Obama: ‘America is not … at war with Islam’

Indonesia, the world’s largest Muslim nation, is also a nation of immense diversity, comprising more than 300 ethnic groups speaking more than 700 languages or dialects. While more than 80 percent of its people profess a faith in Islam, religious freedom is guaranteed in the Indonesian constitution and practiced in its daily life.

President Obama, who lived in Indonesia as a child, drew upon that tradition of diversity and tolerance in a speech delivered there earlier today. And while he was speaking to Indonesians and less directly to the larger Islamic world, I think he was also reminding his fellow Americans to honor our own traditions of tolerance.

“Innocent civilians in America, Indonesia, and across the world are still targeted by violent extremists. I have made it clear that America is not, and never will be, at war with Islam. Instead, all of us must defeat al Qaeda and its affiliates, who have no claim to be leaders of any religion – certainly not a great, world religion like Islam. But those who want to build must not cede ground to terrorists who seek to destroy…..

But I believe that the history of both America and Indonesia gives us hope. It’s a story written into our national mottos. “E pluribus unum” – out of many, one. “Bhinneka Tunggal Ika” – unity in diversity. We are two nations, which have traveled different paths. Yet our nations show that hundreds of millions who hold different beliefs can be united in freedom under one flag….

Earlier today, I visited the Istiqlal mosque – a place of worship that was still under construction when I lived in Jakarta. I admired its soaring minaret, imposing dome, and welcoming space. … this house of worship for many thousands of Muslims was designed by a Christian architect.

Such is Indonesia’s spirit. Such is the message of Indonesia’s inclusive philosophy, Pancasila….

That is not to say that Indonesia is without imperfections. No country is. But here can be found the ability to bridge divides of race and region and religion – that ability to see yourself in all individuals. As a child of a different race coming from a distant country, I found this spirit in the greeting that I received upon moving here: Selamat Datang. As a Christian visiting a mosque on this visit, I found it in the words of a leader who was asked about my visit and said, “Muslims are also allowed in churches. We are all God’s followers.”

That spark of the divine lies within each of us. We cannot give in to doubt or cynicism or despair.”

It is a message that Obama’s predecessor, President Bush, preached sincerely during his own time in office. The battle against al Qaida and Islamic extremism is being fought on many fronts, with weapons that range from Predator drones to printing presses, but its outcome will be determined by the willingness of people on all sides to embrace the concept of e pluribus unum, a concept born and first given reality here in these United States of America.

408 comments Add your comment

Normal

November 10th, 2010
8:30 am

He visited a Mosque??? OMG, he IS a Mooslim! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Granny Godzilla

November 10th, 2010
8:33 am

W said the same thing.

‘Course he wasn’t a real republican.

tee hee hee

stands for decibels

November 10th, 2010
8:41 am

It is a message that Obama’s predecessor, President Bush, preached sincerely during his own time in office.

And I would assume, I would hope, he does still.

Has anyone interviewing him on his current book tour addressed this question directly, does anyone know?

Daedalus

November 10th, 2010
8:43 am

Someone should tell that to the GOP.

Waging war on Islam is about as smart as trying to force other nations to adopt democracy at gunpoint. And that’s worked out just swell every time we’ve tried it.

President Hussein

November 10th, 2010
8:44 am

Multi-Culti is dead!!!…..so says our European allies

levi

November 10th, 2010
8:45 am

oslamabin bama may not be at war with muslims but yes America sure is!!! Let me at a few of the slimey back bombing baby,women and Christian killing cowards!!

Robert

November 10th, 2010
8:46 am

“Innocent civilians in America, and across the world are still targeted by violent extremists. America is not, and never will be, at war with Islam or Christians. Instead, all of us must defeat the home grown terroist group known as the “tea party” and its affiliates, who have no claim to be leaders of any religion – certainly not a great, world religion like Islam or Christians. But those who want to build must not cede ground to terrorists who seek to destroy…..

thomas

November 10th, 2010
8:48 am

Granny Godzilla

November 10th, 2010
8:33 am

And didn’t you go on and on about how bad bush was?

If he so bad why do you not condemn our current president for doing the same things?

tee hee hee

AmVet

November 10th, 2010
8:49 am

This article is NOT gonna make Scout happy.

Nor the mindless minority of Americans of which he is card carrying member.

This will only further fuel the enmity of the enraged irrational, regarding the Uppity Muslim sans Birth Certificate…

“…with weapons that range from Predator drones to printing presses…”

Great line, JB!

At least with the worst of the chickenhawks out of the White House, we have a chance to restore sanity.

Time will tell if a new and non-improved version of that foul fowl has just taken over the US House…

Jay

November 10th, 2010
8:50 am

Your local recruiter is standing by, Levi.

Normal

November 10th, 2010
8:53 am

levi

November 10th, 2010
8:45 am

You ought to join the Marines so you can get your wish.

Normal

November 10th, 2010
8:54 am

Jay, you beat me to it…I just type too damn slow! :D

ken R

November 10th, 2010
8:55 am

Jay, you made a statement about Levi, now how about one for Robert?

I love the way you bring Bush into it to shore up Obama and tomorrow you will be ripping on him.

Tee Hee Hee piffle, sport

Dirty Dawg

November 10th, 2010
8:57 am

Yeah Bush used to say the same thing – that we were not at war with Islam…now, however, he just says, ‘read it in my book’…the whore.

Deep Throat

November 10th, 2010
8:58 am

Robert , I will not say what I think of your comment. I will only say this. The Tea Party whether you agree with their message or not they only wish to fight for your freedoms, while on the other hand Islamic Terrorist only wish to kill you. You may wish to re-think your priorities.

Robert

November 10th, 2010
8:59 am

President Obama should have said –
Innocent civilians in America, and across the world are still targeted by violent extremists. I have made it clear that America is not, and never will be, at war with Islam or Christians. Instead, all of us must defeat the home grown terroist group known as the “tea party”and its affiliates, whose weapons of choice are hatred, fear and rage/mob mentality against minorities, women, gay & lesbians, Muslims and Jews. The home grown terroist group known as the “tea party” has no claim to be leaders of any religion – certainly not great world religions like Islam and Christians. But those who want to build must not cede ground to terrorists who seek to destroy…..

Bosch

November 10th, 2010
9:00 am

“oslamabin bama”

Now that is a new one. :roll:

Huh?!?

November 10th, 2010
9:00 am

“While more than 80 percent of its people profess a faith in Islam, religious freedom is guaranteed in the Indonesian constitution and practiced in its daily life.”

You say “guaranteed and practiced”

Indonesia’s Constitutional Court dealt a severe blow to religious freedom by upholding a controversial law prohibiting “blasphemy,” Human Rights Watch said today. Human Rights Watch urged the Indonesian government to revoke this and other laws that infringe upon the rights to freedom of religion, belief, and conscience.

The court, in an 8-1 decision on April 19, 2010, ruled that the blasphemy law, which provides criminal penalties for those who express religious beliefs that deviate from the central tenets of the six officially recognized religions, is a lawful restriction of minority religious beliefs because it allows for the maintenance of public order.

See http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2010/04/19/indonesia-court-ruling-setback-religious-freedom

Scout

November 10th, 2010
9:01 am

If you get liver cancer your liver has good cells and cancer cells that are taking over.

Are you at war with your liver or the cancer ?

Doggone/GA

November 10th, 2010
9:01 am

“I love the way you bring Bush into it to shore up Obama and tomorrow you will be ripping on him”

Yes we understand that it’s hard for the “black and white thinking” crowd to grasp that it’s possible to praise someone for one thing, and the criticize him for something else. But those of us who can get past the “all or nothing” attitude DO understand it.

Normal

November 10th, 2010
9:02 am

bustAcapInhim

November 10th, 2010
9:02 am

that Punk Coward Levi aint going sign up for the real deal. He is a republican/ Tea Baggin punk

stands for decibels

November 10th, 2010
9:02 am

You ought to join the Marines so you can get your wish.

Because it is timeless, and because our “levi” stars in it:

http://dir.salon.com/story/comics/tomo/2003/11/10/tomo/

Hey ma–are we outa Cheetos?

Doggone/GA

November 10th, 2010
9:02 am

“You may wish to re-think your priorities”

Are you saying, then, that to defeat them we need to become LIKE THEM?

AmVet

November 10th, 2010
9:02 am

Regarding that bizarre nonsense 8:45, it would be nice to simply dismiss it as merely that of a caricature, and not someone who actually believes any of it.

But alas, this enraged bigotry is not at all atypical of they type of irrational, misguided, “conservative” hatred that is posted here every single day.

Rundgren has the perfect song (And a real rocker) for these gentlemen:

Somebody call the boys cause there’s no men in here
Some are unready, some are unwilling
Some are still able but ain’t got the feeling
Talking real loud at the back of the crowd
I’m calling you by name to bite the bullet
Manup

Some are unready, some are unwilling
Hiding amongst the women and children
Rousing the rabble from under the bed
I’m calling you by name to bite the bullet
Manup

Deep Throat

November 10th, 2010
9:03 am

Robert, I see your weapon of choice is ignorance.

Idiot Daedalus

November 10th, 2010
9:04 am

Daedalus

November 10th, 2010
8:43 am
“Someone should tell that to the GOP.

Waging war on Islam is about as smart as trying to force other nations to adopt democracy at gunpoint. And that’s worked out just swell every time we’ve tried it.”

You kool-aid drinking leftist, where have you EVER seen ANYONE in the GOP say we’re at war with Islam. You are a despicable liar!

ken R

November 10th, 2010
9:04 am

Robert, please show us one, just one, fact that you claim about the Teaparty. We will all be waiting.

paleo-neo-Carlinist

November 10th, 2010
9:06 am

Scout, seriously, the “cancer” metaphor? c’mon Marine. also, I can tell you from experience (I used to date a liver transplant specialist), you never “win the war” against liver cancer. at best, you remove the entire organ and replace it. so tell me, good doctor, what “treatment” do you prescribe (insert $93,000/dose joke)?

Christopher Logan

November 10th, 2010
9:06 am

Jay, the Christians in Indonesia are persecuted. Here are some recent examples.

http://loganswarning.com/2010/10/28/obamas-islamic-appeasing-tour-continues/

There will never be true peace because of Islam, as it calls for perpetual war.

http://loganswarning.com/2009/12/13/islam-101-the-religion-of-war/

ken R

November 10th, 2010
9:07 am

AmVet, please read Roberts rants and then tell me that the Liberals are any better. Your dreaming if you really think so.

Tee hee hee

Jay

November 10th, 2010
9:08 am

The first two words on Mr. Logan’s website are “Dictator Obama….”, if that gives you any idea of his credibility.

Scout

November 10th, 2010
9:09 am

Islam is not just a relgion: It is an economic, religious, judicial, legal, educational, political and military system. The “religious” part is just the beard.

We ignore that at our peril.

Deep Throat

November 10th, 2010
9:09 am

The mutt puppy speaks

Huh?!?

November 10th, 2010
9:10 am

See also:

“We write to raise serious concerns about the continued persecution of members of the Ahmadiyah community in Indonesia. Recent public statements by Minister of Religious Affairs Suryadharma Ali, stating that he plans to officially ban the Ahmadiyah religion, would increase the likelihood of renewed communal violence towards religious minorities.”

http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2010/11/03/yudhoyono-letter-title-tbc

paleo-neo-Carlinist

November 10th, 2010
9:11 am

Scout, we’ve discussed this before – ALL RELIGIONS are; judicial, legal, (same concept, by the way), educational, political and military” systems. we embrace theology at our perill, my friend.

Normal

November 10th, 2010
9:12 am

The Tea Party sold out to the Republicans and now they are being used like a two dollar wh0r3. The Tea Party have proven they ain’t too bright…

AmVet

November 10th, 2010
9:13 am

Normal, re that 9:02…

GO NAVY!

stands, another link worthy of bookmarking! Thanks…

I said as early as October 2001, that the chickenhawks, non-conservative conservatives and the cowardly neo-cons had already lost the “War on Terror”.

Why?

Because they showed a demented, disgusting desire to be as like the Islam-maniacs as they could possibly be….

Editor In Chief

November 10th, 2010
9:13 am

Radical Islam IS at War with America. We are our own worst enemy for pretending peace will ever exist. There are Wars and battles all throughout the history of the World. Furthermore, we will all be taking a dirt nap when the music is over. Whe there are now more Wars, there is no more US – period!

Bosch

November 10th, 2010
9:13 am

ken,

I don’t know if Robert can, but this letter in Jay’s column back in July pretty much does the trick:

http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2010/07/17/tea-partys-national-spokesman-proves-naacp-correct-after-all/

Huh?!?

November 10th, 2010
9:14 am

What about Human rights watch jay are they credible or not?

“President Yudhoyono gave a nationwide speech about religious tolerance in the United States, but what will he tell visiting US President Barack Obama about the burned Ahmadiyah mosques in Indonesia?” said Phil Robertson, deputy Asia director at Human Rights Watch. “Yudhoyono should take clear steps to protect religious freedom, starting with loudly rejecting any ban on the Ahmadis, and ensuring that those responsible for attacks on Ahmadiyah homes and mosques are prosecuted.”

http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2010/11/04/indonesia-uphold-religious-freedom

Normal

November 10th, 2010
9:14 am

Islam is what the ultra religious right wing wants Christianity to be for this country. Religious wingnuts are the same everywhere.

ken R

November 10th, 2010
9:14 am

You lost! get over it.

Nice Guy

November 10th, 2010
9:15 am

Normal – “Islam is what the ultra religious right wing wants Christianity to be for this country.”

What? Can you expand that thought please.

Deep Throat

November 10th, 2010
9:15 am

Normal explain how the Tea Party sold out to anyone, your leftist mind will not except facts so lets hear how you manufacture an answer.

mystified

November 10th, 2010
9:16 am

Listening to AmVet complain about conservative hatred makes my day….It’s amazing to watch his and others daily rants that are overflowing with ANGER and intolerance of anyone who differs from them complain about how angry and intolerant we are…Absolutely oblivious to the plank in his own eye.

JIMBOB (aka James Robert)

November 10th, 2010
9:16 am

How does the ethnic cleansing of Jews from Jerusalem, and the creation of an Islamic extremist state in the Jewish homeland fit in to this ‘war on Islamic extremism’ thing?

Nice Guy

November 10th, 2010
9:17 am

“Because they showed a demented, disgusting desire to be as like the Islam-maniacs as they could possibly be….”

More non-sense to be consumed by whomever is hungry…

Doggone/GA

November 10th, 2010
9:17 am

“The told story about church Burnings is that churches were burning. The untold story is that they never stopped burning.”

http://nomoreburnedchurches.org/

ken R

November 10th, 2010
9:17 am

Jay, if you want to win over the Islamists,start a new Religion and offer them 100 Virgins instead of 72 when they die. It’s that simple.

Tee hee hee

Normal

November 10th, 2010
9:18 am

James Dobson, Pat Robinson, Jerry Fallwell (happy in Heaven), etc….

Nice Guy

November 10th, 2010
9:18 am

Mystified – “It’s amazing to watch his and others daily rants that are overflowing with ANGER ”

It really is amazing, isn’t it. I mean that guy AmVet is one angry soul.

Huh?!?

November 10th, 2010
9:19 am

How about the Jakarta Globe – credible or not?

“Religious freedom has been abused once more in Indonesia with the recent attack on Saint Albertus church in Bekasi. This sort of abuse against minority groups has been going on for years, yet the government and religious leaders have made little effort to address it.”

http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/opinion/abuse-of-religious-freedom-hurts-indonesia-and-renders-god-defenseless/350101

Robert

November 10th, 2010
9:20 am

Deep Throat & ken R – What facts are you disputing?

1. Innocent civilians in America, and across the world are still targeted by violent extremists.
2. America is not, and never will be, at war with Islam or Christians.
3. All of us must defeat the home grown terrorist group known as the “tea party”and its affiliates
4. Weapons of choice are hatred, fear and rage/mob mentality
5. Against minorities, women, gay & lesbians, Muslims and Jews.
6. Home grown terrorist group known as the “tea party” has no claim to be leaders of any religion – certainly not great world religions like Islam and Christians.
7. Those who want to build must not cede ground to terrorists who seek to destroy…..

Enough is Enough…..

FinnMcCool

November 10th, 2010
9:20 am

I’m much more afraid of fundamentalist christians in my neighborhood than Muslims in my neighborhood.

Timmy McVeigh wasn’t a Muslim. Eric Rudolph wasn’t a Muslim.

Normal

November 10th, 2010
9:20 am

AmVet, I guess that we are angry souls because we say what they don’t want to hear, huh?

AmVet

November 10th, 2010
9:21 am

ken, I repudiate many of the “liberal” viewpoints here.

I have repeatedly excoriated BHO and most of the Dem leadership. I presume you have done so with Republicans? Fair and Balanced, you know.

Whether Robert’s words are tongue-in-cheek, I cannot say. You’d have to ask him, not me.

I indicted levi for what he wrote, and by proxy the other specific individuals who write similar filth.

Your comment “…then tell me that the Liberals are any better.” reflects a staggeringly ignorant stereotype.

Unlike you I do not indict an entire group of people.

I also repudiate anyone who uses the words Tee hee hee. (J/k)

Never Forget

November 10th, 2010
9:22 am

Tell that to the nearly 3,000 people that died at the hands of terrorists on 9/11/2001 …

FinnMcCool

November 10th, 2010
9:22 am

I didn’t see Muslims standing up at political rallies within the last two months claiming “ballots or bullets” and “revolution is still on the table”

I did see Tea partiers saying that stuff.

Nice Guy

November 10th, 2010
9:23 am

“I’m much more afraid of fundamentalist christians in my neighborhood than Muslims in my neighborhood.”

Well then, Finn McCool, you are truly misguided.

FinnMcCool

November 10th, 2010
9:23 am

Never Forget….the innocent civilians who died in the Oklahoma City bombing

paleo-neo-Carlinist

November 10th, 2010
9:23 am

Editor in Chief, correction; (whatever is left of) al Qaeada “is at war with the United States.” and, I would add, this is akin to saying “the mafia” is at war with the US or the Mexican drug cartels are “at war” with the U.S. do you know what the Taliban “is at war with the US?” because we attacked them. there are millions, if not billions of “radical” Muslims who want no part of war with the U.S. like the Taliban, they simply want to practice their hate-filled, billigerent “faith” as they see fit. but let’s say you and the other zealots are correct, and there is some central, “radical Islam” force, which threatens the US. to quote your mentor deferment Dick Cheney; “so what?”. if al Qaeada has Predator drones and 100,000 troops on US soil, do you think we – well, everybody by Levi – would capitulate?

Granny Godzilla

November 10th, 2010
9:24 am

thomas

y’all called him a RINO in an attempt to distance yourselves from what you had done by voting for and supporting the least effective President
in modern history.

own it.

Deep Throat

November 10th, 2010
9:25 am

Mystified and Nice Guy , its truely amazing how their twisted minds work, they try and tell us how the right is putting fear in peoples mind but it is they who are spewing hatred and intolerance.

Normal

November 10th, 2010
9:25 am

4. Weapons of choice are hatred, fear and rage/mob mentality
5. Against minorities, women, gay & lesbians, Muslims and Jews.

Sounds a lot like the Ultra Christian Right…and add Wanted posters for Abortion Doctors, and taking away women’s reproductive rights, teaching myth instead of science. Yep,
That pretty much sums up the American Taliban…

AmVet

November 10th, 2010
9:25 am

Normal, good point.

I have never understood why my words torment them so. I think a BIG part of it is that they know the reverse cannot be said.

Well as duty calls, it looks like my timing is perfect.

And I will have to disappoint one of my new leg-humpers.

I’m sure he’ll find somebody else to obsess over, in my absence!

Toodles…

williebkind

November 10th, 2010
9:26 am

Well, when the muslims start telling the progressive liberals how they must act and how to live under the law, I will stand back and enjoy the educated responses. Progressive liberals can not co-exist with muslim law. At this moment in time, the progressive liberals are just using the muslim to further their agenda of attacking conservatives. However, the liberals time is limited–by the conservatives or by the muslims. I do sleep better knowing this. My nightmare comes from the fact conservatives too will have to confront muslim law with constitutional law. That is when our country will be in deep peril. You might see liberals armed at that time.

Granny Godzilla

November 10th, 2010
9:26 am

Normal

You got it right.

“Religious wingnuts are the same everywhere.”

BINGO

Taliban or Talibaptist.

They are both dangerous and not to be trusted.

FinnMcCool

November 10th, 2010
9:26 am

Beware the christian who will pray on Sunday and blow up abortion doctors on Monday.

(Abortion doctors who are performing perfectly legal procedures.)

Keep up the good fight!

November 10th, 2010
9:27 am

No man ever believes that the Bible means what it says: He is always convinced that it says what he means. George Bernard Shaw

JDW

November 10th, 2010
9:28 am

Scout

November 10th, 2010
9:09 am
“Islam is not just a relgion: It is an economic, religious, judicial, legal, educational, political and military system. The “religious” part is just the beard.

We ignore that at our peril.”

I tend to agree with Scout on this one.

While many Muslims don’t buy into the “entire program” many more are fervent believers and only barely tolerate us “infidels” and a significant number of others run around trying to kill us or sow the seeds of such actions. The thing that has always irritated me about the whole Muslim-Islam-Terrorist equation is just how little support the “Western World At Large” gets from mainstream Muslims in most of the world. O’ sure you see the occasional quote but there is not nor has there ever been a solid concerted effort from any of these countries (Pakistan, Indonesia, Malaysia, or anyone in the Middle East) to solve the problem. The best we get is piecemeal here and there when they think it might benefit them.

I don’t have a ready solution but as Scout says we ignore it at our peril.

ken R

November 10th, 2010
9:28 am

AmVet, I’m glad you repudiated Granny because I was making fun of her Piffle, Roberts words were not tongue in cheek, just look above.
My Liberal remark was made because many, many liberals on here are just as bad as Levi, and you know it, but don’t want to admit it.

jm

November 10th, 2010
9:28 am

China is the modern plague…..

Doggone/GA

November 10th, 2010
9:29 am

“Tell that to the nearly 3,000 people that died at the hands of terrorists on 9/11/2001″

And what shall we tell the thousands and thousands of Iraqi civilians that died at OUR hands?

Normal

November 10th, 2010
9:29 am

Normal explain how the Tea Party sold out to anyone…

Deep Throat, just wait and see. You can’t honestly believe that the GOP will go against its masters, do you? If so then, FOOLED YA!

Paul

November 10th, 2010
9:30 am

And what better nation than Indonesia to strengthen relations with? Not any of the religious regimes in the Mideast. He’s doing a good job over there.

And, it’s well worth the $200 million dollars a day – (sarc)

Daedalus 8:43

“Someone should tell that to the GOP.
Waging war on Islam is about as…

Do you happen to have a cite that the GOP is “waging war on Islam”? Especially given the comment “It is a message that Obama’s predecessor, President Bush, preached sincerely during his own time in office.”

Dirty Dawg 8:57

“Yeah Bush used to say the same thing – that we were not at war with Islam…now, however, he just says, ‘read it in my book’…the whore.”

I can see where that would infuriate some of his detractors. There’s the issue of reading comprehension and all that –

Normal 9:14

“Islam is what the ultra religious right wing wants Christianity to be for this country. Religious wingnuts are the same everywhere.”

You tryin’ to spin Robert up to new heights? He’s already having enough fun trolling -

FinnMcCool

“Timmy McVeigh wasn’t a Muslim.”

He wasn’t? Really? What was he?

AmVet

“I have never understood why my words torment them so”

It’s a gift, I tell ya’, a gift!

jm

November 10th, 2010
9:30 am

Indonesia is obviously not a problem. China is a problem…

Deep Throat

November 10th, 2010
9:31 am

Robert you are an idiot. Islamic Terrorist flew planes into our buildings killing innocent men,women and children,if your twisted mind can even for an instant believe the crap you are spewing you are a total idiot.

Nice Guy

November 10th, 2010
9:31 am

Granny – “They are both dangerous and not to be trusted”

Your old age is starting to show. What an unbelievable statement. If you and Finn truly believe you can compare extreme right wingers to the Taliban or al Queda, then I am just speechless, and really feel a bit sorry for you two. I mean, you go thru life truly beleiving this stuff. Wow.

On the other hand, perhaps you don’t believe it and just post it on these blogs to get attention.

Normal

November 10th, 2010
9:31 am

Headed out to get this &@%#$* cast off my arm…I’ll be back!

williebkind

November 10th, 2010
9:32 am

“(Abortion doctors who are performing perfectly legal procedures.)”

Is this a legal practice was it made law by congress or did one of those judges MAKE LAW!
So is tobaco! But look what you have done to that legal substance.

Nice Guy

November 10th, 2010
9:33 am

Dog – “And what shall we tell the thousands and thousands of Iraqi civilians that died at OUR hands?”

Tell them that people die in war. There is a cost to no longer being within the tight grasp of the evile Saddam.

Normal

November 10th, 2010
9:33 am

Nice guy,
Try to remember Liberals think, and don’t march in lockstep. We don’t care what you think…so there, pbbtt! :D

FinnMcCool

November 10th, 2010
9:33 am

Conservatives want to tell YOU how to live your life:
1) salute the state flag
2) believe in ONLY my God
3) no buying booze on Sundays from a store (it’s ok to go to a bar and get tanked… and drive home?)
4) abolish public schools – everyone must go to private schools

The control-mongering of conservatives is quite reminiscent of the control-mongering of some islamic countries.

Mental Floss

November 10th, 2010
9:34 am

@ paleo-neo-Carlinist

November 10th, 2010
9:23 am

You bring up an excellent argument to why our immigration laws need to be enforced and overhauled. Thank you :)

The rest of you sympathizers would rather patronize people that would rather see you dead than your Christian neighbor. How pathetic to admit something like that.

FinnMcCool

November 10th, 2010
9:35 am

Deep Throat, did you not read about Rand paul’s flip flop on earmarks this week? That is a case in point of tea party sell-outs.

Nice Guy

November 10th, 2010
9:36 am

“Indonesia is obviously not a problem. China is a problem…”

China is a problem, jm. Its a shame that they have us by the short and curlies.

Keep up the good fight!

November 10th, 2010
9:36 am

Willie…judges did not make abortion legal. Roe v Wade found it UNCONSTITUTIONAL to prohibit by law abortion absent certain conditions. Let’s try to be accurate.

williebkind

November 10th, 2010
9:36 am

“And what shall we tell the thousands and thousands of Iraqi civilians that died at OUR hands?”

Why stop there! Why dont you add all the Japanese that died at our hands. How about all the Koreans! Germans and Vietnamese…As an American, you really disappoint me!

Middle

November 10th, 2010
9:37 am

“If you and Finn truly believe you can compare extreme right wingers to the Taliban or al Queda, then I am just speechless, and really feel a bit sorry for you two. I mean, you go thru life truly beleiving this stuff. Wow.”

Tis is what liberal extremist do. Love thy enemy, hate thy neighbor (R).

FinnMcCool

November 10th, 2010
9:38 am

Tell them that people die in war. There is a cost to no longer being within the tight grasp of the evile Saddam.

Yeah, because being DEAD is soooooo much better than being within the tight grasp of the evile Saddam! hehehehehe

Harry Callahan

November 10th, 2010
9:39 am

“I have made it clear that America is not, and never will be, at war with Islam.”

I’m not sure Al Qaeda/Taliban/Hamas ever got that particular memo.

Deep Throat

November 10th, 2010
9:39 am

Normal thats the point the Left can’t seem to grip, the GOP nor the Democrats have a master, the GOP is not lorded over by the Tea party, the Democrats should not be lorded over by Obama. All the elected officials answer to us the people, we don’t want politician to tell us whats good for us, we tell them. Its not a party thing its a people thing.

williebkind

November 10th, 2010
9:40 am

Keep up the good fight!

November 10th, 2010
9:36 am
Huh! That is like saying I was shot by an empty gun. Roe v Wade found it UNCONSTITUTIONAL is the precedent used by liberals to use/change the constitutional for personal/contemporary issues. Roe V Wade was not congress–it was judges.

JDW

November 10th, 2010
9:40 am

@Nice Guy

“If you and Finn truly believe you can compare extreme right wingers to the Taliban or al Queda, then I am just speechless”

Run of the mill right wingers yes…but in the case of the extreme ones if the shoe fits….

Timothy McVeigh, Eric Rudolf, David Koresh and countless other budding militia groups around the country come to mind.

Nice Guy

November 10th, 2010
9:40 am

Paul – “now, however, he just says, ‘read it in my book’”

You know, after watching him on tv with Matty Lauer and hearing him on the radio, I truly do miss him. Partly because he irks the hell out of the Left-nuts, but mainly because he is a good man with a good head on his shoulders.

Doggone/GA

November 10th, 2010
9:40 am

“Tell them that people die in war. There is a cost to no longer being within the tight grasp of the evile Saddam”

WE invaed THEM. They did not invite us to free them from anything. We murdered innocent women, children and men for NO GOOD REASON. Sounds like the Oklahoma City bombing and the Twin Towers attack, doesn’t it?

Gloss it over all you like. We were, and ARE, at fault for attacking Iraq and no amount of chest-pounding will alter that.

Harry Callahan

November 10th, 2010
9:40 am

Normal

November 10th, 2010
9:33 am

“Try to remember Liberals think, and don’t march in lockstep”

LOL

Bosch

November 10th, 2010
9:41 am

Mornin’ Paul!

I’m kind of enjoying seeing those Bush interviews.

FinnMcCool

November 10th, 2010
9:41 am

your Christian neighbor.

show me someone who says they are a “christian neighbor” and I’ll show you someone who has zero attributes of a christian…love thy neighbor, turn the other cheek, the meek shall inherit the earth, etc.

what you are more likely to find is someone who wants to know what me and the government has done for them lately…