Pelosi decides to stay and fight; GOP frowns

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.

Despite losing her gavel as speaker, Nancy Pelosi has decided to remain in Washington and intends to serve as House minority leader.

I think that’s great. Republicans have succeeded in demonizing Pelosi, but the truth is, she has been an effective speaker whose leadership was essential in implementing the party’s agenda.

As she clearly recognizes, you win some, you lose some, but you fight on. You don’t slink home with your tail between your legs. However, Pelosi’s Republican opponents seem a bit offended at her audacity, apparently believing that the beaten have an obligation to remain the beaten.

“If Democratic members in the House elect Nancy Pelosi as their leader, it’s almost as if they just didn’t get the message from the voters this election,” Eric Cantor, the likely House majority leader, told Fox News Sunday. “This is the woman who … puts ideology first, and there have been no results for the American people. And that seems the direction they want to take again. It just doesn’t make sense.”

“If Pelosi assumes this leadership role, then President Barack Obama should forget about being reelected in 2012,” U.S. Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, told the New York Daily News.

Pelosi and other congressional Democrats argue that last week’s results were driven more by the poor economy rather than by widespread voter rejection of Democratic policies. President Obama took the same line in a “60 Minutes” interview last night.

“I think, first and foremost, it was a referendum on the economy,” he told Steve Kroft. “And the party in power was held responsible for an economy that is still underperforming and where a lot of folks are still hurting. I mean, we’ve got 9.6 percent unemployment. We’ve got higher than that underemployment. A lot of folks who would like to be working full time can’t work full time. Families are struggling paying the bills. People have seen their home values decline all across the country. In some cases, so that they’re under water. Their house is worth less than the cost of their mortgage.

And so, people I think expect that we would have made more progress than we have on the economic front. And I think that was uppermost on people’s minds.”

That’s exactly right. It may have been unrealistic to expect any president or party to quickly turn around an economy sinking as fast as this one was in 2009, but voters clearly did so anyway and have rendered a harsh verdict.

Now, in the aftermath of the midterms, Republicans prefer to believe the outcome represents a full-hearted embrace of their conservative agenda, and they are going to operate on that assumption, as they should. Democrats believe it was all or mostly about the economy, and they are going to operate on that quite different theory.

That’s the rhythm and cycle of politics, and Pelosi understands it better than most.

378 comments Add your comment

Granny Godzilla

November 8th, 2010
6:58 am

I prefer Nancy Pelosi to Steny Hoyer…..She herds cats better than anybody.

Normal

November 8th, 2010
7:09 am

Great Monday morning all…and I agree with Granny G!

Finn McCool

November 8th, 2010
7:16 am

Pelosi’s Triumph
Democrats didn’t lose the battle of 2010. They won it.

excellent articles on pelosi

http://www.slate.com/id/2273708/

Finn McCool

November 8th, 2010
7:19 am

If the dems play it smart, we get both houses back in 2012. We got to play the long game and play it smart that’s why we need Olbermann and Maddow in their chairs every night.

stands for decibels

November 8th, 2010
7:20 am

Republicans prefer to believe the outcome represents a full-hearted embrace of their conservative agenda, and they are going to operate on that assumption, as they should. Democrats believe it was all or mostly about the economy, and they are going to operate on that quite different theory.

Yep. That’s about 90% of all anyone needs to know about big-picture partisan strategizing and framing for the next few months.

As for the best choice for House minority leader, obviously it’s their call and while there is no denying Pelosi’s success as a legislator, I don’t really claim to know who’d be the most capable administrator and (h/t Granny) cat-herder for the 112th.

As a political junkie, though, I see some utility in having a lightening rod for immoderate Republicans who can’t resist allowing their misogynist / homophobic freak flags to fly, and they’ll unfurl those flags with some regularity any time they see her face on the TeeVee.

Tommy Maddox

November 8th, 2010
7:21 am

Oh by all means, let her stay!

Lil' Barry Bailout

November 8th, 2010
7:21 am

It may have been unrealistic to expect any president or party to quickly turn around an economy sinking as fast as this one was in 2009, but voters clearly did so anyway and have rendered a harsh verdict.
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Yes, it is unrealistic to expect that a president and a party faced with an economic downturn could improve things by increasing the size and scope of government and spending obscene sums loaned to us by the Chinese. Obviously the American people just don’t “get it”.

Or maybe they do.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

November 8th, 2010
7:22 am

I think most conservatives agree that Ms. Pelosi should remain the most visible, i.e., public, symbol of what Congressional democrats believe.

Lil' Barry Bailout

November 8th, 2010
7:24 am

I wonder if the “Blue Dog” Democrats agree that Pelosi is a great leader? Heh heh…

Bob

November 8th, 2010
7:28 am

Jay, why do you have to create a phony scenario to bash repubs. Repubs will love wathcing Pelosi as minority leader. I would like to know why you are not writing about the dems that do not want her as their leader. Is the vote for minority speaker a secret vote ?

stands for decibels

November 8th, 2010
7:31 am

why you are not writing about the dems that do not want her as their leader.

blogger.com is ready when you are.

Nofreecheese

November 8th, 2010
7:33 am

Jay–you’re absolutely correct; there is no way any high-ranking elected leader/s could have dramatically turned around the economy in the last two years. The issue is that Pelosi, Reid, and Obama clearly put the economy on the backburner while they heeded Rahm Emmanuel’s words “…don’t waste a good crisis.” They chose to use their overwhelming political capital and majorities to move America further to the left. Oh, and before you bring up the stimulus, it was nothing more than the largest piece of pork barrel legislation EVER! The bailouts of the auto industry were nothing more than a means of paying back the unions. Oh, and before you go there, I know these were intitiated by Bush during his lame duck period, but they were blessed by the incoming Obama administration and Democratic leadership. Don’t forget how over a century of bankruptcy law was ignored and the UAW and their pensions were given priority over secured creditors.

And people are even more disgusted w/ the Republicans whose speeches have different words but whose actions mirror those of their Democratic counterparts. Why do you think O’Donnell defeated Castle in the Delaware Republican primary? B/c, like it or hate it, she was real; her opponent was merely an opportunist.

Bob

November 8th, 2010
7:34 am

SFD, speaking of homophobic, when are dems going to end their policy of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell ? You would think if they did not like the policy they could have ended it when they had their super majority.

USinUK

November 8th, 2010
7:35 am

dB – “blogger.com is ready when you are”

so is wordpress.com.

Del

November 8th, 2010
7:35 am

Nancy sure helped to get a bunch of Republicans elected and a bunch of Democrats unelected. She will be the gift that keeps on giving.

USinUK

November 8th, 2010
7:36 am

“The issue is that Pelosi, Reid, and Obama clearly put the economy on the backburner ”

:roll:

yeah. they totally ignored the economy.

oy.

Lil' Barry Bailout

November 8th, 2010
7:37 am

If the subject is homophobia, you do realize that the Idiot Messiah opposes same sex “marriage”, right?

stands for decibels

November 8th, 2010
7:37 am

when are dems going to end their policy of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell ?

One would hope during the lame duck session.

stands for decibels

November 8th, 2010
7:38 am

increasing the size and scope of government and spending obscene sums

Neither of these assertions are even remotely accurate, by the way.

Jack

November 8th, 2010
7:38 am

Pelosi needs to stay: she needs to stay in order to remind liberals why they lost the House.

Lil' Barry Bailout

November 8th, 2010
7:39 am

Republicans are hoping for more of Pelosi’s brand of “leadership” in the next session!

Pelosi: Loser.

stands for decibels

November 8th, 2010
7:40 am

If the subject is homophobia

It’s not, although I guess for a guy who obsesses about Obama like you do, it’s probably bubbling under the surface most of the time.

USinUK

November 8th, 2010
7:41 am

“liberals why they lost the House”

raging misogeny? (particularly for the little wimmen that have the gall to think they’re equal)

believe me, we’re aware of that, already.

Vetobama

November 8th, 2010
7:44 am

why doesn’t nancy take a cue from palin and resign and run for media queen and maybe president by cherry picking reporters and media outlets. It….could….WORK!!!

But enough, nancy. Say bye bye.

Peadawg

November 8th, 2010
7:49 am

“Nancy Pelosi has decided to remain in Washington and intends to serve as House minority leader.

She’s persistent…I’ll give her that. Hardheaded…but persistent.

Joel Edge

November 8th, 2010
7:49 am

I would say that the Dems definitely didn’t get the message. Judging by the opinions that I read. Unlike liberals, I’m not going to critique the parties choice for it’s leadership. As in: why aren’t you conservatives more “inclusive”?
As someone noted elsewhere, the Republicans and Tea party will still be facing the liberal trio of Pelosi, Reid, and Obama in 2012. Depending on Republican actions in the next two years, that can’t be a bad thing.

stands for decibels

November 8th, 2010
7:50 am

Off topic, but I see KO’s going to be back tonight.

I calculate that one work-day’s suspension without pay for Keith is roughly thirty grand or so. That’s about four times what he contributed to those candidates in apparent violation of nbc policy.

Sounds about right.

Paul

November 8th, 2010
7:51 am

“Pelosi and other congressional Democrats argue that last week’s results were driven more by the poor economy rather than by widespread voter rejection of Democratic policies. ”

How much more? A good question for Spkr Pelosi would be how much her policies influenced the vote. But maybe it’s a wasted question, as she’s already expressed no regret and commended the Dems who lost because of their votes (note, those weren’t votes about the economy). It’s easy to have no regrets when you yourself are guaranteed reelection.

“Now, in the aftermath of the midterms, Republicans prefer to believe the outcome represents a full-hearted embrace of their conservative agenda, and they are going to operate on that assumption, as they should.”

That’s an interesting assertion. Right after the election I heard Rep leader after Rep leader and Rep pundit after Rep pundit acknowledge the election was not an embrace of Republicans, but a rejection of Democratic policies and programs. Now, if Rep leaders want to use their House majority and their strengthened Senate minority to pursue their agenda, that’s another issue.

“It may have been unrealistic to expect any president or party to quickly turn around an economy sinking as fast as this one was in 2009, but voters clearly did so anyway and have rendered a harsh verdict.”

That’s what happens when the cheerleaders proclaim ‘yes we can!!’ and not ‘this is going to be a long, hard slog.’

“People have seen their home values decline all across the country. In some cases, so that they’re under water. Their house is worth less than the cost of their mortgage.”

Yes, people are upset about that, as the programs for mortgage restructuring and to keep people in their homes have been failures. There’s another huge wage of foreclosures coming and that’s not going to be good for Democrats.

Bottom line, though, is no matter what Spkr Pelosi wants, there’s opposition in the ranks. More than was revealed by those reelected Democrats who ran their campaigns partly on the basis of their opposition to her. Democrats were quick to call for the replacement of GM’s top leader when GM failed. Same should apply to their own leaders.

Peadawg

November 8th, 2010
7:52 am

“Pelosi and other congressional Democrats argue that last week’s results were driven more by the poor economy rather than by widespread voter rejection of Democratic policies. President Obama took the same line in a “60 Minutes” interview last night.”

LMAO!!! Morons…

Peadawg

November 8th, 2010
7:53 am

Paul, the Democrats are just saying whatever will make them sleep better at night.

USinUK

November 8th, 2010
7:54 am

Paul – “That’s what happens when the cheerleaders proclaim ‘yes we can!!’ and not ‘this is going to be a long, hard slog”

not much of a cheer, is it? (not to mention, I don’t think Ben and Jerry’s would make an ice cream flavor with that motto)

Call it like it is

November 8th, 2010
8:00 am

Complete denial. Pelosi of course is going to throw the blame on the economy, same with Obama. The American people are not happy with the direction that the country is moving in and they made that clear this past Tuesday. If the Democrats don’t make a change they are just reinforcing the perception that the people already have. They have made up their mind, this is the way its going to be, your opinion doesn’t really matter. That same attitude will bring the exact same results in 2012.

Nofreecheese

November 8th, 2010
8:00 am

Ironically, it’s more of the blue-dog Dem’s that got the boot–those in more competitive districts. The remaining Dem’s are far more liberal and inflexible. The Republicans are acutely aware that they will get booted in the primary if they too far off of the conservative reservation by the time the next election arrives. If they can resist the lure of morality-based legislation, they will do well. If they can keep Palin on the sidelines as a fundraising “tool”, then the presidency should fall into their hands.

Paul

November 8th, 2010
8:01 am

USinUK

No, it’s not. But in hindsight a bit of cautious restraint would’ve been to their advantage, rather than “stim bill, check. Mortgage program, check. What’s left? Okay, on to the rest of the agenda topics.”

USinUK

November 8th, 2010
8:04 am

Peadawg – LMAO!!! Morons…

considering exit poll after exit poll showed that the economy was voters’ number 1 issue, where on earth do you get the idea that Pelosi and Obama were wrong in their assertion?

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/nov/02/news/la-pn-polls-close-unhappy-voters-20101103

“According to an Associated Press analysis of preliminary exit poll results and pre-election polls, voters say the economy eclipses any other issue as their top concern.”

so, if you want to start calling people “morons”, you might want to start looking a little closer to home

USinUK

November 8th, 2010
8:06 am

Paul – 8:01 – meh. the fact is, ANY president only has 18 months to get anything done – after that, he’s in the election cycle (mid-terms/re-election/midterms) …

… as for health care legislation, if the economy was great and strong and forging ahead, people wouldn’t CARE about access and affordability and all the rest.

Normal

November 8th, 2010
8:07 am

Let Nancy remain a thorn in the side of the GOP…I like it when the GOP is uncomfortable. :)

carlosgvv

November 8th, 2010
8:07 am

It is interesting to see the Republicans constantly attacking Nancy Pelosi. Now that they are the majority one wonders why they care who runs for the minority leader. They seem to be frightened of her but I’m not quite sure why.

Normal

November 8th, 2010
8:09 am

Paul,
I think if she wants it, it’s hers. Most of the Blue Dog Democrats lost their seats and it seems to me that they were the ones who were most opposed to her. I think the Tea Party did her a favor. :)

stands for decibels

November 8th, 2010
8:10 am

“According to an Associated Press analysis of preliminary exit poll results and pre-election polls, voters say the economy eclipses any other issue as their top concern.”

moreover, the supposedly super-controversial healthcare reform legislation? You know, the thing that would “break” Obama, per DeMint? I find it very interesting that of the people who showed up to vote in the mid-terms, only 48% actually say it should be repealed. (I’m heartened, actually, to see that “31 percent said it should be expanded, while 16 percent said it should be left as is.”)

oh, and as for that crazy, insane, irresponsible Recovery Cct spending:

Voters in the exit poll were split over the effect of the stimulus: Thirty-one percent said it made no difference on the economy, while 34 percent said it hurt, and 33 percent said it helped.

USinUK

November 8th, 2010
8:10 am

Carlos – cuz she doesn’t look like this:

http://www.abortionessay.com/files/files/bush.jpg

Joel Edge

November 8th, 2010
8:10 am

nofreecheese@8:00
Yep. I hope the Republicans are aware of getting booted. Right now, they are. If they now believe they can disregard the Tea Party after this election. We’ll see.

Bob

November 8th, 2010
8:10 am

Peadawg

November 8th, 2010
8:11 am

“According to an Associated Press analysis of preliminary exit poll results and pre-election polls, voters say the economy eclipses any other issue as their top concern.”

Ok, and obviously voters didn’t think Obama’s policies were helping the economy.

TaxPayer

November 8th, 2010
8:11 am

Where’s my tax cut. Shut down the government so we all can have the maximum tax cut possible. Then, jobs will be abundant. Everyone will be prosperous. Life will be as the Constitution intended it to be. I was thinking about selling coon-skin caps.

Call it like it is

November 8th, 2010
8:13 am

… as for health care legislation, if the economy was great and strong and forging ahead, people wouldn’t CARE about access and affordability and all the rest.

Really………Wouldnt care at all. Funny when the economy was great and strong and forging ahead under Clinton, and Hillary was pushing the healthcare debate, it didnt get very far. I think the American voter is a tad bit more intelligent then you give them credit for.

Keep up the good fight!

November 8th, 2010
8:13 am

New signage coming to a Republican Party near you soon: We dont need no stinkin exit polls to tell us reality….we make up reality as we go along. Our mandate is what we claim it to be.

Now watch them fall apart as DeMint wants to increase the deficit, Bachman wants leadership and Tea Parties try to move away from a single issue group.

USinUK

November 8th, 2010
8:14 am

Peadawg – “Ok, and obviously voters didn’t think Obama’s policies were helping the economy”

if the economy was as strong in the second half as it was in the first, you wouldn’t have seen the pummeling you did. The fact is, though, that the economy IS growing, employment IS growing and things ARE getting better … just not as fast as the 2nd-grader-on-a-sugar-high-instant-gratification electorate would like it.

barking frog

November 8th, 2010
8:15 am

When Pelosi sticks to her principles it’s a bad thing
When Boehner does it’s a good thing. Politics as usual.
If Obama fails to be available to serve, we will have Biden
then Boehner….

Peadawg

November 8th, 2010
8:15 am

“I find it very interesting that of the people who showed up to vote in the mid-terms, only 48% actually say it should be repealed.”

Why do find that interesting? It’s pretty obvious it won’t get appealed since Democrats still have the Senate and Presidency.

JohnnyReb

November 8th, 2010
8:15 am

Republicans afraid of Nancy? LOL!!! Obama, Nancy and Harry have provided the biggest boost to Conservatisism since Goldwater. Any frown about Nancy is evidence of Republican amazement the self destruction will continue.

USinUK

November 8th, 2010
8:16 am

“Funny when the economy was great and strong and forging ahead under Clinton, and Hillary was pushing the healthcare debate, it didnt get very far”

could someone please remind this guy of the recession Clinton inherited from Bush?

not to mention, Hillary handled it BADLY – (closed door meetings, etc)

David

November 8th, 2010
8:16 am

“This is the woman who … puts ideology first…” Cantor can actually say that with a straight face while standing by during some of the remarks by by Boehner and McConnell?

Paul

November 8th, 2010
8:17 am

USinUK

I’ll submit most of the people haven’t cared all that much about health care reform, mostly because most people felt they had it okay with their employer-subsidized policies. Yes, prices were going up, but a lot of folks were resigned to that. Then the economy tanked and companies began shifted more and more to their workers (and that began before the economy crashed) or cutting them off. Then it became more of a ‘hey! I’m not supposed to be the other guy’ situation.

I give Pres Obama a lot of credit for tackling that. He said he was going to , he did and people acted surprised?

Normal

I really don’t have much of a feel for her chances, but we all know what happens to people who cross her.

sfd

I’m still betting we’re going to see the House go thru the charade of voting repeal, then going back to ‘drop this, modify that.’ Gotta be able to say to their activist base ‘we tried.’

AmVet

November 8th, 2010
8:17 am

Morning, Bookmaniacs.

“Voters want to see results on creating jobs, and if Republicans don’t produce, “we’ll be thrown out in two years,” Pawlenty said.”

Get ready for that crazy American voting dance – lurch back to the left in 2012.

Because the lackeys in both parties are now utterly unwilling to even try and to stop the devastating avalanche that they helped set into motion.

As the corporate destruction of capitalism gains speed and crushing everything in it’s path.

i.e., you, me and the rest of the American working class…

Southern Comfort

November 8th, 2010
8:17 am

2nd-grader-on-a-sugar-high-instant-gratification electorate

:shock:

barking frog

November 8th, 2010
8:18 am

the mid terms seem to have been a referendum on middle
of the road politicians, it seems Americans want a knock-
down drag-out fight in Congress until 2012.

Normal

November 8th, 2010
8:19 am

Paul,
When crossed, She says,”I’ll get you my pretty, and your little blue dog too”. THAT”S why I like her… :D

AmVet

November 8th, 2010
8:20 am

“The question was not whether Obama was willing to work with Republicans, as he stated last week, but, “Are we willing to work with him?” Cantor asked.”

From the “This is News?” column.

Of course, they won’t.

GOP First, GOP Last, GOP Always.

You gridlockers are gonna love 2 more years of nothing substantive getting accomplished on behalf of we the people…

Southern Comfort

November 8th, 2010
8:20 am

Republicans afraid of Nancy?

Elected Republicans… No. However, that didn’t stop them from demonizing her to make their electorate afraid of them. That works wonders when you want to get elected to office.

Normal

November 8th, 2010
8:21 am

AmVet,
You put your left foot in, you put your left foot out…Political hokie pokie…

stands for decibels

November 8th, 2010
8:21 am

It’s pretty obvious it won’t get [re]pealed since Democrats still have the Senate and Presidency.

I find it interesting because the question wasn’t “do you think it will be repealed.” It was “SHOULD it” be repealed.

This was the big kahuna, the white whale, if you will, of Tea Party outrage, more so, supposedly, than the evil Stimulus (how DARE he pump 400 billion into the economy over a couple of years, mostly to fill in holes in state/local budgets! why, the audacity!). There were crazy-assed town halls in the summer of 2009 (I know, I attended two of them).

Republican after Republican has claimed it absolutely has to be repealed.

and yet, only half the mid-term voters think it should? huh? I think that’s surprising, in an election where 60 House seats went from Dem to Rep, is all.

RW-(the original)

November 8th, 2010
8:22 am

Somehow I doubt the RNC replaced their Fire Pelosi (for speaker) sign with a Hire Pelosi (for minority leader) because they were insistent that she go away.

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Paul,

In an Oriental dressing recipe are there any real differences between using rice vinegar or rice wine vinegar? For that matter what would it do if you used seasoned rice wine vinegar?

Normal

November 8th, 2010
8:22 am

2nd-grader-on-a-sugar-high-instant-gratification electorate

WWJD? What would Josef do?

Paul

November 8th, 2010
8:23 am

David

““This is the woman who … puts ideology first…” Cantor can actually say that with a straight face ”

Just shows you what hours and hours of practice gets you –

Normal

That character gave me nightmares when I was a kid…. The Oz character, not Pelosi. She wouldn’t hurt a dog!

See? Look hard enough, one can find something nice to say about nearly anyone!

Peadawg

November 8th, 2010
8:23 am

AmVet, voters didn’t vote for a 60 seat turnover so the GOP could work with Obama. We’re hoping it’s the other way around.

stands for decibels

November 8th, 2010
8:24 am

I’m still betting we’re going to see the House go thru the charade of voting repeal, then going back to ‘drop this, modify that.’ Gotta be able to say to their activist base ‘we tried.’

yeah, something like that. e.g….

there’s a filing provision (too lazy to look it up now) that’s unpopular on both sides of the aisle. It’ll apparently cost about 17 billion over, I think, ten years, if they don’t impose it. They’ll probably drop that, and nick away at a few other things, and both sides will try to take credit.

for all the shouting a year and a half ago, I find this a little strange, although TS Eliot would surely approve…

Call it like it is

November 8th, 2010
8:25 am

…could someone please remind this guy of the recession Clinton inherited from Bush?

not to mention, Hillary handled it BADLY – (closed door meetings, etc

Oh so for 8 years we were in a recession under Clinton?? Didnt know that. I guess you got me there sport. And Hillary had closed door meetings, and handled it Badly. Really closed door meetings…..Hmmmm sounds familiar, but I just cant quite place it.

Nofreecheese

November 8th, 2010
8:25 am

@ Joel Edge: I suppose politicians are like addicts who are “on the wagon”; we all know they’re going to relapse; it’s just a matter of when. After seeing “sure thing” Castle lose the Republican primary to O’Donnell, and Murkowski to Miller (they won’t count on a write-in campaign), I believe that for this election cycle they will walk the talk.

After that, they will go back to their old ways–b/c addicts nearly alway fall off the wagon and relapse.

Donovan

November 8th, 2010
8:26 am

My, my…look what the cat dragged in this morning with the opening bell of the Jay blog. Eric Cantor was spot on with his assessment of Her Majesty’s self-proclamation of House leader. Another two more years of her insufferable antics will finally drive a stake through her black heart, once and for all. This woman cannot get enough of the fame and power drug. She and the rest of her legion of liberal followers don’t even realize that she was hugely responsible for the historical gains made by the GOP in the House. These myrmidons are the same idiots who voted for Jimmy Carter, Clinton/Lewinsky, Charlie Rangel, Barbara Boxer, and Moonbeam. At least we will be taking away the keys to her Air Force 757.

TH

November 8th, 2010
8:26 am

Today is November 8.

BONER, WHERE ARE THE JOBS?

Ragnar Danneskjöld

November 8th, 2010
8:27 am

I think the democrats are probably right, that the problem is not the substance but the messaging-effort-thingy. I believe every leftist needs to go on a talk-show everyweek, and PMS-NBC 24/7, and talk about the glories of ObamaCare and the potential virtues of cap and tax and the need to ramp up Federal spending to create jobs and why it would be such a terrible thing to slow benefits growth in areas like Social Security and Medicare, maybe even proclaim that the war in Afghanistan is lost.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

November 8th, 2010
8:30 am

And by all means, the democrats need to oppose every republican effort to cut federal spending and reduce regulations. We need more spending and more regulations, to ensure the economy truly reflects the Ascent of Chauncey by 2012.

Paul

November 8th, 2010
8:30 am

TH

“Today is November 8. BONER, WHERE ARE THE JOBS?”

“Job growth picked up last month to 151,000 as employers across a broad spectrum of industries added to their staff, the Labor Department reported Friday morning.”

See? Business confidence in an upcoming Republican sweep led to a revision of hiring practices that led to positive job growth.

:-)

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

November 8th, 2010
8:31 am

Well, I want my Tax Cut, I need my Tax Cut, I demand my Tax Cut. And I’ll never get my Tax Cut with this Pelousy woman in charge. I don’t care if we need to borrow all of China, I want my Tax Cut.

Anyhow, I been out of touch alot this weekend and what I want to know is, is Obamacare repealed yet? How about these Equal Rights laws? Is there all kind of jobs out there now? Can the Boner afford a real vacation now so he can get a real tan instead of that orange glow he gets with all the chemicals?

I would stay longer but I got to get to hauling. Have a good day everybody.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

November 8th, 2010
8:32 am

And don’t let the republicans extend tax cuts, we want the economy to reflect the full effects of leftism.

AmVet

November 8th, 2010
8:33 am

Enjoy you victory, Peadawg.

I have zero reason to believe you will for long. A thirty year unbroken track record of failure and selling out the American people – across a very wide range of policies – ain’t something to get the warm and fuzzies about.

Worse, the war on progress is only going to backfire and blow more than a few of the backwards looking, reactionary heads off.

Yes, the Beckerhead has his idiotic war against progressives, but in the last 100 years or more, who exactly has brought forth many of the greatest things in this nation – including civil rights law, labor laws and environmental laws?

So work towards that goal of taking the country back to those romanticized days of the Joseph McCarthy and the 1950s.

I’ll keep on working towards the goal of taking the greatest of nations forward…

TaxPayer

November 8th, 2010
8:34 am

Did the Republicans promise to give us 8 percent unemployment if elected. Did they promise to stop illegal immigration or abortions or medicaid. What did they promise to do. I think Eric hinted at a promise to shut down government if he did not have his way with Obama. So, here’s hoping Eric is successful with his effort to shut down government. Do we have to pay taxes while government is shut down.

Deep Throat

November 8th, 2010
8:35 am

TH are you that st……. peloser is still in control and she is not going to do anything to help America.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

November 8th, 2010
8:37 am

The most important thing for democrats is to keep their eyes on the big picture – the most important message to convey to voters is that “nothing about the 2010 election results changed anything that democrats believe or would implement.”

BADA BING

November 8th, 2010
8:37 am

Didn’t she get arrested years ago for making a fur coat out of puppies?

AmVet's Mystery Meat

November 8th, 2010
8:38 am

Got to give props to the Old Hag… she knows how to work the system like no one else.

Paul

November 8th, 2010
8:39 am

sfd

In his interview with Bret Baier last week, Rep Boehner acknowledged there are good elements of the health reform bill, such as not being refused coverage for preexisting conditions.

RW-(the original)

I believe ‘rice vinegar’ and ‘rice wine vinegar’ are the same. ‘Seasoned’ adds salt and sugar. I don’t know if many people would be able to tell the difference, but in a recipe such as yours where it’s a main ingredient, I’d probably go for unseasoned. Just makes adjusting the saltiness and sweetness a bit easier. If I was using the seasoned I’d back off on the amount of salt and sugar added, taste and adjust to what I like.

DK

November 8th, 2010
8:39 am

Nancy Pelosi fights hard, and the fact that she is a woman infuriates many men and a lot of women.

Powerful women don’t get a lot of public love.

It’s a shame because most of these so called “men” don’t have half the guts or an ounce of the courage and fight she has.

kayaker 71

November 8th, 2010
8:41 am

Ben Stein’s commentary on the Sunday Morning Show yesterday pointed out two things that were absent in this last election. First, there was not a single candidate for national election that mentioned Iraq or Afghanistan where we still have service personnel dying every day. And no one mentioned the plight of the black male between the ages of 18 and 35 where the unemployment rate is close to 45%. In amongst all of this Pelosi and O’Donnell bashing, there ought to be room for two of the most pressing issues of the present day but no one said a word.

BADA BING

November 8th, 2010
8:41 am

This whole affair reminds me of The Wizard of OZ, you know, the House landing on an old witch.

Pensylvanian

November 8th, 2010
8:42 am

“GOP frowns” Jay – Where did you get this? The Rs are laughing at Pelosi. Come January, she will be as dangerous as a 14 year old toothless pit bull. Remains to be seen if the Dem caucus will actually vote her in as minority leader.

In the meantime, let’s see if Pelosi and Reid can get some funding for closing Gitmo through the lame duck session. President Obama really wants it, right?

Regina Folata

November 8th, 2010
8:43 am

The cranky old white geezers party can’t take Ms. Pelosi because she is a powerful highly intelligent WOMAN, and they just can’t stand it.

Bubba Bob

November 8th, 2010
8:43 am

Her approval rating is so high. She must be universally loved.

One Nation Under educated

November 8th, 2010
8:43 am

Absolutely keep her. Her position on tax cuts is perfect. Absolutely let all the tax cuts expire. Then submit a 2012 budget with the tax break for the 98% working poor & middle class in it, and let the supply-side jesus freaks run against that – all the way to November 2012. That will put them out of our misery. They’ll be able to have their next convention in an airport bathroom stall.

#1 Foxy Lady

November 8th, 2010
8:44 am

Nancy Pelosi is staying so

SUCK IT, LOSERS!

Bubba Bob

November 8th, 2010
8:44 am

Regina,

I am married to a powerful, highly intelligent WOMAN and I feel not threat whatsoever. I truly feel sorry for people like you who go through life thinking like this.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

November 8th, 2010
8:46 am

To paraphrase Ronaldus Magnus and Ann Coulter, today we are all racist bigoted cranky old white male homophobe geezers – it’s an economy thingy.

BADA BING

November 8th, 2010
8:46 am

Attention, you with the surprised looking eyebrows, yes you. Put down the gavel and back away.

RW-(the original)

November 8th, 2010
8:49 am

Paul,

Thanks. I tried looking it up but it seems there are just as many tips that say they’re the same as say they’re different. (Not the seasoned, we had no intention of using that and I was just curious what the seasoned part meant)

kayaker 71

November 8th, 2010
8:49 am

Regina,

The cranky old white geezer’s party kicked your sorry a** in this last election. Now that we have Bozo neutered, it’s time for step two. You still don’t get it.

@@

November 8th, 2010
8:50 am

…she has been an effective speaker whose leadership was essential in implementing the party’s agenda.

And therein lies the problem with career politicians…it’s about the party’s agenda, not the people’s agenda.

Joe

November 8th, 2010
8:51 am

Clearly you must not live in the real world Jay. Pelosi is one of the main reasons Republicans romped in last Tuesday’s elections. She is one of the many faces of the dem party who is so far to left she’s about to fall off the planet. So far out of the main stream that she makes Mike Moore look conservative. Ah Jay we truly welcome her back so we can use the same tactics again in 2012 that the loon from San Francisco along with Obama and Reid are the face of your fringe dem party….

AmVet

November 8th, 2010
8:51 am

The red, socialist Republicans’ love for the existing hegemony and their incessant desire to lick the boots of the monied bourgeois in hopes of a few extra nickles will not last.

The corporatocracy has sent not just your job, but your entire industry, career and future to:

India (Full Spectrum Services), Mexico (Full Spectrum Services), Ukraine (Programming and R&D), Bolivia (Web & Software Programming, Game Development, IT Support, Network Solutions, Offshore Outsourcing Service), Brazil (Web & Software Programming, Game Development, IT Support, Network Solutions, Offshore Outsourcing Service), Argentina (Full Spectrum Services), Indonesia (Programming, R&D, IT Support, Data Entry, Customer Support), China (Programming, Data Entry, Customer Support, F&A), Philippines (Customer Support, IT Support, Programming, Animation, Transcription), Russia (Programming and R&D), Pakistan (Full Spectrum Services), Panama (Programming, Customer Support), Nepal (Programming, Customer Support), Bangladesh (Web & Software Programming, Game Development, IT Support, Network Solutions, Offshore Outsourcing Service), Bulgaria (Programming and R&D), Belarus (Programming, R&D), Romania (Programming and IT), the Philippines (Programming, R&D, Data Entry and Customer Support, Egypt (Customer Support and Programming), Malaysia (Customer Support and R&D), Mauritius (ITO and BPO) and many others.

Get up off of your knees and quit pleading for mercy from the plutocrats, for gawdssakes!

Pensylvanian

November 8th, 2010
8:52 am

#1 Foxy Lady – “Nancy Pelosi is staying so SUCK IT, LOSERS!”

Pelosi doesn’t get to make the call, the causcus does. It’s questionable they will vote her in.

BTW, who are you calling LOSERS?