‘They’re smokin’ weed over there!’

Oh stands, you know the answer: moolah.

Oh, sure, that’s the short answer, but it doesn’t explain why it’s taken this long. Put another way, NORML’s been around for forty years. Is it really going to take another 40? really?

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“When stoned, I thought EVERYTHING tasted like Cheese Flavored Doritos.”

The only time when one can eat any combination of food and it all tastes great………may as well not have any flavor.

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“’Ive known a lot of people older than me who smoke (and some still do) weed and have yet to know or hear of any coming down with dementia that was linked to weed.”

But how do they know?

Sorry, Mick, just had to throw that in.

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Bosch

They might not know it but I do…I think….what were you saying?

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Bosch
October 29th, 2010
3:08 pm

Watch it, Bosch. I think my “acidic commentary” has Mick on edge.

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I’m looking forward to some music….means it’s quittin’ time…

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The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….

October 29th, 2010
2:55 pm
Thank God We Escaped!
October 29th, 2010
2:53 pm

Here’s the poster child for why we maaaaaaay not want to legalize weed here in Georgia

LOL. Jawja??? It is a cesspit of goobers, illegals, and a large poor resentful racial minority… Gooberstan will never legalize pot, and even if they did LOL it would be most unacceptable as a place to visit or live.

Part of the problem is the Goobers hijacked America with their sociopathic desires to order people around, esp. when it comes to pot or gay marriage.

Just sad, sick, depraved Bible-thumping losers, and those who must endure due to money, issues, and family or job obligations.

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“We are a Democratic Republic. “Democratic” is the brand (think Ford) and Republic is the model (think pick-up truck)”

Actually, Doggone, wouldn’t the model be, like, F-150?

Just saying.

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Speaking of pot and California, and baseball and stuff, did anybody see this?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/29/giants-fans-sing-along-to_n_775893.html

Dont’ worry wingnuts, it has nothing to do with politics.

I’m not a baseball fan, I didn’t even know who was in the World Series until today, but this was cool.

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“(several of mine were conceived using various forms of control, so I can vouch for the small percent on the side of the box).”

Same here. I thought we were the 1% — now I’ve met the other!

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md
**If you want to be that one,**

Your concern for me is touching, let’s just say I’m more concerned with my geneology about those type of things and having two family members that lived to 100 and were still pretty sharp, is encouraging.

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“Actually, Doggone, wouldn’t the model be, like, F-150?”

Well, when I fill out a ID form at a hotel, it say “make and model” of my vehicle. They want “Ford Van” not “Ford E250″ – I asked them to be sure.

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Bosch 3:04 – apparently I have too much to say for one person. Sorry, I have no direct quotes saying you don’t believe in “economic freedom.” There are these however.

http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2010/09/29/cbo-permanent-tax-cuts-bad-for-economy/comment-page-7/#comment-408649

http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2010/10/05/the-ethics-of-letting-someones-home-burn-down/comment-page-2/#comment-412001

But I’ll confess I couldn’t find as much anti-business dribble as comes out of a lot of people on this board.

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Thank God We Escaped!
October 29th, 2010
3:21 pm

I don’t. I asked you to enlighten me. That’s the best retort you have in your arsenal? Thank God You Escaped!

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I wonder if jay will incorporate this purple haze weed topic into tonites jam?

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Thank God We Escaped!
October 29th, 2010
3:24 pm

I implied nothing. Didn’t mean to step your toes.

Thank God You Escaped. We in Georgia are much better off.

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“let’s just say I’m more concerned with my geneology about those type of things and having two family members that lived to 100 and were still pretty sharp, is encouraging.”

maybe….maybe not……….the percentages may be that 2 in your family will live long lives……so in that case, no more will live that long………

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Bosch – apparently this doesn’t qualify as a retraction:

“But I’ll confess I couldn’t find as much anti-business dribble as comes out of a lot of people on this board.”

But let’s get to the brass tax. Do you think businesses are, on balance, good or bad? Simple question, simple answer.

And then we can drop it.

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And Bosch – I don’t have time to spend hours searching in the archives. 60 seconds yes. Hours, no. So I’m punting.

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Get all the seniors high and then the Republicans could cut their Medicare and Social Security at least in half and they wouldn’t even care.

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md
October 29th, 2010
3:30 pm

Those vehicles sound interesting. Do you have the VIN number so I can check their history?

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We’re a very litigious society. I’d predict, but what’s the point

can’t get much money out of a pot smoker…not a real motivated bunch, they

State’s creep.

Alrighty din!

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“I know what they will tell me:”

Nice try, Doggone, nice try.

Now, let’s drop this pettiness, shall we. It’s Friday.

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Bosch 3:32 – works for me. I would agree it’s a dumb question. But for some folks around here, its a complicated question, or the answer is “no.”

So in this madhouse, it’s not such a crazy question.

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“So in this madhouse, it’s not such a crazy question.”

So true, jm, so true.

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Now, Goobs, i have smoked pot on 4 continents… legally in Spain, Argentina, Uruguay, and illegally (mainly because of the US war on drugs) in Thailand. No problem. Also each has gay marriage, yet each is well-known for being a more desirable (LOL) destination than Dicksie and most of the US. So do not freak out and call for a holy war because more progressive US states want to get with the program.

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Burned one w/friends driving down Burnside yesterday – killer – and managed to not wreck or fall asleep. Alcohol at that level would have been impossible to handle driving.

Maybe should have swung into the Cannabis Cafe – PDX has a couple – but too busy getting ready to travel to another country where i hope to smoke some of their excellent product.

Now, lunch is over. Gotta go burn one!

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“I would pick a stoned driver over a stoned driver any day of the week.”

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The CA government should designate healthy munchie food, we don’t want to exacerbate the obesity problem.

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Ever wonder why the happiest people on the planet – kids – don’t need stimulants??

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IF P-19 fails it will be due to Ignorance,Fear and/or Greed.

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md
Do you know that it is almost universally true that children will spin around and laugh (be happy) about their altered state of mind due to what adults would call dizziness.
Yes kids may be happy but this is likely due to no fear, no family worries, no bills, no job requirements, etc. You know, the things adults need to deal with on a day to day basis.

But maybe you right. I’ll quit my job, move back in with my parents and act like a 3 year old. I should be plenty happy.

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More power to them! At least the first thing they want to do after lighting up is not get behind the wheel of a car like so many alcoholics do. Soros is saying what a lot of us have been for decades. Maybe his million bucks will get the right people’s attention.

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One important point… when talking about ramifications such as social addiction, just ponder that Goobers are Goobers, and a consciousness-enhancing substance cannot transcend that condition.

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“Yes kids may be happy but this is likely due to no fear, no family worries, no bills, no job requirements, etc. You know, the things adults need to deal with on a day to day basis.”

Haven’t read this thread, but does ^^^ that comment come from an adult who’s unable to cope with LIFE? An adult who needs someone or something (government) to compensate for their shortcomings/failures?

Pitiful, just PI-TI-FUL!!!!!

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Legalize It, Tax It, & Move on! Show your support for MMj! http://www.justlegalizeit.com

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While it’s fun and even appropriate to question the motivational level of the stoner vote, Prop. 19 has shown us that it’s not a single voting bloc anyway. Those who have a vested self-interest in medical marijuana — be it medical, political or purely financial — are among Prop. 19’s loudest critics, and like most campaigns the rhetoric has been heated. Adding to the angst is the regulatory backlash against Prop. 215 through dispensary and cultivation bans, a good preview of the legal challenges that Prop. 19 would face should it pass.

But Prop. 215 also reminds us that voters can force the hand of politicians and bureaucrats, who have made clear they lack the gumption to change our restrictive cannabis laws or respect the ones we have on the books. Prop. 19 is such an initiative, forcing cops and local officials to reboot their outdated and dangerous ideas about cannabis. Prop. 19 doesn’t solve all the problems, but it allows us to start working on them in earnest — unlike prohibition. And for progressive cities and counties, it can raise a few tax dollars in the process through retail sales, and that experience will bear fruit statewide somewhere down the road. After all, you can’t begin to attack illegal sales until legal sales channels exist to compete.

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While bullets fly into El Paso and bodies pile up in the streets of Juarez, and thugs with gold-plated AK-47s and albino tiger pens are beheading federal officials and dissolving their torsos in vats of acid, here are some facts concerning the peaceful situation in Holland. –Please save a copy and use it as a reference when debating prohibitionists who claim the exact opposite concerning reality as presented here below:

Cannabis-coffee-shops are not only restricted to the Capital of Holland, Amsterdam. They can be found in more than 50 cities and towns across the country. At present, only the retail sale of five grams is tolerated, so production remains criminalized. The mayors of a majority of the cities with coffeeshops have long urged the national government to also decriminalize the supply side.

A poll taken earlier this year indicated that some 50% of the Dutch population thinks cannabis should be fully legalized while only 25% wanted a complete ban. Even though 62% of the voters said they had never taken cannabis. An earlier poll also indicated 80% opposing coffee shop closures.

It is true that the number of coffee shops has fallen from its peak of around 2,500 throughout the country to around 700 now. The problems, if any, concern mostly marijuana-tourists and are largely confined to cities and small towns near the borders with Germany and Belgium. These problems, mostly involve traffic jams, and are the result of cannabis prohibition in neighboring countries. Public nuisance problems with the coffee shops are minimal when compared with bars, as is demonstrated by the rarity of calls for the police for problems at coffee shops.

While it is true that lifetime and past-month use rates did increase back in the seventies and eighties, the critics shamefully fail to report that there were comparable and larger increases in cannabis use in most, if not all, neighboring countries which continued complete prohibition.

According to the World Health Organization only 19.8 percent of the Dutch have used marijuana, less than half the U.S. figure.
In Holland 9.7% of young adults (aged 15 to 24) consume soft drugs once a month, comparable to the level in Italy (10.9%) and Germany (9.9%) and less than in the UK (15.8%) and Spain (16.4%). Few transcend to becoming problem drug users (0.44%), well below the average (0.52%) of the compared countries.

The WHO survey of 17 countries finds that the United States has the highest usage rates for nearly all illegal substances.

In the U.S. 42.4 percent admitted having used marijuana. The only other nation that came close was New Zealand, another bastion of get-tough policies, at 41.9 percent. No one else was even close. The results for cocaine use were similar, with the U.S. again leading the world by a large margin.

Even more striking is what the researchers found when they asked young adults when they had started using marijuana. Again, the U.S. led the world, with 20.2 percent trying marijuana by age 15. No other country was even close, and in Holland, just 7 percent used marijuana by 15 — roughly one-third of the U.S. figure.

In 1998, the US Drug Czar General Barry McCaffrey claimed that the U.S. had less than half the murder rate of the Netherlands. That’s drugs, he explained. The Dutch Central Bureau for Statistics immediately issued a special press release explaining that the actual Dutch murder rate is 1.8 per 100,000 people, or less than one-quarter the U.S. murder rate.

Here’s a very recent article by a psychiatrist from Amsterdam, exposing Drug Czar misinformation. Just put the following sentence in GOOGLE: “Amsterdam Psychiatrist Blasts US Drug Czars for Distortions, Fear-Mongering”

Now let’s look at a comparative analysis of the levels of cannabis use in two cities: Amsterdam and San Francisco, which was published in the American Journal of Public Health May 2004,

The San Francisco prevalence survey showed that 39.2% of the population had used cannabis. This is 3 times the prevalence found in the Amsterdam sample

Source: Craig Reinarman, Peter D.A. Cohen and Hendrien L. Kaal, The Limited Relevance of Drug Policy.

Moreover, 51% of people who had smoked cannabis in San Francisco reported that they were offered heroin, cocaine or amphetamine the last time they purchased cannabis. In contrast, only 15% of Amsterdam residents who had ingested marijuana reported the same conditions. Prohibition is the ‘Gateway Policy’ that forces cannabis seekers to buy from criminals who gladly expose them to harder drugs.

The indicators of death, disease and corruption are even much better in the Netherlands than in Sweden for instance, a country praised by UNODC for its so called successful drug policy.

Check out YouTube and watch Antonio Maria Costa doing his level best to avoid discussing the success of Dutch drug policy.

The Netherlands also provides heroin on prescription under tight regulation to about 1500 long-term heroin addicts for whom methadone maintenance treatment has failed.

The Dutch justice ministry announced, last year, the closure of eight prisons and cut 1,200 jobs in the prison system. A decline in crime has left many cells empty. There’s simply not enough criminals.

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