‘They’re smokin’ weed over there!’

A World Series between Texas and San Francisco promises to produce a culture clash or two, and it hasn’t disappointed, as this segment by a Dallas-Fort Worth TV reporter demonstrates:

View more news videos at: http://www.nbcdfw.com/video.

In response to the anchor’s question, no, it’s not legal out there. But it might be after Tuesday. California’s Proposition 19 on this year’s ballot would legalize possession of up to an ounce of marijuana and allow cities and counties to legalize and tax retail sale.

Polls report that the proposition is likely to be defeated, but it’s hard to say for sure. According to Ruth Bernstein, a pollster on the pro-legalization campaign, polls get one kind of answer when the question is posed by a human being, and another when it’s posed by a machine.

From the San Francisco Chronicle:

“Bernstein was so curious that on Oct. 13-14, the campaign ran side-by-side polls – one using live questioners, the other using automated voices. When a live person asked, 41 percent of the respondents favored legalizing pot, but when asked by an automated questioner, 56 percent said they supported legalization, according to the internal poll.

Among men, 42 percent told a live interviewer they backed legalization – but 61 percent backed legalizing dope to an automated questioner.”

In recent days, George Soros has even joined the fight, contributing a million dollars to the pro-legalization campaign. Writing recently in the Wall Street Journal, Soros argued that “regulating and taxing marijuana would simultaneously save taxpayers billions of dollars in enforcement and incarcerations costs, while providing billions of dollars in revenue annually.” It would “also reduce crime, violence and corruption associated with drug markets, and the violations of civil liberties and human rights that occur when large numbers of otherwise law abiding citizens are subject to arrest. Police could focus on serious crime instead.”

Putting Proposition 19 on the ballot may have another effect as well.

Back in 2004, you may remember, Georgia Republicans put a constitutional amendment on the ballot that forbid the state Legislature from legalizing gay marriage. There really wasn’t much danger of that happening, to put it mildly; the real purpose of the amendment was to draw social conservatives to the ballot box, where presumably they would also cast votes for Republican candidates.

That’s apparently the hope in California as well. Even if Proposition 19 fails to pass, backers are hoping that its presence on the ballot will draw young people to the voting booths who otherwise wouldn’t participate.

Of course, if those same young people are sitting at home stoned come Tuesday, getting them off the couch and out the door might be a problem.

277 comments Add your comment

carlosgvv

October 29th, 2010
12:23 pm

It is bad enough that many people drink and drive, causing thousands of deaths every year. Why would anyone want to legalize marijuania and have thousands more killed each year by stoned drivers?

md

October 29th, 2010
12:24 pm

“Of course, if those same young people are sitting at home stoned come Tuesday, getting them off the couch and out the door might be a problem.”

Probably have every intention of going to the polls, then after that first doobie the urge subsides and the real world takes over – the scavenge for food……….

jt

October 29th, 2010
12:26 pm

Who really cares if the State makes it legal or not? Nor the Federalies.

Nullification at its finest.

jm

October 29th, 2010
12:31 pm

Gotta say, I’m pulling for TX.

“Of course, if those same young people are sitting at home stoned come Tuesday, getting them off the couch and out the door might be a problem.”

That’s funny.

By the way, I’m ok legalizing pot as long as we (A) regulate it and tax it and run public service ads against it and (B) -would someone please – secure the border…., you know, one of those basic fundamental governmental activities…..

md

October 29th, 2010
12:31 pm

“Soros argued that “regulating and taxing marijuana would simultaneously save taxpayers billions of dollars in enforcement and incarcerations costs, while providing billions of dollars in revenue annually.”

Yet no mention of the increased costs associated with social addiction programs, lost productivity, job loss or the fact that when legal, the age of consumption drops……

Randalph on the Right

October 29th, 2010
12:36 pm

Of course it’s legal! How else to you get Nancy and Barbara elected?
Stoners rule!

jm

October 29th, 2010
12:36 pm

md – I hear you

“social addiction programs, lost productivity, job loss”

but remember that personal responsibility thing. And I also think people will probably get it if they want it anyway…. we have better uses for our prisons than pot smokers and dealers.

Nice Guy

October 29th, 2010
12:39 pm

“-would someone please – secure the border…., you know, one of those basic fundamental governmental activities….”

Careful, jm, you’ll might offend someone on here. Those illegals are victims of their own country, and as we learned earlier this week, victims are never, NEVER, at fault for anything.

Seriously, I’m with you. Seal the Fing border.

The Leg Lamp is a "major award"....

October 29th, 2010
12:39 pm

Sad, but if a cash starved state like California can suck some tax dollars out of legalizing it, then it will probably happen.

jm

October 29th, 2010
12:40 pm

Jay, I gotta say, the only two issues I’m a Dem on are the environment and infrastructure. Beyond that, I’m all Republican….

The D party needs to be more than a coalition of “single issue” voters. If not, it will drift back into the minority. The need to stake out the middle. And they’re not doing so currently.

The Leg Lamp is a "major award"....

October 29th, 2010
12:41 pm

jm
October 29th, 2010
12:31 pm

Are you talking about sealing the border south at Mexico, or just west of Arizona (California)?

jm

October 29th, 2010
12:42 pm

Nice Guy – liberals are easy to offend. apparently, even if you send them flowers…. (Angle)

Kamchak

October 29th, 2010
12:43 pm

Well, since businesses spend $1.2 billion a year on testing employees, someone has the incentive to maintain the status quo.

jm

October 29th, 2010
12:44 pm

Leg lamp 12:41 – :D

Well, I like (to visit) all of CA. Politically, perhaps we can just ring San Fran and Hollywood. The rest of CA is more than alright politically. When I was up in Medocino this summer, you would not believe the quantity of people griping about the Dems in the state and in DC. I mean, if you had an Obama sticker on your car, you probably should’ve been wearing body armor.

md

October 29th, 2010
12:44 pm

For all that insist on texting, etc while driving, these photos are for you:

http://www.streetlegaltv.com/news/suburban-spears-itself-on-guardrail/

Randalph on the Right

October 29th, 2010
12:45 pm

And that long haired pitcher for the Giants, he look like he might indulge in the ganja now and again…

jm

October 29th, 2010
12:46 pm

Leg Lamp – people forget, aside from a bit of LA and all of San Fran, CA is Republican (San Diego, Northern CA, eastern rural CA, and pretty much all other parts in between).

jm

October 29th, 2010
12:46 pm

md – yeah, that was trippy. and I didn’t smoke anything this morning.

Border's R Us

October 29th, 2010
12:47 pm

“-would someone please – secure the border…., you know, one of those basic fundamental governmental activities….”

Careful, jm, you’ll might offend someone on here. Those illegals are victims of their own country, and as we learned earlier this week, victims are never, NEVER, at fault for anything.

Seriously, I’m with you. Seal the Fing border.

Why wait on someone else to do it. Be a true conservative, and act on it yourself. Personal responsibility, right? Seal it yourselves!!!

http://jobsearch.usajobs.gov/search.aspx?q=border%20patrol%20agent&where=&brd=3876&vw=d&FedEmp=N&FedPub=Y&x=60&y=18&pg=1&re=10

md

October 29th, 2010
12:47 pm

“we have better uses for our prisons than pot smokers and dealers.”

They won’t be in prison, they will move to the unemployment line and all costs associated with it………

jm

October 29th, 2010
12:50 pm

Border’s – when I reach retirement age (or if I get rich), I just might. But that’s a ways from now.

USMC DAWG

October 29th, 2010
12:52 pm

Gosh, I agree with Jay Bookman AND Darth Vader (George Soros).

It is very similar to the experiment with Prohibition of alcohol that was a flop.

If someone wants to get drugs today, they will get them whether they are legal or not.

The crime associated with our current drug laws is off the charts.

And put a fraction of the money we are wasting fighting the drug war into pre-education, awareness, and aftercare for addicts.

jm

October 29th, 2010
12:52 pm

md – well, at least we can tax their pot purchases to help pay for their unemployment….

in all seriousness, I don’t think we would have drastically more pot smoking than already goes on. and I know of more than one person that smokes pot and does just fine at their job. including a few lawyers….

not that pot is making them smarter

Jay

October 29th, 2010
12:52 pm

well, jm, with 34 of 53 congressional seats — and both Senate seats — held by D’s, the numbers want to argue with your claim.

Aquagirl

October 29th, 2010
12:54 pm

Unwilling to take a pay cut to secure the border? Where’s your patriotism, jm?

Frank

October 29th, 2010
12:55 pm

I’m very surprised to read non-sense like this :
“Yet no mention of the increased costs associated with social addiction programs, lost productivity, job loss or the fact that when legal, the age of consumption drops…”
Do you think there are no addiction no lost productivitno job loss or no kids using drugs without prop 19?
What if nothing is going to happen? What if mj legal trading could keep your kids away from drug dealers (even if it was beacuse they would steal uncle john’s weed)?
If California won’t be able to control mj trade, you will make it illegal again.
California has the right to try a new policy!

jm

October 29th, 2010
12:55 pm

Jay – well, I stand corrected. But let’s do a recount after Nov 2nd, how’s that sound?

stands for decibels

October 29th, 2010
12:57 pm

42 percent told a live interviewer they backed legalization – but 61 percent backed legalizing dope to an automated questioner.”

That’s a pretty fearsome spread. interesting.

Jay, you touched on this in your piece, but to expand a bit, here’s 538 Nate, from 21 October…

It could also be the case that pollsters are under representing non-traditional voters, who may be inclined to vote solely because of Proposition 19. SurveyUSA, for instance, which is one of the few polls still to show Proposition 19 favored to pass, has found a group of “uniquely motivated” voters in California — people who might be weeded out (pardon the pun) by traditional likely voter screens, but who show a strong interest in this year’s elections. These voters favor Proposition 19 by a 7:4 ratio, according to SurveyUSA’s analysis, and could make the difference between its passage and its failure.

marky mark

October 29th, 2010
12:57 pm

Hey Border’s….you do know where the Border Patrol is trained dont you? Right here in Brunswick, GA at the FLETC. Federal Law Enforcement Training Center. And my ex-girlfriend (and friend of the last 35 years) is a retired teacher and is employed at FLETC as an actor. Being a drug smuggler, weapon smuggler, etc. Very realistic, in fact they have several blocks built like neighborhoods, docks, etc.

Except Denise and almost all of her co-workers have had to get other jobs….why? Since Obama was elected, they have cut training to one class this year. Where before, they had several classes with 20 – 30 students in each one constantly rotating in. They have been doing this, at least in my personal knowledge, since I was a 19 year old bar manager of Murphy’s Tavern in St Simons in 1978. Murphys was their hangout for instructors and students (also was the hangout for the park police and treasury agents but thats another story)

Paul

October 29th, 2010
12:57 pm

And maybe we could cut a significant portion of DEA’s in excess of $2billion budget? I mean, really, what results have we seen from all that spending?

From their 2010 budget justification:

“The Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) is the world’s leading drug enforcement agency
with more than 9,000 employees, including almost 600 stationed in 62 foreign countries around the globe. As the only single-mission federal agency dedicated to drug law enforcement, DEA developed a FY 2010 budget request with the goal of providing the critical resources necessary to reduce the availability of illicit drugs and the diversion of licit drugs and precursor chemicals in America. To accomplish this, DEA requests 9,577 positions (including 4,309 Special Agents), 9,420 Full-Time Equivalents (FTE),1 and $2,266,472,000.”

I’ve a friend who’s with a major contractor that supports DEA. The amount of wasted $$$$ is incredible, he tells me.

jm

October 29th, 2010
12:59 pm

Aquagirl – Bingo. There’s a lot of patriotism in helping this country become more prosperous though.

But if you must know, I’d love to do it, or serve in the military. But as far as the military goes, I wouldn’t cut the mustard due to health issues. And when I was young, I was persuaded out of it by some overbearing but concerned parents. I’m hoping I can do Vet recovery volunteer work and other non-profit work when I’m an old fart. Or sit on the border if need be.

MARK T

October 29th, 2010
1:01 pm

George Soros….there’s your sign

jm

October 29th, 2010
1:02 pm

Jay, you might want to take a look at this, even though it’s difficult to see whats going on since the map (as generally is done) is layed out by land area, not population.

http://elections.nytimes.com/2010/forecasts/house

The Leg Lamp is a "major award"....

October 29th, 2010
1:02 pm

MARK T
October 29th, 2010
1:01 pm

Look “dude”, you’ve stepped waaaaaay over the line, Kamchak hands out the signs around here. Back off. :cool:

MARK T

October 29th, 2010
1:03 pm

Instead of legalizing a drug to make profits, why dont they take a look at those union pensions, the real reason Cali is bankrupt

MARK T

October 29th, 2010
1:03 pm

HaHa, my bad Leg

The Leg Lamp is a "major award"....

October 29th, 2010
1:05 pm

jm
October 29th, 2010
1:02 pm

Wow, after looking at that map I now understand why Cynthia McKinney kept on getting elected. Her district was a gerrymandered mess.

stands for decibels

October 29th, 2010
1:06 pm

Jay, I think you are understating, a bit, the truly (and literally!) groundbreaking aspect of CA’s Prop 19.

It doesn’t simply legalize possession of up to an ounce; it permits individuals to cultivate their own plants in a space of up to 25 square feet.

md

October 29th, 2010
1:06 pm

“Do you think there are no addiction no lost productivitno job loss or no kids using drugs without prop 19?”

And you honestly don’t think it will go up with easier access???

You take all those currently in jail just for drugs and put them back into the workplace – how many end up unemployed when many companies are testing?

USMC DAWG

October 29th, 2010
1:08 pm

Reefer Madness!

Normal

October 29th, 2010
1:09 pm

James MacArthur played TV’s original ‘Danno.’ Died today…RIP

The Leg Lamp is a "major award"....

October 29th, 2010
1:10 pm

Only 5% prefer another candidate? That’s BS. Rasmussen needs to take another poll and contact me and my friends. 100% of us prefer another candidate.

“A new Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Voters in the state finds Deal earning 49% of the vote to Barnes’ 39%. Libertarian candidate John Monds is a distant third, picking up just five percent (5%) support. Another five percent (5%) prefer some other candidate, while one percent (1%) are undecided.”

John

October 29th, 2010
1:12 pm

Your all hypocrites…. it’s not about the plant making half of america lazy….. its not the mary jane….. its all in the head of the person consuming it….. i no for a fact cause ive smoked for years.. all through high school… and graduated with over a 3.0

Mick

October 29th, 2010
1:14 pm

Got to give california credit, they truly are progressive in their approach to dealing with the evil weed. Grow it, buy it, tax it, and keep it way from the kids…

jm

October 29th, 2010
1:15 pm

sfd – “plants in a space of up to 25 square feet”

I wish I could have a moonshine still. Legally.

stands for decibels

October 29th, 2010
1:15 pm

John… man… your rite…that’s deep… @ 1.12

md

October 29th, 2010
1:15 pm

“and graduated with over a 3.0″

Certainly not in English…………..

Kamchak

October 29th, 2010
1:15 pm

– how many end up unemployed when many companies are testing?

I believe that those testing companies will be the first casualties if this bill passes. Since there is no way to tell how long cannabis has been in a human body, testing will only prove that someone has engaged in legal activity.

stands for decibels

October 29th, 2010
1:16 pm

I wish I could have a moonshine still. Legally.

I wasn’t aware that such things were universally illegal throughout these 50 states–are they?

The Leg Lamp is a "major award"....

October 29th, 2010
1:16 pm

John
October 29th, 2010
1:12 pm

“with over a 3.0″

Is that sort of the weed version of blood alcohol content? :cool:

Border's R Us

October 29th, 2010
1:16 pm

jm

all gripe and no action then right?

The Leg Lamp is a "major award"....

October 29th, 2010
1:17 pm

stands for decibels
October 29th, 2010
1:15 pm

md
October 29th, 2010
1:15 pm

Ha! Good ones. :lol:

jm

October 29th, 2010
1:18 pm

Jay – doing some very tedious work with a different 538 map, they have 20 R’s and 33 D’s in the House from CA after Nov 2. Anyway, you still win….

md

October 29th, 2010
1:19 pm

I always found it a bit ironic that marijuana is being used to treat dementia………………what they don’t tell you is marijuana can also be a CAUSE of dementia…………….

Normal

October 29th, 2010
1:19 pm

Dawg,
Did you know who financed Reefer Maddness? The Alcohol Industry! They knew who there competition was, for sure…

And for you Christians out there. If God gave us dominion over all things on earth, why is pot illegal? What would you trust? Something that is God given or something that is man made? Just a thought…

John

October 29th, 2010
1:19 pm

Ok I’m on a computer im not trying to spell gramatical and what not…… but I think I am right and it just goes to show its not the plant its the person

RC

October 29th, 2010
1:19 pm

I can’t believe there are people who still think marijuana is addictive. What is this, 1940?

The whole point of legalization is that everyone who wants weed already gets it, and law enforcement causes more harm to our families than the drug ever could.

And I’m tired of this “we already have alcohol and tobacco…” crap. Alcohol has calories, makes people angry, causes fights, impairs sleep, and causes hangovers. Marijuana does none of these. I gladly substitute weed for alcohol. Tobacco is just pointless and harmful.

Driving while stoned will remain illegal, just like drunk driving. Why do you assume it’ll suddenly be an epidemic we don’t already see? Do you actually think the violent drug war does a single bit of good?

The scare tactics are getting old, guys. There aren’t many people ignorant enough to buy that anymore.

Border's R Us

October 29th, 2010
1:20 pm

marky mark

There is more than one FLETC. Border Patrol academy is in Artesia, NM along with a few other agencies. Brunswick is primarily CBP with ICE being the second largest group. Border Patrol has been hiring for years and had to lower their qualifications in years past because they were not getting enough applicants.

Republican Conservative

October 29th, 2010
1:20 pm

I smoked pot once, made me want to rape and kill…

Mick

October 29th, 2010
1:20 pm

md
**what they don’t tell you is marijuana can also be a CAUSE of dementia…………….**

Is that just a hunch you have or is there any research that backs up your claim?

Normal

October 29th, 2010
1:22 pm

I’m sure I have some good pot stories to tell, if I just could remember them…

jm

October 29th, 2010
1:22 pm

Apparently Border’s makes his / her own beer, food, and builds his / her own car and house.

“all gripe and no action then right?”

Nope, I vote.

md

October 29th, 2010
1:23 pm

“I believe that those testing companies will be the first casualties if this bill passes. Since there is no way to tell how long cannabis has been in a human body, testing will only prove that someone has engaged in legal activity.”

Where there is a will, there will be a way…….it will evolve into something that tells if one is still under the influence……just like alcohol. Technology is exponential.

jm

October 29th, 2010
1:24 pm

Employers can still discriminate against people who engage in a legal activity. Like smoking. Whether its cigarettes or pot.

Aquagirl

October 29th, 2010
1:25 pm

I can see you in your golden years, jm, camping next to the border in one of those oversized RV’s, with your fold-out chairs and hi-powered rifle, lol.

md

October 29th, 2010
1:26 pm

MARK T

October 29th, 2010
1:26 pm

md, dont bother…if if you had the research nd facts to back it up…Mick still wouldnt believe you

Matti

October 29th, 2010
1:26 pm

what they don’t tell you is marijuana can also be a CAUSE of dementia…………….

Oh! Uh, thanks for sharing. So, how much did you smoke before your dementia set in?

Kamchak

October 29th, 2010
1:28 pm

I wasn’t aware that such things were universally illegal throughout these 50 states–are they?

I think it has to do with the revenoors and their federal tax on distilled spirits.

md

October 29th, 2010
1:29 pm

“I can’t believe there are people who still think marijuana is addictive.”

Depends on ones definition of “addiction”. For the most part, it is habit.

jm

October 29th, 2010
1:29 pm

Aquagirl. Me too. Would be fun. Get me a computer to alert to crossers, reading some Robert Caro or Isaacson.

Only I wouldn’t be using a high powered rifle if it was just illegal immigrants. Drug dealers, I’d be calling the feds…. of course they don’t wear signs saying which they are. So I’d probably have the local feds on speed dial.

md

October 29th, 2010
1:30 pm

“So, how much did you smoke before your dementia set in?”

You’d be surprised…………..but I really can’t remember…………

stands for decibels

October 29th, 2010
1:30 pm

Did you know who financed Reefer Madness? The Alcohol Industry!

I don’t think so. Actually, its history is a lot more interesting than that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reefer_Madness#History

Mick

October 29th, 2010
1:30 pm

mark t

Obviously, it depends on where the facts are coming from; md is reliable unlike some others-

Christian

October 29th, 2010
1:30 pm

Jesus said, Whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them. (Matthew 7:12).

I know I would not want my child sent to jail with the sexual predators, or my aging parents to have their house confiscated and sold by the police, over a little marijuana.

We can change the world when we vote.

paleo-neoCarlinist

October 29th, 2010
1:31 pm

JB, I’m from New York, we don’t “spit” on the other team’s fans; we throw batteries or f-bombs, but as Veruca Salt told Willie Wonka; “spitting is a disgusting habit”. I don’t want to put the travelin’ cart before the horse, but as you know, aside from George Carlin, my other lord and savior is Dewy Cox. here’s some dialogue from Dewey’s first experience with reefer from the biopic Walk Hard (note Sam is played by Tim Meadows – he should have won an Oscar):

Dewey accidentally barges in a room filled with smoke and groupies

Sam: [coughs] Get outta here, Dewey!
Dewey Cox: What are y’all doin’ in here?
Sam: We’re smoking reefer and you don’t want no part of this sh*t.
Dewey Cox: You’re smoking *reefers*?
Sam: Yeah, ‘course we are; can’t you smell it?
Dewey Cox: No, Sam. I can’t.
Reefer Girl: Come on, Dewey! Join the party!
[takes a hit off a joint]
Sam: No, Dewey, you don’t want this. Get outta here!
Dewey Cox: You know what, I don’t want no hangover. I can’t get no hangover.
Sam: It doesn’t give you a hangover!
Dewey Cox: Wha-I get addicted to it or something?
Sam: It’s not habit-forming!
Dewey Cox: Oh, okay… well, I don’t know… I don’t want to overdose on it.
Sam: You can’t OD on it!
Dewey Cox: It’s not gonna make me wanna have sex, is it?
Sam: It makes sex even better!
Dewey Cox: Sounds kind of expensive.
Sam: It’s the cheapest drug there is.
Dewey Cox: [at a loss and out of excuses] Hmm.
Sam: You don’t want it!
Dewey Cox: I think I kinda want it.
Sam: Okay, but just this once. Come on in.

wet wiccan

October 29th, 2010
1:31 pm

md – Are you a real M.D.?

MARK T

October 29th, 2010
1:32 pm

So Mick, continuing from yesterday, how can dispute facts about something when you didnt even know what it was…Omnious Bill ring a bell

jm

October 29th, 2010
1:33 pm

Jay, by the way, my original premise regarding CA still holds true. It just so happens (obviously) that gobs of people live in SF and LA. The rest of the state (as I said) is mostly Red. It just so happens its also sparsely populated.

So in different ways, we’re both right.

md

October 29th, 2010
1:33 pm

“Employers can still discriminate against people who engage in a legal activity. Like smoking. Whether its cigarettes or pot.”

Bingo – employers will just add a box on the application – do you smoke pot? – all yeses will be discarded and those found to be smokers after the fact will get fired for lying on their applications…………….

Hillbilly Deluxe

October 29th, 2010
1:33 pm

Let’s not taint the sacred sport of baseball with politics (kinda like Friday night music).

sfd

Left you a comment in the “World’s Policeman” thread.

Border's R Us

October 29th, 2010
1:34 pm

jm

I don’t make those thing on my own. I also don’t complain about things I’m not willing to do myself.

stands for decibels

October 29th, 2010
1:34 pm

For the record, I’ve very, very little interest in partaking of this recreational substance should it become legal (again), but I strongly support efforts to make it legal and, of course, reasonably regulated. Of course adults shouldn’t be allowed to give or sell it to children, for example.

I also ask people to please take with a grain of salt some of the crazy estimates you may hear of the sort of cost savings and/or tax revenue projections that are tossed out there. Obviously, any reduction in the number of people incarcerated on possession or minor dealing would be a Good Thing fiscally, but I doubt there’d be enough on the savings or revenue side to make much of a budgetary difference anywhere.

Mick

October 29th, 2010
1:36 pm

mark t

You are the one who dismissed the true facts from the link I provided. Those are proven facts from actual spending accorded to the previous administration. Hey, believe what you want if it makes you feel good.

stands for decibels

October 29th, 2010
1:36 pm

It just so happens its also sparsely populated.

dirt doesn’t vote.

jm

October 29th, 2010
1:36 pm

Border’s – you’ve obviously never complained about anything then.

you can think about that one for a while. let’s catch up in an hour.

Hillbilly Deluxe

October 29th, 2010
1:37 pm

By the way, I believe you can have a “moonshine” still, if you go through all the proper permitting and pay your taxes.

Disclaimer: I come from a long line of people who engaged in this activity.

paleo-neoCarlinist

October 29th, 2010
1:38 pm

HD, producing moonshie or permits? I never took you for a “revenuer”

jm

October 29th, 2010
1:38 pm

Border’s – oh by the way, as I’ve stated, I am willing to go do it. Just when I have the spare time, you know, I’m willing to do it for free – how’ that? Or if they wanted to pay me my current pay. But that would be a bit non-sensical. I’d have to say the gov’t was wasting my tax dollars then.

MARK T

October 29th, 2010
1:39 pm

Mick, I didnt say anything about the previous administation..I realize he put us in debt…But while I can own up to that maybe you should own up to this president doing much of the same.in other words, not helping, only hurting!

stands for decibels

October 29th, 2010
1:39 pm

HD @ 1.33, I had a look.

Per usual you are eminently sensible, and you’ve made me ponder a thing or two heretofore not fully considered.

md

October 29th, 2010
1:39 pm

“I’m from New York, we don’t “spit” on the other team’s fans”

No, just wives of other teams players that happen to be involved in next years free agent market – not a wise move………….

Hillbilly Deluxe

October 29th, 2010
1:39 pm

paleo

Making corn liquor.

jm

October 29th, 2010
1:40 pm

sfd – “dirt doesn’t vote.” thanks. I’m aware. I was talking about Geography, if you read the whole series….

Border's R Us

October 29th, 2010
1:41 pm

You’re right. I don’t complain. If it’s something I don’t like, I do something about it. If it is something I do not want to get involved with, I don’t complain. It makes life easy. Just like weed. I don’t care what California does. I don’t smoke it, don’t want to smoke it, don’t want to sell it, or care who sells it. Therefore, you won’t hear me complain about their voting to make it legal.

md

October 29th, 2010
1:41 pm

“md – Are you a real M.D.?”

Let’s just say I had to keep up with some continuing education requirements on the subject – once upon a time………..and I did sleep at a Holiday Inn Express…………..

Border's R Us

October 29th, 2010
1:42 pm

jm

I’ll give you credit for your 1:38. Many people complain. Very few want to step up and do something about it. Even if it is a delayed action.

Mick

October 29th, 2010
1:44 pm

mark t

I guess thats why california is looking toward the weed for some badly needed revenue. Maybe it will start a revolution, the federal gov’t will take its cue and open up the whole US for consumption – all in the name of debt reduction. A deficit reduction lottery plus weed that is sold, bought, regulated and taxed but kept away from the children…because thats an infomnia..

stands for decibels

October 29th, 2010
1:45 pm

I was talking about Geography, if you read the whole series….

I did, mostly just pulling your leg with that, but I do occasionally encounter the sort who gets all googly-eyed upon seeing how Really Big Some of Those Red Land Masses Really Are. I figure you’re probably a tad more sophisticated than that.

(and what’s really funny is that the whole “red” and “blue” thing only used to mean “challenger” and “incumbent” for the purpose of TV election news graphics; it didn’t become affiliated with Rep. and Dem. until 2000.)

jm

October 29th, 2010
1:46 pm

Border’s – never called customer service eh? Never taken a car to a dealer to get something fixed instead of just fixing it yourself? Never moaned about an annoying neighbor. Border’s, I’m sorry, your statements ring so hollow, they might just cause this blog to fall over at any moment.

“Border’s r uS” is stinkin up the blog.