Political bloodlust a burden for post-election GOP

With power comes responsibility, and also danger. Eager as they are to reclaim control of the House and possibly the Senate, Republicans in Washington are also quite aware that they face a problem:

How do they appease the political bloodlust they’ve created and fed upon within the GOP base without alienating the more moderate center in the process? And if forced to choose between the two, which way will they turn?

To some degree, this is a uniquely modern problem. In the old days, politicians could feed red meat to the campaign crowds back home, while quietly finding ways to compromise in Washington. But with the rise of ideological enforcers in the media and blogosphere, that has become a much more difficult trick to pull off.

Just ask U.S. Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif.

Last week, in a Wall Street Journal story headlined “GOP House leaders seek to avoid past mistakes,” Issa was quoted to the effect that the House ought to at least try to find areas of agreement with the Obama administration.

“It’s pretty clear the American people expect us to use the existing gridlock to create compromise and advance their agenda. They want us to come together [with the administration] after we agree to disagree.”

“Compromise?” Did he really say “compromise?”

For that sin, Issa was summoned by the pope and forced to publicly recant his heresy. The outrage on the right was so intense that Issa was forced to call into the Rush Limbaugh show that very day to be scared straight by The Mighty One:

“The people that are going to secure the Republican victory look at Barack Obama as somebody who’s destroying their country. Not somebody to be compromised with, somebody who needs to be stopped. They know that you’re not going to have the ability to get him to agree with your legislation. You’re not going to be able to override his vetoes. But the idea that you’re gonna end up working with him is anathema. People want this man stopped.”

“… people don’t care about how the House runs. They don’t care about open debate. They care about stopping Obama and the Democrats! They care about saving the country! They don’t care if Obama goes to jail! They don’t care if Axelrod goes to jail. They want them stopped. They want them to have no power.”

Suitably chastened, Issa promised there would be no compromise of Republican values, and went on to call Obama “one of the most corrupt presidents in modern times.”

“I head the (House Oversight) committee that’s all about making sure that the administration obeys the law, that waste, fraud, and abuse not be tolerated, which obviously is not the case now, but that’s the change that’s going to happen from my position. I’m looking forward to it,” he told Limbaugh.

Placated, The Mighty One dismissed Issa and sent him on his way.

However, in a TV interview a few days later, Bloomberg’s Al Hunt asked Issa about that interview. It was pretty funny, in a sad sort of way:

HUNT: OK. You said Barack Obama is, quote, “one of the most corrupt presidents in modern times.” On corruption –

ISSA: My goodness, you’re listening to Rush Limbaugh.

HUNT: Yes, I am. On corruption, which presidents does he rank with? And what are his most corrupt acts?

ISSA: First of all, when you look at Sestak and Romanoff, this attempt to clear the primary, that’s an example where he’s not the most corrupt. It appears as though presidents have been doing this, even though it’s illegal, for a long time.

HUNT: Right. But where is he the most corrupt?

ISSA: I think the process that we’re dealing with, where insourcing, for example — and this is right on my committee — we have every day in the defense and non-defense community, executives of the government tapping people on the shoulder saying, “You know, your contract’s not going to be renewed. We’re going to insource that. You should take this job now for a pay raise.”

We’ve had example after example. Yes, we plan on investigating it. I want the American people to get products and services at the lowest possible price. I don’t want to determine that it should be in-house or out-of-house.

HUNT: But does that rank with Watergate and Teapot Dome as one of the most corrupt presidents in modern times?

ISSA: Well, that’s the question, is, what’s modern times? Certainly, you’re right. Teapot Dome’s a good example. Look, Andrew Jackson was the most corrupt president probably –

HUNT: Do you think Obama’s more corrupt than any president that you’ve known in the last 20 years?

ISSA: He certainly is playing faster and looser with the rules with very little justification than George W. Bush did. George W. Bush played fast and loose with the rules after 9/11 trying to make us safe. He did what he thought he had to do, and he did it with pretty — a lot of bravado.

It’s very different when you just simply say, “We’re going to insource things,” and all of your government begins insourcing without legitimate justification. The EPA acting without obeying its own rules, there’s a number of parts of government that have been working quickly –

HUNT: But do you still think he’s one of the most corrupt presidents –

(CROSSTALK)

ISSA: I think he has failed to administer his — to oversee his administration in any kind of a meaningful way. Vice President Biden was supposed to be the great overseer of stimulus money.

HUNT: Right.

ISSA: And he was supposed to do all this oversight. Chairman Towns — and I checked with him recently — and I, neither one of us have had a meeting with the vice president, and we’re the House committee of jurisdiction.

The next two years are going to be fascinating, in the same way that watching a car wreck is fascinating.

246 comments Add your comment

Jimmy62

October 28th, 2010
8:20 am

Or in the same way as watching the Obama administration crash and burn (predicted by so many of us) over the last two years.

Peadawg

October 28th, 2010
8:20 am

“The next two years are going to be fascinating, in the same way that watching a car wreck is fascinating.”

Y’all have had the house and senate since 2006 and haven’t done any good. It’s our turn again to give it a try.

USinUK

October 28th, 2010
8:22 am

“The next two years are going to be fascinating, in the same way that watching a car wreck is fascinating.”

meh – I had enough of “fascinating” when Gingrich et al ran the joint. what I’d like now is for these guys to act like GROWN-UPS and actually earn the salaries we pay them.

USinUK

October 28th, 2010
8:23 am

“It’s our turn again to give it a try.”

and, prior to that, you had it from 1995-2006 (Dems didn’t take control until 2007) … between 2000 and 2007, I just la-la-LOVED all that “fiscal conservatism” you preached

Jay

October 28th, 2010
8:24 am

USnUK, I believe that what we’re about to see will make Gingrich look as statesmanlike as Daniel Webster and Henry Clay.

Peadawg

October 28th, 2010
8:24 am

“I’d like now is for these guys to act like GROWN-UPS and actually earn the salaries we pay them.”

Like Pelosi who doesn’t know how to share and says “it’s my way or the highway” to everything the GOP suggests?

stands for decibels

October 28th, 2010
8:25 am

George W. Bush played fast and loose with the rules after 9/11 trying to make us safe.

It’s almost poetic, isn’t it?

USinUK

October 28th, 2010
8:26 am

Jay – I hear ya!

Peadawg – “Like Pelosi who doesn’t know how to share and says “it’s my way or the highway” to everything the GOP suggests?”

repeat it all you like – that doesn’t make it true. The House Dems have compromised with the GOP on all major bills …

Call it like it is

October 28th, 2010
8:27 am

Nothing good is going to happen here. You have a President who’s motto is it’s my way or the highway, and you will have a congress that will fight him tooth and nail on everything. I really don’t see anything good coming about anytime soon. Anybody have Sam Nunn’s number?

RGB

October 28th, 2010
8:28 am

I wouldn’t equate wanting to save the United States from collapse with bloodlust.

It’s simple: we want performance from our government. Performance doesn’t translate into more government, more services, more spending, and more debt. Give us less of all of the above, get out of the way of innovators and entrepreneurs–and let this country recover.

It’s not time to compromise with Democrats, it’s time to defeat them.

To put it in terms Obama may understand: “Get out of the car, stay in the ditch, and enjoy the view from below as we move the vehicle back on the road of opportunity.”

USinUK

October 28th, 2010
8:28 am

“You have a President who’s motto is it’s my way or the highway”

:lol:

sorry … I guess he should have said “I have a man date” and that would have been acceptable …

paleo-neoCarlinist

October 28th, 2010
8:29 am

JB, have to admit, didn’t get much beyond the first fallacious sentence. the correct mantra is; “with freedom comes responsibility.” to only “responsibility” of the those in power is to consolidate and excercise power – that’s why it’s called “power” and not “weakness”. ergo, those in danger are and always will be the rest of us. and truth be told, I don’t know that politicians of either party ever have “power” – they simple sell whatever power is connected with being a US citizen.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

October 28th, 2010
8:30 am

There is hope for the world, pray for a cure. Turns out that leftism is a genetic defect. Now we only need to develop a therapy. http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/weird/Scientists-May-Have-IDd-Liberal-Gene-105917218.html

Mick

October 28th, 2010
8:30 am

Rush limbaugh is the anti-pope and poster child for post high school education perspectives. Time is not on his side…

Belinda

October 28th, 2010
8:30 am

barking frog

October 28th, 2010
8:30 am

The Obama administration will begin to look more
like the Clinton administration..but that’s a good thing..
however I don’t think Michelle will allow interns the
same access to the President…

Keep up the good fight!

October 28th, 2010
8:30 am

I with you USinUK. Unfortunately, its going to be 2 more years of politics and to heck with the needs of the country. The days of reaching across the aisle have been put to death by the Party of No. They wont even risk it. And yet the supporters of the Party of No believe that reaching across the aisle means doing it their way only.

Keep up the good fight!

October 28th, 2010
8:31 am

Senator Franken has Rush pegged correctly many many years ago.

USinUK

October 28th, 2010
8:34 am

Keep up the good fight – 8:30 – well said

@@

October 28th, 2010
8:34 am

jay, early on the GOP heard the people pleading with President Obama. What were they asking? They were simply asking him to slow down. The GOP heard the people and echoed their plea. In that plea, what I was hearing was “Let’s talk.”

The Democrats AND President Obama turned a deaf ear to the people.

Is it any wonder the call going out is to “STOP” the Democrats. I think not.

The American people will not stand for being discounted.

The majority of us were willing to give this president his moment in the sun in hopes that he would shine. He hasn’t.

The sun is now setting on Democrats. It’ll rise on a new day…..Nov. 3rd. He’ll then be given another chance. What will he do with the next one?

It remains to be seen. He is no longer looking into the faces of hopeful Americans, he is looking into the faces of skeptical Americans.

He did it to himself.

Obama's

October 28th, 2010
8:35 am

Mankind is corrupt. Why should Obama be any different. The TeaPot Dome scandal? Is that where the Tea Party got it’s name?

Bush is the most corrupt individual of all time, prez or no prez. Cheney 2.

Everyone has forgotten Iraq and Afghanistan like they dint happen. America’s 14 second attention span.

We’ll get what we deserve: two years of pillage and plunder of any dough that’s out there by the GOP.

John K

October 28th, 2010
8:36 am

So Limbaugh is going to be the shadow congressman, keeping all the GOP minions in line. Love it. Any hint at compromise and they’ll have to call in to his show and apologize for falling off the straight and narrow.

Great way to insure Obama’s reelection. Love how conservatives are so anti-knowledge they don’t even know what happened after their 1994 sweep.

jt

October 28th, 2010
8:37 am

Issa should have said the most MORALLY corrupt president of all times. That is what Marxism is,……….corruption.

Incidentally, in 1794, thanks to Washington politicians and corrupt lawyers, over 70 MILLION acres of land were sold to American citizens in presentday Greene and Washington counties of Georgia.

The problem was, there was only about 700 thousand acres of actual land.

Kinda like government union pension plans or SS.

The more things change, the more they remain the same.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

October 28th, 2010
8:38 am

Hope you all saw the great essay by Shelby Steele this morning, online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304173704575578363243019000.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop

Pennsylvanian

October 28th, 2010
8:40 am

I guess he should have said “I have a man date” and that would have been acceptable …

President Feckless is queer? Bi? Michele better keep the female and the male interns under close check?

Marie

October 28th, 2010
8:40 am

Jay can you please explain to your dear readers how the President is now promising that he will work with the Republicans if they indeed do gain one or both houses of Congress? From everything I have read or heard he is in every way still bent on having his agenda passed. You know compromise is a two way street, however, members of the MSM only applaud McCain, Graham, Brown, etc., who are willing to agree with the Democrats. However, when Dems like Jim Marshall, Joe Lieberman or Zell Miller agree with Republicans then they are traitors.

Sorry as a conservative we owe the moderates in the Republican party NOTHING. Appeasers like Powell, McCain, Dole, etc., are losers and you know it. And since you know their appeasement will cause us elections in the future I can understand your desire to see the Republicans moderate to their ill-fated center. And I for one hope that does not happen — conservatism is the way to go!!!!

paleo-neoCarlinist

October 28th, 2010
8:40 am

Ragnar, I don’t have time to read the article, but does it suggest that being liberal is a “mutation” or “defect”? maybe “leftism” is not a disease (like say, homosexuality). perhaps it is (hold on) a byproduct of evolution; or the ongoing development and adaptation of the homo sapien species. and for the record, and by record, I mean the Bible (New Testament), I think the Gospels suggest maybe there is something to the idea of “intelligent design” as it relates to compassion and altruistism being the “norm” and the “kill or be killed” and “welcome to the jungle” ethos of the U.S/Globalist version of faux capitalism (plutocracy) is the disease/mutation, which threatens us as a species.

retired early

October 28th, 2010
8:41 am

Jay

You are forgetting the GOP mantra ” it’s the Democrats fault” whether they were in charge at the time or not. They have Obama to blame for at least 2 more years. Hell, it was the Dems fault during “W”’s 8 years, now, who would have guessed. So, what will change ?

Ramzad

October 28th, 2010
8:42 am

This is the kind of demagoguery that is Republican claim to fame. The American electorate with its second rate high school education can not seem to seperate this Issa, Limbaugh and Tea Party garbage from the facts of the true state
of the Nation’s economic and social conditions. It is people like these that America is depending on the save it. May God save our souls.

TnGelding

October 28th, 2010
8:43 am

Fascinating? What about tragic? We simply can’t give these clowns power back. They don’t even deserve to be on the bus. The Senate should remain the firewall, no matter what.

Don't Forget

October 28th, 2010
8:44 am

Former Bush secretary “Obama’s approval will rise 15 points in 6 months if the R’s take the house”
It’s easy to whine when you don’t have any responsibility. None of the R’s have been willing to give details on what they would do other than stop Obama. There’s a reason for that. Gonna be an interesting 2 years.

Mick

October 28th, 2010
8:45 am

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With all due respect, rush declared from day one that he hoped obama fails and his minions dutifully complied. Think about that. I didn’t care for bush but after 911 I gave him my support and he trashed it by invading iraq. After the biggest financial disaster since the great depression, obama has been given 0.0 cooperation and we know this because that was doofus mcconnells strategy all along – he and his party are a shameful disgrace..

USinUK

October 28th, 2010
8:45 am

“President Feckless is queer?”

don’t let Laura hear you say that … since it was her man who said it.

TaxPayer

October 28th, 2010
8:47 am

So, did Issa EVER justify his lie about Obama being the most corrupt president… Typical Republican.

USinUK

October 28th, 2010
8:50 am

Don’t Forget – “None of the R’s have been willing to give details on what they would do other than stop Obama.”

you’re forgetting that poop-in-the-punchbowl that was the Pledge to America:

The drafters of the successful two-page 1994 GOP Contract with America succinctly addressed several concerns that Americans of both party shared without delving deeply into partisan politics or divisive viewpoints. The document challenged the structure of Congress and the law-making process while declaring a need for specific laws at least some of which had bipartisan support.

The pledge, by contrast, reads as demagoguery; a reader without an understanding of how the U.S. political system works might conclude there wasn’t a single Republican in the Congress in the past eight years. The pledge is written in a hostile us-vs.-them tone. It pejoratively describes national health legislation enacted by the last Congress as “Obama’s takeover of health care” and implicitly disclaims Republican responsibility for everything from tax policy to unemployment rates.

Not only does the Pledge to America run on demagoguery, it takes controversial stances sure to alienate large numbers of voters. The pledge promises ban both direct public funding for abortion and abortion “subsidies,” thereby forcing all federal employees, Medicaid and Medicare recipients into health plans not offering abortion coverage, a highly controversial position that contravenes the will of non-conservatives; it pledges to honor “traditional marriage,” notwithstanding that same-sex marriage is permitted in five states and the District of Columbia, again alienating more than half of the electorate. Polling in August conducted by Gfk Roper and CNN shows that the majority of Americans now support gay marriage.

The pledge won’t persuade voters opposed to conservative Republican positions to jump on board. What may be most important to the GOP at this point in the election cycle, though, is swaying the Tea Party and bringing it into the fold. For that purpose, demagoguery may be all the Republican Party needs.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ac/20101006/cm_ac/6842280_opinion_can_gops_pledge_to_america_match_the_contract_with_america_or_mitigate_the_contract_from_america

Big D

October 28th, 2010
8:50 am

Ragnar…8:30.
Interesting….I guess that’s why I feel like I’m trying to tell a drunk that there drunk when I debate a liberal with iron clad information to their arguments.
I have all but given up with these goobs.
I just pray we neuter them next week.

Peadawg

October 28th, 2010
8:50 am

“The House Dems have compromised with the GOP on all major bills …”

Obama saying the Republicans are just going to have to come a long for the ride doesn’t sound like compromise to me.

ken R

October 28th, 2010
8:51 am

I hope the Republicans act just like ths Democrats did, never lie, air all your meetings in the open, show everything on c-span, give the public 5 days to view a bill so we could respond to it, pass major bills behind closed doors, anp play the fiddle, oops sorry, meant to say play a lot of golf while Rome burns.

Get the picture, Jay?

Doggone/GA

October 28th, 2010
8:51 am

“It’s almost poetic, isn’t it?”

I had the same reaction!

StJ

October 28th, 2010
8:51 am

Hopefully in the next 2 years at least we will slow down the bullet train to socialism, even if it can’t be turned around.

USinUK

October 28th, 2010
8:52 am

Peadawg – last time I checked, the president isn’t a member of the legislative body.

ken R

October 28th, 2010
8:52 am

Spelling off this morning, still drinking my coffee, sorry.

larry

October 28th, 2010
8:52 am

How can you compromise with people who do not want to ?

USinUK

October 28th, 2010
8:53 am

” hope the Republicans act just like ths Democrats did”

where do you think they got the playbook?

and 5 days? that’s 4 more days than the American Public got to review the “Patriot” act …

@@

October 28th, 2010
8:53 am

Mick:

How many times do I have to tell you guys….I DON’T LISTEN TO RUSH LIMBAUGH, but unlike the liberals, I will not deride, chastise, ridicule or try to silence those who do.

I leave that approach to the NPR’s (New Progressive Radio) of the world.

Smug does not appeal to people like myself.

Don't Forget

October 28th, 2010
8:54 am

The fact that no R can stand up to or disagree with Rush suggests one of two things. Either Rush is right about everything (yeah right) or they are weak leaders.

Obama's

October 28th, 2010
8:54 am

The idea that there could be genetic-based partianship is the fruition of the corrupted thought process that gets induced in a brain suffering from random matriarchal RNA mutations (which themselves are caused by lactose intolerant infants forced-breastfed by oblivious mothers, who unfortunately weren’t against drunk drivers), but also the very reason most readers here think that it’s a shame that Rag’s mum dint raise him to be a nicer girl.

barking frog

October 28th, 2010
8:55 am

Peadawg

October 28th, 2010
8:50 am
Obama saying the Republicans are just going to have to come a long for the ride doesn’t sound like compromise to me.

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It depends on what the meaning of the word ‘are’ are.

Atlanta 1

October 28th, 2010
8:55 am

Oh, like the compromise that the Democrats have shown in the last two (really four years) or even before this, when the Republicans were the majority.

No, the Democrats have been just as difficult to deal with. There has been little to no compromise by this administration and it’s leaders in the House and the Senate.

So now Jay writes how difficult it is going to be making sure that Russ Limbaugh and his listeners are happy.

The answer is simple; it doesn’t matter what the Republicans do, some on the right will not be happy. Just like some on the left are not happy now, despite the largest socialist program in 80 years being forced down the American peoples throat by the Democrats. And yes, it is forced when a majority of Americans do not want something and it is written into law anyway.

TaxPayer

October 28th, 2010
8:56 am

Do Republicans really think that just saying no constitutes debate. :roll: The last time I checked, debate required the use of fact to defend a position and that is the most logical explanation for Republican’s consistent fallback on the use of “no” and “I object”. It’s all they’ve got.

ken R

October 28th, 2010
8:56 am

Mick, you must have been born after the election of 2000, when the Dumbocrats tried to steal the election and called the Repubs every name in the book.

williebkind

October 28th, 2010
8:57 am

After the election the President will have the opportunity to give up his values and beliefs and accept the conservatives values and beliefs. I mean is that not compromise? Yeah, I know the liberals want you give up your core beliefs and accept their socialist ideals. If the conservatives do this, then the electors will vote them out. But why do the liberals want compromise now? Why can they not accept the same treatment they have been dishing out since the Obama and Plesi took charge? Did they do something wrong or unethical? Were the liberals too elite to debate with the conservatives? In my humble opinion, the conservatives should shut down Obama and Obama’s government. We as a nation can last until we get rid of all the progressive liberal socialist in government. Democrats take back your party!

Big D

October 28th, 2010
8:57 am

US/UK…8:50…
Say your house is burning up and your cat, kids and prize possessions are in the house…
Do you try to put it out…get cat, kids and possessions out…or…
Do you …call your insurance agent…then your builder to talk about a new house…
This is how silly you sound…
Our house is on fire…. lets put it out and then rebuild.

USinUK

October 28th, 2010
8:57 am

“Dumbocrats tried to steal the election ”

you mean “steal” the election in which Gore won the popular vote?

that election?

Bubba Bob

October 28th, 2010
8:58 am

Because Obama has been so compromising….whatever. He’s pushed through what he wanted to as best he could while ignoring the GOP. He could have been way more compromising (which he promised he would be).

I don’t like the political climate either but it’s not like the Dems are saints.

joe

October 28th, 2010
8:59 am

If the GOP wins both houses and BO continues to push his quazi-socialist policies, then nothing will get done. If the GOP wins, BO must realize he has to become a center-right President to get things accomplished. To build jobs, he has to appease Big Business, and his policies to date, don’t. If the GOP wins, BO will face the reality that his healthcare push might be DOA. He must act the way most American’s want him to, which is not pushing through lefty liberal policies that France and Canada run on. They won’t work here. The sooner BO realizes this, the better position he will be in.

Peadawg

October 28th, 2010
8:59 am

“last time I checked, the president isn’t a member of the legislative body.”

True but if Obama farts, Pelosi and Reid are right there to sniff and complement on the smell. Get what I mean?

Nice Guy

October 28th, 2010
8:59 am

“The next two years are going to be fascinating, in the same way that watching a car wreck is fascinating.”

Nice vote of confidence Jay, real nice.

USinUK

October 28th, 2010
9:00 am

Big D – speaking of silly … comparing a mid-term election to YOUR. HOUSE. IS. BURNING. DOWN. RUN!!! SAVE YOURSELVES!!!

drama queen much?

USinUK

October 28th, 2010
9:00 am

“True but if Obama farts, Pelosi and Reid are right there to sniff and complement on the smell. Get what I mean?”

um. no.

@@

October 28th, 2010
9:00 am

From Ragnar’s link at 8:38.

Our great presidents have been stewards, men who broadly identified with the whole of America. Stewardship meant responsibility even for those segments of America where one might be reviled. Surely Mr. Obama would claim such stewardship. But he has functioned more as a redeemer than a steward, a leader who sees a badness in us from which we must be redeemed. Many Americans are afraid of this because a mandate as grandiose as redemption justifies a vast expansion of government. A redeemer can’t just tweak and guide a faltering economy; he will need a trillion- dollar stimulus package. He can’t take on health care a step at a time; he must do it all at once, finally mandating that every citizen buy in.–Shelby Steele

On target!

ken R

October 28th, 2010
9:01 am

USinUK, I think that you have been out of the country to long, stop getting your news from the Brits. The Patriot act was for security, and the R’s never ever said anything about 5 days or lie on everything like Obama has, and you know it.

Piffle! like Granny says.

Jay

October 28th, 2010
9:01 am

Nice Guy, if I’m wrong, you’ll have the chance to say so.

But I’m not.

Nice Guy

October 28th, 2010
9:01 am

Taxpayer – “The last time I checked, debate required the use of fact to defend a position”

I think that’s largely true, but in case you haven’t noticed, many on this blog don’t use facts to support their position.

Peadawg

October 28th, 2010
9:01 am

“um. no.”

Well I can’t help ya there if you can’t get a simple analogy.

paleo-neoCarlinist

October 28th, 2010
9:03 am

@@, – I don’t listen to Rush either, but I most certainly will “deride” and “ridicule” any dim-wit who allows Rush Limbaugh to calibrate his/her moral or political compass. as far as “silence” goes, it’s not possible, so you’re not impressing me with this claim. ditto (npi) the “chastise” bona fide. we’re all grown ups (chronologically, anyway – I have my doubts of the political, emotional, and operational maturity of many Americans; left and right). I don’t “chastise” Limbaugh’s minions, but at a certain level I fear them (they vote and they reproduce)

Mick

October 28th, 2010
9:03 am

@@

You don’t listen to limbaugh but everyone in the republican party does and bows down to kiss his fat arse…name one just one, in that god forsaken party who has the cajones to go against him?

Pennsylvanian

October 28th, 2010
9:03 am

don’t let Laura hear you say that … since it was her man who said it.

That’s funny. Not as funny as President Feckless saying corpse man.

Big D

October 28th, 2010
9:03 am

US/UK….No…

Nice Guy

October 28th, 2010
9:04 am

“if I’m wrong, you’ll have the chance to say so.Ah yes”

You aren’t even going to give it a chance. When BHO was elected, I was not happy in the slightest, however, I gave him a chance. Its a shame that you can’t do the same, especially because you have so many loyal followers.

williebkind

October 28th, 2010
9:04 am

USinUK

October 28th, 2010
9:00 am
Just think of the eletion as a fire hose with hundres of gallons of water gushing onto that burning building.

USinUK

October 28th, 2010
9:04 am

ken – ” think that you have been out of the country to long, stop getting your news from the Brits. The Patriot act was for security”

not only was I there in 2001, I was in DC. I don’t care if the Patriot Act was about saving your mother who was being held by a family of rabid grizzlies. It still had LESS time, LESS scrutiny and, yes, less SUNSHINE than the health care bill did.

sorry if the facts get in the way of the little narrative you’ve got going there, but facts they are.

ken R

October 28th, 2010
9:05 am

USinUk, my God man get over it, Gore lost, the chads were counted twice and it’s 2010, not 2000.

How’s the Global Warming where you are??????

USinUK

October 28th, 2010
9:05 am

Bog D – 9:03 – going by the evidence I see today, I’d say you’re a natural.

Normal

October 28th, 2010
9:05 am

“ignoring the GOP” HA, that’s why they are called the party of NO…because they were ignored!? Ha, that’s rich! Gawd, I’ve laughed so hard I have the hiccups.

USinUK

October 28th, 2010
9:05 am

willieb – 9:04 – you mean the kind that actually destroys the items that the fire didn’t destroy?

yeah. that’s exactly what I was picturing.

USinUK

October 28th, 2010
9:06 am

ken R – YOU brought it up …

larry

October 28th, 2010
9:07 am

Lets see, the high for Oct. 27th today is 77, in the mountains no less. Global Warming indeed.

Curious Observer

October 28th, 2010
9:07 am

We’re in for two long years of stasis—investigations, posturing, deadlock. The only hope is that the economy will somehow turn around (then both sides will be rushing to take the credit.) Meantime, vital federal positions—judgeships, administrative positions, etc.—will go unfilled. The air will turn green with accusations, propaganda, and outright lies. There is no possibility of compromise—it takes two sides to compromise, and one side has already declared unremitting war. Funding will stall on financial regulation and the healthcare law.

But underneath all the turmoil something is rumbling. More and more Hispanics and blacks will attain voting age. Those who think it’s possible to stop progress and even reverse it will be in for a surprise, especially the Tea Partiers, who are in for inevitable disenchantment, once they discover that all those promises of cutting spending and lowering taxes even further cannot be met. It’s going to be as interesting as the Super Bowl.

@@

October 28th, 2010
9:09 am

paleo:

The fact that you think I’m trying to impress YOU proves my point. I’ve never sought to impress anyone other than my children.

People can take me as I am or leave me the hell alone. Liberals can do neither.

ken R

October 28th, 2010
9:09 am

USinUK, You are absolutely right we should have put the Patriot act out there for Bin Laden and all the rest of the Terrorists to see and debate before it was signed, right on. And my Mother died a horrible death, thanks for reminding me, Sport!

Big D

October 28th, 2010
9:09 am

US/UK…
From what I see you post all the time you are inexperienced in life and naive…

paleo-neoCarlinist

October 28th, 2010
9:10 am

@@, and is it not interesting that were Mr. Steele to replace Obama with Reagan (and “healthcare” with “star wars”) it would be essentially the same article? I do agree that great leaders are “stewards”. stewards are beholden to the United States and not some partisan agenda or better mousetrap. to wit; there are more important issues than trapping mice. the Constitution is the mousetrap and it kinda accepts that we will never be entirely mouse free (ideological extremism).

USinUK

October 28th, 2010
9:11 am

ken r – sorry about your mom – mine did, too.

but, legislation is legislation – and those men and women are there to represent US. you want to start giving Congress the right to decide what we should and shouldn’t see???

OBAMINATION

October 28th, 2010
9:11 am

=) From all the liberal rhetoric I’ve been reading, it sounds like the lefty’s have already conceded the election. But hey, with a republican congress, Obama will have somebody else to blame other than Bush. Ironic how this change is coming about.

USinUK

October 28th, 2010
9:11 am

Big D – well, if you say it, then by golly, it MUST be true.

Don't Forget

October 28th, 2010
9:12 am

Nice Guy

October 28th, 2010
9:04 am

You aren’t even going to give it a chance. When BHO was elected, I was not happy in the slightest, however, I gave him a chance.
—————————————————————————————-
Well, let the rewriting of history begin

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_011609/content/01125113.guest.html

Of course we don’t want the R’s to fail, just their policies. :wink:

bobbyw

October 28th, 2010
9:12 am

Its simple. Our elected officials, Republicans and Democrats, have come to believe we work for them. They are public servants and are supposed to work for us. Obama takes it to a new level we have never seen. He is a marxist, plain and simple.

Pennsylvanian

October 28th, 2010
9:13 am

“you want to start giving Congress the right to decide what we should and shouldn’t see???”

Like HCR?

TaxPayer

October 28th, 2010
9:14 am

So tell us, Republicans, how tax cuts are going to pay off the debt and balance the budget. And please don’t leave out the details such as what tax-funded items you will cut and how much each cut will actually reduce the debt and deficit while simultaneously providing enough surplus to return more tax dollars to those paying the taxes… I know! Why don’t you sit down with the social security recipients and tell them that there simply is not enough money to pay them what they currently get (ditto for future retirees and Medicare recipients, etc., that are currently supported by payroll taxes) and then divert the payroll taxes to the general budget and claim that it is a surplus that needs to be returned to the payers of the income taxes. I think with a little effort and some pretty charts and rhetoric about future generations, any Republican worthy of Limbaugh’s blessing should be able to pull it off.

ken R

October 28th, 2010
9:14 am

USinUK, accepted, and no I don’t want to give Congress that right, I’m only sayint that Obama made many promises and he has not kept them, surely you can agree with that.

Big D

October 28th, 2010
9:14 am

US/UK… No ..again.
You say things that make it very obvious…

JDW

October 28th, 2010
9:15 am

Ken R wrote

“Gore lost, the chads were counted twice and it’s 2010, not 2000.”

What made that work so well is the way Bush came out and said “Folks this is the United States of America, here we have fair elections and count all the votes. We will all work to make sure each and every valid vote is properly counted, because after all that is what is important…

O’wait alternate reality…he had a Republican shill certify the election and then sued…my bad.

Keep up the good fight!

October 28th, 2010
9:15 am

Dont Forget…..I amended your statement. Of course we don’t want the R’s to fail, just their policies before they almost destroy the country again.

USinUK

October 28th, 2010
9:16 am

Pennsylvanian – I’m so sorry to hear that you were in a coma all during the health care summer town hall meetings …

glad to hear you’re on the mend.

td

October 28th, 2010
9:16 am

USinUK

October 28th, 2010
8:26 am
Jay – I hear ya!

Peadawg – “Like Pelosi who doesn’t know how to share and says “it’s my way or the highway” to everything the GOP suggests?”

repeat it all you like – that doesn’t make it true. The House Dems have compromised with the GOP on all major bills …

Please send me some of whatever you are smoking. Pelosi had to compromise a little with the Blue Dogs but she just pretended the Republicans did not exist.

retired early

October 28th, 2010
9:16 am

USinUK

You remind me of a former coworker who is a self described born again christian. We were friends who agreed on a lot of things until it came to politics.
I ask him one day if he had a choice of voting for one of two candidates as follows:
One candidate was the best in the history of the country to run and would do great things for our country; however, he was Pro abortion.
The other candidate would become our worst president ever; but was Pro life.
This was a real conservation, I am not making this up.
My co worker said he would have to choose the Pro life one.
I think that says a lot about what is truly driving the GOP these days.

USinUK

October 28th, 2010
9:16 am

Big D – “You say things that make it very obvious…”

much like your Drama Queen-ness

@@

October 28th, 2010
9:17 am

Curious Observer:

But underneath all the turmoil something is rumbling. More and more Hispanics and blacks will attain voting age.

Tell me, are you declaring ownership of that segment of the American people? Do you consider them bought and paid for? The Democratic Party’s slaves, are they?

The things you liberals say without realizing what you said…

Unbelievable!

jt

October 28th, 2010
9:17 am

TARP supporters or yea voters have absolutely NO credibility when calling anyone corrupt.

And those who believe that TARP was a good idea have no credibility when calling anyone dum or naive.

Republicans nor Democrats will stop fleecing the middle class until they ABSOLUTELY have to.
Here are 75 ways they will continue to do so regardless of who wins on Tuesday. Rejoice progressives, the money trucks will still flow to Washington.

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/75-ways-that-the-government-and-the-financial-elite-will-be-sucking-even-more-of-the-life-blood-out-of-