Obama odds in 2012 look better and better

… add to that the GOP peanut gallery waiting to run (yeah, I’m looking at you, St. Sarah of the Tundra), and his chances look better and better …

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ken R
“Time will tell” ….indeed it will!!

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2012 will be a cake walk for obama and, after seeing how bad the 2010 rush to elect any and every (R) with a pulse, the American people will vote the Democrats back into control of both houses.

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Clinton got reelected because he compromised and went right with welfare reform. Obama seems unwilling to move right to compromise. Yours and his version of compromise seems to be that the GOP move left rather then the two meet in the middle. Of course the real middle is libertarian, which the majority of Americans are in principle if not in party identification, and the left is never going to believe that government is not the answer to all our problems.

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“Obama will also have history on his side”

There has never been a President this dangerous to our Republic. People are waking up. We’ll see.

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I hope for “total gridlock” it will stop the Out of G.D control federal gubmint from doing anything.

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I’d prefer a “do nothing” congress ove what we have now.

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He likes to say things that divide not that unite and to win in 2012 that has to change!!

posted right after Mr. Right wrote: The President needs to change his tone from “they are the enemies” and ” they have to ride in the back” [ couldn't anybody get by with saying that about him].

pot, meet kettle

you can’t make this hilarity up

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And what was made up??

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“Some Republican needs to neuter Rush, but I don’t see how.”

good gawd.

I actually agree with jm.

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scout
**There has never been a President this dangerous to our Republic. People are waking up. We’ll see.**

I think the republican party is way more dangerous….the people probably need another jolt anyway…if this crew takes over then we’ll see which way we go..

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USinIK, BIG GOV can fix it all, oops, history tells a different story!!

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FinnMcCool

October 28th, 2010
10:33 am

What part was made up??

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Mr Right –

without Big Gov, you wouldn’t have interstates

without Big Gov, we wouldn’t have food and drug standards

without Big Gov, the country wouldn’t have a cohesive monetary policy

without Big Gov, you wouldn’t have clean air and water

without Big Gov, cleanup and recovery after devastating storms and events would take longer and cost more

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Wingnut extinction is still comin, fellas. It’s just a little farther down the road than I originally smelled it.

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Meant to say “Tan-Boy…”

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USinUK– sooo we need to let BIG GOV control our life because they gave us a few good things?

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jm – “Obama himself said he got 90% of what he wanted on Health Care Reform”

good grief – there’s a world of difference between what one WANTS and what one ASKS FOR. if you go into a negotiation thinking that you’re willing to take XYZ, you ask for UVWXYZ – if you get UVW, that’s gravy. If you walk away with XYZ, that doesn’t mean that you didn’t negotiate.

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USinUK,

Yep, and don’t forget:

without Big Gov, you wouldn’t have had railroads and thus probably the modern transportation infrastructure

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With a fractured Dem party I would say that Obama’s 012 chances will get dimmer and dimmer. Of course Americans want compromise but not to accommodate the far-left agenda that’s been pushed by Obama, Reid and Polosi. That direction has proven to be unacceptable for the American majority. My prediction is that the onus will be on the Democrats to do an about face and turn to the right. Obama is a product of far left ideology and I don’t see him being able to move in that direction as Clinton did. So, unlike Clinton he’ll become more and more marginalized as his term in office winds down.

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“Tan-Boy”

Original and funny!!!

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Yea BIG GOV is wonderful , they also gave us a debt that we will never be able to repay!

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Bosch

Saw it – left a comment for you – and my 10:24 was right there with your 10:28

Hey, remember David Zucker? One of the writers of Airplane and Naked Gun? He’s back at it with political spoof commercials!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKHIoaflBR8

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Mr Right – “they also gave us a debt that we will never be able to repay!”

and did I say that gummint spending doesn’t need to be cut?

dude. seriously. stick to the subject and stop getting distracted by shiny objects

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Paul – you know your USinUK file? hopefully my 6:02 (from downstairs +1) will help

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Mr. Right, i didn’t say you made anything up. Reread the post.

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Some myths about obama:
“The list of public misconceptions is long and politically crippling. Maybe the single most damaging is that the Obama administration has brought about an epidemic of government spending, tripling the yearly budget deficit and vastly increasing the national debt.

Never happened. History records that President George W. Bush, who inherited a $236 billion government surplus from the Clinton administration in 2001, handed President Obama a stacked deck eight years later.

The Congressional Budget Office’s projected budget deficit for FY2009, beginning four months before Obama took office, was already in excess of $1.3 trillion. Indeed, the 2011 budget deficit is projected to be ever-so-slightly lower than the one Bush left on the White House doorstep. Despite the one-time $787 billion economic stimulus (spread over three years), no huge growth in government spending has taken place on Obama’s watch.

Three proximate causes of the rising national debt remain: the Bush tax cuts of 2001, his unfunded Medicare drug benefit, and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Alas, stating these historical facts has been declared out of bounds. It’s playing the “blame game,” a formulation greatly persuasive to Tea Partiers and conservative talk-show hosts basically because it rhymes.”
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/barack_obama/index.html?story=/opinion/feature/2010/10/27/gene_lyons_believe_the_facts

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Without big gov you wouldn’t have infrastructure in the US.

Without infrastructure, you have no transit system (let’s see Wal Mart get as big as it is with horse and buggy delivering it’s chinese wares from a port city to your hometown.)

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How much entrepreneurial risk and spirit would you see in the US if there was no safety net of social security/medicare/Medicaid?

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Ensuring minimum deductibles before insurance kicks in so people become more price sensitive, reducing overall costs

Oh that definitely makes sense. Because when you are sick or injured, that is the time to shop around. When you are ill and feeling miserable, shop for that pharmacy discount from any number of stores. In a car wreck and injured…wait, let me check the internet for hospital pricing.

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Jay, love the Johnny Isakson ad on your page!

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Paul 10:57 – I have no idea. We’ll have to wait and see. I think there’s room to compromise. Ie, there are ideas some R’s and some D’s both think are good ideas. We’ll see…

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Okay Nostradamus, then who should I put my bet on to win the Super Bowl this year?

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There are a lot of high expectations for spending adjustments. Just like people had high expectations two years ago. Republicans don’t deliver, they’ll face the same outrage.

Worry not. They’ll go after the peanuts on the bar floor—pay freezes for federal employees, a half-hearted effort to “reform” Social Security, a failed attempt to repeal the healthcare law, etc. They won’t touch the big-ticket items—a Defense Department budget bloated by spending for duplicate jet engines that even the Pentagon didn’t want, tax cuts we can’t afford, restoring funding for a joint command in Virginia that the Defense Secretary identified as redundant, outrageous agricultural subsidies, etc. And they’ll drag out the great super-patriotic posture to justify their behavior.

It’s like watching a play for the fifth time. We all know how it’s going to end.

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Paul – you got that right – perfection is a quest, unobtainable but a challenge

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I’m waiting for the only unplayed card in the presidential
political deck. Lame duck resignation a year before the
election to give the VP a head start. It could happen.

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jm “By the way, Rush is just trying to act as a counterweight to the insane long term leftward drift of this country over the last 50 years.”

No trace of irony here, jm, which leads me to believe you actually believe this. Which causes me to think you’re one of those conservative-leaning people who turn to conservativism as a reaction to a fear that the old norms of decency and order have broken down, that the world’s going to hell in a hand basket, etc. In fact, the main reason for the breakdown in traditional ways of life is the rise and dominance of Capital, not of some ‘leftward drift’ in the culture. The so-called culture wars is the greatest con and diversion ever put over by Big Capital.

FinnMcCool: “Without infrastructure, you have no transit system (let’s see Wal Mart get as big as it is with horse and buggy…”

So-called ‘conservatives’ and Tea Party believers need to be instructed that historically there has been, and continues to be today, one major benefactor to big government and one only: Big Capital. And this while carrying out a campaign to disavow its dependence on it and to neuter it in its regulatory functions.

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Mystery meat, how about doing what the FDA does? What state entity do you want inspecting your mystery meat in the grocery store?

Maybe you want each town or maybe county to set up it’s own meat and vegetable inspection units? How long before one county get’s sick and then spreads that sickness to other towns? And of course you would have to limit where meat produced in that town/county could be shipped so there goes industry out the window.

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left wing – I didn’t say our culture was drifting leftward. But our government is. That’s the natural progression of things. It takes an alert electorate to stem the tide. But I think they’ve woken up….

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“Direct relationship between the cost and benefit to and from the users.”

And I avoid them whenever humanely possible. The GA 400 toll road has made exactly 50 cents from me in all the years it has existed, and I only paid that because I was not able to get off at the last exit..which I did try to do.

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“RB doesn’t care that our interstates and bridges are crumbling? Do nothing and let’s take care of these infrastructure problems maybe in 20 years? Let our children clean up the mess.”

Gee, that’s all our government spends money on??? What a shock!!

Tip for you Finn. If that’s all the debate you’ve got, stay on the porch and let the big kids handle what the government actually does.

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barking frog: “Lame duck resignation a year before the election to give the VP a head start”

Might be a great opportunity for Obama to show he really meant it when he spoke for “change”. What better way to exemplify true change than to take one for the team and step down for a stronger leader to step in?

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“taking a page from the GOP playbook, “oh, hell no” …”

I agree

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Yep. Love those toll lanes. After you pay taxes to build the road and pay taxes to build the HOV lanes , you are paying again to travel on them. Nothing like being taxed three times just to drive on an interstate.

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Don’t Forget – it’s the “balloon” problem familiar to the folks in health care policy circles. The reason private insurance is going up through the roof is because Medicare underpays for services.

When people have to pay for what they want, then people will be more price sensitive. I’ll add two “caveats”. I’m not the most familiar with Medicare as far as the payments people make when in the system (like Medicare Advantage). And I also think we have to retain a health care system for the destitute.

It was generally assumed most people would be destitute at 65. That’s not really the case anymore. Privatize it, fix it. Keep / improve health care for those without any financial means of their own.

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Oh, Jay… You’ve got to be kidding all of us, right? This country as a whole has rejected this president and his kooky agenda. All of his lame brain initiatives and passed legislation have not worked. He was elected on a pixie dust campaign of Hope & Change. How is that Hope & Change working out for all of you who put him in office? His most recent political oratory plea to the public is “change takes time”. We don’t need 2 more years of his kind of nation destroying Hope & Change. Massive spending, generational debt, unemployment at 10%, economic uncertainty, higher taxes, and a Congress that has the lowest rating in history will not support your idea that this inept president will be reelected. Liberals are incapable of being pragmatic and therefore they find themselves generally rejected in their long term agenda. November 2 should the greatest example of a national referendum to the agenda set forth by this liberal establishment that was so foolishly put in place back in 2006.

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“Boehner has already (vaccillatingly – if that’s a word) indicated he’s open to compromise”

Ummm…I guess you didn’t actually READ the quotes that began Jay’s commentary, on which blog entry you are posting (as of YESTERDAY):

“This is not a time for compromise, and I can tell you that we will not compromise on our principles,” Boehner said….

As for Obama’s own agenda, Boehner promised, “We’re going to do everything – and I mean everything we can do – to kill it, stop it, slow it down, whatever we can.”

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!”The reason private insurance is going up through the roof is because Medicare underpays for services”

no … no … no … no … NO

the reason private insurance is going through the roof is because bond yields are at historic lows … when investment income is down, companies need to make up the difference – they do that by hiking premiums.

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You Lefties are soooo entertaining. Face it, your party is just like mine. Alone, you don’t not have enough votes to win. It takes the rational middle to produce the winner. They see what Obama has done. They will make their voices heard next week. They are not stupid, they don’t need your or my guidance. They like the Right are willing to stop Obama now, then put him out to pasture in 2012. Geez, you guys are sore losers and the results aren’t even in yet! But, I do like the way you gave up so soon.

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“Did anyone expect a different result from a Bloomberg poll?”

um. are you under some kind of mistaken belief that Bloomberg is liberal???

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Nothing is free Hon. Did the funds for our highways just materialize out of thin air?

Come on WOMAN! Think a little bit.

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“um. are you under some kind of mistaken belief that Bloomberg is liberal???”

But of course, the results didn’t favor Republican mule-headedness…so it MUST be a “liberal” poll, right?

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Things are beginning to look better for the Dems in 2010.

All the hype and bluster about the tidal wave of Repub economic gain appears to be overdone.
The Dems will win/retain Senate seats in CT, DE, NC, KY, WI, IL, NV, CA, WA, CO, WV. Mr. Crist will win in FL and Lisa Murkowski, both independets thrown out of the Republican party will win their states.

The House is a more uncertain, but appears to be going to Dems in that they will maintain a slight majority.

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jm – “Health insurance companies don’t work like life insurance companies”

I didn’t say they did – they operate more like P&C companies – which do the exact same thing – bond yields down / premiums up.

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Change “economic gain” to “political gain”

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gotta train to catch …

have a good night!

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Jackie,

Are you by any chance interested in some ocean front property I’ve got in Tennessee?

/drive by, but I’ll check back for your offer.

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Johnny Reb

Comment for you downstairs regarding ““You want to do all these wonderful things, save humanity, etc.The problem is, you want to do it with someone elses money.”

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I saw your 11:13 downstairs and thought “When you go to what the left calls extreme right-wing blogs, the discussions/comments regarding Ryan are very interesting. While they may not agree 100% with his Roadmap, they see it as an acceptable launching pad.” was hopeful.

Did you see Jay’s 11:00?

“So @@, I take it you like Ryan’s proposal to impose a VAT here in these United States of America?”

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USinUK

October 28th, 2010
11:15 am

Is our government providing the infrastructure for free?

i must have missed that one and was unaware the infrastructure programs and strutures are paid for with tax money still right?

I believe the argument is that the gov. does not have to worry about profits or even going out of business..

When it is actually a single person or group of people’s money they tend to eliminate as much waste as possible…. There are bad companies out there so please don’t use that excuse as their is a UPS or FedEx for every post office.

Now I know you aren’t against cutting waste.

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USinUK 11:27

Quip of the Day!

g’night to you -

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jm, medicare does pay less than private but private uses that to keep reimbursment down. Doctors don’t set prices unless it’s something like cosmetic surgery. They take what is offered by medicare and the insurance companies. Reimbursement is often more difficult from private insurers as well, driving up the cost of healthcare as nurses are forced to wait on the phone “on hold” waiting to talk to the insurance co and seemingly endless “prior authorization” paperwork the ins co’s require.

I would agree that people would be more price sensitive if they paid more for what they got but that is, by definition, a reduction in benefits. You don’t need to go “private” to do that so I still don’t see the benefit of privatizing medicare.

While I agree that those who aren’t destitute should pay more, that’s called “means testing” and the right has been adamently opposed to it.

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Finn – yes a lot of (”rightward”) deregulation has happened in several sectors. Banking being the most obvious and prominent.

However, the spending has only been on one trajectory through every single damn administration. Republican or Democrat. Up. And that has to stop.

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Gov’t drifting leftward?

Probably.

But we’re still so far to the right that it take the Hubble telescope to see the center.

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“Political bloodlust a burden for post-election GOP ”

Is the House of Representatives going to become a new vampire drama series?

Although I think its up for debate as to who is playing the role of the vampires and who is playing the vampire slayers…..

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Hope you miss your train USin UK!

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@RW

Just goes to show the hyperbole being employed by the Repubs. Pick any of those races that I listed where the Repubs will win.

News reports indicates that of the 50 states, 20 of those states have a minority population of 20% or more, therefore, the Dems are favored in those states.

The numbers are beginning to work against the Repubs.

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Democrats are funny…Now that they are gonna lose the midterms, its off to 2012…cant wait to hear the excuses after Obozo gets booted

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Finn – I know there’s been a lot of other deregulation. A lot of it has been very good. Freight rail and trucking are examples of good deregulation. Banking and oil drilling, not so much.

The spending has outpaced the economic growth ever since after WW2.

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/us_20th_century_chart.html

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A new poll conducted by Hays Research confirms what we already intuitively know. Alaska U.S. Senate candidate Joe Miller’s candidacy is in big trouble.

The percentage of Alaskans who feel either “somewhat negative” or “very negative” about Miller has skyrocketed in recent weeks to an astronomical 68 percent. Only 8 percent feel “somewhat negative” and the remainder, a jaw-dropping 60 percent, feel “very negative” about Miller as a candidate.

So long, Joe. We’ll see you on your new show on Fox News!

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peadawg, i think compromising Democrats is what we got from 1994-2006. otherwise there would be no financial industry deregulation and the last 3 years would not be so bad.

There would be no donut holes for seniors in pharmaceuticals and there would be no No Child Left Behind sinkholes dollars/years.

We might have missed an entire idiotic war in Iraq, too.

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Mr Right – USinUK is bit delusional. She thinks a drop in bond yields of 3% causes a 15% increase in health insurance premiums. One doesn’t have to be a math major to think something’s fishy with her logic.

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Regulated, but inter-state (cross-border) commerce in health insurance

Nonsense, jm, and if you knew anything about insurance, you wouldn’t be touting such a meaningless proposal. First of all, the only way to have “inter-state (cross-border) commerce in health insurance” is to have the federal government do the regulating. Is that what you Repubs reall want? Secondly, most major health insurance companies doing business in Georgia are also doing business in the other 49 states. Have you heard of some really, really cheap health insurance policies being offered in other states but not in Georgia? There are none.

It’s nonsense, and I sincerely hope for you sake and the sake of your family that you’re intelligent enough to know that, jm. Sounds good, smells awful.

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Good Bye Harry Reid, you reap what you sow!

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Anybody know how Alvin Green is doing in S C ?

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Whatever helps you better sleep at night.

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Republicans wouldn’t be so full of themselves if they would at least quit blowing smoke up their own arses. They’re truly expert contortionists.

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Mr Right 11:55 – I think he’s been indicted for misuse of funds, last I heard.

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Joe Miller is not a crook. And all politicians are liars (or 95% of them anyway)

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Yeah Republicans! (except for Deal / Cagle – vomit)

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If Obama works with the Republicans, then his chances do look better.

Unfortunately, in the democrat dictionary, compromise means “Republicans giving Obama his way” even though it is against ever conservative principle they have.

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jm

October 28th, 2010
11:35 am
Don’t Forget – a big part of Ryan’s proposal involves means testing. I’m all for it.

I support means testing too. Another area significant waste is end of life care when the patient hasn’t made their wishes known to the family and ends up getting a ton of expensive, futile and unwanted care that deprives a person a natural death. I have seen this many times. This is a touchy subject but the original bill had a provision allowing a consultation with a patient’s physician regarding options at the end of life. Unfortunately, Sarah Palin labeled this physician consultation a “death panel” for political gain (two sentence’s after telling reporters to “stop making stuff up”). The provision was eventually dropped after frightening millions of elderly people and the lack of such a provision will deny the elderly an important discussion every older person should have with a medical professional and cost taxpayers billions. For this reason, I think Sarah Palin is despicable.

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“So, we had two years of “Change You Can Believe In”

Still spending like crazy, unemployment still around 10%, debt still growing, premiums still rising. I guess I missed the change….

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Don’t Forget – no doubt, Palin is duuuuummmmmb

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Is it possible to get elected governor of this state without being a Fred Thompson clone with a syrupy drawl? Just wondering.

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jm
October 28th, 2010
12:01 pm

“Joe Miller is not a crook…”

He just used government resources for personal gain, and Alaskans aren’t standing for it.

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Jay, I just got around reading the piece on voter fraud hystria…here’s your proof

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NuLVvVb4oc&feature=ytn%3Amptnews

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“He just used government resources for personal gain, and Alaskans aren’t standing for it.”

To correct my own comment: Miller made dishonest use of government computers for “political purposes.” I cannot say what direct personal gain he derived.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/26/joe-miller-documents-i-lied_n_774472.html

Nathan Deal, on the other hand…

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“Four out of five Americans want compromise.”

It depends on what is meant by “compromise.”

The republicans are where they are almost exclusively due to their opposition to Obama (and Pelosi and Reid) and his policies. Why mess with a good thing? A significant majority of Americans–perhaps and unprecedented majority–are behind the GOP because of its opposition to Obama. In other words, AMERICA opposes Obama and his policies, not just the GOP. If Obama continues to be true to himself–and I hope he does–this will do him no good in 2012.

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They all say what the audience at the time wants to hear to get elected or re-elected. Ignore it.
And no, you can’t make predictions 2 years out. That would be like grabbing your raincoat for a weather forecase 2 weeks out.

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The republicans are where they are almost exclusively due to their opposition to Obama (and Pelosi and Reid) and his policies. Why mess with a good thing?

Because a party that puts itself ahead of country isn’t fit to lead or hold office.

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Big D, I encourage you to read Karl Rove’s very dispassionate opinon of Sarah Palin. again, you can hang your hopes in 2012 on “community organizer” soundbites, or you (and the GOP) can present cold hard facts about why your guy/gal would make a better POTUS. and as I said, if you offer that the GOP stands for ’small government’ lower deficits, etc., you’d better back it up, as opposed to Bush et al who peed on our backs and told us it was raining.

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USinUK – “the reason private insurance in going through the roof is because bond yields are at historic lows” – Actually, it is much more simple than that. Rates are going up and will continue to go up because of runaway greed on the part of the Medical Insurance Industry.

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Mick

At least you tried to inform!!

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“I’ll toss out that the bulk of the population is to the Right in what they say they want in government regarding size, scope, programs, etc, but they are decidedly Left in what they want that government to do for them.”

Well, you got the first half of that right. Good try.

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Funny to see the liberals on here ignoring the fact that some of the blue states that Obama won will be losing electoral votes after completion of the 2010 census.

Liberals = by-products of the American public school system.

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THE (BLACK LIST) OF USA:
PAGE (1) – September 13, 2010 / SUMMARY:
The following UNITED STATES (ADMINISTRATIVE AGENCIES) and or (EMPLOYEES), have Committed (VIOLATIONS) to THE UNITED STATES LAWS. To see full details go to: http://45usalegaldocuments.com
1): U. S. SUPREME COURT,CLERK, WILLIAM K. SUTER, Did
not SIGN both petitions denial orders of (petition for a writ of certiorari).
Date: February 20, 1996, CASE Nº 95-7271 (Luis Gallego v. Immigration and Naturalization Service) and March 3, 1997, CASE Nº 96-7322 (Luis Gallego v. Charles Wilson , et. al.).
Violation Committed: Rule 16.3 of the U.S. Supreme Court and ( FRAUD AND FALSE STATEMENTS), Under 18 USC , Section § 1001, Chapter 47 (a)(3).
2): U. S. SOLICITOR GENERAL, DREW S. DAYS. III (Washington D.C.).
Date: January 26, 1996, Case Nº 95-7271 Luis Gallego v. Immigration and Naturalization Service.
Violation Committed: Did not SIGN the (WAIVER) to file a response to the (petition for a writ of certiorari) before the U. S. Supreme Court, representing to the United States GOVERNMENT.
3): U. S. FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATIONS, FBI (Washington D.C.).
Date: 09/03/88 and 04/28/94, FBI´S RECORD NUMBER 992 994 DA4.
Violation Committed: Certified to the U.S. Immigration (False Charges), against the Immigrant (alien) Luis Gallego, committing, (FRAUD AND FALSE STATEMENTS), Under 18 USC , Section § 1001, Chapter 47 (a)(3).
4): U. S. DEA, (State of Rhode Island).
Date: 09/19/92, (U.S.INS File Nº: A 28-592-646).
Violation Committed:
Did not give the RIGHT PROTECTION and a NEW IDENTIFICATION to the (INFORMANT) from SPAIN, JESUS BRAGADO VALLEJO, who almost got killed by a (DRUG DEALER).
5): U.S. Immigration Judge, LEONARD I. SHAPIRO , Attorney General . RICHARD D. NEVILLE, District Director, CHARLES T. COBB (BOSTON – MASSACHUSETTS).
Date: January 18, 1994 (U.S.INS File Nº: A 28-592-646).
Violations Committed: (CONSPIRACY), made an Illegal Order of Deportation (IN ABSENTIA), without having any (evidences) or (proofs) against the Immigrant (alien) JESUS BRAGADO VALLEJO, to be deported to SPAIN.

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Hey Mick, I guess he didnt raise the debt by 2 trillion either?

CNSNews.com) – In the first 19 months of the Obama administration, the federal debt held by the public increased by $2.5260 trillion, which is more than the cumulative total of the national debt held by the public that was amassed by all U.S. presidents from George Washington through Ronald Reagan.

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JB needs to take off his rose colored glasses…as long as BO is president, Dems have small chance of winning any election. America is on destination cruise control. First, get the Dems out of control of both houses, Next, get Dem our of the white house. Can’t wait to see your first post on Wednesday after the landslide loss for the Dems.

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And If he lets the Bush tax cuts expire, it will be the largest tax increase in American history

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“will be losing electoral votes after completion of the 2010 census. ”

electoral votes are not relevent to the mid-term elections

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Good riddance to the bush tax cuts…all you people keep moaning and groaning about the deficit, then we all need to buck up and pay. Where were you all when the repubs were spending like no tomorrow? Besides your ignorance of the facts about what obama has contributed to the deficit is mind boggling. Once again read this and if you can refute it then show me the numbers…
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/barack_obama/index.html?story=/opinion/feature/2010/10/27/gene_lyons_believe_the_facts

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“electoral votes are not relevent to the mid-term elections”

Oops! Still thinking of Jay’s previous blog!

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Ivan, right on…

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Obama will be one-and-done. A black Jimmy Carter.

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“Four out of five Americans want compromise. The Republicans don’t dare even entertain compromise.”

Only in liberal land. Obama said he’d bring “the parties together.” He and Team Pelosi have done everything to divide Washington more than it ever has in history. What was it Obama said the other day? Oh yeah – Republicans can “ride in the back [of the bus].”

Funny how the only time liberal Democrats are concerned about “compromise” is when they’re out of power, isn’t it? Was there “compromise” in ramming through a waste of nearly a trillion dollars in a stimulus bill (aka porkulus bill) that was supposed to keep unemployment from going above 8%? Was there “compromise” when Team Pelosi and Team Reid rammed through Obamacare WITHOUT Republican input – and in Pelosi’s own words HAD TO BE PASSED – before Americans even knew what was in it? Was there “compromise” in taking over GM and turning over ownership power to the unions (and robbing investor controller-ship)?

But we digress here, don’t we. Team Obama said he’d put a boot on the neck of Big Oil (BP). And those Paul idiots doing that to the young Moveon.Org (movebackwards.org is more like it) protester should be in jail for assault. Yep.

But anyway back to compromise – I hear there’s going to be a lot of sqealing going on during the next five days. Joy Behar calling Sharron Angle a b!tch and telling her to go to hell is just the canary in a coal mine on what’s to come. I can’t imagine the uproar if Hannity had said that about a Democrat. I can’t even imagine.

Liberals and liberalism in general is becoming unglued. Oh we’re in for a fun and rough ride to 2012. Sure, the Republicans may have to endure another four years of The Teleprompter In Chief, but so long as there is a Constitutional check and balance of power, that’s fine.

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Don’t Forget 12:22 – I’ll just say she’s not my kind of conservative… how’ that?

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Mick at 12:58,

Republicans are not interested in talking about the truth.

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Yes time will tell because the President is currently running against EVERY Republican politician in the state of Georgia.

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“The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows ”

By my calculations, there’s 30% missing. What did THEY choose?

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Well, if us winning Congress now is going to let Obama win in 2012, I’d as soon loose Congress now so we can win the White House two years from now. I’m getting mighty tired of telling outsiders I’m from Canada or Germany or anyplace but the U.S. of A. It ain’t easy for a redneck to admit he’s got one of Those People as President of his country. O the shame!

Have a good p.m. everybody.

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Doggone/GA – the 30% likely are supporting Ron Paul, the only person who has been screaming about the economy, the Federal Reserve, the illegal wars, the failing dollar, and every other problem since the 70’s. When the end comes, he will be on record as having been right about everything and he will be elected president.

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I think Jay is exactly right. Obama’s odds in 2012 have definitely improved. Before next week’s election, I’d say his odds against getting re-elected were about 500-1. Post-election, I’d say they are more likely on the order of 400-1.

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Ok,if the Republicans gain control and they vote against EVERYTHING to be devious and there is gridlock and NOTHING gets accomplished then it seems more of a personal attack than whom they represent want or I could be wrong maybe whom they represent don’t want anything to get accomplished. So we are stagnat for 2-4 years? WOW!!!! Ignorance is at an all time high! Ok, so I guess if they gridlock everything, my taxes won’t go up, ummmm I won’t have to worry about any new legislation that will effect me for 2-5 years. Ok, gridlock might not be so bad after all.

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“Overall, 44% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the president’s performance. Fifty-five percent (55%) disapprove.”

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

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Mickey Mouse could challenge obama

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“Mickey Mouse could challenge obama”

Mick – looks like that is the answer to who is COMPETENT to run for the Republican nomination!

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I’ll take those odds, Harry. I’d love to make a welcher or pauper out of Harry Callahan.

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Argh!

October 28th, 2010
1:27 pm

“I’ll take those odds, Harry. I’d love to make a welcher or pauper out of Harry Callahan.”

When Nov 2012 comes around, I’ll be sure and remind you and Jay that we had this discussion.

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sfd, thats the best you got is that he is higher than Reagan at this point…I forgot we were back in the 80’s

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Jay or any Democrat…if it were switched, would you want Democrats to compromise w/ a Republican President if it meant going back on principles they were elected on? Answer honestly.

I’m not a Democrat, but an Independent and considering most of this country are Independents, they would be wise to compromise.

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Great comeback Doggone

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Peadwg – for you 11:36 question the answer is a resounding YES. I expect the people in government to govern which by definition means to compromise. Hopefully each side was able to put the best of their ideas into whatever the legislation was.

Governing isn’t a one side takes all. It is all about compromise which Reagan understood and did all the time. He got what he wanted and the Dems got what they wanted. It works. I think it needs to be revisited in today’s Congress.

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Bosch, the “tools” as you call them are confident they can provide their own jobs, health care, and retirement savings, all without aid of government. Can you say the same?

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“Because a party that puts itself ahead of country isn’t fit to lead or hold office.”

Exactly–and this is where the Dems found themselves. AGAIN: The GOP is having success because it is doing what a significant majority of Americans want it to do: oppose Obama and his liberal agenda and provide sound alternatives.

This isn’t complicated. The Dems are facing a tidal wave ONLY because they went in a direction the country did not want them to go!

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Poll: Most Want Obama Fired In 2012

http://politics.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2010/10/27/poll-most-want-obama-fired-in-2012

‘Nuff said.

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this article is pointless cause nobody knows whats gonna happen in 2 years

Well that sure blows a gaping hole in the Republican’s basis for intervening in other countries. I think they called it preemption. Then, there’s that evangelical thingie about rapture. And of course we cannot forget about those yet to be conceived ones and their right to life just as soon as a couple thinks about doin’ it. If they fail then they just aborted thousands of little ones that were swimmin’ around lookin’ to make somethin’ of themselves.

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Bosch, the “tools” as you call them are confident they can provide their own jobs, health care, and retirement savings, all without aid of government. Can you say the same?

As they whine about Obama not fixing their lack of employment.

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Taxpayer,

And warning the government to stay out of their Medicare.

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harry

The reason mccain lost was because he was too old and picked a dingbat for veep – he’d lose that match every time.

mark t

You obviously can’t handle the truth or facts, so I suggest a trip to disneyland to support your candidate..

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Who will be the GOP ticket for President and VP. Palin actually “thinks” she can be President, a person who quit her job as Governor during her term. Is this the best our country can do?

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What you “quote” is a Fox News headline over a story in which Obama actually says that “the American people are going to be looking to them to offer serious proposals and work with me in a serious way.”

I don’t know the point at which this discussion began, but I’m here to say it’s not so much what he says now, it’s what he’s said in the past.

I’ve always thought the man talked/talks too much. It’s his previous words and behavior that’s left the majority of Americans skeptical as to his “admirable” intentions.

Let’s look at Obama’s bi-partisan summit on healthcare.

John McCain: Thank you, Mr. President and I understand the four categories. But there is a big category that the people in my state and across this country are deeply concerned about. And that’s not just the product that we are examining today, the 2,400 pages, but the process we’ve gone through to reach that. [snip]

Now granted, McCain (re-elected by the way) got a bit wordy, but what politician doesn’t when given the opportunity. To continue:

OBAMA: Let me just make this point, John, because we are not campaigning anymore.

McCAIN: I’m reminded of that every day.

OBAMA: So we can spend the remainder of the time with our respective talking points going back and forth, we were supposed to be talking about insurance reform. Obviously I’m sure that Harry Reid and Chris Dodd and others who went through an exhaustive process through both the House and the Senate with the most hearings, the most debates on the floor, the longest markup in 22 years on each of these bills, will have a response for you. My concern is, if we do that, we are essentially back on Fox News and MSNBC on the split screen. My hope would be is that we can just focus on the issues about how we get a bill done.

They got it done exactly as they intended. Obama’s little summit was all for show.

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Bosch, Taxpayer…can you find the post where I said I was a fan of Medicare? Thanks in advance.

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Mick, I cant understand how someone can be so clueless…I given you facts about him raising the debt, I’ve given you facts aboutn his approval rating yet you still shoot off at the mouth…unbelievable

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WOW, again you people just wont accept the facts…Go look it up Bosch!

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“we need to punish our enemies”….The newest wingnut poutrage. Can anybody post the actual interview in context?

Allow me to help you Bosch. Dunno what’s so difficult for you liberals and a simple Google. But anyway, here’s a non-Faux News link just for you:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2010/10/not-presidential-ingraham-blasts-obama-for-enemies-comment.html

“If Latinos sit out the election instead of saying, ‘We’re going to punish our enemies and we’re going to reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us,’ if they don’t see that kind of upsurge in voting in this election, then I think it’s going to be harder.”

Maybe liberals believe this is a lie too. Who knows.

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Let me take the word summit and expound on what I think it means to Obama.

With his election he’s King of the mountain and anyone who isn’t is beneath him.

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Bosch – “Funny thing is the wingnuts think they’ll see the change on November 3rd. What tools.”

Glad to see you can’t refute his claim.

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So bond yields drop a few points….and insurance companies raise premiums by 24%.

Makes sense to me……if I didn’t understand basic mathematics.

Gee–could there be another cost driver? Regulation? Medical inflation? Government mandates to increase services/coverage?

Yep.

Mark Levin @ 6PM.

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And Bosch, there’s a link in that link posted to the LA Times and the entire transcript. Please let me know if you need help finding that too.

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“Well that sure blows a gaping hole in the Republican’s basis for intervening in other countries. I think they called it preemption. Then, there’s that evangelical thingie about rapture. And of course we cannot forget about those yet to be conceived ones and their right to life just as soon as a couple thinks about doin’ it. If they fail then they just aborted thousands of little ones that were swimmin’ around lookin’ to make somethin’ of themselves.”

Can this guy Taxpayer ever make sense? Geez.

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Only congress cans pass tax laws, the president can sign or veto. I have come to the conclusion the GOP lives and sells fear only, they have no credibility at all, and their flock are scared people.

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Gingrich vs Obama = Obama wins
Palin vs Obama = Obama wins
Huckabee vs Obama = Obama wins
Rhomney vs Obama = Toss Up, but Tea Party faithful “ain’t goin’ to support no mormon” = Obama wins
???? vs Obama = Obama wins

I think Bookman may correct unless the GOP begins now with some “great figure” that they can begin pushing, oh yeah that was suppose to be Bobby “deer the headlights” Jindal = Obama wins.

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Mick, I dont get on here too much, so I know you dont know where I stand on everything, but I am not a Bush apoligizer, but quit living in the past, Obama made promises during the campaign that he has not and will not keep, His policies are hurting not helping, he had his chance and blew it

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Now Really – “Those are the maricles I want to see the good old GOP perform and I don’t want any excuses or blaming of the democrats.”

Typical Left-nut rehetoric. We’ll screw it up, y’all fix it. And if you don’t fix it, you’re all a bunch of good-for-nothing-liars. Nice.

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Wingnuts,

And y’all are poutraged over this?

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2010/10/transcript-of-president-barack-obama-with-univision.html

Good Lord, the things you chose to fixate on.

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Ah pooh! jay showed up.

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Jefferson

October 28th, 2010
1:55 pm

“Only congress cans pass tax laws, the president can sign or veto. I have come to the conclusion the GOP lives and sells fear only, they have no credibility at all, and their flock are scared people.”

…and, curiously, they aren’t terrified of big, bad, evil corporations like you are, either…

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President Obama will get relected, the Rep have no one to beat him, please run the Air head Sara, who have not had a job in 2 years.
If I am Obama why would I want to run? His approval rating over seas is 95%, why continue to fight a bunch of Anti Americans? who have no respect for the office of the President. Countries around the world see what a bunch of bigots, hypocrites we have in this country. Most of these idiots never wanted to work with the Obama from day one, they are to busy listing to high school drop out Rush L, 3 times college drop out Sean Hannity, telling them the President is a Socialist, most of these trailor tea party have no clue what that means.

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USMC57,

I read through the whole transcript — thanks for posting that. I was actually have trouble finding it. But really, if you read the entire interview — again, I’m not seeing the reason for the uproar.

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“Please remember to debate and discuss the issues and political figures. This is not a forum for personal attacks.”

Jay, I hope you are talking only to the perpetrators and not the victims. Because as we learned yesterday, the victims are always and absolutley faultless.

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I love my T-bag*ing “Conservatives.” What in God’s name makes you think that all of our problems will go away by voting in as many Repubs as possible. This is politics, Obama did the same to his base during his campaign a couple of years ago and it worked. Obama’s numbers have dropped drastically since then. Why do you think that is? His base and independents feel that he has not done enough. They feel used and betrayed, this will hurt him in the mid-terms because they will not show up to support his party this time around.

So right now we have a bunch of tough guy Repubs claiming they will do everything to STOP THE OBAMA AGENDA. Repeal the HC bill, Permanent Bush tax cuts, etc. And you know what, I can guarantee you that they will do absolutely nothing that is productive to the average American citizen. You (Right wingers) will be p’ed off at the Repubs, Obama will rally his base solely on the failures of the Republicans, all of which will lead to Obama for 4 more years. MARK IT DOWN!!!

The Tea Party is a joke. All of their candidates are running as Republicans, if that doesn’t tell you anything, well then you just will never get it. Your message is very clear; Our thiefs are better than your thiefs.

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Bosch

October 28th, 2010
2:00 pm

“Or Harry, maybe just maybe, Bosch chooses to ignore you.”

You better be bringing your “A” game to debate Harry, so for people like Bosch, ignoring is the best strategy.

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Real American, you need to go to a REAL school and get an education on how proper grammar

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Viva GwinneXico,

You may tell yourself that his base fell because he did not do enough. But it’s not the far left that have abandoned him to join conservatives. It’s the liberal conservatives that left realizing this was nothing but a full-scale launch of socialism.

Your logic is flawed. Were there an even more liberal group taking your votes, you might have had a point. But there isn’t. And you don’t.

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Jay, what real efforts has the President made to compromise? That’s a two-way street, not just something that one party has to do…..quotes from the last week (by the President, no less), “They got to sit at the back of the bus”; “punish our enemies by going to vote”……..Compromise, huh????

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Viva – “Obama’s numbers have dropped drastically since then. Why do you think that is? ”

Um, because his base voted for a fraud and they have finally realized that.

“You (Right wingers) will be p’ed off at the Repubs”

Simply stopping this out of control freight train won’t “p” me off at all.

“all of which will lead to Obama for 4 more years.”

Well, we’ll see. But I know Jay wants another term (as does Boortz, Hannity, and Rush) because it makes his job easy.

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Here’s what will be interesting.

* The dems took control of congress in January 2007 but a large number of their faithful are saying many problems (economy, deficit spending, national debt) were because of W.
* Many dems claim they “haven’t had time” to correct the problem. Four years just wasn’t enough. Of course, the national debt went up by $5 trillion since Pelosi took over and said no more deficit spending.
* If the reps take control of the house (I don’t think they will win the senate), will the loud barking libs be “patient” with them as they attempt to get things sorted out or will they demand results in just two years? You know, if the problems mentioned above are still around then the libs will say it’s all the reps fault.

Remember, many libs feel four years wasn’t enough for them to fix things, but I’m confident they will be unforgiving of the reps if they don’t get the economy, deficit spending and national debt under control in just two years.

Pretty much politics as usual.

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Yes I did, Do some acutually research on the debt instead of an opinion piece

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“Nice 3 trillion he’s blown through in 20 months.”

How much of that is the wars being put back on the books?

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Obama will be gone in 2012, and he will go down as the worst President ever.

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Why is it that republicans always have to compromise? We have principles just like the democrats do, but you never hear talk of dems compromising. If the republicans win the house and senate, they will do so because the American people have asked them to go to Washington and fix the problems. The dems have gotten us deeper in a hole, why should the republicans jump in there with them? The dems screwed up, and now we are coming to fix it.

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The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….

October 28th, 2010
2:09 pm

EXACTLY HOW LONG HAS OBAMA BEEN GIVEN?

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And, if memory serves me correctly, it was Obama who said, ‘We won’. Doesn’t sound like the dems were willing to compromise.

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Mick, that article was written by Gene Lyons, A Liberal Political columnist…nice try

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mark t

OK – then refute it. You can’t, those are the facts but that doesn’t interest you because you can’t stand this president and it is very convenient to have this person to vent all your anger and blame toward.
No matter who followed bush, the challenges were daunting.

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Bosch –

Here’s a little refresher for ya. From the WSJ:

“Mr. Obama’s major contribution to deficits has been a record spending spree. In 2007, before the recession, federal expenditures reached $2.73 trillion. By 2009 expenditures had climbed to $3.52 trillion. In 2009 alone, overall federal spending rose 18%, or $536 billion. Throw in a $65 billion reduction in debt service costs due to low interest rates, and the overall spending increase was 22%.

In one year.”

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carlosgvv ….I dont see that happening. The American people have waken up and I think although they want the republicans to work with Obama, they do not and I reapeat DO NOT want the Republicans to cave in and turn Obamas way just to get things done. After all, why is it the republicans are going to have the gains? Because the Democrates are getting everything through and giving away our country to the illegal Mexicans, to the 3rd world countries, sending our tax money to fund overseas abortions and creating stimulus spending to fund their friends doing research. None of that stimulus money went to create jobs. If they did, well those are the most expensive and extensively paid jobs in the history of America.

I also see that Obama wont be able to hid in the White House after this either. He will have to answer to the American people as to why is is taking his veto power to all the bills that this congress sends past his desk. The americans ARE NOT STUPID like he wants to think we are. Obama WILL have to answer for his veto’s and the American people are only going to tolerate, (because we are to stupid to spend our own money) only so long. I see if the Congress repeals the healthcare bill and Obama uses veto power, well then Obama is going against the will of the American people who would put Republicans in office to stop things like this. If Obama fights congress on everything, I dont see him getting to the next election. I see him getting impeached as at that point he would be working AGAINST the will of the people and it would be more like hes holding AMERICANS HOSTAGE. This will not happen, not in America.

People, just vote wisely and let the business people we plan to put into office run the govenment like a business because thats what it needs. Remember, business creates jobs, government kills jobs each and every time.

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bosch

How many times have the facts about this deficit been put out there on this blog? Willing suspension of disbelief – I’ll say.

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Bosch, Taxpayer…can you find the post where I said I was a fan of Medicare? Thanks in advance

I can try but could you help me out a little and try to remember where you lost it originally.

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Nice Guy,

But how much of that is the wars being put back on the books?

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people have to realize that this is a NATIONAL election and extreme views in the south are not going win the presidency. Obama did carry FL but could have won without FL and Texas. I believe we are going to see another Bush I, Clinton, Perot race where a third party Tea Partier will split the vote.

My prediction, the GOP is going to treat Palin like the GA GOP treated Karen Handel. She is going to actually believe she can win as a third party canidiate and run as an independent/tea party. The GOP will nominate some “newbie”, their version of Obama and go with the whole “change” strategy but with a different word, my prediction is the congressman from VA who will be the House Whip if the GOP gains the house (his name escapes me as will many GOP voters who will flock to “you betcha”. The Dems and the traditional groups blacks, browns, gays, etc. will realize what a mistake it was not to turn out for the 2010 mid-term elections and vote in record numbers again and Obama wins a second term.

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Harry Calahan: “LIBERAL DEMOCRATS – Intellectual superior, yet incapable of mastering the simple concepts of working, saving, and investing”

Ah, so THAT’s what a ‘liberal’ is. Noted.

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As if the White House didn’t have enough to worry about, a recent Gallup poll piled on bad news for President Obama. At the beginning of 2010 the president enjoyed support from 69% of Hispanics. By May that number was down to 57%. Now just 55% of Hispanics support the president and his liberal agenda.

This president seems to think that all that matters to Latinos is immigration reform (about which he’s done nothing). He’s been taking their votes for granted.

There’s a bunch of conservative Latino organizations springing up throughout the country reminding Latinos that they’ve already fled from countries that promote left-wing ideology. They’re talking about social issues too.

Latinos, for the most part, are strong in their faith AND families.

Watched a couple of Latinos on O’Reilly last night. They were offended by Obama’s approach on Univision. He’s selling them short and they know it.

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Bosch –

From what I can tell, $709B.

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Real American,

I hate to break this to you but the jobs were lost AFTER the democrats took control of the house and senate. Employment peaked in November 2007.

Go to the BLS site and do a bit of research before you draw such an incorrect conclusion.

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Real American – “Klan tea Party group ”

And you call Zedd an idiot?

Laughable.

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mark t

Forget it – believe what you will but just remember this: everybody wants to go to heaven but nobody wants to die…

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Don’t worry expalining anything further, I get it. Just more nonsense.

You get more nonsense! Whatever excites you, Nice Guy.

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With all the blather on both sides, predicting what will happen in any election is just an exercise in public self-gratification, no matter what the polls say, no matter what interviews say, and especially no matter what bloggers say.

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Nice Guy,

I’m not good at math, I will not sit here and even pretend to be good at math — but if you take out the stimulus money and putting the war money back in the accounting — in regards to spending, how is this administration any different, than any of the others going back to oh, let’s say Nixon or Ford. ?????

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Real American…hummm..like real American cheese…no cheese at all (oil).
You really need to watch what you say or maybe how you say it…
you don’t come off as real bright….just saying.

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“LOL…Mr. Real American goes back to the “call them a racist” page of the playbook twice in a row!”

I know, it really is so very weak. Even some of the regulars on here, who, at times, make good points, use this “racist” garbage to try to enhance their arrogance. So tiring, so weak, and so old.

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Some critics continue to assert that President George W. Bush’s policies bear little responsibility for the deficits the nation faces over the coming decade — that, instead, the new policies of President Barack Obama and the 111th Congress are to blame. Most recently, a Heritage Foundation paper downplayed the role of Bush-era policies. Nevertheless, the fact remains: Together with the economic downturn, the Bush tax cuts and the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq explain virtually the entire deficit over the next ten years.

What was that about the deficit.

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I cringe when I hear the statement that Obama needs to move to the center. He’s already in the center. If he moves any more to the right he will lose in 2012.

If the GOP manages to win the house, the senate will still be where good bills go to die. That filibuster is a b*tch. And the veto is priceless.

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Have you notice how tough-talking Obama has been on the campaign trail these past few weeks? “Enemies”, “get in the back”, et al. Too bad he’s not equally tough on America’s REAL enemies.

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Mark,

Excuse? Or personal interpretation, opinion? Do you have a problem with someone whose is different than yours? I’m basing mine after reading the entire interview, but you seem totally fixated on that one phrase.

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The real bad news for the GOP is that they are going to actually have to do something or prove themselves to be worthless. Furthermore they are going to have to do it without raising taxes or increasing the national debt!!! They have set themselves up to fail!!

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The reason “certain individuals” are easily manipulated is because they fail to pick up on Democrat’s nuanced messages.

Took me awhile too. At first I was blind (deaf), but BOY HOWDY….do I see (hear) ‘em now.

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Tim P S…So… the Dems just did it…

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Bosch, you obviously dont understand the concept. Why would you refer to the opposing party as “enemies”.? .This just reinforces our argument that he is not willing to be bi-partisian

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“Democrats do not compromise and do not want to work issues out “across the party lines”.”

Contrary to the BS that’s been drilled into the empty heads of GOP supporters, the main reason dems and indies are upset with the dems is because they compromised TOO MUCH!!!

They gave away too much on healthcare. They gave away too much on wall srett reform. On and on and on. I still think the undecided voters will realize they cannot hold their nose and vote for a republican.

It ain’t over till the fat politician sings.

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mark t

Here’s another one for you: In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king….

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Is America a Democracy or a Republic…..who can answer this question?

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The reason “certain individuals” are easily manipulated is because they fail to pick up on Democrat’s nuanced messages.

Really.

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Granny Godzilla

October 28th, 2010
2:31 pm

“I have no doubt about Obama winning in 2012.

The TeaOP bench is empty.”

LOL…Granny is defintiely off her meds…

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Real American…..you are the reason racism still exists! Retard.

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Just Wondering

October 28th, 2010
1:43 pm
Who will be the GOP ticket for President and VP. Palin actually “thinks” she can be President, a person who quit her job as Governor during her term. Is this the best our country can do?

hey, if can elect a community organizer as President we can surely elect a former Governor who quit to travel the country. I hope we don’t but, we have done dummer things. Like 2008.

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Granny must not have gotten the memo…

CNN poll: 52% say Obama doesn’t deserve reelection in 2012
By Michael O’Brien – 02/16/10 02:35 PM ET

52 percent of Americans said President Barack Obama doesn’t deserve reelection in 2012, according to a new poll.

44 percent of all Americans said they would vote to reelect the president in two and a half years, less than the slight majority who said they would prefer to elect someone else.

Obama faces a 44-52 deficit among both all Americans and registered voters, according to a CNN/Opinion Research poll released Tuesday. Four percent had no opinion.

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mm 2:36 – delusional…. I’m sorry, there’s just no other way to respond to this. I hope this isn’t taken as an insult. But Indies are not going to the Republican party because Democrats have become too conservative. That’s nonsense….

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Nice Guy

October 28th, 2010
2:38 pm

**In 2009, BHO’s first year, BHO spent $3.5T**

OK, looks good now try to itemize how he spent 3.5 tillion….we’ll be waiting for your answer.

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Sid Farcas
October 28th, 2010
2:39 pm

Agreed. I just hope everyone has learned and accepted the fact that the POTUS is not a place for on-the-job-training.

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The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….

October 28th, 2010
2:23 pm

Oh Please, the Republicans have been campaigning to over throw congress since Obama became President. They didn’t even give him 6 months.

If I remeber, the first Tea Party Rally was back in :

(1) February 27, 2009 to protest the Troubled Assets Relief Program (TARP) bailout bill signed by President George W. Bush in October 2008 and the ARRA stimulus bill signed by President Barack Obama ten days prior to the protest[1]

(2) April 15, 2009 to coincide with the annual U.S. deadline for submitting tax returns, known as Tax Day;[2]

[3] July 4, 2009 to coincide with Independence Day

[4]September 12, 2009 to coincide with the anniversary of the day after the September 11 attacks

[5] November 5, 2009 in Washington D.C. to protest the impending Health insurance vote;

[6] and on March 14–21, 2010 in Washington, D.C. during the final week of debate on the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.[7]

Now you guys want to say it’s all about the Healthcare Bill, lowering taxes and creating JOBS.

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Mick – “OK, looks good now try to itemize how he spent 3.5 tillion….we’ll be waiting for your answer.”

I’m not going to do your homework simply because you’re too lazy to do it yourself.

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“Here’s a little refresher for ya. From the WSJ:”

Oh Lord, someone’s quoting the Wall Street Journal like it’s still a respectable newspaper.

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Jay, you’re so confident about Obama. You should be going long on Intrade. Or is that a conflict of interest?

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NowReally
October 28th, 2010
2:42 pm

“Oh Please, the Republicans have been campaigning to over throw congress since Obama became President. They didn’t even give him 6 months.”

6 months? Then stop complaining. The maniacal left didn’t even give W that much time. After all, he “stole” the 2000 election, right? You are “one of those” who believe that, right?

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The latest forecast by University of Virginia’s respected Larry Sabato is that the vast majority of Democratic losses in the House next Tuesday will be in the category of Blue Dog Democrats. I say great. If people in the House want to vote Republican, they shouldn’t be hiding behind a D after their names. More than six months ago I stated on this blog that I hoped every Blue Dog would be defeated. Looks like I’ll almost be getting my total wish. Among those losses will be Georgia’s own repugnant Blue Dog Jim Marshall.

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Abrazos
October 28th, 2010
2:44 pm

So you’d rather see something posted from the New York Times or Huffington Post?

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Nice Guy,

My point is that if you take out the stimulus money and him putting the war back on the books — he’s not really spent any more than any other POTUS.

Later folks!

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NowReally…in adition to your very erudite post about the Tea Party, I’d also like to remind the liberals here that, despite their accustaions that the Tea Party is blindly loyal to Republicans, the fact is that the Tea Party has also successfully gone after and defeated a wide variety of establishment, incumbent Republicans.

Those facts, however, are in conflict with the liberal talking points about the Tea Party as published by the DNC and disseminated by their willing accomplices in the mainstream media (i.e. Bookman, Tucker, etc) so the Dependocrats just keep merrily strolling along the path of ignorance.

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Hey Mick, Go look up all the pork spending stimulus bill and that shows you where a lot of it went

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Wow so this is where the party is at! And a liberal blog on top of that! The amount of Conservatives and others who are disgusted with Democrat rule is amazing.

“I love my T-bag*ing “Conservatives.” What in God’s name makes you think that all of our problems will go away by voting in as many Repubs as possible.”

Well for starters my D-bagging “Liberal” Republicans will restore some sort of government accountability, among other things. They Got fired in 2006 by the people, and will now be re-hired on a probationary period only. Methinks the beatdown in 2006 was the best thing that ever happened to the Conservative cause.

Oh, and just for you Liberals, this nation *is* center-Right. And President Obama ran as a Moderate. Oh, and Pelosi’s promise for a pay-as-you-go and ‘read my lips no new deficit spending’ Congress went where?

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The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….

October 28th, 2010
2:45 pm

NO, I don’t think he stole the election. I think the Supreme Court gave it too him. And once the decision was made, I moved own and accepted the fate of this country. Too bad, I was right.

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I guess Bosch had to go home and read “Investing For Dummies” like I recommended…

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stands for decibels
October 28th, 2010
2:47 pm

“I guess that’s why he had a 91% approval after 9/11. ”

Get your facts straight. That happened almost a full 8 months after he took office. It took a national tragedy to get the hounds to back off a little bit. I remember the maniacal left howling about how W “stole” the election. It continued right up to 9/11. Nice attempt to deflect, though.

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Truman, Ike and Clinton are good company.

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You people do understand there will have to be compromise to STOP your taxes from increasing right? The Bush tax cuts were passed through reconciliation and the 10 year window is about to end so Congress would have to agree to extend them. It will be interesting to see if this happens under either Pelosi or Boehner…to say nothing about the Senate.

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Jay, can you put your money where your mouth is? Or are you going to be in violation of some journalistic rule?

http://www.intrade.com/jsp/intrade/common/c_cd.jsp?conDetailID=639648&z=1288292836408

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Harry Callahan

gone off her meds?

how passe’.

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BW – NO COMPROMISE!!!!!!!!! Torch the country if we can’t run it!

Just kidding.

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mm – ah, so you’re going to go vote Republican eh? If you’re upset with Obama for being to conservative, mm, you are not an Indie…. nice try.

Unless you count commies as part of the “indie” group.

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“Is America a Democracy or a Republic…..who can answer this question?”

I can. The answer is “yes” – it is a Democratic Republic

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Real American

Add… 1.3million, and still counting , innocent Iraqis wiped off the face of the planet!!

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leg

Who won the popular vote, bush or gore? Here anything about 2nd amendment remedies after the bush selection? I wonder why not?

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Jay, we should probably cease this debate and move on. If people want to take sides on this debate, they can just put their money where their mouths are, just by going to intrade.com….. (sorry, I love this website)

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“So you keep trotting that line out there all the way up until he exits the White House”

That’s exactly right. Until his term or terms are done, his promises are only not kept YET.

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Mick

October 28th, 2010
2:51 pm

“medicare pres. drug (repub congress) 700 billion”

I was opposed to Bush’s prescription drug giveaway, as were many conservatives, if not most conservatives. It was just one more big spending outrage that led to the creation of the Tea Party, which, as I described above, has gone after big-spending Republicans as well as Democrats.

But here’s my question…why do liberals, who are so hell-bent on legislating free government health care for all, oppose free prescription drugs for the elderly? Could it be because they are programmed to blindly hate anything and everything related to Bush?

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mark t
410 billion omnibus bill, when was that signed? 950 billion healthcare bill – is that money already spent? What about the pot of gold he found at the end of the rainbow, does that count?

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NowReally

October 28th, 2010
2:56 pm

We shall see my liberal friend. All I know is that your team had the chance to do some good and look what it has gotten us. Higher unemplyment, tax increases on the way, a war that first you did not want , now it is a good thing, and a healthcare bill that we can not afford. Yeah, Hope & Change was great. And Bookman thinks he will get voted a second term.

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Jay
October 28th, 2010
2:54 pm

Nice of you to jump in, Jay. Please reread my posts. I said nothing about approval ratings. I was referring to the maniacal left who was hell bent on destroying W’s Presidency because it was either “stolen”, or it was “given to him by the Supreme Court”. That simple. Didn’t mean to rile you.

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Disgusted @ 2:46,

Great point. Blue dogs make up about 20% of the dems but will sustain about 40% of the losses. If those seats are gonna side with the GOP, better those seats have a republican in them. These clowns caused more harm in the last 2 years than the GOP did.

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The boy cried on the floor when he thought his pension was toast…

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jm

Unfortunately some people aren’t kidding….they are nihilists because no system be it Democratic or Republican has worked out for them. It is during these difficult times that they crawl from underneath their rocks and gain an audience.

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Harry Callahan

October 28th, 2010
2:47 pm

If they aren’t Republicans, why do they all have an (R) after their names on the ballot? If they are Tea Party and aren’t really Republicans; I would think they would refuse to have an (R) behind their name in any way, shape or form.

That’s like a single woman using the MRS designation; when in fact she’s not married to anyone.

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Lol, the dems have already thrown in the flag for this election, I love it. GONE 2012

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stands for decibels

October 28th, 2010
2:58 pm

“Leg, you really think that if there’d been a terrorist attack killing nearly 3000 people, eight months into Obama’s term, that there’s any way in hell he’d have 91% support among Americans imeediately afterward?

You TPers would be falling over yourselves trying to find novel and nasty ways to blame the attack on Obama. Don’t even bother denying it.”

Oh, you mean like Cynthia McKinney (D) (U.S. Congressman, GA) saying Bush knew the 9/11 attack was coming, but let it happen for poltical gain?

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Harry C. Whiteman: The truth hurts, Why do Obama have to answer to the media because he is asking for Latino, blacks vote? When he was at Ohio State, Boston College, I did not hear no one say he is trying to get white students vote”"”‘

Please white bigots, look up the word socialist before you accuse the President. Most of you bigots want state control, that why you call him that, well some Americans have seen how states have screwed up, (Civil Rights)(Bail out money) we dont want a person like Nathan Deal who voted against civil rights to control us, we have enough bigots here in state govenment.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA….I needed a good laugh today. Yeah, Jay, Obama worked real well with Republicans not even considering ANY of their ideas on Healthcare, Stimulus, Unemployement benefits…..

Get wishing upon that star Jay. No way Obama gets reelected

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Nice guy – nice try, you’ve got your head in the sand with those numbers.

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stands for decibels

October 28th, 2010
3:01 pm
the $950 billion dollar Healthcare

you do realize that’s spread over ten years, right?

Oh good, I feel better about spending only $95 billion a year. And it certainly will not go up higher. Here’s your sign.

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Jay

October 28th, 2010
3:01 pm

“Harry, as I recall, a lot of liberals and Democrats supported the concept, but a good number opposed the Bush approach because it was basically a giveaway of tax dollars to the highly influential pharmaceuticals industry. Time has proved that assessment correct.”

Jay, all that may be true, but my 89-yr-old grandmother gets her meds for free. All government programs are a giveaway of tax dollars to someone or another.

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jm,

Being a republican or democrat, you cannot speak for the mindset of an indie. Some lean right, some lean left, most just look at the candidate’s qualifications, not the R or D next to their name.

As for me, I supported Newt and his gang in 94. That backfired so bad, I have not voted for the GOP since.

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Stands – “I’m sure that’s including all the associated costs of the Excellent Eye-Rack Adventure, right?”

Um, yes, it does bubba.

Iraq: $687B
Afghan: $184B

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stands for decibels

October 28th, 2010
3:04 pm
Oh, you mean like Cynthia McKinney

And what was Ms. McKinney’s reward for such talk?

come on, Mastur-debator, try to think before hitting “submit.”

Her reward? She is still allowed to be free and spew her lies and hate. I’d say she came out pretty darn good.

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“nice try, you’ve got your head in the sand with those numbers.”

Once again, Mick, you just don’t want to beleive the truth, but rather make up numbers to support your position. Sigh.

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leg

C’mon man, you dodged my point, were the dems walking around strapping their guns and talking about violence because bush was selected? It was a bitter pill but we moved on and then 911. I still say there’s a good possibility that it would have been prevented if gore was pres.

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mm is a little unhinged….

“Great point. Blue dogs make up about 20% of the dems but will sustain about 40% of the losses. If those seats are gonna side with the GOP, better those seats have a republican in them. These clowns caused more harm in the last 2 years than the GOP did.”

mm wants to be in the minority, thinks moderate dems caused problems

“As for me, I supported Newt and his gang in 94. That backfired so bad, I have not voted for the GOP since.”

And voted for GOP in 94. mm is lost in the wilderness….

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If the Democrats want a sure bet to secure the POTUS through 2020 someone will first have to convince Obama to not seek a second term. Hillary would be a sure thing.

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Jay – “Why would I take 3-2 odds in Obama’s favor when Harry here is willing to give me 400 to one against?”

I guess jm doesn’t yet know that you are an Obama homer and that you think he will get re-elected. 400 to 1 could make you rich Jay, rich I tell ya.

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Jay

October 28th, 2010
3:06 pm
jm, as to intrade:

“Why would I take 3-2 odds in Obama’s favor when Harry here is willing to give me 400 to one against?

Right Harry? Your offer still good?”

Glad you guys can recognize sarcasm and/or hyperbole when you see it. NOT. But I’ll bet you any amount you care to bet straight-up.

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“I still say there’s a good possibility that it would have been prevented if gore was pres.”

Mick, you really are the gift that keeps on givin’ aren’t you.

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Harry – “But I’ll bet you any amount you care to bet straight-up.”

Does that mean 50-50 odds?

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“free arb”

As in free arbitrage, jm?

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