Obama odds in 2012 look better and better
U.S. Rep. John Boehner
John Boehner, who is likely to become the next speaker of the House, went on Sean Hannity’s radio show Wednesday to offer a preview of what to expect:
“This is not a time for compromise, and I can tell you that we will not compromise on our principles,” Boehner said….
As for Obama’s own agenda, Boehner promised, “We’re going to do everything – and I mean everything we can do – to kill it, stop it, slow it down, whatever we can.”
Meanwhile, according to a newly released Bloomberg poll:
Four out of five Americans want compromise. The Republicans don’t dare even entertain compromise. This is playing right to Obama’s strength. He will come across as calm, rational and reasonable. The Republicans will either come across as angry and aggressive, or they will deeply disappoint their own base.
Obama will also have history on his side. As National Journal points out, presidents who lose control of Congress in their first midterms tend to gain a political advantage:
“It’s occurred three times in the past 100 years, and in each case the minority party that took control watched the supposedly vanquished president win reelection just two years later. First, Harry Truman in 1948 (after losing 55 House and 13 Senate seats in 1946); second, Dwight Eisenhower in 1956 (after losing 18 House and two Senate seats in 1954, creating Democratic majorities that would last in the Senate until 1980 and in the House until 1994); and finally, Bill Clinton in 1996 (after losing 54 House and eight Senate seats in 1994).”
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Doggone/GA
October 28th, 2010
2:39 pm
“get an education on how proper grammar”
Pot?
Mark T
October 28th, 2010
2:39 pm
Granny must not have gotten the memo…
CNN poll: 52% say Obama doesn’t deserve reelection in 2012
By Michael O’Brien – 02/16/10 02:35 PM ET
52 percent of Americans said President Barack Obama doesn’t deserve reelection in 2012, according to a new poll.
44 percent of all Americans said they would vote to reelect the president in two and a half years, less than the slight majority who said they would prefer to elect someone else.
Obama faces a 44-52 deficit among both all Americans and registered voters, according to a CNN/Opinion Research poll released Tuesday. Four percent had no opinion.
White man
October 28th, 2010
2:40 pm
Real American….I have a question for ya. Over the generations there has been one way to drastically improve a struggling economy. Do you know what that method is?
jm
October 28th, 2010
2:40 pm
mm 2:36 – delusional…. I’m sorry, there’s just no other way to respond to this. I hope this isn’t taken as an insult. But Indies are not going to the Republican party because Democrats have become too conservative. That’s nonsense….
Sid Farcas
October 28th, 2010
2:41 pm
Harry Callahan
October 28th, 2010
2:38 pm
Granny Godzilla
October 28th, 2010
2:31 pm
“I have no doubt about Obama winning in 2012.
The TeaOP bench is empty.”
LOL…Granny is defintiely off her meds…
Granny is on meds. She takes on blue liberal pill a day. It makes her ignorant and dependent on government and crave government cheese.
Mick
October 28th, 2010
2:41 pm
Nice Guy
October 28th, 2010
2:38 pm
**In 2009, BHO’s first year, BHO spent $3.5T**
OK, looks good now try to itemize how he spent 3.5 tillion….we’ll be waiting for your answer.
Nice Guy
October 28th, 2010
2:41 pm
“You can’t, in all honesty, say he hasn’t kept his promises.”
Great excuse, Doggone. So you keep trotting that line out there all the way up until he exits the White House.
Give me a break.
The Leg Lamp is a "major award"....
October 28th, 2010
2:41 pm
Sid Farcas
October 28th, 2010
2:39 pm
Agreed. I just hope everyone has learned and accepted the fact that the POTUS is not a place for on-the-job-training.
Harry Callahan
October 28th, 2010
2:42 pm
Real American
October 28th, 2010
2:37 pm
“The things you are saying about the President did not surprise the average black person.
The only way the President can get your attention if he was playing football, basketball, a smart African American male has always been a threat to your world.”
Wow…Real American exposes his complete intellectual bankruptcy by playing the race card a THIRD time in one brief conversation…
NowReally
October 28th, 2010
2:42 pm
The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….
October 28th, 2010
2:23 pm
Oh Please, the Republicans have been campaigning to over throw congress since Obama became President. They didn’t even give him 6 months.
If I remeber, the first Tea Party Rally was back in :
(1) February 27, 2009 to protest the Troubled Assets Relief Program (TARP) bailout bill signed by President George W. Bush in October 2008 and the ARRA stimulus bill signed by President Barack Obama ten days prior to the protest[1]
(2) April 15, 2009 to coincide with the annual U.S. deadline for submitting tax returns, known as Tax Day;[2]
[3] July 4, 2009 to coincide with Independence Day
[4]September 12, 2009 to coincide with the anniversary of the day after the September 11 attacks
[5] November 5, 2009 in Washington D.C. to protest the impending Health insurance vote;
[6] and on March 14–21, 2010 in Washington, D.C. during the final week of debate on the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.[7]
Now you guys want to say it’s all about the Healthcare Bill, lowering taxes and creating JOBS.
Bosch
October 28th, 2010
2:43 pm
Mark T.,
“Bosch, you obviously dont understand the concept. Why would you refer to the opposing party as “enemies”.? .This just reinforces our argument that he is not willing to be bi-partisian”
But he didn’t actually come out and say the Republicans are the enemies.
Well, here’s what we’re gonna do. We’re gonna see how well we do in this election and I think a lot of it is gonna depend on whether we still have some support not only from Democrats, but also Republicans, but they’re gonna be paying attention to this election. And if Latinos sit out the election instead of saying, we’re gonna punish our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us, if they don’t see that kind of upsurge in voting in this election, then I think it’s gonna be harder and that’s why I think it’s so important that people focus on voting on November 2.
To me, he is talking about what kind of support the Latinos have after the elections and for them to not sit out in an attempt to punish those who the Latinos perceive as the enemy — not him personally.
Nice Guy
October 28th, 2010
2:43 pm
Mick – “OK, looks good now try to itemize how he spent 3.5 tillion….we’ll be waiting for your answer.”
I’m not going to do your homework simply because you’re too lazy to do it yourself.
Harry Callahan
October 28th, 2010
2:43 pm
And by the way, Real American, smart African American males are a threat to no one, but Barack Obama doesn’t qualify as smart, and he’s only 50% African…
Abrazos
October 28th, 2010
2:44 pm
“Here’s a little refresher for ya. From the WSJ:”
Oh Lord, someone’s quoting the Wall Street Journal like it’s still a respectable newspaper.
Bosch
October 28th, 2010
2:44 pm
Nice Guy @ 2:38,
But how much of those expenditures was the stimulus and the war being put back on the books?
jm
October 28th, 2010
2:45 pm
Jay, you’re so confident about Obama. You should be going long on Intrade. Or is that a conflict of interest?
Bosch
October 28th, 2010
2:45 pm
Oops! my 2:42 — that last paragraph was me, not the interview transcript — as if you couldn’t tell.
The Leg Lamp is a "major award"....
October 28th, 2010
2:45 pm
NowReally
October 28th, 2010
2:42 pm
“Oh Please, the Republicans have been campaigning to over throw congress since Obama became President. They didn’t even give him 6 months.”
6 months? Then stop complaining. The maniacal left didn’t even give W that much time. After all, he “stole” the 2000 election, right? You are “one of those” who believe that, right?
Mark T
October 28th, 2010
2:46 pm
If that helps you sleep at night Bosch by all means believe it
Disgusted
October 28th, 2010
2:46 pm
The latest forecast by University of Virginia’s respected Larry Sabato is that the vast majority of Democratic losses in the House next Tuesday will be in the category of Blue Dog Democrats. I say great. If people in the House want to vote Republican, they shouldn’t be hiding behind a D after their names. More than six months ago I stated on this blog that I hoped every Blue Dog would be defeated. Looks like I’ll almost be getting my total wish. Among those losses will be Georgia’s own repugnant Blue Dog Jim Marshall.
jm
October 28th, 2010
2:46 pm
Odds makers have Obama at 58.5% chance of winning…..
The Leg Lamp is a "major award"....
October 28th, 2010
2:46 pm
Abrazos
October 28th, 2010
2:44 pm
So you’d rather see something posted from the New York Times or Huffington Post?
Nice Guy
October 28th, 2010
2:46 pm
Bosch @ 2:43-
He is clearly talking about Republicans as enemies, clearly. If even for a second, BHO thought that Latinos would vote for Repubs in this election, he would have never brought it up.
I don’t know how much clearer it can be.
Bosch
October 28th, 2010
2:47 pm
Nice Guy,
My point is that if you take out the stimulus money and him putting the war back on the books — he’s not really spent any more than any other POTUS.
Later folks!
stands for decibels
October 28th, 2010
2:47 pm
The maniacal left didn’t even give W that much time.
I guess that’s why he had a 91% approval after 9/11.
the manaical left had hacked poor Chimpy to bits.
Harry Callahan
October 28th, 2010
2:47 pm
NowReally…in adition to your very erudite post about the Tea Party, I’d also like to remind the liberals here that, despite their accustaions that the Tea Party is blindly loyal to Republicans, the fact is that the Tea Party has also successfully gone after and defeated a wide variety of establishment, incumbent Republicans.
Those facts, however, are in conflict with the liberal talking points about the Tea Party as published by the DNC and disseminated by their willing accomplices in the mainstream media (i.e. Bookman, Tucker, etc) so the Dependocrats just keep merrily strolling along the path of ignorance.
Sid Farcas
October 28th, 2010
2:47 pm
NowReally
October 28th, 2010
2:42 pm
The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….
October 28th, 2010
2:23 pm
Oh Please, the Republicans have been campaigning to over throw congress since Obama became President. They didn’t even give him 6 months.
Democrats never make plans to take back congress when they are not in control. Come on, are you serious or a little kid? Grow up and try to remember how they treated Bush starting in 2000-2008. Paybacks suck!
Mark T
October 28th, 2010
2:47 pm
Hey Mick, Go look up all the pork spending stimulus bill and that shows you where a lot of it went
The Leg Lamp is a "major award"....
October 28th, 2010
2:48 pm
Disgusted
October 28th, 2010
2:46 pm
Riiiiight. You’re probably “one of those” who scoffed at the Republicans when they made similar statements about RINOs. Well if that makes you feel better……..
Red Force
October 28th, 2010
2:48 pm
Wow so this is where the party is at! And a liberal blog on top of that! The amount of Conservatives and others who are disgusted with Democrat rule is amazing.
“I love my T-bag*ing “Conservatives.” What in God’s name makes you think that all of our problems will go away by voting in as many Repubs as possible.”
Well for starters my D-bagging “Liberal” Republicans will restore some sort of government accountability, among other things. They Got fired in 2006 by the people, and will now be re-hired on a probationary period only. Methinks the beatdown in 2006 was the best thing that ever happened to the Conservative cause.
Oh, and just for you Liberals, this nation *is* center-Right. And President Obama ran as a Moderate. Oh, and Pelosi’s promise for a pay-as-you-go and ‘read my lips no new deficit spending’ Congress went where?
Bosch
October 28th, 2010
2:48 pm
Nice Guy @ 2:46 —
I’ll just have to agree to disagree. I simply don’t see it that way, but again, you are a conservative, you don’t like the guy, you are biased as am I — we see it how we see it — and the Latinos are the ones who see it how they want.
Now, I really gotta go to meet with some folks.
NowReally
October 28th, 2010
2:49 pm
The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….
October 28th, 2010
2:45 pm
NO, I don’t think he stole the election. I think the Supreme Court gave it too him. And once the decision was made, I moved own and accepted the fate of this country. Too bad, I was right.
stands for decibels
October 28th, 2010
2:49 pm
Odds makers have Obama at 58.5% chance of winning…
Even without seeing a cite, that’s not real surprising to me.
I’m sure if pollsters asked voters if they’d prefered Ronald Reagan or “someone else” in, say, Oct. 1982, someone else woulda won in a walk.
But, as they say in baseball–”that’s why we play the games.”
Harry Callahan
October 28th, 2010
2:49 pm
I guess Bosch had to go home and read “Investing For Dummies” like I recommended…
jm
October 28th, 2010
2:50 pm
Disgusted 2:46 – I don’t think you understand how things work in Washington. You have the same mindset some of the far right do: “a pure party is better than a compromised majority”.
Well, you’re going to get to find out what being in the minority again is like. It’s far better to be in the Majority, even if you have moderate members. “Liberal litmus test” anyone?
Disgusted – you’re going to get a phyric victory.
The Leg Lamp is a "major award"....
October 28th, 2010
2:50 pm
stands for decibels
October 28th, 2010
2:47 pm
“I guess that’s why he had a 91% approval after 9/11. ”
Get your facts straight. That happened almost a full 8 months after he took office. It took a national tragedy to get the hounds to back off a little bit. I remember the maniacal left howling about how W “stole” the election. It continued right up to 9/11. Nice attempt to deflect, though.
Mick
October 28th, 2010
2:51 pm
nice guy
**I’m not going to do your homework simply because you’re too lazy to do it yourself**
OK, I’ll do it for you-
Bush wars (off the books) 1.2 trillion
TARP signed by bush 500 billion
medicare pres. drug (repub congress) 700 billion
Total 2.4 trillion
Obama stimulus 780 billion
Please refute those facts once and for all-
Intown
October 28th, 2010
2:51 pm
Truman, Ike and Clinton are good company.
jm
October 28th, 2010
2:51 pm
sfd – I posted it 30 or so minutes ago
http://www.intrade.com/jsp/intrade/common/c_cd.jsp?conDetailID=639648&z=1288292836408
BW
October 28th, 2010
2:52 pm
You people do understand there will have to be compromise to STOP your taxes from increasing right? The Bush tax cuts were passed through reconciliation and the 10 year window is about to end so Congress would have to agree to extend them. It will be interesting to see if this happens under either Pelosi or Boehner…to say nothing about the Senate.
Nice Guy
October 28th, 2010
2:52 pm
Bosch – “But how much of those expenditures was the stimulus and the war being put back on the books?”
I’ve given you the Iraq number and we both know that, now, the Iraq war cost is “close” to nothing. Obama owns the simulus, free and clear. Why are you trying to split hairs?
jm
October 28th, 2010
2:53 pm
Jay, can you put your money where your mouth is? Or are you going to be in violation of some journalistic rule?
http://www.intrade.com/jsp/intrade/common/c_cd.jsp?conDetailID=639648&z=1288292836408
mm
October 28th, 2010
2:53 pm
jm,
“But Indies are not going to the Republican party because Democrats have become too conservative. That’s nonsense….”
I’m an indie and that’s why I’m upset with him. I’m sure I’m not alone. A public option was supported by a majority of americans. Many were upset that it was taken off the table before negotiations began. Many were upset that the wall strett reform did not go far enough.
**In 2009, BHO’s first year, BHO spent $3.5T**
Obama put the 2 wars on the books, something GWB conveniently hid.
Granny Godzilla
October 28th, 2010
2:54 pm
Harry Callahan
gone off her meds?
how passe’.
@@
October 28th, 2010
2:54 pm
Taxpayer:
Really.
Yes, really!
I resisted the truth for as long as I could, then decided to implement a little test.
Listened to ‘em without looking at ‘em.
Oh man! It was an eye-opener….or ear-opener in this case.
jm
October 28th, 2010
2:54 pm
BW – NO COMPROMISE!!!!!!!!! Torch the country if we can’t run it!
Just kidding.
Jay
October 28th, 2010
2:54 pm
Get your facts straight, indeed, Leg Lamp.
Bush enjoyed approval ratings of about 60 percent, and disapproval of only about 30 percent, from his inauguration up to the calamity of 9/11.
http://www.pollingreport.com/BushFav.htm
jm
October 28th, 2010
2:55 pm
mm – ah, so you’re going to go vote Republican eh? If you’re upset with Obama for being to conservative, mm, you are not an Indie…. nice try.
Unless you count commies as part of the “indie” group.
The Leg Lamp is a "major award"....
October 28th, 2010
2:55 pm
NowReally
October 28th, 2010
2:49 pm
Oops, I almost forgot about the “Supreme Court gave it too him” excuse.
Doggone/GA
October 28th, 2010
2:56 pm
“Is America a Democracy or a Republic…..who can answer this question?”
I can. The answer is “yes” – it is a Democratic Republic
NowReally
October 28th, 2010
2:56 pm
Sid Farcas
October 28th, 2010
2:47 pm
I predict the shoe will fall on the other foot, once the Republicans fail to accomplish their agenda. I can’t wait for those spending cuts to take place or not take place. Either way, the shoe will drop.
Please cut those entitlements to the bone (Social Security, Medicare, etc…)
Paulo977
October 28th, 2010
2:57 pm
Real American
Add… 1.3million, and still counting , innocent Iraqis wiped off the face of the planet!!
Mark T
October 28th, 2010
2:57 pm
I guess Mick forgot about the $410 billion dollar Omnious Bill, and the $950 billion dollar Healthcare debacle
Mick
October 28th, 2010
2:57 pm
leg
Who won the popular vote, bush or gore? Here anything about 2nd amendment remedies after the bush selection? I wonder why not?
Francis
October 28th, 2010
2:57 pm
EXTREME PRO-AMNESTY SENATOR HARRY REID
Senator Harry Reid is a Liberal impersonating a Dem and if he is reelected, he will be delivering AMNESTY, to the 13 to 20 million illegal foreigners His counterpart Barbara Boxer is also kowtowing to the illegal immigrant invasion of our country. Reid lied when he said there were no illegal aliens in Nevada as they swept in with the construction boom and are now pilfering the welfare system in the state. GOOGLE–Voter Fraud; or Illegal alien costs; Another major concern is that the Democrats voted–YES–on, is “totalization” agreement between the U.S. and Mexico that would grant Social Security benefits to Mexicans, including those here illegally, even if they didn’t work in the U.S. long enough to qualify for Social Security benefits. Our Senior Citizens have been gainfully employed all their life’s and these demented souls in Washington, want to share our weak Social Security and pensions with illegal aliens?
GOOGLE–illegal aliens and Social Security. Whereas the Liberal-Democrats use the spin, rhetoric who splash on every page of the Liberal press that Tea Party members are anti- immigrant and this is not–TRUE?
If you want to compete for jobs in the future, then go ahead and vote the so-called Democrats back to power.
This is strictly about the “Rule of Law” and that coming to USA is a prestigious gift from the American People, who are represented by our government. Entering this great country without consent is an illegal act against all Americans. Therefore this is a crime committed by illegal aliens–NOT LEGAL IMMIGRANTS. The Tea Party will not become political pawns of the Republican Party, its elitist’s views like John Boehner or any philosophies that is epidemic of GOP demagogues. The Tea Party is a very large moderate Conservative percentage of the US, who are impulsive enough to return these United States of America back to its people
Less educated citizens have been programmed to believe that this seventh AMNESTY isn’t going to cost the taxpayers–ANYTHING. But ask Robert Rector, Chief analyst at the Heritage Foundation that taxes will go up, to pay the 2.6 TRILLION dollar bill. Slowly this federal government is growing and spreading and we can only hope that the Tea Party candidates will begin reduction in this administration–TAX and SPEND–monstrosity. Yesterday the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals yesterday threw out part of an Arizona law requiring proof of citizenship to register to vote, but left standing a section requiring registered voters to present proof of identification to cast a ballot. This at least can divorce most non-citizen voters from casting a vote. This is extremely significant in tight races, when only say 800 voters can have a completely different outcome to who goes to Washington or State assembly.
To be fair, every polling location should have one Democrat and one Republican and an Independent as oversight referees to check for absentee ballots irregularities. This is where the honor system is most weak. With the money wasted by Democrats, Republicans it would be prudent to have a national Voter Identification card, with fingerprint and picture to halt for good any form of spurious voting. Vote for Candidates of the TEA PARTY, as our agenda is to remove the taint of escalating power of an out-of-control government, shrinking its size, reintroduce the instruction of the US CONSTITUTION and return the empowerment of the People from the overzealous and arrogant politicians. Tea Party will conform to the citizen’s referendum and not to the Socialist plan of President Obama and the majority of Democrats.
By the end of this election, illegal aliens will have figured out how easy it is, to check off Senator Harry Reid, Barbara Boxer, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer and even Jerry Brown on absentee ballots? This is not just saying Voter fraud is prevalent in the Border States, but every state is equally at risk. Consider the situation that Border States are heavily impregnated with foreign nationals, more so in California, Nevada, New Mexico and Texas. That Senator Harry Reid has promised them some form of mass path to citizenship, if they vote for him in this midterm. Now when illegal aliens have already committed one offense by entering America, so committing a second crime by voting is certainly insignificant to people after the first crime. The fact that potentially filling out a registration forms to vote at home opens a gaping loophole in the voting process.
It is a certainty that hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrant homes have in that family group at least one unprocessed person, therefore illegal entrant. That anybody can get from the Post Office, Drivers License Department a voter registration or by canvassers of which Acorn had the monopoly of this vulnerable system. Senator Reid has already proved this, by–BUYING–votes for himself, with free food and drink. Other questions should be asked about SEIU union who have a past history of voter fraud, should not be allowed any intimate programming contact with electronic voting machines. or within certain any legal distance near polling sites. Then again, in Orange County Democrats gave illegal aliens the right to prospect for votes in neighborhoods. With majority leader Harry Reid promising-AMNESTY, that any new administration and then–whatever political party is seated–better take note of the public’s fury that the majority of Americans will not sign on to any form of Amnesty whatsoever. IF ANY POLITICAL PARTY OR GOVERNMENT AGENCY HAD ANY TRUE COMMITMENT TO HALTING ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, THEY WOULD MAKE ILLEGAL ENTRY A CLASS ONE FELONY?
Two Skeletons in Senator Harry Reid’s closet: GOOGLE– In 1998, Reid bought undeveloped land on the edge of Las Vegas for $400,000 in a deal set up by friend and lawyer Jay Brown, whose name has popped up in organized crime probes. In 2001, Reid sold the land for the same price to a company formed by Mr. Brown in exchange for a share in the company. Reid didn’t disclose the sale or note his stake in Brown’s company. No document exists that proves Reid’s stake.Brown fought for and obtained rezoning of the residential property to commercial use. The land was sold for $1.1 million in 2004. Reid reported a personal sale.This is a matter for investigation by the ethics committee, the feds and Nevada. GOOGLE–In November 2005 the Associated Press reported that Senate Minority Leader Reid had accepted tens of thousands of dollars from an Abramoff client, the Coushatta Indian tribe, after interceding with Secretary of the Interior Gail Norton over a casino dispute with a rival tribe.
jm
October 28th, 2010
2:57 pm
Jay, we should probably cease this debate and move on. If people want to take sides on this debate, they can just put their money where their mouths are, just by going to intrade.com….. (sorry, I love this website)
jm
October 28th, 2010
2:58 pm
Surely Francis broke some “diatribe” kind of rule…. Francis, how’s about a link next time?
Doggone/GA
October 28th, 2010
2:58 pm
“So you keep trotting that line out there all the way up until he exits the White House”
That’s exactly right. Until his term or terms are done, his promises are only not kept YET.
stands for decibels
October 28th, 2010
2:58 pm
Leg, you really think that if there’d been a terrorist attack killing nearly 3000 people, eight months into Obama’s term, that there’s any way in hell he’d have 91% support among Americans imeediately afterward?
You TPers would be falling over yourselves trying to find novel and nasty ways to blame the attack on Obama. Don’t even bother denying it.
I remember the maniacal left howling about how W “stole” the election.
Well yes, some found it difficult to move on, even after Al Gore said “it’s time for me to go.” As I’d imagine it would be had (say) your guy lost under similar circumstances.
Most of us did move on, though. Thus, well, that 91% approval I spoke of.
Harry Callahan
October 28th, 2010
2:58 pm
Mick
October 28th, 2010
2:51 pm
“medicare pres. drug (repub congress) 700 billion”
I was opposed to Bush’s prescription drug giveaway, as were many conservatives, if not most conservatives. It was just one more big spending outrage that led to the creation of the Tea Party, which, as I described above, has gone after big-spending Republicans as well as Democrats.
But here’s my question…why do liberals, who are so hell-bent on legislating free government health care for all, oppose free prescription drugs for the elderly? Could it be because they are programmed to blindly hate anything and everything related to Bush?
BW
October 28th, 2010
2:59 pm
Good God Francis….we aren’t registered to vote in Nevada!!! Deal with it!
Mick
October 28th, 2010
3:00 pm
mark t
410 billion omnibus bill, when was that signed? 950 billion healthcare bill – is that money already spent? What about the pot of gold he found at the end of the rainbow, does that count?
Abrazos
October 28th, 2010
3:00 pm
“Oh Lord, someone’s quoting the Wall Street Journal like it’s still a respectable newspaper”
“So you’d rather see something posted from the New York Times or Huffington Post?”
Well…if a right-wing media outlet is being quoted, I’d actually prefer to see something from World Net Daily or RedState.com. At least they make no pretense about objectivity (unlike the WSJ since Rupert Murdoch bought it).
Sid Farcas
October 28th, 2010
3:00 pm
NowReally
October 28th, 2010
2:56 pm
We shall see my liberal friend. All I know is that your team had the chance to do some good and look what it has gotten us. Higher unemplyment, tax increases on the way, a war that first you did not want , now it is a good thing, and a healthcare bill that we can not afford. Yeah, Hope & Change was great. And Bookman thinks he will get voted a second term.
Nice Guy
October 28th, 2010
3:00 pm
Mick @ 2:52
You’re numbers are incorrect, but that’s to be expected I guess.
Bush Wars: $871B
Bush Stimulus (02/08): $170B
The Leg Lamp is a "major award"....
October 28th, 2010
3:00 pm
Jay
October 28th, 2010
2:54 pm
Nice of you to jump in, Jay. Please reread my posts. I said nothing about approval ratings. I was referring to the maniacal left who was hell bent on destroying W’s Presidency because it was either “stolen”, or it was “given to him by the Supreme Court”. That simple. Didn’t mean to rile you.
Jay
October 28th, 2010
3:01 pm
Harry, as I recall, a lot of liberals and Democrats supported the concept, but a good number opposed the Bush approach because it was basically a giveaway of tax dollars to the highly influential pharmaceuticals industry. Time has proved that assessment correct.
mm
October 28th, 2010
3:01 pm
Disgusted @ 2:46,
Great point. Blue dogs make up about 20% of the dems but will sustain about 40% of the losses. If those seats are gonna side with the GOP, better those seats have a republican in them. These clowns caused more harm in the last 2 years than the GOP did.
stands for decibels
October 28th, 2010
3:01 pm
I posted it 30 or so minutes ago
ah, I see it. thanks.
Jefferson
October 28th, 2010
3:01 pm
The boy cried on the floor when he thought his pension was toast…
stands for decibels
October 28th, 2010
3:01 pm
the $950 billion dollar Healthcare
you do realize that’s spread over ten years, right?
BW
October 28th, 2010
3:02 pm
jm
Unfortunately some people aren’t kidding….they are nihilists because no system be it Democratic or Republican has worked out for them. It is during these difficult times that they crawl from underneath their rocks and gain an audience.
Sid Farcas
October 28th, 2010
3:02 pm
The Leg Lamp is a “major award”….
October 28th, 2010
3:00 pm
Save your breath, Bookman is like Tucker, they hit and run.
NowReally
October 28th, 2010
3:02 pm
Harry Callahan
October 28th, 2010
2:47 pm
If they aren’t Republicans, why do they all have an (R) after their names on the ballot? If they are Tea Party and aren’t really Republicans; I would think they would refuse to have an (R) behind their name in any way, shape or form.
That’s like a single woman using the MRS designation; when in fact she’s not married to anyone.
Mick
October 28th, 2010
3:02 pm
harry
Good point – its the way it was done, delay and hastert arm twisting, deal making, sound familiar? Also, after all that, the deal was a dog for the people.
OBAMINATION
October 28th, 2010
3:03 pm
Lol, the dems have already thrown in the flag for this election, I love it. GONE 2012
Nice Guy
October 28th, 2010
3:03 pm
Bosch @ 2:47
I knew where you were going, its just that the numbers that I’ve seen don’t support that position
Bosch @ 2:48
Thanks for this post. It’s fair, level headed and civil. I wish I could say the same for others on here….
Enjoy your meeting.
Harry Callahan
October 28th, 2010
3:03 pm
stands for decibels
October 28th, 2010
2:58 pm
“Leg, you really think that if there’d been a terrorist attack killing nearly 3000 people, eight months into Obama’s term, that there’s any way in hell he’d have 91% support among Americans imeediately afterward?
You TPers would be falling over yourselves trying to find novel and nasty ways to blame the attack on Obama. Don’t even bother denying it.”
Oh, you mean like Cynthia McKinney (D) (U.S. Congressman, GA) saying Bush knew the 9/11 attack was coming, but let it happen for poltical gain?
stands for decibels
October 28th, 2010
3:03 pm
Bush Wars: $871B
I’m sure that’s including all the associated costs of the Excellent Eye-Rack Adventure, right?
Real American
October 28th, 2010
3:03 pm
Harry C. Whiteman: The truth hurts, Why do Obama have to answer to the media because he is asking for Latino, blacks vote? When he was at Ohio State, Boston College, I did not hear no one say he is trying to get white students vote”"”‘
Please white bigots, look up the word socialist before you accuse the President. Most of you bigots want state control, that why you call him that, well some Americans have seen how states have screwed up, (Civil Rights)(Bail out money) we dont want a person like Nathan Deal who voted against civil rights to control us, we have enough bigots here in state govenment.
The Leg Lamp is a "major award"....
October 28th, 2010
3:04 pm
Mick
October 28th, 2010
2:57 pm
Civics lesson 101.
The popular vote does NOT secure the office of the POTUS. The electoral college does. If you wish to change things then please contact your representative and ask him or her to introduce a Constitutional Amendment.
john
October 28th, 2010
3:04 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA….I needed a good laugh today. Yeah, Jay, Obama worked real well with Republicans not even considering ANY of their ideas on Healthcare, Stimulus, Unemployement benefits…..
Get wishing upon that star Jay. No way Obama gets reelected
stands for decibels
October 28th, 2010
3:04 pm
Oh, you mean like Cynthia McKinney
And what was Ms. McKinney’s reward for such talk?
come on, Mastur-debator, try to think before hitting “submit.”
Mick
October 28th, 2010
3:04 pm
Nice guy – nice try, you’ve got your head in the sand with those numbers.
Nice Guy
October 28th, 2010
3:04 pm
Uh oh…looks like the big bad wolf has entered the room…..
Sid Farcas
October 28th, 2010
3:05 pm
stands for decibels
October 28th, 2010
3:01 pm
the $950 billion dollar Healthcare
you do realize that’s spread over ten years, right?
Oh good, I feel better about spending only $95 billion a year. And it certainly will not go up higher. Here’s your sign.
Mark T
October 28th, 2010
3:05 pm
Mick, you really are cluless arent you…If you are gonna try to debate with people, know your facts….here ya go, AGAIN!President Obama this afternoon privately signed the $410 billion omnibus spending bill passed by Congress, which he has acknowledged is “imperfect” because of potentially-unnecessary earmarks…from cbs news
Harry Callahan
October 28th, 2010
3:05 pm
Jay
October 28th, 2010
3:01 pm
“Harry, as I recall, a lot of liberals and Democrats supported the concept, but a good number opposed the Bush approach because it was basically a giveaway of tax dollars to the highly influential pharmaceuticals industry. Time has proved that assessment correct.”
Jay, all that may be true, but my 89-yr-old grandmother gets her meds for free. All government programs are a giveaway of tax dollars to someone or another.
The Leg Lamp is a "major award"....
October 28th, 2010
3:06 pm
Mick
October 28th, 2010
2:57 pm
Civics lesson 102
Oops. I forgot to mention that Gore was not the only presidential candidate to win the popular vote but lose the election. Thought you might find that interesting……or not.
mm
October 28th, 2010
3:06 pm
jm,
Being a republican or democrat, you cannot speak for the mindset of an indie. Some lean right, some lean left, most just look at the candidate’s qualifications, not the R or D next to their name.
As for me, I supported Newt and his gang in 94. That backfired so bad, I have not voted for the GOP since.
Jefferson
October 28th, 2010
3:06 pm
…because he was scared. That’s all the GOP knows.
Nice Guy
October 28th, 2010
3:06 pm
Stands – “I’m sure that’s including all the associated costs of the Excellent Eye-Rack Adventure, right?”
Um, yes, it does bubba.
Iraq: $687B
Afghan: $184B
Jay
October 28th, 2010
3:06 pm
jm, as to intrade:
Why would I take 3-2 odds in Obama’s favor when Harry here is willing to give me 400 to one against?
Right Harry? Your offer still good?
Sid Farcas
October 28th, 2010
3:07 pm
stands for decibels
October 28th, 2010
3:04 pm
Oh, you mean like Cynthia McKinney
And what was Ms. McKinney’s reward for such talk?
come on, Mastur-debator, try to think before hitting “submit.”
Her reward? She is still allowed to be free and spew her lies and hate. I’d say she came out pretty darn good.
Harry Callahan
October 28th, 2010
3:08 pm
NowReally
October 28th, 2010
3:02 pm
Harry Callahan
October 28th, 2010
2:47 pm
“If they aren’t Republicans, why do they all have an (R) after their names”
Nobody said hey weren’t Republicans. I implied that it is inaccurate to portray tea party candidates as blindly loyal to the Republican party, or to portray them as “moe of the same” candidates. I thought liberals were all about “nuance”? Because you seem remarkably unable to distinguish fine shades of meaning.
Nice Guy
October 28th, 2010
3:08 pm
“nice try, you’ve got your head in the sand with those numbers.”
Once again, Mick, you just don’t want to beleive the truth, but rather make up numbers to support your position. Sigh.
White man
October 28th, 2010
3:08 pm
Jay is just hanging on to a hope for 2012 because he knows that the Dems are going to get their clocks cleaned on november 2nd.
Mick
October 28th, 2010
3:08 pm
leg
C’mon man, you dodged my point, were the dems walking around strapping their guns and talking about violence because bush was selected? It was a bitter pill but we moved on and then 911. I still say there’s a good possibility that it would have been prevented if gore was pres.
Jefferson
October 28th, 2010
3:09 pm
I liked the lie “compassionate conservative”, that was a good one.
jm
October 28th, 2010
3:09 pm
mm is a little unhinged….
“Great point. Blue dogs make up about 20% of the dems but will sustain about 40% of the losses. If those seats are gonna side with the GOP, better those seats have a republican in them. These clowns caused more harm in the last 2 years than the GOP did.”
mm wants to be in the minority, thinks moderate dems caused problems
“As for me, I supported Newt and his gang in 94. That backfired so bad, I have not voted for the GOP since.”
And voted for GOP in 94. mm is lost in the wilderness….