Obama odds in 2012 look better and better

U.S. Rep. John Boehner

U.S. Rep. John Boehner

John Boehner, who is likely to become the next speaker of the House, went on Sean Hannity’s radio show Wednesday to offer a preview of what to expect:

“This is not a time for compromise, and I can tell you that we will not compromise on our principles,” Boehner said….

As for Obama’s own agenda, Boehner promised, “We’re going to do everything – and I mean everything we can do – to kill it, stop it, slow it down, whatever we can.”

Meanwhile, according to a newly released Bloomberg poll:

bloomberg

Four out of five Americans want compromise. The Republicans don’t dare even entertain compromise. This is playing right to Obama’s strength. He will come across as calm, rational and reasonable. The Republicans will either come across as angry and aggressive, or they will deeply disappoint their own base.

Obama will also have history on his side. As National Journal points out, presidents who lose control of Congress in their first midterms tend to gain a political advantage:

“It’s occurred three times in the past 100 years, and in each case the minority party that took control watched the supposedly vanquished president win reelection just two years later. First, Harry Truman in 1948 (after losing 55 House and 13 Senate seats in 1946); second, Dwight Eisenhower in 1956 (after losing 18 House and two Senate seats in 1954, creating Democratic majorities that would last in the Senate until 1980 and in the House until 1994); and finally, Bill Clinton in 1996 (after losing 54 House and eight Senate seats in 1994).”

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ken R

October 28th, 2010
10:15 am

Time will tell, but I personally don’t think he will be around after 2012.

USinUK

October 28th, 2010
10:21 am

… add to that the GOP peanut gallery waiting to run (yeah, I’m looking at you, St. Sarah of the Tundra), and his chances look better and better …

carlosgvv

October 28th, 2010
10:21 am

I will predict the Republicans will make big gains in both the House and Senate. Many of the new House and Senate members will be of the Tea Party mentality. They will cause complete and total gridlock and most likely will turn out to be utterly incompentent. So, in the next Presidential race Obama can blame everything on the “do nothing Congress” and sail to re-election. If this happens the extreme right wing will have only themselves to blame.

Paulo977

October 28th, 2010
10:22 am

ken R
“Time will tell” ….indeed it will!!

HDB

October 28th, 2010
10:23 am

Like I remind everyone….what’s the LAST act in the circus?? The sweepers!! They’re the ones who have to clean up after the ELEPHANTS have finished!!!

FinnMcCool

October 28th, 2010
10:27 am

2012 will be a cake walk for obama and, after seeing how bad the 2010 rush to elect any and every (R) with a pulse, the American people will vote the Democrats back into control of both houses.

One Nation Under educated

October 28th, 2010
10:27 am

We have to have someone to run against in 2012 (clowns) Thank you, again, wingnuts. All Rush, Boner, Angle, and the Good witch need is a little car and those big shoes…

Jimmy62

October 28th, 2010
10:28 am

Clinton got reelected because he compromised and went right with welfare reform. Obama seems unwilling to move right to compromise. Yours and his version of compromise seems to be that the GOP move left rather then the two meet in the middle. Of course the real middle is libertarian, which the majority of Americans are in principle if not in party identification, and the left is never going to believe that government is not the answer to all our problems.

FinnMcCool

October 28th, 2010
10:28 am

If this happens the extreme right wing will have only themselves to blame.

That’s not even in the vocabulary of a Republican/Conservative. You can ALWAYS blame it all on the Democrats.

Scout

October 28th, 2010
10:29 am

“Obama will also have history on his side”

There has never been a President this dangerous to our Republic. People are waking up. We’ll see.

USinUK

October 28th, 2010
10:31 am

“There has never been a President this dangerous to our Republic”

oh, sweet jeebus … again with the amature dramatics …

sleestak

October 28th, 2010
10:31 am

I hope for “total gridlock” it will stop the Out of G.D control federal gubmint from doing anything.

Mr Right

October 28th, 2010
10:31 am

The President needs to change his tone from “they are the enemies” and ” they have to ride in the back” [ couldn't anybody get by with saying that about him]. He likes to say things that divide not that unite and to win in 2012 that has to change!!

RB from Gwinnett

October 28th, 2010
10:32 am

I’d prefer a “do nothing” congress ove what we have now.

Paul

October 28th, 2010
10:33 am

My 10:13, previous thread, same points.

There are a lot of high expectations for spending adjustments. Just like people had high expectations two years ago. Republicans don’t deliver, they’ll face the same outrage. But they have the added problem of “I told you guys to cut waste and unnecessary programs!! You wanna cut my stuff!!! That’s not what I meant!!!!”

FinnMcCool

October 28th, 2010
10:33 am

He likes to say things that divide not that unite and to win in 2012 that has to change!!

posted right after Mr. Right wrote: The President needs to change his tone from “they are the enemies” and ” they have to ride in the back” [ couldn't anybody get by with saying that about him].

pot, meet kettle

you can’t make this hilarity up

jm

October 28th, 2010
10:34 am

Jay, I think you’re dreaming. Definitely speculating.

“The Republicans don’t dare even entertain compromise.” I think they will. We’ll see. Some Republican needs to neuter Rush, but I don’t see how.

Mr Right

October 28th, 2010
10:34 am

And what was made up??

FinnMcCool

October 28th, 2010
10:35 am

RB doesn’t care that our interstates and bridges are crumbling? Do nothing and let’s take care of these infrastructure problems maybe in 20 years? Let our children clean up the mess.

Typical Republican

USinUK

October 28th, 2010
10:36 am

“Some Republican needs to neuter Rush, but I don’t see how.”

good gawd.

I actually agree with jm.

USinUK

October 28th, 2010
10:37 am

Finn – private ennerprise can fix it all, doncha know …

Mick

October 28th, 2010
10:38 am

scout
**There has never been a President this dangerous to our Republic. People are waking up. We’ll see.**

I think the republican party is way more dangerous….the people probably need another jolt anyway…if this crew takes over then we’ll see which way we go..

Left wing management

October 28th, 2010
10:40 am

I don’t know, Jay, it’s early to talk about Obama reelection right now.

Due to Obama’s timidity about a wide range of issues, and his determined centrism in an age when it makes little sense, I can very well imagine surprisingly successful challenges coming from his own coalition much like we’ve seen sitting Republicans face.

Mr Right

October 28th, 2010
10:40 am

USinIK, BIG GOV can fix it all, oops, history tells a different story!!

Bosch

October 28th, 2010
10:40 am

“Obama seems unwilling to move right to compromise.”

Oh sweet Jesus.

So what is not compromising about his stance on DADT? Afghanistan? Wire taps? Health care reform (we do not have single payer)?

Good Lord people. You can say this kind of crap all you want, but the facts are just not there.

Mr Right

October 28th, 2010
10:41 am

FinnMcCool

October 28th, 2010
10:33 am

What part was made up??

jm

October 28th, 2010
10:42 am

Bosch – Obama himself said he got 90% of what he wanted on Health Care Reform. That’s not compromise. It’s pretty clear from multiple analysts, interviews, etc., that Obama will have a much tougher time moving to the center than Clinton did. We shall see.

Right now, we’re all in the realm of complete and utter speculation.

USinUK

October 28th, 2010
10:42 am

Mr Right –

without Big Gov, you wouldn’t have interstates

without Big Gov, we wouldn’t have food and drug standards

without Big Gov, the country wouldn’t have a cohesive monetary policy

without Big Gov, you wouldn’t have clean air and water

without Big Gov, cleanup and recovery after devastating storms and events would take longer and cost more

ROBOCOP

October 28th, 2010
10:42 am

Jimmy62–Clinton was able to work with Republicans at that time who were a much more enlightend group than the herd that’s there now. He didn’t have fools like that corrupt Mitch McConnell and Tan-Bpy Boehner saying that their number one goal is to prevent Obama from having a second term. All Obama has to do is be cool and not lose his head while the new batch of Repubs and their bastard children, the Tea Partiers, go ape.

This is going to be a lot of fun to watch

One Nation Under educated

October 28th, 2010
10:43 am

Wingnut extinction is still comin, fellas. It’s just a little farther down the road than I originally smelled it.

Paulo977

October 28th, 2010
10:43 am

jm
Hey someone’s using your name and wanting to neuter Rush!!!!!

ROBOCOP

October 28th, 2010
10:43 am

Meant to say “Tan-Boy…”

Bosch

October 28th, 2010
10:44 am

Paul,

I left you a note downstairs, but your 10:24 post to Reb deserves an award.

Mr Right

October 28th, 2010
10:45 am

USinUK– sooo we need to let BIG GOV control our life because they gave us a few good things?

AmVet's Mystery Meat

October 28th, 2010
10:45 am

Bosch, they aren’t “facts” – they’re your opinions, you minion.

USinUK

October 28th, 2010
10:46 am

jm – “Obama himself said he got 90% of what he wanted on Health Care Reform”

good grief – there’s a world of difference between what one WANTS and what one ASKS FOR. if you go into a negotiation thinking that you’re willing to take XYZ, you ask for UVWXYZ – if you get UVW, that’s gravy. If you walk away with XYZ, that doesn’t mean that you didn’t negotiate.

Paulo977

October 28th, 2010
10:46 am

USinUK
10:42
He** I guess they never did basic Civics even !!

Left wing management

October 28th, 2010
10:46 am

USinUK,

Yep, and don’t forget:

without Big Gov, you wouldn’t have had railroads and thus probably the modern transportation infrastructure

jm

October 28th, 2010
10:46 am

Paulo977 – funny. no hijacking occurring….

Del

October 28th, 2010
10:46 am

With a fractured Dem party I would say that Obama’s 012 chances will get dimmer and dimmer. Of course Americans want compromise but not to accommodate the far-left agenda that’s been pushed by Obama, Reid and Polosi. That direction has proven to be unacceptable for the American majority. My prediction is that the onus will be on the Democrats to do an about face and turn to the right. Obama is a product of far left ideology and I don’t see him being able to move in that direction as Clinton did. So, unlike Clinton he’ll become more and more marginalized as his term in office winds down.

Left wing management

October 28th, 2010
10:47 am

USinUK,

Though you did say interstates I realize. :)

Haywood Jablome

October 28th, 2010
10:48 am

“Tan-Boy”

Original and funny!!!

USinUK

October 28th, 2010
10:48 am

Mr Right – “USinUK– sooo we need to let BIG GOV control our life because they gave us a few good things?”

who said anything about control? you said they haven’t done anything good, I pointed out that they have.

you still have plenty of control over your life, diddums.

Mr Right

October 28th, 2010
10:49 am

Yea BIG GOV is wonderful , they also gave us a debt that we will never be able to repay!

USinUK

October 28th, 2010
10:49 am

LWM – I thought most rail was brought to us by companies (such as Union Pacific) … although, it was the gummint that made all the land purchases possible

Paul

October 28th, 2010
10:50 am

Bosch

Saw it – left a comment for you – and my 10:24 was right there with your 10:28

Hey, remember David Zucker? One of the writers of Airplane and Naked Gun? He’s back at it with political spoof commercials!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKHIoaflBR8

Doggone/GA

October 28th, 2010
10:51 am

““Some Republican needs to neuter Rush, but I don’t see how.”

It isn’t “some” Republican who needs to do it…it’s ALL Republicans. How to do it is dead easy: just ignore him

USinUK

October 28th, 2010
10:51 am

Mr Right – “they also gave us a debt that we will never be able to repay!”

and did I say that gummint spending doesn’t need to be cut?

dude. seriously. stick to the subject and stop getting distracted by shiny objects

jm

October 28th, 2010
10:51 am

Here’s what Obama left out of Health Care Reform that are good conservative ideas:
Tort Reform to stop defensive medicine
Regulated, but inter-state (cross-border) commerce in health insurance
Fixing all the messes with regards to health insurance tax deductability variances between individuals and corporations
Ensuring minimum deductibles before insurance kicks in so people become more price sensitive, reducing overall costs
Considering making available a menu of plans that aren’t all the Rolls Royce version. Most corporate and other plans cover damn near everything including insanely expensive short term ineffective treatments.

I’m not rehashing this debate. The people are voting Tuesday. Thank heavens.

USinUK

October 28th, 2010
10:52 am

Paul – you know your USinUK file? hopefully my 6:02 (from downstairs +1) will help

jm

October 28th, 2010
10:53 am

Oh, lest I forget, completely revamping Medicare. Essentially go private (end Medicare) but improve and extend Medicaid to the destitute.

FinnMcCool

October 28th, 2010
10:54 am

Mr. Right, i didn’t say you made anything up. Reread the post.

jm

October 28th, 2010
10:54 am

By the way, Rush is just trying to act as a counterweight to the insane long term leftward drift of this country over the last 50 years.

The guy’s comments aren’t generally productive, but he serves a use.

Mick

October 28th, 2010
10:54 am

Some myths about obama:
“The list of public misconceptions is long and politically crippling. Maybe the single most damaging is that the Obama administration has brought about an epidemic of government spending, tripling the yearly budget deficit and vastly increasing the national debt.

Never happened. History records that President George W. Bush, who inherited a $236 billion government surplus from the Clinton administration in 2001, handed President Obama a stacked deck eight years later.

The Congressional Budget Office’s projected budget deficit for FY2009, beginning four months before Obama took office, was already in excess of $1.3 trillion. Indeed, the 2011 budget deficit is projected to be ever-so-slightly lower than the one Bush left on the White House doorstep. Despite the one-time $787 billion economic stimulus (spread over three years), no huge growth in government spending has taken place on Obama’s watch.

Three proximate causes of the rising national debt remain: the Bush tax cuts of 2001, his unfunded Medicare drug benefit, and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Alas, stating these historical facts has been declared out of bounds. It’s playing the “blame game,” a formulation greatly persuasive to Tea Partiers and conservative talk-show hosts basically because it rhymes.”
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/barack_obama/index.html?story=/opinion/feature/2010/10/27/gene_lyons_believe_the_facts

Paul

October 28th, 2010
10:56 am

USinUK

Ooooh, yesssss! That’s another one for my USinUK file! Thanks!

Just finished tweaking another cottage pie recipe, but I’ll give this a go. Perfection is a quest -

FinnMcCool

October 28th, 2010
10:56 am

Without big gov you wouldn’t have infrastructure in the US.

Without infrastructure, you have no transit system (let’s see Wal Mart get as big as it is with horse and buggy delivering it’s chinese wares from a port city to your hometown.)

Paul

October 28th, 2010
10:57 am

jm 10:51

Do you think the Republican House will propose any of that? They’re on record as ‘repealing’ the whole thing, you know -

FinnMcCool

October 28th, 2010
10:59 am

How much entrepreneurial risk and spirit would you see in the US if there was no safety net of social security/medicare/Medicaid?

Mr Right

October 28th, 2010
11:00 am

who said anything about control? you said they haven’t done anything good, I pointed out that they have.

I checked back and and can’t see where I said they have not done any good. We do need gov, but not BIG GOV.

Keep up the good fight!

October 28th, 2010
11:00 am

Ensuring minimum deductibles before insurance kicks in so people become more price sensitive, reducing overall costs

Oh that definitely makes sense. Because when you are sick or injured, that is the time to shop around. When you are ill and feeling miserable, shop for that pharmacy discount from any number of stores. In a car wreck and injured…wait, let me check the internet for hospital pricing.

AmVet's Mystery Meat

October 28th, 2010
11:00 am

Without big gov you wouldn’t have infrastructure in the US

False.

You aren’t so naive to think that ONLY the Gov could provide a transit system? Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Jay

October 28th, 2010
11:00 am

So @@, I take it you like Ryan’s proposal to impose a VAT here in these United States of America?

Mr Right

October 28th, 2010
11:01 am

Mr. Right, i didn’t say you made anything up. Reread the post

Really, what did you say?

AmVet's Mystery Meat

October 28th, 2010
11:01 am

Jay, love the Johnny Isakson ad on your page!

Ivan Cohen

October 28th, 2010
11:02 am

Ideology of the Right is synonymous with Rigid. If he were around today President Dwight David Eisenhower wouldn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell of getting the bill passed which provided the interstate highways that we drive on today.

jm

October 28th, 2010
11:02 am

Paul 10:57 – I have no idea. We’ll have to wait and see. I think there’s room to compromise. Ie, there are ideas some R’s and some D’s both think are good ideas. We’ll see…

Del

October 28th, 2010
11:03 am

Sorry but the Bush blame game just hasn’t worked because at some point the people look at the guy in office and that time came. Obama made the mistake of putting his social agenda and pay offs to labor unions along with friends on wall street ahead of main street economic priorities. Sooner or later a president needs to govern as a president. Obama has spent too much time campaigning as a candidate.

pat

October 28th, 2010
11:03 am

Okay Nostradamus, then who should I put my bet on to win the Super Bowl this year?

USinUK

October 28th, 2010
11:03 am

“You aren’t so naive to think that ONLY the Gov could provide a transit system? Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha”

the alternative: TOLL ROADS AS FAR AS THE EYE CAN SEE.

thanks mystery meat

Disgusted

October 28th, 2010
11:04 am

There are a lot of high expectations for spending adjustments. Just like people had high expectations two years ago. Republicans don’t deliver, they’ll face the same outrage.

Worry not. They’ll go after the peanuts on the bar floor—pay freezes for federal employees, a half-hearted effort to “reform” Social Security, a failed attempt to repeal the healthcare law, etc. They won’t touch the big-ticket items—a Defense Department budget bloated by spending for duplicate jet engines that even the Pentagon didn’t want, tax cuts we can’t afford, restoring funding for a joint command in Virginia that the Defense Secretary identified as redundant, outrageous agricultural subsidies, etc. And they’ll drag out the great super-patriotic posture to justify their behavior.

It’s like watching a play for the fifth time. We all know how it’s going to end.

jm

October 28th, 2010
11:05 am

Jay 11:00 – I do. As long as they strip out (remove) any income tax on income below $300 or $500k and just get rid of Corporate Taxes.

USinUK

October 28th, 2010
11:05 am

Paul – you got that right – perfection is a quest, unobtainable but a challenge

the guy on the couch

October 28th, 2010
11:05 am

That assumes that Obama is the *best representation for the Democratic party. If the ‘Crats have wised up, they’ll find someone *better without the disastrous baggage Obama carries personally.

Jay

October 28th, 2010
11:05 am

Really Pat?

If I told you, it would take all the drama and fun out of the rest of the season, and then the playoffs too. So I’ll keep that my little secret.

Doggone/GA

October 28th, 2010
11:05 am

“Really, what did you say?”

Ok, this is getting funnier and funnier!

barking frog

October 28th, 2010
11:06 am

I’m waiting for the only unplayed card in the presidential
political deck. Lame duck resignation a year before the
election to give the VP a head start. It could happen.

jm

October 28th, 2010
11:06 am

USinUK 11:03 –

“TOLL ROADS AS FAR AS THE EYE CAN SEE.”

I love toll roads. Direct relationship between the cost and benefit to and from the users.

Left wing management

October 28th, 2010
11:07 am

jm “By the way, Rush is just trying to act as a counterweight to the insane long term leftward drift of this country over the last 50 years.”

No trace of irony here, jm, which leads me to believe you actually believe this. Which causes me to think you’re one of those conservative-leaning people who turn to conservativism as a reaction to a fear that the old norms of decency and order have broken down, that the world’s going to hell in a hand basket, etc. In fact, the main reason for the breakdown in traditional ways of life is the rise and dominance of Capital, not of some ‘leftward drift’ in the culture. The so-called culture wars is the greatest con and diversion ever put over by Big Capital.

FinnMcCool: “Without infrastructure, you have no transit system (let’s see Wal Mart get as big as it is with horse and buggy…”

So-called ‘conservatives’ and Tea Party believers need to be instructed that historically there has been, and continues to be today, one major benefactor to big government and one only: Big Capital. And this while carrying out a campaign to disavow its dependence on it and to neuter it in its regulatory functions.

Doggone/GA

October 28th, 2010
11:07 am

“I think there’s room to compromise.”

Sure there’s ROOM to compromise, but will the John Boehner’s ALLOW it?

FinnMcCool

October 28th, 2010
11:07 am

Mystery meat, how about doing what the FDA does? What state entity do you want inspecting your mystery meat in the grocery store?

Maybe you want each town or maybe county to set up it’s own meat and vegetable inspection units? How long before one county get’s sick and then spreads that sickness to other towns? And of course you would have to limit where meat produced in that town/county could be shipped so there goes industry out the window.

USinUK

October 28th, 2010
11:08 am

Doggone – taking a page from the GOP playbook, “oh, hell no” …

jm

October 28th, 2010
11:09 am

left wing – I didn’t say our culture was drifting leftward. But our government is. That’s the natural progression of things. It takes an alert electorate to stem the tide. But I think they’ve woken up….

barking frog

October 28th, 2010
11:09 am

VAT won’t make it, national sales tax will. collection system
is already in place.

Doggone/GA

October 28th, 2010
11:09 am

“Direct relationship between the cost and benefit to and from the users.”

And I avoid them whenever humanely possible. The GA 400 toll road has made exactly 50 cents from me in all the years it has existed, and I only paid that because I was not able to get off at the last exit..which I did try to do.

Don't Forget

October 28th, 2010
11:09 am

jm, medicare is just insurance. How will privatizing it help without reducing benefits?

RB from Gwinnett

October 28th, 2010
11:10 am

“RB doesn’t care that our interstates and bridges are crumbling? Do nothing and let’s take care of these infrastructure problems maybe in 20 years? Let our children clean up the mess.”

Gee, that’s all our government spends money on??? What a shock!!

Tip for you Finn. If that’s all the debate you’ve got, stay on the porch and let the big kids handle what the government actually does.

jm

October 28th, 2010
11:10 am

Doggone – Boehner has already (vaccillatingly – if that’s a word) indicated he’s open to compromise. In addition, no gov’t shut downs. But we’ll see soon enough.

Left wing management

October 28th, 2010
11:10 am

barking frog: “Lame duck resignation a year before the election to give the VP a head start”

Might be a great opportunity for Obama to show he really meant it when he spoke for “change”. What better way to exemplify true change than to take one for the team and step down for a stronger leader to step in?

USinUK

October 28th, 2010
11:11 am

“(vaccillatingly – if that’s a word)”

if it isn’t, it should be

Doggone/GA

October 28th, 2010
11:12 am

“taking a page from the GOP playbook, “oh, hell no” …”

I agree

AmVet's Mystery Meat

October 28th, 2010
11:12 am

USinUK

October 28th, 2010
11:03 am

My, my… how closed minded you are. Free your mind and the rest will follow.

larry

October 28th, 2010
11:12 am

Yep. Love those toll lanes. After you pay taxes to build the road and pay taxes to build the HOV lanes , you are paying again to travel on them. Nothing like being taxed three times just to drive on an interstate.

barking frog

October 28th, 2010
11:13 am

Doggone/GA

October 28th, 2010
11:09 am
“Direct relationship between the cost and benefit to and from the users.”

And I avoid them whenever humanely possible. The GA 400 toll road has made exactly 50 cents from me in all the years it has existed, and I only paid that because I was not able to get off at the last exit..which I did try to do.

—————————————————————————————
The best argument of all. A tax you can avoid if it
is not to your benefit.

jm

October 28th, 2010
11:13 am

Don’t Forget – it’s the “balloon” problem familiar to the folks in health care policy circles. The reason private insurance is going up through the roof is because Medicare underpays for services.

When people have to pay for what they want, then people will be more price sensitive. I’ll add two “caveats”. I’m not the most familiar with Medicare as far as the payments people make when in the system (like Medicare Advantage). And I also think we have to retain a health care system for the destitute.

It was generally assumed most people would be destitute at 65. That’s not really the case anymore. Privatize it, fix it. Keep / improve health care for those without any financial means of their own.

jt

October 28th, 2010
11:14 am

The only future for liberty is to make the 2012 Federal presidential race irrelevant.

This will happen sooner or later anyhow. We will do this the easy way or the hard. Why not make it 2012?

Let Obama rule the District of Crooks. Let the progressives move to Washington and have Barney Frank and Steny Hoyer manage their affairs and leave everyone else alone.

God Bless Georgia and her soverienty.

Donovan

October 28th, 2010
11:14 am

Oh, Jay… You’ve got to be kidding all of us, right? This country as a whole has rejected this president and his kooky agenda. All of his lame brain initiatives and passed legislation have not worked. He was elected on a pixie dust campaign of Hope & Change. How is that Hope & Change working out for all of you who put him in office? His most recent political oratory plea to the public is “change takes time”. We don’t need 2 more years of his kind of nation destroying Hope & Change. Massive spending, generational debt, unemployment at 10%, economic uncertainty, higher taxes, and a Congress that has the lowest rating in history will not support your idea that this inept president will be reelected. Liberals are incapable of being pragmatic and therefore they find themselves generally rejected in their long term agenda. November 2 should the greatest example of a national referendum to the agenda set forth by this liberal establishment that was so foolishly put in place back in 2006.

USinUK

October 28th, 2010
11:15 am

Mystery Meat –

realistic /= closed-minded

or are you saying that, if private industry provided our infrastructure, they’d give it to us for FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Doggone/GA

October 28th, 2010
11:15 am

“Boehner has already (vaccillatingly – if that’s a word) indicated he’s open to compromise”

Ummm…I guess you didn’t actually READ the quotes that began Jay’s commentary, on which blog entry you are posting (as of YESTERDAY):

“This is not a time for compromise, and I can tell you that we will not compromise on our principles,” Boehner said….

As for Obama’s own agenda, Boehner promised, “We’re going to do everything – and I mean everything we can do – to kill it, stop it, slow it down, whatever we can.”

jm

October 28th, 2010
11:16 am

larry – aside from the right of way itself – I assume you’re aware asphalt roads don’t have a very long useful life. You have to keep paying for them to make them of any use. You know, that whole deteriorating infrastructure problem thing….

So you’re not really paying for it 3 times. It would be fine by me if they tolled the whole damn thing. As a matter of fact, that’s going to be the future anyway. Better get used to it….

USinUK

October 28th, 2010
11:16 am

!”The reason private insurance is going up through the roof is because Medicare underpays for services”

no … no … no … no … NO

the reason private insurance is going through the roof is because bond yields are at historic lows … when investment income is down, companies need to make up the difference – they do that by hiking premiums.