Voter-fraud claims a case of mass, self-induced hysteria
The charge that liberal groups are trying to steal elections through massive voter fraud has become an integral part of the conservative belief system. I used to think it was just a claim they used in a cynical effort to gain political advantage, and maybe that’s all it was in the beginning. But at this point, the charge is fully and sincerely believed by millions, and they are acting on that sincere belief.
Yet, there is no factual evidence whatsoever to sustain that claim. For eight years, the Bush Department of Justice tried very, very hard to come up with evidence of such a conspiracy. They even pushed good, conservative, effective federal prosecutors out of their jobs because those prosecutors were allegedly lax in pursuing such cases.
But eight years of effort and investigation produced nothing. In the end, they found no proof whatsoever of any conspiracy to commit large-scale voting fraud. Zero, nada, zilch.
Yeah, I know:
“ACORN.”
At this point in the debate, conservatives wave that word around as if it were a silver cross capable of fending off all manners of vampires, zombies and facts that they might find threatening to their world outlook.
It doesn’t work. Mythology aside, ACORN has never been charged, let alone convicted, of any effort to subvert free and fair elections. If the Bush DoJ had any evidence that ACORN or any other group was involved in such an enterprise, you can bet every single thing that you own that it would have tried to make that case. And it should have, because election integrity is crucial.
Yet it did nothing of the sort.
Given all that, the GOP fixation on voter fraud is explainable only as a case of mass, self-induced hysteria. I understand that sounds harsh. But if you have a better explanation, I’d love to hear it.
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My Middle Name Is David
October 27th, 2010
8:27 pm
Dear Kamchack,
Try to fake a Passport…. It’s possible but very difficult and carries a heavy prison sentence if convicted.
josef nix
October 27th, 2010
8:31 pm
PAUL
One of my colleagues is the granddaughter of a Tuskeegee airman…he is one of our volunteers…
Doggone…
I’m just saying that I will consider more the opinion of one who actually knows the people he’s talking about than one who doesn’t…I doubt my opinion will change, but it’s less of a “those people” mind set than you have to deal with from those who’ve never shared a cup of coffee with “them.”
My Middle Name Is David
October 27th, 2010
8:32 pm
josef –
President Woodrow Wilson, Grand Master of The Progressive Movement, later decried, “”I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.” -Woodrow Wilson, after signing the Federal Reserve into existence.”
Kamchak
October 27th, 2010
8:33 pm
Try to fake a Passport…. It’s possible…
Good.
You got my point.
barking frog
October 27th, 2010
8:33 pm
DebbieDoRight
October 27th, 2010
8:22 pm
——————————————————————————————
If you think the enlisted oath of office is BS, how can you
possibly be an officer of the court? Your psychic abilities
are lacking again as I am probably more liberal than anyone
you know and have been since I was 55 or maybe before.
As in the training of children, discipline and respect do
not constitute abuse, spousal or otherwise. I don’t do
tantrums but arguments with professional forked tongues
do stimulate my verbiage.
Doggone/GA
October 27th, 2010
8:33 pm
“it is OK if they are “your” illegals”
do you have the same objections to gays canvassing to get out the vote? Or the handicapped? Or Republicans? Democrats? LIbertarians? Redheaeds? Blondes? How about the elderly? Do you object to them canvassing for get out the vote? They all have an agenda, you know. So if you don’t like an illegal immigrant cavassing then you should object to ANYONE doing that…because EVERYONE can be twisted into having SOME kind of agenda.
DebbieDoRight
October 27th, 2010
8:34 pm
josef: DDR – “Call Me Ishmael?” Whoah, Girl, once again you surprize me! Isn’t THAT one a work to make you stop and rethink what it is you thought you thought? Reread it again this summer!
oh josef, what a big…..ummmmm brain you have!! …………sigh…..
When a man keeps beating me to the draw mentally, he begins to get glamorous.
- Zora Neale Hurston
Doggone/GA
October 27th, 2010
8:35 pm
“Why?”
Because they can sell them at market value, which is greater than their “face” value…and make a profit…which also gives the buyer an investment choice. Isn’t that the essence of capitalism? You have something of value, and you sell it to the highest bidder. Capitalism in action!
My Middle Name Is David
October 27th, 2010
8:36 pm
Ok Kamchack…. Then we shouldn’t do nuthin’ Eff it. If ur here you have a right to vote, evade law enforcement, go to school, get medical treatment and be President sumday.
Paul
October 27th, 2010
8:36 pm
Middle Name
“The US Mint creates $20 gold coins that are legal tender.
Why?”
So the rest of us can by gold in a decent size, with a guarantee of purity, that’s why -
Paul
October 27th, 2010
8:36 pm
Doggone/GA
I liked your response better.
Again.
Moderate Line
October 27th, 2010
8:37 pm
Jay
October 27th, 2010
5:23 pm
Well, md, once I found that incident, I couldn’t exactly hide it, now could I?
Wouldn’t be kosher.
I’ll also add that if the Pa. case is indeed a problem, it’s a whole different approach than the multiple-voting, dead-voting, illegal immigrant-voting, multiple-registration model that seems to keep so many in the GOP up late at night in worry. As I noted earlier, it’s an abuse of absentee balloting, which truly is a problem area all across the country, including Georgia.
+++++++++
Why would anyone be against making the system more sound. I personally do not like these voting machines we use in GA. I would perfer a paper ballot with an automatic counter which could be verified. For me it is about producing elections of the highest standards.
Doggone/GA
October 27th, 2010
8:37 pm
“but it’s less of a “those people” mind set ”
But *I* have not said anything about that, or anything like it. I am focused on his (and md’s) inability to understand that there is nothing subversive, or even WRONG with even illegal immigrants cavassing their LEGALLY ELIGIBLE neighbors and relatives to get out and vote.
josef nix
October 27th, 2010
8:37 pm
David
Be careful with Wilson! RW’s liable to come in with a me on Andy Jackson attack!
So, I assume you DID go and see what Owen said about his “contribution!”
And, again, my reason for going for the passport, that is the hardest document to forge and the highest “officialdom” of the US of A backs it…
md
October 27th, 2010
8:38 pm
“do you have the same objections to gays canvassing to get out the vote? Or the handicapped? Or Republicans? Democrats? LIbertarians? Redheaeds? Blondes? How about the elderly? Do you object to them canvassing for get out the vote? They all have an agenda, you know. So if you don’t like an illegal immigrant cavassing then you should object to ANYONE doing that…because EVERYONE can be twisted into having SOME kind of agenda.”
No problem with any of them, unless they are here illegally.
Again, do you like the idea of Chavez sending people in?? Imanutjob sending in Iranians?? Putin sending in the KGB??? All would be illegal………but what you seem to be doing is picking and choosing as to who would be OK and who would not.
Unless you think it to be OK for all??
Personally, I prefer not to do for one what I will not do for all………
DebbieDoRight
October 27th, 2010
8:38 pm
md: DDR, He is making the distinction between serving and politics. They all serve for us, regardless of mission………………………
Sorry I should’ve made myself clearer. I was not adverse to his saying how and why he/others served, I was pizzed because he inferred that my father didn’t “train” me or something. Like I’m a dog!! (NO comments from the audience!!)
My Middle Name Is David
October 27th, 2010
8:40 pm
Dog – One more time with all due respect.
Do you understand that the US mint produces “lawful money” currency made of precious metals?
It’s real money.
Your paper dollar Federal Reserve Note is BS.
It’s a simple question, with all due respect. Why is the government required by law to produce gold and silver coins?
Del
October 27th, 2010
8:40 pm
2 zip Texas. What’s this blog confession about age. I’m in my 60’s so I’m beyond the double nickle. Debbie on USMC posers, don’t think we have any on here. I can tell by serial number the time frame when enlisted entered service. Actually the first 2 digits, tells the approximate time frame. Go Texas
My Middle Name Is David
October 27th, 2010
8:41 pm
i did click the link. The fed is satan.
Doggone/GA
October 27th, 2010
8:43 pm
“Unless you think it to be OK for all??”
If they are canvassing for their legally eligible neighbors and relatvies to get out and vote…why would I object? Isn’t voter apathy a bit problem in this country? so why would I object to anyone wanting more people to vote? THEY are not voting, THEY are not trying to force/coerce anyone into voting a particular way. Heck, I don’t even have a problem with them say “get out and vote, and vote for Joe Smith” – they can mention a particular candidate all they want, they aren’t forcing anyone to vote for him. Just suggesting it. Just as do any other electioneers. No difference.
Doggone/GA
October 27th, 2010
8:44 pm
“It’s a simple question, with all due respect. Why is the government required by law to produce gold and silver coins?”
Here’s a counter question: why do you object to it?
AmVet
October 27th, 2010
8:44 pm
Back from the gym!
Back from work! So you do admit there is fraud but you downplay it as ho-hum no big deal. I wonder why ?
Perhaps because you have a problem with understanding standard written English?
It is important?
Yes. The integrity of our elections is very important.
Is it ANYWHERE near the level that the fear-mongers and the hyper-partisans scream about?
Of course not.
And you still have not presented the first speck of data to prove your patently absurd claim – “Of course Jay is going to say there is no fraud since in about all the cases it’s the libs that are doing it!!”
Nothing? Zero? Not even a feeble try? I have to presume that you simply are not able. So you just state obvious nonsense as fact and when asked to corroborate it answer with other questions.
Why is that?
Mr Right, I humbly submit that you should change your name to Mr Unfounded Assertions…
Kamchak
October 27th, 2010
8:45 pm
Ok Kamchack…. Then we shouldn’t do nuthin’ Eff it.
Wow.
Drama queen much?
You were making an absolutist argument that some kind of “fool proof” ID would solve all problems involving identity, and I was merely pointing out that every time someone comes out with a “fool proof” ID, it is almost immediately faked.
DebbieDoRight
October 27th, 2010
8:45 pm
Frog: If you think the enlisted oath of office is BS, how can you possibly be an officer of the court?
AGAIN….. “Sorry I should’ve made myself clearer. I was not adverse to his saying how and why he/others served, I was pizzed because he inferred that my father didn’t “train” me or something. Like I’m a dog!! ”
(Your psychic abilities are lacking again as I am probably more liberal than anyone you know and have been since I was 55 or maybe before.
First it depends on your definition of “liberal”. But then again, I might not want to hear it….
As in the training of children, discipline and respect do not constitute abuse, spousal or otherwise. I don’t do tantrums but arguments with professional forked tongues do stimulate my verbiage.
My point BF was that the last “fight for my freedom” was during WWII and not any of the wars fought by the u.S. afterwards. I’m typing and taking care of the baby and doing a little research on the side (too woo josef), so if I’ve offended your service and your sensibility that was not my intention. Now offending YOu on the other hand…….
josef nix
October 27th, 2010
8:48 pm
Doggone
@ 8:37
Point taken. I wasn’t assuming that you were making that point, but just that in his statements, USMC did make the point that these were people that he did have personal contact with….and I agree with you entirely that the “illegals” have every right to lobby their case…as do we all, it’s the American way…
DDR
“Sometimes, I feel discriminated against, but it does not make me angry. It merely astonishes me. How can any deny themselves the pleasure of my company? It’s beyond me.” Zora Neal Hurston
Doggone/GA
October 27th, 2010
8:49 pm
“as do we all, it’s the American way…”
Exactly!
Paulo977
October 27th, 2010
8:50 pm
Doggone
5:29pm
re: Stomping ..Someone here on a post actually stated that the young woman should have been kicked harder!!!!! OMG how low have we sunk?
Doggone/GA
October 27th, 2010
8:52 pm
“It merely astonishes me.”
I have the same reaction. When I was looking for my first full-sized van, I knew exactly what I wanted for me and my dogs. I went to one dealer and told the saleman exactly what I was looking for and he looked me right in the eye and said “Why would a woman need a van like that?”
When I picked my jaw up off the floor, I just turned around and left.
barking frog
October 27th, 2010
8:53 pm
DebbieDoRight
October 27th, 2010
8:38 pm
I was pizzed because he inferred that my father didn’t “train” me or something. Like I’m a dog!!
——————————————————–
I IMPLIED that your training in respect and discipline was lacking,
possibly due to your Father attending to his duties as a soldier, You
INFERRED that made you like a dog and INFERRED that your ex-
marine husband could not instill any respect or discipline without
being abusive, which is totally incorrect. Welcome to blog court.
Doggone/GA
October 27th, 2010
8:53 pm
“OMG how low have we sunk?”
It’s really getting scary isn’t it?
My Middle Name Is David
October 27th, 2010
8:54 pm
Kamchack – sarcasm.
Dog – I believe in the rule of “lawful money”. I don’t object to it. I want it to be the law of the land again.
Governments can’t print precious metals. This is why economies have moved away from them in the last 100 years. They can spend and twist the numbers when they don’t have to back their sh*t up with wealth.
Fiat currencies are a ponzi scheme and gold is way too high at $1400… It’s a bubble.
Reality should be 800-900 per oz.
Doggone/GA
October 27th, 2010
8:57 pm
“I don’t object to it”
Hate to break it to you, but if you don’t think it’s “lawful” money – you DO object to it.
My Middle Name Is David
October 27th, 2010
8:59 pm
huh?
Gold and silver coin are Lawful Money. A Federal Reserve Note is not.
Am I wrong?
barking frog
October 27th, 2010
8:59 pm
DebbieDoRight
October 27th, 2010
8:45 pm
My point BF was that the last “fight for my freedom” was during WWII and not any of the wars fought by the u.S. afterwards. I’m typing and taking care of the baby and doing a little research on the side (too woo josef), so if I’ve offended your service and your sensibility that was not my intention. Now offending YOu on the other hand…….
————————————————————————————-
To the soldiers all the wars are ‘defending the Constitution’,
certainly not for the money or the glory, as to offending ‘me’
you should remember that you are talking to a FROG….
Del
October 27th, 2010
8:59 pm
Nolan Ryan looks just as intimidating sitting in the stands as he did on the mound. Gnight y’all
My Middle Name Is David
October 27th, 2010
9:00 pm
Vote Early and Vote Often
Scott
October 27th, 2010
9:02 pm
Just look at the last Senate election in Minnesota and then tell me if Republicans are over reacting….AL Franken is now a sitting US senator because of voter fraud and if you think he is the only one then I have a bridge to sell in lower manhattan
DebbieDoRight
October 27th, 2010
9:03 pm
oh josef you quoted Zora!!! I LOVE her!! The only woman I love more than Zora is Tallulah Bankhead! I like strong women with strong minds and a strong sex appeal. Who aren’t afraid of who they are, heck the GLORY in it!!
josef, what-iz-face will never appreciate you like i do. He’s just using you for your body……..I’d use you for your body too, but I’d also use you for your mind……….(at least 3x’s a night!! )
Doggone/GA
October 27th, 2010
9:04 pm
“AL Franken is now a sitting US senator because of voter fraud ”
If you’ve got proof of that, why haven’t you presented it to the court that investigated that election?
Answer: because it’s a lie
Kamchak
October 27th, 2010
9:05 pm
Gotta share this off topic email I just got (apologies if you’ve seen it before)
(1) What does the average University of GEORGIA player get on his SATs?
……..Drool.
(2) What do you get when you put 32 SOUTH CAROLINA cheerleaders in one room?
……..A full set of teeth.
(3) How do you get an ARKANSAS cheerleader into your dorm room?
……..Grease her hips and push.
(4) How do you get an FLORIDA graduate off your porch?
………Pay him for the pizza.
(5) How do you know if an ALABAMA football player has a girlfriend?
……There is tobacco spit on both sides of his pickup.
(6) Why is the Kentucky football team like a possum?
….Because they play dead at home and get killed on the road.
(7) What are the longest three years of a AUBURN football players life?
……..His freshman year.
(8) How many VANDERBILT freshmen does it take to change a light bulb?
……..None. That’s a sophomore course.
(9) Where was O. J. Headed in the white Bronco?
……. STARKVILLE , MISSISSIPPI . He knew that the police would never look at MISS STATE for a Heisman Trophy winner.
AND FINALLY
(10) Why did TENNESSEE choose Orange as their team color?
……..You can wear it to the game on Saturday, hunting on Sunday, and picking up trash along the highways the rest of the week.
@@
October 27th, 2010
9:07 pm
Delayed response here. My husband’s been schoolin’ me on the drum saw and band sander. I’m (we’re) making a dining room table.
saywhat:
Say whaaaat!!??!!
@@ disagrees with this conclusion, and continues to purport widespread fraud by Democratic voters and organizations……..blah, blah, blah
I think I mentioned one proven case of voter fraud back in 1993. I then went on to the in sending out absentee ballots to our military overseas.
To @@ , this somehow constitutes “proof” that the “widespread fraud” was going on all along, just as she thought, and Jay was way over the line to say otherwise
I was teasing, jay so you can give him back his pants now. They’re too big for you…’ya little pip sqe-e-a-a-k.
That ^^^ was fun.
‘Scuse me, I’ve got wood waiting.
My Middle Name Is David
October 27th, 2010
9:08 pm
LOL !
Kamchack — blaspheme
@@
October 27th, 2010
9:08 pm
Oops!
Make that BAND saw and DRUM sander.
My Middle Name Is David
October 27th, 2010
9:11 pm
I hope John Monds forces a runoff between Sleeaze Purveyor and The Other Guy.
@@
October 27th, 2010
9:16 pm
Kamchak:
I think I mentioned one proven case of voter fraud back in 1993. I then went on to the in sending out absentee ballots to our military overseas.
Fix ^^^ that typo.
I LOVE power tools. Blogging? Not so much.
josef nix
October 27th, 2010
9:19 pm
Scott
Franken gets on my last gay nerve, jus’ sayin’…
DDR
It WAS the body that first night, then he found out I had a mind…imagine the poor boy’s surprise! Have to admit, that WAS a two-way street…! Ah, but that was then, this is now!
And Tallulah! To Dorothy Parker who had said of her on hearing that Talu had broken her leg in London, “doubtlessly sliding down a barrister,” being introduced to Dorothy at a party, “they tell me you’re a wit, Dahling. Say something funny!”
Kamchak
October 27th, 2010
9:20 pm
Kamchak:
I think I mentioned one proven case of voter fraud back in 1993. I then went on to the in sending out absentee ballots to our military overseas.
Fix ^^^ that typo.
Huh?
josef nix
October 27th, 2010
9:20 pm
David
Monds has got my vote!
Mick
October 27th, 2010
9:26 pm
scout
Ever notice that not all people depend on a weapon to define their manhood. One thing is for sure; one can practically have a weapon at their disposal most times but the true warrior has his wits ALL the time.
DebbieDoRight
October 27th, 2010
9:31 pm
BF: I IMPLIED that your training in respect and discipline was lacking, possibly due to your Father attending to his duties as a soldier
Then You are wrong.
INFERRED that made you like a dog and INFERRED that your ex- marine husband could not instill any respect or discipline without being abusive, which is totally incorrect. Welcome to blog court.
BF I was being “legally” by taking the words said by you out of context and making a case with them. Welcome to the Blog world.
josef; I have to go and lay the baby down, (past her bedtime and her moms will be really angry when they get home and see that I’m still playing with the baby), however, I want to leave you with this one quote – it’s from one of my favorite plays and I know with your big uuummmm brains, you’ll know exactly where it’s from:
Whoever you are, I have always depended on the kindness of strangers.
PS: I’m trying to woo you away from whats-iz-face with my literary knowledge……..is it working?
My Middle Name Is David
October 27th, 2010
9:32 pm
I live in Cobb County. I voted early. The line was 20-30 people and it was out the door. The line moved quickly. I filled out the sheet, presented my drivers license, got verified via some poll worker typing on her laptop. She gave me my card and it took maybe 2-3 minutes and I got my station.
I’ve never seen so many (L) candidates.
The Amendments and Judges part is what’s so hard to understand.
Why is it so difficult to find out what we’re being asked to vote for or against?
ken R
October 27th, 2010
9:33 pm
Jay, I would like to respond to voter fraud but I don’t have the time to read the 2,980,000 hits that Yahoo came up with, SORRY.
I’m sure that there isn’t one voter fraud in there, nah, nope, uh uh, never, can’t happen, never, I had to stop because I almost peed my pants.
RW-(the original)
October 27th, 2010
9:36 pm
“I can tell you categorically that this is not a statement of regret for having created the Federal Reserve. Wilson never had any regrets for having done that. It was an accomplishment in which he took great pride.”
My Middle Name Is David
October 27th, 2010
9:40 pm
RW – Are you a Bilderberg Meeting Planner?
Sunlight is the best disinfectant.
AUDIT THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM EVERY THREE YEARS !
barking frog
October 27th, 2010
9:41 pm
DDR 9:31 Apology accepted..STELLLAA!!!
josef nix
October 27th, 2010
9:41 pm
DDR
Lay the baby down? Perish the thought. Give her chocloate ice cream and let her roll around! It’s a blessing to send her home happy! The moms can just eat. well you know what! And you can tell them that years from now, it’ll be YOU she remembers with love and affection! And tell them I said, it’s YOUR job to spoil her rotten!
And, in case you may have missed it, I reject the Blanche du Bois syndrome!
Had a very interesting discussion with the author of that quote…
@@
October 27th, 2010
9:43 pm
Kamchak:
Huh?
You like to fix typos. I made one just for you.
See….I do care.
Scout
October 27th, 2010
9:44 pm
Mick:
“Ever notice that not all people depend on a weapon to define their manhood. One thing is for sure; one can practically have a weapon at their disposal most times but the true warrior has his wits ALL the time.”
I don’t think you read the article carefully.
I say again, the “gun” is what has allowed you the opportunity to define your manhood any way you like and to use your “wits” to solve problems that can be solved that way.
Sheep, wolves and sheepdogs. I choose to be a sheepdog. You are free to choose also.
AmVet
October 27th, 2010
9:45 pm
The charge that liberal groups are trying to steal elections through MASSIVE voter fraud has become an integral part of the conservative belief system. I used to think it was just a claim they used in a cynical effort to gain political advantage, and maybe that’s all it was in the beginning. But at this point, the charge is fully and sincerely believed by millions, and they are acting on that sincere belief.
Yet, there is no factual evidence whatsoever to sustain that claim. For eight years, the Bush Department of Justice tried very, very hard to come up with evidence of such a conspiracy. They even pushed good, conservative, effective federal prosecutors out of their jobs because those prosecutors were allegedly lax in pursuing such cases.
But eight years of effort and investigation produced nothing. In the end, they found no proof whatsoever of any conspiracy to commit LARGE-SCALE voting fraud. Zero, nada, zilch.
Given that context, your canard “that there isn’t one voter fraud in there, nah, nope, uh uh, never, can’t happen, never…” is a pant soaker itself…
RW-(the original)
October 27th, 2010
9:45 pm
______ David ______
Trust me, I’m no Wilson fan.
josef nix
October 27th, 2010
9:46 pm
Scout
“This is my rifle. This is my gun. This one’s for shooting. This one is for fun.”
josef nix
October 27th, 2010
9:48 pm
RW
There you are! But Jackson….?
barking frog
October 27th, 2010
9:50 pm
A witty warrior with weapon presents powerful people impediment
to imperialism.
RW-(the original)
October 27th, 2010
9:53 pm
josef,
That phony Wilson quote about him actually realizing his part in the downfall of our country went up like a beacon for some reason.
/Dude could have saved us a lot of grief if he didn’t think segregation was such a wonderful thing for us too.
Mick
October 27th, 2010
9:53 pm
scout
You can be one cool customer…..however, why limit yourself to only three options?
josef
You are rockin n rollin as usual; is it some kind of recycled energy you get from those wipper snappers?
barking frog
October 27th, 2010
9:53 pm
josef 9:46 The USAF only allowed you to have the fun gun. Rifles
on the shooting range only.
Scout
October 27th, 2010
10:00 pm
“In a case that largely has been ignored by the mainstream media, a federal appeals court has upheld the decision of a Texas school district to punish a cheerleader for refusing to cheer for a player who pleaded guilty to attacking her.”
We have lost our minds.
josef nix
October 27th, 2010
10:02 pm
RW
Well, “the Supreme Court ruled, let’s see them enforce it!”
Truth be told, though, both were, tally taken, sob’s….
barking frog
@ 9:53
Mick
To tell the truth, it is! They are the joy of my life and a good day with them is a good day! Love the lil bastids! They had their Hallowe’en Dance today…watching the boys watch the girls watch the boys watching them and then, that shy, sweet and magic moment of asking to dance….life is good!
josef nix
October 27th, 2010
10:05 pm
Scout
Give THAT one a high five and a you tell ‘em, Girl!
Scout
October 27th, 2010
10:05 pm
Mick:
“You can be one cool customer…..however, why limit yourself to only three options?”
Because the author of the concept did.
http://www.policeone.com/police-heroes/articles/1709289-Book-Excerpt-On-Sheep-Wolves-and-Sheepdogs/
My Middle Name Is David
October 27th, 2010
10:06 pm
Joy Behar saying, “Come to NY Biatch, blah, blah..”
I guess Sharon Angle is giving her national heartburn.
Obviously Joy holds the moral high ground.
The View is irrelevant unless a host walks off the set… If Whoopie, Joy, Barbara and the others think they’re shaping the dialog in America they should understand their viewers also know when Springer comes on and they got turned down by Ken Nugent for their makebelieve legal gripe.
New Mission Statement for NPR:
NO STATE SPONSORED MEDIA WHATSOEVER EXCEPT FOR WEATHER, OFFICIAL, HIGH-LEVEL, GOVERNMENT PRESS CONFERENCES AND COMMERCIAL FREE MUSIC. NO OPINIONS OR POLITICS.
Scout
October 27th, 2010
10:07 pm
josef:
“This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. My rifle, without me, is useless. Without my rifle, I am useless. I must fire my rifle true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will…
My rifle and myself know that what counts in this war is not the rounds we fire, the noise of our burst, nor the smoke we make. We know that it is the hits that count. We will hit…
My rifle is human, even as I, because it is my life. Thus, I will learn it as a brother. I will learn its weaknesses, its strength, its parts, its accessories, its sights and its barrel. I will ever guard it against the ravages of weather and damage as I will ever guard my legs, my arms, my eyes and my heart against damage. I will keep my rifle clean and ready. We will become part of each other. We will…
Before God, I swear this creed. My rifle and myself are the defenders of my country. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviors of my life. So be it, until victory is America’s and there is no enemy, but peace!”
barking frog
October 27th, 2010
10:09 pm
Scout 10:00 If my little girl I would pick wolf.
Doggone/GA
October 27th, 2010
10:11 pm
“Give THAT one a high five and a you tell ‘em, Girl!”
but isn’t this a case like the one in KY? The girl made a choice and suffered the consequences? Isn’t that the justification that has been offered as a defense for the men who attacked her?
I mean, after all, this girl agreed to cheer for the school and the team, that guy was a team member. If she couldn’t fulfill her obligations, then she should have been prepared to suffer the consequences. Gee, now it’s beginning to sound like the Williams “case” too.
It’s all a conspiracy I tell you!
StJ
October 27th, 2010
10:13 pm
“Yet, there is no factual evidence whatsoever to sustain that claim.”
Yeah, I don’t suppose thousands of felons participating in the 2008 elections in Minnesota constitutes election fraud. Nor the refusal by the government to investigate and prosecute the vast majority of the offenders despite having a mountain of evidence handed to them by a watchdog group (MinnesotaMajority.org).
So, out of the thousands of felon voters in only 2 [urban] counties, a handful were prosecuted and the sentences levied on those convicted were reduced to the proverbial slap on the wrist.
But yet, no factual evidence of any kind whatsoever. Somebody pass the kool-aid.
Scout
October 27th, 2010
10:17 pm
barking frog:
I hear you loud and clear.
Doggone/GA
October 27th, 2010
10:17 pm
“I don’t suppose thousands of felons participating in the 2008 elections in Minnesota constitutes election fraud”
Since it didn’t happen, not it wasn’t election fraud. If you have proof it DID happen, why did you not present it to the investigating court? Witholding evidence is a crime you know.
josef nix
October 27th, 2010
10:19 pm
Scout
As you well know, I have a certain affinity for the Second Amendment…IMHO, THE most liberal of the amendments!
barking frog
October 27th, 2010
10:23 pm
Josef 10:19 It is amazing the amount of bluster a bully
loses when you shoot him.
My Middle Name Is David
October 27th, 2010
10:23 pm
Can a felon vote in Georgia?
Many people have been told that if they were convicted of a felony they could never vote again. This is not true.
Georgia law allows a person who has completed their sentence, (including any fines, parole or probation) to immediately re-register. There is no waiting period, special application or other process.
All a person needs to do is re-register.
That’s good news, so help spread the word!
RW-(the original)
October 27th, 2010
10:24 pm
The newest member of the Supreme Court is in the minority in backing a stay of execution over questions about the safety of a drug to be used in a lethal injection
By all means let’s make sure that the drug being used to kill the person is also safe for them.
/sarc
My prayers go out for the good health and desire to stay on the job for at least two more years on behalf of the sane members of SCOTUS.
Scout
October 27th, 2010
10:25 pm
josef nix:
…………. and the one that makes the others worth something other than just mere words.
josef nix
October 27th, 2010
10:25 pm
Doggone
Be that as it may, that’s MY girl! Take your stand and the consequences be d*mned! There’s right and there’s wrong…
My Middle Name Is David
October 27th, 2010
10:26 pm
Yes…. even a murderer can vote again as long as they finished their “whatevers”.
A killer’s vote should count too.
RW-(the original)
October 27th, 2010
10:26 pm
Oops…
Forgot the link
Dave R.
October 27th, 2010
10:26 pm
Actually, Doggone, over 350 convicted felons DID vote illegally in MN during the 2008 election. Seems that number was just enough to elect Sen. Stuart Smiley by less than 300 votes.
Oops!
Seems local authorities don’t think it is important enough to prosecute those who allowed that little whoopsie to happen. I wonder why . . .
Scout
October 27th, 2010
10:27 pm
RW-(the original)
I mentioned that earlier today. Is that absurd or what?
RW-(the original)
October 27th, 2010
10:29 pm
Scout,
I don’t have a problem if someone wants to take an honest stance against capital punishment, but skirting around it with idiotic rulings like this is absurd and it was 5-4 again. That’s just unfathomable.
Doggone/GA
October 27th, 2010
10:32 pm
“There’s right and there’s wrong…”
Yes, there is…and she was a part of a squad, who was even going to notice in the noise and excitemen of a game if ONE member of that squad wasn’t saying one players name?
josef nix
October 27th, 2010
10:35 pm
RW
@ 10:24
And there is that….
Scout
So many people don’t understand WHY that amendment is there…My fellow liberals sometimes just don’t get it…an armed populace is what brought this country into being…
Doggone/GA
October 27th, 2010
10:36 pm
“Seems that number was just enough to elect Sen. Stuart Smiley by less than 300 votes”
It seems you are wrong. Education is a wonderful thing, you should look into it:
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/feature/2010/07/19/coleman_franken_recount
AmVet
October 27th, 2010
10:37 pm
Amazing, people are still b!tching about Coleman losing that election?
It reminds me of the Gore crybabies in 2000…
barking frog
October 27th, 2010
10:37 pm
Scout, RW- To justify an absurdity you must be absurd in the details.
@@
October 27th, 2010
10:38 pm
Well, in my opinion, President Obama didn’t do too well in his meet and greet with Stewart. Just read some snippets from the show.
The president made a point of defending his push for health care reform and efforts to stimulate the economy, saying it is his hope that fellow Democrats will be rewarded in the coming election for standing up for their beliefs.
He’s the only one left with any HOPE.
The president referring to the upcoming “Rally to Restore Sanity” then joked with Stewart saying, “The one thing that might have made a difference is if you held a ‘Rally to Restore Sanity’ two years ago.
No joke!!!!
Hindsight will prove invaluable come Nov. 2nd.
2012
October 27th, 2010
10:41 pm
Obama can’t go to the center.
If the Repubs win big then what?
Us dang Tea Party people ain’t gonna vaporize. Tuesday, Nov 2nd is only the beginning.
#1 – Constitutional Amendment requiring Term Limits for all members of Congress
#2 – Constitutional Amendment requiring a Balanced Federal Budget every year, no excuses.
#3 – Repeal the 16th Amendment (Income Tax) and replace it with a Flat Tax or Fair Tax, a National Lottery and massive consumption taxes on alcohol, tobacco and marijuana.
#4 – Congress must repeal The War Powers Act. This law allows the POTUS to start wars without an official Declaration of War. Congress granted it and they can take it back. Get it done.
#5 – A thoroughly independent, comprehensive, unrestricted and mandatory audit of The Federal Reserve System every three years.
#6 — Seal the borders asap and protect American citizens from the drug cartels and others who move freely across our lines.
#7 — No funding whatsoever for Obamacare.
#8 — A thoroughly independent, comprehensive, unrestricted and mandatory audit of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac every three years.
#9 — 10%, across the board, spending cuts for every government office and function including the Defense Department and all government entitlements, no exceptions whatsoever.
#10 — Follow steps one through nine.
Dave R.
October 27th, 2010
10:42 pm
Doggone, it seems as if you cannot count. Or add or subtract for that matter. Consult your dogs please. They probably can do so better than you.
The report states that 341 felons voted illegally. Stuart Smiley won by 312 votes.
I know logic escapes you, but numbers as well?
josef nix
October 27th, 2010
10:43 pm
Doggone
And I would posit that this is a demand to conform to the “group think” mentality. I am all for “team spiirir” and all that, buf…there comes a point….obviously, somebody noticed, Why?
@@
October 27th, 2010
10:45 pm
josef’s drinking.
(ISH)
Dave R.
October 27th, 2010
10:45 pm
Oh, and let’s not forget the state of Illinois, who had over 7 months in which to produce and send out absentee ballots to servicemen and women serving overseas, and failed to do so.
Nothing to see here, folks, just move along . . .
Election fraud wears many masks.
barking frog
October 27th, 2010
10:48 pm
Dave R 10:42 Should Smiley have won by 653 votes?