Peering inside the right-wing apparatus

Operationally, you have to be impressed by the conservative movement’s message discipline and ideological control. Here’s one interesting way that’s achieved.

With a Republican takeover of the House quite likely, new conservative politicians will be coming to Washington looking to hire staff. So the House Republican Study Committee, headed by U.S. Rep. Tom Price of Georgia, recently sent out an email advising job hopefuls how to proceed. According to Roll Call, the email strongly encourages applicants for House jobs “to submit your résumé and complete the ideological questionnaires at the following two websites.”

The two sites listed are a job bank for conservatives run by the private Heritage Foundation, and a similar operation at conservativejobs.com. Both sites appear to serve as clearinghouses for conservatives seeking employment within the right-wing establishment.

At the Heritage site, applicants are asked where in the movement they seek to be placed: In academia? On congressional staff? As a lobbyist? In a faith-based group or think tank?

Then, in addition to standard questions such as job experience, education, etc., applicants are asked a series of ideological questions designed to test their unswerving loyalty.

For example, they are asked if they agree or disagree with a series of policy statements, such as:

  • “The education industry should be opened to increased competition through vouchers or tax credits for private schools.”
  • “People should be able to invest a portion of their Social Security payments in a personal account.”
  • “The U.S. needs nationalized health care.”

In addition to questions such as “name your personal hero/heroine” (the correct answer is surely “Ronald Reagan”), applicants are then asked for reactions to a list of organizations and individuals:

jobbank

At conservativejobs.com, the positions available include a job at the Koch Foundation in Arlington, Va., a development officer at the Bill of Rights Institute, and a systems administrator for “Western Senator.” And the system used to vet candidates for those jobs is similar to that at the Heritage Foundation.

On a scale of 1 to 5, applicants are asked to rate their agreement with a long list of statements, including:

  • “Homosexual activity should be incompatible with service in the U.S. military forces.”
  • “The U.S. should get approval from the United Nations before engaging in any military action abroad.”
  • “Political action committees should be further regulated so they cannot abuse our election process.”
  • “Employers should be allowed to replace striking workers permanently with new employees.”
  • “America is a land of many cultures, therefore no mandated preference for one language over another is acceptable.”

As Roll Call reports:

Mike Gonzalez, Heritage’s vice president of communications, said the service has helped place “good conservative staffers” in congressional offices for years.

“There is obviously a lot of interest by conservative groups in finding and placing good conservative staffers in potentially new positions,” he wrote in an e-mail. “ Heritage has a full time employee running our job bank and it has been finding and vetting good conservatives for years — we place around 100 people per year and have numerous congressional offices every year seek out potential employees.”

The clear intent and effect of such a system is to discourage thinking outside the box and painting outside the lines. In the long run, such enforced uniformity is probably harmful — to both conservatives and by extension the country — because new ideas and ways of thinking are effectively squashed.

But in the short term, the message discipline is highly effective.

(H/t to Steve Benen at Political Animal)

315 comments Add your comment

Normal

October 27th, 2010
9:54 am

I hate to say this, that sounds amazingly fascist. Lock step, no individualism, no freedom of thought. adhere to the “State” idealogy…Wow!

RW-(the original)

October 27th, 2010
9:55 am

Paul

October 27th, 2010
9:55 am

“Effective” does not equal “good.”

Heard a pundit the other day make an interesting point. Said the TP movement – not party – began and was derided by Democrats. Republicans forged an alliance (and lost some of their mainstream candidates in the primaries). Point was, if that alliance had not taken place, if there were more third party candidates, Republican leads, even in races that aren’t all that close, just might not be there.

The previous column – Reps may have alienated Latinos, but Dems sure alienated a whole lot of independents who were concerned only with one or two fiscal issues.

So now we get even not so extreme Republican politicians moving right – just to keep their jobs. Coups usually get done by a small, dedicated, minority.

Doggone/GA

October 27th, 2010
9:58 am

“While we’re at it”…

Would you care to quote anything from that document that even APPROACHES the ideological bent of the ones that Jay has posted?

mystified

October 27th, 2010
9:58 am

So I guess the republicans would be better people if they hired some democrats to work on their staff.

They don’t need diversity of opinion in their office. They have the national press who is guaranteed to to support whatever republicans don’t.

Paul

October 27th, 2010
9:58 am

RW-(the original)

Well, here’s hoping the Republicans’ quest for purity works out as well as the Democrats’ quest -

Jay

October 27th, 2010
9:59 am

Not sure what point that makes, RW. There’s not a hint of ideological enforcement in that Obama document, just standard background stuff. In fact, it drives home just how different the GOP approach is.

USinUK

October 27th, 2010
10:00 am

RW – … and your point? show me one thing that is anywhere NEAR an idiological purity test in that questionnaire?

USinUK

October 27th, 2010
10:00 am

dammit. I owe Jay a coke.

NowReally

October 27th, 2010
10:00 am

Wow, we are clearly dealing with a group of nutcases. Whatever happened to individuality? They are clearly of the group think mentality. I’ve known for a while that this country is in serious trouble and we haven’t seen anything yet.

When Bush stated you are either with us or against us, I knew it was over.

mystified

October 27th, 2010
10:00 am

In fairness, the republicans don’t have fine upstanding organizations like ACORN to pull it’s applicants from.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

October 27th, 2010
10:02 am

Well, I see the GA Board of Regents is finally doing something about the terrible discrimination against dummies in our state colledges. They say that only 60% graduating ain’t good enough. They want more degrees handed out. I say good for them. I never made it out of 5th grade myself, but I still want a colledge degree. Maybe a PhD. Dr. Convert—it’s got a nice ring to it. I pay taxes to support the colledges and I don’t see why I can’t have a degree for it. If our lower schools can have Social Promotion and give out grades that don’t mean much, I don’t see why our colledges can’t. I told you all that getting Republicans to run this state would help us all out big-time.

Anyway, Bookman oughtn’t to be writing about my apparatus. That’s a private matter for good straight folks. But if a good Conservative can’t pass that test, he’s got no business working anyplace. The right answer to most anything is No, No, No.

I got to admit I’m kind of down this a.m. The polls show my favorite right-wing politican, Rep. Jim Marshall, is down over 10 pts. to his Republican opponent. Even calling Nancy Pelosi a scum-bag hasn’t helped him. Far as I’m concerned, he’s the best Republican GA ever had, even if he does disguise it with a big D after his name. He’s voted with the Republicans 99% of the time and they still want to throw him out of office. I just don’t understand it.

Have a good day everybody.

Doggone/GA

October 27th, 2010
10:03 am

“dammit. I owe Jay a coke”

And you owe ME a Mountain Dew!

Jimmy62

October 27th, 2010
10:04 am

Haha, it’s hilarious when you post stuff like that. Especially when just a week ago a prominent liberal lost his job on NPR for daring to say something that didn’t meet the approval of the left. He stepped outside of your groupthink and got punished for it.

NPR is a much bigger deal then the Heritage Foundation, and uses far, far larger amounts of taxpayer dollars.

RW-(the original)

October 27th, 2010
10:04 am

The ideological bent that Jay posted is meaningless unless you can also substantiate the scoring of the application. Without that you only have his interpretation that one must answer only with the farthest right answers to be considered. That may or may not be the case.

And if you can’t see the purity test in the Obama application then you’re really beyond help.

mystified

October 27th, 2010
10:04 am

Now we know. Democrats are unfairly discriminated against because they can’t get jobs on republican staffs. It’s just a matter of time before the ACLU files a law suit and every republican congressman or senator is mandated to have at least one card carrying democrat on his or her inner staff. Oh the humanity.

USinUK

October 27th, 2010
10:04 am

Doggone – :-) as long as it’s not a TAB … blech

USinUK

October 27th, 2010
10:05 am

“And if you can’t see the purity test in the Obama application then you’re really beyond help.”

point it out. tell us the questions that are beyond the purity pale.

JohnnyReb

October 27th, 2010
10:05 am

Jay, one can only guess the statement “discourage thinking outside the box” really means to learn to think Progressive! No thanks.

Politics is not Sunday School where you learn to appreciate and love everyone. For most purposes, it is war short of physically killing someone. You don’t invite the enemy into the camp unless you intend to compromise your principles.

Conservatives believe there has been too much compromise already.

mystified

October 27th, 2010
10:05 am

Great point Jimmy62. That was a great example of just how big their tent is.

Doggone/GA

October 27th, 2010
10:06 am

“blech”

blech indeed!

Mick

October 27th, 2010
10:07 am

I keep hearing how we are a center right country but this is an example of a party where there is no center allowed. Good for them, it is who they are now. I’m hoping that this has been a costly blip in the scheme of american politics. The republican party cannot sustain itself by tax cuts alone. I’m hoping the day of reckoning comes sooner rather than later but surely it will come as our population and cultural mix heads steadily to the center.

Jay

October 27th, 2010
10:07 am

Well, RW, enlighten us.

Quote from the document you cited — as I have done from the conservative sites — demonstrating how it is attempting to create ideological uniformity.

Doggone/GA

October 27th, 2010
10:07 am

“And if you can’t see the purity test in the Obama application then you’re really beyond help”

Couldn’t find any to quote, huh?

USinUK

October 27th, 2010
10:07 am

“lost his job on NPR for daring to say something that didn’t meet the approval of the left”

no. he lost his job because he broke his contract of employment.

nice try.

epic flail.

USinUK

October 27th, 2010
10:08 am

ladies and gentlemen … for your consideration … the problem with America today in one simple sentence:

“For most purposes, (politics) is war short of physically killing someone”

larry

October 27th, 2010
10:09 am

I wonder what would happen if you lied on the application. I mean a congressional staffter pays pretty well dont it ?

mystified

October 27th, 2010
10:09 am

I find it humorous how many of you liberal bloggers have convinced yourself that the swing to the right in this election is a good thing for democrats. That in some way, it’s not a condemnation that you aren’t nearly as main stream as you think you are. That America saw your ideas and said “No”.

USinUK

October 27th, 2010
10:09 am

No, JohnnyReb, politics is NOT war or anything like it. Politics is supposed to be about finding the best way to serve the American people – not the best way to defeat your enemy.

Paul

October 27th, 2010
10:10 am

USinUK

“as long as it’s not a TAB … blech”

Tab? I think I read about that in a ‘Cultural History of the US” course. Then there was that strange “Tab” reference in one of those “Back to the Future” movies.

:-)

Off topic

Jay

Just returned from southern Cal. In one affluent community I saw several major building projects – a swath of buildings continuously extending across hillsides. I asked an investment advisor what they were. He said ‘apartments. There’s a deluge of foreclosures coming and some have bet on apartment construction.

I wonder how the majority Party of Purity’s gonna handle that one -

NowReally

October 27th, 2010
10:11 am

RW-(the original)

October 27th, 2010
10:04 am

There was nothing in the document asking about gay rights, civil rights, healthcare, education, immigration, taxes, abortions or anything else you people deem liberal ideology such as, entitlements. So, what’s your point?

JohnnyReb

October 27th, 2010
10:11 am

USinUK@10:07 – Willimas was canned by NPR because he does not meet their Progressive purity test, not to mention that Soros just made his first downpayment to buy their soul. I hope Williams sues them; they will loose their a$$ big time. They broke every decent rule of employment termination, including canning the only black analyst on their payroll. My crystal ball shows the beginning of the end for their management group.

mystified

October 27th, 2010
10:12 am

USinUK. What world do you live in? Do you know nothing of history or politics?

RW-(the original)

October 27th, 2010
10:13 am

Jay B and USinUK,

I can only approximate what I think the answers to the questions on Obama’s application would do to your chances of getting a job which is exactly the same as what you’re doing with this Republican application.

I will allow that they didn’t follow it very well since the administration is crawling with tax cheats.

USinUK

October 27th, 2010
10:13 am

JohnnyReb – if that was the case, he would have been canned long ago for his work at FOX (his appearances there weren’t exactly NEW) …

… as far as your crystal ball goes, if I were you, I wouldn’t rely on it to make any bets on horse races … the right has been predicting the demise of NPR since the 1980s … it wasn’t gone then, it isn’t gone now and it’s not going anywhere anytime soon …

JohnnyReb

October 27th, 2010
10:14 am

UsinUK@10:09 – re, politics is suppose to find the best way to serve the people. Agreed, but we don’t agree on how to do that. From my viewpoint, eliminating Progressive laws and ideology is the ticket.

Doggone/GA

October 27th, 2010
10:14 am

“I can only approximate what I think the answers to the questions on Obama’s application would do to your chances of getting a job”

We accept your apology

JohnnyReb

October 27th, 2010
10:16 am

USinUK, re my crystal ball. I did not state the demise of NPR, but instead their management group.

USinUK

October 27th, 2010
10:16 am

mystified – I know that St. Ronnie used to meet and have drinks with Tip O’Neil at the WH … that there was a time when the GOP and the Dems could and did actually work together.

in JohnnyReb’s structure, the American population are bodies caught in the crossfire, so much collateral damage.

thomas

October 27th, 2010
10:16 am

USinUK

October 27th, 2010
10:07 am

Have others not broke their contractual agreement as well?

There have been other commentators and even host on NPR shows that have given and made controversial OPINION statements. But those employees were not fired.

In each case the opinion being given was one that would be considered a left leaning view.

Do you see why people could be of the opinion that Juan Williams was fired not for giving his opinion but because it didn’t fall into the appropriate side of opinions?

Or do you not consider this statement to be one of opinion…..

“The evaporation of 4 million who believe this crap would leave the world an instantly better place.”

USinUK

October 27th, 2010
10:17 am

“I can only approximate what I think the answers to the questions on Obama’s application ”

in other words, your 9:55 was a load of bollocks.

glad we cleared that up.

larry

October 27th, 2010
10:17 am

NPR had a right to fire Williams and CNN had a right to fire Sanchez. End of story .

USinUK

October 27th, 2010
10:18 am

thomas – wow. care to throw a few more hypotheticals in there?

Doggone/GA

October 27th, 2010
10:18 am

“But those employees were not fired.”

Williams was contracted as a news analyst, not as an opinion editor. He compromised his credibility as an unbiased analyst, therefore he violated his contract…and he paid the penalty for that.

Whacks Eloquent

October 27th, 2010
10:20 am

I laughed this morning when I heard “Christian Coalition” would not issue voter guide for the Georgia gubernatorial race. Why? Because neither Deal nor Barnes opposes changing the Sunday drink sales measures! Good grief, when will this idiot irrelevant organization just go away and quit making Christians as a whole look absolutely ignorant. I do not care if someone buys alcohol on Sunday or not, talk about an absolute non-issue! You’d think the absolute shunning of Ralph Reed for Lt Gov in 06 would have sent a hint to these fools, but obviously not…

Atlas Shrugging

October 27th, 2010
10:21 am

Here you go again J, …generating hatred between the rep-ugnants and the Dem-wits….and you have the gall to say you are somehow different from other hate mongers.

Whacks Eloquent

October 27th, 2010
10:23 am

IMO, NPR is a small price to pay to avoid the return of the “Fairness Doctrine”…

I’ll let you keep your liberal taxpayer-funded talk radio, if you’ll leave my commercial-funded conservative talk radio alone!

Jay

October 27th, 2010
10:23 am

Atlas, do you believe there is a difference between discussing/debating politics and “generating hatred”?

Ragnar Danneskjöld

October 27th, 2010
10:24 am

Pretty good vetting process. The more I see their work, the more I am more impressed with the Heritage Foundation. I joined them, only costs $25. Did not know about the placement service, another great idea,

JohnnyReb

October 27th, 2010
10:24 am

larry@10:17 – no, NPR may not have the right to fire Williams. NPR is not unlike most large corporations/organizations. They must show cause and a path of increasing disciplinary action. NPR may be able to show documents proving cause and even increasing or stepped action. However, they completely dropped the ball on how the firing occurred, plus they have other employees who are on video making statements much worse than that of Williams. If he sues, he wins.

RW-(the original)

October 27th, 2010
10:25 am

your 9:55 was a load of bollocks.

9:55? Holy crap I better get out of here. Anyway I would say that section II is almost assuredly an ideological purity test and if I use the Jay B standard I can claim it as fact since I don’t know anymore than he does how these answers are being scored.

See y’all in the PM.

Paul

October 27th, 2010
10:27 am

USinUK

“he lost his job because he broke his contract of employment.”

Whenever the top brass give differing reasons for an event, it’s cause for concern. That’s the reason put out by the CEO -that he gave his opinion and that was inconsistent with NPR’s editorial policies and practices. However, Mr. Williams stated that Ellen Weiss, NPR’s senior VP for News, saying his remarks crossed the line and he had made a bigoted statement. Add to that opinions expressed by others employed by NPR (while Williams, the only Black is fired), certain Washington DC statutes on employment guarantees where opinions are expressed, CEO Schiller’s ‘therapist’ statement (American with Disabilities Act), and we have a great lawsuit to look forward to.

Del

October 27th, 2010
10:27 am

Really comical to hear the left talk about thinking outside the box. The far-left doesn’t tolerate any political thought outside of their box. They need to stay inside the box and speak the party line on each and every issue. Next topic

thomas

October 27th, 2010
10:28 am

USinUK

October 27th, 2010
10:18 am

Que?

what hypothetical?

the quote I used was from an actual commentator (Andrei Codrescu)

so sorry i am unaware of the hypotheticals you speak of?

Or did you not know that NPR allowed its stff to say such things?

Do you see why some would be of the opinion that NPR does not have a problem with commentators giving opinions, it has more to do with the type of opinion?

SW

October 27th, 2010
10:28 am

Normal orthodoxy stuff. Small minds unopen to ideas that make progress. Keep on living in the past.

thomas

October 27th, 2010
10:30 am

Doggone/GA

October 27th, 2010
10:18 am

I agree that Williams violated his contract and NPR had just cause and rason to fire him.

My question is simply why NPR has not taken the same action for other analyst and commentators who have given their opinions as well?

The only difference I see is that the others opinions were more in line with the views and opinions of the left.

Bubba Bob

October 27th, 2010
10:32 am

So you don’t think the left does the same thing? How many conservatives are on Obama’s staff?

Jay

October 27th, 2010
10:34 am

thomas, Andrei Codrescu is an occasional commentator on NPR. He is not a staff person. Staff people on NPR are banned from doing commentary. (I’ve done a commentary on NPR as well (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=11737347 ), and believe me, the money’s not much.)

NPR doesn’t have and doesn’t want opinion people on its staff. They choose to limit themselves to reporting. Williams was a news analyst — i.e, what this means, what’s likely to happen, why did things turn out his way — and was repeatedly warned against venturing into opinions. But his role on Fox was in the end impossible to reconcile with that requirement.

Peadawg

October 27th, 2010
10:34 am

“I hate to say this, that sounds amazingly fascist” – HA! the new word of the week. We’ve had racist, bigot, and now fascist! LMAO!!!

Democrats are ok with a socialist in office, but a fascist with different views, noooooooo.

Bring back "Babe Alley" to the Georgia Capitol!

October 27th, 2010
10:34 am

Jay, I don’t know if the questions are too place conservatives in new positions as much as they are for conservative organizations to try and make sure that they’re getting people who agree with their point of view and aren’t gonna make waves. The questions just seem to be a way to tell applicants what they’re getting into as far as just how decidedly conservative the organiztion is that they’re trying to join.
If someone from a liberal organization wanted to get into these organizations and sabotage them, then, one, they’d have to be really, really determined and dedicated and willing to make the effort to put together a resume and record of being a solid conservative by the time they get to that point, though take it from me, very ambitious politicians with a thirst for power would be willing to go that far if they knew that it would pay off with lots of money, power, and of course, sex! Though, getting back to my original point, a questionaire isn’t much of a vetting process as many of the questions look to designed to get easily canned responses that anybody whose looking to get a job with a conservative organization would know how to answer.

thomas

October 27th, 2010
10:37 am

being devil’s advocate here but….

has anyone condemning the republicans for this considered that when scoring the answers it is possible that preference will be given to some with differing views to add some variation of thought in meetings and such?

Or have we been given the gift of mind reading and all now?

Unless we have documents(emails, memos, letters, etc.) stating to only hire those who are in lock step with the party?

Doggone/GA

October 27th, 2010
10:38 am

“NPR is a small price to pay to avoid the return of the “Fairness Doctrine”…”

Care to tell us just exactly WHO is trying to return to the that “doctrine”? I see it constantly raised as a “boo” issue…but no one seems to ACTUALLY be trying to bring it back…or haven’t you noticed?

Jay

October 27th, 2010
10:38 am

Troll, if you wish to repost that without the namecalling, feel free to do so.

larry

October 27th, 2010
10:38 am

While everyone votes , whether early voting from now until Friday, or votes on Tuesday, keep this story in mind…………….. And i wish we hadnt gotten these machines myself.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2010/10/27/feyerick.vote.hacking.cnn?hpt=T2

Mick

October 27th, 2010
10:38 am

**That America saw your ideas and said “No”.**

Not yet….however america saw repub ideas in 06 and 08 and said a resounding NO. Why anyone in their right mind would vote repub after their disasterous turn at the helm (2000-2006) is beyond me. OK, so the dems aren’t the gratest but at least they have the pretense of trying to fight for the little guy while the repubs are the arm of the millionaires and billionaires.

USinUK

October 27th, 2010
10:39 am

thomas – “There have been other commentators and even host on NPR shows that have given and made controversial OPINION statements. But those employees were not fired.”

is a hypothetical unless you want to start naming names and outlining details

as far as Codrescu, he’s not a reporter nor is he an editor – he’s paid to provide an OPINION, not ANALYSIS (which was William’s job)

MyHeritage dot com

October 27th, 2010
10:41 am

Watchmaker with extensive knowledge of swiss movements sought.

Doggone/GA

October 27th, 2010
10:41 am

“Do you see why some would be of the opinion that NPR does not have a problem with commentators giving opinions”

Of course they don’t…that’s what COMMENTATORS DO. Williams was NOT a commentator for NPR, he was a NEW ANALYST…contractually obliged to be as unbiased as possible. Once again, with feeling, he DAMAGED HIS CREDIBILITY as an UNBIASED news analyst, and therefore violated the terms of his contract.

Paul

October 27th, 2010
10:43 am

Back on topic, will the Tea Party newbies who got voted in on fiscal issues allow themselves to be co-opted by the conservative Republican agenda? Or will they tell Republican leadership, in the words of a NH Democrat, to ’shove it’?

paleo-neoCarlinist

October 27th, 2010
10:43 am

“extremism in defense of liberty is no vice.” or “ideological profiling in defense of hiring isn’t either.” in fact, it’s good business. Republicans/neo-cons don’t strike me as the types who see value in ombudsmen. life in the GOP is about choices (purple Kool-Aid or orange?)

StJ

October 27th, 2010
10:43 am

“For most purposes, [politics] is war short of physically killing someone.”

…as evidenced by Obama’s recent comments that Republicans were “the enemy” and “threats to democracy”. If Obama’s looking for threats to democracy, he needs to look in the mirror.

“The enemy”, indeed.

Doggone/GA

October 27th, 2010
10:44 am

“My question is simply why NPR has not taken the same action for other analyst and commentators who have given their opinions as well?”

You have lumped together “analysts” and “commentators” – commentators are hired to give their OPINIONS. Analysts are not. Williams was an analyst for NPR…he was a COMMENTATOR for FOX. Sooner or later he was going to get dinged by NPR…and he finally stepped over the line.

thomas

October 27th, 2010
10:44 am

Jay

October 27th, 2010
10:34 am

Nina Totenberg?

Or does NPR support a statement regarding Jesse helms would get Aids through a blood transfusion or one of his grandchildren would get aids?

Or maybe Ms. Totenberg was not giving her opinion I mean she did preface that comment by saying if there was any “retributive justice”….

Apparently it is not her opinion but a statement of fact that if there was retributive justice Helms or his grandchildren would get aides.

DK

October 27th, 2010
10:45 am

“Operationally, you have to be impressed by the conservative movement’s message discipline and ideological control.”

Hitler would be proud.

Peadawg

October 27th, 2010
10:46 am

“Why anyone in their right mind would vote repub after their disasterous turn at the helm (2000-2006) is beyond me. OK, so the dems aren’t the gratest but at least they have the pretense of trying to fight for the little guy”

Ya b/c the Democrats and their entitlements are soooo great for this country!

Whacks Eloquent

October 27th, 2010
10:47 am

Doggone, you know the “Fairness Doctrine” is still part of the utopian version for some people. Granted, we are not hearing about it now, because Dems are fighting for their political lives. Eventually, when they get control of Congress again, I would not be surprised to hear those two words mentioned again…

I was just making a hypothetical point that I don’t really care what NPR does, or that they get tax money. They do play nice classical music sometimes at least! :-)

Paul

October 27th, 2010
10:47 am

USinUK

“is a hypothetical unless you want to start naming names and outlining details”

Nina Totenburg, Legal Affairs Correspondent?

Cokie Roberts, Senior News Analyst, NPR?

out for a bit -

Jay

October 27th, 2010
10:50 am

The Totenberg comment was 15 years ago, before NPR really cracked down on such things, and as far as I know it was the only time she said something troublesome like that. Williams, on the other hand, was already aware that he was on probation, so to speak, for multiple problems in the past. You fire somebody for a pattern of mistakes, not one mistake.

I’m not trying to excuse what Totenberg said, and neither is she, by the way:

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2010/10/26/130838719/totenberg-on-helms-remark-stupidest-thing-she-s-said-on-tv

Doggone/GA

October 27th, 2010
10:50 am

“Granted, we are not hearing about it now”

In other words, you’ve raised it as a straw-man argument. Another “be afraid, be very afraid” of something that doesn’t actually exist. YOU’RE apology is accepted too.

carlosgvv

October 27th, 2010
10:51 am

The Republicans could save a lot of time if they just asked the applicants if they are willing to pledge full and unquestioning allegience to Corporate America. Since the Republicans are wholly owned by Big Business, they need lackeys who will serve Business without question.

paleo-neoCarlinist

October 27th, 2010
10:52 am

the Juan Williams story is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO last week. NPR blew it on many levels, but hey, that’s life. it is not possible for a person to “analyze” (political) news without offering an opinion. ditto the ridiculous, semantic distinction between the job titles of News Analyst and Commentator. for whatever reason (editorial, moral, political, financial), it was determined that Juan Williams was no longer of value to NPR. hey folks, there are 10-20 million Americans whose previous employers came to the same conclusion. to his credit, Williams got up, dusted himself off and started pedaling (or peddling, as it were).

thomas

October 27th, 2010
10:54 am

Doggone, USinUK, Jay

Is calling Glenn Beck a statement of fact now?

Or would that be an opinion?

Or maybe the picture of honesty…

claiming to be at the Capital, when in reality its just a green Screen.

oh and for you UsinUk, to make sure there is no hypotheticals involved… go look up Cokie Roberts

Mick

October 27th, 2010
10:54 am

peadawg
**Ya b/c the Democrats and their entitlements are soooo great for this country**

What entitlements might you be referring to, medicare? social security? You might be in your thirties now but god willing you live to see old age, you will be mighty glad that there is a safety net in case of economic hardship or tragedy. You paid into it and so you are quite entitled to it. These programs are an addition to any retirement planning but for many, its all they’ve got.

thomas

October 27th, 2010
10:54 am

calling Gleen Beck a terrorist! whoopsie!

Doggone/GA

October 27th, 2010
10:55 am

“it is not possible for a person to “analyze” (political) news without offering an opinion”

Think of it this way: you have a list of people, of all races, political persuasions, and religions that have applied for a job. Their qualifications are such that it’s difficult to seperate out one “best” candidate. So you hire an unbiased analyst to “vet” them and, yes, give his “opinion” – based on HIS expertise – as to which is the best candidate.

And then you find out that he is afraid whenever he is around black men. Now, will you REALLY trust his analysis to be as unbiased as POSSIBLE. Will you trust his opinion if he informs you that the best candidate is someone who is Caucuasion? Will you ever be SURE that he honestly “vetted” any black, male candidates?

Doggone/GA

October 27th, 2010
10:57 am

“Is calling Glenn Beck a statement of fact now?”

Was this supposed to make any sort of sense? Because it didn’t. But if you want an answer: I have no idea if Glenn Beck is a statement of fact or not.

thomas

October 27th, 2010
10:58 am

Jay

October 27th, 2010
10:50 am

Ok, apparently apologies make everything OK. I’m sure she was not pressed to give that apology. NAH

Cokie’s comments were made within the last year. Or is it not an opinion to claim Glenn Beck is more like a terrorist? or what about calling him a traitor to American values?

Are those facts jay?

Or was NPR not cracking down on that sorta thing then?

Del

October 27th, 2010
10:58 am

Williams was a Fox News contributor. he was fired from NPR because he appeared on Bill O’Rielly’s show and indicated that he felt uncomfortable when he saw people wearing Muslim clothing in airports. NPR a left wing organization who is beholden to radical far left billion heirs like George Soros, won’t tolerate those who stray out of the left wing box. So, now Williams has moved on, so to speak and NPR is paying the P/R price for making fools out of themselves. Both a fitting and happy ending.

stands for decibels

October 27th, 2010
10:59 am

Or does NPR support a statement regarding Jesse helms would get Aids

Any other farm-fresh examples? Preferably ones more recent than 1995, better yet, one where you don’t have to stand on your head and squint real hard to come up with that particular interpretation of what was actually said on the air?

Also, New Black Panthers! and JournOList! Come on, guys, you’re falling down on the job.

Peadawg

October 27th, 2010
10:59 am

Mick, not the ones YOU pay into, the one that others pay for. Like food stamps, medicaid, welfare, etc. All these handouts are making people too dependent on the gov’t. Where’s the drive and to get out and do something these days with the gov’t doing everything for you?

stands for decibels

October 27th, 2010
10:59 am

NPR a left wing organization who is beholden to radical far left billion heirs like George Soros

So stupid on so many levels…

General Jack D. Ripper

October 27th, 2010
11:00 am

I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.

thomas

October 27th, 2010
11:00 am

Doggone/GA

October 27th, 2010
10:57 am

Haha funny girl…. too much of a hurry to be the smart @ss in class to take the time to read 2 comments down and even during the same time of day?

I will from this day forth make a much improved effort at not having any typos or accidentally leaving anything off as well.

If I do doggone I will assure you that no others posters post before i do to correct my mistake.

Left wing management

October 27th, 2010
11:01 am

“The clear intent and effect of such a system is to discourage thinking outside the box and painting outside the lines.”

And this is a movement that started out by preaching to us about their boldness and courage to yell “Stop!” to the runaway train of collectivization?

Pathetic.

Del

October 27th, 2010
11:03 am

“So stupid on so many levels…” I agree with you, they certainly were.

USMC DAWG

October 27th, 2010
11:04 am

It is funny to read USinUK’s msseage:

“No, JohnnyReb, politics is NOT war or anything like it. Politics is supposed to be about finding the best way to serve the American people – not the best way to defeat your enemy.”

And yet this high-minded hypocrite with the “bumper” snippets, along with Jay, support President Obama’s tactics that he clearly stated to a “Latino” special interest group this week that politics is about rewarding you friends and “PUNISHING” your ememies. Boy, that’s great for the Country!

thomas

October 27th, 2010
11:05 am

Doggone/GA

October 27th, 2010
10:55 am

And then you find out that he is afraid whenever he is around black men.

Thats not at all what Mr. Williams said! Mr. Williams labeled an exact group of the Muslim faith, by the way they dressed themselves…. even went on to verify that he was not speaking about all muslims..

His comments were stupid and not very well thought out, but for you to associate it with someone else saying whenever they are around black men with no differnces mentioned is not a very honest comparison

BlahBlahBlah

October 27th, 2010
11:05 am

“The clear intent and effect of such a system is to discourage thinking outside the box”

Who do they think they are, a liberal arts college?

Jefferson

October 27th, 2010
11:06 am

Republicans are pretty sure they know everything.

Scout

October 27th, 2010
11:07 am

Jay:

Are you whistling in the dark again?

BTW: Democrat staffers need only be socialists, marxists, friends of terrorists, etc.

“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.” Winston Churchill