Protester stomped in Ky. Senate race
Since this is pretty clearly going to dominate the innertubes today:
I have no doubt whatsoever that Rand Paul and most of his supporters are appalled by what happened last night. However, I also have no doubt that in this incident and others yet to come, we are reaping the harvest of hatred sown by overheated rhetoric that treats political disagreement as betrayal and political opponents as a dire threat to America’s existence.
And on that point, it’s good to get at least SOME bipartisan agreement, notably here and here.
On the other hand, there have also been attempts to justify it and to excuse it or even celebrate it.
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notmike
October 26th, 2010
11:44 am
“we are reaping the harvest of hatred sown by overheated rhetoric that treats political disagreement as betrayal and political opponents as a dire threat to America’s existence.”
and Jay does not see the role that he and Cynthia Tucker have played in this regard? Such hypocrisy.
notmike
October 26th, 2010
11:45 am
“Thomas, I have not contributed to the overheated rhetoric. If you wish to cite examples to the contrary, please, feel free to do so.”
How about doing two blog articles trying to paint Lynn Westmoreland as a racist for saying the word “uppity”?
AmVet's Mystery Meat
October 26th, 2010
11:46 am
1 out of 200+ – that ain’t bad. Now, if you said everyone of the 200+ turned on you, then we would have a problem.
jm
October 26th, 2010
11:46 am
dems – here you go
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFeUhSlHiUQ
jt
October 26th, 2010
11:47 am
Herein lies a real stomp. Compliments of Sinatra.
No ……………Jay partakes of no inflammatory rhetoric.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59MFypO0O4g
Del
October 26th, 2010
11:47 am
paleo, difference between a coward and a bully. They’re analogous , however, a bully may choose to stand and fight while cowards will turn and run. I’d bet that during the New Black Panther incident had someone given those two idiots a call out they would have backed off and ran like an Iraqi tank. Thus in all probability cowards. The video didn’t show her being punched nor kicked. All I could see was what appeared to be a light tapping and then a light push on her head to the pavement. In fact there appeared to be some sort of fabric wrapped around her head. Afterwords during her video taped comments, she didn’t appear to suffer any visible injury that a “stomping” surely would have shown.. You can of course can conclude what you choose.
TnGelding
October 26th, 2010
11:47 am
Stomped? More like stepped on, but it’s still unacceptable. Let the games begin!
thomas
October 26th, 2010
11:48 am
Jay
October 26th, 2010
11:21 am
I had already concluded that you would find yourself guilt free in this matter….
Guess you feel no need to justify your comments of the GOP base having a psyche that causes them to have a need to feel the victim…. nothing over heated or rhetoric spewing about that… Hell in some circles i bet they consider that a compliment…
I would assume you are prepared to defend calling a person “crazy” as you have just because you disagree with the idea or basis of their claim against the government. Nothing overheated there to call another person crazy, when that same person has said or done nothing to attack you, other than not agreeing wth your view of things.
AmVet's Mystery Meat
October 26th, 2010
11:48 am
notmike
October 26th, 2010
11:44 am
and Jay does not see the role that he and Cynthia Tucker have played in this regard? Such hypocrisy.
They don’t see it because they are so passionate for their cause and their paycheck.
Whacks Eloquent
October 26th, 2010
11:49 am
“violence is not acceptable……just curious as to why you post this video and not the one several months ago when SEIU thugs beat a black vendor at a TEA Party rally??? really the ajc’s bias is really getting too obvious!”
I did not see that…I am going to assume the thugs did not have the common sense to take off their union t-shirts first though!
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
October 26th, 2010
11:49 am
Well, mess with the bull and you get the horn. It’s about time this election got down to some real butt-kicking. Not these mealy-mouthed words people use. We need more violence if we’re going to get this old fashioned hate out of our system. If a whole bunch of us Tea Partiers got together, we could give those two Black Panther thugs standing in front of a voting place a run for their money. I could bring my anti-tank weapon and the two machine guns I use for hunting and self-defense. This Scout could bring one of the fancy-smancy rifles he talks about, and even @@ could jump into the fray with a couple of her spiked heels. We could top it off by letting Sister Dusty jump in and breathe on the fallen corpses. Then we could all get together and pray.
Let’s get this election over with before we’re all dead. Then some librul Democrats will wish they were dead. Bring it on!
Have a good day everybody.
AmVet
October 26th, 2010
11:49 am
For evidence of just how many disgusting people have infected the right wing, read three of the first nine, non-JB posts. And it doesn’t stop there.
Yep, by their own words, jt, Donovan, RW, A+A and Union all qualify.
Which apparently jm at 10:23 conveniently overlooked.
Then there are those like Tilli, thomas, Ben the Independent, @@, Ragnar and LydiasDad who arguably support it covertly by throwing out useless red herring *instead* of using this opportunity to rebuke the needless and irrational violence by those Tea Partiers/Republicans.
But to their credit others like Peadawg, Del and Jimmy62 denounce the disgusting behavior of this Kentucky trash. Hell, even my most ardent fan spoke out against this thuggery.
And as they have made their views public, I have zero problem with calling these people out by name.
And trust me, brother Normal, you have nothing to be ashamed of. You are at the opposite end of that Kentucky spectrum…
jm
October 26th, 2010
11:50 am
Matti 11:43 – theft makes people pretty angry. And some people somewhat justifiably regard taxation as theft when it is “given” to other people instead of used for government services.
I think its a matter of degree. I think most people are for taking care of the destitute with government money, among other things. When you have $1.5 Trillion flowing around from one group to another, people start getting pretty ticked off.
paleo-neoCarlinist
October 26th, 2010
11:52 am
here’s why I don’t believe it was staged. seems to me the stand up guys from the tea party side of the house would have ‘defended’ this woman (like when we invaded Iraq to defend the Iraqi people). I find it hard to believe that out of all the “conservative” males at the event, there was not at least one potential “Good Samaritan” packing heat, and felt compelled to come to the woman’s aide. in fact, if it were a staged event, it would have presented a unique opportunity for true tea partiers to to “stomp” the fake tea partiers. nope, I suspect this was real.
jm
October 26th, 2010
11:53 am
For the record, I think Rand Paul will be just fine as one vote among 100 in the Senate. A little out there. But that’s ok. Americans tilt right anyway….
Matti
October 26th, 2010
11:53 am
Del, “All I could see was what appeared to be a light tapping and then a light push on her head to the pavement. In fact there appeared to be some sort of fabric wrapped around her head.”
CHRIST! Really? That’s okay with you? Like, WHAT?
notmike
October 26th, 2010
11:53 am
“Newt Gingrich has become, frankly, a hate-mongering bigot”
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2010/07/28/newt-gingrich-has-become-frankly-a-hate-mongering-bigot/
No overheated rhetoric there.
thomas
October 26th, 2010
11:53 am
Don’t Forget
October 26th, 2010
11:34 am
Here is the easiest one to find and being that you posted before and after it this was posted i find it hard to believe you missed it.
To your claim of bloggers and not a national following of millions…..
would CNN meet that standard? they do have atleast a million followers/viewers right?
this was posted by jm…
jm
October 26th, 2010
10:36 am
Oh here’s a good Bush-Hitler one. From CNN.
http://spectator.org/blog/2009/04/16/flashback-in-2006-cnns-roesgen
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jm
October 26th, 2010
11:53 am
By the way, on my 11:53 – I wouldn’t want 100, or even 50 Rand Paul’s in the Senate.
RB from Gwinnett
October 26th, 2010
11:54 am
“Thomas, I have not contributed to the overheated rhetoric. If you wish to cite examples to the contrary, please, feel free to do so.”
WRONG!! You contribute to it by using this bully pulpit every day to denounce and degrade everybody who doesn’t agree with your far left leaning opinions. For you to sit here and act like what you do here every day isn’t part of the problem is a big joke, Jay. And rather arrogant of you.
jm
October 26th, 2010
11:55 am
thomas – you gotta love the “devil-hitler” combination with regards to Bush. Pretty creative. And stupid.
cissy
October 26th, 2010
11:55 am
Mr. Bookman, I respect your judgment in general, but look carefully at this film and you’ll see that you’ve been played: This “incident” is a put-up. Look at the woman’s face in the interview later: She’s exhilarated by the attention! Her tone is jubilant: “They weren’t very nice.” She’s not staring at the ground, or at the camera, or looking angrily or shakily at nothing like real victims of violence do, but slyly cutting her eyes off to the side. Translation: “This went just like we rehearsed! And the media fell for it!”
She has no bruises, no scrapes; she displays none of the anger, shock, or fear she would have felt if this had really happened. The film shows the guys handling her carefully. She’s not thrown to the ground; and guy’s foot, which was on her shoulder, not her head, clearly didn’t exert much force on her. And before this film began rolling, she had lunged at Paul’s car not once but twice. I’m surprised security didn’t wrestle her down.
For a real film of a real throw-down beating, see the film of the SEIU union thugs beating on a guy at a town hall meeting last year.
Just a Thought
October 26th, 2010
11:56 am
Yea, they REALLY did stomp her good….lol. When are you going to post the video of them actually stomping her, Jay? Why the calls to get the police? Were they holding her for the police, or calling the police to assist her? Not very clear since it’s apparent the video was edited.
Jefferson
October 26th, 2010
11:56 am
Rand won’t last if he cuts out the “bacon” he brags on doing, KY needs pork, they crave it.
notmike
October 26th, 2010
11:56 am
“Our extremists – Gingrich, et al. – boost Islamic extremists”
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2010/08/24/our-extremists-gingrich-et-al-boost-islamic-extremists/
jm
October 26th, 2010
11:56 am
Next thing you know, the liberals will be calling this the “Kentucky Massacre”…..
Run for the hills! Republicans are coming!!!
Me, I’m pretty happy they’re getting some power back.
notmike
October 26th, 2010
11:57 am
“I think it’s pretty clear where we’re headed, which is directly into the iceberg. In fact, a good portion of the GOP seems downright giddy at the prospect of hearing the popping of rivets, the shearing of metal, the inrush of water and the cries of those trapped below deck.”
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2010/10/22/gop-leaders-steering-for-the-iceberg/
Jay is quite clear that he thinks that the GOP wishes bad things for Americans.
Jefferson
October 26th, 2010
11:57 am
I have yet to hear a t-republican make anything that resembles an intelligent solutions to the problems, they just bitch about them.
Nice Guy
October 26th, 2010
11:58 am
Me’s wondering why the video only shows the violence. It would be nice to see what, if any, instigating that young women did. Perhaps she did none, or, perhaps she deserved what she got.
Either way, I don’t agree with this type of violent behavior. Mature adults are above that type of nonsense.
jm
October 26th, 2010
11:58 am
cissy – everything but your last sentence was complete bunk (with 99.9% certainty)
Matti
October 26th, 2010
11:58 am
jm @ 11:50,
How does that justify the behavior? I get ticked off too, but I manage the personal responsiblity of self control. I was, and am, in favor of the reform on insurance company abuses, and a way for poor people to access health care without driving up MY costs as an insured person. This does not warrant his behavior, but the fact that you, and several others here can rationalize your vitriol the way you do makes me glad I saw the second ammendment light. CHRIST you people are creepy!
paleo-neoCarlinist
October 26th, 2010
11:59 am
Del, now we’re splitting hairs. as I see it, most bullies will not stand and fight an equal, which is why they are cowards as well. bullies don’t pick on ’someone their own size.’ as I said, you can see what you choose to see in this, and it very well may be staged, but as I just said, I don’t think so. the difference between the New Black Panthers and this (in my eyes) is; I don’t believe there was any actual contact in Philadelphia. threats only work when fear exists. anger, on the other hand usually manifests itself in acts of violence. there is a difference between “intimidation” and assault.
Don't Forget
October 26th, 2010
11:59 am
jm
October 26th, 2010
11:46 am
dems – here you go
jm, how can you equate “argue and get in their face” with violence or a second amendment solution. Do you argue with HItler? No you kill the guy.
notmike
October 26th, 2010
11:59 am
“‘Second Amendment remedies’? That suggests treason”
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2010/06/16/second-amendment-remedies-that-suggests-treason/
Whacks Eloquent
October 26th, 2010
11:59 am
jefferson, you make a good point. Why should we not expect that our political “leaders” be willing to sacrifice their political “careers” for their principles? Heck, this should only be a temp job for them at best anyway! I for one hope a lot of the new members of congress, from both parties, stand for their principles and get rid of the washington bbq festival!
jm
October 26th, 2010
12:00 pm
Jay – notmike isn’t off his rocker. But for the crooks, all the Republicans I know of are good folks.
thomas
October 26th, 2010
12:00 pm
jm
October 26th, 2010
11:55 am
apologies for not getting your permission first in using your post as defense of mine.
BTW, I would go out on a limb and claim that the Hitler/ Bush comparisions were better and more artisitic than the Hitler/ Obama ones.
notmike
October 26th, 2010
12:00 pm
“A party pushed into power by blind anger and outrage will then try to govern in anger and outrage. The dramatic, even revolutionary expectations that it has created among its base of supporters will collide head on with Washington realities. The contradictions inherent in a “populist” movement stoked to high dudgeon against Wall Street and other special interests — a movement that is in fact quietly financed and guided by those very same special interests — will no longer be hidden. And the mindset among conservatives that interprets even the slightest compromise as an abject surrender of principle will make it impossible for them to govern responsibly.”
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2010/06/16/second-amendment-remedies-that-suggests-treason/
Conspiracies, fear-mongering and those monolithically evil Republicans.
jm
October 26th, 2010
12:01 pm
Matti 11:58 – I’ve earlier said the guy should go to jail. That doesn’t seem like I’m justifying it.
DB17@gmail.com
October 26th, 2010
12:01 pm
Where was all the outrage when that Tea Party member got beat up by a bunch of union thugs? Or that senior citizen protesting against Obama care that got his ear torn off? Oh wait, the media didn’t report that. Fox News and the internet media did however. Nope, no hatred espoused from the left whatsoever. Next….
jm
October 26th, 2010
12:01 pm
Don’t Forget 11:59 – not following that post…. need a little clarity.
notmike
October 26th, 2010
12:02 pm
“People who spout such nonsense are not patriotic Americans; they are not lovers of liberty or believers in the rule of law or self-governance. By claiming the right to impose their viewpoints through violence rather than the ballot box, they seek to become the very tyrants they claim to oppose, and wrapping their ugliness in the American flag does nothing to change its vile character.”
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2010/06/16/second-amendment-remedies-that-suggests-treason/
jm
October 26th, 2010
12:03 pm
thomas – no worries. I posted it….
The liberals here are the ones who stick more words in my mouth. Not the people who reference a previous post.
Nice Guy
October 26th, 2010
12:03 pm
notike-
Careful, you’re going to anger some on here that don’t take too kindly to you making their leader (Jay) look bad….
notmike
October 26th, 2010
12:04 pm
” In fact, I would say the debate is now over and that Williams has quite convincingly proved the NAACP correct: There are indeed racist elements in the Tea Party movement, in fact among its national leadership”
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2010/07/17/tea-partys-national-spokesman-proves-naacp-correct-after-all/
jm
October 26th, 2010
12:04 pm
notmike – the ballot box is going to hit the Dems on the head.
The core remaining very liberal Democrat contingent will be very obstructionist though.
Jay
October 26th, 2010
12:05 pm
NotMike, as with Thomas, if that’s the best you can produce, you’ve got nothing.
But by all means, continue to post, I am more than happy to let our readers judge these things for themselves.
Bosch
October 26th, 2010
12:06 pm
“Perhaps she did none, or, perhaps she deserved what she got.”
Yeah, I wonder what a small female with a sign could do to deserve getting man handled to the ground by a couple big guys and having her head held down with their feet. Ya’ know, short of pulling a gun.
Peadawg
October 26th, 2010
12:07 pm
The entitlement mentality of this nation has gotten so bad that it’s effecting the Texas Longhorns.
ttp://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5727226
“I do think there’s some entitlement with this team. They sit around thinking it’s just going to happen,”
Yikes!
Doggone/GA
October 26th, 2010
12:08 pm
The SEIU “beating”
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=367×22161
Nice Guy
October 26th, 2010
12:08 pm
Bosch-
I agree. But man, let’s be real here. You go to a rally and relentlessy poke and prod people, they’re going to get angry and some will even do stupid things….
notmike
October 26th, 2010
12:10 pm
Of course, in addition to supplying his own over-heated and divisive rhetoric, Jay also gleefully finds the most absurd and divisive rhetoric coming from the right, thereby reinforcing the opinions of his partisan echo chamber that all who disagree with their political views are bad.
Jay’s message that over-heated rhetoric has gotten out of hand is correct. The fact that he refuses to acknowledge that he and Cynthia Tucker are as complicit as anyone on this planet in this disgusting cycle of hypocrisy is bad enough. For him to whine about it is truly pathetic.
jm
October 26th, 2010
12:10 pm
More liberal media bias. Ref Juan Williams. From the Telegraph in the UK…..
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/janetdaley/100060821/us-liberal-media-stamps-on-free-expression/
Don't Forget
October 26th, 2010
12:10 pm
jm
October 26th, 2010
12:01 pm
Don’t Forget 11:59 – not following that post…. need a little clarity.
You posted the video of Obama saying to “argue with and get in the face” of conservatives during the campaign. I am saying that that is not a call to violence. But when someone compares another to Hitler the implication is that all measures, including violence should be taken to stop that person.
Nice Guy
October 26th, 2010
12:10 pm
Jay – “But by all means, continue to post, I am more than happy to let our readers judge these things for themselves.”
I’m happy to sit by and watch this battle. But you got to give him credit, he’s doing more than many people would do to make his point…
thomas
October 26th, 2010
12:10 pm
Jay
October 26th, 2010
12:05 pm
Then by all means Jay show us some examples of those you feel have done so and used overheated rhetoric?
Then show us how they are different than the rhetoric you use and why theirs is overheated and yours is even tempered?
sleestak
October 26th, 2010
12:11 pm
I’m shocked there has been more of this! The gubmint is 100% out of control and lots of people are tired of it.
AngryRedMarsWoman
October 26th, 2010
12:11 pm
“It gets worse from here on out unless we recognize who is doing this to us – and stop them.”
ooh..mememememe…pick me… THE POLITICAL CLASS! They are the ones doing this to us and they need to be stopped, pronto. When politics became a career choice it ceased to be about the good of the nation and the people and became all about the individual politician. No even somewhat sane person would go through what it takes to be a politician in this country based on a desire to “serve the people”. I would rather face the Spanish Inquisition than run for office. I doubt that any truly decent person would seek election. Whether this incident was staged by MoveOn or a real scuffle, we should all be ashamed of what we (yes we, all of us) have either become or allowed our fellow Americans to become. Shame on all of us. We are like a bunch of drunks in a bar at 3am fighting over a girl — she is there at 3am for a reason, folks, because she ain’t worth fighting over….and neither are these damn politicians.
Nice Guy
October 26th, 2010
12:12 pm
“For him to whine about it is truly pathetic.”
Uh, oh.
Bosch
October 26th, 2010
12:12 pm
Nice Guy,
I mean, yeah, and if a girl walks into a biker bar wearing a low cut shirt, then you just know she’s asking for trouble.
jm
October 26th, 2010
12:13 pm
This is an interesting, balanced, piece.
http://www.tnr.com/article/economy/magazine/78564/austerity-economic-crisis-democrats-tea-party?passthru=YmJiMGRiNWFjYjk4MGFjNGM4ZjIzOTAzNjM4NWRiMjU
notmike
October 26th, 2010
12:13 pm
“NotMike, as with Thomas, if that’s the best you can produce, you’ve got nothing.
But by all means, continue to post, I am more than happy to let our readers judge these things for themselves.”
LOL. Yes Jay, your partisan supporters will think it is perfectly fine. Guess what? So do Glenn Beck’s.
So do us a favor. Go out and find some obscure comment to take out of context so you can accuse them of racism. Or go find some revolting comment from your peers like Limbaugh and Beck and shine a light on it.
Don’t feel bad. Few hypocrites are aware of their truly heroic hypocrisy. I think Beck and Hannity know they are professional wrestlers. You are just self-deluded.
Nice Guy
October 26th, 2010
12:14 pm
“I mean, yeah, and if a girl walks into a biker bar wearing a low cut shirt, then you just know she’s asking for trouble.”
Sorry Bosch, not at all the same. You know, that apples and oranges thing.
Scout
October 26th, 2010
12:15 pm
Excuse me ……… that 11:13 was old Scout.
Jay:
In Kentucky that ain’t “stompin” that “Buck Dancin” !!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29Im4_Gsp44
BADA BING
October 26th, 2010
12:15 pm
Slow day, here is some news. The octopus that predicted the World Cup victories died. Gee, he shoulda seen that coming.
Bosch
October 26th, 2010
12:15 pm
“Where was all the outrage when that Tea Party member got beat up by a bunch of union thugs? Or that senior citizen protesting against Obama care that got his ear torn off? Oh wait, the media didn’t report that.”
Oh, you mean like if you use the google and search, there’s NOT like a gajillion hits? Which, there is.
notmike
October 26th, 2010
12:15 pm
If overheated rhetoric is such a problem, then why does Jay spend all day scouring the web for it, so as to better publicize it?
“I keep throwing gas on the fire, but it keeps burning”. LOL
jm
October 26th, 2010
12:15 pm
Don’t Forget 12:10 –
“I am saying that that is not a call to violence” I generally agree.
“But when someone compares another to Hitler the implication is that all measures, including violence should be taken to stop that person.”
I agree. The comparisons to Hitler should stop. They’re absurd. But everyone should realize the comparisons are made by both crazy sides. There are crazy liberals, and crazy conservatives.
The center is going to the right. And that is perfectly rational.
notmike
October 26th, 2010
12:16 pm
Bosch –
Yeah, that is the difference. You have to go look for extreme behavior from liberals. Extreme behavior from conservatives is headline news.
AmVet
October 26th, 2010
12:17 pm
notike? No kiddin’ Guy! Ike was a war hero, an effective moderate leader of men and who foresaw what you cons STILL can’t see vis a vis the takeover by the military industrial complex.
And add DB17 and sleestak to that list of mine…
BADA BING
October 26th, 2010
12:17 pm
If a girl walks into a biker bar with a low cut top on, she’s overdressed.
Bosch
October 26th, 2010
12:17 pm
Nice Guy,
How is that not the same?
“or, perhaps she deserved what she got.”
I’ve heard that argument in rape cases before when the girl was wearing inappropriate clothing.
Jay
October 26th, 2010
12:18 pm
So let me see if I understand your argument here, NotMike:
By criticizing those who suggest violence is a legitimate political tool, I am guilty of “overheated rhetoric” and being an extremist?
I proudly stand by every word in that post. Violence and “Second Amendment remedies” are NOT legitimate political tools.
But really, keep proving my point.
stands for decibels
October 26th, 2010
12:18 pm
You guys who are trying to prove what an incendiary meanie-head our Jay is?
erm. None of those examples you’re providing are especially harsh.
Methinks you need to sample some actual left-wing bloggers, instead of the rather moderate brand of liberalism you’ll find here.
Might I suggest this:
http://pandagon.net/
or this:
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/
Might want to put on the Depends first, though.
Obummer
October 26th, 2010
12:18 pm
Wouldn’t be surprised if it was a hoax. Liberals love controversy and altercations. She was obviously pleased after the incident…
notmike
October 26th, 2010
12:18 pm
Bosch –
Here is some more stuff that the AJC and the rest of the mainstream press never covered:
http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=621
Don’t have to search too hard for those few tea party signs now do you? They were all over the TV.
Scout
October 26th, 2010
12:18 pm
Matti:
Look, there goes a puppy !
AmVet's Mystery Meat
October 26th, 2010
12:19 pm
Bookdude is furiously perfecting the art of the one finger hen peck, trying to get his next blog out and put this one to rest.
stands for decibels
October 26th, 2010
12:19 pm
Also, this:
http://www.eschatonblog.com/
and this:
http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/
Jay
October 26th, 2010
12:20 pm
Well, NotMike is pretty clearly dear old Mike.
Don't Forget
October 26th, 2010
12:20 pm
But everyone should realize the comparisons are made by both crazy sides. There are crazy liberals, and crazy conservatives.
I agree completely and it has always been that way. What is new is the media personalities that promote the crazy’s and the politicians who are not ashamed to be associated with them.
Nice Guy
October 26th, 2010
12:20 pm
Bosch-
It’s not the same man. A chick with her tatas hangin out, walking thru a biker bar minding her own business is FAR, FAR from a Left-nut at a Right-nut political ralley poking and prodding people. C’mon, stop with this already….
Mr Right
October 26th, 2010
12:21 pm
dea
October 26th, 2010
10:50 am
Thanks for that, you hit the nail on the head !
Don't Forget
October 26th, 2010
12:21 pm
Jay
October 26th, 2010
12:20 pm
Well, NotMike is pretty clearly dear old Mike.
I wonder if he’s Mikophobic.
notmike
October 26th, 2010
12:22 pm
“By criticizing those who suggest violence is a legitimate political tool, I am guilty of “overheated rhetoric” and being an extremist?”
Everyone finds a way to twist someone’s words to rationalize a partisan attack. Do you really think it is a coincidence that you only find conservatives to be outraged about?
Every mindless partisan I know rationalizes their extreme rhetoric by saying “they deserve it”. Mindless conservatives do it and mindless liberals do it. You are doing it right now and you have tons of company.
Use your brain for just one second. Do you really think that anyone thinks their rhetoric is not justified?
Also, please explain why you spend your days publicizing the same rhetoric you deem to be dangerous. Seems kind of irresponsible.
RB from Gwinnett
October 26th, 2010
12:23 pm
Jay, your arrogance is showing and its not pretty!
jm
October 26th, 2010
12:23 pm
Don’t Forget 12:20 – hard to argue with your last sentence there.
Nice Guy
October 26th, 2010
12:23 pm
“notike? No kiddin’ Guy! Ike was a war hero”
Oh, AmVet, I just can’t get anything by you…..please excuse my typo. Thanks.
notmike
October 26th, 2010
12:23 pm
“Well, NotMike is pretty clearly dear old Mike.”
Gee, you saw through my clever disguise and it only took a few days. LOL
Feel free to resume ignoring me. It seems like now would be opportune.
Feel free to duck my question about why you disseminate so much speech that you deem to be dangerous.
AmVet
October 26th, 2010
12:23 pm
JB, LOL at your 12:20.
I was just in the process of writing this:
Is it just me or is notmike EXACTLY like the (real?) mike?
HYPER-fixated on a certain AJC employee…
thomas
October 26th, 2010
12:23 pm
stands for decibels
October 26th, 2010
12:18 pm
I’ve never made the claim Jay is the worst or even one of the worst…..
But it was he who claimed he was not at all part of the problem, that he is complaining about.
To me that would be like the guy who sells dime and 20 sacks ofweed complaining about the “drug dealers” in the area because they sell in quantity or sell harder drugs.
You don’t seee that as a slight bit hypocritical?
notmike
October 26th, 2010
12:25 pm
Jay is in the unique position of believing that his harsh rhetoric is justified. So does the Klan, Jay, so does the Klan.
notmike
October 26th, 2010
12:26 pm
For the truly slow, yes I am Mike.
Remind me not to hide the Easter Eggs too well with this crowd.
captguitarman
October 26th, 2010
12:26 pm
There is blame enough to go around, folks, on both sides. No halos in this climate anywhere. Why? Because it works. People complain endlessly about the low class ads, commercials, hit jobs, hit squads, shading and ignoring the truth, personal attacks, etc. and yet any good political consultant will tell you that if you run a nice guy or nice gal compaign, and stick to the issues. you will not have a prayer of winning — and that is true. This is where we are now as a culture. Candidates calling each other liars in debates – face to face – and probably for good reason — on BOTH sides. This is the age of Springer. This stuff gets attention and it sells, sells, sells, despite what people say exercising their fake piety and indignation, while digging through the Internet and other media for more, more, more slash, burn and attack ads and commercials and half truths or no truths. Sad but more true than we can admit to ourselves — hence the fake indignation.
AmVet
October 26th, 2010
12:27 pm
This almost qualifies as the pilot for one of those demented TV programs.
The Return of the Mindful Non-Partisan.
In which our hero uses clever shape-shifting and name changing techniques to infiltrate a subversive, anti-American blogging ring…
notmike
October 26th, 2010
12:27 pm
We all know that harsh rhetoric flows freely here. Anybody here think that their own rhetoric is unjustified?
Anyone?
Deep Throat
October 26th, 2010
12:27 pm
Reading these comments show how stupid liberals are, if a person ask Obozo why he does not keep his campaign promises at a town hall meeting the first thing out of your hateful mouths is he or she was a plant, now I do not condone physical abuse by anyone, but without seeing the full scene not just a short script I do question the legitimacy, not that I am saying it was staged but I know how you liberals twist and turn the truth, in other words I have come to doubt every word you speak.
Nice Guy
October 26th, 2010
12:27 pm
“For the truly slow, yes I am Mike.Remind me not to hide the Easter Eggs too well with this crowd.”
Too funny.
This is all gettin’ real good. Just popped a fresh bag of popcorn and I’m ready for Round 2….
jm
October 26th, 2010
12:27 pm
Jay’s first 2 sentences were at least caveats.
“:Since this is pretty clearly going to dominate the innertubes today:
I have no doubt whatsoever that Rand Paul and most of his supporters are appalled by what happened last night.”
The third sentence is a bit ridiculous.
RB from Gwinnett
October 26th, 2010
12:27 pm
Is there anybody here who doesn’t think that whole video was staged?