Protester stomped in Ky. Senate race
Since this is pretty clearly going to dominate the innertubes today:
I have no doubt whatsoever that Rand Paul and most of his supporters are appalled by what happened last night. However, I also have no doubt that in this incident and others yet to come, we are reaping the harvest of hatred sown by overheated rhetoric that treats political disagreement as betrayal and political opponents as a dire threat to America’s existence.
And on that point, it’s good to get at least SOME bipartisan agreement, notably here and here.
On the other hand, there have also been attempts to justify it and to excuse it or even celebrate it.
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USinUK
October 26th, 2010
11:01 am
jm – “if you won’t acknowledge facts, I have nothing to discuss with you.”
pot.
thomas
October 26th, 2010
11:01 am
Jay,
Would you not say you have contributed to the overheated rhetoric?
Or do you see yourself as a non-partisian point of view, with no rhetorical spin?
John
October 26th, 2010
11:01 am
Why the wig?
In fact why try to get close to the guy with your stupid sign?
In fact why would a member of moveon.org try to pull a stunt like this? Why can’t they just stand on the side of the road with a sign like a normal person?
This woman doused herself with gasoline and steppednto the fire and got burned. Who is really surprised?
Should she have gotten assulted, of course not. But neither she nor I are surprised at the outcome.
A) Dress up in a wig
B) Create an stupid sign
C) Sneak in the middle of a crowd who doesn’t support your side
D) Jum out and try to get someone to take your picture holding your sign next to a high profile political candidate.
E) DUCK AND COVER.
jm
October 26th, 2010
11:02 am
kettle
joe
October 26th, 2010
11:02 am
I’m surprised there’s not more of this, on both sides. Reminds me of the video footage you see where members of other countries parliaments actually come to blows during the sessions. But here, the problems aren’t to that level…yet. We all need to get a grip…don’t need episodes like this, and like the ones the Black Panthers pulled in Philly in 2008.
SW
October 26th, 2010
11:02 am
This is discourse for tea party republicans. They have so much seething anger in their veins, anger that was surprisingly and utterly absent for 8 years of overspending when a white man was in the office, that has suddenly so passionately boiled to the surface when a black man took that office, that they now pull down a protester and one guy stomps on her head.
Why are these people so fearful of a message and discourse with which they disagree?
RW-(the original)
October 26th, 2010
11:03 am
stands,
What would you have sent out as a press release if you were appointed Rand Paul press secretary of the day?
thomas
October 26th, 2010
11:03 am
Don’t Forget
October 26th, 2010
10:26 am
You must be honest enought to remember the same exact things being said of Bush only 3 short years ago right?
Let us not pretend as if this is a new phenomenon.
Jay
October 26th, 2010
11:04 am
Lydia’s Dad:
The decision not to prosecute the New Black Panthers was made by the BUSH Justice Department before Obama even took office.
That’s a fact.
jm
October 26th, 2010
11:04 am
USinUK engages in selection bias. That means she doesn’t know the truth and isn’t grounded in reality. Beeee veeeeewwwwyyyy careful when weeeding her thooooouuuuuts.
Roekest
October 26th, 2010
11:08 am
There are lunatic wing-nuts on both sides of the aisle. It’s only a matter of time before real violence breaks out.
Jay
October 26th, 2010
11:08 am
Thomas, I have not contributed to the overheated rhetoric. If you wish to cite examples to the contrary, please, feel free to do so.
Ben The Independent
October 26th, 2010
11:08 am
I agree with you Jay. Extreme hate by secular progressives of Palin, Bush (when in office), Newt and Chaney are good examples of out of bounds hate. Keep up the good work jay.
USinUK
October 26th, 2010
11:08 am
jm – “selection (sic) bias” … what are you, the chairman of the Department of Redundancy Department?
looks like someone has missed their snack time and is getting a bit cranky …
Don't Forget
October 26th, 2010
11:10 am
jm, the Obama as a socialist, communist, America hater, muslim, fascist has been promoted by numerous famous conservative pundits, notably and repeatedly Beck and Limbaugh, and embraced by several R politicians who not only perpetuate these ideas but actually have addressed these crowds. Both sides have their extremists but the right side is embracing theirs and encouraging them.
Mick
October 26th, 2010
11:10 am
** At least a Republican congress can hold back the tide of spending in the interim**
Oh yes…they did a heckuva job the last go round….gotta give em credit though…shred the economy, lose the elections, let a couple years go by and….blame the democrats for everything…and the tools in the shed will buy it hook, line and stinker….good grief.
Roekest
October 26th, 2010
11:11 am
@Ben The Independent
Your comment goes to show how little of an “independent” you really are. Are you so naive as to think leftist liberals are immune from this find of behavior??
paleo-neoCarlinist
October 26th, 2010
11:11 am
jt, thanks for “sheep dipping” the “umbrella man” in Dealy Plaza. all kidding aside, are you familiar with the term “disinformation”? you should look it up; it is often a key part of any successful intelligence operation/conspiracy. you see, what it does is distract curious observers. it’s akin to a false trail or sleight of hand trick. if the media and Warren Commission are spending time investigating the “mysterious man with the umbrella” (who could easily have been “staged” and operating under the cover of “wingnut”). ergo, if the Warren Commission, the media, etc. take the bait, they become unwitting accomplises in a cover-up. did the “umbrella man” play a role in teh JFK assassination? who knows? but as I said, when documented “facts of the case” are dismissed or reduced to a Seinfeld bit, we never really learn the truth about the larger event (the assassination). that’s my paleo-neo-Carlinsist Conspiracy Theory Moment of the day.
Union
October 26th, 2010
11:11 am
i have to give this a score of zero.. she was a little too chipper for someone that just had their head “stomped” and was beaten..
still looking for the seiu beatdown”s” that were given at some of the townhall meetings.. the egging of buses.. the spitting on that has been done (do we not post or talk about that because it was liberals?)
USinUK
October 26th, 2010
11:11 am
“the Obama as a socialist, communist, America hater, muslim, fascist has been promoted by numerous famous conservative pundits, notably and repeatedly Beck and Limbaugh”
don’t forget how Obama hates whitey (Beck) and how he has his father’s anti-colonial attitude (D’Souza)
Roekest
October 26th, 2010
11:12 am
@Mick
The Dems took Congress over in 2006. There’s where the problems began.
stands for decibels
October 26th, 2010
11:12 am
What would you have sent out as a press release if you were appointed Rand Paul press secretary of the day?
Don’t have time to word it, but I’d make it clear that what was done to the Moveon.org supporter by one of my own supporters was wrong, period, and that we were cooperating with the authorities to ensure that any acts deemed to be criminal in nature were prosecuted, and that we urged all of our supporters to act accordingly.
Which, IMHO, is not what Rand’s press guy did with his namby-pamby “all sides” business.
Mick
October 26th, 2010
11:13 am
Paleo
Get some sleep tonite – oswald was the lone assassin, case closed.
Don't Forget
October 26th, 2010
11:13 am
Thomas, I remember some extreme anti war protesters saying those things about Bush. I do not recall any cable news shows promoting them on an almost daily basis. Do you? Face the facts, the right has embraced this extremism.
Stomp
October 26th, 2010
11:13 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxKQ8xGBOSg&feature=related
P.S. I wonder if the Justice Department will prosecute this (which they should) instead of the Black Panther thugs?
Whacks Eloquent
October 26th, 2010
11:13 am
I am surprised that more of you aren’t ranting about the Tea Party being all violent and everything. Isn’t that what you libs think of all of us?
No this is a case of Paulistas…they were cooky in 2008 with the Ron Paul “Revolution” and it does not surprise me that some of them would be rabid for his son too! But sure, go ahead and assume all of us are just as dense and hateful as these goons…
jt
October 26th, 2010
11:13 am
“Thomas, I have not contributed to the overheated rhetoric. If you wish to cite examples to the contrary, please, feel free to do so.”
Let me but in then I am gone.
Jay used the word STOMPED”.
It clearly was not a STOMP. When one is STOMPED, one usually at least loses their glasses and doesn’t show up after the incidence looking like she just enjoyed multiple organis. Hence over-heated rhetoric. (see American History X).
Thank you and have a good day.
AmVet's Mystery Meat
October 26th, 2010
11:14 am
Jay, you contribute every single day that you write a blog. You’re not as bad as Tuck… I’ll give you that.
Del
October 26th, 2010
11:15 am
paleo, upon further review the young lady was a schill for moveon.org. She was there to create a disruption, so as to discredit the Rand campaign. The guy wearing the Rand tee shirt with his foot on her head was clearly just giving her light taps. She didn’t appear to have suffered any injury when she gave her comments after the incident. As for the New Black Panthers, they’re not bullies, they’re cowards. I think Rand will probably win next week.
stands for decibels
October 26th, 2010
11:15 am
Anyway, per usual Amanda puts it more eloquently than I’ll manage:
This is sniveling, cowardly, and frankly sick. There were no “both sides”. There was a group of large men that support Paul that attacked a single, much smaller female MoveOn activist. She was not being violent towards them. Handing out fliers and doing political theater at a debate can’t even really be called “annoying”. The word is “expected”. I expected an immediate and routine disavowal of any responsibility for the violence, but trying to play it off like it was “both sides”? That’s some sick s—. It’s cowardly. Of course, I wouldn’t expect any less of Rand Paul, who has above all other things during this election, proven himself to be a whiny crybaby, a coward who acts like he has convictions and then whines and runs the second anyone argues with him, and a childish brat who probably hasn’t grown up a day since his Aqua Buddha years.
jm
October 26th, 2010
11:15 am
USinUK – since you’re apparently unaware, there are different types of bias.
“Selection bias” being the one you are engaged in. Your welcome for your psych tutorial.
http://www.umdnj.edu/idsweb/shared/biases.htm
thomas
October 26th, 2010
11:15 am
“Yet out of this alleged conspiracy of thousands in which lowlife drunks and dopers play a large part, the GOP and its allies in the Justice Department and other governnment agencies can’t find a single participant willing to admit to the conspiracy and cough up the truth?”
Do you have any proof that it is “low life drunks and dopers” who played a large part?
“There’s something in the psyche of the GOP base that needs to believe they are victims of some ill-defined but clearly treacherous group plotting against them and the country. How else can they explain the fact that they’re losing? It can’t be because they have proved themselves incompetent at governance, or that they have lost touch with the reality of life in 21st century America. There has to be some other reason, and if there isn’t they’ll invent one.”
Again you are able to know the needs of the GOP base? How?
Both of those are from the same article and one of the first ones i skimmed through.
But i am sue that is not overheated rhetoric by your standards and all, calling people low life drunks and such!
Stomp
October 26th, 2010
11:16 am
Mick @ 11:13
You are absolutely correct as one of my bosses also believed who was in the motorcade in Dallas.
If you want an EXCELLENT read on the subject get “A Simple Act of Murder” by Mark Furhman
DK
October 26th, 2010
11:16 am
“multiple organis”?
Rafe Hollister
October 26th, 2010
11:16 am
If you just sit back and read these blogs, it is down right funny the disconnect that exists in this country. Here is what I have gained from all this blather.
1. There are no valid statistics, no matter what the source, the other side disagrees. Maybe we need to quit posting stats as no one believes them anyway.
2. There are no objective sources of news, same as above.
3. We on the right. think Barry is a neo Herbert Hoover with Marxist leanings.
4. The left see Obama as Moses leading/dragging us uneducated, unsophisticated rubes to the promised land of plenty for all.
5. The days of compromise are over, neither side can stand the thought. It has to be total defeat of the other party, because they are just stupid, ignorant, and trying to destroy America.
Have a great day!
USinUK
October 26th, 2010
11:17 am
jm – selection is, by definition, bias. thus the redundancy comment.
RW-(the original)
October 26th, 2010
11:17 am
stands,
Initial press reports tell of two separate instances with the alleged victims being one from each side and the alleged perps being one from each side. In that light I can’t see how the statement should have been worded any differently than it was.
msears21
October 26th, 2010
11:17 am
Bush is a Socialist. Did ya’ see how he got down on his knees and gave the Banksters everything they wanted? Did ya’ see how Bush passed the Medical Prescription Act – a multi-trillion Dollar give away (mostly to the Pharmaceutical companies). Did ya’ notice that Obama has signed more pro-gun rights bills than Bush did in his entire 8 years?
Bush = Socialism.
Union
October 26th, 2010
11:18 am
sadly.. its obama out there stirring the race card right now.. sigh
thomas
October 26th, 2010
11:18 am
Don’t Forget
October 26th, 2010
11:13 am
On this very blog today I think there has been 2 such examples posted by other posters…
Go look at those before you committ to putting your head in the sand and asking for proof that has already been given.
Bosch
October 26th, 2010
11:18 am
Am I the only one who got lured into reading about the Umbrella Man, which lead to me watching the Zagruder film and then looking up Kennedy’s autopsy photos and reading about the Warren Commission?
jm
October 26th, 2010
11:19 am
Don’t Forget 11:10 – I’m not saying your wrong. The right is embracing some high level pundits making these statements. But the left isn’t blameless. Cynthia McKinney for starters… the NPR cast of characters…. like people who are given 35 years of airtime despite wishing AIDS on people. Wow. No firing there…. well then.
http://reason.com/blog/2010/10/21/what-wont-get-you-fired-from-n
USinUK
October 26th, 2010
11:19 am
Bosch – um. yes.
TaxPayer
October 26th, 2010
11:21 am
The Dems took Congress over in 2006. There’s where the problems began
Yup. That’s about the time the Republicans started whining about losing power and started their little poutrage and just saying no to anything.
A+A
October 26th, 2010
11:21 am
The young woman wearing the wig (no comments about the wig-I’m looking at you, tea party) was involved in confrontational dissent. It’s legal. Did she do it to disrupt the rally? Oh yeah. Good girl. I couldn’t be more proud of her. They only hit you when you’re doing it right. Or when it pleases them. She got Moveon a tremendous amount of press from this. The radical right will finally be correctly branded as a bunch of double digit thugs with a tendency toward violence. Good one.
Gator Joe
October 26th, 2010
11:21 am
Jay,
These “tough guys” who assaulted this young woman probably wouldn’t have done so, if she had been a strapping, six foot, 240lb male. I wonder if any of them ever served in the military?, on second thought they probably are too cowardly.
msears21
October 26th, 2010
11:21 am
Obama gives a couple of Trillion of stimulus after bush spent over 8 Trillion Bailing Out corrupt banks – and you stupid conservatives call Obama a “Socialist”?
Bush = Socialist. There are no bigger socialists than the republican party!
jm
October 26th, 2010
11:21 am
USinUK 11:17 – Wow. You’re just clueless.
I “selected” 4 people to play on my basketball team. I’m obviously biased against all numbers other than 4. Of course, what was I thinking? Selection does mean bias. Wowwww…..
It’s a scientific term. I’m sorry, please pull your head out of a hole.
Jay
October 26th, 2010
11:21 am
If that’s the best you got, Thomas, you have proven me correct.
The “low-lifes and dopers” phrase, by the way, was a reference to allegations by conservatives that homeless people were being used to vote multiple times. It was not in any way a reference to a political group.
thomas
October 26th, 2010
11:22 am
Jay didn’t know if you were aware but…
those are your words posted at my 11:15am I did not address it to you and didn’t want you to miss me returning your request.
Do you stand by the statement that calling a group of people low-life drunks or dopers is not heated rhetoric?
Bosch
October 26th, 2010
11:22 am
USinUK,
Huh. Well.
Mick
October 26th, 2010
11:22 am
** We on the right. think Barry is a neo Herbert Hoover with Marxist leanings**
And that is why many think you have amnesia about what happened the previous eight years….wake up please.
stands for decibels
October 26th, 2010
11:22 am
But the left isn’t blameless. Cynthia McKinney for starters… the NPR cast of characters…
I’m so old that I can remember when our “jm” claimed to be somewhat independent, politically.
Inquiring Mind
October 26th, 2010
11:24 am
Who amongst you is half-educated.
@@
October 26th, 2010
11:24 am
Can’t glean much from that video.
I’ll just take the liberal approach….the white guy stomping the white girl was probably a racist.
There….that was easy.
Bosch
October 26th, 2010
11:24 am
USinUK,
I’d never heard of the Umbrella Man personally. If you look at the Zagruder film, it is possible, it is. Is.
beavis
October 26th, 2010
11:25 am
Road Scholar, funny how for 8 every liberal progressive complained about how much Bush spent, he is spending like a drunken sailor…. So why should Obozo and his totally inexperienced bunch of idiots spend more in 18 months more than Bush did in 8 years and 2 wars, where is your outrage at Obozo? Why is it OK for the current administration to spend a trillion dollars and have nothing to show for it? If they can sell off our children’s future in America in 18 months what will we have left in 8 years?
dea
October 26th, 2010
11:25 am
Jay – quit lying to people. You said:
“The decision not to prosecute the New Black Panthers was made by the BUSH Justice Department before Obama even took office.”
False – Eric Holder decided to drop prosecution of the racist filth:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/Reverse-discrimination-in-New-Black-Panther-case-97891039.html
Fact.
RW-(the original)
October 26th, 2010
11:26 am
Thomas, I have not contributed to the overheated rhetoric
Jay B,
No disrespect intended, but you’re not really qualified to make that statement. How would you know what effect your words and one-sided stances might have on others?
jm
October 26th, 2010
11:26 am
sfd 11:22 – still voting for Barnes. Don’t like crooks.
USinUK
October 26th, 2010
11:27 am
jm – 11:21 – are you still babbling??? you first demonstrate your total ignorance about the EU, you next want to say that there WASN’T an increase in threats against the president when he was elected because the number of threats is average NOW, and now you’re babbling about polling theory in an attempt to salvage your “rep”, such as it is …
msears21
October 26th, 2010
11:27 am
beavis,
When Bushco spent $8 Trillion to bail out the banks in the fall of 2008 that pretty much destroyed our economy – for a generation! Yes, this is a 20-year Depression – the Greatest of Depressions. We’re done, no matter what Obama does or doesn’t do (although he is making it worse).
Jay
October 26th, 2010
11:28 am
No, DEA, the Washington Examiner needs to stop lying.
The decision not to prosecute was made by the Bush administration. Period.
It is well-documented fact.
jm
October 26th, 2010
11:28 am
USinUK – you’re just another leftish bull horn. I’ll take your baseless insults at me as a compliment.
ALLRIGHT!
October 26th, 2010
11:29 am
The thug that put his head on that woman represents “The Tea Party”. He is about the norm, mid to upper forties or fifties, White Man, angry because of the lies he’s been fed, and hating anyone that disagrees with him. A bunch of angry old white Thugs!
The Tea Party will kill itself. These thugs will end up alone and mad. Incidents like this (and there will be more dumbness from the Right to come, just watch) will cause sensible people who are on the fence to run away from this extreme, isolationism, racist, homophobic, hypocritical, movement. People might be mad about the economy, but not everyone shares these extreme views.
The Tea Party Thugs are weak, mean, bigoted, cowards. I would not hit ANY woman. That thug better be glad that I was not there because I would have come to her aid and he would be in the hospital right now.
Tea Party Thugs: Didn’t your mothers ever teach you not to hit women? Cowards…..
Hit me, I’ll hit your thug @zz back!!!!!
People please check the facts because the Right is about Mis-Information, Lies, Separation of Races (White folks always know more to them), no immigration, no abortions, and telling you who you can marry and who you can have in your bedroom. That is all about control, yet these Thugs scream about Limited Government? Wow. When the Right sets rules and agenda it is all about Patriotism, and when the Left does the same thing it is Socialism. Hypocracy at its best. That’s why this movement won’t last because it led by white older thugs……….
USinUK
October 26th, 2010
11:29 am
Bosch – 11:24 – years ago, I had a housemate who was from Dallas and who was a veritable font of JFK assassination factoids -
bob
October 26th, 2010
11:29 am
i thought the SEIU guys got a change of clothes
stands for decibels
October 26th, 2010
11:29 am
the Washington Examiner needs to stop lying.
I do kinda wonder what kind of “Examinations” that outfit specializes in.
Rightwing Troll
October 26th, 2010
11:30 am
ignoring the “pudding from the previous 8 years:
“You people have had your chance running on the two failed years of Hope & Change, but the proof is in the pudding.”
Great!
Now what? How are you tards gonna “fix” things? I’d love it if you did, I’m a firm believer in personal accountability and making things right.
Here’s my unanswerable question for after Tuesday:
NOW WHAT???????
USinUK
October 26th, 2010
11:30 am
jm – like I said, you keep trying to salvage that “rep” of yours … babble, babble, babble …
jm
October 26th, 2010
11:30 am
Jay / DEA – maybe someone can call the Justice Department to settle this….
It seems to me, as I recall that the Bush administration downgraded the charges, but didn’t drop them altogether. Then Holder dropped them entirely.
But I’m pretty sure I don’t care about this issue much one way or the other, so have at it firing at my recollection of events.
jt
October 26th, 2010
11:30 am
paleo-neoCarlinist-
I only posted that in the interest of knowledge.
I had no idea what Jay eluded to. Unlike most, I will admit to my ignorance.
I was not the only one that didn’t know about that umbrella man. quite interesting.
Regardless, look up the word STOMP. Jay is imbibing in flaming rhetoric.
It will not help.
KNEEL to AQUABUDDHA.
ALLRIGHT!
October 26th, 2010
11:31 am
foot on the womans head…
Inquiring Mind
October 26th, 2010
11:31 am
Jay,
Don’t you realize that your every post, given their lack of praise for all things right wing, can do nothing but bring out the compassionate conservative hate speak.
Bosch
October 26th, 2010
11:31 am
“The Tea Party will kill itself. These thugs will end up alone and mad. ”
And they are usually the ones with guns.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
USinUK,
You better watch out — jm can be quiet the leg humper, even when you don’t address any of his comments.
Ragnar Danneskjöld
October 26th, 2010
11:32 am
Robert Bork’s America is a land in which women would be forced into back-alley abortions, blacks would sit at segregated lunch counters, rogue police could break down citizens’ doors in midnight raids, schoolchildren could not be taught about evolution, writers and artists would be censored at the whim of government, and the doors of the federal courts would be shut on the fingers of millions of citizens for whom the judiciary is often the only protector of the individual rights that are the heart of our democracy.
paleo-neoCarlinist
October 26th, 2010
11:32 am
Del, is there a difference between a coward and a bully? I too believe Rand Paul will win next week, which makes this all the more disturbing. and given my response to jt re: the umbrella man, it is possible the man in the blue shirt was actually a “liberal operative” but I don’t see what you see.
msears21
October 26th, 2010
11:32 am
Rightwing Troll,
The Economic Depression that started in 2007 isn’t going away for at least a generation. In 2020 you will look back at 2010 as being the “Good ‘Ole Days” – we’ll still be in a Depression. America’s Economy is toast. To blame such a catastrophe solely on Obama is wrong – it went way back.
paleo-neoCarlinist
October 26th, 2010
11:33 am
@@, actually a “white guy stomping a white girl” would make him a misongynist. get your “ists” straight.
Don't Forget
October 26th, 2010
11:34 am
thomas
October 26th, 2010
11:18 am
Don’t Forget
October 26th, 2010
11:13 am
On this very blog today I think there has been 2 such examples posted by other posters…
Go look at those before you committ to putting your head in the sand and asking for proof that has already been given.
Thomas, I didn’t see any such posts and wonder why you did not repeat them. Regardless though, you miss the point. The effect of what a random blogger or protester says is simply not comparable to the effect of what a media person with a following in the millions says. I will not suggest you have your head in the sand but rather in some other dark place.
USinUK
October 26th, 2010
11:34 am
Bosch – “You better watch out — jm can be quiet the leg humper”
no wonder he has problems spelling “orgasms”
One Nation Under educated
October 26th, 2010
11:34 am
doa – Every thing I typed is the Truth. Every rebuttal is word-for-word Fox News talking poots. But let me congratulate you. Your parroting skills are formidable. In doing that, however, you prove the point.
Original post stands. Lie – rinse – Repeat. I’d rest my case, but I’m an Accountant.
Matti
October 26th, 2010
11:35 am
…we are reaping the harvest of hatred sown by overheated rhetoric that treats political disagreement as betrayal and political opponents as a dire threat to America’s existence.
Preach it, Brother Bookman!
Bosch
October 26th, 2010
11:36 am
I find it funny that our wingnut friends mention staged attacks when we have the likes of that twerpy film maker and the woman who carved an “O” on her face and such.
Eric
October 26th, 2010
11:36 am
They’ll vote for the tea bags, they’ll get what they deserve and the rest of us will all be screwed until the pendulum swings the other way….which I expect to happen pretty quickly this time.
Rafe Hollister
October 26th, 2010
11:36 am
Allright
Speaking of heated rhetoric. Let me guess, you are not a white person? Sounds like you have the world all figured out, if only you could convince everyone else, we could all love one another right now.
dea
October 26th, 2010
11:37 am
Hey Jay – how about Philadelphia Weekly?
“After the 2008 incident, the Bush Administration brought charges to members of the New Black Panther party, accusing them in a civil complaint of violating the Voter Rights Act. After coming into office and initially pursuing the case, the Obama Administration dismissed the charges after a member agreed not to carry a deadly weapon near a polling place”
http://blogs.philadelphiaweekly.com/phillynow/2010/07/06/2008-new-black-panther-polling-intimidation-case-heats-up/
Seriously, are you just delusional or what? Give up on the fiction that it was anything other than a racist decision by Obama’s administration. You’re just looking like a fool. Where did you get this idea that the Bush administration dropped the charges? They’re the ones which were moving the case forward.
Rightwing Troll
October 26th, 2010
11:38 am
“Can’t glean much from that video.
I’ll just take the liberal approach….the white guy stomping the white girl was probably a racist.
There….that was easy.”
Really? A bunch of agitated white rednecks holding a LITTLE GIRL down with thier feet. I wouldn’t even really call that little push a “stomp” but THERE IS NOTHING THAT CAN JUSTIFY what was on that video unless that girl had pulled a gun or weapon.
What on earth can a little girl do do warrant being thrown to the ground by 800 lbs of old men and be held down with thier feet? What? If she was intruding unlawfully, shouldn’t the fine upstanding “rule of law” folks simply handle the correct way, and have her removed from thier rally?
If that were my daughter, I’d be over at that dudes house.
Conservitards and hate baggers gotta love em…
Matti
October 26th, 2010
11:39 am
One Nation Under Educated,
That you live and speak gives me hope. The truth shall set us free!
Don't Forget
October 26th, 2010
11:39 am
jm, my recollection is that the Bush administration decided not to pursue criminal charges and Holder/Obama decided not to pursue civil charges.
msears21
October 26th, 2010
11:39 am
This country is getting bitter because we are in the midst of an Economic Depression that will be with us for a Generation. People want to pretend that it will get better – but it won’t. The Government threw the middle class overboard 30 years ago and it’s been getting worse ever since. In 2020 you will look back at the year 2010 as being a year of ease and prosperitty. It gets worse from here on out unless we recognize who is doing this to us – and stop them.
jm
October 26th, 2010
11:40 am
Don’t Forget 11:39 – that sounds about right to me too….
Travis McGee
October 26th, 2010
11:42 am
There is none so blind as he who will not see.
The problem just may be that if you get what you want you may not want what you get?
Ignorance abounds. . . .and knows no bounds.
And, so it goes. . . .
Atlas Shrugging
October 26th, 2010
11:42 am
As demonstrated daily in your Blog Jay, YOU are an instigator of hatred… clean up your on act!
demsdatdoneseendeelight
October 26th, 2010
11:42 am
violence is not acceptable……just curious as to why you post this video and not the one several months ago when SEIU thugs beat a black vendor at a TEA Party rally??? really the ajc’s bias is really getting too obvious!
AmVet's Mystery Meat
October 26th, 2010
11:42 am
Bosch
October 26th, 2010
11:31 am
Leg humper comment was funny the first time… now a hundred times later – not so much.
Epic FAIL! Gee, I wonder who has said that before?
Bunch of damn dorks.
Southern Comfort
October 26th, 2010
11:43 am
If you start with Aaron Burr and Alexander Hamilton that get hurt bit may have already happened.
Touche!!!!
paleo-neoCarlinist
October 26th, 2010
11:43 am
jt, just passing along the info. it speaks to the larger question of the influence of the media, and how easy it is to “influence” the media. to a certain extent Del is right; in the age of video cell phones, YouTube and 24 hour news; the disinformation presented by the media is more valuable than the “information” sought by Americans. for an alternative take on this, heck out Jon Stewart’s analogy (monkey’s throwing feces at the zoo) and the importance of a “fair an balanced” zoo keeper.
Matti
October 26th, 2010
11:43 am
Rightwing Troll,
It’s amazing, isn’t it? I’m a petite little thing myself, and attended one of my Congressman’s town hall meetings on health care last year. The crowd was huge, and I offered periodic dissenting comments from my chair. A 200+ pound doctor barged over and stood over me, red-faced, screaming, jabbing his fat finger in my face…. where I was seated with my child! How DARE these people claim to be righteous when they behave in such a manner? To people who think that’s nothing, imagine being accosted thusly by someone more than twice your size. Had he actually punched me in the face as I thought he was about to do, I doubt anyone would have intervened.
Paulo977
October 26th, 2010
11:44 am
Some INFO on Teapartiers!!!
The Tea Party movement: deluded and inspired by billionaires