GOP leaders steering for the iceberg
U.S. Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind. (AP photo)
Mike Pence, Republican of Indiana, is chairman of the House Republican Conference and is the third highest ranking Republican in the House. Yesterday, in a visit to Florida, he discussed his plans should the GOP take control of the House of Representatives.
TAMPA – Indiana Congressman Mike Pence, a likely 2012 presidential contender, told a gathering of local Republicans Thursday night that Republicans will refuse to compromise with the Obama administration on health care, the economy or anything else if they win the House majority back Nov. 2.
Pence also told the crowd of several hundred Republicans that the nation’s future is at risk, and the country could become a failed power if Republicans don’t win….
“The last Republican Congress didn’t suffer from too little compromise, it suffered too much,” he said. If they retake the majority, he said, there can be “no compromise that allows more borrowing, more spending, more deficits and more debt … no compromise on stopping their government takeover of health care.”
“If I didn’t make myself clear, no compromise,” he said. “We didn’t come this far to … seek consensus with the political liberal elite in Washington.”
Pence’s comments about “no compromise that allows more borrowing, more spending, more deficits and more debt” are particularly interesting, given that sometime next spring, Congress will be required to raise the nation’s debt ceiling or face a shutdown of the government.
I think it’s pretty clear where we’re headed, which is directly into the iceberg. In fact, a good portion of the GOP seems downright giddy at the prospect of hearing the popping of rivets, the shearing of metal, the inrush of water and the cries of those trapped below deck.
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chuck
October 22nd, 2010
3:10 pm
Matti, I am ticked off by that. The problem is with the FIRST LAW, you know, the one that REQUIRED hospitals to treat people who can’t pay and don’t have insurance.
John
October 22nd, 2010
3:11 pm
@chuck
“OKAY, time for a little Social Studies Lesson for Bosch and others. Socialism is defined as government CONTROL of the means of production and distribution, not necessarily ownership. If the government dictates what providers must provide for patients and tells them what treatments they can and cannot use, which this bill does, it’s probably socialism. If the government MANDATES that all citizens PURCHASE a said product they are controlling Distribution, also socialist. If it walks like a duck…well, it ain’t necessartily AFLAC.”
Does that mean every state in the nation is a since we are mandated by the states to carry car insurance. Remember, a Republican governor who ran for President as a Republican in 2008 and looks like will run in 2012, singed into law a healthcare bill in the state of Massachusetts that requires all residents to have health insurance. The Federal Health Care law was modeled after this one which was first propose by Republicans during the Clinton administration. That means Republicans are socialist.
If it walks like a duck…
getalife
October 22nd, 2010
3:11 pm
“You have to remember the Republican Party is completely owned by Big Business. Anything they say or do has to be understood in this contex.”
We remember.
Bad memories.
Bosch
October 22nd, 2010
3:14 pm
Matti,
“The problem is with the FIRST LAW, you know, the one that REQUIRED hospitals to treat people who can’t pay and don’t have insurance.”
Yeah, me too — personally I wish that we let our citizens die in the street for all to witness so that we are all reminded that if you can’t pay for health care, then you need to get off your lazy ass and work harder and get a job with insurance dammit, but that’s just me.
Bosch
October 22nd, 2010
3:15 pm
Is it my imagination or did SoCo just write kick ass groove?
Matti
October 22nd, 2010
3:15 pm
chuck,
So you’d sleep better at night knowing the four-year-old child of uninsured, minimum-wage laborers would suffer the horrific pain of a burst eardrum rather than receive a shot of penicillin in the middle of the night from an ER doc?
How very….
chuck
October 22nd, 2010
3:15 pm
Bosch, you asked whether or not it was socialist, nothing more or less. By definition it is not. Most employers offer both a PPO, an HMO and a high option that allows you to dictate procedures within limits of exclusions like lipo or something like that. Most people buy the HMO or PPO plans because they are cheaper.
Mick
October 22nd, 2010
3:16 pm
Social security is as american as apple pie…why do some hate america?
Southerner in NENG
October 22nd, 2010
3:16 pm
Remember kids, the bailouts started before Obama took office. When the ship’s sinking you better bail or you sink. The GOP is ready to let the ship sink, while they stand on the deck issuing another cute, totally meaningless, proclamation about how they will “man-up” against the left-wing conspiracy. Wake up America, these guys take you for idiots. Like all other refomers, Obama will be a victim of the deep-pocketed special interest groups who have no intention of letting the status quo change. And the ignorant masses hear their sound bites and fall in step. This country was founded by liberal-thinkers – the conservatives wanted to stay loyal to the king of England. The right-wingers even process to follow the greatest liberal in history – Jesus Christ – in their quest for more for themselves. A sad state of affairs indeed!
Bosch
October 22nd, 2010
3:17 pm
John,
You know, I wouldn’t doubt that if Romney won the GOP nomination and that fact (about health care) was put to the average GOP voter (especially ones like we see here on the ol’ blogo), they would still vote for him.
John
October 22nd, 2010
3:17 pm
@chuck
“That’s not correct Mick, State governments don’t mandate auto insurance coverage for people who don’t drive. By choosing to drive, you choose the responsibilities that go along with it. ”
Let me get this straight. If I’m mandated to get auto insurance coverage because I choose to drive…it’s not socialism. But if I’m mandated to get health care insurance because I choose to live in this country, then it is socialism. Did I get it right, chuck?
Bosch
October 22nd, 2010
3:18 pm
chuck,
“By definition it is not.”
But by your definition of socialistic, it is, because, by action, that’s exactly what they do.
Maggie
October 22nd, 2010
3:20 pm
Barnie Frank is hauling in big bucks from the banks he bailed out and regulated in a desperate fight to hang onto his seat as the truth about how much Fannie Mae’s bail out is going to cost me and you comes out. It seems that after all the liberal/progressives were just tools of the big banks. After all Obama got big bucks from the biggest wall street banks too.
Only the wilfully delusional thought the big banks were backers of the Republicans.
King of the world
October 22nd, 2010
3:20 pm
The Titanic didn’t strike an iceberg, it was torpedoed by a German Sub. Just like our ship of state is being scuttled by the GOP.
chuck
October 22nd, 2010
3:21 pm
jo0hn, I already answered the question of auto ins. As to the Mass. healthcare law, I do think it is a socialist law, even though states are different. Mitt Romney is decidedly NOT a conservative regardless of the Party to which he ascribes. I am a conservative and therefore vote republican MOST of the time. I would NOT vote for Romney if he was the 2012 nominee. I would sit out the election if he was my only choice.
Normal, I am in my 50’s and if I had been allowed to keep the miney that I was forced to pay to Social Security, I would soon be retired.
John
October 22nd, 2010
3:21 pm
Of course, Bosch. The easiest way to get Republicans to be against something is for Obama to say he’s for it. Republicans vote against bills they sponsor after Obama supports it.
TnGelding
October 22nd, 2010
3:22 pm
If they had worked with the Blue Dogs they would have kept the majority. We simply can’t let them back in. Pledge to vote Libertarian! But Pence will change his tune if they do prevail. The answers to most problems are simple if there is the poitical will to solve them. The filibuster and veto pen will bring them back to reality. But it’s too late to privatize SS and tort reform and energy independence are red herrings. Just letting the Bush changes in the tax rates expire will eliminate half the deficit and bringing the troops home the other half. And with the elections over look for corporate America to start investing again. But the party is over for those of us who failed to prepare for the emergence of China, India and the rest of the developing economies.
How do you create jobs? Get a loan from the SBA! Lockheed would be surprised to learn government doesn’t create any jobs. And how many jobs do those jobs support? Ditto for NASA, NIH and many other agencies.
Union
October 22nd, 2010
3:23 pm
@ jay.. you still sore at me?
sitting at an airport.. not atl.. this one is nice..
md
October 22nd, 2010
3:26 pm
For those here that think the hc bill will make things better, I would recommend that you research the MA plan – the one this is modeled after.
All their projections were wrong…….I repeat wrong.
Costs are all HIGHER….
and trips to emergency room HIGHER – they found out that those that were going to the emergency room liked the convenience sooo much, that they now go all the time with their new insurance cards – screw that waiting to get into the doctors office crap.
Be careful what you wish for – most everything has unintended consequences.
chuck
October 22nd, 2010
3:27 pm
No Matti, BUT, I do think that MOST hospitals would go ahead and treat the 4 year-old. BY CHOICE, not by mandate. I also think that we would have MANY more free clinics if it were not for that law. We used to have over 75 in the Atlanta area. That number has dwindled since the law went in to effect. Charities choose to use their money elsewhere since ER help is available.
Bosch
October 22nd, 2010
3:27 pm
JOHN!! You just gave me an idea — I’ve got to get this delivered to the DNCC pronto!
OKAY, so, Obama says he wants these things called HMOs and PPOs and this new thing called…..oh, what can we call it…..say, “health ensurance” (with an “e” instead of an “i” — who cares it’s not like the wingnuts’ll look it up or anything) — okay, and he says that we want THEM to pay for health care and that THEY will dictate who will be able to get covered and what doctor they can see, and THEY will tell which hospital you can go to and how much things will cost.
And bingo! just like that ! Single payer system……
Do you think they’ll pay me for this nugget of knowledge?
chuck
October 22nd, 2010
3:28 pm
Yeah John, you and Bosch base all of your arguments in reality…assuming your reality is Bizarro World.
Union
October 22nd, 2010
3:28 pm
md.. i dont think anyone realized this.. but if you have an HSA and you used it for over the counter medication.. no more!
Jefferson
October 22nd, 2010
3:30 pm
When the folks that like the health system like it is get dropped they will change their tune. Too high, welcome to the jungle baby.
Matti
October 22nd, 2010
3:31 pm
Be careful what you wish for – most everything has unintended consequences.
Had the insurance companies only scrooed over 30 percent fewer people than they did, then this bill never would have happened. It was the parade of scrooed testifying before Congress that put it over the top. We could say this bill is the unintended consquence of telling American citizens to go scroo themselves. (Kaiser told me!) Every once in a rare while, we manage to get Congress on our side… sort of.
Bosch
October 22nd, 2010
3:31 pm
md,
“All their projections were wrong…….I repeat wrong.
Costs are all HIGHER….”
As I said earlier, I’m not big fan of the hc bill, but really, how do you know this considering it’s not been implemented? How does anybody REALLY know that? I mean, I know there are smart economists out there (some who’ve said the exact opposite of what you wrote) — so really, don’t you think we should pass judgment after it’s implemented and just SEE if our lives are ruined and we all have to live in vans down by the river first?
Mick
October 22nd, 2010
3:31 pm
bosch
Don’t you think rooney would make a good linebacker in the nfl?
Bosch
October 22nd, 2010
3:32 pm
“assuming your reality is Bizarro World”
As Uncle Scar in the Lion King said, “You have NO idea.”
Bwaahahahahahahaha.
Union
October 22nd, 2010
3:34 pm
jobs were down.. economy was done.. polling was against the hc bill.. but obama.. well.. it was his given right to get it pushed down the throats.. anyway..
so you want hc? go work for the cal university system.. 5 years of service will get you hc for life.. who gets the shaft in that deal?
Bosch
October 22nd, 2010
3:34 pm
Mick,
As in Wayne? Oh yes. He could be a one man defense. He’s a mad beast.
chuck
October 22nd, 2010
3:35 pm
Bosch he was talking about the Mass. law that the federal law was modeled after.
Union
October 22nd, 2010
3:35 pm
@ bosch.. im glad youre keeping the sanity here.. ppl getting a little too wound up and personal today.. sigh.. (plus i dinged bookman.. didnt go over well)
Jefferson
October 22nd, 2010
3:35 pm
Higher costs is what it will take to get the health problems solved, just wait, this is part of the plan.
Mick
October 22nd, 2010
3:36 pm
Yes, wayne rooney, he could cut loose and hit people with the benefit of using his hands. I’d make him a punter/linebacker used for rush passing. Think of the pr benefit. I actually enjoy his aggressive soccer game.
Jay
October 22nd, 2010
3:37 pm
Sore at you, Union? What on earth for?
Harry Callahan
October 22nd, 2010
3:38 pm
Sorry guys, had to take a phone call. Business first.
Anybody seen AmVet??? Guess my three simple questions locked up his hard drive.
chuck
October 22nd, 2010
3:38 pm
BTW Matti, most of the ‘ER’ costs derive from people who go there needlessly. Many of those are addicts who are trying to get pain killers. We live in a world where TOO MANY are just trying to scam the system. THAT is where your higher costs are coming from.
Bosch
October 22nd, 2010
3:39 pm
UNION! You should have been here yesterday, people were picking on me.
Yes, chuck, the same law that had a few hundred amendments thrown in there by the GOP Congress whiners who got their compromise and then didn’t vote for it — modeled after the MA law implemented by a big giant Republican Governor who then goes around lambasting the HC Bill —
If what I live in is Bizarro World, and what the GOPers live in is sanity, I like my world better!
Union
October 22nd, 2010
3:39 pm
for my earlier comment.. i apologize if it seemed personal at all.. i know you would never remember this.. but back in the day.. maybe 10 or more years ago.. you and i had an email conversation at length regarding one of your columns.. you were quite the gentleman then and now.
md
October 22nd, 2010
3:39 pm
Bosch – the MA plan has been in effect for 4 years………………..
Matti – replacing crap with crap gives one crap……………
John
October 22nd, 2010
3:39 pm
@chuck
“Yeah John, you and Bosch base all of your arguments in reality…assuming your reality is Bizarro World.”
Which argument are you referring to? I just repeated your argument which is a under some cases mandates are socialist but in other cases mandates are not socialist. To put it in generic terms…if person A is mandated to buy product A based on action A, it’s not socialist. But if person A is mandated to buy product B based on action B, it is socialist.
Bosch
October 22nd, 2010
3:39 pm
Jefferson,
“just wait, this is part of the plan.”
Hehehehehehe. Just like the Cylons…..oh wait.
Jay
October 22nd, 2010
3:40 pm
I guess I haven’t seen it. But otherwise occupied …
Union
October 22nd, 2010
3:40 pm
bosch.. ppl forget.. its the difference of thought and opinion that make this such a great place..
I would have defended you.. unless it was about hc.. lol
Pogo
October 22nd, 2010
3:40 pm
Jay is a drama queen.
Mick
October 22nd, 2010
3:41 pm
Harry, you are not in the same league as amvet but rather a one dimensional thinker who is a legend in his own mind.
Union
October 22nd, 2010
3:41 pm
Jay
October 22nd, 2010
3:40 pm
I guess I haven’t seen it. But otherwise occupied …
you did.. it was about aps..
Bosch
October 22nd, 2010
3:42 pm
md,
Yes, and correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t like, I don’t know all the people in Massachusetts like it?
J/K — but isn’t it like 75%? I think Jay put up that number once…..can’t find the poll.
Harry Callahan
October 22nd, 2010
3:42 pm
Southern Comfort
October 22nd, 2010
2:20 pm
“As Bosch said, if it were socialist, you would pay insurance to the government, care would be provided by the government, hospitals would be owned by the government, and the medicines and tools used would be provided by the government. I don’t think that’s the case, so the argument about the system being socialist does not hold water.”
Best advice I have for you is don’t get your information from Bosch in the future, unless you’re aiming to look silly. None of that stuff you mention is required to make health care socialist. If government levies taxes on those who already have health are, and uses the revenue to purchase it for those who don’t, it’s socialist. I think you’ll find that Obama’s bill does exactly that.
Glad I could help you out with that.
Union
October 22nd, 2010
3:42 pm
leaving on a jet plane is my song for the day.. aka “oh babe i hate to go”
Jefferson
October 22nd, 2010
3:42 pm
Until it becomes EVERYONE’S problem it doesn’t seem important if only the working poor can’t afford health care.
md
October 22nd, 2010
3:42 pm
“modeled after the MA law implemented by a big giant Republican Governor who then goes around lambasting the HC Bill”
Yep, he was about as proud of that loser bill as the dems are of this loser bill. Seen any dem campaign adds with the proud papas touting this crappy bill???
Jay
October 22nd, 2010
3:43 pm
Then I guess I didn’t realize I should have been offended. Falling down on my drama queen duties, I guess.
Harry Callahan
October 22nd, 2010
3:44 pm
John
October 22nd, 2010
2:27 pm
“2) They espouse massive transfers of wealth from the top 10% or so of wage earners to those below”
Unlike Republicans who want to take it away from those below and give it to the top 10%. They clamor about corporate taxes being too high and should be cut when GE and other large corporations paid 00.00% in taxes last year. Google paid less than 3%. I wouldn’t mind paying 00.00% in taxes. Republicans believe in giving loopholes where they do pay the rates they should be paying.”
John, why don’t you give us one example of Republicans taking from those below and giving to the top 10%? Thanks in advance.
Union
October 22nd, 2010
3:44 pm
@ jay.. heck no! you seemed a tad bit tense earlier today
Bosch
October 22nd, 2010
3:44 pm
Mick,
“I’d make him a punter/linebacker used for rush passing. ”
Ya’ know, now that I think about it — he could probably score a field goal from the one yard line on the other side of the field. Just put him out there and show him the goal posts and say — “do it!”
He’s a mad beast, that one. I like to watch him play too, you know, him being a mad beast and all.
md
October 22nd, 2010
3:45 pm
“J/K — but isn’t it like 75%? I think Jay put up that number once…..can’t find the poll.”
From what I have read, depends on how the question is asked. Kind of like “do you like this crap or the other crap?”
Bosch
October 22nd, 2010
3:46 pm
Union @ 3:45,
Some people really take this too seriously. Thanks.
Harry Callahan
October 22nd, 2010
3:46 pm
Mick
October 22nd, 2010
3:41 pm
“Harry, you are not in the same league as amvet but rather a one dimensional thinker who is a legend in his own mind.”
In that case, I would think a mental giant like AmVet could have easily answered my three simple questions, in his own words and not with a cut-and-paste, as opposed to running away scared like a mouse chased by a cat.
Nowayouttshere
October 22nd, 2010
3:47 pm
Dam Dam Dam — How in the world can a Party that has driven this bus for 24 of the lasy 32 yeas years WASH their hands of the serious pile of Sh___ we are faced with scooping our way out of now. No comprimise why hell you have played the Harlot to big business and greed for all of these years and NOW you want to keep you skit down well just DAM! Billy C – yeah he did the do but when he did her she volunteered. What the Rrep party has done, fist rpaed this country for 24 years and now they cannot see why it is not clearing up in less than three makes my eyes hurt
Harry Callahan
October 22nd, 2010
3:48 pm
Real American
October 22nd, 2010
2:23 pm
“No, the conservatives idiots want state to control their lives, thank God for goverment most of you conservatives would still be making $3 hours”
No, YOU would be making $3/hour. I make well over $100K.
Bosch
October 22nd, 2010
3:48 pm
md,
Maybe, but I don’t think there is a big push in MA to change it. Now, I could be wrong, but I don’t think so.
AmVet
October 22nd, 2010
3:49 pm
No, Bill Callahan.
And must you always play that stupid “Look at me scaring off (fill in the blank) game?
The only frightening thing about you is your childish, overblown sense of self-worth and stunning ignorance on a vast variety of matters, as Mick noted.
I can’t stay, but I’m sure you’ll happily hump other blogger’s legs to get the negative attention you so desperately require, any way.
Toodles…
Hope to be back in the picture later, for the Friday night sing along at JBs!
John
October 22nd, 2010
3:49 pm
“Yes, chuck, the same law that had a few hundred amendments thrown in there by the GOP Congress whiners who got their compromise and then didn’t vote for it — modeled after the MA law implemented by a big giant Republican Governor who then goes around lambasting the HC Bill — ”
Bosch, you forgot to mention this was closer to the bill the Republicans sponsored during the Clinton administration including the mandates when Hillary was pushing for a single payer system. The same Republicans who singed that bill have now decided it is unconstitutional. When questioned about it, they said they have had time to think about it and have now come to realize it’s unconstitutional.
I guess they have seen the light…just as they claim to have seen the light since they lost Congress in 2006.
jewcowboy
October 22nd, 2010
3:49 pm
Union,
Here you go…hopefully your fa’s are as lovely and as talented:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lqh8e2KYIrU
Harry Callahan
October 22nd, 2010
3:50 pm
Real American
October 22nd, 2010
2:33 pm
“Harry: Which Rush L. are we talking, the one that never finish high school, or the one that pretends he is a conservative and yet has a close relation ship with Elton John?”
You mean the Rush L. that dropped out of high school but makes more money in an hour than you make all year? Yes, that’s the Rush L. I’m talking about. Thanks.
Dusty
October 22nd, 2010
3:51 pm
Yeah, sure. GOP leaders are steering for the iceberg. Meanwhile, Democrats are driving us over the cliff.
If this wasn’t such a great country, I’d be mad as all getout at such palaver.
. But I realize that this is just the usual Bookman histrionics used to brighten a blog. Same ol same ol.stuff.
Bosch
October 22nd, 2010
3:52 pm
John,
Oh YEAH!! I did fail to mention that. Thanks for posting it to help edify our education.
“When questioned about it, they said they have had time to think about it and have now come to realize it’s unconstitutional.
I guess they have seen the light…just as they claim to have seen the light since they lost Congress in 2006.”
Of course they did, how can we be so stupid?
Harry Callahan
October 22nd, 2010
3:52 pm
By the way, Mr. Real American, be careful about calling Rush a high school dropout. According to Wikipedia,
“Limbaugh began his career in radio as a teenager in 1967 in his hometown of Cape Girardeau, using the name Rusty Sharpe.[2][4] Limbaugh graduated from Cape Girardeau, Missouri Central High School, in 1969.”
Where did you hear that he dropped out of high school? Keith Olberman? You feeling stupid yet?
Bosch
October 22nd, 2010
3:53 pm
Hey DUSTY!!!!
Harry Callahan
October 22nd, 2010
3:54 pm
AmVet
October 22nd, 2010
3:49 pm
No, Bill Callahan.
And must you always play that stupid “Look at me scaring off (fill in the blank) game?
The only frightening thing about you is your childish, overblown sense of self-worth and stunning ignorance on a vast variety of matters, as Mick noted.
I can’t stay, but I’m sure you’ll happily hump other blogger’s legs to get the negative attention you so desperately require, any way.
Toodles…
Hope to be back in the picture later, for the Friday night sing along at JBs”
….and yet, still, the Great Wizard can’t answer my three easy questions. Be careful there, AmVet, I think Toto just pulled back the curtain and exposed you…
Jefferson
October 22nd, 2010
3:54 pm
Can’t fix it until its BROKE.
chuck
October 22nd, 2010
3:55 pm
Bosch, you should probably stay there. All of these confrontations with reality MUST BE taking a toll on you. Especially when you say that the Republicans got “hundreds of amendments added to the HC bill.” Please NAME 5 for me. There are none. During the WRITING of the bill some Republican ideas got into the thing, but when they voted, all 40 republican amendments were defeated.
That’s sort of like you going to dinner and ordering steak, baked potato, asparagus, creme brule and a glass of water and the waiter brings JUST the glass of water but expects you to pay for the entire order.
The fact that a few republican ideas got into the bill doesn’t change the fact that the bill was HORRIBLE.
md
October 22nd, 2010
3:55 pm
“Maybe, but I don’t think there is a big push in MA to change it. Now, I could be wrong, but I don’t think so.”
“In 2006, the state of Massachusetts passed a sweeping overhaul of the state’s health-care system. The system, which influenced the Obama administration’s plans for national reform, has since faced unexpected and unchecked growth in costs, both to the government and individuals, forcing the government to cut benefits and raise taxes. Now analysts say that without significant policy changes, the program’s long-term viability is in doubt.”
“the program’s long-term viability is in doubt”………………..they best be thinking about doing something……………
Bosch
October 22nd, 2010
3:55 pm
WHAT? FACEBOOK IS DOWN???? AAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
Bosch
October 22nd, 2010
3:56 pm
md,
And that is from………????????
Harry Callahan
October 22nd, 2010
3:57 pm
…and by the way, Mr. Real American, why do you say;
“pretends he is a conservative and yet has a close relation ship with Elton John?”
Who told you that conservatives can’t hang out with gay entertainers? You hear that on Olberman’s show too, or was it Maddow? Oh I forgot…all conservatives are bigots/racists/homophobes just because you like to think it, right?
Harry Callahan
October 22nd, 2010
3:58 pm
Poor little AmVet…scared to hang out on his favorite blog because Harry asked him three easy questions, and poked a hole in all that bluster…
Bosch
October 22nd, 2010
3:59 pm
chuck,
Here ya’ go:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/health-care-meeting/republican-ideas
Matti
October 22nd, 2010
3:59 pm
Bosch,
No man, I was just ON FB. BTW, I suspect you and I might already be friends under different names.
jewcowboy
October 22nd, 2010
3:59 pm
Bosch,
“AAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTXSIxWbumo
md
October 22nd, 2010
3:59 pm
And just for emphasis, the State that has the program also has the HIGHEST premiums in the country……………oh joy.
md
October 22nd, 2010
4:00 pm
“And that is from………????????”
Google it Bosch and take your pick……………
Harry Callahan
October 22nd, 2010
4:01 pm
Bosch
October 22nd, 2010
3:00 pm
“It astonishes me that people fight so hard for the right to be uninsured.”
Interesting…because it always astonishes me how hard people fight for the right to squabble over crumbs doled out by mindless government beaurocrats.
jewcowboy
October 22nd, 2010
4:02 pm
Harry Callahan,
“Poor little AmVet…scared to hang out on his favorite blog because Harry asked him three easy questions, and poked a hole in all that bluster…”
You know some people do have other things to do…and I am quite sure you are not the center of AmVet’s world.
Bosch
October 22nd, 2010
4:02 pm
Matti,
Oh, I hope so. Just don’t tell anyone here about, you know…..THAT thing I was talking about, you know? THAT thing.
Harry Callahan
October 22nd, 2010
4:03 pm
…or, stated another way, if AmVet spent as much time working at a job as he does reading all this corporate conspiracy nonsense he bores us with daily, even HE might make it to the top 20%.
Bosch
October 22nd, 2010
4:04 pm
“Google it Bosch and take your pick……………”
Well damn md, how rude.
John
October 22nd, 2010
4:05 pm
@Harry Callahan
“John, why don’t you give us one example of Republicans taking from those below and giving to the top 10%? Thanks in advance.”
I noticed you didn’t respond to my other comments. But are you trying to say programs paid for by taxes only benefit those below? How many people you know, especially wealthy, actually pay their actual tax bracket based on loopholes, deductions, etc? Don’t have to go far, when we have a candidate for governor who paid less than 5%. I mentioned corporate taxes.
Harry Callahan
October 22nd, 2010
4:05 pm
jewcowboy
October 22nd, 2010
4:02 pm
“Harry Callahan,
You know some people do have other things to do…and I am quite sure you are not the center of AmVet’s world.”
No, but this blog is the center of his world, and I wrecked it for him. So sad.
Come on Ammy, your 3:49 post blew your cover…you’ve been lurking here all afternoon, afraid to post lest you have to own up to your inability to answer my questions without another cut-and-paste.
Abrazos
October 22nd, 2010
4:06 pm
“You mean the Rush L. that dropped out of high school but makes more money in an hour than you make all year?”
Now, let’s be kind. Rush finished high school. He FLUNKED out after two semesters at Southeast Missouri State. And he might make more money than anyone posting here today, but he still wakes up every day as a tub ‘o’ lard beside wife number 4, jonesin’ for the sweet memories of going deaf from popping 30 Oxycontin a day. He may have a sweet contract and more money than God, but it’d be hard to find anybody who’d want to switch places with him for one day.
Harry Callahan
October 22nd, 2010
4:07 pm
John
October 22nd, 2010
4:05 pm
@Harry Callahan
“John, why don’t you give us one example of Republicans taking from those below and giving to the top 10%? Thanks in advance.”
“I noticed you didn’t respond to my other comments. But are you trying to say programs paid for by taxes only benefit those below? How many people you know, especially wealthy, actually pay their actual tax bracket based on loopholes, deductions, etc? Don’t have to go far, when we have a candidate for governor who paid less than 5%. I mentioned corporate taxes.”
Dems have been in total control for almost two years now. If y ou libbies don’t like the tax code, all you have to do is pass a bill and cram it down our throats like you did Obamacare.
And you still haven’t given us one example of money being taken from those below to give to the top 10%.
jewcowboy
October 22nd, 2010
4:08 pm
Union,
Seeing as you are flying today…I feel the need to warn you to watch for crocodiles:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2010/10/22/130755927/crocodile-seen-as-culprit-in-august-plane-crash-in-congo
Bosch
October 22nd, 2010
4:08 pm
John,
Pssssst. Over here [waving hand] Don’t know if your new here, but Harry doesn’t like it when presented with cogent arguments or facts — he goes all pissy and postal like he’s doing now. Just saying.
Okay, carry on and music’s up!
Doggone/GA
October 22nd, 2010
4:08 pm
” if AmVet spent as much time working at a job as he does reading all this corporate conspiracy nonsense he bores us with daily”
Says he who has been here boring us with HIS POV since before 11:00 this morning.
jewcowboy
October 22nd, 2010
4:10 pm
Harry Callahan,
“No, but this blog is the center of his world, and I wrecked it for him. So sad.”
My, aren’t you quite the narcissist.
Harry Callahan
October 22nd, 2010
4:11 pm
Abrazos
October 22nd, 2010
4:06 pm
“Now, let’s be kind. Rush finished high school. He FLUNKED out after two semesters at Southeast Missouri State. And he might make more money than anyone posting here today, but he still wakes up every day as a tub ‘o’ lard beside wife number 4, jonesin’ for the sweet memories of going deaf from popping 30 Oxycontin a day. He may have a sweet contract and more money than God, but it’d be hard to find anybody who’d want to switch places with him for one day.”
I’m thinking he wouldn’t switch places with you either, but that’s just a guess.
John
October 22nd, 2010
4:11 pm
“By the way, Mr. Real American, be careful about calling Rush a high school dropout. According to Wikipedia, ”
Harry Callahan…while you’re at it, please tell Rush about Wikipedia as well. According to Rush, Media Matters is taking foreign donations for foreigner George Soros. Only problem is…George Soros is a naturalized citizen.
jewcowboy
October 22nd, 2010
4:12 pm
Harry Callahan,
“…or, stated another way, if AmVet spent as much time working at a job as he does reading all this corporate conspiracy nonsense he bores us with daily, even HE might make it to the top 20%.”
And your excuse?
Dusty
October 22nd, 2010
4:12 pm
Hi Bosch!!! How’s the lump on your leg and the knot on your head? Hope you feel better. Is that why you are battling over healthcare? Or you just like to pick a fight for entertainment?
I vote for vetinary care. Help you take care of those pups. Wet licks for payment.