NPR correct to cut ties with Juan Williams

NPR has fired senior news analyst Juan Williams, who also appears as a commentator on Fox News, for comments about Muslims that Williams made in an appearance with Bill O’Reilly.

As Fox News reported it:

“I mean, look, Bill, I’m not a bigot. You know the kind of books I’ve written about the civil rights movement in this country,” Williams told host Bill O’Reilly during a discussion on the dilemma between fighting jihadists and fears about average Muslims.

“But when I get on a plane, I got to tell you, if I see people who are in Muslim garb and I think, you know, they’re identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims, I get worried. I get nervous,” Williams said.

The truth is that as a commentator and analyst, Williams has been skating on his reputation for a long time, and the ice was getting thin. He had already given NPR cause for concern with previous statements on Fox, such as the time he inexplicably described Michelle Obama as “Stokely Carmichael in a designer dress.”

His denials of bigotry aside, Williams’ remarks this week validated a stereotype of all Muslims as terrorists just as a similar comment about black people — “When I get on a bus, if I see black people, I get worried, I get nervous” — validates a perception about black people as criminals.

There is no qualitative difference between the two stances. A very small percentage of black people are criminals, and a much much smaller percentage of Muslims are terrorists. But once you start defining the much larger group by the activities of that much smaller subset, you start down a very bad road.

NPR, in other words, acted appropriately.

Of course, that’s not how the incident is being taken by some on the right, where Williams is in the process of being sainted. At Andrew Breitbart’s Big Government site, the headline is “Screw Free Speech, NPR Fires Juan Williams for Muslim Remarks.” Williams’ fellow Fox News contributor, Sarah Palin, just tweeted to the effect that “NPR defends 1st Amendment Right, but will fire u if u exercise it. Juan Williams: u got taste of Left’s hypocrisy, they screwed up firing you.”

That’s nonsense. The First Amendment guarantees each of us the right to say whatever we wish, free of government interference. However, it does not guarantee us the right to be paid by NPR or anybody else to say whatever we wish. It certainly does not mean that we are free to make bigoted remarks on national television and be guaranteed a paycheck.

After James O’Keefe, the conservative guerrilla filmmaker and Breitbart’s one-time protege, launched a bizarre “seduction” of a CNN reporter recently, Breitbart cut him loose, calling O’Keefe’s antics “patently gross and offensive.” He wasn’t violating O’Keefe’s right to free speech by doing so, he was holding him accountable.

That’s all NPR has done with Williams.

1,025 comments Add your comment

stands for decibels

October 21st, 2010
12:32 pm

“I’m not a bigot.”

nor is he a crook. or a witch.

JA

October 21st, 2010
12:36 pm

Ahh, but does he own a set of handcuffs?

larry

October 21st, 2010
12:36 pm

Its a shame but working for Fox became his detremint. They were a bad influence on a very good journalist.

Well, i guess he still has one of the jobs.

RW-(the original)

October 21st, 2010
12:37 pm

In case anyone is interested here’s a place you can see the full segment, but I guess context is only for special cases.

It also has some interesting links to things that are apparently acceptable to NPR, like wishing death on a fellow citizen.

/drive by

DJ Sniper

October 21st, 2010
12:39 pm

It just kills me when conservatives use examples like this to complain about First Amendment rights being violated. Do any of these yahoos actually know what the First Amendment says? It says that CONGRESS cannot restrict free speech. Last time I checked, NPR was not part of Congress, so they are free to fire anybody they want.

Also, it’s a trip how Bill O’Reilly pretty much said something similar about Muslims on The View the other day, but you see Fox News isn’t trying to fire him for it.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

October 21st, 2010
12:39 pm

Certainly we cannot tolerate diverse views on NPR. No matter that Juan is a leftist, and the only rational one in the country, the taxpayer funds cannot be used for anything but the most politically-correct speech. Otherwise the eight listeners at NPR stations might accidentally learn something in the exchange of ideas, and we cannot risk that possibility.

Finn McCool

October 21st, 2010
12:41 pm

How do you know he’s not a witch? He’s got a big nose!

Christine O'Donnell

October 21st, 2010
12:42 pm

“Do any of these yahoos actually know what the First Amendment says?”

I do! I do! Pick me!

Lil' Barry Bailout

October 21st, 2010
12:43 pm

Well well…look at the intolerant liberal bigots eating one of their own. He’d have been fine if he didn’t take that FOX News gig, and that’s all this is about.

Liberals: Intolerant. Haters.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

October 21st, 2010
12:44 pm

Surely we can all agree that if a republican congress determined to cease sending taxpayer funds to NPR, there would be no infringement of the first amendment.

Randalph

October 21st, 2010
12:46 pm

Shouldn’t go on FOX and talk about me them Muslims! Barry get’s upset, and as NPR is OBAMARADIO, he got fired. NEVER TELL HOW YOU FEEL, that politically incorrect!

thebob.bob

October 21st, 2010
12:48 pm

He won’t last long at Fox now. His status as an NPR reporter was the reason they hired him in the first place. It allowed them to say, “hey look, a reporter from that “liberal” (read fact-based) radio network is on our network so we’re ‘balanced’. AND he’s Black so we’re not Racist either!” Now, he’s just another rightwing shill and we know how many out there will play that game.

Lil' Barry Bailout

October 21st, 2010
12:48 pm

That’s funny Ragnar.

Bryan G.

October 21st, 2010
12:49 pm

Is there anything wrong with what he said? I mean, we can all agree that not all muslims are terrorists and that to assume that they are is a terrible thing…

…but, I bet if people were honest – truly honest – a lot more people feel like that than just Juan. I’m willing to bet about 75% of Americans do the double take in the airport like he does.

Again, I don’t condone Juan feeling that way, but I think it’s a widespread fear that a lot of us have.

mm

October 21st, 2010
12:49 pm

Jay,

You know you’ve hit a wingnut nerve when they reply with “Dems did it first” or “Dems do it too”.

Or as always, RW responds at all.

AmVet

October 21st, 2010
12:50 pm

MORE Democrat and liberal (perceived or otherwise) bashing?!

At this rate, you’ll soon be demonstrating the independent even-handedness and sense of balanced fair play shown by our non-partisan regulars in the “conservative” ranks! (Eye roll.)

Seriously, Williams on Faux News always reminded of a secondary version of Alan Colmes. The almost liberal who willingly plays the fall guy for the rabid and self-righteous right-wing nuts.

His embarrassing role, like Colmes’, was to serve as the Washington Generals for the O’Reilly and Fox Globetrotters…

“Certainly we cannot tolerate diverse views on NPR.” and “Otherwise the eight listeners at NPR stations…”

Simply stunning ignorance…

Some People are stupid

October 21st, 2010
12:50 pm

You guys miss the boat completely. Can you go to your job and call your boss a fat slob. NO…why…cause you will get fired…his 1st amendment rights had nothing to do with im getting fired. If I say on tv all white people are the devil, I’m sure I would lose my job to. Just cause I have the right to say something, doesn’t mean there aren’t repercussions for what I said.

LV

October 21st, 2010
12:50 pm

Off topic:

Badly burned Texas man waits for face transplant

Federal health care law helped make him eligible for procedure

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39738484/

mm

October 21st, 2010
12:50 pm

“Surely we can all agree that if a republican congress”

Dream on.

Randalph

October 21st, 2010
12:50 pm

Yes it was wrong, it violates Sharia Law.

walter rhett

October 21st, 2010
12:51 pm

Good riddance! Juan Williams, a journalist formerly with the Washington Post, who authored the companion book to the PBS special, “Eyes on the Prize,” and who was frequently seen on Fox News and heard on NPR was fired as a news analyst by NPR. Juan was arrogant and out of touch. His bonafides were always suspect.

Many see his firing as further proof that we as a country require each statement to be “politically correct,” never speaking of other groups of people in ways that actually express our inner and truest thoughts. Why can’t a television personality be allowed to be critical of Jews, or express fear of Muslims? Or to question Obama’s birth? Why can’t journalists and others express negative views on intra-gender relationships? Why can’t blacks be criticized for their own failings? Isn’t self examination painful?

Truth is one thing, the public trust another. I am okay if someone wants to admits he or she is homophobic, racist, Islamophobic, sexist, or xenophobic. I would admire them for their open honesty. But should such a person be placed in a position of public trust, given their views? No. I don’t want them to be judges or journalists, sprouting the fear that blames those who have the right to free expression for crimes they did not commit. For those in the public realm, it should be an issue of private therapy, not public confession.

But the second part of their honesty is usually that they see nothing wrong with their self-indulgent views of bigotry and ethnocentricism. How would Juan Williams feel of people followed him in stores, thinking he might shoplift because of his color? Or if were followed home by the police because he can afford to live in a neighborhood that others may think is off limits to him due to color rather than income?

Honesty should never become a safe house for bigotry and prejudice. Confession of a crime, whether an act or idea, whether murder or bias, still carries consequences. Sure, Juan Williams has the right to be a bigot. Our compassion is to show mercy, certainly. But mercy should never endorse the sin.
–Walter Rhett
twitter.com/walterrhett

Lil' Barry Bailout

October 21st, 2010
12:52 pm

thebob.bob

He won’t last long at Fox now.
—————————–

Kind of ironic that you’re complaining about Fox putting a liberal on the air, AND for being right wing, all in the same post.

Retard.

JohnnyReb

October 21st, 2010
12:52 pm

Jay, take off the blinders! Mr Progressive money bags George Soros gives a million to NPR in his war against FOX News and immediately NPR finds a reason to fire Ron Willimas who also gets a paycheck from Fox. Williams’ comments were no worse than what Obama stated his grandmother said about black boys on the street. Tell me when you get on an aircraft and see a group of obvious Middle East young men your pulse does not increase?

Lou

October 21st, 2010
12:52 pm

http://www.slate.com/id/2271931/

Too bad most people critical of Juan did not watch the whole video where he defends Muslims. He was just stating some feelings he has which he knows is wrong.

WATCH THE WHOLE VIDEO!!!!!!!!!!

Doggone/GA

October 21st, 2010
12:52 pm

“Again, I don’t condone Juan feeling that way, but I think it’s a widespread fear that a lot of us have.”

Here’s the question, which Jay almost – but not quite, posed: if some said the same thing TO Juan Williams, but about blacks, how would HE react? Would he consider THEM to be a bigot?

Because IF he would, then he too IS a bigot…despite his assertions that he’s not.

jm

October 21st, 2010
12:53 pm

A. NPR obviously has the right to fire Williams, so be it.
B. Jay, how would you describe the terrorists that attacked us on 9/11, using ONE word other than “terrorists”.
C. Does anyone think the White House is going to be bent out of shape about the reduction in minority representation in DC reporting staff? (just kidding)

sharon zirn

October 21st, 2010
12:53 pm

I am glad Juan Williams was let go by NPR. Juan Williams is much too sophisticated, professional, and dignified to be associated with the like. I guarantee you that NPR rating will plummet, and Juan Williams career will take off. He is a person that has his finger on the pulse of the people.
You have got it wrong again AJC>

Lou

October 21st, 2010
12:53 pm

I guess a black person can’t say a group of young white men in a Chevy pickup wearing NASCAR shirts makes them nervous.

It's for real...

October 21st, 2010
12:54 pm

But then how come everyone else on FOX can spew KKK garbage at every turn?

Steve

October 21st, 2010
12:54 pm

NPR is still on the air??? I thought they were just a fire-side ghost story..

getalife

October 21st, 2010
12:54 pm

Juan who?

It is hilarious watching the cons blindly supporting cowards that cut and run from corporate media.

How weak is that?

sharon zirn

October 21st, 2010
12:56 pm

NPR is irrelevant.

Bosch

October 21st, 2010
12:56 pm

“The First Amendment guarantees each of us the right to say whatever we wish, free of government interference. ”

We need to send that to the wingnuts in bold type because it seems that they have a problem understanding what that means. You can of course say whatever the hell you want and the government can not stop you, but your advertisers and employer can.

smac

October 21st, 2010
12:56 pm

NPR’s decision to fire Juan Williams was wrong. NPR’s knee-jerk response to his comment was unjustified.
My days of entertaining politically correct rhetoric is over. As a result, I am cutting all ties with your programming in support of protecting personal rights of speech.
NPR, you’ve got people talking now! Are you listening?

JohnnyReb

October 21st, 2010
12:57 pm

Sorry, in my comment at 12:52, I typed Ron when it is suppose to be Juan.

jm

October 21st, 2010
12:58 pm

mm is unhinged and not making any sense…. just an observation.

Bosch

October 21st, 2010
12:58 pm

getalife,

“Juan who?”

That was my first impression too.

Lil' Barry Bailout

October 21st, 2010
12:59 pm

The sham NAACP report on the Tea Party and the NPR’s intolerance toward Juan Williams are coming at a really good time…nothing like giving a little more energy to conservatives.

Well played, Democrat bigots! Heh heh.

Joey

October 21st, 2010
12:59 pm

But if you said: “When I see a group of white people dressed in business garb I get nervous and worry what they might do.” Would that threaten your job?

Or if you said: “When I am walking down the street and I see a group of African-Americans standing on the corner I get nervous and worry if I should turn around.” Would that threaten your job?

AmVet

October 21st, 2010
1:00 pm

sharon, I tend to agree with your analysis about Williams.

He just played the lovable, always agreeable, subservient, flunky for the would-be bigots and theocrats on Fox.

The non neo-cons in this country are much more like the Israelis. We know that there are Muslims around us most of the time. Including in airports and on public transportation.

We just remain alert and strong.

Unlike the always uber-frightened cons who hide under their beds trembling over visions of smoking gun mushroom clouds and a mooslim terrorist behind every bush.

BOO!

Ragnar Danneskjöld

October 21st, 2010
1:01 pm

Dear Bosch @ 12:56, sorry to confuse you, but that is not what the 1st Amendment says; in relevant part, “Congress shall make no law … abridging the freedom of speech… ” So long as Congress does not create entities that favor one speech content over another, there is no violation. Has Congress created and/or funded an entity that rewards or punishes particular speech content? Reasonable minds might find that NPR is a Congressionally funded entity that punishes particular speech content.

Bosch

October 21st, 2010
1:01 pm

Eh, again, Juan’ll have a job at Fox in no time flat.

getalife

October 21st, 2010
1:01 pm

Bosch,

Just flipped on fox and they are running this story.

Over and over and over……

Lou

October 21st, 2010
1:01 pm

Jay Bookman

What if a black person said “a group of young white men in a Chevy pickup wearing NASCAR shirts makes them nervous”?

I wouldn’t blame the black person for a second. Nor do I blame any person for being on a plane and getting nervous for seeing a person wearing Muslim garb. Both stances had REASONS for existing.

@@

October 21st, 2010
1:03 pm

I’ve always appreciated Juan Williams, even though conservatives see him as left.

I think his Stokely Carmichael comparison can be tied back to his book “Enough”. Michelle, the victim???

Last I heard, he was an opinion columnist. So what….he’s not entitled to his opinion?

Too many cooks spoil the broth. He said/she said and blah…blah…blah.

jm

October 21st, 2010
1:03 pm

Jay, here’s why I love Juan Williams.

The guy is clearly a liberal, or at least left of center. And yet, he’s willing to mix it up with all the conservatives on Fox, dish it back to them, call them out when they’re being unreasonable, but agree with conservatives on issues when it seems they’re clearly right, etc. etc.

Compare this to (non-reporters obviously) people like Whoopi and the other lady who walk off the set and won’t go toe to toe with O’Reilly. Or any of the other people who won’t actually engage in debate, they just like to debate with people who are a few degrees different in opinion than they already are. That’s not a debate.

Look, if you want to debate facts, you have to face people who might disagree with you, and might even be unpleasant to talk to. Williams was willing to do that. A lot of people aren’t.

Williams is a great guy, and will find a good spot somewhere. He’ll probably make more money, be more popular, and have more liberty to express his views (if he didn’t previously). Good for Juan.

Sam

October 21st, 2010
1:03 pm

Mr. Bookman, do you believe it was right to fire Shirley Sherrod over her comments? This is exactly the same thing: a part of a speech, taken out of context, cut off just before he turns around and explains why such fears and bigotry are unjustified and wrong. Read the Slate article on it: http://www.slate.com/id/2271931/

Mirror, Mirror

October 21st, 2010
1:04 pm

I’m sure poor Juan will do just fine on FOX and it’ll be so much easier to stay in character as well.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

October 21st, 2010
1:05 pm

Well, he got fired for telling the Truth. We all feel the way he does when we see a Towelhead walking around in that desert garb. Every time I see a Towelhead woman walking around with her head and face all covered up, I look for the outlines of a bomb. And tell the truth. If you’re at a ATM and you see a couple Those People walking toward you, your first thought is they’re going to rob me. And when you see one driving a big Mercedes, your first thought is he’s a drug dealer. If you’re honest, you’ll admit you feel this way.

I can’t hardly wait till Nov. 2 so we can elect some good Tea Party people that will straighten this country up. We’ve got so politically correct you can’t even say things like “it’s as clear as black and white” without somebody getting in a snit.

Not that I’m a Rascist or anything like that.

I always thought this Juan Williams was a Conservative till people here today made things straight. He sure sounded like a Conservative to me when I seen him on Fox. I never hardly heard anything he said I disagreed with. I guess I’m just getting soft in the head from listening to all the lies Libruls tell.

Have a good p.m. everybody.

jm

October 21st, 2010
1:05 pm

Ragnar 1:01 – you’re right. Congress should end NPR funding. It’s only a minor part of their funding anyway. Time to pull the plug on congressional funding for NPR. Not out of retribution, just out of the correct principle to separate direct government funding from media.

AmVet

October 21st, 2010
1:05 pm

B. Jay, how would you describe the terrorists that attacked us on 9/11, using ONE word other than “terrorists”.

Pyschopaths?

Sociopaths?

Homicide Bombers? (Sorry, I cheated, that is two words.)

Misanthropes?

Is that what you’re after, jm?

Lil' Barry Bailout

October 21st, 2010
1:05 pm

Wow, seeing how unhinged and frothing-at-the-mouth you libbtards are now, with a Democrat dominated House and Senate, and your Idiot Messiah in the White House, I can’t wait to see your behavior after November 2!

This is gonna be fun…

Jim

October 21st, 2010
1:06 pm

NPR is the most legitimate source of journalism left in America, which is why Mr. Williams is no longer employed by them. His comments threaten NPR’s legitimacy.

Journalism. Look it up. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalism

JohnnyReb

October 21st, 2010
1:06 pm

I am surprised of the Left’s support of NPR in general. They have one program specifically targeting minorities. The rest of their programs, excluding news, targets whites. Hopefully, the William’s firing will lead to loss of their taxpayer funding and a change in name. There was already a bill in congress to do same, but of course no support from Nancy and Harry.

thomas

October 21st, 2010
1:07 pm

Kinda unfair to compare race and religion!

Race is not something we choose to be a part of.

Billybob

October 21st, 2010
1:08 pm

Sorry to burst your bubble Jay, but what happened to Juan was as follows. Even as a liberal, he did not tow the far left liberal line, so they have branded one of their own as a bigot and set him adrift. LIBERALISM 101…when someone has an opinion that differs from ‘good’ liberals, tar and feather them and call them a bigot. People are starting to see through the liberal templates that you follow weekly. Keep talking, as I tell Tucker, because you are opening eyes daily as to who really are open to all opinions, and WHO CLAIM TO BE, but are not. It is so easy to dissect libs like you and Tucker……

PF

October 21st, 2010
1:08 pm

Bookman you are incorrect. Williams is NOT saying that all Muslims are criminals. Williams is NOT “defining a much larger group by the activities of that much smaller subset”. You’ve misunderstood what he was saying.

Lil' Barry Bailout

October 21st, 2010
1:09 pm

thomas: Race is not something we choose to be a part of.
———-

That’s not what Michael Jackson thought.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

October 21st, 2010
1:09 pm

Well argued jm @ 1:05. I wish I had said that, exactly the way you said it.

AmVet

October 21st, 2010
1:10 pm

“NPR is irrelevant.”

Sharon, again I agree.

For those that are interested in getting only information from highly partisan right wing or left wing sources, it is irrelevant.

But for the millions of Americans who listen to it daily?

I guess you’ll have to ask them…

We recently released the Fall 2009 broadcast ratings for NPR from Arbitron, which pulls together all the listeners who tune into their local NPR member station. On average, more than 27 million listeners tune into at least one NPR show such as Morning Edition, All Things Considered or the hourly NPR Newscasts. NPR produces or distributes at least 25 shows each week to its member stations and you can see the Fall 2009 audience ratings for the NPR produced shows on the table below.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/gofigure/2010/04/27/126303646/how-the-audience-for-npr-programs-compare-against-the-top-shows-on-commercial-radio

@@

October 21st, 2010
1:11 pm

And NPR is getting swift backlash from other members of big media for this ridiculous move.

jay, are you not big within the AJC or is the AJC not big?

http://www.mercatornet.com/sheila_liaugminas/view/8161/

MARK

October 21st, 2010
1:13 pm

Wow, only two post in before the “Its Fox’s fault”!

thomas

October 21st, 2010
1:13 pm

Bosch

October 21st, 2010
12:56 pm

Does the situation get any cloudier if say the government sponsors said employer?

sharon zirn

October 21st, 2010
1:13 pm

I have figured out that Amvet is really Jay Bookman. AJC is irrelevant

Finn McCool

October 21st, 2010
1:14 pm

The rest of their programs, excluding news, targets whites.

what would that be? the music isn’t NPR programming. All NPR is the news and cultural programming.

Del

October 21st, 2010
1:14 pm

Here we have a well respected journalist who happens to be a liberal and an African American thrown under the bus by the left wing NPR. The far left just won’t tolerate someone making a common sense comment that clashes with their common lack of common sense perspectives even if it’s is one of their own. We saw those idiots on the View last week throwing their little immature temper tantrum and now NPR firing Juan Williams in the name of Political Correctness. Pathetic.

thomas

October 21st, 2010
1:15 pm

Lil’ Barry Bailout

October 21st, 2010
1:09 pm

Correct sir,

If one chooses i suppose one could invent their ownnew race, cause he certainly was not fitting into any of the known human races.

jm

October 21st, 2010
1:15 pm

Ragnar – and I’m glad VOA (Voice of America) is only permitted to broadcast outside of US borders. There’s a place for VOA, but not inside the US.

“Under § 501 of the Smith–Mundt Act of 1948, the Voice of America is forbidden to broadcast directly to American citizens.”

Vinny

October 21st, 2010
1:15 pm

This just goes to prove how liberals want to chill free speech. No one is allowed their own opinion unless it is in line with their twisted view of reality.

It is time to pull all government funding from NPR………………………NOW!!!

Finn McCool

October 21st, 2010
1:16 pm

from Wiki:

NPR’s flagships are two drive time news broadcasts, Morning Edition and the afternoon All Things Considered; both are carried by most NPR member stations, and from 2002–2008 they were the second and third most popular radio programs in the country.[4][5] In a Harris poll conducted in 2005, NPR was voted the most trusted news source in the U.S.

CP

October 21st, 2010
1:16 pm

I used to like NPR but now that I know that it sterilizes the news I am not so sure I trust it’s reporting. Political correctness has gotten way out of control. People should be able to speak freely and not be banished. The last few years have been filled with firings and apologies for saying things that apparently shouldn’t be said. And who are the judges of these comments? They who dare judge another’s words in the news are censoring public opinion , creating a sense of harmony where there is none and cheating the public who deserve genuine public discourse.

AmVet

October 21st, 2010
1:18 pm

“I have figured out that Amvet is really Jay Bookman.”

I’m certain this is an unintentional compliment, but thank you!

Alas, your deductive powers have failed you, sharon.

What’s the matter? Didn’t like that link showing 27,000,000 daily listeners to NPR?

LOL…

As for cutting off the funding, I hav eno problems with that at all.

But then I also insist that the mooches like Rush and others start paying for their free use of our assets as well…

Finn McCool

October 21st, 2010
1:18 pm

You want to get rid of public broadcasting? Is it evil and liberal because Lyndon Johnson signed it into law?

You want to only have private media sources? Unbiased private sources like Fox News? We don’t need more dumb americans.

Bubba Bob

October 21st, 2010
1:18 pm

Don’t know this guy but NPR is so liberal I’m surprised if you could say anything anymore except left-worship.

It ticks me off that my tax money pays for such an obviously political program.

jm

October 21st, 2010
1:18 pm

Sidebar but not entirely off-topic: Does anyone else (who listens to public radio in Atlanta) think WABE sucks? Public radio in other cities almost has continual music.

The school association, and the quasi control of classical music lovers, just kills the breadth of content NPR broadcasts elsewhere. Thank god for the internet.

Seems to me WABE should be split into 2 stations. One for classical music lovers. The other for people who would like news from NPR. I’m sure it’ll happen sometime before 2090….

MARK

October 21st, 2010
1:19 pm

AmVet, You obviously dont watch Fox, because if you did, you would see that Williams rarley agreed with others(like Beck, O’Reiley or Hannity) views

andygrd

October 21st, 2010
1:19 pm

I am boycotting NPR and they will not see another dime from me….
I respect Mr. Williams for his positions and adherence to his values.

Bubba Bob

October 21st, 2010
1:19 pm

AmVet,

Commercial radio is different than publicly funded radio. NPR should be unbiased. Commercial radio can be as liberal or conservative as it wants.

Peadawg

October 21st, 2010
1:20 pm

So b/c of political correctness, he gets fired for using his 1st Amendment Rights and stating his opinion….sad.

jm

October 21st, 2010
1:20 pm

whoops -

“Public radio in other cities almost has continual music.”

should have been

“Public radio in other cities almost has continual news / NPR content.”

Peadawg

October 21st, 2010
1:20 pm

And let me add for the record I DO NOT AGREE WITH HIM.

Baker

October 21st, 2010
1:21 pm

I read pretty far down the list of comments here looking for one name, Shirley Sherrod. If you watch the full interview with Mr. Williams, you’ll realize it’s the same situation. I’m sorry Mr. Bookman if Mr. Williams was too conciliatory with conservatives for your taste.

Chris Salzmann

October 21st, 2010
1:21 pm

Good point Jay. So its inappropriate to make offensive remarks about Blacks (as you stated in your example) or Jews (as Rick Sanchez found out) but, in many circles, it seems perfectly okay to stereotype Muslims and not be called on it. That’s the logic of the Looney Right.

If Juan Williams wants bigotry and racism to pay, he should get a job with FOX. In fact, this should get him a signing bonus.

JohnnyReb

October 21st, 2010
1:22 pm

Del@1:14 – the View thing with O’Reilly was spontaneuous, but not the Wiliams firing. There are Soros funded Progressive organizations such as the Tides Foundation and Media Matters who all have the Social Justice objective. They don’t like America and intend to “fundamentally change” it. That sounds familar, eh?

jm

October 21st, 2010
1:23 pm

Bubba Bob – I don’t think you’re up to speed on media laws. I know I’m not. But here’s a starter

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairness_Doctrine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal-time_rule

Del

October 21st, 2010
1:25 pm

” We don’t need more dumb Americans” Obama certainly agrees with that.

Lil' Barry Bailout

October 21st, 2010
1:25 pm

Chris thinks Juan Williams is a bigot and a racist, and he’s calling the RIGHT loony?

Another victim of public education, no doubt.

Bosch

October 21st, 2010
1:26 pm

thomas,

@ 1:13 -

In my opinion? No, not really. NPR’s budget is mostly supported from donations, very little of their budget comes from tax dollars — I’m sure there are lots of companies who percentage wise get more support from the government than NPR and they certainly have the right to fire whom they want — in general.

Del

October 21st, 2010
1:26 pm

JohnnyReb@1:22…Yes

Finn McCool

October 21st, 2010
1:28 pm

Tides Foundation? reallly?

Glen Beck is in da house!

Billybob

October 21st, 2010
1:28 pm

Nice job salzmann,
Racist, bigots, looney right, steroetyping paid for by conservatives. You need to wake up because you are consumed by the liberal ‘racist template’. Think for yourself sir…..

Bosch

October 21st, 2010
1:29 pm

“The far left just won’t tolerate someone making a common sense comment that clashes with their common lack of common sense perspectives even if it’s is one of their own.”

Um, it wasn’t the far left, it was NPR.

“We saw those idiots on the View last week throwing their little immature temper tantrum”

Um, I hope you are not including me in that “we” as I wouldn’t be caught dead watching that screech show.

AmVet

October 21st, 2010
1:29 pm

MARK, you are correct. A few years ago after watching extensively, I concluded that it was by and large nothing more than an organization of Republican water-carriers. Ostensibly created to offset the Democratic water-carriers. Who I stopped watching as well, for the exact same reason.

You post about Williams role was correct. As was mine: He just played the lovable, always agreeable, subservient, flunky for the would-be bigots and theocrats on Fox.

Bubba Bob, “Commercial radio can be as liberal or conservative as it wants.”

Of course, I simply inform people that the Limbaugh’s et al have one helluva racket going on.

Their entire business is dependent on complete and totally free usage of the public airwaves that “we the people” OWN. They don’t pay a penny for using OUR property. The airwaves we own are every bit as much a tangible asset as real estate or gold.

So some of his hysterical screeds about the evils of “welfare” should be said into the mirror…

RB from Gwinnett

October 21st, 2010
1:30 pm

“WATCH THE WHOLE VIDEO!!!!!!!!!!”

Don’t you know that only applies to people who aren’t on Fox News such as somebody who might not help a farmer as much as she should/could because he’s white?

And this Cracker Barrel case is a witch hunt. That guy doesn’t stand a chance. Don’t know what happened or who said what, but the only thing that appears to be important to anybody is he’s white and she’s black. If that weren’t the case, nobody would give a crap about a dispute between 2 people in Clayton county.

Bosch

October 21st, 2010
1:30 pm

Bubba @ 1:18 — by your comments, it is, quite obvious, that you do not listen to NPR, or you’d know what you just wrote is ridiculous.

Glen

October 21st, 2010
1:31 pm

I don’t think there is a person out there who heard Mr. Williams’ comments and thought they reflected NPR’s position. Unless NPR has a contract with their employees governing what they say on and off the clock, I think NPR should reconsider their decision.

I also think Mr. Williams should clean out his desk, shake the dust off his shoes, and move on. It’s NPR’s loss.

Finn McCool

October 21st, 2010
1:32 pm

I must say when I see a Redneck or a christian on a plane I figure they must be heading to blow up a federal building or an abortion clinic.

RB from Gwinnett

October 21st, 2010
1:32 pm

“It is time to pull all government funding from NPR………………………NOW!!!”

AMEN!!!

Bosch

October 21st, 2010
1:32 pm

jm,

Fairness Doctrine? Really? And how’s that coming along in Congress these days?

jm

October 21st, 2010
1:33 pm

Bosch – doesn’t exist. But did. Just trying to educate ole Bubba Bob….