Election results will spell trouble for GOP

I’m going to go on the record early with this prediction, and should time prove me wrong, feel free to remind me of my mistake:

Election Night 2010 will prove to be a disaster for the Republican Party as we now know it.

I know, conventional wisdom holds that Republicans will win a lot of seats and will almost certainly retake the House of Representatives, perhaps by a comfortable margin. In the Senate, experts predict that Democrats will cling to a majority by a handful of votes, with a decent chance that Republicans could win control of that chamber as well.

I believe that conventional wisdom is correct. Come Election Night, I have little doubt that Republicans across the country will be happily, giddily celebrating what they perceive as a public rejection of Barack Obama and vindication of their conservative principles. They will, so to speak, get their country back.

And then what?

A party pushed into power by blind anger and outrage will then try to govern in anger and outrage. The dramatic, even revolutionary expectations that it has created among its base of supporters will collide head on with Washington realities. The contradictions inherent in a “populist” movement stoked to high dudgeon against Wall Street and other special interests — a movement that is in fact quietly financed and guided by those very same special interests — will no longer be hidden. And the mindset among conservatives that interprets even the slightest compromise as an abject surrender of principle will make it impossible for them to govern responsibly.

By 2012, the result will be the reelection of Barack Obama and Democratic control of both the House and Senate. That’s my prediction; what’s yours?

486 comments Add your comment

Peadawg

October 15th, 2010
9:48 am

Jay, can you pass some that stuff over my way? I want whatever you’re smoking/injecting/snorting right now. :lol:

Peadawg

October 15th, 2010
9:51 am

First!

That’s an accomplishment like Cynthia’s Pulitzer and Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize.

@@

October 15th, 2010
9:52 am

I never count my chickens before they’re hatched. That’s what happened with this administration and Obamacare. Turns out the eggs were rotten.

Jay

October 15th, 2010
9:53 am

You’re in Athens, right Peadawg?

If you can’t score what you want there, I sure as heck can’t help you.

Bosch

October 15th, 2010
9:54 am

“By 2012, the result will be the reelection of Barack Obama and Democratic control of both the House and Senate. That’s my prediction; what’s yours?”

Been saying that all along. I look forward to a GOP takeover of the House, it will ensure Obama’s 2012 win.

Union

October 15th, 2010
9:54 am

i dunno jay.. oddly.. while bush separated the country on issues.. obama is separating the country on race.. and doing it loudly and proudly.. do we want such a divider of people running our country? i would rather be broke than have one group of people hating the other over skin color.. too much of that already.

larry

October 15th, 2010
9:55 am

I think the Dems with keep control of both the house and senate. In fact im predicting a certain republican congressman who has ignored his district since his election will be shown the door.

Peadawg

October 15th, 2010
9:56 am

Ya I’m in Athens. I thought I saw ya downtown here last night…after your prediction, I know I saw ya. Still hungover, eh?

BTW, can you talk to Cindy Lou next door and ask her to unban me? :)

Bosch

October 15th, 2010
9:56 am

Ah Union, it’s easy to say that, but to show it otherwise is well…..

ilnj

October 15th, 2010
9:59 am

People don’t judge a party solely by control of one body of the legislative branch; they also take into account spending and the economy, jobs, and the president.

If democrats don’t manage the size of the deficit and prove that spending has resulted in low unemployment, they will continue to lose seats.

Peadawg

October 15th, 2010
10:00 am

“Been saying that all along. I look forward to a GOP takeover of the House, it will ensure Obama’s 2012 win.”

Probably, since people will realize the GOP is trying to take away everyone’s handouts. Have no fear, the Democrats are there to hold your hand!

USinUK

October 15th, 2010
10:02 am

Bosch!

I popped back in here last night to post this for you, but alas you were not here … (the 3rd paragraph is comedy gold … or a good emetic)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2010/oct/15/tony-blair-bad-sex-award

Paul

October 15th, 2010
10:02 am

Jay

Operative words being “as we now know it.”

If they hold, they’re toast. And so are we.

I wonder… will we see filibustering by Democrats? Or will they let bills go forward and rely on Pres Obama to veto? This is gonna be iteresting -

NowReally

October 15th, 2010
10:02 am

I’m with you Jay. I think the people are going to get more or less than what they bargained for in the “short run”. I’ve had the mind set of “let them have control” for a while now.

The old people are upset because they aren’t getting a raise for social security in 2011; let’s see what they get when the republicans take over. These clowns are going to balance the budget and get us out of debt; time will tell.

I bet more people will vote in 2012, than in 2010 or 2008.

Mick

October 15th, 2010
10:03 am

I predict the dems will hold both houses. In the house the dems might get away with a one or two seat majority, same for the senate. Then its full speed ahead with the obstruction strategy by the repubs. Obama will then realize that he is in a no win situation and probably try to emulate clinton by triangulation or he see’s the writing on the wall and decides to be a one term president and wants to “spend more time with his family”.

jt

October 15th, 2010
10:04 am

Believe it or not, Jay is probably right……sorta.

The federal incumbent enema will not be thorough enough this go around (Isackson), which will enable the establishment to co-op/corrupt the good guys that are going in.

I do not believe that the progressives will win in 2012 though.

It will be a third party or revolution……..Hopefully.
Get ready for this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-LB94Kwlws

USinUK

October 15th, 2010
10:04 am

By 2012, the result will be the reelection of Barack Obama and Democratic control of both the House and Senate

fwiw, I think Obama will be reelected, the GOP will retain control of the House and the Dems will retain control of the senate …

Del

October 15th, 2010
10:04 am

Well the Democrats have been trying to govern in anger and outrage and look where they’re heading, so if the Republicans do likewise then maybe Jay’s prediction would be accurate. Hopefully, if they do become a Congressional majority in one or both chambers they will focus on the peoples business. The Democrats can either join in or continue to focus on politics and issues that the public views as non-priorities. If the Dem’s choose the latter, Obama and the Democrats will have another rough outing in November 012.

Don't Forget

October 15th, 2010
10:04 am

Throw the tea party into the mix and we’re talking star wars bar scene.

Union

October 15th, 2010
10:05 am

whats the number? spending up 21% since obama has been in office? we may have saved “3,000,000″ jobs.. but what happens when that stimulus money runs out for all those govt jobs? another round of bailouts? that will happen during the next two years.. so i would say my prediction is the dems will lose more seats as time progresses..

Peadawg

October 15th, 2010
10:05 am

“nd wants to “spend more time with his family”.”

The longer he’s on vacation, the better. He can’t as much as damage in Spain.

USinUK

October 15th, 2010
10:06 am

“The federal incumbent enema ”

ewwwwwww … thanks for the visual, jt!

Jack

October 15th, 2010
10:07 am

If we are lucky, Obama will be a one term president.

Don't Forget

October 15th, 2010
10:07 am

jt,
What makes you think a third party will be any better than the 2 we have???? Are you buying their promises? It’s still a system that requires politicians to raise tons of money to get re-elected so the special interests on both sides WILL have their say.

md

October 15th, 2010
10:07 am

It will depend on the swing voters – as it always does. And those folks tend to prefer balanced gov’t. They are the ones not tied to either party, and know all too well what happens when either controls the whole shabang.

You side choosers need to understand that you cancel each other out – you are the extremists for the most part.

4, 8 and on occasion 12 – there’s your sign.

Doggone/GA

October 15th, 2010
10:09 am

“I wonder… will we see filibustering by Democrats?”

If they win the House, there is no filibuster rule in the House.

Union

October 15th, 2010
10:09 am

i had forgotten about the pelosi booze bill.. every time she gets on a plane.. she racks up over $1,000 in alcohol charges alone.. gee.. i am sure glad we have so many looking out for our money..

jm

October 15th, 2010
10:11 am

Dems will not regain the House and Senate in 2012. But there will be governing “problems” of a sort, since Obama obviously holds the Veto.

So any legislation is going to be something he’s willing to compromise on. I don’t see much happening. Sometimes “nothing happening” is a good thing, but not always.

Doggone/GA

October 15th, 2010
10:12 am

“i had forgotten about the pelosi booze bill”

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/03/pelosis-party-plane/

Nice Guy

October 15th, 2010
10:12 am

Jay – “If you can’t score what you want there, I sure as heck can’t help you.”

Geez Jay, must you take shots at EVERYTHING that I hold dear to my heart?

Peadawg

October 15th, 2010
10:13 am

“i had forgotten about the pelosi booze bill”

Wouldn’t you drink too if you knew you would out of a job in November? Now she’ll know how the rest of the US citizens really feel.

jm

October 15th, 2010
10:13 am

BTW, I don’t see dems getting Congress back in 2012 because Obama will still hold the Presidency. If he loses re-election for some reason and we get an R in the Pres seat, I would expect Dems to pick up a lot of seats in 2014…..

Obama went too far left….

Nice Guy

October 15th, 2010
10:14 am

“By 2012, the result will be the reelection of Barack Obama and Democratic control of both the House and Senate. ”

No way. The next President may not be Repub, but it ’sho ain’t gonna be Barack. That guy has already shown his hand as an extreme leftist. The US will not tolerate extremem left policies for another 4 years.

jt

October 15th, 2010
10:14 am

Don’t Forget

I don’t necessarily think a third party will be good.

The only way out of this mess is to decrease the influence by a foreign and hostile federal government.

Thankfully this is already happening peacefully through nullification.

Make the federalies impotent, the people will need no viagara.

You are welcome USnUK.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

October 15th, 2010
10:14 am

Well, I expect when us Conservative Republicans take over we’ll be rid of Social Security and Medicare and welfare and all the other stuff we hate. And we’ll have lots of tax cuts and we’ll balance the budget because we just won’t count things like wars and tax cuts as part of the budget. Everybody will have butterflies flying out of their rear end and we’ll be giving the middle finger to every other country in the world. And we’ll put God back in Washington and appoint judges that won’t put up with abortion and the gays and all the other sinful stuff. And we’ll make sure the kids ain’t taught about You Know What.

Or maybe not. You can’t never tell what the librul Democrats will do. They’ll probly filibuster and do all kind of stuff to keep us from doing what needs to be done. And then there’s that Muslim setting up there in the White House that will probly veto everything. I guess we’ll just have to shut down the guvmint again. They can’t spend money if there ain’t no guvmint.

I guess we’ll be happy on the night of Nov. 2. Then we’ll be like the boy that jumped on the back of the tiger and has to worry about what’s going to happen when he gets off.

Have a good Friday everybody. I’m hauling to beat the band so you can get snozzled tonight and trade weird music.

StJ

October 15th, 2010
10:14 am

…a “populist” movement stoked to high dudgeon against Wall Street and other special interests…

The “populist movement against Wall Street” is nothing compared to the populist movement directed against Democrats and their special interests (one could even describe it as a “tsunami”). Your $1 trillion deficit this year doesn’t help your cause. Neither does your legislative and regulatory vendetta against businesses and taxpayers.

Realistically, Republicans may not be able to do anything against Obama’s veto, but they should be able to put the brakes on the runaway socialist bullet train to Hell.

Don't Forget

October 15th, 2010
10:15 am

Union

October 15th, 2010
10:09 am
i had forgotten about the pelosi booze bill.. every time she gets on a plane.. she racks up over $1,000 in alcohol charges alone.. gee.. i am sure glad we have so many looking out for our money..

That’s total BS. Shame on you.

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/03/pelosis-party-plane/

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/sep/21/michele-bachmann/michele-bachmann-accuses-nancy-pelosi-spending-100/

Union

October 15th, 2010
10:15 am

gee.. im sorry doggone.. let me make myself a little more clear.. it doesnt matter who does it.. its not right.. i was going off the promises of pelosi and obama to clean everything up… my bad.. someone should have told me they support liars and thieves..

Goldie

October 15th, 2010
10:18 am

Yep — the extremist loonies have taken over the GOP asylum now…

DawgDad

October 15th, 2010
10:19 am

Sorry, Jay, I and many like me will NEVER buy into your premise that compromising sound core principles is necessary to govern responsibly. Rubbish. And, we will vote.

Doggone/GA

October 15th, 2010
10:19 am

“let me make myself a little more clear.. it doesnt matter who does it”

And I call BS on this. If it didn’t matter “who” did it, why did you call it the “Pelosi” bill? You meant what you said, you own it.

Matti

October 15th, 2010
10:21 am

I wonder how the new Congress is going to address the people who were refused or could not afford health insurance, then were told that by 2014, they could no longer be refused, and would indeed have access to health insurance for the first time in years (if ever), when they stump up support for repealing it before it even happened? That should be interesting.

Bosch

October 15th, 2010
10:21 am

Union,

Again, easy to say, not so easy to prove…..of course anyone can say anything, even things not true — it’s the American way for some.

Moderate Line

October 15th, 2010
10:22 am

By 2012, the result will be the reelection of Barack Obama and Democratic control of both the House and Senate. That’s my prediction; what’s yours?
+++++++++++
First, what did you predict for the election in 2010 in 2008. My guess is you predicted a Democrat permament majority as most Dems. I think most such predictions are completely usesless because people will only bring their predictions up again if they are right and will remain silent if they are wrong.

My own analysis would be based on the data. The last two congressional switches occurred when the president and congress where controlled by both parties.

Typically, if things are going well in 2012 the American people will see no reason to make changes and they will reelect Obama and the Republican majority. If things are going well then they will oust Obama. This has been the the pattern since 1994 based on what I would say is limited information.

I believe Jay’s prediction is more wishfull thinking than analysis of data.

http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/ajc/bookman/entries/2008/11/03/gop_highwater_mark_march_21_20.html
-Conceivably, a defeat of that size could exile Republicans from power for a decade or even a
-generation, particularly given the party’s poor reputation among younger voters.

http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/ajc/bookman/entries/2008/11/08/is_the_gop_now_a_regional_part.html
-In fact, the issues that make the GOP the majority party in the South make it
-the minority party in most of the rest of the country.

http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/ajc/bookman/entries/2008/11/07/what_is_the_future_of_the_gop.html
-Here’s the problem in a nutshell: The GOP base has become more and more
-alienated from the modern American mainstream.

http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/ajc/bookman/entries/2008/11/04/a_referendum_on_the_modern_gop.html
-Almost every aspect of the Republican ascendancy has been discredited
-and lies in tatters – its policies, politics, and even its version of patriotism –
-down to the rock-bottom notion that progressive taxation

http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/ajc/bookman/entries/2008/11/20/gop_appealing_to_a_shrinking_a.html
One of the biggest problems confronting the Republican Party is the
-fact that they have built their party on the basis of an America that
-no longer exists demographically.

JohnnyReb

October 15th, 2010
10:22 am

This blog over time has shown me both sides share a common trait – eternal optimisim that THEY are the ones correct! I know I am guilty.

Echoing jt@10:04, Jay is partially correct. I don’t agree Obama will be reelected, regardless of what happens between now and 2012. In fact, he may not even run when faced with his own party abandoning him.

This election has shown that candidates can raise sufficient funds to be a legitimate contender without the whole hearted support of the Republican Party. That could mean if Tea Party supporters are not happy with results, they could be a third party in 2012 who have a legitimate chance of winning over Dems and Repubs. Us Conservatives may well be faced with the recent curse of the hard left – not doing enough soon enough.

Moderate Line

October 15th, 2010
10:23 am

-Typically, if things are going well in 2012 the American people will see no reason to make changes
-and they will reelect Obama and the Republican majority

I should say if it exist.

Bosch

October 15th, 2010
10:23 am

USinUK,

Okay, so that’s twice in two days that you’ve caused me to have to call my therapist….

:-)

md

October 15th, 2010
10:23 am

“though it’s certainly true that international CODELs routinely show receipts for hundreds of dollars worth of top-shelf alcohol — brands like Maker’s Mark, Courvoisier, Grey Goose and Bombay Sapphire. ”

Regardless of the amount, it sure beats the heck out of the measly bag of peanuts and coke the rest of us are used to. Somehow, I don’t think this is what the founding fathers envisioned as representing the common folk.

Del

October 15th, 2010
10:25 am

One prediction I will make is that due to the extremely serious issues we face as a nation, the public will be demanding results from government rather than only having passive expectations. I don’t see the Tea Party movement going away any time soon and in fact I see it growing stronger. That could bode well for Republicans or turn against them depending on how closely they listen to voices from the real world. The Republicans have ignored those voices in the past as Democrats have also ignored them over the past two years. I’m predicting a significant change in the public’s view of governments role and measurement of results.

DawgDad

October 15th, 2010
10:26 am

Another point. We experienced FDR before Eisenhower, Johnson and Nixon and Carter before Reagan. Government CAN change for the better. Will it be difficult? Yes. Will more RINOs and leftists need to be culled? Yes.

USinUK

October 15th, 2010
10:30 am

Bosch – who luvs ya, babbee??

DawgDad

October 15th, 2010
10:33 am

Matti: Are you referring to all those “millions” of people who today see no NEED for health insurance and choose to opt out or are just plain negligent, who will be forced to obtain coverage or otherwise be subject to fines and penalties at the point of a gun (the IRS)? Hmmm.

Union

October 15th, 2010
10:34 am

doggone.. i have called it.. on both sides.. if you were not some giddy like “schoolgirl” over obama.. you would see that… gee.. wonder what we have said if bush made the statement.. the democrats want all the whites to stay home..

USinUK

October 15th, 2010
10:34 am

” We experienced FDR before Eisenhower, Johnson and Nixon and Carter before Reagan. Government CAN change for the better”

:lol:

ohsweetjeebus …

The American People

October 15th, 2010
10:35 am

Down with Dems in 2K10

Doggone/GA

October 15th, 2010
10:36 am

“if you were not some giddy like “schoolgirl” over obama.”

I’m not “giddy” over Obama…I supported Hillary Clinton

The Snark

October 15th, 2010
10:36 am

I wish the two political parties would stop treating our government as a prize to fight over.

John K

October 15th, 2010
10:38 am

Yeah, the GOP & their tea partiers, with the belief that book learnin’ is something the liberal east coast elitists do, haven’t bothered to pay attention to history. The rage against Clinton brought in the GOP sweep of 94, which lead to Bill’s re-election and Newt resigning in disgrace.

Union

October 15th, 2010
10:38 am

doggone.. uh huh.. thats what they all say.. now.. lol

DawgDad

October 15th, 2010
10:39 am

“One of the biggest problems confronting the Republican Party is the
-fact that they have built their party on the basis of an America that
-no longer exists demographically.”

The Party is being remolded and retrenching in a set of core values. There will be a battle to win over hearts and minds, just as our forefathers faced in molding a revolution and nation. Ultimately, this is a battle of ideas and values, not demographics. Are blacks predisposed genetically to be mindless sheep for leftist Democrats? That viewpoint is racist and contradicts the core values of the Republican party.

USinUK

October 15th, 2010
10:40 am

The Snark – 10:36 – there’s too much money in it to treat it any other way

Scout

October 15th, 2010
10:40 am

Jay:

My absolutely honest opinion is that you could possibly be correct. The pendulum always swings back and forth. That’s just the way it is.

However, in my observations through my lifetime the pendulum each time always seems to swing back a little farther towards the left and then a little bit less toward the right.

Another way of saying it, is that most Democrats of the 1950’s and 60’s would be the conservatives of today especially concerning spending.

That I believe is the true danger to this Republic.

Doggone/GA

October 15th, 2010
10:40 am

“thats what they all say”

I’m not “all” and you can ask anyone who’s been here since before the election who I supported. I’ve made no secret of it.

Joe

October 15th, 2010
10:41 am

I pray that Jay is right. But his analysis assumes that the “liberal” media will accurately report Republican action and obstructionism.

Using the filibuster in the Senate, Republicans have prevented up to 400 up-or-down votes, a significant number of which would be for legislation that would create jobs and/or reduce the deficit. In addition, GOP senators have put scores of holds on administration nominees needed for defense, homeland security, our justice system, and the federal reserve (among others).

In short, these Republican clowns have done everything possible to create chaos, prevent job growth, and prevent deficit reduction knowing that, with a complicit media, Dems would get the blame and they’d get rewarded. And sure enough, look at all the idiots blaming Obama and the Dems for the unemployment rate and deficits that the Republicans first created and then deliberately exacerbated for political gain. God bless America.

getalife

October 15th, 2010
10:41 am

You are correct Jay.

The baggers are more emotional than libs and the dems are looking at the 12 landslide.

The gop will not be able to spend like they did last time and will have to propose cuts.

Obama is a long term thinker and will crush the tea party.

jt

October 15th, 2010
10:41 am

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.(Arizona, California,Montana,etc……….)
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.(Gerrymandering)
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.(FED, Czars,etc…)
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.(FED, No Declaration of War, Health insurance, Gunrights)
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.(Arizona)
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.(yea, whatever)

Jay

October 15th, 2010
10:42 am

“Are blacks predisposed genetically to be mindless sheep for leftist Democrats? That viewpoint is racist and contradicts the core values of the Republican party.”

So what DOES explain the fact that 90 percent of the black vote goes to Democrats — not just to Obama, but to Democratic nominees in general?

jt

October 15th, 2010
10:43 am

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.(no explanation necessary to the sardine industry)
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
(there is a difference between national DEFENSE and killing mooslims 10,000 miles away.)(war on drugs).

Doggone/GA

October 15th, 2010
10:44 am

“but to Democratic nominees in general?”

Come on Jay, you know the answer to that: They’ve been bribed by give-away socialist welfare programs. :roll:

left wing (the original)

October 15th, 2010
10:45 am

When Jay said “blind anger” I think that’s a pretty good descriptor of theJohn Birch Society tea partiers. I’ve been wondering what would happen if they did not take control of the house, and I really think these people will go off the deep end (not that they’re far from it already). They’ve been told for months how they’re going to take 60 seats in the house, 70 seats in the house.

I believe they’re nutty enough to want to resort to their “second amendment remedies”.

USinUK I saw you were asking me yesterday if that was me, but I had to leave to catch a flight. I’m here now. Wazzup?

jt

October 15th, 2010
10:45 am

For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:(SWAT, IRS)
For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:(Black Panthers, TARPers,)
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent: (no explanation necessary)

Matti

October 15th, 2010
10:45 am

DawgDad: Are you referring to all those “millions” of people who today see no NEED for health insurance and choose to opt out or are just plain negligent

Actually, I have (and know many others who have) been refused insurance coverage for various reasons. While between jobs, I could not afford the COBRA premiums. Trying to be a responsible parent, I sought bare-bones, emergency, high-deductible coverage to protect my family in case of an accident, burst appendix, etc. so that an unfortunately-timed medical need would not result in the loss of our home and assets. The insurance companies flat refused me for taking a commonly-prescribed medication for a common, treatable condition. (When my doctor said, “Here, take these..” he did not mention I’d become uninsurable as a result.) Ask anyone with an asthmatic kid or a wife with MS, and they’ll tell similar stories: cannot get insurance on our own — completely dependent on employer group coverage, precarious in today’s economy.

As for those who are just plain negligent, yes I know some like that too. Now they will be coerced into taking responsibility for themselves, so we don’t have to make up for their heart attacks and accidents with OUR higher premiums and costs. I’m sorry if you have a problem with that.

Union

October 15th, 2010
10:46 am

jay.. black votes follow the hopes, dreams and promises of the dems… dems dont like to tell it like it is.. they like to sugarcoat it.. if i didnt finish school.. my heroes in life were rap stars, basketball stars and then never got anywhere in life.. i would vote for the person that “felt” my pain and said it was not my fault too..

Mick

October 15th, 2010
10:47 am

As I creep closer to retirement age, the moment of truth and the fork in the road becomes more imminent. Does america pull it together and start working on all our serious problems or do we continue to fight each other tooth and nail ideologically and decline? My gut feeling is that the dream is over and a harsher reality awaits. My optimistic side screams that we’ve been in worse spots before and somehow, someway, we will get back on track. Never the less, it is comforting to know that I can move to belize and live like a king on the ocean with nothing more than my monthly social security check.

ROBOCOP

October 15th, 2010
10:48 am

I agree with Bosch and other like minded bloggers.

If the GOP re-gains control of both chambers in Congress, they’ll be faced with a dilema. How will they maintain access to all the lobbyists and special interests in D.C. who call all the shots and manage those pesky old Tea Partiers, some of whom might and might not be elected to Congress? How will they manage the expectations they’ve promised to this so-called tsunami of citizens fed up with Obama, that everything’s going to change from what Obama has done? If they’re going to reduce in a meaningful way spending, where will they make the cuts? From Social Security, Medicare, the Pentagon? How will they deliver on the purported expectation that illegals will be dealt with, when the GOP diety of Reagan and both Bushes didn’t dare disturb that flow of dirt cheap labor coming into this country? In the end, they’ll have to deliver on just about everything they’ve promised if they hope to get one of their kind in the White House in 2012. It’ll be a lot harder to blame Obama, Pelosi and Harry Reid if they’re no longer actors in this play. Oh, and BTW, they’ll have to do it with a President who may very well stand poised with his veto pen in hand.

Doggone/GA

October 15th, 2010
10:50 am

“with nothing more than my monthly social security check”

And if the USA declines, what makes you think there will BE a SS check for you?

Gatro Joe

October 15th, 2010
10:50 am

Jay,
I agree with your prediction, and if it wasn’t going to be so painful for the poor, children, and elderly, it would actually be fun to watch the Republican Party implode. They are clearly responsible for the current state of affairs, and they continue to be responsible because of their obstruction and obstinance.
Bigoted, hate-filled, rewarding the rich and corporations to the exclusion, and detriment, of the poor and middle classes, is no way to govern. It is a formula for the eventual loss of political power, and relevance.

pat

October 15th, 2010
10:50 am

If 2010 is a boon for Republicans, I think obama will win reelection in 2012, but I do not think congress with change complection all that much in 2012. Opposing parties in different branchs tend to moderate each other. It’s usually when it’s one sided that people flip their lids.

Don't Forget

October 15th, 2010
10:51 am

In order for the tea party to survive it will have to take over the republican party. It’s a 2 party system for a reason. The rules put a third party at an extreme disadvantage.

The tea party is the party of “have your cake and eat it too”. They offer no actual solutions for a reason, they don’t have any. Their success is because of effective use of slogans and mottos.

USinUK

October 15th, 2010
10:51 am

hiya leftie – had to catch a flight? anywhere good?

just responding to your post from Wed in which you said that the US had negative growth for the last 2 quarters … it hasn’t. it’s had slower growth, but it’s still been positive both q/q and y/y (q/q since Q309 and y/y since Q409)

Gator Joe

October 15th, 2010
10:52 am

Sorry for my typo (old brain malfunction), I’m “Gator” Joe, not “Gatro Joe.”

Del

October 15th, 2010
10:53 am

The left really has fear of the Tea Party.

getalife

October 15th, 2010
10:53 am

I think the dems have the big mo right now and the losses will be less than you think.

You will see the polls correct right before the election and Americans will not reward the gop for collapsing the economy then voting no to fix it.

The ones that did vote gop this cycle will see the gop will not change and not vote next cycle.

USinUK

October 15th, 2010
10:53 am

Gator Joe … what about Guitar Joe? that sounds good, too!

md

October 15th, 2010
10:54 am

“So what DOES explain the fact that 90 percent of the black vote goes to Democrats — not just to Obama, but to Democratic nominees in general?”

Maybe the fact that they have been oppressed for so long. Now that they have been able to ascend, look for more of them to reject the notion that their accomplishments should be sacrificed for others that choose not to follow in their footsteps. I found it interesting listening to Dr Rice. She said her parents wouldn’t allow the environment to dictate their effort. She had it rough, but her family knew that education was the ticket to freedom. There are many of all colors that choose to opt out of an already taxpayer funded education system.

No matter what, one’s education can not be taken from them………and it is a choice to obtain it.

USinUK

October 15th, 2010
10:55 am

“The left really has fear of the Tea Party”

nope. just the idiots like Christine O’D that seem to comprise the Tea Party.

Mick

October 15th, 2010
10:56 am

**And if the USA declines, what makes you think there will BE a SS check for you?**

A bit testy today? Well isn’t social security OK until at least 2037? Hopefully, my 401k and pension will be around also. Hey, its still another great day in paradise.

Bosch

October 15th, 2010
10:58 am

“who will be forced to obtain coverage or otherwise be subject to fines and penalties at the point of a gun”

And the melodrama award today goes to DawgDad…

Matti

October 15th, 2010
10:59 am

How will they maintain access to all the lobbyists and special interests in D.C. who call all the shots

Much the same way they do now, I’m afraid. Most people aren’t paying attention. My Congressmen is deep in the pockets of special insterests and lobbyists, but his throngs of adoring fans aren’t concerned. They love what he parrots at their Tea Party rallies, and his regular appearances on Fox “News” where he repeats talking points and empty predictions of imminent doom without ever stating anything remotely factual. Image is everything; don’t confuse it with facts.

USinUK

October 15th, 2010
11:00 am

Bosch – the day is young … and there seems to be some other possible contenders for the title …

Obama the Obtuse

October 15th, 2010
11:01 am

If your prediction is correct, we are in trouble. Nanny state from cradle to grave here we come. You are hoping this is Bill Clinton all over again, but this is really Jimmy Carter.

Just me

October 15th, 2010
11:01 am

I read this blog to see what the loonies on both ends of the spectrum are saying; usually good for a few laughs. Bookman’s premise today has to be a little joke he is making to try and stir up the comments and you people are falling for it. He says, “the Republicans will win the election and that will be their downfall”…now that is funny!

Del

October 15th, 2010
11:02 am

“nope. just the idiots like Christine O’D that seem to comprise the Tea Party.”

Thank you for agreeing with my point. If it’s who you fear then in this case, it’s what you fear.

USinUK

October 15th, 2010
11:02 am

Bosch – 10:58 – as I said in my 11, see OtO’s 11:01.

Doggone/GA

October 15th, 2010
11:02 am

“Well isn’t social security OK until at least 2037?”

As it stands right now, but if we decline…why do you think the money would still be there?

Union

October 15th, 2010
11:03 am

usinuk.. kind of like biden being second in command scares everyone on the planet?

USinUK

October 15th, 2010
11:03 am

Del – stupidity always scares the hell out of me … they’re too flipping easily led – (see: 2000-2008)

DaveDawg

October 15th, 2010
11:03 am

It’s all about cycles. But yes, the GOP has really painted itself into a corner this time. The big question is whether their core constituency will let them off the hook? Sonny Perdue got elected promising a vote on the Confederate state flag, but he quickly back-peddled and was reelected by a landslide anyway. Of course, Georgia is a blind red state. That’s why the worst self-serving politician ever – Nathan Deal – is about to be elected governor. Nationally, the GOP might well be held accountable for their forthcoming broken promises.

Bosch

October 15th, 2010
11:03 am

Just me,

“He says, “the Republicans will win the election and that will be their downfall”…now that is funny!”

Well, it certainly was for the Democrats, no?

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USinUK,

So true, so true. But the notion that those who don’t pay for health insurance will go to prison! PRISON I SAY!! is well, good lord.

USinUK

October 15th, 2010
11:04 am

Union – I’ve never been a big Biden fan, but I’d rather have him one chicken bone away from the Oval than Palin