Nazi hobbyist as congressional candidate? And it’s OK?
Rich Iott is the Republican candidate to represent Ohio’s Ninth Congressional District, a seat now held by Democrat Marcy Kaptur. But as Josh Green of the Atlantic points out, Iott has had a rather unusual hobby for someone with ambitions of serving his country in Congress.
He likes to dress up in the uniform of the Waffen SS.
GOP congressional candidate Rich Iott, second from right, in the uniform of a Waffen SS officer.
For several years, in fact, Iott was a member of a group calling itself the Wikings, created to honor those who fought in World War II in the 5th SS Panzer Division. The division comprised volunteers to the Nazi cause drawn from outside Germany. As the Wiking site explains:
Nazi Germany had no problem in recruiting the multitudes of volunteers willing to lay down their lives to ensure a “New and Free Europe”, free of the threat of Communism. National Socialism was seen by many in Holland, Denmark, Norway, Finland, and other eastern European and Balkan countries as the protector of personal freedom and their very way of life, despite the true underlying totalitarian (and quite twisted, in most cases) nature of the movement. Regardless, thousands upon thousands of valiant men died defending their respective countries in the name of a better tomorrow. We salute these idealists; no matter how unsavory the Nazi government was, the front-line soldiers of the Waffen-SS (in particular the foreign volunteers) gave their lives for their loved ones and a basic desire to be free.
Idealists, in the name of a better tomorrow, motivated by a basic desire to be free. Lovely.
As the Wiking site goes on to explain, “It is our aim to bring you a bit of actual history behind the men who fought against the “Bolshevik scourge”; volunteers who came from the various Northern European countries allied with Hitler’s Germany who only had a desire to see an end to Soviet Communism.”
Iott explains his former hobby by likening it to Civil War re-enacters, noting that “you couldn’t do Civil War re-enacting if somebody didn’t play the role of the Confederates.”
“I’ve always been fascinated by the fact that here was a relatively small country that from a strictly military point of view accomplished incredible things,” Iott told Green. “I mean, they took over most of Europe and Russia, and it really took the combined effort of the free world to defeat them. From a purely historical military point of view, that’s incredible.”
Iott’s explanation, strained as it is, might be slightly more convincing if he and his friends had chosen to emulate a standard unit of the German Army, or Wehrmacht. The moral culpability of draftees conscripted into the German military is at least arguable.
Instead, they chose to emulate a division of the Waffen SS, a volunteer arm of the Nazi Party that played a prominent role in the wholesale slaughter of 6 million Jews and millions of other “undesirables.” In fact. the infamous Josef Mengele served in the 5th division early in the war, and it was directly implicated in several mass murders of Jewish captives.
Armed with this information, the people of the Ohio Ninth will no doubt cast their own judgment on Iott at the ballot box this November. But what I find fascinating is the reaction to the discovery. Here we’ve got a congressional candidate as a member of a group touting Nazi SS volunteers as idealists fighting for freedom, yet prominent right-wing blogs (here and here and here, for example) are defending Iott as a victim of liberal smears.
Green is creating an issue where one really doesn’t exist, we’re told, because dressing like the Waffen SS is “basically like the reenactors who play the Red Coats in American Revolution reenactments.” This is just another example of “shoddy political hackery” by liberal journalists, a “pathetic attack” by leftists ready to “smear anyone for anything if they think it might help them hold onto power.”
In other words, they’re all right with this behavior, and are willing to defend it.
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Dusty
October 9th, 2010
4:43 pm
josef,
I don’t have any grandkids but every time I hear about the miners I feel like I am holding my breath. OH for a happy endng, please please!!!!
BADA BING
October 9th, 2010
4:46 pm
Dusty, the miners could be on to something. They can only be rescued if they can fit in the escape capsule. Maybe they could start the ‘Chilean Miner’s Diet Program’ ™. Bury fat people underground and the only way out is to be able to fit in the capsule !!
Jeff
October 9th, 2010
4:50 pm
Bada Bing — you nailed it. I would add the beauty of selfless devotion to the Emperor displayed by the Japanese, the outstanding record of the Tuskegee Airmen, and anything bad you can say about Nick Saban. Ok, I’ve had too much to drink now, but, way to go Bada Bing.
BADA BING
October 9th, 2010
4:51 pm
How would you like to be the last one to be rescued? Watching your friends go up one by one, hoping that nothing gets hung up, or that the hole doesn’t cave in?
josef nix
October 9th, 2010
4:53 pm
Dusty
Funny you should bring up Squirrel. I was just watching two of ours at the birdfeeder. They took to chattering looking at us and Unmentionable says, “makes you wish you spoke Squirrel, doesn’t it? Wonder what it is they’re calling us?”
Bada…
I was watching the plan to lift them up and was wondering myself what if they couldn’t squeeze in…and they have had plenty of provisions and a lot of time to eat…was that taken into consideration?
Dusty
October 9th, 2010
4:54 pm
BADA,
Now that’s a thought (you must be very lean). What will they actually do with the fat ones? Leave ‘em behind until they are thin, as you sugggested? The thought of getting stuck in a pipe half mile underground gives me acute claustrophobia.!!!!! But Chilian Miners diet? If necessary, I will stick with Jenny Craig (without the pipe)..
N-GA
October 9th, 2010
4:54 pm
Unbelievable! How many Nazi apologists post here? In case you need to be reminded, read up on Nazi atrocities – http://hitlernews.cloudworth.com/holocaust-atrocities.php – then decide if it is okay to dress up in the uniform of the Waffen SS.
There are plenty of re-enactment groups to join without having to dress up like Nazis. If you get inside the heads of these “role-players” you will find some strange attitudes and likely stranger behaviors.
BADA BING
October 9th, 2010
4:58 pm
Well NASA was helping with their rescue. I am sure they were on a very lean diet, protein heavy and low calorie. They were also exercising to keep muscle tone and to lose weight. That hole is very small tho. Talk about motivation.
Scout
October 9th, 2010
5:00 pm
Has anyone ever seen someone playing George Washington in a Revolutionary War reinactment or seen his military uniform on grand display in the Smithsonian ? I have.
Oh my goodness, wait a minute …………….. HE OWNED SLAVES !
josef nix
October 9th, 2010
5:01 pm
BADA
And when you see the films of them coming up, how can you be that upbeat? That’s a tough lot down there…
TGT
October 9th, 2010
5:03 pm
Have a problem with this photo Kamchak? http://antzinpantz.com/kns/?p=27987
josef nix
October 9th, 2010
5:03 pm
BADA
Protein heavy and exercise? Hope it wasn’t beans…okay, okay bad joke.
BADA BING
October 9th, 2010
5:03 pm
Try this experiment….stick your head and shoulders in your dryer at home. The capsule will be smaller than that.
BADA BING
October 9th, 2010
5:05 pm
josef, beans may help, it will put pressure behind them. No open flames, please.
Dusty
October 9th, 2010
5:05 pm
josef,
The squirrels are tired of my bird feeder and are now digging in anything green I put out side. I placed a pretty little plant on the patio table and the fox squirret dug a big hole right down to the roots. I’m sure it was ol’ foxy.
Then I went to a meeting and a few ladies were almost hysterical because a squirrel had chewed through the ceiling in an adjacent room and had surprised them when they opened the door. He was upset too. Obviously. Some things had to be thrown out. Anyway, the great broom brigade chased him out an open door and victory was declared. I must say it was the most interesting event in the meeting.
Moderate Line
October 9th, 2010
5:07 pm
Jay
October 9th, 2010
2:38 pm
Clearly, given that comment at 2:33, our “guest” would have no problem whatsoever with Iott dressing up like a racist. It might even commend him.
As to RW, step up and declare yourself: Would this information be enough to dissuade you from voting for Iott, if he was on your ballot?
Yes or no. I have given my answer; what’s yours?
+++++++
First, you wouldn’t have voted for him anyway so that is pure baloney argument. Your really just trying to smear him.
I would have to say it would affect my vote but would not be a determining factor just like Obama association with Wright affected my vote but was not a determining factor. In fact now Obama association with Wright wouldn’t have any affect because I have see more of what Obama stands for which seems to contradict what Wright stated.
A more relevant factor for me is in the case of Deal where it seems he has done some unethical business deals with the state.
Kamchak
October 9th, 2010
5:07 pm
Have a problem with this photo Kamchak?
Not sure what your point is.
Scout
October 9th, 2010
5:07 pm
P.S.
I guess this means I can’t watch any more reruns of “Hogan’s Heroes” ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8xs3ZxBpG8
Scout
October 9th, 2010
5:10 pm
Rich Lott dressed up in a WW II German uniform and Barack Obama associated with known terrorists.
Hummmmm ………….. tough call.
BADA BING
October 9th, 2010
5:11 pm
Damn, I hope no one had to call 911 to get somebody out of a dryer ! MY BAD…..
Dusty
October 9th, 2010
5:14 pm
BADA/Josef,
I think the government of Chile has done a great job handling this disaster. They seemed to be trying their very best to bring in all the big equipment they could find, declaring their intent to rescue no matter the cost, and reassuring miner families and accomodating them in every way. If there have been any complaints about their handling of this crisis, I haven’t heard or read it.
getalife
October 9th, 2010
5:14 pm
Dusty,
Shotgun will get them.
Then you can eat them.
It’s a win win for you.
Scout
October 9th, 2010
5:25 pm
“In the early 1940s, (Senator) Byrd recruited 150 of his friends and associates to create a new chapter of the Ku Klux Klan.
According to Byrd, a Klan official told him, “You have a talent for leadership, Bob … The country needs young men like you in the leadership of the nation.” Byrd later recalled, “suddenly lights flashed in my mind! Someone important had recognized my abilities! I was only 23 or 24 years old, and the thought of a political career had never really hit me. But strike me that night, it did.” Byrd held the titles Kleagle (recruiter) and Exalted Cyclops. When it came time to elect the “Exalted Cyclops,” the top officer in the local Klan unit, Byrd won unanimously.
In 1944, Byrd wrote to segregationist Mississippi Senator Theodore Bilbo:
“ I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side … Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds. ”
— Robert C. Byrd, in a letter to Sen. Theodore Bilbo (D-MS), 1944,
In 1946 or 1947 Byrd wrote a letter to a Grand Wizard stating, “The Klan is needed today as never before, and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia and in every state in the nation.”
Wikipedia
Sure, he apologized later in life (as he should have) but can you imagine what the “liberal world” would have done had he been a conservative/Republican ?
The hypocrisy is unbelievable.
josef nix
October 9th, 2010
5:25 pm
getalife
Unmentionabl and the boys used to go squirrel hunting…a bit of male bonding I didn’t appreciate so much…and I especially didn’t appreciate them trying to sneak my cast iron stewpot! I keep trying to warn these little b*ggers in the trees hereabouts that they don’t know what they foolin with!
The Rational Right
October 9th, 2010
5:28 pm
Uh, the guy who is second from the left is wearing a Black Watch tartan kilt and a World War II-era Royal Air Force blouse.
Unfortunately, the AJC has mislabeled the photo, and the candidate in question is actually SECOND FROM THE RIGHT, and is wearing a Waffen SS officer’s field uniform.
IMHO, that’s a d@mn strange hobby for a conservative Republican . . .
but I guess that’s no stranger than our President associating with former terrorists who tried to kill members of our Armed Forces during the Vietnam War (Bill Ayres), advocates of democratic socialism and left-wing protest movements (Saul Alinsky), and Black Nationalist Liberation Theology (Rev. Jeremiah Wright).
As a Republican, a conservative and the son of a World War II veteran who fought the fascists and Nazis, I am only too happy to throw poor Mr. Iott under the bus because of his odd extracurricular activities. So, Jay, are you willing to do the same for our President and his collection of ant-American, anti-capitalist, antisemitic, and pro-socialism associates? Hmm?
Never mind. I know your answer already. Anything wacky done by a Democrat is completely excusable, right? The irony is that Iott apparently only dresses up as an SS officer. Obama has political friends who actually believe that capitalism is evil, the Jews are the origin of everything wrong with America and the world, that it’s okay to plant bombs in an attempt to kill U.S. military personnel as an acceptable form of political protest .
Ironic, huh?
So, save your feigned outrage. I’m still waiting for you to behave like an objective journalist, not a paid flack for the Democrat Party.
Senorita Bontia
October 9th, 2010
5:29 pm
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.
John Stuart Mill
English economist & philosopher (1806 – 1873)
Kamchak
October 9th, 2010
5:30 pm
Sure, he apologized later in life…
Absolutely, and on numerous occasions. so there is no reason for your caveat.
Doggone/GA
October 9th, 2010
5:31 pm
Josef – speaking of the Chilean miners…everytime I see a report or comment about them, I think “I wouldn’t want to be the last man waiting to be brought up”
Pogo
October 9th, 2010
5:31 pm
Nazis suck. Period. People that wear nazi uniforms also suck.
On another un-related note, I went to the grocery today to buy a chicken. In front of me in the checkout line was an EXTREMELY obese woman with weaves in her hair and painted finger-nails. I was watching the cash register read-out ringing up her bill and this is a list of what she bought;
$142.00 worth of New York Strip Steaks (at $4.99/lb).
$24.00 worth of hotdogs.
$15.00 worth of sodas.
$9.00 worth of hotdog buns.
$52.00 worth of center cut pork chops and barbecue sauce.
$10.00 dollars worth of potato chips.
No beans, no milk, no rice, no bread (other than the hotdog buns) and no vegetables, just these things.
When this woman went to pay for it, guess what? She pulled out a Georgia Foodstamp Credit Card (the one with the big peach on it).
The cashier asked her, “you must be going to have a cookout”.
And the response was, “Me and my friends are cooking out by the lake tonight”.
How long can we exist as a country with this mentality when we have 48 million people out there who are on foodstamps. The abuse must be incredible. I have seen some recipients that actually do spend their money wisely but by and large, the food types chosen by the food stamp recipients are usually the kind that deliver the least amount of nutrition for the most money. And they are the kind that make them and their children obese (processed frozen foods, chips and sodas).
If the government is going to have a food program it should administered in much in the same manner as the commodity program was administered in the 60’s and early 70’s. At least the recipients could only get food of nutrional value. Not sodas, frozen pizzas and steaks that most of us can’t afford.
Doggone/GA
October 9th, 2010
5:32 pm
“Absolutely, and on numerous occasions. so there is no reason for your caveat”
“To err is human. To forgive, divine”
But some people, who profess to be Christians, can’t seem to get that forgiveness part.
Dusty
October 9th, 2010
5:33 pm
getalife,
I don’t even have a slingshot much less a shotgun. As to eating a squirrel, they probably taste like bird seed.. They should, those moochers.
Anyway, how does armadillo taste? They outdo possums as roadkill in Louisiana. I thought you might have tried one.
Scout
October 9th, 2010
5:33 pm
Kamchak:
KKK spelled backwards is KKK.
josef nix
October 9th, 2010
5:33 pm
Scout
Not to stir the pot here, but, there’s also this:
http://www.historycentral.com/elections/1960state.html
Who’s that fellow in green?
TGT
October 9th, 2010
5:33 pm
The point Kamchak? A revered liberal, “WILLINGLY” donning the uniform of the KKK–not as a “hobbyist,” but as a real live member of one of the most “vilified” organizations in history–who was continuosly reelected by liberals, becoming the longest serving U.S. Senator, despite this past–and you don’t see the point?
TGT
October 9th, 2010
5:34 pm
Excuse me: “continuously”
Moderate Line
October 9th, 2010
5:34 pm
N-GA
October 9th, 2010
4:54 pm
In case you need to be reminded, read up on Nazi atrocities – http://hitlernews.cloudworth.com/holocaust-atrocities.php – then decide if it is okay to dress up in the uniform of the Waffen SS.
There are plenty of re-enactment groups to join without having to dress up like Nazis. If you get inside the heads of these “role-players” you will find some strange attitudes and likely stranger behaviors.
+++++
-Unbelievable! How many Nazi apologists post here?
I have read most of the articles and I have not seen a person who appear to be Nazi apologists. I do not believe it is a good thing to dress up as a NAZI. In fact I believe the guy has allot of explaining to do especially to vets and Jewish people. However, I also believe that people make mistakes in their lives many time without realizing the full ramifications of what they are doing. I had an Uncle who fought in the Pacific who would be greatly offended by someone who was a Japanese soldier reenactor but at the same time I believe what is more important is what the guy believes in and what he thinks.
-There are plenty of re-enactment groups to join without having to dress up like Nazis. If you get
-inside the heads of these “role-players” you will find some strange attitudes and likely stranger
-behaviors.
Alright, to me this behavior seems strange but at the same time if we condemn everyone for strange behavior we would have to condemn everyone.
I personally believe the civil war was one of the greatest tragedies in American history. Why would we want to glorify it? But that is just my take on it.
In WWII 20 million Russians died at the hands of the Germans. Russian had the most loss of life than any other country. They were not fight for communism they were fighting for Russia. I think reenacting such a tragedy is sad. But again that is just my take on it.
Scout
October 9th, 2010
5:35 pm
The Rational Right :
Wise words and Ooo Rah !
But, liberals are blind to their own hypocrisy …………. no, I take that back ……… they IGNORE their own hypocrisy.
getalife
October 9th, 2010
5:35 pm
josef,
I shot a squirrel in my back yard.
The lady next door screamed , “You shot my pet squirrel.”.
I busted out laughing and told her I did not know he was your pet.
Shot a 7mm Mexican/American war rifle at a red woodpecker in my back yard too.
Missed him but blew the top off his tree .
That gun can kick.
Scout
October 9th, 2010
5:37 pm
Doggone/GA:
You mean forgive liberals but not conservatives.
Thus the hypocrisy.
Scout
October 9th, 2010
5:39 pm
TGT @ 5:33 :
Thank you.
ken
October 9th, 2010
5:39 pm
Van Jones?????????? Jay, care to write about him !!!!!!!!!
Doggone/GA
October 9th, 2010
5:41 pm
“You mean forgive liberals but not conservatives”
I forgive anyone who shows sincere regret for their actions AND who shows, by their subsequent actions that they HAVE repudiated their previous behavior and opinions. You, on the other hand, seem to have a problem with that.
And I know you won’t find anything…but I wish I could watch you TRY to find ANYTHING from me that is comparable to your repeatedly bringing up the KKK and Senator Byrd.
Scout
October 9th, 2010
5:42 pm
Back to football.
At least they have fair rules.
Pogo
October 9th, 2010
5:44 pm
And Rational, you are exactly right. Our president hung out with the terrorist Ayers and attended the “church” of the white hating racist Wright. But Jay has no problem whatsoever with this (which anyone that has read Jay would expect). I think a president is a little above a Congressman/Woman, isn’t it? The current administration is circling the drain and is pretty much done but unfortunately, he is going to take the rest of his with him to the sewer. Biden is by far the biggest buffoon that has ever had the title of Vice President. The mere fact that Obama chose him says worlds about Obama himself. In this case, the “Vice” should really be looked at more carefully and in terms of the definition of the word rather than the title. I mean, the man has to be on drugs. Did you hear his latest?
josef nix
October 9th, 2010
5:44 pm
I posted this earlier and no real comment back, nor did I really expect it. But how does this Jew feel about the Wiking? Pretty much the same as the other half of the household feels about the Buffalo Soliders.
That said, I do find it interesting that so many of my fellow liberals will go to great lengths to defend Byrd, but you would have a hard time getting them to give Dick Cheney (whom I despise, incidentally) or Bob Barr (whom I am not overly fond of) one whit of the same defense for their own repentance vis a vis their earlier stands on DADT and DOMA…
We do an awful lot of partisan cherry picking in these matters…
stands for decibels
October 9th, 2010
5:44 pm
But, but, Byrd! Ayers! that colored minister guy who said “goddamn!”
Moderate Line
October 9th, 2010
5:44 pm
josef nix
October 9th, 2010
5:33 pm
Scout
Not to stir the pot here, but, there’s also this:
http://www.historycentral.com/elections/1960state.html
Who’s that fellow in green?
++++++++
He apologized and is a Democrat so it doesn’t matter.
Iott needs to join the Democratic party to atone.
Hillbilly Deluxe
October 9th, 2010
5:45 pm
Squirrel tastes a lot like dark meat chicken, unless it’s been eating poplar burrs, then it tastes like poplar burrs.
josef nix
October 9th, 2010
5:49 pm
moderate
Not to mention they have that soiree called the Jefferson/Jackson dinner…uhn, hunh, sure, and he’s still on the $20 bill…
Doggone/GA
October 9th, 2010
5:50 pm
“but you would have a hard time getting them to give Dick Cheney (whom I despise, incidentally) or Bob Barr (whom I am not overly fond of) one whit of the same defense for their own repentance vis a vis their earlier stands on DADT and DOMA…”
Because they aren’t constantly being mentioned…that means “we liberals” haven’t forgiven them? I can forgive them for that, but the other things for which they have NOT show repentence vastly overrides that issue. And just how often does a “liberal” bring them up in discussions that have to do with gay marriage…as Senator Byrd gets brought up when it comes to racism?
Dusty
October 9th, 2010
5:51 pm
getalife,
Never shoot a red headed woodpecker. They are getting scarce. They are pretty too.
But” the time has come the walrus said, to speak of many things.” Such as, will it be the Chilean Miners diet for dinner or the Soulful Saturday Night Soiree? hmmmm How about Friday’s Fine Leftovers. Nawww…I think I’ll go look up that lady Pogo was shopping with. She knows how to eat and party!!! ..
josef nix
October 9th, 2010
5:54 pm
Doggone
And why aren’t they brought up when the discussion turns to DOMA, DADT? And it may override the other issues to you, but not to me any more than did Byrd’s repentence. He stood to gain by taking that stance. They did not. That means something to me. And the we liberals bring up Cheney on a regular basis, not Barr so much, he having pretty much joined the forgotten brigade.
stands for decibels
October 9th, 2010
5:55 pm
white hating racist Wright.
cite please. thanks.
Dusty
October 9th, 2010
5:57 pm
HillBilly,
And; how do poplar burrs taste? Like when I burn collard greens?
josef nix
October 9th, 2010
5:57 pm
Hillbilly
I’ve had tree rats. Too strong a flavor for my tastes. If I had to, I could eat them. But so far, thank G-d, I’ve never been that hungry!
Kamchak
October 9th, 2010
6:05 pm
A revered liberal, “WILLINGLY” donning the uniform of the KKK–not as a “hobbyist,”…
It is my understanding that Byrd began apologizing for his association with the KKK many years ago, so the photo that you linked of him as an old man in KKK garb is suspect. Photoshop?
Despite his past?
Whaddaya want?
Do you want me to denounce a dead man for a past association that he had apologized for on numerous occasions?
OK fine, he was a real asshat for associating with such a group.
With the parallel that you are weakly trying to draw, are you saying that Mr. Iott has apologized for years with his association and somehow liberals have continuously brought it up despite his numerous apologies?
Byrd as a “liberal”?
francis
October 9th, 2010
6:13 pm
There is nothing wrong with a Republican wearing a Nazi uniform, in fact it’s pretty much what they are.
josef nix
October 9th, 2010
6:13 pm
I am perfectly willing to accept Byrd’s apologies for a youthful indiscretion. He was 43 in 1960.
RW-(the original)
October 9th, 2010
6:20 pm
Do you guys realize that the Byrd in the 1960 election was Harry F Byrd from Virginia and I don’t think he’s even related to Robert Byrd.
josef nix
October 9th, 2010
6:22 pm
RW
Yes, I knew that, but I was having fun with it all the same!!!! You caught it!
getalife
October 9th, 2010
6:22 pm
Dusty,
He got away but he was the noisiest bird.
Doggone/GA
October 9th, 2010
6:23 pm
“And why aren’t they brought up when the discussion turns to DOMA, DADT?”
Are you saying you WANT us to bring up their past sins EVERY TIME that gay marriage comes up? Like Byrd’s past sins are brought up when the subject is racism? Are you REALLY saying that?
” And it may override the other issues to you, but not to me”
Of course not to you, I wouldn’t expect it to. But I don’t see YOU bringing them up EVERY TIME in a positive manner either.
“And the we liberals bring up Cheney on a regular basis”
In discussions of gay marriage? Not that I’ve noticed – either positively OR negatively.
Doggone/GA
October 9th, 2010
6:24 pm
“If I had to, I could eat them. But so far, thank G-d, I’ve never been that hungry!”
But have you ever had them barbecued? Not grilled, but barbecued? They are VERY good like that!
RW-(the original)
October 9th, 2010
6:25 pm
josef,
The other thing is that Harry Byrd wasn’t even a candidate and he got more electoral votes than Mondale did as the Democrat(ic) nominee in 1984.
AmVet
October 9th, 2010
6:27 pm
“Never mind that liberals and their party have been complicit in the greatest holocaust the world has ever known.”
TGT, which one is that?
josef nix
October 9th, 2010
6:28 pm
RW
Tells you something, doesn’t it?
I was going fishing with my Byrd comments. I’ve used it for bait before and, lo and behold, if there weren’t those who came in apolgizing for Robert! Now that you’ve took my can of worms, I won’t be able to use it anymore. Spoil sport.
TGT
October 9th, 2010
6:32 pm
The abortion holocaust AmVet. 52 million and counting.
RW-(the original)
October 9th, 2010
6:33 pm
josef,
In a few days you’ll be able to use it again. Short attention span theater being what it is.
josef nix
October 9th, 2010
6:40 pm
RW
Ain’t it the truth! But it is a lot of fun. I really enjoy your twits from the audience in this particular theatre of the absurd…
Left wing management
October 9th, 2010
6:46 pm
Fight against the “Bolshevik scourge” eh?
Just substitute “Jewish” for “Bolshevik” and you have the key to unlock how this mentality operates.
@@
October 9th, 2010
6:47 pm
I’m wouldn’t vote for a guy who wears a skirt and knee socks.
jay, I think it’s more about recreating/preserving history than his being an admirer of nazis. Somebody’s gotta play the bad guys to our good guys.
http://www.historyofwaronline.com/WW2-10.html
Scroll down to Germany. I dare say that with that many groups, there’s bound to be participants who vote Democrat.
Now…about that stimulus money that’s gone missing. The 72,000 stimulus payments that were mailed to dead people? Didn’t the same thing happen last year?
RW-(the original)
October 9th, 2010
6:47 pm
Dang. If I’m going to be twitting do I need to go through Twitter and would I be twitting or tweeting?
AmVet
October 9th, 2010
6:49 pm
Oh.
So do you propose that abortions be made illegal again, TGT?
BADA BING
October 9th, 2010
6:49 pm
I don’t know what jew people are so upset about. Can you nazi that it is just a hobby? Some people like to relive the past. I wouldn’t be russian to conclusions without all the facts. They have every reich to do what they wish. If they want to act like an aSS , it is their business.
Left wing management
October 9th, 2010
6:50 pm
“It is our aim to bring you a bit of actual history behind the men who fought against the “Bolshevik scourge”; volunteers who came from the various Northern European countries allied with Hitler’s Germany who only had a desire to see an end to Soviet Communism”
Those who “only had a desire to see an end to Soviet Communism” eh ?
Fascist scum
Del
October 9th, 2010
6:51 pm
For Dusty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K16fG1sDagU
Hillbilly Deluxe
October 9th, 2010
6:51 pm
how do poplar burrs taste?
They’ve got quite a whang to them.
Tommy Maddox
October 9th, 2010
6:52 pm
Ever notice the operational effectiveness of the Wehrmacht or the Panzer Divisions? Mind you, I’m all for Nazis enjoying the heat of Hell – but their Officer Corps knew how to propagate war.
Dave R.
October 9th, 2010
6:56 pm
I personally don’t care what anyone does in their personal life, as long as it doesn’t encroach on their professional life in public office.
Here’s a thought: Why don’t we just stick to the ISSUES of jobs, the economy, and getting government spending under control, shall we? All these other inane things Jay posts about are juvenile and nothing more than a distraction from the aforementioned issues.
And on the issue of atrocities, while the Confederates can’t hold a candle to the N a z i s or especially the Japanese during WWII (a story that hasn’t truly been told properly regarding our Eastern cousins), Andersonville prison wasn’t exactly a cakewalk. Yet you don’t hear anyone from the South (liberals or conservatives) complaining much about War of Northern Aggression re-enactments, do you?
TGT
October 9th, 2010
6:58 pm
“It is my understanding that Byrd began apologizing for his association with the KKK many years ago…”
It is my understanding that the Wiking site posts a pretty clear disclaimer (RW @ 2:42) condemning real Nazis and their supporters. It is also pretty clear that Lott participates in other reenactments (Steven @ 3:43). Yet you libs want to use this to gain political points–not only against Lott, but the GOP in general. (Given the many Nazi references directed towards the GOP by libs–some of which I’ve already referenced–this is the not-so-subtle attempt here.) Again: This is a lame and desperate attempt by a party facing dire political consequences in a matter of days.
Hillbilly Deluxe
October 9th, 2010
6:58 pm
Andersonville prison wasn’t exactly a cakewalk.
Nor was Camp Douglas, Camp Chase, or Elmira, NY.
Normal
October 9th, 2010
7:01 pm
I’m late to this saur braten fry, but I thought the GOP didn’t like Socialists? HA! Anybody and anything for that seat in Congress, I guess. What Maroons, Bugs Bunny…Ha!!
Democrats criticize GOP over House nominee who dressed as Nazi during battle … – Washington Post | Conservatives for America
October 9th, 2010
7:02 pm
[...] Candidate in Ohio Took Part in Nazi War ReenactmentsPolitics DailyBoston Herald -Atlanta Journal Constitution (blog) -Dayton Daily Newsall 29 news [...]
josef nix
October 9th, 2010
7:04 pm
RW
The Bruin’s watching…be very careful…
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_rpIBmJctShM/Rv1-ac0LWqI/AAAAAAAAACc/2JJp9ZjJyOM/s400/cartoon154.jpg
josef nix
October 9th, 2010
7:07 pm
Hillbilly
Don’t leave out Ft. Delaware…want a recipe for rats? Just saying…
Hillbilly Deluxe
October 9th, 2010
7:09 pm
josef @ 7:07
Just an oversight on my part. There are several more we could list.
Dave R.
October 9th, 2010
7:10 pm
Again, as long as it isn’t illegal to do so, what matters if he does engage in this in his free time, as long as he’s consistent in his beliefs on public issues that people who vote can agree on?
If you don’t like his stance on the issues, don’t support him or vote for him.
We’d be a lot better off if we just stayed out of others private lives.
TGT
October 9th, 2010
7:11 pm
Abortion illegal? Why shouldn’t it be Amvet?
How, in the name of all that is reasonable, can all of you who claim to be “champions for science” –standing fervently behind the flimsy “science” of man-made global warming and Darwinian evolution–while ignoring what science has revealed about the unborn?
Unlike the above mentioned pseudo-sciences, there is overwhelming real evidence supporting the pro-life position when it comes to a child in its mother’s womb. In fact, few things in science are as well documented as is the life in the womb for a baby. With ultrasound and Doppler machines, as well as other technology, one can monitor the life of a child in the womb from very near the beginning until birth. Yet foolish liberals ignore this clear evidence and scream about “choice” and a woman’s “right to control her body.”
Normal
October 9th, 2010
7:13 pm
SoCo,
Bummer, man…
RW-(the original) aka Sylvester
October 9th, 2010
7:14 pm
Twitting about eating that Tweeter.
TGT
October 9th, 2010
7:15 pm
Excuse me (again): “
while ignoringignore what science has revealed about the unborn?josef nix
October 9th, 2010
7:19 pm
Hillbilly
Certainly there are many more. I have my own particular interests in Camp Douglass and Ft. Delaware.
I have never quite understood why Andersonville emerges as the iconic and symbolic when the death rates from outright murder, disease, and starvation were proportionately higher in a number of northern pow camps when there was plenty of food and medicine available.
Normal
October 9th, 2010
7:20 pm
TGT
October 9th, 2010
7:11 pm
Trouble with the Pro-Life faction is that they really aren’t. They are just pro fetus. They don’t give a wank about life. If they did, there would be no gripe from them about Social Security or Medicare for the elderly. They would demand programs and support for the betterment of the lives they say they are trying to save.
No sir, until that happens, spare me the emotional clap trap about abortion. I thought y’all wanted Government out of your lives, for chrissakes! Abortion is the woman’s right if she should want it, and then she can explain the reason to the Creator, if it comes to that, and I doubt it will. Quit acting so high and mighty, it makes you look silly!
Dave R.
October 9th, 2010
7:21 pm
“I have never quite understood why Andersonville emerges as the iconic and symbolic . . .”
Because the North won?
AmVet
October 9th, 2010
7:21 pm
As for the lamebrain with this otherwise revolting and exceptionally embarrassing habit, I agree that in and of itself, it is not the most important aspect of this candidate.
Having just looked at his website, What is, is that for the most part he is another garden variety far right wing nut job and Bush “Mission Accomplished” apologist…
Wow, TGT! I was simply looking for a simple yes or no. Not a two course supper of red herrings justifying the widely repudiated positions of the AGW deniers and a virtually universally accepted 150 year old theory.
So with your fervent desire to make abortion illegal again, I presume you would force women to have these babies, correct?
Would you imprison them if they don’t? Or exercise capital punishment, as they are murderers?
Dave R.
October 9th, 2010
7:24 pm
“there would be no gripe from them about Social Security or Medicare for the elderly.”
I’m sorry, but my copy of the Constitution doesn’t mention anything about the elderly getting government-paid vacations for life starting at age 65.
Does yours?
josef nix
October 9th, 2010
7:25 pm
Dave R
That’s about the only thing I’ve been able to come up with.
Hillbilly Deluxe
October 9th, 2010
7:26 pm
“I have never quite understood why Andersonville emerges as the iconic and symbolic . . .”
Because the North won?
The winners write the history books, in all conflicts. Only the losing camp commander experienced the noose, though.
josef nix
October 9th, 2010
7:27 pm
Okay, we’ve got race, abortion and evolution. Palin, anyone?
josef nix
October 9th, 2010
7:28 pm
Hillbilly
And Ole US Grant, author of General Order #11 got to be President and put on a currency note…