Obama v. Fox News, a long American tradition

Fox News is owned by a foreigner who wants to dominate and control U.S. politics. Wake up Fox News viewers…

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“The golden age of an objective press was a pretty narrow span of time in our history.”

Pretty much sums it up.

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The fair and balanced gang loathe the man. It is what their viewers want them to do and they know it. Ratings first; responsibility, accuracy and integrity don’t get advertising dollars..

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So what, nothing new here. Presidents have been fighting the press from day one. Hell Lincoln would put editors in jail and shackles if they didnt support him and his cause for the Civil War. Obama has plenty of other news sources that love everything he does and say, sorry you can’t have them all there chief.

All he does is increase the viewership of FOX everytime he talks about them. He is coming into their gun fight with a knife.

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“Ratings first; responsibility, accuracy and integrity don’t get advertising dollars..”

And slogans aren’t even on the page.

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Here’s how they pitched it on their website:

good. God.

I’m so beyond asking “have they no shame” because we all know the answer.

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meant “Jay’s asking”. sorry

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Maybe the President shouldn’t have stated this however. Fox is like a big bully. They keep picking on you and picking on you . The more you respond back, the worse it gets.

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See………

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Nice Guy – it appears you are the one doing all the crying……

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What do bombs, China and the Pentagon have to do with our economy? Here is how China will prevent our placing protective tariffs on imports.

Reading . . . try it! It’s good for you!

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A: “President of the US Loves Gangsta Rap” – I think that’s awesome and funny – happily not 50 cent.

B: Glad he’s a jazz fan.

C: Someone want to enlighten me (as completely uneducated on opera) who Maria Callas is?

D: He’s comments seem fine to me. He can comment all he wants (right to free speech of course), the government just needs to keep its legal hands off FOX (and the other networks).

Don’t see the controversy here….. (except in FOX -world)

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Gotta Love FOX!! They are the most anti Prez/Dem/Minorities business I’ve ever seen. Whats funny is that I rarely see any negative stories about Republicans. All the wanna be Republican Prez hopefuls are all paid by fox. News Corp (FOX) $1 Million donation made to the Republicans shows exactly whats going on. One of the funniest things i saw on the news commentators was when they were comparing the Nuclear Security Summit’s logo to the crescent moon of Muslim countries!!
LOL…and to them, thats called JOURNALISM

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It’s amazing how Jay and his Progressive followers who post here don’t focus on the real stories that FOX reports because most of the legacy media is in the tank for Obama. Here’s an example:

(Edited from Heritage) Just after midnight this morning, Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) gaveled the House out of session, assuring that Congress will adjourn until after the November elections without taking any action to stop the Obama tax hikes (Bush tax reductions). Earlier in the day, 39 Democrats defied Speaker Pelosi and voted with the minority to keep the House in session until they could vote on the impending tax hikes. Pelosi, who rarely votes on day-to-day legislation, was forced to cast the tie breaking vote (210-209) on the adjournment resolution.

Nancy get her way and taxes go up on everyone, unless the lame duck session makes a retroactive change. No messy hearings on Rangel and Waters to embarrass the Dems. No budget, instead a continuing resolution. In short, more dirty politics by the Left. Yet, the Left choses to focus on bad old FOX.

Since you are focusing on FOX, it would do all who care good if they would look into the groups participating in the One Nation gathering. It includes many openly Communist and Socialist organizations. Obama has endorsed it, but you will tell me he is not a Socialist. Right, just like Nixon was not a crook.

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RIP Tony Curtis

What’s wrong, Johnny – still itching to give more of our money to those who don’t need it?

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Doggone – glad to know you’re as much up to speed on MC as I am.

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“glad to know you’re as much up to speed on MC as I am.”

Oh no, I’m way ahead of you. I’ve known who she is for 30 years. But I’m not a fan. So if you want INFORMATION about her, try using your fingers and look her up.

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Hope and Change, Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, Fox News, Kenyan Muslim, Tea Party… Bwahahhahahahahahaaha!!!!!!!!

Each and every goober will soon enough have something more serious to deal with while TPTB sails on laughing at their false issues. That something more serious is the peanut butter sandwich they will soon be eating for sure. Hint: it is not peanut butter! Bwahahahaha!!!

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“President of the US Loves Gangsta Rap”

Those rappers are such great roll models to our kids!!!!!

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Midori@10:25 – Jay’s piece is right about one thing. Obama does have a lot in common with Roosevelt. Both were very destrcutive for our nation. Roosevelt prolonged the depression, just a Obama is prolonging the recession. And yes, if more of my money is to be forced from me to route to others, I prefer choosing who gets it.

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“And, lest we forget, the Michelle Obama “Whitey” Video.”

Ahhhhh yes, that too! LOL

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“what station is truly fair and balanced?”

That isn’t the point. The point is an obviously biased network using that slogan to lie to their viewers. They can be as biased as they like, just tell the TRUTH about that bias.

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Someone criticized Johnny Depp here the other day for being a traitor. His treason: in an interview from their French home, he said “Thank God we escaped from the US”. Call me a traitor too, as i am extremely grateful to have escaped from the A**hole South and the US..

Now, eat that sandwich, and as billionaire Charlie Munger says, “Suck it up Goobers! Suck it up!”

Schadenfreude is WONDERFUL!!! And it looks like i will be enjoying it for years!!!

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This subject also shows the true essence of the SC ruling on corporations. Prior to the ruling, these media corp barons were the ONLY corps with a voice – protected by the first amendment. Logic dictates that the court had 2 choices – go against the 1st or eliminate discrimination against all the other corps.

I don’t see how they could have ruled any other way.

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Jay,
It’s one thing when a responsible, fact-based media holds politicians accountable, those we don’t like, and especially the ones we like and support, but yet another when a network, inextricably connected with a political group (Republicans) constantly attacks the President and other Democrats with propaganda, lies, and falsehoods. While they [Fox] have every right to do so, their demise is guaranteed when their viewers (especially the middle and lower economic classes), discover to their detriment , that Fox and the Republicans could care less about them.

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“If you can’t stand a little push back from politicians, you better go find another line of work, because you’re too much of a wimp for this one.” Interesting comment because it also works in reverse. Obama, the Democrats and their supporters in the left wing news media have been whining ad nauseam about their perceived notion that Fox News is biased against them. I can remember GWB taking flack unmercifully from the MSM and the left in this country and never saying a word against his news media antagonists. I guess by Jay’s criteria Obama must be a wimp.

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“I hear you railing against Fox but never hear you calling out CNN or MSNBC for their slanted views. Why is that?”

Because those are on their “side”. A divided nation requires 2 teams……….

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Is our President speaking about the opinion shows or just the hard news portion, which is only from 5am til 4pm?

As i have seen many defend Jay and his liberally slanted view on things as a non-issue because he is an opinion piece.

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Audience Poll time:

All you on here who are dancing around because, once again, Jay has fed you a great dinner with a tasty desert…please be so kind as to give me recent examples of Fox News inaccuracies (and don’t say Shirley Sherrod).

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Del – there’s some truth to your point at 10:38, and I think people have grown a perception that he’s a wimp (although I don’t think Obama’s a wimp, I don’t think his spine is made of steel either). A certain component of America seems to want John Wayne available for President in 2012. Not sure who that’d be nowadays….

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Go back to the early part of the 19th century and you’ll find that “slanted” news, of today, is tame in comparison. It’s much ado about nothing. All anybody has to do is change the channel. (I hardly ever watch any of them).

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Jimmy62

September 30th, 2010
10:40 am

That does not fit the political stereotype and therefore must not be true……

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Well at least we’re off that O’keefe, CNN Boudreau joke that no other outlet’s been particularly interested in.

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Hi Midori!!!

Do you have a link for the 10:30?

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Hey, the South is an equal opportunity region – here we have an equal number of white and black racists. But they will all deny it.

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jm,

I wouldn’t classify him as a wimp either. I do think he’s largely incompetent as POTUS and does whine when faced with disagreement. Coolness was supposed to be his strong suit but it’s been slipping greatly.

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Liberals hate Fox News because it is the ONLY major network who actually investigates and provides facts and evidence to combat the consistent lies Democrats like Pelosi and Obama try and pull on their naive voting base…

People love to rag on Beck, but Beck provides more concrete facts and evidence than any other commentator on any major network. Beck even uses quotes directly from the mouth of Obama and Pelosi; yet the liberals always talk about how he is spewing vicious lies..

The Libs can’t stand the fact the Fox News continues to dominate all of the networks by a LARGE margin and is growing by the day….same with the Tea Party…so they attack them as racists…its sickening. Fortunately, Americans are picking up on this by the day and the Lib’s are pulling out all the stops

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I wonder if this is why the assault resumed. Similar to another, recent poll, isn’t it?

“Americans are turning to cable channels more than broadcast networks to get information about politics and current events, according to a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll.

Almost half of the respondents, or 48%, named Fox News (24%), CNN (16%) or MSNBC (8%) as their main source on TV for politics and current events. About one-third of respondents, or 35%, said that they watched traditional networks such as NBC, ABC or CBS. 16% answered that they don’t watch any of these news sources.

The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.1 percentage points.”

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2010/09/29/wsjnbc-poll-cable-channels-top-networks-as-news-source/

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I don’t watch any TV news but my question is this….for liberals, what station is truly fair and balanced?

I hear you railing against Fox but never hear you calling out CNN or MSNBC for their slanted views. Why is that?

For someone that don’t watch no TV news, you shore nuff has done formulated yoreself quite the opinion of some of them.

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NiceGuy – I report; you decide.

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or should I say: I retort; you deride?

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Doggone – you in a sour mood because the Dems are going to get walloped in Nov?

Funny thing, while the Dems won’t control the agenda almost no matter what (because even if the Reps don’t win the House, it’ll be very close), the Dems may still hold the House. You never know. Buck up.

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Kamchak

September 30th, 2010
10:54 am

You don’t remember all of the talk of republicns being in the wilderness, hell a poster who proclaimed it many times has posted this am.

However if the republicns can take back the house and/or senate then it would be newsworthy.

I mean seriously after all of the bluster and bragging and sh*t talking by dmocrats after 2008 one would have thought the republicna party wouldn’t exist any longer.

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Del – agreed. And he tries to overexplain things. He needs a simple story and seems incapable of crafting one. His answers to questions take for…ev….er. I know the issues are complicated, but he needs simple answers to help people understand what he’s doing and why.

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Well folks, I asked for some recent examples of inaccuracies reported by Fox News back @ 10:41, and dispite the sudden uptick in Google activity, I have yet to be provided one example.

Though I do see some new brain power has entered the room @ 10:54, so perhpas not all hope is lost…..

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john: “Liberals hate Fox News because it is the ONLY major network who actually investigates and provides facts…”

Google the words “Fox News lies” and you’ll get millions and millions of search results proving john wrong. (Incidentally, with a few exceptions, most major network and cable news shows lie or distort to serve their corporate masters. Fox, however, takes it further to the extreme.)

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Joe

September 30th, 2010
11:04 am

Are those lies from opinion shows or from actual news coverage…. between 5am and 4pm?

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jm and Del – I have noticed Obama’s speech… delivery…. has become…. increasingly,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,halting. Does not indicate coolness to me. Sound more like p1ssed off.

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Bernie Goldberg has written material along with creditable documentation regarding bias in the MSM. Anyone who doubts may want to read his books.

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An honest objective press with no political leanings one way or the other would be a wonderful thing. Unfortunately, we will all see pigs flying before this kind of press ever comes to be.

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However if the republicns[sic] can take back the house and/or senate then it would be newsworthy.

Never said it wasn’t, sport…but historically it would only be living up to expectations.

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CBS? MSNBC? ABC? CNN? NPR? MAJOR MAGAZINES? THOUSANDS OF NEWSPAPERS?

Give me a break …………………..

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Pennsylvanian – I think he’s just trying to be careful in his word choice, and deliberative in his answers.

It doesn’t create trust, and it doesn’t help people grasp the problem….

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Jay:

Christians are baptized. Has Obama been? To my knowledge he won’t say.

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Since Rolling Stone is a great “news” paper and filled with respected “journalists”, it must all be true.

Outside of a puff piece tailored just for this candidate(he seems to be running for something), one great big yawn.

Listen, the free market and the free press need each other. Unfortunately, we have neither.

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PA@11:06, The veneer has been cracking and the polls appear to reflect it.

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Nice Guy 11:01

Sometimes it’s not lying, as in deliberately making a statement one knows to be false.

Sometimes it’s stretching definitions, giving them new meanings, then acting as if that’s the only way to interpret it.

Simple example. Much of what airs on Fox is opinion, presented by people who don’t pretend to be journalists. But take Hannity and his absolute assertion “Obama is a socialist.’ It’s never couched in terms of “my opinion.” It’s presented as fact. Even though we’ve here discussed, many times, articles from reputable news organizations that refute that, such nonsense persists.

There’s the way he defends birther assertions as ‘legitimate.’ Again, it’s an opinion show. But he seems to me to blur the lines in what he presents.

Another opinion show – last night O’Reilly’s talking points was on what “The Progressive Agenda” is. One flat-out statement after another. To his credit, he immediately followed with Dee Dee Myers, Pres Clinton’s press secretary, who labeled them ‘right wing caricatures.” BOR pretty much blew past any specifics she offered in rebuttal without rebutting her comments.

Here’s what he said

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/oreilly/transcript/progressive-values

and here’s the followup with Ms Myers

http://vodpod.com/watch/4547295-bill-oreilly-interviews-dee-dee-myers-on-progressive-values-092910

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On the evidence of that interview, RW, yes, he is.

I disagree and I’ve also seen many other segments with him. He’s extremely thoughtful and quite tolerant. You ought to try it sometime.

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Obama’s policies have been far more destructive that Fox News could ever hope to be.
But here’s why he is an idiot for saying it: He shows he is afraid of them and calling them out gives them more advertising and power. He is generating viewership Fox News would never have had.
Clinton hated these guys and Rush and all the conservative movement, but he never said a word. He did not want to give them more attendtion than they had.
Lastly, calling out the most popular news organization in the country is just a plain bad idea. There’s nothing he can do about it, saying stuff about them makes them stronger not him.
He sounds afraid of them and that makes them look more powerful than they are.
In as much as all the liberal news organizations ripped Bush (and Fox did too for that matter), he never said anything or showed any fear. Believe me, the NYT’s, CNN’s, WSJ’s, MSNBC’s of the world would love to be called out by the president. It shows they are getting under his skin.
I never watch television news of any sort, I only read it. I can skip over the Lindsey Lohan bullcrap that way.

Thanks Jay for providing yet more advertising for Fox News.

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From the Constitution: “no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.”

Well! You just wait until Scout gets elected.

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“The point is he “says he is a Christian” but he won’t say anything about his baptism”

From the Constitution: “no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.”

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Anyway, to your larger point about the Media Matters piece it does demonstrate one of the big problems with 24 hour cable news/opinion. I wouldn’t call that a news piece but it does come within the confines of a show largely built around news. I think you’ll find that the same thing exists on all the channels where they have opinion segments within news programs and news segments within mostly opinion programs.

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Jay (Just in case you missed my response to you last night:

Even though you are wrong, you made my point to Margo that it was not a military defeat.
We took our football and went home.

Revisionist history is easy. I suggest you and Margo read “An American Anmensia (How the U.S. Congress Forced The Surrenders of South Vietnam and Cambodia)” by Bruce Herschensohn. It basically describes how America signed a treaty (to obtain a cease fire) stating they would use air power to help repel any North Vietnamese Invasion. We signed the treaty, a contract ……….. then shamefully walked away from it with no honor.

The American soldier can hold their head high. Some of the American People, Congress of that day and you cannot.

By the way, leaving as we did cost an estimated two million Cambodian lives as long as you are couinting bodies.

As far as your personally condesending, sacastic, unpatriotic remarks aimed at me, this quote fits you perfectly. It’s from another war that a huge portion of the American people were against and in fact fought for the other side:

“Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say ‘what should be the reward of such sacrifices?’ … If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands, which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!” Samuel Adams

1) Here’s the main reason I volunteered to fight in V.N.

Vietnam Magazine (2010)

“In late December, a 60 year-old former lieutenant colonel and proponent of democratic reforms in Vietnam, Tran Anh Kim, was convicted of subversion and sentenced to five years in prison. According to press reports, Kim’s trial was the first of a series of upcoming prosecutions of pro-democracy and human-rights activists. Kim, who faced a potential death sentence, stood accused of joining an organization promoting multiparty democracy, of posting pro-democracy articles on the Internet and being a member of an outlawed party.”

2) The second reason I volunteered for Vietnam is that “my country” (who betrayed me) called on a naive 18 year old kid to help enforce its foreign policy (since polticians, dipolmats and armchair warriors are not into that part of the messes they make).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AqESKOaeGk (Jim Reeves – “Distant Drums)

3) Our casualties during our War for Independence were probably per capita as much as Vietnam. In any case, thank goodness the French troops were not under control of an organization like the U.S. Congress or the British would have kicked our a** and General Washington, et al would have been hung as traitors.

4) “If there was immorality in the war in Vietnam, it was that a democratic nation called her citizens to war, had them killed by the tens of thousands, and then, like a faithless lover, turned and scorned the survivors.” David Donovan

5) Your words ……….. “Get over it.”

Let me just say, that anyone who has carried dead Americans from the field of battle never gets over it. It’s a lifetime price we pay for serving and protecting the ungrateful.

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I watched Jay’s video, and the Catholic priest who went on Fox specifically to give the impression that Obama isn’t one of us reinforces my decision to leave the Catholic Church. That man might be a Catholic, but he’s no Christian.

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Scout,

As IF! We’re onto you and your fantasy of taking the President down to the river and dunking his head under water. It’s not funny. Did you tell the Secret Service that you’re volunteering to help him out with his baptism needs?

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MORRIS: You know, not too bad. Charitably interpreted, pretty good. But it’s not how the average Christian in the United States would answer that question. “I’m a Christian by choice.” “It was the precepts of Christianity — of Jesus Christ that attracted me.” The precepts. That’s not how the average Christian would respond. Christianity for most Christians who have it as a big part of their life, it’s a falling in love not with precepts. Who’s going to fall in love with the Ten Commandments? It’s the falling in love with — or the getting to know personally — a person named Jesus of Nazareth.

What’s intolerant about that?

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“What’s intolerant about that?”

It’s called “damning with faint praise”

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RW-(the original) :

Good words. Plus ……. you don’t become a Christian by “choice”. You become one by the Grace of God when the Holy Spirit draws you. Even the gift of faith is given by God …….. a concept impossible for humans to understand.

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RW 11:26 – doesn’t seem intolerant. However. I actually like the path Obama took to Christianity better. Means he thought about which religion he like the most first… then studied it.

Whatever, I frankly believe (in the passe Southern Tradition), that a person’s religion and specific details are up to them to keep quiet, even if they’re in public office. Completely nutball religions excluded.

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Matti :

Cute but not good debate and you dodge the question.

I retired from the U.S. Secret Service as a supervisor after 27 years of service and therefor I know the difference between:

1) Free Speech
2) A person of interest
3) An implied threat
4) A direct threat

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“3) His silence is deafening”

From the Constitution: “no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.”

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And true enough, Hemmer’s statement was indeed false. However, this isn’t the type of ‘lies’ that gets BHO or your blogger’s underwear all bunched up.

Shorter Nice guy: I don’t like your example, so it doesn’t count. So there. Nyaaaaaah.

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Fox simply filled a void left by a news media which was overwhelmingly liberal. The need for this was obvious and the effort was rewarded handsomely.

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what’s going to happen in November?

The Great Pumpkin will arrive?

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Kamchak – “Shorter Nice guy: I don’t like your example, so it doesn’t count. So there. Nyaaaaaah.”

Wrong again Kam.

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sfd 11:35 – I’m always scared of anyone that’s half white. Heaven knows what a half-white man might do in this world. I find it funny that people look at a person that’s only “half” black (genetically probably far less) and call him a black man. Whatever. It’s all silliness…

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I’d also like to submit my 11:35 for consideration in the Run-on Sentence of the Day Award.

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Faux the puppeteer pulling the tea repuplicans strings, foreign owned, favorite of sheep across America.

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If that furraner Obamer was not took down to the creek and dunked by a preacher he ain’t no Christian. Can I git a ‘Amen’?

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Why are some people splitting hairs about obama and his christian faith? Remember, god is omnipresent and knows his heart – move on. Which I know will be hard because of faux news and their great stable of cuckoo personalities.

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Personally, I could care less what Bozo’s musical tastes are or what he listens to. It would be nice. however, if he started listening to the American people. 34days and counting. Let the neutering begin.

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Doggone/GA:

Two points:

1) If you follow Christ you should do the very first thing He commanded …….. baptism.

2) At least you said so ……… Obama won’t.

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Scout,

Your constant harping on the President’s religion (or anyone else’s) is boring. Why don’t you log off your computer, get down on what’s left of your scraggly knees, and pray for the President, the country, and the rest of us? If you really believe the *stuff* you spew on here every day, then doing that will yield a far greater result than your constant, old-lady nagging and constant pleas for attention. (If you don’t believe all tha stuff you claim to believe, then by all means, keep BORING us with it here on the blog.) Enjoy your lunch!

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The most fair and balanced news is on PBS. The Newshour.

Agreed, they’re probably the most even-handed popular American TV news source. I feel that if nothing else, I’m not watching something with a serious ax to grind with one side or another when I watch the NewsHour.

That said, they happily swallow whatever conventional inside-the-Beltway wisdom is considered conventional, a lot of the time. Thus it can be infuriating for me sometimes if I’m especially well informed about a particular topic and some hack on Side A and some hack on Side B are civilly disagreeing about some distraction issue while ignoring more important core issues.

But still, it’s better than what the other commercial tv channels give you.

(Ditto their radio counterpart, NPR.)

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Why Midori @ 11.51, that’s crazy paranoid talk, that is!

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“2) At least you said so ……… Obama won’t.”

From the Constitution: “no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.”

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scout
**The thief on the cross died before he could be baptised yet Jesus said, “Today you shall be with Me in paradise”.**

Christianity is mired down with too many man made rules or interpretations of rules. Whats wrong with just being christ like?

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Doggone/GA:

This has nothing to do with the Constitution.

It’s only personal ………… one Christian to another.

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Mick:

It depends on what you mean by being “Christ like”. That means following His example AND His commands.

Some people don’t like the “commands” part ……….. so that’s not following.

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scout

Give me an example of a COMMAND.

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Paul @ 11:49-

Not a bad idea. But they would be the trend setter in the current cable media environment if they were to give someone like that a full hour during ‘primetime’, would they not? From a political commentatry perspective, I can’t of an example of this on other networks. Perhaps because 1.) finding someone to so perfectly fit that template but also 2.) fits in with other network hosts, is dang near impossible.

But what about Juan Williams? He is a frequent guest on Fox shows and has a regular spot on the weekend show. He also is on Hannity a good bit.

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Fox and WSJ and the Post for conservatives. Liberal pres is everything else; ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, LA Times, NY Times, AJC, NPR, SF chronicle,Chicago Tribune, everything owned by Cox, etc., etc., etc. The only thing free about the press is there are still a few, very few, voices left for the conservative side.

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I don’t think bias is the issue. Everyone has some degree of bias depending on the issue and I’m distrustful of anyone who says they have no bias whatsoever. It is politics after all. The problem is when people say things that are completely false or only have a single grain of truth surrounded by lies and distortions. Louis Farrakan was a master at this but there are many who do the same thing now, sadly. If you go to politifact and read through the “pants of fire” section you’ll some of the outrageous claims that have been made the past few years. You’ll also see that about 80% are from the right.

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Paul,

If you’ve watched Fox News and MSNBC and you’re fair, you would know that Fox overall presents a more balanced opinion commentary. If some like Beck or Hannity present their views more aggressively on Fox than you also know that the other cable news personalities present their respective views in a equally aggressive manner, if not more so. I watch Fox News because my political views are conservative. You probably favor the other guys because your political views are on the liberal side of the spectrum. Wouldn’t that be a fair observation?

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“I think they need to bring on, with their own show, an avowed, capable, respected liberal. ”

I don’t agree. I think they just need to change their advertising slogan to something less misleading. I don’t care if they’re biased, just don’t claim they aren’t.

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“if Obama does talk about his Baptism”

Muslims get baptized?!!?

//sarc//

RW-(the original) 11:38

I don’t think anyone would challenge you on that –

Scout

“If you follow Christ you should do the very first thing He commanded …….. baptism.”

Immersion or sprinkling? What age? And, what about those who say “all you have to do is confess him with your lips”?

We have people on here who have some pretty strong views on who is and who isn’t a real Christian, you know, ’cause they don’t follow the ‘right’ way. Particularly if you belong to one of ‘those’ groups.

Midori 11:51

The chink I find in that line of reasoning is, many of the category of people cited (white, who don’t like Obama because he’s not white) are the ones who helped put him in office.

I think the racist charge is a bit too convenient, but it is easier to lay down then to have an open discussion of where his performance hasn’t measured up to expectations.

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If wonder if some folks, like Scout, would only accept Obama as a true Christian if he had the long baptism versus the short form.

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jm:

It’s not whether I disagree with them ……….. it’s what Christ taught they have to deal with.

Got to go for awhile. You all be nice to each other and just stick to debate.

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FIRST!!

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Mick: “If you don’t have a sword, buy one.” I couldn’t find a sword I like, so I settled for a ranch rifle.

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The chink I find in that…

RACIST!

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Del – I think Christ is authorized to waive the rules.

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Nice Guy

You’re correct, that would be a trendsetter. And I agree – I can’t think of another network or cable station that has such a lineup.

I like listening to Mr. Williams. Problem is, he’s been attacked by many on the Left as a sell-out, as not “really” Progressive, all because he’s a Fox contributor. Some of the attacks against him have been pretty vicious.

But I’d like to see him with his own show after a non-contributing Liberal gets a slot.

Del

“You probably favor the other guys because your political views are on the liberal side of the spectrum. Wouldn’t that be a fair observation?”

Only because today’s Thursday, and according to the color-coded calendar Bosch gave me, today is Be a Conservative Day.

Seriously, I’ve been, on this blog, called a loony lib, a lib, a neocon, a con….

I like issues. Don’t much care if my position falls on the con or lib side on a particular issue.

I’ll say Fox does provide alternate voices. Some of the hosts do kind of blow past their arguments, though.

Scout

My earlier post to you? See Drifter’s response.

Drifter: and some will say, then why did Jesus get baptized and say it was necessary? Then there’s Jesus’s talk with the woman at the well, the ‘except a man be born of water and of the spirit” thing. Then there’s Jesus’s words to his apostles of go ye into all the world, and he that believes AND is baptized shall be saved”

See how it goes round and round and round?

My thought? Whatever works for you, fine. Just recognize that other stuff works for other sincere people, too.

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Anyone know why they are searching trucks on I20 for explosives? Is there a specific threat?

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“Baptism is not a relgious test. Being a member or not of any Religious or not would be”

Harping on it turns it into a religious test. A “religious test” is ANYTHING to do with religion.

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Hiya Midori!

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Will any body tell me any so call news org. media , critic, editorial writer, celebrity who is more fair and balanced than Fox.

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DeepThroat

September 30th, 2010
12:27 pm
Will any body tell me any so call news org. media , critic, editorial writer, celebrity who is more fair and balanced than Fox.

Answer: All the above.

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PA@12:16,

I think that maybe some might misunderstand the meaning of Baptism. Baptism is an expression of faith. Baptism, in and of itself doesn’t offer salvation. Salvation comes from going to God in prayer, confessing your sins, asking forgiveness, accepting Jesus Christ, his sacrifice, and belief in his resurrection. The moment someone does that with a true and humble heart, they immediately receive God’s gift of eternal life. Now while that person has then received God’s gift of salvation, if his or her confession was indeed sincere they would follow through with their public display of faith through Baptism. BTW…you’re correct Christ can waive any rule that he may choose to waive.

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penn – b-of-a bldg in midtown is always biggest risk in atl

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Jay can not say he is more fair and balanced than Fox.

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I thought it was pretty much confirmed that a person was about to be born of the water when the mama says something to the effect that she thinks her water just broke. Course, that don’t account for the birth of those that is hatched, I reckon.

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Deep Throat

“Will any body tell me any so call news org. media , critic, editorial writer, celebrity who is more fair and balanced than Fox.”

Are you saying a critic, editorial writer, or celebrity is fair and balanced? I thought they were supposed to offer their opinions? Have an ideology to promote? Classify themselves?

Fox makes the point that, overall, it does not have an axe to grind. I think that’s a bit disingenuous.

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Hi Paul

check out this video someone just sent me about Eddie Long.

HILARIOUS!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBwlR0wrhkw

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Fox News AGAIN?!?! This is becoming ludicrous Jay. It’s almost become a 2-3 times a week topic. In the words of our President, Barack HUSEIN Obama, “Let’s be clear…” Fox News is NOT THE PROBLEM. Obama’s POLICIES are the problem. Certainly, if all you watch on Fox is Hannity, not a journalist but a commentator, you may get that opinion. If however you watch their NEWS PROGRAMS, they are FAIR AND BALANCED. They give the NEWS, NOT THEIR OPINIONS.

What is so disturbing to the dems is that when Fox reports the daily NEWS, the TRUTH of their policies condemn them. It is hard for them to recognize an actual OBJECTIVE REPORT because they rarely see one on any other channel.

Jay, you of all people should avoid accusing any other organization of bias. You epitomize it. JUST LIKE ON FOX, when you step into your “commentator” role, you give your opinions and they reek of your bias in favor of all things liberal. About once or twice a week I watch one of the other news shows, (ABC, CBS, NBC, or CNN), and I am shocked by the liberal slants they add to their stories. Obama is right, there is very little left in the way of objective journalism. However, he picked the wrong target. But then, why would you kill the golden goose?

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Well duty calls, actually my stomach first and then duty. Later…y’all play fair now.

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Hi Midori!

I got to the part about “What’s the emergency? We already knew that!” and I thought about Pres Clinton’s…. peccadilloes…

It was, to anyone who’d really been following him, like, hey! You’re surprised?!!? Where’ve you been?

Del

Just a casual observation – Father Jonathan Morris was brought up earlier. Catholic. They hold, I think, baptism as an essential sacrament. Has to be done in a certain way by one duly authorized and given the proper authority, which I understand they trace back to St Peter and Jesus. Meaning a member of the Roman Catholic clergy. So isn’t it correct, strictly speaking, by that view,

ya’ll can do what you want, but you still ain’t saved?

See what I mean about whatever works for you?

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Woodstock Bob are familiar with the writings of Lil Barry Bailout? LOL.

Again for you parrots and ostriches, the media in this country does nor have a liberal bias, it has a corporate bias.

The corporate conglomerates Disney, CBS Corporation, News Corporation, TimeWarner, and General Electric own the majority of mass media outlets.

That is why there is virtually NO information critical of these corporations, even though there has been an enormous corporate crime wave in America for decades now.

Wake up and quit apologizing for your favorite, failed political party…

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Interesting commentary….

http://noir.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&sid=aEWclYj4AFhg

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Deep Throat

Just to clarify, my first response to you was to take the position that the categories you cited – critic, editorialist, etc – are by their very nature NOT balanced. Or ‘fair.’ Unless it’s a ‘fair’ representation of their views. And they were ‘fair’ in evaluating the sources that led to their position.

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Maybe they’ll help Christine O’Donnell get to be a Senator.

WellPoint, AT&T, Altria Step Up Donations to Sway State Races

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-09-30/wellpoint-at-t-altria-step-up-donations-to-sway-state-races.html

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In order for Fox News to be independent, they would have to be independent of the GOP and that’s not going to happen anytime soon.

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Paul its obvious how you assimulate it.

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Someone who would call someone a tool is a tosser. A dumb one at that.

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The liberal drooling and frothing over Fox News is most amusing. CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, (taxpayer assisted NPR), and just about every major “news” paper is run by liberals with a liberal Dem slant. In fact, as in the case of Chris Matthews during the election two years ago, they have “tingling feelings” going up their legs over Obama. When was the last time you saw ANY of the aforementioned media outlets investigate or even write one single negative story on the White House or Nanny’s Congress for that matter?

Actually when viewing commentary on Fox News, it’s way more balanced than anything I’ve ever watched on CNN or MSNBC. Both O’Reilly and Hannity will have opposing (liberal) guests that counter comments. Watch the Sunday morning talk shows like those run by Chris Matthews and see how many opposing (conservative) guests are on. But of course the socialist neo-Marxist modern liberals actually think they are the centrists and the moderates, and anyone who is to the right of them is a far right wing nut case worthy of Gitmo detaining (the only time they support that institution mind you – no radical Islamic terrorists should be going there but Americans with an opposing view should – yes, liberals have said as much on blogs).

But ultimately, to have a sitting president and even members of Congress spend so much time whining about a media outlet (that doesn’t bow to His Royal Majesty Obama) is shameful and pathetic. Even Bush didn’t do any complaining about the aforementioned liberal slanting media outlets.

Grow up, Democrats. The nation is not all about you, your views, your beliefs, your ideologies, and your dogma.

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They are not a news network, Sean Hannity 3 times college drop out, Glen Beck ex drug user, this people are bias and make 100 million between, they are for people that can not read or research for themself.
Walter Kronkite, Roger Mudd, these people were news people.

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You know, the liberals on this blog and some of the commentators complain there’s nothing specific in the Republican proposal. That’s true.

But what’s not true is the idea that Republicans don’t have a plan or ideas to fix the economy. They do, and while they’re needed, they’re not terribly popular. They all involve shrinking government and fixing entitlements.

However, since entitlements and large government are (generally) the manifestations of the liberal agenda, why should Republicans be blamed for doing the common sense thing to do: let the liberals fall on their own sword?

Big government will bankrupt this country (if not fixed). It is up to the liberals to fix the problem they created, or watch the country go bankrupt and then watch all of government crash including entitlements.

The solution is available. The Republicans will vote for the conservative fixes if the Democrats propose them. But the Democrats have to propose them, because the Democrats positioned the chess board in the Republicans favor.

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I blocked Fox News from my channel lineup years ago.

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Bush didn’t complain about the liberal Fox News Channel! I wonder why.

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Fox News coverage = Fair and balanced. Even when they have commentators on a political news report, they have people from both sides.

Fox Opinion shows – Not fair and balanced, and never claim to be.

But it is much easier for those who hate to see the mainstream media and the least qualified person in any room be questioned rather than pandered to be given a broad, sweeping “Fox News” banner under which to charge.

Doesn’t make the charge any more truthful, but it gets the liberal yahoos knickers in a bunch.

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Deep Throat

What can I say? It’s “Be a Conservative” Thursday.

Most outlets exhibit some bias. The bias varies with the perceptions of the viewer. Some don’t try to hide it – like editorialists. Some try to maintain objectivity – like wire services. Some try to maintain it in their news reporting – and some of those will even acknowledge they don’t always succeed. Some will say they’re fair and get scoffed at by those who disagree – witness Fox New and the New York Times.

I think what’s at least as important is, what happens when one of those outlets, or their viewers, gets confronted with information that contradicts their positions?

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Nope. I cannot recall Bush ever ever complaining about media treatement. Ever. It was considered beneath the dignity of the office of the presidency to complain about the press. That’s the difference between Bush and this thin skinned wimp currently in office. Obama whines about the one, single network willing to cover him fairly.

What do liberals want? Every other media outlet- ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, all of them are solidly in the Obama camp. 5-1 in favor of the liberals. And so what does Obama do? Complain about the one single voice in the wilderness willing to criticize him. Speaks volumes about Obama and Democrates in general.

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Correction: In Georgia, not ” In Geirgua” – typo

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You never heard Walter Cronkite, insulting the President of the Unites States.

MSNBC has some bias to, but at least if the Rep did something correct they would report it.

Obama pass the small business bill, Beck, Hannity never reported these people are a joke and people follow these idiots.

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John – take a breather… whew. Don’t want to blow a heart valve or anything…

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Lil Barry Bailout, oh yes, the msm that from 2000 – 2008 constantly clamored for impeachment hearings against the most serially impeachable POTUS in the nation’s long history, didn’t they?

No. They gave that deadly incompetent an almost completely free pass, as did the spineless Dems in congress, and that still wasn’t enough for you apologists.

They couldn’t slobber fast enough to air his “Crusades”. It was non stop pro-war talking heads for weeks on ALL of the MSM channels. Did you sleep through that? They barely covered his lying and corruption and they handled Bush with kid-gloves since Day One.

The free press is supposed to play a watchdog role. It’s supposed to keep an eye on our leaders and hold them accountable for their actions. Above all, the media is supposed to tell America the truth.

And vis a vis the Reign of Error, they failed their role miserably.

But by all means enlighten me as to all of these innumerable “vociferous attacks”. I’m sure you must have dozens of examples and mountains of data to bolster this claim.

(And don’t forget that Irish journalist Carol Coleman. I’m sure you are clueless on the matter but read up and learn something. Georgie was completely cornfused (SIC on purpose) by her hard-hitting questions and was actually offended that Coleman wasn’t tossing him the usual softball, fluff questions that he’d gotten used to from the U.S. press corps.)

Cue up the thin skinned, fact-free retort…

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz….

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Hey John: Will are you idiots going to understand thi, Obama told the people when he was runing for office he was going to change Health care, so how is it raming it down your throat when he campaign for it.

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I wish Liberals would acknowledge they have the upper hand in much (or even most) of the media. You’d think they would be proud to be driving Conservatives nuts….

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Paul how would you rate Dan Rather ? I do know he’s retired but if you bash Fox, you want mind qualifying yourself.

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Real American – all I can seem to remember from Obama’s platform is Hope, and Change. The rest was buried somewhere on an obscure Obama 2008 web page. Just kidding. But most people had no idea what they were voting for. And now that they’ve got it, they don’t like it. So they changed their mind. Now they’re going to vote for the other guys. What’s wrong with that?

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Amvet,

What specifically did Bush lie about? And don’t even say the Iraq war. All the Dem members of the congressional committee saw the same intelligence and they all concluded the same thing as the French, Russian, German, British, Israeli, and CIA intelligence svcs- that Saddamm still possessed weapons of mass destruction.

And btw, maybe you didn’t notice this since it was covered so lightly but we did in fact recover in Iraq a year or 2 ago about 900 pounds of yellowcake uranium which is used for enrichment for nuclear weapons. Or did you miss that story since it was on the very back page of most newspapers and only included 2 short paragraphs? Talk about media bias?

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Media Bias? I never saw that story. Do you remember the approximate time frame…what time of year?

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Chuck,

It was in the news and can be googled. It was also in the last year of Bush’s presidency. It is a fact. I’m one of those strange people that reads the whole paper on Sundays front and back. I was visiting Montgomery where my parents live and on the very back last page of the paper there it was- it was an AP story. When I got home to ATL it was roughly in the same place- the very back of the paper in 2 small paragraphs in that section that has small tidbits of what’s going on around the world.. It basically got no news play. Boortz and some other conservative talk shows talked about it because they couldn’t believe such big news could be ignored. But it was and that is a fact. Matter of fact I think I’ll google it right now.

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Thanks MB, I found it.

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I can recite the 10 Commandments. Well, a few of them anyway.

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AmVwt, you and jconservative need to go on tour together. both posts reflect the perfect storm that is our media. news outlets are businesses, not wells of information offering water to those who thirst for knowledge. it really is nothing more than supply and demand, and Murdoch/Fox. GE/NBC, Disney/ABC, et al KNOW that if you “own the information” you can actually double dip because some American want information and others simply want to be (as jcon notes) entertained. It’s no different than some face-painting UGA fan or Falcon fan thinking “football” has ANYTHING to do with the graniose productions staged in Athens and at the Georgia Dome every weekend. jcon is also right when it comes to Murdoch’s savvy as a purveyor of “news”. you can present middle of the road, dispassionate information (dare I say; fair an balanced) if you want the ratings and revenue of the McNeill-Laher Report; OR you can zero in on the base and be what Warren Buffet calls “best of breed”. And fair or unbalanced, Fox News hits the bull’s eye more than it misses. I know folks in the TV News “biz” – and not just a couple of CNN types, and they are far to cynical (and fiscally ruthless) to worry about veracity. it’s about ratings and ad revenue.

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As was noted earlier, Pres Bush didn’t complain about any of the channels.

Well, I certainly wouldn’t know since I have never checked his every word but if that is the case then perhaps he felt like he had no need to get after them for lies, distortions or whatever one might feel a need to get after a channel for.

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I’d love to give Hannity a atomic wedgie….

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Real American,
you stated “Obama pass the small business bill, Beck, Hannity never reported these people are a joke and people follow these idiots”… If you say they did not report it then so be it….
However, when President Obama passed an Executive Order in favor of the unions over small business, did you see that reported on MSNBC or CNN… No they did not cover it,,,, now who is the idiot. Screw small businesses in favor of the unions. And one step further, when President Bush sign the Executive Order allowing small businesses to work without a union contract, the DEMS and union fought him over this…. Check it out…….
From ABC, “ABC strongly opposes government-mandated project labor agreements (PLAs) on public construction projects.

Anti-competitive project labor agreements (PLAs) are special interest schemes that end open, fair and competitive bidding on public works projects. PLAs drive up the cost of construction by reducing competition and effectively excluding merit shop contractors and their skilled employees from building projects paid for by their own tax dollars.
Typical PLAs are pre-hire contracts that require projects be awarded only to contractors and subcontractors that agree to:
• recognize unions as the representatives of their employees on that job
• use the union hiring hall to obtain workers
• obtain apprentices exclusively from union apprenticeship programs
• pay into underfunded and mismanaged union benefit plans
• obey costly, restrictive and inefficient union work rules

In the end, government-mandated PLAs prevent taxpayers from getting the best possible product at the best possible price.
Federal Government-Mandated Project Labor Agreements: President Obama’s Executive Order 13502 Encourages PLAs on Federal Construction Projects Costing More Than $25 million

On February 6, 2009, President Barack Obama issued Executive Order 13502, which repeals Executive Order 13202 and encourages federal agencies to require PLAs on federal and federally funded construction projects in excess of $25 million. Executive Order 13202 had prohibited federal agencies and recipients of federal financial assistance from requiring wasteful and discriminatory union-only PLAs on federal and federally funded construction projects. Construction contracts subject to union-only PLAs are usually awarded to unionized contractors and their all-union workforces.
On March 13, 2010, the Federal Acquisition Regulation (FAR) Council released the final rule to implement President Obama’s Executive Order 13502. The release of this final rule represents the culmination of a process that began in July 2009 with the FAR Council’s release of a proposed rule to implement the content of Executive Order 13502 into federal procurement regulations.
Even before the release of the final rule to implement Executive Order 13502, the Obama Administration signaled its desire for federal agencies to begin mandating PLAs. The Office of Management and Budget (OMB) on July 10 issued a policy memorandum encouraging federal agencies to consider utilizing PLAs on a project-by-project basis and require PLAs in “appropriate circumstances.” This memorandum came in advance of the FAR Council’s proposed rule implementing Executive Order 13502.

Between 2001 and 2008, Executive Order 13202 ensured that at least $147.1 billion worth of federal construction projects was bid without discriminatory and wasteful government-mandated PLAs. The actual value of construction projects protected by Executive Order 13202 is exponentially larger, as the above figure does not include local construction spending that received federal funding or assistance protected by the executive order. Free and open competition saved American taxpayers an estimated 10 percent to 20 percent on federal construction spending and provided women, minorities and other qualified craft professionals the opportunity to work in their communities.

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Real American, please tell me how he ended the Iraq war, did he authorize a troop surge to help quell the insurgents, OH, thats right he voted against it, WOW ! HE VOTED NO!
He changed Health Care only to have it repealed because that change the majority of the American voters reject.
He changed Wallstreet so he could promote Unions and kill business.

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Isn’t Hannity that fella over at Fox that likes to take videos and cut-n-paste them to show what he wants them to show instead of what they actually showed prior to his handiwork. Good thing he was only presenting his fairly unbalanced opinion and not fact.

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Tell me this once NBC, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, NYT etc aren’t tied to the hip of the Dems

ok. they aren’t tied to the hip of the Dems. In fact those outlets are gleefully hoping for a turnover of power in the Congress; otherwise, ratings/readership for their mid-term election coverage would be pitiful.

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“Please read the proof directly from the AP article which I just posted twice in 2 posts in the last few minutes”

I have some bad news for you. Yellowcake isn’t a “weapon of mass destruction”

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A quarter of Americans are against the Obama healthcare legislation. That is truly sad. A full one quarter of the folks out there have truly been conned by the likes of folks at Fox, the Koch brothers, et al.

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There is absolutely NO difference between Fox News and MSNBC. NONE. Both are propaganda arms of the U.S. government, with Fox representing the right wing and MSNBC representing the left wing. The “commentators” on these networks are ENTERTAINERS. Nothing more.

If anyone out there actually thinks either one of these “news” outlets believe a word they tell you, then I have some beachfront property in Kansas to sell you. Keith Olbermann is a phony. So is Sean Hannity. So is Chris Matthews. So is Bill O’Reilly. They all read from a script, and the purpose of these scripts is to incite anger and division among us. It’s how they stay in business–by dividing the American people along left-right-blue-red lines.

The saddest part is that the Fox and MSNBC commentators probably all go out for beers after work and kick back and laugh at all the suckers who take them seriously.

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@ Real American (1:07)

Yeah, learn how to write first before you call out idiots! Yeah, Obama campaigned for a very different health care bill that was passed. The 2500 page bill was not even allowed 3 days to be reviewed before it was passed. No one knew what was in the damn bill… As Nancy Pelosi quoted! “We just have to pass the bill first to see what’s in it” What a bunch of BS. Obama also campaigned to be a non-biased President and work with both Parties. LOL!!!! PLEASE

Our wonderful great leader of the United States of America starts apologizing to other countries for our arrogant behavior. WTF!!! Then he lets Mexico’s President come on American soil and disagree with our laws and Constitution. And Obama backs him!! How weak of a leader is he???

From day one, on almost every issue, Obama goes against the American peoples views. From 70% disapproving the health care, to suing Arizona, to building the Mosque in New York. He is so far out of touch with mainstream America. You will see this in November! Every time I hear him open his mouth and speak it makes me sick!!! He loves to be in front of the camera and try to be “Hip and Cool” so the American people think he is cool. Yeah, he might look cool but he is brainwashing and slowly tearing America down and capitalism with it. It’s all about distribution of wealth!! America has NEVER been about that.

So keep drinking that Obama Kool-Aid Real American!!! Hope and change is coming in November.

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Doggone/GA,

What exactly is it that you don’t seem to understand? Yellowcake itself is not a weapon of mass destruction but it is used in the enrichment process to create a nuclear weapon. Good grief. Would you be comfortable if the Taliban or Hugo Chavez or Iran had yellowcake to enrich into a nuclear weapon or to sell to a 3rd world dictator intent on developing a nuke?

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“I have some bad news for you. Yellowcake isn’t a “weapon of mass destruction””

I have some bad news for you, Doggone. It can be when used to make a “dirty” bomb. And it can further be refined into the makings for an atomic weapon.

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“A quarter of Americans are against the Obama healthcare legislation. ”

As usual, Taxpayer, you are wrong again. Only a quarter of Americans want it REPEALED. More than 50% still are against it in principle and want certain provisions repealed, changed or unfunded.

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Doggone/GA

September 30th, 2010
1:33 pm

neither is gunpowder or a pipe by itself.

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@ Taxpayer

Wake up dude! You are in the minority on Obama! So keep telling your liberal lies and BS. It doesn’t work anymore. America sees what a joke of a leader we have and his Socialist policies.

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TaxPayer

September 30th, 2010
1:43 pm

I take it from your response that you feel the exact same way as long as that person’s views line up with yours.

Seems as if you don’t want any opinions other than those you champion being spoken?

Cause in case you haven’t noticed Jay gives his, wait for it gasp, opinion nearly everyday.

But somehow we never witness you complain about him giving his opinion.

Why?

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GENTLY?

Jay,

Neither the AJC, nor any newspaper I know, nor Rolling Stone nor any legacy media outlets runs such fawning puff pieces on Republican Presidents–nor do they gain any single kind word at any such liberal tabloids, but particularly NOT when the economy is in shambles, healthcare costs are skyrocketing, and monthly deficit numbers are what we used to see in a whole damn year! If a Republican were in office, the crappy economic situation we’re in would be a depression in your column. We all know that the question Helen Thomas asked George Bush when times were great—”Mr. President, there’s a lot of people suffering out there, what are you going to do about it?”—would be magnified orders of magnitude above what it was in 2007 were the President Republican. There would be no time to lolly-gag in the media, because the story would be desperate. If Bush were picking on say, MSNBC, you would be castigating him for abusing his office and picking on a little guy–which thankfully they are.

IN THE ARTIFICIAL WORLD YOU LIVE IN, THE STORY ISN’T THE OBJECTIVE NEWS AND NEVER WAS. WHAT YOU REPORT ON IS THE STORY YOU WANT TO TELL BASED ON YOUR E-X-T-R-E-M-E LIBERAL BIAS.

Fox News is biased? That’s the whole purpose of this piece isn’t it? Just a reminder that the most popular tv news source really is biased… don’t you know…. Sorry Jay, but the tone of your article is just haughty amusement at the time of Rome burning, and it’s disgusting.

Jay, you are sitting in the sades grandes bias sapentiae, and yet you seem to think that your fellow-travelers, Obama, Rolling Stone and the New York Times are amused observers of this wonderful American tradition. This election cycle is about not just Democrats; it is a rebuke to YOU, to Cynthia Tucker, to Paul Krugman, to Chris Matthews and MSNBC among others.

I look forward to a Republican gaining the Presidency again, so that you can revert to your dogged rhetorical diligence, because your adoring collaboration is nauseating.

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Doggone 1:33 – seriously? Strictly speaking, yes, it’s not a fully weaponized, fully enabled WMD. Nut is a guy who isn’t a threat to the ROW sitting around on a bunch of yellowcake?

Good grief, give some credit where due.

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Deep Throat

“Paul how would you rate Dan Rather ? I do know he’s retired but if you bash Fox, you want mind qualifying yourself.”

I bash Fox?

See what I mean about perceptions?

Dan Rather? Not unusual situation – a person with a great career who ended it on an unfortunate note.

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Hi DDR!!!

Still spoiling the little one?

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Which is more slanted…Fox News, or the AJC? Fox News, or MSNBC? LOL…

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Checking in rather late to this post, and I haven’t had time to read through the comments, so if I repeat I apologize.

With regards to President and the press, I would say that Obama has been rather tame in his condemnation of Fox News and their more than obvious distortions on many occasions. I am talking about their actual news, not their pundit shows which, unfortunately, only seem to serve as a numbing agent for actual thought.

With regard to his statement, I would ultimately agree that Fox News is detrimental to this nation until the majority people decide to seek alternative sources of information, think for themselves and stop trusting a corporate behemoth with an agenda, which is namely to enrich itself.

My perception is too many choose only a singular source of information, and refuse to investigate the veracity of that information. In the case of Fox News it seems many “conservatives” take Fox News as the truth, and are intellectually incurious to investigate the veracity.

I’ve no doubt the reason Fox News enjoys the ratings it does, is mainly due to the fact that it reinforces what the viewers want to hear. Their high ratings do not vindicate them as a reliable source of information, merely a popular one, because they are reinforcing what their viewer’s already think they “know.”

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Paul the fact is he was so bias he reorted an untrue story during a critical time of the presidential campaign because he and his News station wanted to sway the voters they were wateringat the mouth so much they did not verfy the facts.

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Taxpayer,

Still waiting on a SPECIFIC example of Hannity lying or cutting and pasting to make up his own version of truth. I think that’s Dan Rather’s job.

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30 Reasons Why Fox News is Not Legit

Read it and weep, wingnuts.

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An article for those who hate the finance industry. Or at least the investment banks.

http://noir.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601010&sid=ajB_V60ULVkk

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Deep Throat

Like I said, a great career that ended on an unfortunate note.

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JKL2

“What was that about no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq?”

Okay, I’ll bite. What weapons of mass destruction were in Iraq when we invaded?

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Debbie – “then preceeded to loose billions of dollars on two wars”

Um, so, war is now supposed to be a profit making venture? Got it.

“with no help from the other countries he’d dissed earlier ”

Ok, so because no one else had the brass to join us, due to their weak and scared policies and corruption, we are supposed to abandon our plan? Doesn’t work that way sweetie. If that were the case throughout American history, our country would be a far different place, and not for the better.

“well, I’d apologize too”

Shame on you. If you apologize to anyone, it should to be the American people. Ever heard of ‘keeping it in the family?’

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“Well, thomas, perhaps you wouldn’t mind asking Jay if he has to cut-n-paste documentation in order to make up his own version of the truth that fits with his opinion.”

TaxPayer, Jay does that almost every day. Most of us call it “cherry-picking”. You’d call it “journalism”.

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“Personally, the bit about Maria Callas gets me worried. But that’s not what caught the attention of those good folks at FoxNation.com. Here’s how they pitched it on their website.”

Jay, to a paranoid mind-set (and Fox News’s raison d’etre is to provide a certain American “paranoid style” with its daily sustenance), everything that is said is merely a cover, a layer that conceals the true meaning of a message beneath it. In short, everything is coded in ‘dog whistles’. In this case, the opera references and the references to Maria Callas, etc., are seen as mere window dressing, while the references to Jay-Z are seen as being the real “meat” of the statements. So to the paranoid mind-set which has a powerful need to see Barack Obama as the Other, the statements about European high culture are simply ignored, like water off a duck’s back, while the mind zeros in on the bits that confirm (in the manner of: “aha! THERE it is, I KNEW it!!”) what the underlying paranoid logic needs to see to confirm itself. Then, once it’s confirmed, the paranoid loop is completed and the process begins anew.

Such are the tentacles that grip a great many minds in America today, with help from the billion dollar enterprise that is Mr. Murdoch’s media empire.

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A diatribe on the electric car potential (or non-potential) as a rebuttal to Friedman.

http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2010/09/28/chitty-chitty-bang-bang-the-electric-car-industry-isnt-going-to-save-us/

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“Fox News Viewed as Most Ideological Network”

“The Fox News Channel is viewed by Americans in more ideological terms than other television news networks. And while the public is evenly divided in its view of hosts of cable news programs having strong political opinions, more Fox News viewers see this as a good thing than as a bad thing.”

http://people-press.org/report/559/

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JKL2,

What on earth? In 1998 Clinton was stating that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction but he is not called a liar by the media types?

Funny but I also remember specific quotes from John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, and other Dem leaders stating that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. I guess they, along with the 6 major intelligence svcs which all said Iraq had weapons of mass destruction are all liars if Bush is a liar.

I guess all those horric videos of gassed victims, mainly the Kurds in the 90s in Northern Iraq, are also lies. Must have been a secret republican video crew that snuck into Iraq in the 90s and made a Hollywood type movie faking the deaths of 20,000 Iraqi civilians.

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Paul,

Good……..

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mm@1:159

Media Matters? Seriously, that is your source? No left wing bias there.

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Doggone/GA,

So now you’re going to equate gunpowder with nuclear weapons material?

I’m not going to insult your intelligence by suggesting that you actually believe what you just wrote.

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Paul: Hi DDR!!! Still spoiling the little one?

Of course!! Since I don’t want children of my own, she’s the “daughter I’ll never have”; so to speak!!

NG: Um, so, war is now supposed to be a profit making venture? Got it.

Ask Haliburton and Cheney…………..

NG: Ok, so because no one else had the brass to join us, due to their weak and scared policies and corruption, we are supposed to abandon our plan? Doesn’t work that way sweetie. If that were the case throughout American history, our country would be a far different place, and not for the better.

Exactly what WAS the plan? I know they someone said “we’d be treated as liberators”; which we were the first 3 months, afterwards we were bombed, our people captured and tortured, and booed. Our troops were physically, mentally and emotionally tired from fighting two wars with no help and no “down time” between assignments. Some are still paying a heavy price for Bush’s arrogance. Did your family pay a price for these wars, or were they, like the Bush twins, too good to soil their hands?

NG: Shame on you. If you apologize to anyone, it should to be the American people. Ever heard of ‘keeping it in the family?’

Ever hear of “keeping it real”? If you saw the same some arrogant punk kid who spat on you while you were working at the diner on the side of the road in Arizona with a flat tire in 200 degree heat would you stop? I’m gonna say NO. So, if America wanted and definitely NEEDED help from other countrie, they’d better apologize. What’s so hard to understand about that?

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Personally, I hope President Obama decides not to run again. He didn’t create this mess. Let the dumbies who created it, fix it. Maybe then the white folks will be happy again.

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Paul- What weapons of mass destruction were in Iraq when we invaded?

They uncovered plenty of NBC’s. It just wasn’t in big stockpiles like we thought it would be. Most had been used, destroyed, burried, or shipped to Syria.

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mm @ 1:59

“Journalists should be honest, fair and courageous in gathering, reporting and interpreting information.” — Society of Professional Journalists

Hey moron! Imagine that. The Society of Professional Journalists, make a quote like that. How ironic! And you honestly think these “facts” are from a non-biased or motivated opinion?

If what Obama is doing to this country is SO GREAT, then why do people from his administration constantly keep leaving??? Because they want NO part of this destruction to America!

90% of the media is liberal and kisses Obamas a**. Bring some of your own ideas to the blog instead of posting a left wing link tearing Fox down. Please!! Tell me what Hope and Change has done for you!!

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Taxpayer #1 fool
Debbie Do right #2
Jewcowboy # 3

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John,

“90% of the media is liberal and kisses Obamas a**. ”

Please cite your source.

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“but hey, he had yellow cake”

And if I remember correctly, he’d had it for years and we knew he’d had it…for years.

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Um, this article is light on specifics (solutions), and sort of has a few things seemingly backwards. But there are also some fair points in here…

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704116004575522093202280452.html

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JKL2

“What weapons of mass destruction were in Iraq when we invaded?”

None.

[CIA's Final Report: No WMDs Found in Iraq]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7634313/

“They uncovered plenty of NBC’s. It just wasn’t in big stockpiles like we thought it would be. Most had been used, destroyed, burried, or shipped to Syria.”

Source?

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doggone- “Tommy did it too” is not a valid defense anyway.

ROFLMAO!!!! That’s the entire Democratic rationale for the obama economic policies. “Bush did a bail out. Bush did TARP.” Because you’re proud Obama is expanding the worst of Bush.

If you’re going to keep spouting Bush lied about Iraq, it’s only fair you include Clinton and all your other Demwit clowns now running congress were equally to blame.

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“Fool rating system” = a coward who hides behind monikers

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The Kaiser Poll identifies 25% of those surveyed as having a very unfavorable opinion of the healthcare reform legislation. As for me, it is at least a start. I’m in the camp of it does not go far enough. However, I think it is good to have, eventually, another 30 million people insured and I think it is good to not have to be concerned about being denied coverage due to pre-existing conditions and I think it is good to not have to worry about having insurance coverage denied or dropped as soon as you have a claim, etc. I just don’t see how the free market could address such basic issues given that they go against the very nature of the capitalist business model — profit, more profit and profit more regardless of the cost. So, someone had to step in and establish some basic rules for the insurance companies to play by and now we have at least a start. Of course, that’s just my opinion.

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I think Barnes is going to lose. Bad, bad, bad year to be a Democrat….

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704116004575522160145340470.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_MIDDLETopOpinion

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md,

“Should the highest officer of the law in CA turn his back on a crime which is obvious to all??”

Having no specific knowledge of CA laws, I would say it would depend on if it falls under their purview or not.

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Taxpayer #1 fool
Debbie Do right #2
Jewcowboy # 3

Oh Please! I blush at the obvious praise from the likes of you.

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“all your other Demwit clowns now running congress were equally to blame.”

I do, and I have. You can ask ANYONE who has been here since back then…*I* would have IMPEACHED every Congress member who voted Yes on that resolution. EVERY ONE.

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“Having no specific knowledge of CA laws, I would say it would depend on if it falls under their purview or not.”

jewcowboy, please. This is more a response worthy of TaxPayer in it’s dodging. You’re better than that. At the very least, Federal law was broken But I guess that under the administration of the least qualified person to enter any room, states are not allowed to enforce Federal laws, right?

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Even with the pullback Thursday, the Dow has risen 7.8 percent this month, putting it in line for its best September since 1939.

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jewcowboy,

Yes. I would take the train from Buckhead to the sandy springs station by Perimeter mall. Then you take a trolley over to the king and queen towers. The driver of the trolley always had it on that station. I never imagined there could be so much hate and disinformation on a radio station but there is. There is no alternate point of view on that station. Its all one sided pro Democrat, very hateful speech. Its never good to listen to one point of view whether it be Fox news or any of the liberal outlets like ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN. I like fox news but I also tune into the other stations to see what they are saying.

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The truth wins in the end – right now we are looking at $2.6 trillion in new debt created by Obama, 9.6% unemployment rate – Obama is President isn’t he. Did I mention the the half-arsed attempt to fight the war in Afghanistan with our young Americans needlessly dying.

This has nothing to do with Fox News. Barack needs to take a long hard look in the mirror and get to know Mr. Integrity as currently he has very little.

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2:28

DDR! Ouch!

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So… Obama deserves a Nobel prize prior to achieving anything. The Nobel award committee looks like a bunch of morons.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/09/30/one_nobel_year_later_its_a_hard_world_after_all_for_obama_107374.html

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OK sports fans. y’all are missing the point. it didn’t matter if Clinton “knew” there were WMDs or no WMDs in Iraq. it didn’t matter what the CIA knew and when it knew? we were going in, and Bush et al opted for the hard sell; so they offered this “faulty intelligence” to the media, to kind of wash their hands of it (the free press is SO objective, it would never air/publish myths, half-truths and outright fabrications). Think of Dick Cheney as Alec Baldwin in Glengarry Glenross. THIS is where the media comes in (Fox News and others). the media is not an information source, it’s a shameless cheerleader (I’ll do, say anything to be the most popular). they all aired the whole sales pitch. and they certainly planned to air as much shock and awe as was humanly possible. as I noted earlier, the invasion of Iraq was like some neo-con Super Bowl. who was right and who was wrong; or who supported (and why?), and who opposed it (and why?) was advertising and not “information”. does anyone think there was any possible scenario, which would have led Bush to NOT invade? on 9/12 he and Cheney were practically reverse-engineering 9/11, in order to lay it at Saddam’s feet. and back to message, the major news outlets don’t care because this stuff is good copy.

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Media bias?

“Then you take a trolley over to the king and queen towers. The driver of the trolley always had it on that station. ”

Gotcha…I know this obliquely related to your point, but that shuttle is not a MARTA shuttle, but a privately funded shuttle service provided by the property management of the Concourse, Cousins Properties. I wouldn’t want anyone to think that MARTA was responsible for you being force to listen to a particular radio station.

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Doggone – I’m glad you’re a constitutional scholar as well. You and Newt could be good friends if you just weren’t on opposite ends of the political spectrum.

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jm,

“hopefully the same happens here”

Please cite specific examples of socialism in the United States.

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jm,

“Please cite specific examples of socialism in the United States.”

Oh and please cite whether you are referring to socialism in the economic or political realm.

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“No wonder the cons think all of the other networks are liberal.”

All a matter of perspective – to those on the left, everything left seems normal and Fox is in right field. To those on the right, Fox is normal and everything else is in left field. For those in the middle, everything is either left or right with nothing in center field.

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SERIOUSLY???? people…name a news station that doesn’t have some sort of a view point…

find something else to discuss…something of importance for a change.

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“does anyone think there was any possible scenario, which would have led Bush to NOT invade?”

Actually yes – 111 democrats in the House and Senate voted in favor – had they all voted against, it would have altered the situation.

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Debbie you are an ignoramus “I’ve never heard Limbaugh say anything positive about Obama, the Dems, or anyone black for that matter. And?”

The man who married Limbaugh and his wife is black, one of his best friends – Hutch is black, his call screener is black. Yeah that Limbaugh won’t do anything for black people.

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JKL2 2:56

JKL2: “They uncovered plenty of NBC’s. It just wasn’t in big stockpiles like we thought it would be. Most had been used, destroyed, burried, or shipped to Syria.”

Paul: “Source?”

JKL2: “Visual.”

Do I understand correctly that you claim you saw WMDs in Iraq after the invasion?

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John- This is the same publication that got killed his Generals career.

Doesn’t this remind you of the way muslims like to build mosques on the grounds of their vanquished enemies? (Not even getting into the meaning of building the ground zero mosque)

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Debbiedoright,

Limbaugh’s sidekick on the show Mr. Snerdley, is a black man. Limbaugh regularly has black conservative columnist Walter Williams do his show for him while he’s gone. Limbaugh loves to quote and read excerpts from Thomas Sowell, a noted black conservative and economist from Stanford. To say “he has never said anything positive about anyone black for that matter” is ludicrous. You simply don’t know what you’re talking about. Limbaugh’s issue is not with blacks- its with liberalism.

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Debbie – “Prove it.”

Google is working just fine right now, take a look on your own b/c I don’t have that kind of time. I listen to Rush often and know your statement to be factually incorrect. If he spewed hate, and in your case, racism all day everyday, I would not listen to him.

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Stands for De – “Excrement in Broadcasting ”

Nice. Mature. Thanks for showing your true colors.

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Nice. Mature.

fitting.

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For some reason you can’t link to Rush and Kathryn’s wedding photos, but you can get to them from here.

Among the pictures you can find the Reverend that married them as well as the producer of his radio show.

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jm,

“obviously, I’m keeping things brief and simple here because I’m multi-tasking (a bad habit)”

I have the same bad habit

“Social Security and Medicare are “socialist” programs. ”

Valid point… and thank you for making the distinction.

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Well, I’ll be ………………….

Looks like Kim Jong Il’s youngest son and heir apparent Kim Jong Un was recently promoted from “comrade” to Four Star General.

Kind of reminds me of “private” to Commander in Chief.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20100930/D9II2RNG0.html

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debbie- I’ve never heard Limbaugh say anything positive about Obama, the Dems, or anyone black for that matter.

It would help if you ever actually listened to the show, and not just read your opinion of the show from the huffington post.

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Media bias?

September 30th, 2010
3:05 pm
Debbiedoright,

Limbaugh’s sidekick on the show Mr. Snerdley, is a black man. Limbaugh regularly has black conservative columnist Walter Williams do his show for him while he’s gone. Limbaugh loves to quote and read excerpts from Thomas Sowell, a noted black conservative and economist from Stanford. To say “he has never said anything positive about anyone black for that matter” is ludicrous. You simply don’t know what you’re talking about. Limbaugh’s issue is not with blacks-

If you kowtow to what Limbaugh says and you’re black, he has no issue with you; if you can counter his opinion with FACTS..and it’s contrary to his viewpoint, Limbaugh will denigrate you like no other! (from personal example!)

Bet you Limbaugh didn’t read THIS from Thomas Sowell:

Main article: Black Rednecks and White Liberals
According to Sowell, in his 2005 Black Rednecks and White Liberals, what many see as pathologies of contemporary black culture actually derive from a dysfunctional historical white-southern “cracker” culture.

“What the [white] rednecks or crackers brought with them across the ocean was a whole constellation of attitudes, values, and behavior patterns that might have made sense in the world in which they had lived for centuries, but which would prove to be counterproductive in the world to which they were going — and counterproductive to the blacks who would live in their midst for centuries before emerging into freedom and migrating to the great urban centers of the United States, taking with them similar values.

The cultural values and social patterns prevalent among Southern whites included an aversion to work, proneness to violence, neglect of education, sexual promiscuity, improvidence, drunkenness, lack of entrepreneurship, reckless searches for excitement, a lively music and dance, and a style of religious oratory marked by strident rhetoric, unbridled emotions, and flamboyant imagery. This oratorical style carried over into the political oratory of the region in both the Jim Crow era and the civil rights era, and has continued on into our own times among black politicians, preachers, and activists. Touchy pride, vanity, and boastful self-dramatization were also part of this redneck culture among people from regions of Britain where the civilization was the least developed.”

Several scholars support Sowell’s observations. Grady McWhiney’s Cracker Culture (1988) is a thorough historical study of the values and behavioral patterns of white Southerners, and is backed by many other scholarly studies which have turned up very similar patterns even when they differed in some ways as to the causes. Scholar Hackett Fischer’s Albions Seed,(1989) for example, eschews the Celtic theory advanced by McWhiney, but shows many of the same cultural patterns for the whites, both in Britain and the American South.

What is different about the current era, Sowell claims, is that better educated, more productive whites are no longer as willing to challenge or condemn the counterproductive behaviors deriving from the holdovers of white cracker culture among blacks. This stands in sharp contrast to the white northern educators that went to educate ex-slaves in the post-Civil War South, who insisted on strong discipline and work, and helped lay the foundations for black education.”

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JKL2

September 30th, 2010
3:17 pm

“It would help if you ever actually listened to the show, and not just read your opinion of the show from the huffington post.”

Does it count if you called into the Limbaugh show to counter his monotribe with factual information, then you get denigrated and cut off?? (Personal EXPERIENCE!!!)

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DebbieDoRight is a brain washed idiot.

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Historian

“DebbieDoRight is a brain washed idiot.”

Game Over.

DebbieDoRight Wins!!!!!!!!

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Quote from Limbaugh “Take that bone out of your nose and call me back”. Said to a black caller who disagreed with him.

Oh yeah, he surely does like them thar black folks………

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“Actually I had to listen to the black radio station on the Marta trolley on my way to and from work. I tried to do the right thing by leaving my car at home but I just couldn’t bear the racism and hate emanating from that 103 station. It was horrible.”

Really? On the Marta “trolley”, did you now? Was it over the LOUDSPEAKERS which are only used for MARTA announcements of the next stop? How did you happen to “hear” it since you have to use ear buds on a Marta TRAIN or BUS, (that’s what we call them in Atlanta, not the “Trolley”).

Sheesh, put a little effort the next time you fabricate something out of whole cloth, wouldja?

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Doggone/GA @ 3.20,

Did he win enough in his lawsuit against the Naked Cow Girl to finance his campaign?

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/07/21/2010-07-21_naked_cowboy_sues_naked_cowgirl_underwearclad_times_square_performer_says_she_st.html

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DebbieDoRight

September 30th, 2010
2:46 pm
It is called selective hearing.

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JKL2,

“Clinton’s decimation of our intelligence agencies, the military, and his innaction towards aggression against the US killed many more people than any of President Bush’s actions.”

But that is not exactly what you were saying before, it is? You implied he lied in advance of Operation Desert Fox. Examination of the events by UNSCOM leading up to the Clinton’s statement does not support that implication.

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Mr. President should have know better than to mention Lil Wayne, who’s latest CD “I am not Human” is being released from prison where he is serving on a weapons possession charge. Did anyone clue him in?

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How many of the so called bias news station have reported that the democrats have refused to vote for tax cuts until after the Nov, elections, because they know they stand no chance of being re-elected because they are out of touch with their voters.

Great! Nothing needs to be done for the tax cuts to expire. After the election, no one will have any reason to assume a pose any more. If Republicans win, Democrats will have no reason to vote for extending the tax cuts. If the Democrats hang on, they will have no reason to accede to the Republicans’ demands to continue the tax cuts for the richest 5% of Americans. Maybe we can start putting a dent in that horrendous deficit.

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HDB,

“If that were the case, why are so many white people AROUND him??”

Never mind half of himself.

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“What specifically did Bush lie about?”

Media Bias, for your edification, I really don’t have a problem listing the many lies he told.

But before I do, let me ask you a question. Are you seriously contending that he told none?

Do you really think he was some sort of fabled George Washington?

My gawd, he’s a politician. And a Republican. Notwithstanding that he was an inveterate liar, it goes with the territory…

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I did not hear Obama complain about CNN and the others helping him get elected. They were 24/7 for Obama and 24/7 against Palin. The sad part she is brighter than Biden. Of course Palin was not running for president but you could not tell that from the “lame stream media”!

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If that were the case, why are so many white people AROUND him?? (..and I’m NOT talking about the Secret Service either!)

If there continue to be people like Scout in the Secret Service, Obama would be wise to surround himself with as many non-Secret Service people as possible. I can’t believe they gave a maniac like that a gun and access to the President.

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Abrazos,

If you will read the other posts such as jewcowboy’s post at 2:46 you will see that we are both talking about the shuttle that runs between the perimeter mall station and the concourse office towers. Jewcowboy pointed out that the shuttle is actually privately run even though its at the marta station. My terminology should have been to call it a shuttle as opposed to a trolley but big freaking deal.

Perhaps you should read a little more before accusing someone of outright fabricating stuff.

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“After the election, no one will have any reason to assume a pose any more. If Republicans win, Democrats will have no reason to vote for extending the tax cuts. If the Democrats hang on, they will have no reason to accede to the Republicans’ demands to continue the tax cuts for the richest 5% of Americans. Maybe we can start putting a dent in that horrendous deficit.”

That’s pretty much my take on it too.

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Just strikes me, Jay, that while you and your progressive colleagues in the press excoriated President Bush, I don’t recall him going on Fox and whining about the treatment. Can’t you and Tucker convince Obama to show more class??

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Paul: Do I understand correctly that you claim you saw WMDs in Iraq after the invasion?

He had a dream about them.

JKL2 – I’ve listened to Rush on occassion. While driving cross country and trying to stay awake; I usually tune into talk radio and listen to the likes of Limbaugh, Dr. Laura et al. It stops me from falling asleep behind the wheel. You can’t fall asleep if you’re too busy trying not to throw up……

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TOP RACIST RUSH LIMBAUGH QUOTES

“Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?”

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I’m shocked! Shocked! That FOX is losing viewers. It’s amazing how many of my conservation friends realize what a joke it is. It’s simply an example of the boy calling wolf too many times.

I don’t watch MSNBC or FOX very often. The slant of both of them turns me off.

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Jay, I know that you would like Fox to be Obamas lap Monkey like all the liberal stations but guess what! it ain’t gonna happen.

Why do you always go back 200 years in time? is that where you are living? what calendar are you using? This is 2010 not 1805 our forefathers would be rolling over in their graves if they saw one of their slaves as President.

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Yeah…too bad he doesn’t have a ranch with brush that needs clearing….that would take precedent over an American city drowning…

You lie! Bush didn’t go clear brush, he delivered a birthday cake to John McCain. Remember?

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Wiile blind: Thats how it is when your forefather stole and exploited a group for 200 years, denied them education ,stole there land, made them build this country for free.

Would let them vote for 200 years, rape their women, tell me when to stop.
So when we hear tea party people saying take back their country like their forefather, who forefather, not those raicst bigots.

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Good column, Jay, and not an easy one to have written given your position. Tip of the chapeau…

Every time I hear someone taking off on the press of today, all I can do is shake my head…for all its outrage, it’s pretty tame compared to the tradition in the great land of freedom of the press.

President Obama, in my opinion, has been relatively restrained and no doubt it’s his elitism showing through. I wish he would got to a mud roll with the press…it’d show us some of what he’s made of not what his handlers want us to think he is and what we want him to be.

historian–
DDR and I will got to a tussle when it comes to interpretation of history, but when it comes to her knowledge of history, she’s probably the most widely read and best informed people around today and not just on this blog. And when I found out her age, I was blown out of the water!

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Did President Obama bring up MSNBC (must have bad knees due to all the genuflecting) or CNN (same), or even the three major news networks as being liberal? (Of course, they are “neutral”…hee hee ha ha).

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Amvet,

Good one there about the composite pics resemebling Jesse. But I think that Rush is more making fun of Jesse than anything else because jesse is nothing more than a professional shakedown artist. The fact that people follow this pastor who commits adultury and impregnates a coworker while he’s in his 50s his laughable.

While we’re at it is it also racist to suggest that black men commit more crime than anyone else? Or is it simply a statement of fact that people don’t want to hear? An ugly truth that people just don’t like so rather than face the truth they simply call it racist?

Didn’t you know sir that truth is the new hate speech?

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TOP RACIST RUSH LIMBAUGH QUOTES (AS SUPPORTED BY NICE GUY).

“The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies.”

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williebkind
September 30th, 2010
3:42 pm

Who had to DIE to ensure that I got the same rights as white men? BLACK MEN AND WOMEN!! Remember: Crispus Attucks, the first person to DIE in the Revolutionary War…was black!!

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