Obama v. Fox News, a long American tradition

In an interview with Rolling Stone, President Obama was asked a question about the impact and role of Fox News. He responded as follows:

“Look, as president, I swore to uphold the Constitution, and part of that Constitution is a free press. We’ve got a tradition in this country of a press that oftentimes is opinionated. The golden age of an objective press was a pretty narrow span of time in our history. Before that, you had folks like Hearst who used their newspapers very intentionally to promote their viewpoints. I think Fox is part of that tradition — it is part of the tradition that has a very clear, undeniable point of view. It’s a point of view that I disagree with. It’s a point of view that I think is ultimately destructive for the long-term growth of a country that has a vibrant middle class and is competitive in the world. But as an economic enterprise, it’s been wildly successful. And I suspect that if you ask Mr. Murdoch what his number-one concern is, it’s that Fox is very successful.”

Personally, I think that statement is A.) quite accurate; and B.) a natural, inevitable part of the give and take of politics. When media outlets run stories that are critical of a politician, the politician responds, sometimes with criticism of his or her own. Here in Georgia, politicians have campaigned against “those lying Atlanta newspapers” for generations, and they continue to do so to this very day. It comes with the territory.

And yeah, Obama’s the president, which means that his words carry a lot of weight. But Rupert Murdoch and Fox News are big boys too — somehow I think they can handle it. If you can’t withstand a little pushback from politicians, you better go find another line of work, because you’re too much of a wimp for this one.

However, some of my media colleagues disagree with me. For example, David Zurawik, a TV critic for the Baltimore Sun, claims to see Obama’s running feud with Fox as some sort of threat to “a press independent from the reaches and power of any of the branches of government” and further suggests that the president doesn’t respect the role of a free press.

I wonder what Zurawik and others would make of Thomas Jefferson, who wrote eloquently and often about the importance of a free press, calling it our single most important bulwark in defense of liberty. But in 1805, in his second Inaugural Address, Jefferson also complained bitterly that in order to destroy his administration, “the artillery of the press has been leveled against us, charged with whatsoever its licentiousness could devise or dare.” Again, that was in his inaugural address, not in some interview with Rolling Stone. And it was just one of many examples of Jefferson complaining about press abuses, which “have been carried to a length never before known or borne by any civilized nation.”

In his Rolling Stone comments, Obama mentioned another prime example in William Randolph Hearst, who in the first half of the 20th century owned a powerful chain of newspapers and used them to conduct a bitter assault on Franklin Roosevelt. For example, in one 1936 editorial that he wrote himself and published on the front page of every newspaper he owned, Hearst charged that FDR was doing the handiwork of the Communists in Moscow and had “adopted the platform of the Karl Marx Socialists in almost every word and letter.”

The FDR White House responded to what it called “a certain notorious newspaper owner,” releasing a statement that in some ways sounds eerily modern.

“Such articles are conceived in malice and born of political spite,” the statement read. “The American people will not permit their attention to be diverted from real issues to fake issues which no patriotic, honorable decent citizen would purposely inject into American affairs.”

Roosevelt himself, in an appearance at the annual Gridiron Club dinner in Washington, took playful note of the press campaign against him. Some character by the name of Franklin Roosevelt, a true villain, kept showing up in all his newspapers, FDR said. This guy Roosevelt, he said, “combined the worst features of Ivan the Terrible, Machiavelli, Judas Iscariot, Henry VIII … and Jesse James. He was engaged in a plot to wreck the American Constitution, to poison the Supreme Court, to demolish capitalism, to wreck old-age security…. in short, to blot from the face of the Earth the United States as we have known it.”

That too sounds familiar.

Obama, in other words, is doing somewhat gently what Jefferson, FDR and others had done aggressively, and in fact what politicians everywhere do. He has every right to point out that Fox has “a very clear, undeniable point of view,” because it’s the truth and everyone knows it. That point of view shows up in myriad ways, some large, some small. And the small ways are often the most telling.

In that same Rolling Stone interview, for example, Obama was asked about his musical tastes these days. He responded:

“My iPod now has about 2,000 songs, and it is a source of great pleasure to me. I am probably still more heavily weighted toward the music of my childhood than I am the new stuff. There’s still a lot of Stevie Wonder, a lot of Bob Dylan, a lot of Rolling Stones, a lot of R&B, a lot of Miles Davis and John Coltrane. Those are the old standards.

A lot of classical music. I’m not a big opera buff in terms of going to opera, but there are days where Maria Callas is exactly what I need.

Thanks to Reggie [Love, the president's personal aide], my rap palate has greatly improved. Jay-Z used to be sort of what predominated, but now I’ve got a little Nas and a little Lil Wayne and some other stuff, but I would not claim to be an expert. Malia and Sasha are now getting old enough to where they start hipping me to things. Music is still a great source of joy and occasional solace in the midst of what can be some difficult days.”

Personally, the bit about Maria Callas gets me worried. But that’s not what caught the attention of those good folks at FoxNation.com. Here’s how they pitched it on their website:

foxrap

Hearst would be so proud.

839 comments Add your comment

Jack jones

September 30th, 2010
10:00 am

pn

September 30th, 2010
10:06 am

Fox News is owned by a foreigner who wants to dominate and control U.S. politics. Wake up Fox News viewers…

Nice Guy

September 30th, 2010
10:06 am

“But Rupert Murdoch and Fox News are big boys too — somehow I think they can handle it.”

Handle it? Hardly, Jay, they downright love it.

md

September 30th, 2010
10:07 am

“The golden age of an objective press was a pretty narrow span of time in our history.”

Pretty much sums it up.

larry

September 30th, 2010
10:08 am

Maybe Mr. Murdoch is Mr.Hearst reincarnated.

Roosevelt himself, in an appearance at the annual Gridiron Club dinner in Washington, took playful note of the press campaign against him. Some character by the name of Franklin Roosevelt, a true villain, kept showing up in all his newspapers, FDR said. This guy Roosevelt, he said, “combined the worst features of Ivan the Terrible, Machiavelli, Judas Iscariot, Henry VIII … and Jesse James. He was engaged in a plot to wreck the American Constitution, to poison the Supreme Court, to demolish capitalism, to wreck old-age security…. in short, to blot from the face of the Earth the United States as we have known it.”

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

AmVet

September 30th, 2010
10:09 am

The fair and balanced gang loathe the man. It is what their viewers want them to do and they know it. Ratings first; responsibility, accuracy and integrity don’t get advertising dollars..

Midori

September 30th, 2010
10:10 am

I detest Lil Wayne……

Fox News is a joke.

And its viewers are even bigger jokes.

Call it like it is

September 30th, 2010
10:10 am

So what, nothing new here. Presidents have been fighting the press from day one. Hell Lincoln would put editors in jail and shackles if they didnt support him and his cause for the Civil War. Obama has plenty of other news sources that love everything he does and say, sorry you can’t have them all there chief.

All he does is increase the viewership of FOX everytime he talks about them. He is coming into their gun fight with a knife.

ty webb

September 30th, 2010
10:11 am

“He has every right to point out that Fox has “a very clear, undeniable point of view,” because it’s the truth and everyone knows it.”

In case you didn’t know, jay asking for an amen from his sheep…um I mean flock.

Doggone/GA

September 30th, 2010
10:11 am

“Ratings first; responsibility, accuracy and integrity don’t get advertising dollars..”

And slogans aren’t even on the page.

md

September 30th, 2010
10:11 am

Although Obama himself admits that the objective press era was pretty narrow, it won’t stop the side choosers on here from proclaiming their side as the “balanced” one.

stands for decibels

September 30th, 2010
10:11 am

Here’s how they pitched it on their website:

good. God.

I’m so beyond asking “have they no shame” because we all know the answer.

Midori

September 30th, 2010
10:12 am

right on cue there, Call it like it is.

It was called, all right.

ty webb

September 30th, 2010
10:12 am

meant “Jay’s asking”. sorry

left wing (the original)

September 30th, 2010
10:12 am

If President Obama were to say he liked BLT, the tea party would organize a boycott on bacon.

Jay Apparently Theorore Roosevelt had a vendetta against Joseph Pulitzer, because Joe used his editorial page to evicerate Teddy. Joe lived on his yacht, and Roosevelt (while president) had an order to have Pulitzer arrested for slander.

And that’s the thing about politics; it never changes.

larry

September 30th, 2010
10:12 am

Maybe the President shouldn’t have stated this however. Fox is like a big bully. They keep picking on you and picking on you . The more you respond back, the worse it gets.

Bubba

September 30th, 2010
10:12 am

True enough, it’s been done before. Of course, Jefferson and other politicians of his day used to write anonymous letters to newspapers slandering their opponents. We probably wouldn’t find that acceptable today, would we?

md

September 30th, 2010
10:13 am

See………

Nice Guy

September 30th, 2010
10:13 am

Listen, for BHO to continue to cry about Fow News is very, very weak. He forgets that people can choose to listen to whomever they want. I sure don’t hear him complaing about Jay Bookman consistenly writing left leaning pieces, or Keith Olberman railing against all things Repub.

Seriously, Mr. President, enough with the crying and pity party.

Midori

September 30th, 2010
10:14 am

Nice Guy – it appears you are the one doing all the crying……

Nice Guy

September 30th, 2010
10:15 am

Midori -

Things are not always as they appear, now are they.

Soothsayer

September 30th, 2010
10:18 am

John K

September 30th, 2010
10:18 am

Hey, this is the network of the “terrorist fist bump” and the nuclear summit logo looking a little bit like the Muslim Crescent (in their delusional eyes only).

jm

September 30th, 2010
10:19 am

A: “President of the US Loves Gangsta Rap” – I think that’s awesome and funny – happily not 50 cent.

B: Glad he’s a jazz fan.

C: Someone want to enlighten me (as completely uneducated on opera) who Maria Callas is?

D: He’s comments seem fine to me. He can comment all he wants (right to free speech of course), the government just needs to keep its legal hands off FOX (and the other networks).

Don’t see the controversy here….. (except in FOX -world)

jm

September 30th, 2010
10:22 am

sfd – by the way, read a good chunk of the village voice article, skimmed much of it. it was funny to read at least. I got a good laugh out of the hyperbole…

Jack jones

September 30th, 2010
10:22 am

Gotta Love FOX!! They are the most anti Prez/Dem/Minorities business I’ve ever seen. Whats funny is that I rarely see any negative stories about Republicans. All the wanna be Republican Prez hopefuls are all paid by fox. News Corp (FOX) $1 Million donation made to the Republicans shows exactly whats going on. One of the funniest things i saw on the news commentators was when they were comparing the Nuclear Security Summit’s logo to the crescent moon of Muslim countries!!
LOL…and to them, thats called JOURNALISM

Doggone/GA

September 30th, 2010
10:23 am

“C: Someone want to enlighten me (as completely uneducated on opera) who Maria Callas is?”

Google was still working 30 seconds ago.

JohnnyReb

September 30th, 2010
10:23 am

It’s amazing how Jay and his Progressive followers who post here don’t focus on the real stories that FOX reports because most of the legacy media is in the tank for Obama. Here’s an example:

(Edited from Heritage) Just after midnight this morning, Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) gaveled the House out of session, assuring that Congress will adjourn until after the November elections without taking any action to stop the Obama tax hikes (Bush tax reductions). Earlier in the day, 39 Democrats defied Speaker Pelosi and voted with the minority to keep the House in session until they could vote on the impending tax hikes. Pelosi, who rarely votes on day-to-day legislation, was forced to cast the tie breaking vote (210-209) on the adjournment resolution.

Nancy get her way and taxes go up on everyone, unless the lame duck session makes a retroactive change. No messy hearings on Rangel and Waters to embarrass the Dems. No budget, instead a continuing resolution. In short, more dirty politics by the Left. Yet, the Left choses to focus on bad old FOX.

Since you are focusing on FOX, it would do all who care good if they would look into the groups participating in the One Nation gathering. It includes many openly Communist and Socialist organizations. Obama has endorsed it, but you will tell me he is not a Socialist. Right, just like Nixon was not a crook.

stands for decibels

September 30th, 2010
10:25 am

this is the network of the “terrorist fist bump” and the nuclear summit logo looking a little bit like the Muslim Crescent

And, lest we forget, the Michelle Obama “Whitey” Video.

Midori

September 30th, 2010
10:25 am

RIP Tony Curtis

What’s wrong, Johnny – still itching to give more of our money to those who don’t need it?

Midori

September 30th, 2010
10:26 am

Nice Guy – there is absolutely no truth in advertising.

jm

September 30th, 2010
10:26 am

Doggone – glad to know you’re as much up to speed on MC as I am.

Joe The Plumber Too

September 30th, 2010
10:27 am

Re: Nice Guy – it appears you are the one doing all the crying…… Can’t wait to hear the wailing come November from midori, grandma, kamshak and all the rest. That will be music to my ears. 35 more days of piglosi and her fellow dumpocraps.

Doggone/GA

September 30th, 2010
10:28 am

“glad to know you’re as much up to speed on MC as I am.”

Oh no, I’m way ahead of you. I’ve known who she is for 30 years. But I’m not a fan. So if you want INFORMATION about her, try using your fingers and look her up.

stands for decibels

September 30th, 2010
10:28 am

read a good chunk of the village voice article, skimmed much of it. it was funny to read at least.

glad to see you took it in the spirit my linkee was intended.

later, all.

Puke Time

September 30th, 2010
10:28 am

Hope and Change, Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, Fox News, Kenyan Muslim, Tea Party… Bwahahhahahahahahaaha!!!!!!!!

Each and every goober will soon enough have something more serious to deal with while TPTB sails on laughing at their false issues. That something more serious is the peanut butter sandwich they will soon be eating for sure. Hint: it is not peanut butter! Bwahahahaha!!!

stands for decibels

September 30th, 2010
10:28 am

“glad to know you’re as much up to speed on MC as I am.”

I saw this and thought: “Hammer time?”

really gone now…

Peadawg

September 30th, 2010
10:29 am

“President of the US Loves Gangsta Rap”

Those rappers are such great roll models to our kids!!!!! :roll:

Midori

September 30th, 2010
10:30 am

The cable news ratings for the third quarter of 2010 were released today, and Fox News is showing signs of decline as their viewership has decreased by 21%, and their top shows all posted double digit losses, while MSNBC’s shows, grew and the network attracted more younger viewers.

Either people are waking up, or Fox has completely jumped the shark.

Either way, it’s all good.

JohnnyReb

September 30th, 2010
10:30 am

Midori@10:25 – Jay’s piece is right about one thing. Obama does have a lot in common with Roosevelt. Both were very destrcutive for our nation. Roosevelt prolonged the depression, just a Obama is prolonging the recession. And yes, if more of my money is to be forced from me to route to others, I prefer choosing who gets it.

Bubba Bob

September 30th, 2010
10:31 am

I don’t watch any TV news but my question is this….for liberals, what station is truly fair and balanced?

I hear you railing against Fox but never hear you calling out CNN or MSNBC for their slanted views. Why is that?

Jack jones

September 30th, 2010
10:32 am

“And, lest we forget, the Michelle Obama “Whitey” Video.”

Ahhhhh yes, that too! LOL

Pennsylvanian

September 30th, 2010
10:33 am

I’m shocked, SHOCKED I say, that Jay did not write about Nancy Pelosi quoting John Boehner out of context and showing edited video to discredit Repubs.

Doggone/GA

September 30th, 2010
10:34 am

“what station is truly fair and balanced?”

That isn’t the point. The point is an obviously biased network using that slogan to lie to their viewers. They can be as biased as they like, just tell the TRUTH about that bias.

jm

September 30th, 2010
10:34 am

Doggone – you’re a gentleman (or lady) and scholar. fancy you….

Gotta love liberals…

Puke Time

September 30th, 2010
10:34 am

Someone criticized Johnny Depp here the other day for being a traitor. His treason: in an interview from their French home, he said “Thank God we escaped from the US”. Call me a traitor too, as i am extremely grateful to have escaped from the A**hole South and the US..

Now, eat that sandwich, and as billionaire Charlie Munger says, “Suck it up Goobers! Suck it up!”

Schadenfreude is WONDERFUL!!! And it looks like i will be enjoying it for years!!!

Nice Guy

September 30th, 2010
10:35 am

Midori – “Either people are waking up, or Fox has completely jumped the shark”

Riiightt, because the President and his Admin have nothing to do with this. Exactly what Obama is trying to do, exactly.

md

September 30th, 2010
10:36 am

This subject also shows the true essence of the SC ruling on corporations. Prior to the ruling, these media corp barons were the ONLY corps with a voice – protected by the first amendment. Logic dictates that the court had 2 choices – go against the 1st or eliminate discrimination against all the other corps.

I don’t see how they could have ruled any other way.

ty webb

September 30th, 2010
10:36 am

Doggone,
yeah…and what’s with pepsi saying they’re the “choice of a new generation”… the nerve.

Gator Joe

September 30th, 2010
10:37 am

Jay,
It’s one thing when a responsible, fact-based media holds politicians accountable, those we don’t like, and especially the ones we like and support, but yet another when a network, inextricably connected with a political group (Republicans) constantly attacks the President and other Democrats with propaganda, lies, and falsehoods. While they [Fox] have every right to do so, their demise is guaranteed when their viewers (especially the middle and lower economic classes), discover to their detriment , that Fox and the Republicans could care less about them.

Jimmy62

September 30th, 2010
10:38 am

Obama is right except for two things: He neglects to mention that CNN and others are pushing their own viewpoint, it just happens to more closely match his own, and also the idea that Fox is pushing ideas that are bad for the long term future of the country is ludicrous. Fox didn’t push for us to throw away billions on Cash for Clunkers, or to bail out failed companies, or push for a government takeover of the auto industry or create an atmosphere where failure is rewarded and success is punished. That would be the left wing that pushed for those things that are very damaging to the country long term.

Del

September 30th, 2010
10:38 am

“If you can’t stand a little push back from politicians, you better go find another line of work, because you’re too much of a wimp for this one.” Interesting comment because it also works in reverse. Obama, the Democrats and their supporters in the left wing news media have been whining ad nauseam about their perceived notion that Fox News is biased against them. I can remember GWB taking flack unmercifully from the MSM and the left in this country and never saying a word against his news media antagonists. I guess by Jay’s criteria Obama must be a wimp.

ty webb

September 30th, 2010
10:38 am

and is Geico really “so easy a caveman could do it”?

md

September 30th, 2010
10:38 am

“I hear you railing against Fox but never hear you calling out CNN or MSNBC for their slanted views. Why is that?”

Because those are on their “side”. A divided nation requires 2 teams……….

RW-(the original)

September 30th, 2010
10:39 am

“The golden age of an objective press was a pretty narrow span of time in our history.”

Did he ever specify what he thought that “Golden Age” was?

And about Fox Nation. The story doesn’t appear anywhere on their website and the cache copy from when the story was briefly published only has a Nas and a Lil Wayne video

thomas

September 30th, 2010
10:39 am

Is our President speaking about the opinion shows or just the hard news portion, which is only from 5am til 4pm?

As i have seen many defend Jay and his liberally slanted view on things as a non-issue because he is an opinion piece.

Jimmy62

September 30th, 2010
10:40 am

Getting tired of all the implications that the south is so racist. Ever lived in both the south and the north? There is far less integration, and far more racism in the north, it’s just hidden since there’s so much less interaction between the races. I’ve heard far worse racist rants in Brooklyn accents than I’ve ever heard from someone in the south.

Nice Guy

September 30th, 2010
10:41 am

Audience Poll time:

All you on here who are dancing around because, once again, Jay has fed you a great dinner with a tasty desert…please be so kind as to give me recent examples of Fox News inaccuracies (and don’t say Shirley Sherrod).

Road Scholar

September 30th, 2010
10:41 am

Bubba Bob: Try PBS, who regularly has both conservative and liberal experts in a discussion of the issues at hand. I doubt many will view it though since there are no insults, the discussion is not 30 second sound bites, and many times they come to agreement on most of the issues within a bigger issue. They actually tell us how we got there on a subject, and possible alternatives for the solution. I bet I’ve already bored most of you on this.
Also remember their advertising by coporate America is minimal.

jm

September 30th, 2010
10:42 am

Del – there’s some truth to your point at 10:38, and I think people have grown a perception that he’s a wimp (although I don’t think Obama’s a wimp, I don’t think his spine is made of steel either). A certain component of America seems to want John Wayne available for President in 2012. Not sure who that’d be nowadays….

thomas

September 30th, 2010
10:42 am

Gator Joe

September 30th, 2010
10:37 am

You do know that NewsCorp (Fox news) has given nearly as much money to democratic candidates as it has republican….. in some cases giving more to the democrat.

But feel free to continue to spout lies of them being in connection with republicans and not presenting opinions from a conservative view point.

Hillbilly Deluxe

September 30th, 2010
10:43 am

Go back to the early part of the 19th century and you’ll find that “slanted” news, of today, is tame in comparison. It’s much ado about nothing. All anybody has to do is change the channel. (I hardly ever watch any of them).

Nice Guy

September 30th, 2010
10:44 am

Gator – “their demise is guaranteed when their viewers (especially the middle and lower economic classes), discover to their detriment , that Fox and the Republicans could care less about them.”

Good stuff man, well thought out. But tell me, why are right leaning shows (radio/tv) wildly more popular than left leaning shows, and have been for years now (not just an Obama Admin thing)?

thomas

September 30th, 2010
10:44 am

Jimmy62

September 30th, 2010
10:40 am

That does not fit the political stereotype and therefore must not be true……

Paul

September 30th, 2010
10:44 am

The first assault didn’t work out so well. I thought there was a truce? Wonder why the White House began this again. At least the tone seems more civil and has some historical perspective.

Nice similarities with Jefferson and FDR. A more recent example is Pres Bush, who, I believe, made it a point to not respond, let alone criticize, those media outlets who were not favorably disposed towards him.

Jay

“Personally, the bit about Maria Callas gets me worried. ”

DVD recommendation? “Callas Forever.” Fanny Ardant, Jeremy Irons.

Del

September 30th, 2010
10:44 am

Well at least we’re off that O’keefe, CNN Boudreau joke that no other outlet’s been particularly interested in.

jm

September 30th, 2010
10:45 am

Jimmy 62 – second that. When I was in college, all (or a lot anyway) of the white kids from up North I was in school with (and these weren’t Brooklyn punks, these were educated punks) dropped the N-bomb like it wasn’t any more offensive than calling someone an a-hole. Unbelievable.

Paul

September 30th, 2010
10:47 am

Hi Midori!!!

Do you have a link for the 10:30?

jm

September 30th, 2010
10:47 am

Most of these educated Northern punks were from the nice tony cities of Boston, Philadelphia (some may disagree with Philly as being tony), NY suburbs, etc etc

md

September 30th, 2010
10:47 am

Hey, the South is an equal opportunity region – here we have an equal number of white and black racists. But they will all deny it.

TaxPayer

September 30th, 2010
10:48 am

The poor Republicans are still trying to claim that Obama is in some way linked to their very own legislation that they passed to give folks a tax cut and to pay for it by getting rid of their tax cut this year. Deal with it.

Del

September 30th, 2010
10:50 am

jm,

I wouldn’t classify him as a wimp either. I do think he’s largely incompetent as POTUS and does whine when faced with disagreement. Coolness was supposed to be his strong suit but it’s been slipping greatly.

RW-(the original)

September 30th, 2010
10:52 am

Paul,

Here’s that ratings info, second story (at the moment) but I thought the others were relevant so I didn’t link directly to it

Some extremely selective cherry picking of the numbers went into that announcement of the death of Fox News.

john

September 30th, 2010
10:52 am

Liberals hate Fox News because it is the ONLY major network who actually investigates and provides facts and evidence to combat the consistent lies Democrats like Pelosi and Obama try and pull on their naive voting base…

People love to rag on Beck, but Beck provides more concrete facts and evidence than any other commentator on any major network. Beck even uses quotes directly from the mouth of Obama and Pelosi; yet the liberals always talk about how he is spewing vicious lies..

The Libs can’t stand the fact the Fox News continues to dominate all of the networks by a LARGE margin and is growing by the day….same with the Tea Party…so they attack them as racists…its sickening. Fortunately, Americans are picking up on this by the day and the Lib’s are pulling out all the stops

Pennsylvanian

September 30th, 2010
10:53 am

Nancy Pelosi cast the tie breaking vote to adjourn the house. So much for principles…..

Paul

September 30th, 2010
10:53 am

I wonder if this is why the assault resumed. Similar to another, recent poll, isn’t it?

“Americans are turning to cable channels more than broadcast networks to get information about politics and current events, according to a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll.

Almost half of the respondents, or 48%, named Fox News (24%), CNN (16%) or MSNBC (8%) as their main source on TV for politics and current events. About one-third of respondents, or 35%, said that they watched traditional networks such as NBC, ABC or CBS. 16% answered that they don’t watch any of these news sources.

The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.1 percentage points.”

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2010/09/29/wsjnbc-poll-cable-channels-top-networks-as-news-source/

Kamchak

September 30th, 2010
10:54 am

Can’t wait to hear the wailing come November from midori, grandma, kamshak and all the rest.

Geez–the November card? Again?

It seems that, historically, the opposition party has regained some control over one or both houses of Congress in the first mid-term of a new administration. The onus is on the Republicans to meet historical expectations.

All of this, “just wait til November” crap is just whistling past the graveyard.

TaxPayer

September 30th, 2010
10:54 am

I don’t watch any TV news but my question is this….for liberals, what station is truly fair and balanced?

I hear you railing against Fox but never hear you calling out CNN or MSNBC for their slanted views. Why is that?

For someone that don’t watch no TV news, you shore nuff has done formulated yoreself quite the opinion of some of them.

jm

September 30th, 2010
10:55 am

Del – can’t please everybody all the time. I think its ok if he loses his cool a bit…. controlled anger’s never a bad thing. Whining, definitely bad.

Midori

September 30th, 2010
10:56 am

NiceGuy – I report; you decide.

Paul

September 30th, 2010
10:56 am

RW-(the original)

Thanks. Percentages down or not, Fox still appears to dominate across the board.

With the exception of 20-somethings who watch The Daily Show, that is…..

Midori

September 30th, 2010
10:56 am

or should I say: I retort; you deride?

Del

September 30th, 2010
10:59 am

jm,

Agree…but he’s been attempting to combine whining with coolness over the last several months and it hasn’t served him well.

jm

September 30th, 2010
10:59 am

Doggone – you in a sour mood because the Dems are going to get walloped in Nov?

Funny thing, while the Dems won’t control the agenda almost no matter what (because even if the Reps don’t win the House, it’ll be very close), the Dems may still hold the House. You never know. Buck up.

John K

September 30th, 2010
10:59 am

Beck tells the truth?! So we are indeed heading down the Commie-Nazi path? LOL!

thomas

September 30th, 2010
11:00 am

Kamchak

September 30th, 2010
10:54 am

You don’t remember all of the talk of republicns being in the wilderness, hell a poster who proclaimed it many times has posted this am.

However if the republicns can take back the house and/or senate then it would be newsworthy.

I mean seriously after all of the bluster and bragging and sh*t talking by dmocrats after 2008 one would have thought the republicna party wouldn’t exist any longer.

Doggone/GA

September 30th, 2010
11:01 am

“you in a sour mood because the Dems are going to get walloped in Nov? ”

Nope. I think if what you state actually happens, in the long run it’s going to be a good thing. I’d like to see the Republican’s back in control of one of the houses of Congress and see how they handle dealing with the other house and a Democratic president. Should be interesting, if nothing else.

jm

September 30th, 2010
11:01 am

Del – agreed. And he tries to overexplain things. He needs a simple story and seems incapable of crafting one. His answers to questions take for…ev….er. I know the issues are complicated, but he needs simple answers to help people understand what he’s doing and why.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

September 30th, 2010
11:01 am

Well, I don’t watch other news shows so I don’t know nothing about them. But Fox News is fair and balanced because it gives the news the way I want to hear it. I don’t want to tune in to some news guy that wants to pretend Obama and the librul Democrats ain’t crazy. We all know they are crazy.

Have a good day everybody.

Nice Guy

September 30th, 2010
11:01 am

Well folks, I asked for some recent examples of inaccuracies reported by Fox News back @ 10:41, and dispite the sudden uptick in Google activity, I have yet to be provided one example.

Though I do see some new brain power has entered the room @ 10:54, so perhpas not all hope is lost…..

thomas

September 30th, 2010
11:01 am

TaxPayer

September 30th, 2010
10:54 am

am I wrong or didn’t you claim to not watch Fox News?

Tychus Findlay

September 30th, 2010
11:02 am

Enter your comments here

the guy on the couch

September 30th, 2010
11:03 am

I went to school with Reggie, at least for the year before he failed out. His taste is questionable at best.

Joe

September 30th, 2010
11:04 am

john: “Liberals hate Fox News because it is the ONLY major network who actually investigates and provides facts…

Google the words “Fox News lies” and you’ll get millions and millions of search results proving john wrong. (Incidentally, with a few exceptions, most major network and cable news shows lie or distort to serve their corporate masters. Fox, however, takes it further to the extreme.)

The Boner's Tan Line

September 30th, 2010
11:04 am

The Boner won’t allow any gangsta rap around here. The Boner is a Christian, Roman Catholic to be precise, and we all know Christians listen to Christian music only. That’s how you can tell Obama is not a Christian. If he were, he would not listen to anything except Christian music.

The Boner loves to turn up the “Ave Maria” as loud as it’ll go while he’s tanning.

Now when the Boner is doing the nasty with Lizzie the lobbyist he loves to have “Amazing Grace” blaring. He’ll even vocalize along with it, but he changes “Grace” to “Lizzie”. He really gets loud when the time has come. Whew! You need earplugs!

When the Boner is boinking Chrissie the candidate he loves to bellow out a little of that hymn, “Jesus I Come.” In honor of Chrissie and, after all, because the deed is being done on the satanic altar, he changes it to “Satan I Come.”

While getting it on with Debbie the darling wife, the Boner likes to listen to “Savior Lead Me Lest I Stray”. He’ll sing right along with that one too.

For just listening to be listening though, the Boner likes “Thank You Lord For The Women, er, I mean, Trials, That Come My Way.”

That Boner! God bless him.

thomas

September 30th, 2010
11:04 am

Joe

September 30th, 2010
11:04 am

Are those lies from opinion shows or from actual news coverage…. between 5am and 4pm?

Doggone/GA

September 30th, 2010
11:05 am

“most major network and cable news shows lie or distort to serve their corporate masters.”

I’ve seen this stated many times, but I have yet to see any real proof that NEWS shows lie or distort. Opinion shows are another matter, but most news that I see or read seems fairly accurate to me and not slanted.

Pennsylvanian

September 30th, 2010
11:06 am

jm and Del – I have noticed Obama’s speech… delivery…. has become…. increasingly,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,halting. Does not indicate coolness to me. Sound more like p1ssed off.

Joe

September 30th, 2010
11:09 am

Are those lies from opinion shows or from actual news coverage…. between 5am and 4pm?

Actual news coverage? That’s a good one.

Here you go Thomas: http://www.google.com

Del

September 30th, 2010
11:11 am

Bernie Goldberg has written material along with creditable documentation regarding bias in the MSM. Anyone who doubts may want to read his books.