‘cuz the devil knows your weakness, son!

One night, years ago, I wandered into this little jazz club in Seattle, and up on the stage at the end of the darkened room was this chunky little blind white girl, all by herself, playin’ piano and singing.

And she was just ROCKIN’ it!!

I turned to this guy standing at the doorway and gave him a “What the hell is THIS!?!?” look. He looked back at me, grinned and shook his head. He didn’t know what the hell it was either, except that it was damn good.

That girl, it turned out, was a young Dianne Schuur. Here she is doing one of my favorite songs, about Satan’s temptation of one “Reverend Lee.” The choice seems appropriate, given one of the week’s top story lines.

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September 25th, 2010
8:59 pm

WASHINGTON — Democratic candidates across the country are opening a fierce offensive of negative advertisements against Republicans, using lawsuits, tax filings, reports from the Better Business Bureau and even divorce proceedings to try to discredit their opponents and save their congressional majority.

And in the case of the Georgia Governor’s race, the Urinal making up a story out of whole clothe and putting it on the front page.

Don’t worry Repugs, everybody snickered, just sayin…

Bruno

September 25th, 2010
9:00 pm

Banana Republic

September 25th, 2010
9:05 pm

if evolution is real, “why aren’t monkeys still evolving into humans?

Banana Republic

September 25th, 2010
9:29 pm

Why does The Whine read urinals. I don’t even want to know how though. I can’t imagine it involves floating tea leaves.

josef nix

September 25th, 2010
9:31 pm

Banana

Have you been following what’s going on with the baboons? Seriously…

Soothsayer

September 25th, 2010
9:37 pm

Hillbilly Deluxe

September 25th, 2010
9:42 pm

Sooth

That song has some of the best mood setting guitar and steel playing, I’ve ever heard.

Soothsayer

September 25th, 2010
9:45 pm

What a great song! For those old enough to remember, Gary McKee used to play that song when the winter weather was REALLY STINKY!

Soothsayer

September 25th, 2010
9:47 pm

Bruno

September 25th, 2010
9:50 pm

Back at ya, Sooth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLcx4VCkJH0&feature=related

I know that we’ve well-covered Gordon Lightfoot here on the blog several times in the past, but you can never have too much Gordy IMO.

For those old enough to remember

Just the old fart in me talking (just turned 50), but the newer musicians just don’t know how to tell a good story the way the musicians from the 70s did.

BADA BING

September 25th, 2010
9:51 pm

the eye shave it…..BADA BING watches….waits.

Soothsayer

September 25th, 2010
9:57 pm

Please, somebody, find me a studio-quality version of “Early Morning Rain” OK?

Banana Republic

September 25th, 2010
9:59 pm

Have you been following what’s going on with the baboons? Seriously…

Seriously!

josef nix

September 25th, 2010
10:04 pm

Banana

Oops! Sorry I missed the joke. I’ve been avoiding all that, but I see you HAVE been following what’s going on with the baboons! :-)

Soothsayer

September 25th, 2010
10:04 pm

Friends, if you don’t believe in evolution, you need to come up to the Dawsonville Wal-Mart. We have all of the various stages of evolution on display for the edification of the scientific community.

josef nix

September 25th, 2010
10:10 pm

The thing on the baboons…there is a new theory making the rounds that evolution is not so gradual as we previously thought, but comes in rapid spurts. The case study has been that of the baboons who have apparently developed in a period of two or three generations the ability to make, lay and execute complex plans to achieve an end. They had taken to attacking cars for goodies when the cars stopped to gawk at them. When the cars quit stopping, the apes took to standing in the road, attacking when the cars stopped to avoid hitting them. Then when the cars stopped stopping, the baboons noted that if there was a mother with an infant, they would still stop. So they have taken now to putting a mother and infant in the road, the tribe hiding in the bush out of sight and attacking when the car stops.

j$

September 25th, 2010
10:11 pm

Sooth, or go anywhere around atlanta.

chillz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_3GVhfnwZI

Hillbilly Deluxe

September 25th, 2010
10:12 pm

It ain’t the Dawson County people, it’s what that damn outlet mall brought in.

Bruno

September 25th, 2010
10:20 pm

there is a new theory making the rounds that evolution is not so gradual as we previously thought, but comes in rapid spurts.

I wouldn’t call that a new theory, josef. The history of evolutionary changes has always been one of rapid development. The reason is that “evolution” is actually a teleological process, i.e. purpose-driven. While the mechanism for accomplishing that isn’t known completely, I strongly believe that it will be shown that it is directed by the epigenomes.

What has always frustrated me are the idiot “scientists” who try to claim that evolution is all one big happy accident, driven by random mutations or some other such nonsense. Anyone with a background in biochemistry and physics understands that the complexity represented by living organisms cannot be the result of any random process.

As I’ve stated to you before, my life goal has been to synthesize Science and Religion. Each on its own only tells half the story.

Soothsayer

September 25th, 2010
10:21 pm

j$ That song was from the “White Album” right?

josef nix

September 25th, 2010
10:25 pm

j$

Around Atlanta…? Hell, go anywhere in human “civilization!” Or take a look in the mirror! I think the evolutionists are overly optimistic!

RW-(the original)

September 25th, 2010
10:29 pm

josef,

Jay B is still holding out on giving us our evolution thread, but punctuated equilibrium isn’t really all that new a theory in evolutionary biology.

Bruno

September 25th, 2010
10:30 pm

I suspect that HD has taken some of my past “attacks” on religion in the wrong way, though he has never directly said that directly to me. Just to clear the air, I am very harsh on people who misuse religion, but only because it is such a serious matter. We all owe our existence to the Creator, to God. Without God in the equation, the equation is incomplete. What form God takes is very much open to debate, of course. Personally, I understand God to be a spirit, though the word “spirit” needs to be carefully defined so that it is consistent with Science. Over in the scientific world, the term “emergent properties” is synonymous with the word “spirit”.

josef nix

September 25th, 2010
10:31 pm

Bruno

I might have known that’d bring out the scientist in you! The “newness” I was referring to is that the rapid bursts are much shorter generationally speaking than previously accepted. As we’ve discussed before, I’m Maimonidean. I see no conflict between science and religion once the dogmatists of each are pushed aside…

josef nix

September 25th, 2010
10:34 pm

RW
We’ll get our evolution thread yet, won’t we? See my comment later to Bruno for clarification of what I meant by “new” theory…

RW-(the original)

September 25th, 2010
10:36 pm

I thought there must have been some huge breaking news to have gotten us suddenly a few hundred comments deep.

Should have known it was just Bruno blowing through. :-)

Bruno,

A buddy of mine in Dothan swears by a fried chicken joint in Columbus. He’s never said much about the food but supposedly there’s a waitress there that’s some sort of goddess.

Jay

September 25th, 2010
10:38 pm

Actually, Bruno, almost every evolutionary scientist will tell you that evolution is NOT a purpose-driven process. And many if not most have the very “background in biochemistry and physics” that you claim would preclude such a theory.

It is not driven toward perfection of a species, nor toward more complexity. It is driven solely by what allows a population of genes to spread itself. That’s the science, anyway. Any other explanation is based on something OTHER than science.

Note that I didn’t say something LESS than science. But the science is pretty clear.

RW-(the original)

September 25th, 2010
10:38 pm

josef,

Once we get that thread I’m breaking out my inner Muslim. :-)

Jay

September 25th, 2010
10:39 pm

RW, don’t let Scout know that.

RW-(the original)

September 25th, 2010
10:41 pm

Jay B,

I’ll just let Scout think it’s a drill.

josef nix

September 25th, 2010
10:42 pm

Well Bruno and RW are here and as much as I’d like to stick around and see where it goes, check out time is here…

Jay

September 25th, 2010
10:43 pm

RW, I’m not sure Scout distinguishes between drill and the real thing. But I’ll keep my fingers crossed for ya.

RW-(the original)

September 25th, 2010
10:44 pm

Well Bruno and RW are here and as much as I’d like to stick around and see where it goes, check out time is here

HBO doesn’t have any live boxing tonight so we’ve got to recreate it somewhere. :-)

Jay

September 25th, 2010
10:45 pm

And Bruno, how’d your first week go?

Glad to know you’re back among the paid. Only 14,999,999 more to go.

josef nix

September 25th, 2010
10:46 pm

See, Jay does know what I’m going to say…comes in on evolution just as I’m checking out…! RW has an inner Muslim and Andy’s a lesbian…damn, Jay, what else are we going to say that you’re keeping secret?

RW-(the original)

September 25th, 2010
10:48 pm

Thanks Jay, I had my fingers crossed for your Knitting Lions today as well. That seemed to work out so maybe I’ll pose as a Sikh.

Bruno

September 25th, 2010
10:52 pm

Actually, Bruno, almost every evolutionary scientist will tell you that evolution is NOT a purpose-driven process. And many if not most have the very “background in biochemistry and physics” that you claim would preclude such a theory.

Which is why they are almost all full of sh*t, Jay. If you read carefully between the lines, however, they use “code words” like “survival of the fittest” and “emergent properties” to state what common sense alone will tell you. When pressed for details, however, there is a lot of hand-waving.

When you begin your studies with atomic physics, it is immediately apparent that the union of atomic particles itself is nothing short of miraculous. Schrodinger’s equations as applied to the union of two hydrogen atoms are enough to boggle the mind. If you try to apply those equations to anything more complex, then the world’s best computers are immediately overwhelmed.

Maybe you put your faith in some of these folks, but I don’t. Very few of them can see the forest for the trees. If an appeal to authority is enough for you, then I won’t stand in your way. I prefer to make my own judgments.

j$

September 25th, 2010
10:53 pm

gotta put this one out there in case no one honored Mike Edward’s untimely fate.

Man, those were some good times at the old studio 54.

RIP friend.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfmhNpbxDxA&feature=fvst

Jay

September 25th, 2010
10:59 pm

Understood, Bruno.

But if you’re gonna take that stance, I don’t think it’s wise to claim that anyone who knows physics and biochem would agree with you. It’s based on something else.

Bruno

September 25th, 2010
11:00 pm

It is driven solely by what allows a population of genes to spread itself. That’s the science, anyway. Any other explanation is based on something OTHER than science.

Sorry to nitpick that statement as well, Jay, but “the science”, as you term it, cannot determine the “purpose” of any system. Any such statement lies outside the realm of science. The term “survival of the fittest” is a tautology, since “the fittest” are simply “those who survive”.

The bottom line is that “random mutations” as a possible mechanism for evolutionary change is completely off-base. The rapidity of adaptive change suggests a purpose driven mechanism, which can only be explained by the epigenomes, which direct the activity of the genes.

Jay

September 25th, 2010
11:00 pm

And RW, I too had my fingers (and toes) crossed. That was Temple’s first loss, I think. But still … Temple.

Jay

September 25th, 2010
11:02 pm

I would agree, science can’t determine purpose. You’re exactly right.

So if you want to claim there’s a purpose, you’re by definition calling upon something other than science. Not physics. Not biochem.

Bruno

September 25th, 2010
11:03 pm

But if you’re gonna take that stance, I don’t think it’s wise to claim that anyone who knows physics and biochem would agree with you. It’s based on something else.

I can’t claim to know the background of every evolutionist out there, but people who are typically drawn to the life sciences, e.g. biology, are usually weak in physics and vice versa.

Bruno

September 25th, 2010
11:12 pm

So if you want to claim there’s a purpose, you’re by definition calling upon something other than science. Not physics. Not biochem.

Though mathematical and physical laws are ultimately presented in a rigorous form, they all originate in the realm of intuition. I don’t know about you, Jay, but my intuition says that the overwhelming complexity and level of organization required by even the simplest living beings isn’t random or accidental. If that were the case, life would have never started in the first place.

Now, does this automatically lead to the belief in an anthropomorphic God?? Not to me, I think that is a false dichotomy. At some point, however, we are faced with the idea of ex nihilo , “something out of nothing”. Our minds, as amazing as they are, simply can’t solve that puzzle.

Bruno

September 25th, 2010
11:41 pm

It’s getting lonely being the last man standing…..again.

For AmVet (George), wherever he may be partying tonight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWy9q24wfdU

Brett

September 25th, 2010
11:55 pm

Glancing at the comments herein vomited forth by the pathetic, uneducated Repugs is like mud-wrestling in the sewer with a bunch of half-wits.

Mick

September 26th, 2010
12:24 am

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September 26th, 2010
7:24 am

I think the first hurdle any evolutionary “scientist” needs to overcome is, like, having any proof of it.

Yes, you were “spurted” forth, I won’t argue with that.

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September 26th, 2010
7:35 am

Stimulus-funded jobs program may end
Thousands who worked again face unemployment. -Urinal

And now check out the only company “saved” by this mentioned in the story-

http://www.armstrongpie.com/

I wonder if our first lady, Idi Amin, knows what little fatties the gov is working so hard to create?

Or is she eating all of the product?

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September 26th, 2010
9:45 am

Aahhh, the hangover from Recovery Summer is pounding their empty heads-

Recovery feels like recession
Unemployment still high, spending anemic despite slump’s end. -Urinal

Maybe because it is a recession you freaking moron.

geez

BADA BING

September 26th, 2010
10:10 am

I guess this is off-subject Sunday. Lindsay Lohan has so many mug shot pictures out, that somebody should make a multi-colored poster similar to Warhol’s painting of Marlyn Monroe.

BADA BING

September 26th, 2010
10:12 am

Democratic thinking…….If it looks like a recession, and quacks like a recession, and it walks like a recession, it’s a recovery.

AmVet

September 26th, 2010
10:38 am

Good morning, blogging friends.

I was at the local Nebraska haunt last night watching an extremely uninspired Huskers effort. Jeez, just when I thinks are really starting to gel in Lincoln, the Jack Rabbits, of all teams, make us look like we’ve gone right back to the Callahan years…

I see that some tried to make Friday night less than special again. (wink, wink, nudge, nudge, RW!)

An interesting discourse on sardines, in which one position was bolstered by facts and links and the other by demagoguery. (Sorry, jt, that’s just the way I read it…)

And an extremely interesting discussion on evolution and all that that entails. Brother B is more than just a master of things political, he is a true Renaissance Man in the breadth and depth of his intellect. And he makes me consider many things in a very different light.

Too bad it was all via the evil and liberal public education system in this country! (grin.)

And thanks for the George H. song. A timeless message that still needs to be shared today. Give me love, give me love, give me peace on earth…

And back at ya’ll on a fine fall morning…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TWd3skb-Rw

Doggone/GA

September 26th, 2010
11:13 am

“And an extremely interesting discussion on evolution”

Yeah…but the problem with that discussion is that the example used (the baboons) isn’t an example of genetic evolution. At best it’s a small example of behavioral evolution…but my bet is that it’s not even that. My bet is that it just proves baboons are smarter than even scientists realized they are.

Southern Comfort

September 26th, 2010
11:43 am

My bet is that it just proves baboons are smarter than even scientists realized they are.

And that task gets easier by the year as we continue down the path of de-education.

Doggone/GA

September 26th, 2010
11:46 am

SoCo – there is that! But evolution, like relativity, is easily distorted beyond it’s scientific meaning.

RW-(the original)

September 26th, 2010
11:58 am

What’s that on the back of my leg?

Southern Comfort

September 26th, 2010
12:10 pm

Doggone

In our instant fix society, almost everything is distorted beyond it’s scientific, or even regular, meaning.

RW

Is this what you felt on your leg?

Doggone/GA

September 26th, 2010
12:13 pm

“In our instant fix society, almost everything is distorted beyond it’s scientific”

Well, that’s mostly true…but the distortion of both evolution and relativity is a LOT older than just today’s society. The problem is that EVEN our as late as today, those distortions still exist.

josef nix

September 26th, 2010
12:14 pm

Doggone

And behavioral evolution isn’t evolution?

Soothsayer

September 26th, 2010
12:16 pm

Doggone/GA

September 26th, 2010
12:17 pm

“And behavioral evolution isn’t evolution?”

It is change, it’s not necessarily evolution and it certainly isn’t Darwinian (or genetic) evolution.

Southern Comfort

September 26th, 2010
12:19 pm

josef

When Doggone’s talking about evolution, I think she’s referring to genetic evolution. That would be referring to last night’s 9:05pm post. That poster’s question is more related to genetic evolution as opposed to behavorial evolution. The process you described with the baboons sounds more like adaptation as opposed to evolution. That’s just what I think though, and we both know I’m not an esteemed member of the scientific community. :)

Doggone/GA

September 26th, 2010
12:23 pm

“The process you described with the baboons sounds more like adaptation as opposed to evolution”

It was an example of adaptation. Baboons are quite clever creatures and as a “pack” animal are very good at cooperative behavior. The description given sounds to me like just an adaptation of their normal cooperative behavior to a new “prey” source.

Meet The Depressed

September 26th, 2010
12:25 pm

Go figure. Yesterday I referenced the epic disaster of the “stimulus” bill and how much of a waste was in it. Today an article on Bloomberg references an author who wrote a book about it: Black Swan. Now that we know the Obama dream team is abandoning ship port and starboard, the truths are beginning to unravel:

‘U.S. President Barack Obama and his administration weakened the country’s economy by seeking to foster growth instead of paying down the federal debt, said Nassim Nicholas Taleb, author of “The Black Swan.” “Obama did exactly the opposite of what should have been done,” Taleb said yesterday in Montreal in a speech as part of Canada’s Salon Speakers series. “He surrounded himself with people who exacerbated the problem. You have a person who has cancer and instead of removing the cancer, you give him tranquilizers. When you give tranquilizers to a cancer patient, they feel better but the cancer gets worse.” Today, Taleb said, “total debt is higher than it was in 2008 and unemployment is worse.”’

Just wait until taxes get jacked back up and Obamacare kicks in (and some insurance premiums are already going up – I didn’t believe for one second they would not go up, counter to Democrat promises). And don’t even go there on what Cap & Trade will do. Change we can believe in!

And then we have the New York Times on the typical modus operandi of the Democrat Party: “WASHINGTON — Democratic candidates across the country are opening a fierce offensive of negative advertisements against Republicans, using lawsuits, tax filings, reports from the Better Business Bureau and even divorce proceedings to try to discredit their opponents and save their congressional majority.”

Do they have anything positive to run on with nearly four years running both chambers of Congress? Didn’t think so.

But on a lighter note, last week a man in New Jersey was arrested after beating his girlfriend with a cat. Now that gives a whole new meaning to the phrase “pu**y whipped.”

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September 26th, 2010
12:30 pm

Kansas City, bwa

Vikings, duh, ew.

Pats

The Dirty Birds on the road, hahahahaha, fuggit about it.

Giants

Steelers, although…

Bengals

Ravens

Texans, Stars 0-3

Skins

Eagles

Colts

Cards

Bolts

The Fishies

F the Packers, just sayin…

Southern Comfort

September 26th, 2010
12:30 pm

Just wait until taxes get jacked back up and Obamacare kicks in

Healthcare reform has already started, and insurance premiums were already increasing. That’s your free market at work. They are free to increase their premiums, and we have no choice but to pay them since we’ll soon be mandated to have coverage. It’s rather funny that most conservatives are so against this plan, when mandating coverage was originally a Republican idea. Go figure…

Also, unlike supply-side thinkers, I don’t think a 3% increase in taxes will hurt anyone who currently is working. Many who don’t have a job would more than likely rather have a 3% increase in something as opposed as to not having a job at all.

josef nix

September 26th, 2010
12:36 pm

SoCo, Doggone

Not a scientist myself, I won’t try to argue the point of the Darwinian/genetic. Does this mean I may no longer use the term evolution in reference to societal change? The evolution of the capitalist imperialist system…the evolution of democratic self-rule? So, adaptation and change or not evolution, the “thing” did not evolve from a previous form?

Then the Darwinian studies of the birds on the Galapagos are not really a study of evolution, but a study of adaptation?

Mary Elizabeth

September 26th, 2010
12:36 pm

Bruno, thank you for your introduction, at least to me, of this new concept regarding behaviorial evolution.
I have intuitively felt for awhile that the direction that we, collectively, wish to take our nation and world will effect the collective consciousness of society at large and, thereby, its evolution.
From the scanning that I have done in Wikipedia on the eginenomes you mentioned, it appears, in a brief, first reading, that societal changes (behaviorial) can, in fact, change the physiology of the DNA passed to future generations – and, thus, effect the course of evolution.

Mary Elizabeth

September 26th, 2010
12:40 pm

Correction: Epigenomes – not eginenomes.

What'd I Do

September 26th, 2010
12:42 pm

If you seek an answer to that 9:05 post, then look no farther than the link in the 9:59 post.

Southern Comfort

September 26th, 2010
12:42 pm

josef

I think adaptation and evolution go hand-in-hand. What starts out initially as an adaptation can eventually evolve and change a species. Adaptation would be short-term thinking or problem solving. Evolution would be the ability to view situations and think thru them instead of acting first and then thinking.

Doggone/GA

September 26th, 2010
12:43 pm

“Does this mean I may no longer use the term evolution in reference to societal change? The evolution of the capitalist imperialist system…the evolution of democratic self-rule? So, adaptation and change or not evolution, the “thing” did not evolve from a previous form? ”

Certainly you can still use it, you just aren’t using it in a Darwinian sense. That is evolution in the vernacular, not in the scientific and genetic sense.

“Then the Darwinian studies of the birds on the Galapagos are not really a study of evolution, but a study of adaptation?”

It was both. A species adapts to environmental changes. We can see adaptation happening all around us. It is evolution in the Darwinian sense when 2 separate populations of an originating species can no longer “go back” and interbreed because evolutionary (Darwinian) changes have made that impossible.

Doggone/GA

September 26th, 2010
12:47 pm

“Adaptation would be short-term thinking or problem solving. Evolution would be the ability to view situations and think thru them instead of acting first and then thinking.”

You are, in the main, correct…but you are thinking are a far too human level. Animals don’t think things through and then decide to change. Genetic mutation occur all the time, the vast majority of them are unseen and unsuccessful. The ones that are successful MIGHT contribute to the continued success of the species, or might just not inhibit that success.

But when circumstances change in the environment and those circumstances favor members of the species with a particular genetic mutation AND that continued success eventually leads to a new population that can no longer interbreed with the “parent” population…THAT is Darwinian evolution.

Southern Comfort

September 26th, 2010
12:47 pm

What’d I Do

Deferring to a politician for an answer to a scientific issue is like going to your mechanic for open heart surgery. He may understand how systems pump fluids, but that’s about it. If that politician is a scientific expert, then there’s an exception for that.

Doggone/GA

September 26th, 2010
12:48 pm

I’m outta hear for a while. Got a new waterfall calling to me!

josef nix

September 26th, 2010
12:55 pm

My training is as a linguist, so I’ll just stick to that great Yankee master in the field, and go with ole
Noah’s namesake’s definition sticking with the first three definitions and its Latin origins, leaving it to others to argue definition 4a… :-)

EVOLUTION
1
: one of a set of prescribed movements
2
a : a process of change in a certain direction : unfolding b : the action or an instance of forming and giving something off : emission c (1) : a process of continuous change from a lower, simpler, or worse to a higher, more complex, or better state : growth (2) : a process of gradual and relatively peaceful social, political, and economic advance d : something evolved
3
: the process of working out or developing
4
a : the historical development of a biological group (as a race or species) : phylogeny b : a theory that the various types of animals and plants have their origin in other preexisting types and that the distinguishable differences are due to modifications in successive generations; also : the process described by this theory
5
: the extraction of a mathematical root
6
: a process in which the whole universe is a progression of interrelated phenomena

From the Latin evolutio, unrolling, from evolvere, first known usage in 1622

Larry, Curly, and Mo N Santo

September 26th, 2010
12:56 pm

We have a much more forwardly path to alterating the homosapiens and our approach is quite profitable and hence, nuk nuk nuk, sustainable thus desirable. It is the way of the corporation, wooh wooh wooh, and I say that without hesitation because there can be no relaxation without contemplation of avoiding the temptation. Corn anyone. It’s a new variety. We call it cob-free and quite tasty. Don’t worry. It doesn’t bite back. Yet.

josef nix

September 26th, 2010
1:02 pm

Stooges

Corporate evolution?

Mary Elizabeth

September 26th, 2010
1:07 pm

Doggone 12:43, “two separate populations of the originating species cannot ‘go back’ and interbreed.”
Last evening I saw once again Tennessee Williams’ masterful play, “Streetcar named Desire” on TCM. Blanche (Vivien Leigh) says to her sister Stella (Kim Hunter) that Marlon Brando is a brute in the evolutionary process (paraphrased) and that she does not want Stella to stay “behind” with her brutish husband as evolutionary forces moves forward in intellectual and spiritual development. I thought, again, in hearing those words that a spiritual evolution of consciousness could be coming for humans. And Tennessee Williams was visionary enough to see it unfolding. In all evolution, the past (individuals) remain for awhile as the future (individuals) move forward into new dimensions.

Hillbilly Deluxe

September 26th, 2010
1:10 pm

SoCo

I worked for many years in automobile dealerships and I also knew a couple of doctors, who enjoyed working on cars, as a hobby. I found it very interesting talking to the doctors and listening to them talk about how similarly diagnostics work, in each field. (The doctors had taken some formal auto mechanics training, at night, in their spare time). They said that both the mechanic and the doctor approach the problem in the same way. You try to isolate the complaint, then you go through the possible causes and which systems are working when. By a process of elimination, some things can be weeded out. Of course, the two fields are quite different but I found their take on it very interesting.

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September 26th, 2010
1:13 pm

The only thing I agree with concerning the theory of “evolution” is that liberals are closely related to the monkey family, y’all were spot on with that discovery.

Far as the rest of it goes, we’re still waiting for some, like, uh, proof…

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September 26th, 2010
1:20 pm

Y’all think I’m joking about 1:13, dontcha? Think about this, the family of monkies does all sorts of depravity, unrestrained by human morality, they kill and eat their young, masturbate in public, throw their feces around, shriek like idiots, surrender like monkeys, eat up all their bananas and then steal some from their fellow monkeys when they run out, it’s amazing how much liberals and primates have in common.

Except the primates aren’t weird enough to get queer with each other.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

September 26th, 2010
1:27 pm

If the theory of “evolution” were indeed fact, the liberals would have lost their opposing thumbs a long time ago, it isn’t like they use them for work or anything…

josef nix

September 26th, 2010
1:28 pm

Wow! Just look at what a snippy off the wall comment can evolve into!

All I set out to do was respond to the question ,“if evolution is real, why aren’t monkeys still evolving into humans?” by pointing out that apparently the baboons were catching up with the homo sapiens’ willingness to put the mothers and children at risk to get goodies and that that “evolution” was a matter of two or three generations.

And I see IR/YW is here to give us the baboon’s perspective…

:-)

I should have just followed Jay’s lead and stuck with abortion, the State of Israel and Palin!

jt

September 26th, 2010
1:33 pm

S’more Federalies in action.

300 HUNDRED INNOCENT TURTLES. We must destroy them to save them.

This War on Turtles should end. Snooping Federal SOBs. From the AJC………………..

“The lawsuit alleged Seitz and two federal wildlife officers violated Santhuff’s civil rights by going into his backyard without a warrant to gather information about his turtle collection in 2005. The evidence they obtained was used as a basis to arrest Santhuff on charges related to the illegal possession and breeding of rare turtles.”

“More than 500 turtles were confiscated, but about 300 died in state custody.” (our state was under FEDERAL orders.).

Can’t wait for Federal Healthcare.

I’m sure Jay will poo-pah those bad, bad turtle lovers.

josef nix

September 26th, 2010
1:34 pm

Mary Elizabeth

“If you remember that all of Williams’ men are really women, he begins to make a little sense.” Truman Capote

But allow me to say again that I long ago rejected the Blanche du Bois syndrome! I went with Stella, got me a Stanley (well, a refined one!) and have been happy ever since. BTW, I was blessed to have the chance to talk to Williams about this and it was kind of interesting to hear his comments on the interpretations of “what he was saying.”

AmVet

September 26th, 2010
1:35 pm

Bro jo, it could always be worse! You could have embarrassed yourself in front of the the entire nation like these three did…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ88l5ql_FQ

josef nix

September 26th, 2010
1:35 pm

OOPS bad…real bad…
That should have been “if you remember that all of Williams women are really men…”

josef nix

September 26th, 2010
1:38 pm

AmVet

You mean Jay’s blog isn’t the entire nation? Just ask us… :-)

Advanced Auto Diagnostics

September 26th, 2010
1:42 pm

Mechanic: I’ve checked the intake and exhaust and fuel flow and pressure and basically everything seems to be working properly. I’d say you’re good to go and I’ll go ahead and schedule you for your age 55 checkup. By the way, why do you come to me instead of to a doctor?

Car Owner: Well, you do the same thing for a lot less and you even give me a warranty.

Hillbilly Deluxe

September 26th, 2010
1:51 pm

Some people know as much about auto mechanics as they do about how to slack power lines.

Off to watch the ballgame. Y’all (note proper ‘ placement) have fun.

Christine McDonnell's Subconscious Thoughts

September 26th, 2010
1:55 pm

You bunch of evolutionaries,

I was merely posing an answer in the form of a question. It was not an issue to be paraded around a bunch of master debaters. Now pardon me while I sit a spell, on you. Where’s Sarah when I need her most.

AmVet

September 26th, 2010
1:55 pm

jt, at least Uncle Sam didn’t singlehandedly devastate (illegally kept or otherwise) turtle populations like he destroyed the sardine business. (grin)

jo, though your acclaim on today’s topics is very high hereabouts, I don’t think it goes that far!

For no other reason than I missed Friday night…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agWpGKg0u3g

Advanced Auto Diagnostics

September 26th, 2010
1:59 pm

Bye Hillbilly,

ya’ll come back now, ya heah.

josef nix

September 26th, 2010
1:59 pm

AmVet

Not only am I pre-Darwinian, I’m pre-Copernican…the universe revolves (AND evolves) around ME!

josef nix

September 26th, 2010
2:02 pm

“ya’ll come back now, ya heah.”

He will. Note the placement of the apostrophe! :-)

Advanced Auto Diagnostics

September 26th, 2010
2:12 pm

Note the placement of the apostrophe!

Ya, I noted the placement.

josef nix

September 26th, 2010
2:15 pm

Advanced

:-) Native speaker, er ya?

josef nix

September 26th, 2010
2:24 pm

Back in a bit to see what the thread has evolved into…wait make that mutated into…teenage ninja turtles perhaps…ya’ll’ll be civil, now, won’t cha?