‘cuz the devil knows your weakness, son!

One night, years ago, I wandered into this little jazz club in Seattle, and up on the stage at the end of the darkened room was this chunky little blind white girl, all by herself, playin’ piano and singing.

And she was just ROCKIN’ it!!

I turned to this guy standing at the doorway and gave him a “What the hell is THIS!?!?” look. He looked back at me, grinned and shook his head. He didn’t know what the hell it was either, except that it was damn good.

That girl, it turned out, was a young Dianne Schuur. Here she is doing one of my favorite songs, about Satan’s temptation of one “Reverend Lee.” The choice seems appropriate, given one of the week’s top story lines.

484 comments Add your comment

RW-(the original)

September 24th, 2010
10:33 pm

Mick

September 24th, 2010
10:48 pm

rw

That was one crazy and way ahead of his times performance. I always thought that song was by deep purple. Alice cooper must have been inspired-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WQptxygSM8&feature=related

popeye

September 24th, 2010
10:55 pm

Dianne Schuur, absolutely phenominal. My personal favorite by her would be “The Very Thought of you”.

Another Seattle girl…Nothing like the pacific northwest!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w70-1b9SCj0

Mick

September 24th, 2010
11:25 pm

I’m definately not going out on a
bloodrock tune; great hardly ever played beatle song…nite

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUjV9sQbdDk

RW-(the original)

September 25th, 2010
12:23 am

I thought for sure the Crazy World of Arthur Brown would ignite page 2, but I had no idea it would render everyone homeless

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

September 25th, 2010
7:01 am

Front page blaring headline-

Nathan Deal’s campaign for governor has paid a company in which the Republican nominee is a part owner more than $135,000 to lease aircraft — many times more than any other candidate for governor in this campaign cycle. -Urinal

So the Urinal/AJC wants him to stiff the other owners?

The Atlanta Journal Constitution is a bought and paid for political propaganda organization staffed by white house hacks and stooges, stories like this make that fact rather obvious, question, is this^^ a violation of Campaign Finance Disclosure Rules?

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

September 25th, 2010
7:09 am

NEW YORK — Iran would consider ending uranium enrichment, the most crucial part of its controversial nuclear activities, if world powers send Tehran nuclear fuel for a medical research reactor, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told reporters Friday. -Urinal

Oh yeah, a “medical research reactor.”

In other words, the ragheads ain’t having any luck spinning up their evil brew and need obozo to send them some good stuff so they can load it up and flame Israel.

And the AJC tries to hurry things along.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

September 25th, 2010
7:13 am

At the close of the hearing, Colbert dropped his TV persona and turned serious. “Right now migrant workers suffer and have no rights,” Colbert said. -Urinal

Yeah, so why don’t they go back to Mexico then and get away from the evil United States, clown?

BADA BING

September 25th, 2010
7:22 am

Mexican workers suffer and have no rights in the US. The same deal they get in their own country.

Rightwing Troll

September 25th, 2010
7:35 am

I figured the Deal story was a no-story… With all that campaign cash floating around, an ethically challenged man like Deal can “take care” of those debts, if only those pesky reporters would stop digging…

Colbert is freaking hilarious… so is the United farm Workers “Take Our Jobs… Please” campaign.. lets see if some fat lazy entitled Americans can put down thier texting phones long enough to pick a few Tomatos…

Dave R.

September 25th, 2010
8:06 am

Completely off topic, but extremely telling:

Sen. John Kerry D-Gigolo, in an interview with the Boston Herald yesterday, finally admitted he figured out why Hope & Change got elected:

“We have an electorate that doesn’t always pay that much attention to what’s going on so people are influenced by a simple slogan rather than the facts or the truth or what’s happening,” Kerry told reporters after touring the Boston Medical Center yesterday.

Finally, a Democrat that can admit the truth!

(Actually, he was picking on the Tea Party, but don’t you know THIS quote is going to come back and haunt him in the next election?) :)

carlosgvv

September 25th, 2010
8:14 am

Josef Nix

A priest of preacher can seem to be good, but you never know.
How about Sam Nunn? I thought he was the only good politician in Washington.
v

TaxPayer

September 25th, 2010
8:26 am

So, Nathan’s News reveals even more unethical Deals. Who would ever thought. Then again, he is a Republican. And what was that little blurb from Phil Gingry and his denied request to add “bipartisanship” to that rehash of the GOP’s Contract on Americans.

jt

September 25th, 2010
8:36 am

A couple of monthes back, the LAST REMAINING SARDINE CANNERY in AMERICA shuttered it’s doors. You cannot get an AMERICAN-canned sardine.

(Sarc on)

I am so sure that this had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with it. It was cheap chinese labor and greedy rich people.

Here is some more Federal” Public Servants ” at work————————–

“Almost every one of the 172 law enforcement officers of The National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration’s (NOAA’s) Fisheries Service has a take-home vehicle, sort of but not exactly a perk. The cars are not part of the job description; they are a derived benefit, bought and paid for by the monies gathered by punishing fishermen. ”

Does NOAA’s OLE (Office of Law Enforcement) policy allow take-home cars? Not exactly. To be precise, there is no policy. Does NOAA’s OLE policy permit the purchase of vehicles outright? No; policy is to lease or rent. How then were they allowed to buy some 200 cars ($4.6M)? Lack of adult supervision.

The people we count on to protect our industry, preserve our environment, and manage our fisheries cannot even manage themselves.

Backup is provided in a scathing July 2010 Inspector General (IG) report on the NOAA law enforcement Asset Forfeiture Fund (AFF), made up of the money realized by fines and forfeitures from fishermen. From January 2005 through June 2009, the AFF received some $96M, spent $49M, and had a balance of $8.4M. My arithmetic suggests $40M is missing. The IG’s report describes NOAA’s management of the AFF as an “abstract concept” and as “susceptible to both error and abuse.” You think?

Still, the IG found several anecdotes sufficiently credible to include in his January report. Watch the linked video of a fisherman testifying before a Congressional subcommittee. This is sworn testimony, much stronger than a simple anecdote. Early in the tape the fisherman tells of being grilled on his personal finances. As the tape goes on the fisherman describes being fined some $27K and being threatened – coerced – with an increase to $125K if he insisted on going before the NOAA administrative judge. Further into his testimony, the fisherman relates an incident when he and one of his captains were offered full relief from a fine – extortion – if they would drop a dime on another target of the OLE.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/09/noaas_law_enforcement_behaving.html

How much more are we gonna take?

josef nix

September 25th, 2010
9:07 am

carlos

I’m no real fan of Sam Nunn, myself. His stands on gay things alienated me. I do think he fit the John Stennis mold of the Southern gentleman politician, all right and, as you said of preachers and priests, they can appear to be good. Mr. Nunn did have the good graces to exit the stage when he could no longer play the game with what was his version of a clear conscience.as we descended into this partisan bickering spiral. I do think he possessed something of a moral compass, but the same as the rest, he was not above forgetting that when it was in his best interest to do so, playing footsie with the money boys.

As for men and women of the cloth, the good ones I have known have seldom been connected with the institutional and theological heirarchies, but workers in the field.

josef nix

September 25th, 2010
9:10 am

jt

Loved that Hank III post last p.m. !!!

Hillbilly…
Thanks for the Tom Jones one…still listening to cuts from that CD!

TaxPayer

September 25th, 2010
9:21 am

As some cynics had expected for 20 years, the State Road and Tollway Authority, led by Gov. Sonny Perdue, voted Friday to continue the Ga. 400 tolls until 2020. The vote flies in the face of promises made during the planning of the road that the tolls would come down once the bonds that paid to build it were repaid in 2011.

The toll will stay at 50 cents. Under the new terms, it will run for 10 years from Friday’s vote, SRTA attorney Chris Tomlinson said.

In order to satisfy the original promise that the tolls would come down in 2011, Perdue said, SRTA will see if it can suspend the tolls briefly in 2011. When they resume, he said, they would be a “new” toll.

Wow! Them Republicans sure is good at keeping promises. At least it’s not a tax. It’s a toll.

Hillbilly Deluxe

September 25th, 2010
9:31 am

Sonny is keeping the 400 toll going and King Roy took money from it for Atlantic Station. Six of one, half-dozen of the other.

Nathan Deal is a crook but don’t you reckon he was a crook back when he was a Democrat, too?

larry

September 25th, 2010
9:33 am

And just think, Taxpayer, next year we will have toll lanes on I-85. Right there in place of the HOV lanes.

I-85 was paid for with our taxes
the HOV lanes were built with our tax money
and now the toll lane is being built with our tax money
And then we will pay to use it.

You can thank your local Republican for that. They are going to toll us to death.

Normal

September 25th, 2010
9:48 am

Mornin’ y’al…don’t do no stinkin’ politics, but I want to give the “Other” side a shout out…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pN69GC2amTg

josef nix

September 25th, 2010
9:55 am

hillbilly

“Nathan Deal is a crook but don’t you reckon he was a crook back when he was a Democrat, too?”

Yep. The GOP just offered him a better deal.

Hillbilly Deluxe

September 25th, 2010
10:06 am

josef

Back when Ed Jenkins retired, this was still an all Democrat area, so Deal was a Democrat. When the winds shifted, he switched to a Republican. What politician isn’t an opportunist? :lol:

TaxPayer

September 25th, 2010
10:06 am

You can thank your local Republican for that. They are going to toll us to death.

It’s better than being taxed to death though, I think. Then again, a toll’s just like car insurance. You don’t have to buy it unless you want to get the benefits associated with it and that is in no way, shape or form even remotely like health insurance either. By the way, [Sarc]. Just in case.

Kamchak

September 25th, 2010
10:07 am

TaxPayer

September 25th, 2010
10:13 am

Sonny used to be a Democrat too. Then again, how many Georgia Republicans are not former Democrats. Actually, I think “Dixiecrat” is likely more technically correct. And Phil Gramm, the stepfather of the unregulated derivative (its true father was Enron and Phil was just given the written word to bring down from the mountain and claim as his own), was a Democrat that graduated from UGA.

josef nix

September 25th, 2010
10:20 am

K’chak
@ 10:07

Was always a big fan of the Patti Smith version, but have to admit, I think I like this one even better,

And for the elitists politicians of the day…think about it. Also note the “minor” changes in the original lyrics here for the time and place…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW-sJqO5qDM&feature=related

Hillbilly

That’s the way the game is played and we delude ourselves if we think any differently…been that way ever since we came down out of the trees…

Jay

September 25th, 2010
10:21 am

jt, you’re talking nonsense.

The American sardine industry disappeared because A. Americans don’t eat many sardines, and B., U.S. stocks of sardines had been overfished so that they’re no longer profitable.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/food/2010-04-14-last-sardines_N.htm

But your ploy, and that of the writer at American Thinker, is all too familiar. Even though it is perfectly clear that market forces killed the U.S. sardine industry, you attempt to blame it on government, which had nothing to do with it whatsoever and in fact may have — through better management of fishing stocks — artificially extended its lifespan.

Now let’s deal with the “victims” in your little morality tale. The fishermen in question broke the law. They took more fish than they were legally entitled to take, which ruins the fishing industry for everyone. And when they get caught taking what doesn’t belong to them, it’s government’s fault? When someone robs a bank or steals a car, is that government’s fault too?

You prefer to see the entire world through one prism: If something goes wrong, government caused it. Facts are ignored, distorted or invented, as needed, to support that narrative.

Kamchak

September 25th, 2010
10:27 am

josef

It’s actually a Springsteen song, and Roy Bittan’s piano work on this particular song is unmatched by any other’s.

Natalie, however, is much easier on the eyes.

josef nix

September 25th, 2010
10:29 am

Well, lookie who’s here! And a cheery top o’the mornin’ to ye…

” And when they get caught taking what doesn’t belong to them, it’s government’s fault?”

Unmentionable says it certainly ain’t in the case when it’s the government doing it! :-)

josef nix

September 25th, 2010
10:30 am

K’chak

Did not know it was a Springsteen cut! And I’m only belatedly beginning to appreciate 10,000 maniacs…

Meet The Depressed

September 25th, 2010
10:30 am

‘You prefer to see the entire world through one prism: If something goes wrong, government caused it.”

That’s interesting Jay. For the past nearly 4 years with Democrats running Congress and nearly two years running the White house, all this time I thought it was Bush that caused things to go wrong. Oh wait, Bush WAS government.

Bosch

September 25th, 2010
10:34 am

Hi josef! Was wondering where you were, or maybe you were posting when I wasn’t on. About Nunn, we’ve had this conversation before, but I feel that at the time, Nunn did the best that could be done with DADT. As with most things, a dramatic change doesn’t go over well with a majority of the country, and in the context of the time, I feel he did alot. But there is no reason for DADT now as we’ve evolved as a country to more acceptance. There is no reason for it now.

Glad to see you back!

josef nix

September 25th, 2010
10:38 am

BOSCH

We’ve been on different schedules the last week or so…been having to check out a little early to keep up with the little bitty ones!

I can understand your point of view about evolution and all that, but I’ve already spent a lifetime waiting for the breeders to catch up! :-)

Hillbilly Deluxe

September 25th, 2010
10:39 am

Actually, I think “Dixiecrat” is likely more technically correct.

The Dixiecrat Party lasted part of one year in 1948. So it really has nothing to do with anything. Georgia was solidly Democratic for well over 100 years. That can’t be denied; it was the national party that changed, not the Georgia party. And by the way, in 1948, Georgia went for Truman, the Democrat.

Fruit Salad

September 25th, 2010
10:42 am

And Jay thought jt was stretching the yarn tight enough to play a tune on it:

For the past nearly 4 years with Democrats running Congress and nearly two years running the White house, all this time I thought it was Bush that caused things to go wrong. Oh wait, Bush WAS government.

On a side note, I would have gone for “Meet DePress”… unless you are simply depressed, of course.

josef nix

September 25th, 2010
10:44 am

hillbilly

And as I like to remind people, it was the minions of Uncle Sam’s Oldest colony who were the only ones to vote for Al Smith, the first (gasp!) Catholic to run for the office of President…seems like they were a generation or so ahead of the occupation there…

Besides, I thought we buried the last Dixiecrat with Robert Byrd… :-)

TaxPayer

September 25th, 2010
10:47 am

The Dixiecrat Party lasted part of one year in 1948. So it really has nothing to do with anything.

My condolences to them and their beliefs for dying off in one year like that. Come to think of it, didn’t the Republican party get started about the time that them Dixiecrats broke up and some went back to the Democrats.

Hillbilly Deluxe

September 25th, 2010
10:50 am

didn’t the Republican party get started about the time that them Dixiecrats broke up

No. It dates to the 1850’s.

TaxPayer

September 25th, 2010
10:52 am

josef nix

September 25th, 2010
10:56 am

Dixiecrats? Election of 1960? Hmmm…the SECOND Catholic to run for President…who’s that feller in green?

http://www.historycentral.com/elections/1960state.html

josef nix

September 25th, 2010
10:58 am

hillbilly

“No. It dates to the 1850’s.”

An outgrowth of the No Nothings But ssshhhh, we’re not supposed to talk about “all that!” :-)

Meet The Depressed

September 25th, 2010
11:09 am

“On a side note, I would have gone for “Meet DePress”… unless you are simply depressed, of course.”

Nah, it serves better analogy with the left these days. Speaking of…

Summers gone. The economy still sucks. Who’s going to replace Summers? Rahm “fish eye” Emanuel may step down in Octoberr. Who could ever replace the guy who likes to make 5-year old nanny gestures and fart and laugh about it. Wow, cleaning house so soon Obama?

Soros, the flaming liberal gazillionaire media guru who hates the Right and spends all his money fighting it with propaganda, is having his 2002 conviction in France of insider trading reviewed. Funny, I thought that was only what those evil conservatives did.

Okay everyone who’s jaw dropped at the news that the GA400 toll would be continued for another 10 years please raise your hands. Then put your dunce cap on. We *are* talking about government here. What was that Reagan said? Oh yeah: “there is nothing so permanent as a temporary government program.”

Mick

September 25th, 2010
11:12 am

It’s been very rainy as of late, so all outside activities are put on hold. Here’s an interview that can take your mind off politics for a bit. Sometimes getting sidetracked might be OK-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKfBBBA12Vk&feature=related

Kamchak

September 25th, 2010
11:14 am

What was that Reagan said?

Don’t really care.

Hillbilly Deluxe

September 25th, 2010
11:18 am

josef

And the current Democratic party claims to be the descendants of Jefferson and Jackson. They even have their Jefferson-Jackson Day Dinner. But Jefferson and Jackson were two very different people, with differing views. So which group are the “real Democrats”, the Jacksonians or the Jeffersonians? And who is in charge of deciding that?

BADA BING

September 25th, 2010
11:20 am

On a positive note, Ellen and Portia got married, and Portia took Ellen’s last name. It is refreshing to see that there is at least one traditional, old fashioned marriage left in Hollywood.

josef nix

September 25th, 2010
11:22 am

Hillbilly

Even though I would like to think they are the descendents of Jefferson, sadly they appear to be more the descendents of Jackson. I get tickled with the Jefferson-Jackson dinner…then a quick jump a few decades, the party of Jefferson Davis, ya know…! They had a chance to combine all three with Harry S, but it seems he’s been rejected, too…but ssshhh DADT! :-)

josef nix

September 25th, 2010
11:26 am

BADA BING

The name thing…Unmentionable and I have a running joke on that one if (whenever the breeders catch up with Fierce Advocate in the lead)…his European surname is one of those that everybody would recognize (and yes, it’s the same family!) and mine means, well “nothing!” Jokes aside, though, we would each keep our own surname and embarass just our own! :-)

Hillbilly Deluxe

September 25th, 2010
11:27 am

Okay everyone who’s jaw dropped at the news that the GA400 toll would be continued for another 10 years please raise your hands. Then put your dunce cap on.

Sort of like, when they originally sold the MARTA tax, it was to last 10 years. And I doubt if there is a county anywhere, that hasn’t reneged on promises to end SPLOSTs. That’s one thing that’s truly bi-partisan.

Hillbilly Deluxe

September 25th, 2010
11:29 am

What good are in-laws, if you can’t be an embarrassment to them? :lol:

Time to get off my butt and get busy. This is a song that says an awful lot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TZ-v5BW-pQ

Don't Forget

September 25th, 2010
11:32 am

Well, it’s only a matter of time before the cons try to con us with the notion that bedbugs are returning because of the ban of DDT. Might as well nip that one in the bud.

But long before the United States banned most uses of it in 1972, DDT had lost its effectiveness against bedbugs—which, like many fast-breeding insects, are extremely adept at evolving resistance to pesticides. “Bloggers talk about bringing back DDT,” says Bob Rosenberg, director of government affairs for the National Pest Management Association, “but we had stopped using it even before 1972.”

http://www.newsweek.com/2010/09/08/conservatives-blame-environmentalists-for-bedbugs.html

BADA BING

September 25th, 2010
11:36 am

josef…..I wonder if Ellen sent any email pics of herself in muscle shirts to Portia when they started dating?

Meet The Depressed

September 25th, 2010
11:39 am

“Well, it’s only a matter of time before the cons try to con us with the notion that bedbugs are returning because of the ban of DDT.”

Huh?

Yeah anyway, nothing like being “conned” with an $800 billion dollar “stimulus” bill of which such brilliance in money allocation spends on giving monkeys cocaine, giving money to a town in New York to study homelessness where there are no homeless people, money for building a guard rail around a pond in Oklahoma (except the pond was dried up decades ago), and one of the classics fit for a joke: money for a program to teach men in Africa how to clean their you-know-what after sex.

Now who are the “cons” again?

josef nix

September 25th, 2010
11:39 am

BADA

@ 11:36

:-)

josef nix

September 25th, 2010
11:41 am

Depressed

Where’s Senator Proxmire when you need him!

RW-(the original)

September 25th, 2010
11:43 am

Hillbilly D,

Don’t we generally vote for extensions of SPLOST? It’s the only tax increase I ever vote for.

TaxPayer

September 25th, 2010
11:44 am

Why don’t airplanes have toll routes.

Paulo977

September 25th, 2010
11:50 am

Folks …let’s not try to escape .Let us enjoy the magic in The Circle of Life!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8ZnCT14nRc

Mick

September 25th, 2010
11:52 am

**Yeah anyway, nothing like being “conned” with an $800 billion dollar “stimulus” bill **

Man, you’ve got your head up your wazoo…in reality the stimulus created or saved between 2.5 to 3 million jobs. Think of everything just ONE person needs to consume just for our modern existence. This has a ripple effect throughout the economy. Each state was bailed out and given a chance to get their house in order. Biggest myth, the stimulus was a waste and didn’t do anything – BS….I’m saving the most important fact for last, at least all that money was spent or put into play here in the US – our money for us minus foreign wars, banksters….so to those who rail at the expense consider that the bailout put the money back to the people, private sector included. I have more problems with trillion dollar wars…..

Meet The Depressed

September 25th, 2010
12:04 pm

“Man, you’ve got your head up your wazoo…in reality the stimulus created or saved between 2.5 to 3 million jobs.”

There is not one single benchmark that has ever proven that. The fact that the Obama administration and Congressional Democrats keep changing the phrases (went from created, to created and saved, to now “lives touched.”)

But you want to know reality? When the bill was rammed through Congress (that nobody read) according to Biden it was to prevent unemployment from going above 8%. That was nearly two years ago. Where is it today and $800 billion later? How come people like you won’t address the fraud and waste of it?

And you say I have *my* head up the keister? Oh never mind. You are probably one of those 41% still approving of the Obama administration. Never mind. Sorry to waste your time with facts and reality. Good day.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

September 25th, 2010
12:04 pm

obozo said without Porkulus the unemployment rate would go up to 8% but when he got it unemployment went to 10%, and this is the story of how liberals define success, and they all lived happily ever after, duh.

Today, the wonder in awestruck stupidity why a candidate who owns an airplane would fly more than other candidates.

Probably makes them sleepy just contemplating it all.

Don't Forget

September 25th, 2010
12:19 pm

Depressed, unless you quote your source I have no reason to believe a thing you say.

UnderCovers

September 25th, 2010
12:26 pm

But… but… trillion dollar wars are what protect me from the terrorists that would otherwise come here and have their way with me and then cut off my head and live in my house and drink all my beer… and… .

UnderCovers

September 25th, 2010
12:29 pm

Whining “Reporters” do have a way of putting me to sleep.

Paulo977

September 25th, 2010
12:29 pm

Hillbilly
Deluxe
re:”Wonder”…Indeed…we seem to focus on the negatives don’t we?This was great..Thanks

Mick

September 25th, 2010
1:01 pm

Meet

You are not thinking clearly, nobody said the stimulus was perfect. However, if you just happen to be one of those millions or some of those US private sector contractors, you might be singing a different tune.

Why do they still deliver phone books? Just leave me a disc…..sheesh

Don't Forget

September 25th, 2010
1:38 pm

CBO: Stimulus Lowers Jobless Rate By Up To 1.8 Points

“When the CBO, Congress’s top watchdog and an institution widely-respected on both sides of the aisle, says that because of the Recovery Act as many as 3.3 million Americans are on the job today and the unemployment rate is as much as 1.8 percent lower, it’s impossible for even the most cynical, bent-on-rooting-for-failure critics to deny,” said Biden.

Guess again Joe, the billionaire’s hand puppets don’t care about the facts.

The CBO paper also noted that the price tag for the stimulus plan has been revised to $814 billion from a previous estimate of $862 billion, projected in February 2010. That is still higher than the $787 billion cost assigned to the bill when Congress passed it in February 2009.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2010/08/24/cbo-stimulus-lowers-jobless-rate-by-up-to-18-points/

Mick

September 25th, 2010
2:18 pm

Regarding deficits – we have the greatest advantage no matter what, the world economy plays by our rules. Once that changes, all bets are off. Still we should always be in a position to dictate the terms of the debt.

jt

September 25th, 2010
2:43 pm

Jay————————sorry for a belated retort. You asked.

“When someone robs a bank or steals a car, is that government’s fault too?”

I will answer.

When government TAKES OVER a bank or TAKES OVER a car manufactorer, then your results remain the same…..Grand Theft Production.

Furthermore, I like sardines.

You sir,……………. are living in a fantasy world if you think that government had nothing to do with the closing of the LAST SARDINE CANNERY in AMERICA.
The “free market” has nothing to do with the NOAA thugs, federal regulations, and at least 1 EEOC lawyer for every 3 sardine workers. This is called a “managed or centralized market”. Stalin or Castro can enlighten you.

A modern day Steinbeck would have wrote about “Poverty Row”.

Check THIS out……………….We are from the government and we are here to help. Evenb if we have to stomp your head into the ground.——————

NEW YORK (AP) – President Barack Obama’s $30 billion small community business lending program faces one big challenge: many of the community banks and businesses it’s supposed to help don’t want it.

Bank executives say their customers don’t want loans, even at low interest rates, because the sluggish economy has chilled expansion plans. Some say the federal money isn’t worth it because they fear it will come with too much regulatory oversight.

“We have taken a strategic decision not to have our primary regulator, the government, also be a partner in our bank,” said William Chase Jr., CEO of Triumph Bank in Memphis.”

I would bank with that guy. Hell, I would vote for him for president.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20100925/D9IEME2G0.html

josef nix

September 25th, 2010
2:53 pm

jt

Anywhere the government gets a foot in the door, a mess of bureaucrats is sure to follow and another rain forest in the Third World bites the dust. My own paperwork has quadrupled since NCLB and all we’ve got to show for the effort is less time spent teaching the little ones to produce on a standardized test. That scandalous fiasco scandal of cheating on the test scores is a direct outgrowth of pleasing the bureaucrats. What makes us think that banking would be any different?

Jay

September 25th, 2010
2:58 pm

If you had read — or perhaps remembered — Steinbeck’s “Cannery Row,” jt, you would know that those sardine canneries in California closed for the same reason the one did in Maine: Overfishing. They cleaned out one of the greatest sardine fisheries in the world, and thus ran afoul of Rule No. 1 of sardine canneries:

You need sardines.

And no, that’s not a government rule.

So in the end, you didn’t rebut my point. You proved it. Everything becomes government’s fault, even when it is demonstrably not.

josef nix

September 25th, 2010
3:05 pm

Well, if we’re going to bring the great Steinbeck into the picture…I don’t think he’d be much more impressed with the government now than he was then. I think he’d go for turning it over to Tortilla Flat’s wh*rehouse madame. “who had a taste for lime green evening dresses and ran an honest, one-price house.” No elitist, she! :-)

jt

September 25th, 2010
3:08 pm

Jay

You don’t “clean out” sardines. They come and go. I did’nt know you were such a marine biologist.

All I know, is that the next time that you are in the mystery meat section of your local market, and you reach for that can of double-layered goodness,……………..

be aware……………

it came from 10,000 miles away.

Thank your local lawyer, your local fully-costumed federal agent, your local democrat, and your local RINO.

I do suppose Monkfish have as much right to live as us.

Also watch the price.

jt

September 25th, 2010
3:11 pm

josef nix

I hear you.

Quick question/trivia?

What was the ONLY confederate GOVERNOR who actually led troops into battle? (Governors, like any politician, were generally hated back during the late unpleasantness).

josef nix

September 25th, 2010
3:15 pm

jt
Can’t recall the governor…who was it?

And Steinbeck’s solutions? The Short Reign of Pippin IV…I could be a contender!

Mick

September 25th, 2010
3:15 pm

I hate sardines and could care less where they came from now or then…

josef nix

September 25th, 2010
3:23 pm

MICK

“I hate sardines and could care less where they came from now or then…”

I’m with you on that one…bleeech! Among our post nuptial agreements was that that so-called foodstuff would be consumed by him only on a fishbank, downstream and downwind from me!

Kamchak

September 25th, 2010
3:26 pm

The orange pekoe folks are a-gonna make the same choice mistake as the Goldwater neo-cons.

September 21, 2010Many leaders of the Tea Party movement would have you believe theirs is a secular movement, one based on a free-market vision of the economy forged in the fires of our nation’s founding documents. But with control of the Congress up for grabs this November, the secular veil is growing a bit tattered in the tussle for power between Tea Party and religious right leaders. If the speakers at last weekend’s Values Voters Summit, an annual Washington conference for religious-right activists, have anything to say about it, Tea Party personalities had better drop that secular talk and walk slowly, with their hands up, toward the church door.

Why call ‘em the Tea Party?

Just call ‘em Republicans.

jt

September 25th, 2010
3:27 pm

josef nix———-

Ask and you shall recieve. I didn’t know it either.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJADponG3QY

Mick—————-

The cubanos know of this. You don’t know what you are missing. I them once in Miami. Mostly in Spain.

http://www.tasteofbeirut.com/2010/07/fried-sardines/

Mick

September 25th, 2010
3:30 pm

**The cubanos know of this.**

That doesn’t impress me. I prefer italian american. Sardines are non existant to me, I prefer M&M’s over them.

jt

September 25th, 2010
3:31 pm

Kamchak ———–

Can’t wait until the Tea Party/Republicans gain control.

That way, ya’ll can start biatching about the wars and gitmo again.

I believe that ya’ll will breath a big sigh of relief.

Default to a caring irrelevance.

Pennsylvanian

September 25th, 2010
3:33 pm

Mick @ 3:15 – “I hate sardines and could care less where they came from now or then…”

To say you could care less means you care, at least some. I think you mean ‘couldn’t care less’? Hannity makes that same mistake all the time. You are a Hannity listener?

josef nix

September 25th, 2010
3:39 pm

jt
@ 3.27

Now I know why my memory was being jogged…I didn’t know he was the only one…but I did know about his connection with Carthage…are you familiar with Belle Starr’s connection thereto?

Mick

September 25th, 2010
3:41 pm

Pennsylvanian

What is this blog editing 101? Let me tell you a couple of three things, I don’t really give a damn…

Pennsylvanian

September 25th, 2010
3:42 pm

Just wanted to point out your comment was stupid. You are welcome.

josef nix

September 25th, 2010
3:44 pm

Pennsylvanian

Speaking as a linguist, the grammatical formation as you outline is correct. However, it has been used so long and so often, it has achieved idiom status…I tend to stay out of these little snipes, though, since I make plenty of my own and so do the rest of us…even our blog meister who still insists that the contracted second person informal pronoun is “ya’ll.” :-)

josef nix

September 25th, 2010
3:45 pm

BTW

Does Hannity make the mistake “all the time” or “frequently and repeatedly?” :-)

Pennsylvanian

September 25th, 2010
3:48 pm

josef nix – My big concern here is that libs do not get associated with the same ‘idioms’ as that blowhard Hannity. Just looking out for y’all.

jt

September 25th, 2010
3:49 pm

josef nix

I am not familiar with Belle Starr’s connection.

Can you imagine Jesse James, Samuel Clemens, and the Fox being in the same pub at one time?

It could have happened. Samuel was a smart one. He got the hell out of there.

Pennsylvanian

September 25th, 2010
3:50 pm

You are correct – it is frequently and repeatedly. See, I can be civil. Why does Mick get all huffy? Thin skin?

Mick

September 25th, 2010
3:53 pm

Pennsylvanian

Someday, just maybe it will happen and you might rise above your immature manners.

Jay

September 25th, 2010
3:54 pm

jt writes: “You don’t “clean out” sardines. They come and go.”

Earlier in this debate, I noted that for those who prefer to blame government for everything, “Facts are ignored, distorted or invented, as needed, to support that narrative.”

jt just provided us an example of that very phenomenon, inventing facts as needed to sustain his unsustainable argument. Here are the historic facts:

The take for the (West Coast) sardine industry reached its peak in the
1936-37 season when 790,000 tons of sardines were removed from the
waters near British Columbia, Washington, Oregon, and California.
This amount was many times the amount that scientists recently
estimated to be the maximum sustainable yield of 250,000 tons. It
is held by ecologists that if the maximum sustainable yield of
250,000 to 300,000 tons per year had been observed, the sardine
industry would still be viable…..

In the early 1950’s the bottom fell out of the California
sardine industry. There is a significant amount of research that
suggests that over fishing of the California sardine had
significantly changed the age structure of the population. Without
a significant amount of reproductive aged adults the sardine was
unable to maintain its numbers as fishing continued. Research
points to the failed spawnings of 1949 and 1950 as the cause of the
collapse of the sardine population in the pacific North America.
Since the age range of the population had been altered, the
failures in reproduction in those two years were critical and
resulted in a serious decline in the quantity of the species. There
were no longer sufficent reproductive class populations to continue
the population. The failed spawnings of those years would not have
been so critical had the sardine been fished at sustainable levels.”

From American University, http://www1.american.edu/TED/sardine.HTM

Don't Forget

September 25th, 2010
3:57 pm

In 1950, there were 46 sardine plants in Maine. Global competition, changing palates and production efficiencies have contributed to the fall of canneries, but hopes are high that baby boomers will take to sardines’ health benefits and pump up future sales. Most of the US supply is from domestic catches of Atlantic herring – 179.9 million pounds worth $14.1 million in 2004, and Pacific sardines, at 198.9 million pounds valued at $10.4 million, according to National Marine Fisheries Service date.

http://www.napoleon-co.com/pages/product_pages/sardines.html

Blaming the government for the industry decline is just another con from the conservatives.

Kamchak

September 25th, 2010
3:59 pm

Extinct is forever.

josef nix

September 25th, 2010
4:01 pm

Penn…

Libs don’t what? Our President consistently uses the comparative and superlative of “unique.”

jt

Her family was burned out and several of her civilian relatives killed during the puniative attack on Carthage. Unbeknowst to many, she was a trained classical concert pianist, knew Greek, Latin and Hebrew, spoke French and Spanish and later learned Cherokee when she refugeed to Indian Territory and took up residence, and later citizenship, in the Cherokee Nation, having married into the Starr family. The Starrs were, and are, a prominent family of highly educated individuals. She took to her “life of crime,” so to speak, during the occupation in response to the draconian “reconstruction” measures being implemented against the Indians there which, in turn, gave rise to the federal genocide against the Western Tribes…

Have you seen “Ride with the Devil” or read Woodall’s “The Woe to Live On” on which it was based?

jt

September 25th, 2010
4:04 pm

Jay

OMG.

“There is a significant amount of research that
suggests that over fishing of the California sardine had
significantly changed the age structure of the population. ”

CALIFORNIA sardines don’t hold government aurthurized ID’s.

As opposed to CHILEAN sardines?
Jay also posted …………..

” It
is held by ecologists that if the maximum sustainable yield of
250,000 to 300,000 tons per year had been observed, the sardine
industry would still be viable…..”

The same ecologists that brings you global warming doom and gloom or the ones that are “captured” by the industry?

I think Jay likes sardines and he is finally seeing the results of a centralized authoritarian economy.

IMHO of course.

stands for decibels

September 25th, 2010
4:10 pm

I have not yet heard the Sound Opinions podcast about sophomore (2nd album) successes.

I did have about 20 hours since my last post on the topic, wherein I did some thinkin’.

Here is my submission for finest Sophomore Success: Roxy Music’s For Your Pleasure lp, their second, and their last with Brian Eno. Here’s arguably the coolest track from the album, performed live live livety live:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykDr32qvmLg&ob=av2n

And yes, you get to see Eno soloing on synth. Along with all the rest of the Roxyies.

“learn from your mistakes is my only advise.”

Pennsylvanian

September 25th, 2010
4:11 pm

josef nix – Our President consistently uses the comparative and superlative of “unique.” Our President is also consistently FOS. Don’t you just love it when the POTUS says the mandate to buy health care insurance is ‘absolutely not a tax’, then the Justice Department defends the mandate as a form of taxation?

josef nix

September 25th, 2010
4:21 pm

Pennsylvanian

Well, our President does seem to think he’s a Fierce Advocate! You did hear about the Mohawk tribal leader who was calling him Walking Turkey, didn’t you? Asked why, he said, that was his tribal name. Why that? “Oh, that bird’s so full of sh*t he can’t fly!”

jt

September 25th, 2010
4:23 pm

JoNix–

Have you seen “Ride with the Devil” or read Woodall’s “The Woe to Live On” on which it was based?

I have not. I will.

Check this one out. A good ole Missislopinan, a Georgian, and a Floridian were the founders of the Polish Air Force.

A Question of Honor: The Kosciuszko Squadron:

http://www.amazon.com/Question-Honor-Kosciuszko-Squadron-Forgotten/dp/037572625X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1285445909&sr=1-1-spell