Illegal immigration down sharply; immigration hysteria up sharply

From the Wall Street Journal:

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Illegal immigration to the U.S. has slowed sharply since 2007, with the bleak U.S. job market apparently discouraging people from heading north.

The influx of illegal immigrants plunged to an estimated 300,000 annually between March 2007 and 2009, from 850,000 a year between March 2000 and March 2005, according to new study released Wednesday by the Pew Hispanic Center, a nonpartisan research group.

The decline contributed to a contraction in the overall size of the undocumented population to 11 million people in March 2009 from a peak of 12 million two years earlier, according to the Pew analysis, which is based on data from the Census Bureau.

The news comes as the Obama administration continues to tighten border security (assigning National Guard units to assist border patrols, and increasing drone flights) and more aggressive enforcement of laws preventing the hiring of illegal immigrants. As the Dallas Morning News reports, “removals from the U.S. interior have steadily climbed. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials have said their goal is to expel a record 400,000 people for the fiscal year ending this month.

All that said, the dismal economy has no doubt had a much bigger impact on cutting illegal immigration than anything that the federal government or the Obama administration has done. It has always been about jobs; as long as U.S. firms were gonna hire them, the immigrants were gonna come. The hiring has largely stopped, the inflow has largely stopped.

However, the unsurprising news that illegal immigration has slowed to a relative trickle — and that the total population of illegal immigrants has declined — highlight the fact that the overheated rhetoric about the administration “abandoning American soveriegnty” on the border and the passage of a draconian Arizona law (also backed by both gubernatorial candidates here in Georgia) all lack a cause in actual fact.

The problem is much less serious than it ever was, the federal government is doing more than it ever did, yet to hear the rhetoric the sky is falling and the country is collapsing and the world is coming to an end at the hands of illegal immigrants. I can’t remember a time in which hysteria so dominated the American political scene.

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The Leg Lamp is a "major award", much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel

September 2nd, 2010
8:38 am

OHIO 2010: Bush 50, Obama 42…

The Leg Lamp is a "major award", much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel

September 2nd, 2010
8:38 am

Sheriff: ‘Mexican drug cartels control parts of Arizona’…

Guess the sheriff is caught up in the “hysteria”.

The Leg Lamp is a "major award", much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel

September 2nd, 2010
8:41 am

Jay,

Not trying to start an argument her, but when you say the Pew Hispanic Center is “a nonpartisan research group”, what do you base that on? I don’t know anything about them, but when they call themselves the Pew “Hispanic” Center it leads me to believe they might have a bit of a slant. Maybe I’m wrong.

The Leg Lamp is a "major award", much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel

September 2nd, 2010
8:44 am

“I can’t remember a time in which hysteria so dominated the American political scene.”

I have to agree with you there, Jay, those “climate change” fanatics work themselves into a frenzy. :)

Peadawg

September 2nd, 2010
8:46 am

Keep up the good work but don’t waste time on “comprehensive immigration reform.” Just keep enforcing our laws that are already in place.

USinUK

September 2nd, 2010
8:46 am

“Illegal immigration to the U.S. has slowed sharply since 2007, with the bleak U.S. job market apparently discouraging people from heading north.”

… which is why I continue to say, if you want to reduce illegal immigration, go after the a-holes that knowingly HIRE them. it’s all about economics – no job, no flight across the border.

The Leg Lamp is a "major award", much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel

September 2nd, 2010
8:49 am

USinUK
September 2nd, 2010
8:46 am

Agreed. And it’s not even 9AM here.

Scout

September 2nd, 2010
8:50 am

Jay:

Cynthia yesterday : “Fewer illegal immigrants, but more anti-immigrant fury”
Bookman today : “Illegal immigration down sharply; immigration hysteria up sharply”

You guys have GOT to start coordinating. PLEASE …….. you’re wearing us out.

USinUK

September 2nd, 2010
8:53 am

leg – 8:49 – we should call it a day! ;-)

Scout

September 2nd, 2010
8:53 am

Jay:

Now ……….. I tell you the same thing as I did Cynthia yesterday:

This is what you wrote ………

“Illegal immigration down sharply; immigration hysteria up sharply”

This is what you should have written ……..

“Illegal immigration down sharply; ILLEGAL immigration hysteria up sharply”

No one minds LEGAL immigration.

The Leg Lamp is a "major award", much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel

September 2nd, 2010
8:53 am

Scout
September 2nd, 2010
8:50 am

What’s the problem? Very few people read Tucker.

AmVet

September 2nd, 2010
8:55 am

Yep, the one silver lining of the BushCo-orchestrated corporate destruction of capitalism.

Now all those konservative kids of the Personal Responsibility Party can go out and pick lettuce and clean houses.

Just like their parents are gonna be doing real soon…

The Leg Lamp is a "major award", much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel

September 2nd, 2010
8:55 am

I know this is off topic, but you just gotta love the headline:

“Chicago gangs hold news conference: Say they’re being ‘harassed’ by police… “

The Leg Lamp is a "major award", much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel

September 2nd, 2010
8:56 am

AmVet
September 2nd, 2010
8:55 am

……and then, gloom and destruction took hold.

TaxPayer

September 2nd, 2010
8:57 am

You see! Obama has cut illegal immigration by more than half since taking office. And if it had not been for Bush and the Republicans, we would not have had the problem to begin with. Scout should bow to Obama for doing such an excellent job.

The Leg Lamp is a "major award", much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel

September 2nd, 2010
8:59 am

I’m sure the “save the whates” crowd were included in the discussion of what to do.

“Australian officials used explosives to blow up a terminally ill humpback whale that became stranded on a beach near Perth two weeks ago.”

Eeeeewwww!

The Leg Lamp is a "major award", much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel

September 2nd, 2010
9:00 am

faux TaxPayer
September 2nd, 2010
8:57 am

I didn’t realize illegal immigration begain in January 2001. Hmmmm.

Scout

September 2nd, 2010
9:01 am

Taxpayer:

Sorry …………….

Arizona’s law and 22 other states tyring to pass the same thing is what has illegals running to the border. “El Jefe” is trying to do everything he can to keep them here including “back-door” amnesty.

Normal

September 2nd, 2010
9:03 am

So, now that we have become economically Third World, when are we going to get the jobs back from China, India, Tiawan, etc?

Scout

September 2nd, 2010
9:03 am

The Leg Lamp is a “major award”, much like Cynthia Tucker’s Pulitzer and Obama’s Nobel @ 8:55

The next thing you know, Obama will be having them for a beer in the Rose Garden.

USinUK

September 2nd, 2010
9:03 am

Leg – 8:55 – :lol: quick! someone hold a vigil for them! wear a colored ribbon in their honor!

thanks for the laugh – that’s a good one

TaxPayer

September 2nd, 2010
9:04 am

I didn’t realize illegal immigration begain in January 2001. Hmmmm.

“Begain” Is that like starting out with more, as opposed to “beloss”. Hmmmm. By the way, feel free to show your work regarding where you came up with this notion of when illegal immigration began.

Normal

September 2nd, 2010
9:05 am

Scout

September 2nd, 2010
9:01 am

Proof please.

Scout

September 2nd, 2010
9:06 am

If you don’t keep up with the news, I’m not doing your work for you.

Scout

September 2nd, 2010
9:06 am

P.S.

“Proof” doesn’t matter to a liberal anyway ……… you guys run on emotion.

Paul

September 2nd, 2010
9:06 am

Maybe people didn’t see much done/followed through during the previous administration, they haven’t seen much follow-through by the current administration, they see local efforts at enforcement condemned by the administration and think that once the economy recovers they’ll be right back where they were? Not saying it’s so just wondering about perceptions.

“the passage of a draconian Arizona law”

Draconian? I understood it closely mirrors federal law, main point of contention being local enforcement?

Some said Arizona’s law would lead to racial profiling. Seems ICE has had an effort underway on passenger trains near the Canadian border. Agents walk through the trains and ask people for their identification. Unlike Arizona’s law, the agents don’t have to do it in conjunction with suspicion of a crime. Just ask people. I wonder…. do they ask 100 percent of the passengers or only some? If some, well golly, what criteria do they use?

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/30/nyregion/30border.html

Another thing I think border citizens are concerned with: local costs associated with illegals. Estimates vary all over, up to hundreds of millions of dollars a year, not covered by federal funds. So… for people in nonborder states who think it’s no big deal… they could show how overblown concerns are by having their state reimburse the border states for their costs. Heck, they could even use the lower estimates. That way it’d be only a few hundred million dollars.

TaxPayer

September 2nd, 2010
9:07 am

Who’s “El Jefe”, Scout. Is that one of your drinking buddies.

AmVet

September 2nd, 2010
9:07 am

So there’s goes yet another c0ckamamie con theory down the toilet – that JB only bans right wingers for being louts. Alas, that fact doesn’t help their Cult of Victimhood much though. (Seeya landry!)

“Very few people read Tucker Wingfiled.

Fyt.

The guy is running a conservative blogging morgue! Just like Wooten’s was and is. Tucker often gets more posts in an hour than Kyle does in a day. Of course having the ever-lovely Grand Forks/LA (retard!) over there has got to hurt his already anemic numbers. Who wants to deal with that boor?

USinUK

September 2nd, 2010
9:07 am

Normal – 9:05 – yeah. good luck with that. :roll:

TaxPayer

September 2nd, 2010
9:08 am

If you don’t keep up with the news, I’m not doing your work for you.

You could share the specs for that tin foil hat of yours so we could pick up the same broadcasts.

USinUK

September 2nd, 2010
9:08 am

both 9:06 posts … more evidence that Scout’s “source” can be located via a high colonoscopy.

AmVet

September 2nd, 2010
9:08 am

“Very few people read Tucker Wingfiled.

Redact to read, “Very few people read Tucker Wingfield.”

AmVet

September 2nd, 2010
9:09 am

Oh never mind! Might be one of those days when I need a third cup of coffee!

joe

September 2nd, 2010
9:10 am

Don’t you consult with her highness, CT, before you write your posts? She had the same one late yesterday. I didn’t comment there, but will here. Whether or not the overall number is down, or if the rate is slowing, doesn’t matter much. We still have to pay for the ones who are here in too many ways. If you watch the new show border wars on Nat Geo channel, you’ll see there are drug cartels, drug runners, human traffickers and illegals crossing the rio grande ever day (the latest episode aired last night).

Until the border is sealed and the illegals here deported (or apply for citizenship the legal way), this crisis will not be over.

Road Scholar

September 2nd, 2010
9:10 am

USinUK: Good afternoon!

US,Peadawg; ” if you want to reduce illegal immigration, go after the a-holes that knowingly HIRE them.”

Exactly. Hire additional investigaters and fine the employers of illegals, then maybe it will stop. Also, I disagree with we don’t need reforms. What about the illegals already here that are law biding (mostly) and have contributed to country? A clearer path to citizenship should be defined. If you want to stay here, get a visa, and have a time period where they can become citizens. If not Delta is ready when yu are! Any one with a shady past, Adios!

Maybe we should deport those who hire illegals?

Is’nt it interesting that our “law biding citizens” are breaking the law by hiring illegals, not paying their taxes, cheating their employers and investors…. but yet the whining continues? I guess some can justify anything.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

September 2nd, 2010
9:11 am

Well, looks like we got to get the economy going again so the folks with the money can hire more of that cheap labor. This is what happens when you make folks pay 7 or 8 bucks a hour to hire somebody. These Socialists won’t stop till all the illegals give up and go home in disgust.

Have a good day everybody.

Granny Godzilla

September 2nd, 2010
9:11 am

Wow! Blog Deja Vu…..I haz it.

Kamchak

September 2nd, 2010
9:11 am

I didn’t realize illegal immigration begain[sic] in January 2001. Hmmmm.

The border became porous in 1986 with St. Ronnie of the Raygun’s amnesty.

Vickie

September 2nd, 2010
9:13 am

BS with no proof existing

USinUK

September 2nd, 2010
9:14 am

Hi Road –

if I can add one more item to your list … there also needs to be serious reform to the E2 Visa. These are people who go to the US legally, set up businesses that hire US citizens, but who are harassed by the State department every couple of years to provide evidence that their businesses are in the black, etc. There doesn’t seem to be a “you must demonstrate xx% profitability” – it is at the discretion of the investigator. Folks who have been in the US legally for 10 – 20 – 30 years can be deported if they happen to have a down year.

TaxPayer

September 2nd, 2010
9:16 am

If it were not for the outrageously high minimum wage, perhaps corporations would be hiring more folks. Well, there’s that plus taxes and regulations. And big government. What we need on the border with Mexico are “Freedom fighters”. Those are folks that fight for free because we don’t want no taxes being collected to pay for ‘em. And besides that, why should folks from all fifty states be asked to pay to protect the borders of states that want to secede anyway.

Normal

September 2nd, 2010
9:17 am

No proof, no cred.

Jimmy62

September 2nd, 2010
9:17 am

Yes, we’re all just a bunch of hysterical nutcases.

If the government refuses to enforce laws it just doesn’t feel like enforcing, then what’s next? What if they decided they just don’t feel like enforcing the laws against murder? There are laws, they are there for a reason, and a government that decides to ignore a law you don’t like might decide to ignore a law you do like next time. If we’re not allowed to hold them accountable for following or not following written laws, then we in fact are merely slaves of the state which can do whatever it wants whenever it wants.

Next time someone tells me I’m racist or a bigot for wanting laws to be followed, they are going to get punched. Perhaps I will get lucky and the government will decide to ignore the laws against assault and battery.

USinUK

September 2nd, 2010
9:20 am

“And besides that, why should folks from all fifty states be asked to pay to protect the borders of states that want to secede anyway.”

dude! talk about burying the lede …

Vickie

September 2nd, 2010
9:20 am

Too bad the dismal economy doesn’t slow down the Latina baby makers cranking out new little citizens that plug them into lifetime welfare at our expense. They don’t slow down from the minute their wombs get over the border. They have either just delivered, or they are not showing yet. I know; I work in a public health facility where they are crawling like ants. None of them could be legal citizens because they are uneducated and unskilled. Do we really need to import millions of welfare class people?

Big D

September 2nd, 2010
9:21 am

News Flash…
White House aides attribute Congress and Obama’s dramatic fall in popularity to “political cycles” LMAO…every now and then we elect absolutely stupid and clueless people to office…if you want to call that a cycle…

Jimmy62

September 2nd, 2010
9:22 am

Mexico is in chaos, and it’s the fault of our ridiculous drug laws. Want a humanitarian cause? Help save an entire country by legalizing marijuana use in the United States. Anyone that supports keeping pot illegal might as well be saying, “I support the killing of lots of innocent Mexicans!”

Normal

September 2nd, 2010
9:22 am

Jimmy62…two words…less caffeine…

Southern Comfort

September 2nd, 2010
9:23 am

UnU

All the working class visas, E’s, H’s, and L’s need to be reformed. People are still viewing illegal immigration with a bias towards Hispanics. Just because Hispanic numbers are down doesn’t mean that other nationalities have cut back on attempted illegal entries. It’s a good think that my colleagues and I don’t hold our breaths collectively to await on the approval of the general population.

TaxPayer

September 2nd, 2010
9:24 am

I could have a field day with Vickie’s 9:20 post but I best abort that idea.

Union

September 2nd, 2010
9:24 am

jm

September 2nd, 2010
9:25 am

OFF Topic – but since Iraq is is a frequent subject of debate among this crew, I thought I’d share the interview with Tony Blair from NPR today, for anyone who hasn’t heard it.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2010/09/01/129580726/tony-blair-a-journey-my-political-life-interview-morning-edition-memoir

Hoof Hearted

September 2nd, 2010
9:25 am

Paul, I think the key difference between what the border patrol is doing on trains at the Canadian border and what the Arizona law allows local officials to do is that on the trains, those folks are crossing the border. Any time you enter this country, you subject yourself to scrutiny, searches, etc. The Arizona law allows law enforcement to question and detain anyone (anywhere in the state) who the officer believes is in the country illegally. So, in Arizona, you could be looking at the Grand Canyon almost 300 miles from the border, and you could be questioned and detained about whether you are legally in the country.

I agree with you that the time do something to correct our immigration problem (illegal and legal) is now, when the problem isn’t as bad. I’ve never subscribed to the idea that “well, it’s not a problem at this very moment, so we don’t need to worry about it.” However, this belief does not extend to everything (i.e. anti-microchip legislation passed by Georgia legislature)!

Southern Comfort

September 2nd, 2010
9:25 am

Vickie

Do you have a problem when the Asians, Indians, Africans, or Europeans drop their babies in this country, or is it only the “uneducated and unskilled” Hispanics that concern you?

Union

September 2nd, 2010
9:26 am

@@

September 2nd, 2010
9:26 am

So what…..if Obama destroys it (the economy), they won’t come? Makes sense.

Yeah, Obama! Boo, us!

Bosch

September 2nd, 2010
9:26 am

“Maybe we should deport those who hire illegals?”

Road Scholar,

Or shut down their business if they are caught more than once. Hit them where it actually hurts.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

“The border became porous in 1986 with St. Ronnie of the Raygun’s amnesty.”

Kamchak, that is so true — just another example of how the wingnuts yell and scream about things, when in essence, it’s their own leaders who actually do the things they supposedly hate.

jm

September 2nd, 2010
9:28 am

Data accuracy on immigration: 0%.

No one knows how many illegal immigrants are here. That’s a 1/4 of the problem….

The Leg Lamp is a "major award", much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel

September 2nd, 2010
9:30 am

TaxPayer
September 2nd, 2010
9:04 am

My bad. In an earlier post you seemed to have alluded to the immigration problem happening on Bush’s watch. I was sarcastically expressing my surprise to the notion that it began once he took office. Feel better now?

jm

September 2nd, 2010
9:30 am

Random trivia of the day: Vietnam has a population greater than any individual country in Europe. Who knew?

Big D

September 2nd, 2010
9:31 am

Southern Comfort….
I would think Vickie is referring to the VOLUME of Hispanic ILLEGAL border jumpers.
If you are going to try and make an argument at least think it through and keep it within this decade.

Bosch

September 2nd, 2010
9:32 am

Question for the wingnuts:

When you see a Hispanic person do you automatically assume they are illegal? Be honest.

Bosch

September 2nd, 2010
9:33 am

Sorry, make that,

“they are HERE illegally?”

Of course, they themselves are not illegal.

Southern Comfort

September 2nd, 2010
9:33 am

Big D

I am an immigration officer. I have more knowledge about this topic than Vickie. She’s going off of what the media reports and sensationalizes. I’m going from what I know from work. Any other questions or statements?

Big D

September 2nd, 2010
9:34 am

Bosch and Kam…
Can we just once try to keep our references to the decade we are living in…just because you pooped your pants when you were two should I believe you will have an accident today.

AmVet

September 2nd, 2010
9:34 am

SoCo, the worst of these chest pounding neo-con bigots do NOT give a flying ____ about illegal immigration.

But they give a big one about LATINO and BROWN-SKINNED illegal immigration.

If you’re a Pole or Irishman or Lithuanian or Japanese, they could Acre less. After all those people are “Taking American jobs”!

Prepare the fainting couches…

jm

September 2nd, 2010
9:35 am

Fact: No one has an even approximate idea how many illegal immigrants are in the US. Ranges are from 7 million to 20 million. See reference.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0516/p01s02-ussc.html

TaxPayer

September 2nd, 2010
9:36 am

Feel better now?

I got nothin’ against sarcasm. I use it often myself. If only it came in tube form like Head On, I could simply apply it directly to the forehead as often as needed.

Paul

September 2nd, 2010
9:36 am

jm 9:25

From earlier this morning:

From the Associated Press:

“He calls Bush intelligent, a friend and “a true idealist.”

“I was asked recently which of the political leaders I had met had most integrity: I listed George near the top,” Blair says.”

Intelligent… integrity.

Always interesting to hear the assessment of those not caught up in our domestic politics.

(USinUK – saw your response. Kinda figured that’d be your take!)

Big D

September 2nd, 2010
9:36 am

SC…yea, please enlighten us with the figures pertaining to all the illegals from said countries compared to Hispanics.

Bosch

September 2nd, 2010
9:37 am

AmVet,

Yeap, I think that most of the chest pounding wingnuts here wouldn’t mind so much if a buxom Swedish babe lived next door and they knew her to be here illegally.

Southern Comfort

September 2nd, 2010
9:37 am

jm

Do you know why people don’t have an idea of how many there are?

Jay

September 2nd, 2010
9:37 am

Jimmy62, you open your argument by taking offense at the notion that you’re hysterical, and close it by threatening to punch people.

In politics, they call that stepping on your own message.

TaxPayer

September 2nd, 2010
9:38 am

Bosch and Kamchak,

Darn that history! It can be such an inconvenient truth at times.

Bosch

September 2nd, 2010
9:39 am

“In politics, they call that stepping on your own message.”

Jay, can we call that here too? Like when people demand a civil debate and to stop the name calling followed by calling you a jack ass?

Paul

September 2nd, 2010
9:40 am

Hoof Hearted

“I think the key difference between what the border patrol is doing on trains at the Canadian border and what the Arizona law allows local officials to do is that on the trains, those folks are crossing the border. ”

When I first heard about this that’s what I thought, too. But as the article points out, the example was the regular train run from Chicago to NYC. And it said this is regularly done on passenger trains within 100 miles of the border. Not originating in Canada.

Then there’s that pesky question of, if ICE stops ALL passengers, or just some and if some what are the criteria?

Amazing how Arizona got all the ‘what if’ attention and the feds got none for ‘hey guys, guess what we’re doing right now?’ situation.

Southern Comfort

September 2nd, 2010
9:41 am

Big D

There is no way to produce concrete figures pertaining to ANY demographic. All people are tossing around is estimates. There is no counter that counts the number of people who cross the border illegally. Most figures for illegal immigrants do not count the number of people who enter the US legally and overstay their visas or never leave. There’s a class of visitors who do not need a visa to enter the US. The countrys that don’t need a visa participate in the Visa Waiver program. I’m sure the number of overstays in the Visa Waiver program are not included in any counts of illegal immigrants either. The majority of those countries are European Union countries.

Bosch

September 2nd, 2010
9:41 am

“Darn that history! It can be such an inconvenient truth at times.”

Taxpayer,

Well, that’s easy to get around — if you are a wingnut, you can just revise it to fit your poutrages, and not admit that it’s your own political leaders who are responsible for them.

Paul

September 2nd, 2010
9:42 am

Hoof Hearted

“The Arizona law allows law enforcement to question and detain anyone (anywhere in the state) who the officer believes is in the country illegally.”

I haven’t checked this morning but I seen to recall Arizona amended their law to specifically prohibit this.

Union

September 2nd, 2010
9:43 am

just for fun.. get a blue windbreaker with ICE on it.. when you see a large group of hispanics on a corner waiting for work.. stop and jump out.

USinUK

September 2nd, 2010
9:44 am

Paul – 9:36 – he was a horrible PM both before Bush and after him, for reasons not always linked to him, just to be clear that my opinions regarding Blair’s integrity (or lack thereof) have nothing to do with my opinions of Bush.

Southern Comfort

September 2nd, 2010
9:45 am

Big D

To continue, did you know that if a person enters the US on a tourist visa, they become an illegal immigrant if they violate that status by accepting work or anything else that would invalidate their status. How would you know to count them?

Bosch

September 2nd, 2010
9:45 am

Okay, I’ll revise:

Question for those on the right:

When you see a Hispanic person do you automatically assume they are here illegally? Be honest.

Wonder if anyone will answer it now.

The Leg Lamp is a "major award", much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel

September 2nd, 2010
9:45 am

A lot of “hysteria” from bloggers about which illegal immigrants conservatives focus on. AmVet rants about “cons” only being concerned over Lation and brown-skinned immigrants. Jay refers to the Pew Hispanic poll as a non-partisan group and seems to trust their numbers. Here’s some data from that same group.

“The illegal immigrant population of the United States in 2008 was estimated by the Center for Immigration Studies to be about 11 million people, down from 12.5 million people in 2007. According to a Pew Hispanic Center report, in 2005, 57% of illegal immigrants were from Mexico; 24% were from other Latin American countries, primarily from Central America; 9% were from Asia; 6% were from Europe; and 4% were from the rest of the world.”

First, notice the number dropped BEFORE the Messiah took office.

Based on this non-partisan group’s work, 81% of the illegal immigrants are from Mexico and other Latin American countries. So you libs are bashing conservative Americans who are concerned about 81% of the illegal immigrants? The sky is always falling for the libs.

TaxPayer

September 2nd, 2010
9:46 am

Everyone knows that if there’s ICE on the tracks, it’s gonna stop all the passengers, unless they choose to get out and walk.

jm

September 2nd, 2010
9:46 am

SoCo 9:37 – yes of course.

In my opinion, there should be mandatory electronic employment verification, the border needs to actually be sealed (for a variety of reasons – security, illegal immigration, drug trafficking), illegals could then be given the right to register and have a 5 year work visa. Immigration volume should be increased from the current approx 1 million to 2.5 million annually. And we should rejigger the geographical allocation based roughly on global population (which would allow a lot of chinese and indians to immigrate here obviously). Then, immigration visas grants should be skewed toward accepting those with higher education. We need knowledge workers….

Paul

September 2nd, 2010
9:47 am

AmVet

“If you’re a Pole or Irishman or Lithuanian or Japanese, they could Acre less. After all those people are “Taking American jobs”!”

’s why I got such a kick out of hearing during the MA senate campaign that Massachusetts has 50,000 illegals… from Ireland….

Bosch

“I think that most of the chest pounding wingnuts here wouldn’t mind so much if a buxom Swedish babe lived next door and they knew her to be here illegally.”

Gotta be the “Well DUH!” post of the day! :-)

See, they’re familiar with those movies that tell you what happens when people like that move in next door…..

AmVet

September 2nd, 2010
9:47 am

Jimmy62 just stepped on his own message, but Big D just stepped on his own tongue.

And Southern Comfort didn’t even have to physically assist or “punch’ him…

I know Scout

September 2nd, 2010
9:47 am

Scout spends most of his time in Mulligan’s Pub.

The Leg Lamp is a "major award", much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel

September 2nd, 2010
9:47 am

Oh yeah, I just love the left kooks who blame the problem on Reagan.

“Illegal immigrants continue to outpace the number of legal immigrants—a trend that’s held steady since the 1990s.”

Hmmm, and I thought Reagan was out of office by that time.

jm

September 2nd, 2010
9:48 am

soco 9:37 – if i need to elaborate, “yes of course, they’re here illegally and don’t want to get caught and be forced to go back”

I know Scout

September 2nd, 2010
9:49 am

You’re a racist Jimmy62.

Union

September 2nd, 2010
9:49 am

@ bosch.. i dont assume they are.. but i do wonder?

jm

September 2nd, 2010
9:51 am

For this discussion, people might find this table interesting, 1/2 way down the page.

http://eh.net/encyclopedia/article/cohn.immigration.us

Normal

September 2nd, 2010
9:51 am

Off topic, but something to celebrate maybe?

Commemorate Constitution Day • Friday, September 17

Celebrate We the People • Condemn We the Corporations • Connect to Move to Amend

The US Constitution says “We the People,” not “We the Corporations.” Nowhere in the Constitution are corporations even mentioned let alone protected and anointed with human rights to do virtually what they want, where they want, whenever they want politically, economically, socially or environmentally.

Constitution Day, September 17, is a terrific opportunity to take this message to your school, your neighborhood, city or town, or your elected officials. Start now to do something: educate, advocate or organize on that date to say and proclaim that constitutional rights belong to human beings, not corporations.

Did you know … publicly funded schools and colleges must set aside time on September 17 for lessons or programs on the Constitution and its history. This makes Constitution Day a prime opportunity for students or teachers to do some educating on behalf of ending corporate personhood.

But there’s no reason to stop at the schoolyard. Everyone should know how our rights have been handed over by the courts to the corporate elite, and that we all need to be part of the movement to get those rights back for people alone. The recent Citizens United v FEC Supreme Court decision granting corporations greater First Amendment free speech rights is just the latest example of the decline of real democracy and self-governance.

How can you celebrate and agitate on Constitution Day?

The Move to Amend website has many different suggestions for individuals or groups who want to raise the issue of corporate personhood—from model letters to the editor, to street theater, to fliers and other resources for tabling events or house parties. Take a look at the list at the end of this “Take Action” update, and at the Organizing Resources pages on our website. And start planning!

As always, thanks for what you’re doing for democracy. Happy Constitution Day!

TaxPayer

September 2nd, 2010
9:53 am

When you see a Hispanic person do you automatically assume they are here illegally?

Only if they’re unemployed, er, um, I mean… only if they are employed in the fields or in the chicken factories or in the construction-related trades or making carpet or any of those other jobs that pay $50/hour, er, um, I mean… only if I am an unemployed Republican politician or Republican looking to get re-elected (McCain is a Republican, isn’t he).

Big D

September 2nd, 2010
9:54 am

So Co,
Thanks for the cordial answer…but, again I believe the proof is obvious to Vickie when she sees the preponderance of Hispanics in the clinics and when I see all the street corners around America covered with illegals trying to find work.

Big D

September 2nd, 2010
9:55 am

AM Vet ( if you are) there’s a nice building over on Clairmont Road where you can get help for this personality disorder…maybe up your meds.

Paul

September 2nd, 2010
9:56 am

Another columnist’s views on illegals taking jobs from Americans and what it means for skilled workers:

http://www.star-telegram.com/2010/09/01/2440359/the-surprises-and-rewards-of-hard.html

Bosch

September 2nd, 2010
9:57 am

Big D,

“when she sees the preponderance of Hispanics in the clinics and when I see all the street corners around America covered with illegals trying to find work.”

How do you know they are here illegally?