Terrorism strikes outside Nashville, 800 miles from Ground Zero

It’s an 886-mile drive from Ground Zero in Manhattan to Murfreesboro, TN, outside of Nashville. But to some, that’s apparently too close.

“Federal officials are investigating a fire that started overnight at the site of a new Islamic center in a Nashville suburb.

Ben Goodwin of the Rutherford County Sheriff’s Department confirmed to CBS Affiliate WTVF that the fire, which burned construction equipment at the future site of the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro, is being ruled as arson.

Special Agent Andy Anderson of the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives told CBS News that the fire destroyed one piece of construction equipment and damaged three others. Gas was poured over the equipment to start the fire, Anderson said.

The ATF, FBI and Rutherford County Sheriff’s Office are conducting a joint investigation into the fire, Anderson said….

The chair of the center’s planning committee, Essim Fathy, said he drove to the site at around 5:30 a.m. Saturday morning after he was contacted by the sheriff’s department.

“Our people and community are so worried of what else can happen,” said Fathy. “They are so scared.”

Great. Just great. Let’s be blunt: What happened over the weekend represents an act of domestic terrorism, directed at peaceful people — many of whom are no doubt American citizens — who want nothing more than to live and worship in peace.

Some people have tried to cut the baby in half regarding the proposed Islamic Center/mosque in New York City, arguing that sure, technically, Muslims have the “right” to build where they want to build, but they’d be more “sensitive” if they moved the project elsewhere. But as the Murfreesboro case demonstrates, it’s not really about proximity to Ground Zero and sensitivity is not the cure. It’s about vile and unAmerican discrimination. Such bigotry must be confronted and denounced, not placated.

Just last week, on his “700 Club” show, Pat Robertson weighed in against the Murfreesboro mosque, warning that it was probably being funded by Saudi Arabians as part of a conspiracy to impose sharia on the Murfreesboro area. As the Nashville Tennessean reports:

“Islamic Center officials have said they are building the center in stages because they are using only local funds to pay for it, and they have not accepted contributions from elsewhere.

But Robertson claimed money from wealthy Muslims in Saudi Arabia could be used to pay for construction of the mosque. That Middle East country, he said, practices a more extreme form of Islam.

“This isn’t just religion,” the televangelist said.

He went on to say that Muslims could end up taking over the city council to pass ordinances that require public prayer and foot washing. The new Islamic Center is outside the Murfreesboro city limits. An existing center is much smaller and has been in the city for years.

Robertson said a Muslim takeover would mean girls would have to wear headdresses to school… Thursday, Robertson said local officials could end up being cowed by Muslims’ ability “to bribe folks.” A $10,000 bribe could easily influence a public official in a small town, he said.”

The Muslim community in Murfreesboro comprises some 250 families, some of whom have lived in the area for more than a generation. They plan initially to build a 10,000-square-foot worship facility on the 15-acre tract, followed later by an activity room, offices, gymnasium, a swimming pool, outdoor athletic fields and possibly a cemetery.

But some opponents have apparently charged that the Muslims’ real goal is to build a terrorist training facility. Others have been only slightly less blunt in media interviews.

“They are not a religion. They are a political, militaristic group,” Bob Shelton, a 76-year-old retiree who lives in the area, told The Associated Press.

Shelton was among several hundred demonstrators who recently wore “Vote for Jesus” T-shirts and carried signs that said “No Sharia law for USA!,” referring to the Islamic code of law.

“No mosque in Murfreesboro. I don’t want it. I don’t want them here,” Evy Summers said to WTVF. “Go start their own country overseas somewhere. This is a Christian country. It was based on Christianity.”

Fathy, the head of the Muslim group’s planning committee, told the Tennessean that friends back in Egypt are surprised to hear about crimes against mosques such as Sunday’s vandalism. “They cannot fathom this,” he said. “They always look at the U.S. as the place where democracy is practiced best.”

That’s what we are when we are at our best, when we don’t allow the extremists in our own midst to set the agenda.

340 comments Add your comment

stands for decibels

August 30th, 2010
7:21 am

“They always look at the U.S. as the place where democracy is practiced best.”

Well, we’ll learn those silly foreigners to to think such silly things.

Tea Party Favors

August 30th, 2010
7:30 am

How about that mug shot of Paris? If she had been wearing a burka, with the full face covering, (called a paper bag), then none of us would have been subject to it.

There are some good things about Sharia Law, man.

All I’m sayin’

Bob

August 30th, 2010
7:31 am

Those nutjob Baptists, next thing you know they will be burying rape victims up to their shoulders and stoning them to death.

Tea Party Favors

August 30th, 2010
7:33 am

.and lets not be so liberal with the T word, Jay. Arson or Terrorism. You decide for us.

Check. Now Jay is the Imam and we’re all just his little sheep.

Baa.

God's Country

August 30th, 2010
7:34 am

The Muslims is comin’, the Muslims is comin’. I sure hope old Scout managed to beat them to the high grounds and take charge of the cannons. It’s our best line of defense. Now, if we can just get old Pat Robertson to come down and lead us all in a few rounds of Onward Christian Soldier to help get everyone’s fightin’ spirit stirred up, we might just have a shot at takin’ back this country’s honor.

jt

August 30th, 2010
7:35 am

Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and EXPLOSIVES.

When did this happen? Government agencies ALWAYS ” mission-creep”.

Anyhow, I’m thinking the Tenneeseans are just jealous because Muslims control their women better.

It’s a fact. In the world of Islam, the family unit is still intact.

Jay

August 30th, 2010
7:36 am

Terrorism is an act intended to terrify, Tea Party.

By that definition, this one succeeded.

Paul

August 30th, 2010
7:36 am

Fear mixed with ignorance and uncertainty. This is one example of what happens.

Mr. Robertson’s a prime example. Unfortunately, he has the means to spread his ignorance to a large number of people who trust his words.

Strikes me, though, that many at the opposite end of the spectrum have contributed to this mindset. Three months ago, Imam Rauf said funding for the NY mosque ‘would be’ funded, in part, by Islamic and Arab countries. That could be a problem, given some limits on accepting funding from certain foreign sources, yet many in the media are reluctant to explore those issues. ABC News later reported a mosque spokesman refused to rule out funding from those countries. People who cited that as a concern were ridiculed – witness the source of ‘news’ for many, Jon Stewart and other cable news entertainers, who followed the pattern of many by spinning it into yet another plot by Fox News. So… people hear bits and pieces, snippets, and they don’t know what to make of it. But people being what they are, they make of it the worst possible.

Oh, and all that nonsense about imposing Sharia law? What part of the Constitution don’t these soapbox standers understand? People can’t even display a cross in many situations, display a Nativity or hold a religious social group meeting in public facilities, yet this guy thinks, somehow, the courts are going to allow, yet alone force, incorporating Islamic-based religious law into our daily practices?!!?

More ignorance fueling fear leading to regrettable action.

Granny Godzilla

August 30th, 2010
7:36 am

From Think Progress

“The incident at Murfreesboro should not be viewed in isolation. Among other recent Islamophobic hate incidents: a pipe bomb was set off at a Jacksonville mosque; a playground at an Arlington, Texas mosque was torched; a brick was thrown through a mosque window in Madera, California; a Nashville mosque was vandalized, among many others.”

The creatures responsible for this are un-American and
un-Christian. If you don’t condemn this, you are as bad as they are.

BADA BING

August 30th, 2010
7:37 am

Don’t jump to conclusions, FBI statistics show that the majority of such fires are set by members of the congregation. The last similar fire in the news was set by a Muslim that attended the mosque.

Bob

August 30th, 2010
7:38 am

ATLANTA — The city of Atlanta reversed course Thursday, agreeing to a consent order from a federal judge that will allow Kingdom First Ministries to begin meeting in its rented building immediately. The city made its decision after Alliance Defense Fund attorneys and allied attorneys filed suit against the city for illegitimately denying the church use of the building. No, the city was not denying muslims so this would not have been a story for Jay and his followers that seem to have a renewed faith in freedom of religion.

God's Country

August 30th, 2010
7:41 am

Where’s Rumsfeld and his special slideshow presentations when we need them most. He always knew just the right biblical scripture to print in our time of need on the battlefield. Hopefully, Pat knows them too. Maybe he can broadcast them to all our fellow Christian soldiers from under his bed to under their beds. I hope they have room for all that stuff under the beds. Cannons and teevees and under-bed antennas and copies of their long forms in case they’re captured by GOP soldiers and mistook for Democrats.

joe

August 30th, 2010
7:42 am

Not saying this could happen here, but 60 minutes recently aired a segment on a Orthodox Christian Sect passed down from Greece, that had been thriving in Turkey for several centuries. However, present day Turkey is mostly Muslim and the town where this church is located is 99.9 percent Muslim. They city passed laws saying no foreign born priests can serve at the church. Since 0.01 of the population there meet that criteria, the present day Priests know their days are numbered and the church will soon be forced to shut down.

For those who say Muslim is a 100% tolerant religion, you are mistaken…not to mention the extremists who are right this second planning attacks to kill “westerners.” Burning this mosque in TN was wrong, but compared to the brutal killings and beheadings of the terrorists, doesn’t seem quite so bad.

Granny Godzilla

August 30th, 2010
7:43 am

Mr. Bing

Love to see that data….

Mick

August 30th, 2010
7:46 am

There’s one voice that has been oddly silent that could help out – george w. bush. After 911, he correctly pointed out that islam had been hijacked by “evil doers”. Bush needs to remind his faithful followers again to be tolerant.

Tea Party Favors

August 30th, 2010
7:47 am

“Great. Just great.”

Mediocre. Just mediocre. If this were Sharia Law, you’re bandwidth would have been cut in half for that one Jay. Remember, under Sharia Law, it’s a dotted I for a dotted I and a bluetooth for a bluetooth. You would have been exiled to Cyber-Siberia under Sharia Written Law.

all I’m sayin’…

Doggone/GA

August 30th, 2010
7:48 am

“For those who say Muslim is a 100% tolerant religion, you are mistaken”

There is a huge difference between a tolerant religion…and the ability of the FOLLOWERS of that religion to BE tolerant. This is a tolerant, secular society but no one would be stupid enough to claim we are 100% tolerant.

“Burning this mosque in TN was wrong, but compared to the brutal killings and beheadings of the terrorists, doesn’t seem quite so bad.”

The inability of people to comprehend what they read is amazing. First, no mosque was burnt…only come construction equipement. And just like the so-called “Ground Zero Mosque” that isn’t a mosque, neither is this planned building. What part of “They plan initially to build a 10,000-square-foot worship facility on the 15-acre tract, followed later by an activity room, offices, gymnasium, a swimming pool, outdoor athletic fields and possibly a cemetery. ” A “worship facility” is no more a mosque, than a prayer room in a hospital is a church.

Mick

August 30th, 2010
7:49 am

Sharia law? Get real, we can’t even enforce our own laws..

God's Country

August 30th, 2010
7:49 am

Fortunately we all have Beck working on our behalves now. If he can just restore our country’s honor in time, perhaps that will drive out the evil Muslims and return our nation to the mighty Christian-founded nation that it once was. Then again, there are still a bunch of Democrats here and we know how they will tolerate just about anything — Muslims, Socialists, taxpayers, regulations, … the Constitution.

Terrorism?

August 30th, 2010
7:51 am

I think not.

@@

August 30th, 2010
7:52 am

Third time’s a charm. My post keeps misappearing.

I’ll wait for the outcome of the investigation before I point fingers as to who was motivated by what.

I will repeat what I’ve said before. Pat Robertson is, in my opinion, off his rocker. I wrote him off a long time ago. Nuttier than a fruitcake.

stands for decibels

August 30th, 2010
7:52 am

No, the city was not denying muslims so this would not have been a story for Jay

While I don’t claim any great knowledge of Murfreesboro, TN other than what I saw on the wiki page, I will go out on a limb and say that, like most AJC readers, I wouldn’t be exactly shocked, shocked, to discover that the City of Atlanta might just be a tad more open to religious freedom.

stands for decibels

August 30th, 2010
7:54 am

Normal

August 30th, 2010
7:55 am

Good Monday Morning, all y’all…
Sounds like another American Patroit doing his duty… :roll:
Seriously though, that kind of stupid act just fuels the fire…”Stupid is as stupid does, Sir…”

By the way, did you know there’s an Islamic Center in Roswell? I think I’m going to visit…

andygrd

August 30th, 2010
7:56 am

The acts committed were acts of terrorism. Flat out wrong…. Should not happen in this country… but then again you liberals did not think the events at Fort Hood were linked to terrorism….. Or an action of a radical Muslim extremist….. Somehow the term Radical Muslim Extremist is not in your vocabulary …

If you are going to call it, call it both ways…….

Doggone/GA

August 30th, 2010
7:57 am

“but then again you liberals did not think the events at Fort Hood were linked to terrorism”

You DO NOT speak for all “liberals” and *I* for one DID think the Ft Hood shootings were terrorism.

Paul

August 30th, 2010
7:57 am

Mick

“Bush needs to remind his faithful followers again to be tolerant.”

Pres Bush got the memo from Pres Obama – the one that says jihadists don’t have anything to do with Islam.

Tea Party Favors

“all I’m sayin’…”

Is what? That we have a constitution and independent courts and we can look at what happens in Turkey or Saudi Arabia or Iran and think, “Whew! I glad I don’t live there!”?

God’s Country

Congratulations! You get the ‘First to Bring in Beck’ Award!

Ummm…. where did he ever say anything about driving out Muslims? Wait… I get it!!! You’re doing the flip side of Pat Robertson to illustrate this kind of thinking permeates our society, right?

God's Country

August 30th, 2010
7:59 am

Fellow Christians need to speak out against the evil in their ranks. They must ALL condemn publicly the evil that exudes from the mouth of those such as Pat Robertson. Their voices must be heard worldwide on FOX News, the trusted source in news. It is the only way. Rupert’s way. Glenn’s way. Not the merry way of Jon Stewart. After all, all he does is call out the hypocrites and cons in an entertaining way.

Normal

August 30th, 2010
7:59 am

@@

August 30th, 2010
7:52 am

Well said about waiting and I can’t believe that I agree with you…must be the first sign of “The End Times:. :D

Redneck Concert (R--and proud of it)

August 30th, 2010
7:59 am

Well, when I seen the headline I was all ready to give my advise again that everybody needs to fly or drive around buck-nekkid so we can be protected from the Terrists. Then I seen it was about some Patriotic and God-fearing Americans trying to keep the Towelheads from getting a foot-hold in our beloved South and I put my anti-tank weapon and the two machine guns I use for hunting and self-defense back down.

Back in the good old days, we use to burn barns down to give a message to people we don’t like and want to move out. I reckon the godly people up in Nashville couldn’t find no barns so the construction equipment was the next best thing.

Sure, the Towelheads got a right to build their church there, but that don’t mean they should. They need to think about our Feelings. About how we don’t want them there and stuff. Or anyplace, for that matter. Let them build their church back in their own country. This is a country for Baptists and Holiness people and Methodists and even Catholics and Jews, even if some of the Catholics and all the Jews are going to a place where it’s awful hot.

Anyway, my advise is for people to relax. This wasn’t no Terrism. This was just a few good old boys having fun and standing up for the American Way.

Have a good Monday everybody.

Paul

August 30th, 2010
8:00 am

Doggone/GA

Good morning!

“You DO NOT speak for all “liberals” and *I* for one DID think the Ft Hood shootings were terrorism.”

Which shows, once again, how independent you are from the thinking of so many progressives!

barking frog

August 30th, 2010
8:00 am

Anybody at AJC investigate the financial condition of
the construction company? most arson is for money
not religious terror. If it was christians you would
think they would have gone for the existing mosque.

jt

August 30th, 2010
8:01 am

Sheriff Buford T. Pusser probably already knows who did it,

but a bunch of ATFE goons are in his way.

I Report :-) You Whine :-( mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

August 30th, 2010
8:02 am

We do not even know who started the fire, it could be anyone, anyone, where was kookman this weekend? but here we are, taking advantage of it to hate on America.

I would very much like to say something else but decorum prevents.

Just imagine…

God's Country

August 30th, 2010
8:02 am

Paul,

And a hearty counter-congrats to you for invoking the name of the revered Jon Stewart. Now, did I bring in Beck before or after you brought in FOX, where Beck works. Do check on that for me, won’t you.

Normal

August 30th, 2010
8:04 am

“I would very much like to say something else but decorum prevents.”

That’s never stopped you before… :)

Jay

August 30th, 2010
8:05 am

Reporter/Whiner claims to be restrained by decorum.

In other news, Paris Hilton joins a convent and Pat Robertson converts to Islam.

Saul Good

August 30th, 2010
8:05 am

I’ll wait for the “leaders” of the Republican party AND “Christianity” to weigh in on this…you know: Newt, Sarah, Beck, Rush, and Hannity.

Someone let me know when they condemn this action and speak out against it.

Paul

August 30th, 2010
8:07 am

God’s Country

Please go for the BIG picture, here. Stewart was invoked as representative of those who either avoided, or ridiculed the issue of foreign funding. Most people don’t take Stewart seriously. Some do. Same with Beck, except Beck’s detractors seem to take him more seriously than Stewart’s. I also brought in Fox to illustrate the documented way in which it’s not just Stewart, but other cable news shows and entertainers, who default to the “dismiss the topic by ridiculing Fox’ strategy.

Which still leaves the element of ‘foreign funding’ as one more item fueling concern among some and the perception that “The Left” doesn’t want to address it, so there must be something to it.

Care to address that aspect?

Peadawg

August 30th, 2010
8:08 am

No need to jump to conclusions. Let’s wait until the investigation is over.

I Report :-) You Whine :-( mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

August 30th, 2010
8:10 am

Which political party is it that usually attacks construction equipment, SUV’s, home sites, Honey Baked Ham stores, Burger Kings, et al.

Maybe they figured they would get a twofer this time?

Just sayin…

Mick

August 30th, 2010
8:12 am

Didn’t billy joel sing about “starting the fire”?

God's Country

August 30th, 2010
8:12 am

Paul’s not a walrus. He’s a hypocrite. Ewww. Walruses are prettier.

The Leg Lamp is a "major award", much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel

August 30th, 2010
8:13 am

Martin Luther King Jr. – I have a dream….

Al Sharpton – I have a scheme….

The Leg Lamp is a "major award", much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel

August 30th, 2010
8:13 am

What is another moozlum sect started the fire?

Peadawg

August 30th, 2010
8:14 am

What happened to innocent until proven guilty? Immediately right wing Christians are getting blamed for this…..

Jay

August 30th, 2010
8:15 am

Paul, I fail to see the import of “foreign funding,” particularly when you write:

“That could be a problem, given some limits on accepting funding from certain foreign sources….”

What limits would those be? After all, we send millions, perhaps hundreds of millions, of dollars overseas to support Christian missionaries every year. Furthermore, there is no evidence whatsoever of any money flowing either from terror groups or Islamic extremists to mosque supporters. Until such evidence surfaces, the issue is an absolute red herring.

God's Country

August 30th, 2010
8:16 am

Okay, so FOX is funded by foreigners, especially that Saudi prince, and Beck works for FOX so Beck is funded by the Saudi Prince. Wait a minute. I think Jon Stewart has already covered that one in, I must say, quite an entertaining fashion. Unlike what those FOX entertainers do.

barking frog

August 30th, 2010
8:17 am

From the University of the South on Monteagle mountain
at Sewanee Tennessee which was praised by Eleanor
Roosevelt north to Nashville(Music City) home of Bonnaroo
you will find probably one of the most liberal areas in the
country and especially the South. I believe you stated
that the mosque in murfreesboro had existed for years.
The local nutjobs that the media is so adept at ferreting
out for quotes sound atypical of the area.

jt

August 30th, 2010
8:17 am

I think maybe they should get the United Nations Human Rights Council up in there.

Do some investigating. This isn’t going to look good on our “Universal Period Review (UPR) report”.

Ugandians are some hard-ases.

Calling Beverly Hall.

Answer man.

August 30th, 2010
8:17 am

The point you make about Turkey, Joe, is that you have no point to make, you turkey.

@@

August 30th, 2010
8:20 am

Oh, and jay? You conveniently left out comments made by Kevin Fisher.

Fisher spent his formative years in Buffalo, where a homegrown terrorist cell of Yemeni Americans was uncovered in 2002. Its presence in a place so familiar haunts Fisher to this day, he said. He is well aware that clerics at U.S. mosques have been accused of espousing radical views in the years before and after Sept. 11.

And he pointed out that one of the Murfreesboro mosque’s board members was suspended after the discovery of a MySpace page where he had posted Arabic poetry and a photo of the founder of the Islamic militant group Hamas. Leaders of the mosque said their internal investigation showed no wrongdoing, and they are cooperating with federal authorities looking into the matter.

Kevin Fisher, an African American man who is leading the fight against the
mosque.

A black bigot?????

http://www.getreligion.org/?p=41904

Your constant harping on these incidences seeks to inflame every bit as much as Robertson.

Jay

August 30th, 2010
8:23 am

Gee @@, I didn’t know that race was relevant here.

In fact, I still don’t. What point are you attempting to make with that information?

Redneck Concert (R--and proud of it)

August 30th, 2010
8:23 am

Paul, I fail to see the import of “foreign funding”

Looks like this Paul is trying to horn in on my territory. Come up with your own stuff, Paul.

Normal

August 30th, 2010
8:25 am

Mick

August 30th, 2010
8:12 am

Yes he did, but he also sang about Catholic virgins, too…

joe

August 30th, 2010
8:25 am

I may be a turkey but at least my posts have substance, unlike your name-calling…if you don’t believe the story I referenced and don’t get my point, look it up on cbs news under the 60 minutes tab…you’ll get your answer there…idiot.

Paul

August 30th, 2010
8:26 am

God’s Country

Going from issues to namecalling. Scoreboard!

Jay,

My point it’s one of the many uncertainties people hear. They have a general misunderstanding of much of Islam, or they have an overriding view of it through 9-11 and the wars we’re involved in. Then along comes some of the leaders of the mosque who say ‘if we can’t get the money ourselves, Muslim countries will pay for it’ and they make the leap to spearheading an ideological takeover.

The problem on accepting funding from foreign sources has to do specifically with Iran. My understanding is, given how the US government has classified that country, accepting funds emanating from that country would likely be a problem. A few news stories in mainstream media could raise the issue and at the same time tie in how, say, Christian groups routinely have missionaries, aid programs, chapel construction projects, etc in many foreign countries with no attempt to get into their local politics. But people hear these quotes from ABC or read them in newspapers, then instead of even a brief news report regarding legality or importance, hear a dismissal and ridicule of their confusion, so they conclude, “hmmm…. must be something there.”

Again, I was not stating a case for what is. I was making a case for how some take their fears and concerns to the next level.

Doggone/GA

August 30th, 2010
8:26 am

Paul,

Thank you, but please note that I said terrorism, not Islamic terrorism. I don’t qualify terrorism…it’s ALL JUST terrorism.

Doggone/GA

August 30th, 2010
8:27 am

“In fact, I still don’t. What point are you attempting to make with that information?”

I’m glad it isn’t just me that didn’t see any point to that post.

@@

August 30th, 2010
8:27 am

jay, race only becomes relevant because left-wingers and journalists, like you, keep harping on white bigotry.

Doggone/GA

August 30th, 2010
8:28 am

“unlike your name-calling…”

“you’ll get your answer there…idiot.”

Pot, meet kettle

Paul

August 30th, 2010
8:29 am

Redneck

No encroachment intended.

Goes against one of my Principles to Live By: Never tick off the guy who delivers the beer -

Haywood Jablome

August 30th, 2010
8:29 am

From ostracizing the Puritans, to black-balling the Jews, to marginalizing the filthy Irish Catholics, our great country has a proud history of religious bullying and terroristic threats toward wierdO religions.

76-year old Bob Shelton and his backward idiot hillbilly friends are likely very proud of participating in a\American traditions.

Bosch

August 30th, 2010
8:29 am

What happened over the weekend represents an act of domestic terrorism, directed at peaceful people — many of whom are no doubt American citizens — who want nothing more than to live and worship in peace.

You could have stopped right there Jay, because that says it all, but thanks for these gems:

“They are not a religion. They are a political, militaristic group,” Bob Shelton, a 76-year-old retiree who lives in the area, told The Associated Press.”

Hey Scout – were you in Murfreesboro recently?

“No mosque in Murfreesboro. I don’t want it. I don’t want them here,” Evy Summers said to WTVF. “Go start their own country overseas somewhere. This is a Christian country. It was based on Christianity.”

Ignorant moron.

larry

August 30th, 2010
8:30 am

Why are we worried about foreign funding of mosques and churches, thanks to the Supreme Court we can have foreign funding of our elections.

Which one is scarier ?

Saul Good

August 30th, 2010
8:30 am

Peagawg,
While you’re right…nobody has been caught yet…Feel free to list those on the right as well as Christian leadership who have spoken out AGAINST it. (including yourself).

The Leg Lamp is a "major award", much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel

August 30th, 2010
8:30 am

“Obama, Dems got 88% of employee contributions from ABCCBSNBC… ”

Real shock there, huh.

Palin fan

August 30th, 2010
8:31 am

Arson does not automatically mean terrorism. Unless of course your one of the liberal puppets in the lamestream media.

I’m glad they are not trying to build one of their creepy centers near my great little American town.

Normal

August 30th, 2010
8:33 am

Palin fan

August 30th, 2010
8:31 am

Where is your town?

joe

August 30th, 2010
8:33 am

@ doggone…I was brought up not to throw the first “punch.” However, once bullied, I’ll rip anyone a “new one.” Care to dance?? LOL…

The Leg Lamp is a "major award", much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel

August 30th, 2010
8:34 am

“Obama says he ignored Beck rally…”

I guess he’ll ignore the November election results as well.

DWTOO

August 30th, 2010
8:34 am

Good points about not jumping to conclusions about the motive behind the fire. However, the points being made here are more about our attitudes regarding someone different from us. Like the man wearing the anti-mosque shirt or the women and the “Christian nation” remarks. These people act like ignorance and bigotry are virtues.

And Robertson, and his followers, need to focus on the teachings of their Savior. I think he would be ashamed of them for treating God’s children this way. There’s a special place in Hades for him. For he poses as a man of God, but, his words and actions betray him.

I always get a laugh when posters refer to the repressive practices of other countries, like Turkey’s above. Well, that’s why we are fortunate to live here – where at least according to our Constitution – where have rights that are protected against the tyranny of the majority. Or the will of the sheeple.

AmVet

August 30th, 2010
8:35 am

First off, Robertson is not nuts, unless it is of the crazy like a VERY wealthy fox variety.

He is a sleazebag that preys upon the prejudice and ignorance of this sheep. And has been for a very long time. He has said so many repugnant, bigoted things that he and Ann Coulter could go toe to toe.

Like his many monied cousins, including Jerry Falwell and others, the fact that these repulsive charlatans and Talibaptists are ENORMOUSLY popular among the faithful zealots in this country should tell one pretty much what they need to know about this “flock”.

And ironic that this event took place in Tennessee, yes?

Home of the vaunted right wing heroes, James Adkisson and the “Klannish” Lt. Governor…

Vinny

August 30th, 2010
8:35 am

ready……Fire……AIM!

Nice job Jay. The heart bleeds.
Obviously, you know something the rest of us don’t know.
How do you know the fire wasn’t started by Muslims? Why don’t you get all of the facts before you write such dribble.

C’mon Jay! Don’t sink to CT’s level – you are better than this!

Paul

August 30th, 2010
8:38 am

Haywood

“our great country has a proud history of religious bullying and terroristic threats toward wierdO religions.”

I’d say it’s a recurring theme – ignorant people discriminate against those who are different. But what makes our country great is eventually those attitudes die away. Sure, someone new comes along to take their place, but the cycle of overcoming ignorance continues. That’s what makes our country different from some other countries.

Morning, Bosch!

deegee

August 30th, 2010
8:38 am

Talk about foreign funding, look at the investments the Vatican holds in the U.S. And try to get to the bottom of a pedophilia problem or any type of scandal with the Catholic Church. It takes a whole lot of tenacity to fight the Vatican. Sheesh.

RW-(the original)

August 30th, 2010
8:40 am

Pretty absurd stretch from a trained journalist to claim that a crime in Tennessee proves that opposition in New York is really wannabe terrorist bigots.

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There was a quote going around last night where Obama said he couldn’t go around with his birth certificate attached to his forehead so I figured he had been asked about his place of birth. It turns out the question was whether or not he was a Muslim and that’s how he answered. Is there any doubt about just who wants to keep this birth certificate story simmering?

Doggone/GA

August 30th, 2010
8:40 am

“Care to dance?? LOL”

No. I find hypocrits boring to deal with. If you don’t want to be called names…don’t call names. “Turn about” is not fair play.

Rightwing Troll

August 30th, 2010
8:42 am

Is this one of the “new” ideas coming from the hate baggers?

“All we need to do to fix the economy and get people back to work is hate on Muslims?”

At least it’s somewhat new, there’s that…

barking frog

August 30th, 2010
8:42 am

God’s Country 7:34

The Muslims is comin’, the Muslims is comin’. I sure hope old Scout managed to beat them to the high grounds and take charge of the cannons. It’s our best line of defense.
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Scout is a Marine enlisted man. He took the following oath. He has not been released from it.

“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.”

You may note the DOMESTIC. No other U.S. official takes this oath.

Paul

August 30th, 2010
8:42 am

G’morning, AmVet

Pat Robertson’s of the same generation as my dad. Dad spoke of talking to a guy during his training during WWII. Bunch of guys were talking about their backgrounds and someone asked the guy what his dad did. He replied, “He’s a con man.” Got asked, “What do you mean?” and he said he made a living by running various cons against people. Then he discovered evangelical ministers and became one of them. Said he made more money at it than he’d ever made in his life.

Not to disparage religion, here. Just the con men who use whatever they can to prey off others.

‘course, those Wall Streeters have taken it to a whole new level…..

Stew Day

August 30th, 2010
8:42 am

Jay this event carried little or no Nashville Press and as a resident of Nashville that is even more worry some. Where is the media watchdogs? There is a tremendous backlash to the Muslim people and culture right now, similar to the Japanese back lash in WW2.

We have a enemy who is of muslim decent that fact is tough to ignore, it is the elephant in the room–fear breeds more fear mentality–Until our 30 year war is over these feelings of americans will persist.

Bosch

August 30th, 2010
8:45 am

Hi Paul! It’s Monday, have you heard?

Rightwing Troll

August 30th, 2010
8:46 am

Hmmmphhh…

250 families are going to impose sharia law on Nashville…

Really???… It’s enough to make Andy want to go hide under his porch with a gun… oh wait, he’s already under there…

Paul

August 30th, 2010
8:46 am

off topic

Hey, RW-(the original)

Catch any of the Little League World Series? Gonna have to work on name pronunciation for some major leaguers in a few years -

Jay

August 30th, 2010
8:47 am

RW:

BRIAN WILLIAMS: Mr. President, you’re an American-born Christian.

PRESIDENT OBAMA: Uh-huh.

BRIAN WILLIAMS: And yet, increasing and now significant numbers of Americans in polls, upwards of a fifth of respondents are claiming you are neither. A fifth of the people, just about, believe you’re a Muslim…

Care to revise?

Paul

August 30th, 2010
8:48 am

Bosch!

No, I hadn’t. I don’t even get the memos any more. But I did write down the instructions for the secret handshake…

Monday? Gotta check the calendar… Librul Day? Loony Lib? Conservative? Neo-con? I gotta get a new calendar!

Paul

August 30th, 2010
8:50 am

Jay

A fifth of the people? That’s 20 percent, and there’s that Rule again: 20 percent of a population will believe almost anything.

mm

August 30th, 2010
8:50 am

When are they going to start locking up these @ssholes on TV that incite this type of behavior?

RW-(the original)

August 30th, 2010
8:51 am

Paul,

I did catch most of the LLWS. I hope that kid from Texas starts learning to enjoy life or he’s going to be miserable. It’s also pretty hard to project major league talent at this level but I’m sure a couple of them will make it.

God's Country

August 30th, 2010
8:51 am

Paul!

I said you’re not a walrus. That’s not name calling. That’s name un-calling.

Scout

August 30th, 2010
8:52 am

Jay:

Well, I’m glad the arsonists (who should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law) didn’t actually burn any of the building itself or they might have destroyed some of the FBI surveillance devices that are being implanted.

RW-(the original)

August 30th, 2010
8:53 am

Jay B @ 8:47,

Sure I’ll revise it to what you cut and pasted which is pretty much the same as my readers digest version as long as the next thing in your sequence is the birth certificate quip.

midtownguy

August 30th, 2010
8:54 am

All sane individuals, despite their political leanings, agree that Pat Robertson is a total nut case. The problem is that there seem to be enough other nut cases to keep him on the air. And the difference between general public opinion and riled up zealots is that it only takes one, or a small group, of to do terroristic damage. Pat Robertson and his followers are much more of a threat to American than are US citizen muslims.

John K

August 30th, 2010
8:54 am

I’m sure the rightwingers are enjoying the fruits of their fear-mongering.

AmVet

August 30th, 2010
8:54 am

Out of all the nuts in the right wing fringe, the birthers may just be the laughingstock of them all.

Paul, and when they ask the Tea Floggers, that 20% rule turns into the 30% rule.

WAY too high to be taken as a serious (non-bowel) movement in my opinion…

godless heathen

August 30th, 2010
8:55 am

Jay, it used to be called vandalism. You know hoodlums vandalize construction equipment all the time. This construction equipment just happened to working at a mosque location. I wouldn’t be so quick to PREJUDGE the motives of the vandals until all the facts are in.

Bosch

August 30th, 2010
8:56 am

Oh ugh. I just looked through the photo gallery from the Billy Idol/Joan Jett concert.

Paul

August 30th, 2010
8:58 am

God’s Country

Thanks. So, I’ve been promoted from Egg Man, eh? Cool – coo coo ka choo -

Saul Good

August 30th, 2010
8:59 am

Paul: “20 percent of a population will believe almost anything.”

Do 20% of our population here in the US believe that Allah is the “one and only” god or in the teachings of Muhammad?

Just sayin’…. ;-)