GOP stocking up on not-ready-for-primetime players

From Politico:

“Top Democrats are growing markedly more pessimistic about holding the House, privately conceding that the summertime economic and political recovery they were banking on will not likely materialize by Election Day.

In conversations with more than two dozen party insiders, most of whom requested anonymity to speak candidly about the state of play, Democrats in and out of Washington say they are increasingly alarmed about the economic and polling data they have seen in recent weeks….

A Democratic pollster working on several key races said, “The reality is that [the House majority] is probably gone.” His data show the Democrats’ problems are only getting worse. “It’s spreading,” the pollster said.

Not all Democrats — or Republicans, for that matter — share this pessimistic assessment 68 days before the election. Republicans need to pick up 39 seats, and polls show most voters still have a downbeat view of the GOP’s ability to govern any better than Democrats. Republicans have been out-raised and outspent at the national level and in many of the key races.

I agree: There’s a decent chance that the Dems could indeed lose the House. And I think the consequences of that would be dire both for the country and, perhaps surprisingly, for the Republican Party. Here’s why:

The results of the primary season have made it clear that the GOP base will reject any candidate who in any way suggests it is possible to compromise with or cooperate with Democrats. John McCain got that message early and survived. Lisa Murkowski, Bob Bennett, Bob Inglis and Charlie Crist did not, and were rejected by their fellow Republicans. The GOP resurgence is being driven not by program or policy but by a primal scream of “NO!”

Republicans both veteran and newcomer will go to Washington in January with that message tattooed onto their brains, and will act accordingly. No cooperation, no compromise, only all-out warfare. Their base has given them no room whatsoever in which to manuever, and they know it. Under such circumstances, reaching accommodation on issues such as the budget will be impossible. The situation will make the Gingrich-Clinton standoff seem calm placid by comparison.

And in that kind of environment, Barack Obama will thrive. He may not get much done, but he will come off looking reasonable and mainstream while the Republicans make themselves look petty and extreme, setting the stage for Democratic successes in 2012.

Time will tell, of course. But at the moment, the GOP is looking like a dog that’s about to catch the car, with no idea whatsoever about what it ought to do next.

380 comments Add your comment

Peadawg

August 26th, 2010
11:22 am

“And I think the consequences of that would be dire both for the country”

The because the country has being doing soooo well under a Democratic controlled senate/house the past 4 years! :roll:

RW-(the original)

August 26th, 2010
11:25 am

Republicans are willing to compromise. It’s just that right now the perimeters are far-left and gonzo-left. There’s no point in compromising when you end up somewhere between those perimeters.

Saul Good

August 26th, 2010
11:29 am

It will simply be the party of “NO” shining brightly and showing just exactly HOW they have no plans to fix the economy…except to keep every bill penned by dems blocked… all while talking about Tax cuts…you know…those tax cuts that are STILL in place and have no created any jobs and have only added to the deficit.

barking frog

August 26th, 2010
11:34 am

In a revolution many non combatants die..

Red

August 26th, 2010
11:34 am

Would like to see how much better a President we’ll have with the ‘foaming at the mouth’ crowd in charge of the House. I agree, PrezBo will look more measured, moderate, and in control while uncapping his veto pen.

I’d like to know what spending will be cut if the R’s take control though. WAIT! The brown folks are trying to build a community center in Manhattan! Now what was the original question?

USinUK

August 26th, 2010
11:35 am

Jay – from downstairs – don’t you know that anytime a Dem brings up someone is gay, they’re automatically “bashing” them???

(see: poutrage at Edwards for mentioning Cheney’s daughter)

RW-(the original)

August 26th, 2010
11:35 am

Muckraking tea party protestor gone wild–Venezuela style

We missed an important moment at the Miss Universe pageant on Saturday
night. The outgoing Miss Universe made a little political statement on
her final catwalk that was visible to Venezuelans but probably no one
else, holding up an obsolete seven star pre-Chavez era flag. She did it
to signal distress in her country, and nowhere is that move evident than
in Venezuela’s violent crime. This week the news came out that Caracas
is the most violent city in the world, a distinction it holds over Kabul, Baghdad, Sao Paulo and Ciudad Juarez.

Scout

August 26th, 2010
11:36 am

“Time will tell, of course. But at the moment, the GOP is looking like a dog that’s about to catch the car, with no idea whatsoever about what it ought to do next.”

And that Democrat car is going downhill with no brakes.

Libertarian

August 26th, 2010
11:38 am

Yes, I’m sure if the democrats retain a majority they will be FULL of “cooperation” and “compromise.”

The only way either party will ever compromise or cooperate is if neither party has a filibuster proof majority.

barking frog

August 26th, 2010
11:38 am

With the democratic majority at present most
votes are still squeakers. With a republican
majority it would stay the same.

@@

August 26th, 2010
11:40 am

Don’t know why you believe that, jay.

Obama is a classic example of saying one thing during the campaign and doing something entirely different once elected. Did the dems learn anything after being exiled “to the wilderness” (AmVet’s fave) for so long? No!

I’d like to see a mix-up to fix-up.

The dems present themselves as warm and fuzzy, when in fact the majority of Americans have seen them as anything but…

Republicans will be coming in from the cold. The American people will be keeping a close eye on them.

godless heathen

August 26th, 2010
11:41 am

I’ll be proud to pull the lever for the party of NO MORE!

AmVet

August 26th, 2010
11:42 am

Looks like I was missing out on some serious leg humping downstairs.

Or as Peter in Office Space said, “I wouldn’t exactly say I’ve been missing it.”

Jay, very good analysis of the potential fallout. But I still have doubts they will make the inroads they are convinced of.

Two thoughts. One, how in the h,e, double ell could anyone with an IQ over say 70, vote for yet “more of the same” neo-cons?

Two, how much more damage can they possibly inflict on the nation after that 8 year Reign of Error?

Bruno

August 26th, 2010
11:42 am

“No cooperation, no compromise, only all-out warfare…..And in that kind of environment, Barack Obama will thrive. He may not get much done, but he will come off looking reasonable and mainstream while the Republicans make themselves look petty and extreme, setting the stage for Democratic successes in 2012.”

Jay–you seem to be laboring under the illusion that the Democrats have extended a spirit of bipartisanship and compromise these past 1 1/2 years. Just my opinion, of course, but the backroom arm-twisting and outright bribery that resulted in the passage of the health care bill was nothing short of criminal in my book.

stands for decibels

August 26th, 2010
11:43 am

Republicans are willing to compromise.

…as evidenced by their charming willingness to accept a private insurance mandate (a la Romneycare) rather than a public option, and cap-and-trade rather than a carbon tax.

oh, wait.

barking frog

August 26th, 2010
11:43 am

No soup lines, no bread lines, no gas lines, just
unemployment. the promise of jobs will rule the
election.

Bruno

August 26th, 2010
11:43 am

“Looks like I was missing out on some serious leg humping downstairs.”

Don’t worry, bro, I threw one in there for you as well. ;-)

RW-(the original)

August 26th, 2010
11:44 am

I guess focusing on the word bash allows one to ignore their gratuitous swipe. My bad, I learned long ago not to let a liberal have two choices, but I slipped.

USinUK

August 26th, 2010
11:44 am

dB – “Republicans are willing to compromise”

Lucy and the football.

nuff said.

Bruno

August 26th, 2010
11:46 am

“…as evidenced by their charming willingness to accept a private insurance mandate (a la Romneycare) rather than a public option, and cap-and-trade rather than a carbon tax.”

sfd–At the risk of being labeled repetitive, I need to remind you once again that no Republican votes have been needed, or even courted, these past 1 1/2 years.

Joe

August 26th, 2010
11:47 am

If Dems lose the House this year, I pray that Jay is right about 2012. Unfortunately, I don’t give the voters as much credit as he does. Too many of them are running around with “liberal” media drivel in their heads. The fact that they’re planning on turning the House (and possibly the Senate) over to proud Tea Party/Republican ignoramuses this fall is evidence of that.

USinUK

August 26th, 2010
11:48 am

RW – good gracious! your delicate sensibilities!! hie thee to a fainting couch!!

RW-(the original)

August 26th, 2010
11:48 am

sfb/d,

I said there’s no need to compromise when the limits of the debate are real bad and tragic. (Not sure about the initials. The blog nanny told me that by using b instead of d I was deliberately trying to denigrate you or something so I don’t know if I missed a message from you. I saw the b as a play on previous names, but I’ll switch if that’s your desire rather than just the nanny’s)

stands for decibels

August 26th, 2010
11:49 am

Lucy and the football.

I found a couple of nice republicans to play with! they’re reasonable! they say they’ll vote with us! hooray!

(c) 2009 & 2010

larry

August 26th, 2010
11:49 am

Sharon Angle, Rand Paul, Nathan Deal, Paul Broun, etc etc ……………

You think the voters are going to elect these clowns ?

Here is some intresting reading during the lunch break, especially for those who want to bash the stimulus plan.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/08599201368300

Pennsylvanian

August 26th, 2010
11:49 am

Jay is whistling by the graveyard. The Republicans will be ready to go with their agenda in January. Getting rid of Speaker Pelosi, and hopefully Senate Majority Leader Reid will be the best possible scenario for Obama to save his legacy. He will have to do a Clinton, and move to the center. He’ll be ok if he stays away from the interns….

Redneck Concert (R--and proud of it)

August 26th, 2010
11:49 am

Well, I’m awful glad FL Republicans finally caught on. I mean, if you’re a bank and you want to stop bank robberies, you don’t hire a bunch of cops. You hire a bank robber to tell you what to do. Same thing with this Republican that won the right to run for guvner. The guy headed up a corporation that stole billions from Medicare and Medicaid, so he ought to be able to stop Medicare and Medicaid fraud lickety-split.

Anyway, it’s a pretty good crop of Republicans that won the primaries. I’d like them more if they all were in favor of the Death Penalty for stuff like cheating and stealing and being librul, but you can’t have everything. At least every one of them knows how to say the word No. That’s a good start.

Time for my beanie-weenies so I’ll sign off. Be nice to each other, though I understand sometimes you got to cut loose, sort of like what always happens in church when it’s deathly quiet.

USinUK

August 26th, 2010
11:49 am

dB – more like “they say that if we let them amend the bill, they’ll vote for it. and this time, I’m SURE they mean it”

wash. rinse. repeat.

Paul

August 26th, 2010
11:50 am

“No cooperation, no compromise, only all-out warfare. ”

So Republicans have learned from Democrats over the last two years. Sad.

“Their base has given them no room whatsoever in which to manuever, and they know it. ”

I hope what happens is, the activist, get thru the primary base gives no room to maneuver. Come general election, maybe they’ll maneuver. I know, they’ve got a few far-outs who’re seem to agree with the activist base, but heck, that hasn’t stopped far-left Dems from getting reelected year after year. Difference is, those far-left Dems come from some pretty whacky districts where the far lefters view themselves as mainstream. Or as more enlightened. I’m not sure the general voter populace of the districts where some of the more conservative Republicans won primaries see the candidate as reasonable.

But if people vote for anybody but the incumbent or anybody but the professional politician, as happened in Alaska’s senate primary, anything could happen at the last minute. Talk about a come from behind performance.

I can see Russia from my house

August 26th, 2010
11:50 am

I will not be satisfied until Madame Palin is president.

larry

August 26th, 2010
11:50 am

Ill go out on a limb and predict that one U.S republican congressman will lose in an upset here in this state.

Mick

August 26th, 2010
11:50 am

If the repubs take back the house, then it shows the great power of fox news and talk radio demogogery, all they have done is say no. It’s a 24/7 pile on obama. The country cut bush some slack after 911 but obama was not given a minute to deal with the mess inherited. Maybe it would be better if the repubs do take the house. At some point they actually have to articulate a plan besides tax cuts to help the people of this country. Meanwhile, obama just might be more ameniable to fighting for what his base wants and shooting for the moon such as; card check, stabilize social security, pull out of all foreign entaglements, public option, and finally create some kind of WPA or CCC so people can get back to work.

USinUK

August 26th, 2010
11:52 am

“So Republicans have learned from Democrats over the last two years. Sad”

Paul. other than Soc Sec in 2005, what have the Dems ever fought the GOP tooth and nail over when they were in the minority?

USinUK

August 26th, 2010
11:53 am

Paul – to clarify – fought tooth and nail – and completely stymied them?

Bruno

August 26th, 2010
11:54 am

“He will have to do a Clinton, and move to the center.”

Pennsylvanian, I don’t think Obama is smart enough or humble enough to follow Clinton’s lead in that regard.

Paul

August 26th, 2010
11:56 am

Mick

“f the repubs take back the house, then it shows the great power of fox news and talk radio demogogery”

So, you’re saying the majority of all voters (Democrats and Republicans combined) are suckers?

USinUK

Point wasn’t majority or minority. In this case, it was the majority with the attitude “we won. We write the bills. Screw you. We’ll talk to you when we want someone to blame for not getting bills through.”

USinUK

August 26th, 2010
11:59 am

Paul – ““we won. We write the bills. Screw you. We’ll talk to you when we want someone to blame for not getting bills through.””

ahem.

1995, following the 1994 mid-terms.

Scout

August 26th, 2010
12:00 pm

“OFF TOPIC #1 – Headlines”

“Mood in Baghdad is grim as U.S. military prepares to move to “advise and assist” role”

“A Muslim soldier says he won’t deploy to Iraq and he wants to leave the U.S. military”

“Pakistani Taliban Hint at Attacks on Unarmed Aid Workers”

“Canadian Duo (Hiva Alizadeh and Ahmed Misbahuddin) Busted in Terror Plot”

“Iran Stoning Hearing Postponed Again”

Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

August 26th, 2010
12:01 pm

One problem, Jay, not at all to suggest that you are quarantined within your own liberal bubble or anything, the overwhelming majority of Americans do not want big gubbermint and they are scared by Obama’s fecklessness, arrogance, and extreme penchant to spen their money. The Republicans would lose this fall if, as you suggest, the public were of the mind to support in a mezican stand-off.

Palin/Ryan 2012 – 8675309 reasons to hope for change to that takes back Amerika!

Paul

August 26th, 2010
12:01 pm

USinUK 11:53

I don’t understand your clarification.

Don’t get me wrong, there was an element of Republicans who took the ‘no’ position. But I think it could have been with the thought “we’re gonna get shut down on anything substantive, the overall bill stinks, why be party to it?” So it was a political calculation. Other places there was a lot of back and forth neither party wanted to admit to too much. Occasionally something would slip, like Dick Durbin – think it was him – referring to the hundreds of Republican amendments and suggestions that made it into the final health care bill.

Paul

August 26th, 2010
12:02 pm

“I will not be satisfied until Madame Palin is president.”

There go progressives with their erotic fantasies, again -

Pennsylvanian

August 26th, 2010
12:03 pm

Mick @ 11:50 – “but obama was not given a minute to deal with the mess inherited.”

Obama’s polls were very strong after the inauguration. Most folks were willing to give him a fair shot at success. But then he had to open his mouth and blast the cops over Gates. It was clear then he does not have both oars in the water. The Dems should have run Hillary. They would be in a lot getter shape now.

Paul

August 26th, 2010
12:04 pm

USinUK 11:59

“ahem.

1995, following the 1994 mid-terms.”

So Democrats’ idea of how to best govern is to emulate that which they condemned in Republicans?!!?

Or to copy it because they saw it, rhetoric aside, as politically effective, hmmm?

Paul

August 26th, 2010
12:05 pm

Scout

““A Muslim soldier says he won’t deploy to Iraq and he wants to leave the U.S. military””

Court martial.

Prison.

Release with a dishonorable discharge.

Independent

August 26th, 2010
12:07 pm

If the repubs take back the house, then it shows the great power of fox news and talk radio demogogery, all they have done is say no. It’s a 24/7 pile on obama.

Guess that’s a lot like the KY application the legacy media gave us when they inserted Obama?

USinUK

August 26th, 2010
12:08 pm

Paul – so your idea is to have the GOP kick the Dems and treat them like second-class UN-AMERICAN/AMERICA-HATING/UNPATRIOTIC citizens for 10+ years, then reward that behavior??

Where's My Party?

August 26th, 2010
12:08 pm

LOL….oh my…..a liberal talking about “compromise” and “cooperation”. That’s funny.

USinUK

August 26th, 2010
12:08 pm

what paul said – 12:05 –

this is a volunteer army. you don’t want to go to a warzone? don’t volunteer.

USinUK

August 26th, 2010
12:09 pm

“LOL….oh my…..a liberal talking about “compromise” and “cooperation”. That’s funny.”

I’m surprised a republican could even spell those words (much less know what they mean)

Paul

August 26th, 2010
12:09 pm

USinUK

How on earth did you get any of that from what I posted?

Saul Good

August 26th, 2010
12:10 pm

Path to congress: A building in Manhattan that 99.9999999% will never see… nor will it effect their lives in even the most smallest of ways…and hate for Mexicans (here legally or not)… it’s simply how the “right” brings their “base” to the polls. If/when they win… just like Dubya had Rove creating diversions to get him elected (gays and abortion)…well seems to me not ONE state allowed gays to be married when he was running…seems to me that abortions are still legal as well.

Hate, bigotry and fear… it’s what the “right” runs on to get out their “peeps” to the polls….

Taylor

August 26th, 2010
12:10 pm

I’m tired of hearing about the “Party of No.” It’s a ridiculous sound-bite created by Democrats to vilify Republicans. Republicans have been saying “no” for very good reasons, which they have clearly stated. And they’ve been right. It’s not to be antagonistic or adversarial, but to regain necessary and appropriate control of and restraint in a government that’s completely out of control.

The only problem is that they haven’t really presented a comprehensive and cohesive plan to compare to (and combat) the Democrats’ moronic platform. Without a clear message of a better plan, we Republicans really have nothing to grab on to and “sell” to others (mostly independents). It’s a true leap of faith that, once installed, the Republicans will, in fact, develop and implement a strong program that makes sense and meets their stated objectives of controlling spending, reducing the size of government, investing in the private sector through tax cuts and incentives, etc. I’m willing to take that leap, but I expect a lot out of my party’s representatives and, if they don’t step up, they’ll definitely be hearing from me regularly.

ty webb

August 26th, 2010
12:10 pm

the question is not if ,but can speaker pelosi cry when she relinquishes her speakership? what with all the botox and all. And has anyone ever seen her blink?

Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

August 26th, 2010
12:10 pm

Here is the bottom line, America wants legislations who will say “no” to a bad idea and they believe that evry idea Obama has had is a bad idea.

Paul

August 26th, 2010
12:10 pm

USinUK

I thought my point was the cycle continues not matter which party’s in power. And I’m waiting for one of them to break the cycle.

Mick

August 26th, 2010
12:11 pm

**So, you’re saying the majority of all voters (Democrats and Republicans combined) are suckers?**

No, I didn’t say that – you did. My point is, why would anyone be ready to hand power back to republicans? It doesn’t make sense. The democrats at least have some connection to the working man while republicans are unabashedly for the rich. Name one program that they have promoted that would help the working man?

Scout

August 26th, 2010
12:11 pm

Paul:

How much you want to bet they just let him out ? You know, so we can have better relations with the Muslim community. We always reach out to them but notice they never reach out to us.

At least he will be on the FBI surveillance list.

Paul

August 26th, 2010
12:11 pm

Saul

“hate for Mexicans (here legally or not)…”

Source?

USinUK

August 26th, 2010
12:12 pm

Paul – 12:09 – that’s how things were from 1995-2007, particularly after 9/11 (see: the treatment of Max Cleland).

The Leg Lamp is a "major award" much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel.

August 26th, 2010
12:12 pm

Jay,

Save this article and be sure to get back with us after the midterms to see how accurate your prognosticating is. Until then, it’s a big “who knows”.

retiredds

August 26th, 2010
12:13 pm

Jay, I disagree. The fact that the Republicans have been in the minority has allowed them the luxury of saying no to everything. And as the US economy has struggled (over their mismanagement during the Bush/Cheney years) they gloat. If they take the House of Representatives then they will have to stand up and be counted. Just saying no will no longer be a luxury. They will then have to begin to participate and offer concrete solutions to today’s thorny and complicated issues and show results. That in the long run would be a good thing. It has been my experience that when one party controls the legislature and the White House (or governor’s mansion), very little good comes from that.

Also it looks like the Tea Party is on a roll right now but we’ll see how their candidates fare in the more general election. I could be wrong, but I don’t think they will fare as well as they are now only having to run against only Republican party candidates.

The party of “no” can only do that for so long. Let’s remember it has been less than two years under the current Democratic majority. If, and when, the Republicans get back some power they will be judged on what they accomplish, not their slogans. (As an aside, we have had Republicans in control of the Statehouse and Governor’s mansion in GA for eight years and it does not seem that they have any better answers than the opposition party. Some might say, “well the budget is balanced.” Yes it is, but if the state constitution did not mandate it, where do you thing GA would be … think California)

Scout

August 26th, 2010
12:14 pm

Mick:

If the government would get off their backs, all of the “rich” people who expand their various industries and lots of “working men” would be doing just that ………….. working !

As it is, they are holding on to their profits and not investing until they see how long we are going to have to put up with “Che” Obama.

The Leg Lamp is a "major award" much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel.

August 26th, 2010
12:14 pm

“DEM JOKES THAT PELOSI COULD DIE BEFORE NEXT YEAR ”

The dems have such a wonderful sense of humor.

USinUK

August 26th, 2010
12:14 pm

Paul – see my 11:49 – Dems have reached out to the GOP. they have compromised. they have removed legislative items that the GOP opposed … only to be kicked yet again.

so, sorry, I don’t 100% agree with your “we won, screw you” assessment of the situation.

The Leg Lamp is a "major award" much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel.

August 26th, 2010
12:15 pm

Co-chair of Obama debt panel: Social Security is ‘milk cow with 310 million t*ts!’…

RW-(the original)

August 26th, 2010
12:15 pm

Paul,

It seems to me that one of the most famous pieces of compromise legislation in recent years was NCLB. I guess people who claim compromise creates unity might be right since about everybody hates that one.

stands for decibels

August 26th, 2010
12:16 pm

can’t really stop and chat now, but I do gots to attend to one Very Serious Item:

Not sure about the initials. The blog nanny told me that by using b instead of d I was deliberately trying to denigrate you or something

For about a nanosecond, awhile back, I was going to let you have it because I took your initials to mean “stands for b—s—”… then I realized, um, the B is capitalized in “dB”…

Which is another way of saying it don’t make me no nevermind.

later.

The Leg Lamp is a "major award" much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel.

August 26th, 2010
12:16 pm

Saudi couple ‘hammer 24 nails’ into maid…

USinUK

August 26th, 2010
12:16 pm

heading out … need to pick up some onions for masala burgers tonight!!

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/recipes/2010/08/11/garam-masala-chicken-burgers-tomato-relish/

have a good night!!

Bruno

August 26th, 2010
12:17 pm

Looking ahead to Obama losing the 2012 Presidential race, what possible Republican candidate would be acceptable to the Libs here? I don’t see any outstanding candidates right now, but am willing to give Ron Paul a second look based on his common sense stances on a lot of issues. He’s not a particularly dynamic or physically attractive person, which will likely hurt his chances.

Mick

August 26th, 2010
12:17 pm

scout

**As it is, they are holding on to their profits and not investing **

Thats plain unamerican. They would actually increase their profits if they invested in creating jobs which then would create more demand. Unfortunately, personal wealth and greed rule the day.

The Leg Lamp is a "major award" much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel.

August 26th, 2010
12:18 pm

BIDEN READY FOR MORE SPENDING: ‘This is a chance to do something big, man!’…

StJ

August 26th, 2010
12:19 pm

Doesn’t matter who the GOP “stocks up” on. The arrogant National Socialist party has run amok the past two years with its near-supermajorities. Now the economy is in the toilet with no relief in sight, and all the Dems do is pass bills that jack up taxes on the producers of society and/or micromanage their lives. (Then they call it “helping the people”…when the truth is “helping THEIR people”).

The Republicans have one more chance to “fix” things which they had a hand in screwing up…and if they mess that up, things are gonna get real ugly real fast.

Mick

August 26th, 2010
12:20 pm

bruno

There is no one on the republican bench as of now – they are just victims of circumstance. Expect the party to reach out to jeb for a hail mary.

Independent

August 26th, 2010
12:21 pm

USinUK, Cleland didn’t represent his constituency, hence he was booted from office. Cleland was a liberal believing it was 1969 once again in a state that rejected left-wing liberalism. Plain and simple.

Paul

August 26th, 2010
12:21 pm

Mick

I didn’t ’say’ that. I asked a question. You wrote ““If the repubs take back the house, then it shows the great power of fox news and talk radio demogogery”

Only way that can happen is if the majority of voters got bamboozled by the entity you said would be responsible – Fox. So I asked if you really believe that. Or something else.

Have to be careful with the ‘rich’ comparisons. Been posted here before that for the last decade or so the majority of Wall Street fat cat contributions go to Democrats. Special interest tax preferences continue under Democratic leadership. Neither party is pure when it comes to carrying water for rich interests.

Why would people vote for a Republican? Because people are impatient. They want quick results. Economy hasn’t turned around? Give someone else a chance. Can’t say the same about expanding the war, or increasing Defense spending, ’cause in those regards Dems and Reps are indistinguishable.

Favorite quote gets posted here from time to time: “But on the central issue of are we going to have corporations be our government or are the people going to be our government, the principle difference between the Republican, Democratic parties, with certain exceptions, the principle difference is the velocity with which their knees hit the floor when corporations knock on their door.”

Ralph Nader

RW-(the original)

August 26th, 2010
12:22 pm

sfd,

Actually it went to a name further back, but I’ll change it anyway since hardly anybody would remember that one. Plus the nanny might give me an extra scoop of ice cream for playing nice.

The Leg Lamp is a "major award" much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel.

August 26th, 2010
12:22 pm

I wonder if those 1st amendment advocates who support the NYC mosque also support Glen Beck’s rally this weekend?

larry

August 26th, 2010
12:22 pm

The Republicans have one more chance to “fix” things which they had a hand in screwing up…and if they mess that up, things are gonna get real ugly real fast.

They had eight years to ” fix” things and thanks to that ” fix” we almost had another depression.

This country can not afford any more of their ” fixes” .

Scout

August 26th, 2010
12:22 pm

Mick:

Disagree.

They are going to hold off until they see if Obama is unseated. They don’t want to see their investments go up in taxes and excessive interference. I can’t blame them. It’s Obama’s socialistic policies that have cost so many their jobs.

Bruno

August 26th, 2010
12:23 pm

“Hate, bigotry and fear… it’s what the “right” runs on to get out their “peeps” to the polls….”

Saul–And the “left” is different how?? Open class warfare, dire predictions that civil rights will be taken away for minorities, and claims that Social Security will be taken away seem to be staples during election times for Democratic candidates.

@@

August 26th, 2010
12:24 pm

I know USUK has headed out, but this?

I’m surprised a republican could even spell those words (much less know what they mean)

It’s your kind of superior attitude that’s gotten the American people at odds with your party.

Keep it up! It’s so “endearing”.

Paul

August 26th, 2010
12:24 pm

USinUK 12:14

Just because one statement is true (what you cited) does not mean another statement (what I cited) is not true. They can both have elements of truth. As I said, there was behind the scenes cooperation and trading going on. Neither party sees it to its advantage to highlight that, though.

Joe

August 26th, 2010
12:24 pm

’m tired of hearing about the “Party of No.” It’s a ridiculous sound-bite created by Democrats to vilify Republicans. Republicans have been saying “no” for very good reasons, which they have clearly stated. And they’ve been right. It’s not to be antagonistic or adversarial, but to regain necessary and appropriate control of and restraint in a government that’s completely out of control.

B.S.!!! Senate Republicans filibuster (i.e., block up or down votes) legislation they support. Our own Johnny Isakson has even been caught at this. He has voted to block up or down votes, but then when the filibuster failed, he voted for the legislation that he tried to prevent a vote on just a few minutes earlier.

It’s not rocket science. The abuse of filibusters by Senate Republicans in both this Congress and the previous Congress (the last two years under Bush) were for one reason and one reason only–so that Dems can’t get credit for their successes. (Remember Republicans supported health care mandates before they didn’t; Republicans supported cap-and-trade before they didn’t; Republicans supported path to citizenship for immigrants before they didn’t; Republicans supported unpaid for fiscal stimulus before they didn’t,…).

Scout

August 26th, 2010
12:24 pm

The Leg Lamp is a “major award” much like Cynthia Tucker’s Pulitzer and Obama’s Nobel.:

Of course not …………. the Ground Zero Mosque (also known as Obama Stadium) is so “American” while Beck’s rally is “mean spirited”.

The old double standard. What did you expect .

The Leg Lamp is a "major award" much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel.

August 26th, 2010
12:25 pm

The state’s slogan is “Don’t mess with Texas.” But the federal Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) is doing just that, and at stake is whether the Obama administration can impose its global-warming agenda without a vote of Congress.

President Obama’s EPA is already well down the path to regulating greenhouse gases under the Clean Air Act, something the act was not designed to do. It has a problem, however, because shoehorning greenhouse gases into that 40-year-old law would force churches, schools, warehouses, commercial kitchens and other sources to obtain costly and time-consuming permits. It would grind the economy to a halt, and the likely backlash would doom the whole scheme.

Mick

August 26th, 2010
12:25 pm

paul

I was talking about catapaulting the propaganda, you know? With leaders like mcconnell and boehner, these are not people who inspire confidence or even present a plan. The media assault keeps them in the game or else they have nothing.

Independent

August 26th, 2010
12:26 pm

“Thats plain unamerican. They would actually increase their profits if they invested in creating jobs which then would create more demand. Unfortunately, personal wealth and greed rule the day.”

Must have slept through that Econ101 class. Let me guess, majored in music, art, or social science?

RW-(the original)

August 26th, 2010
12:26 pm

Bruno,

Ron Paul has some serious albeit old baggage that would be carted all over were he ever to be the nominee and speaking of old he’s also going to be 77 in 2012.

Scout

August 26th, 2010
12:26 pm

Bruno:

The “D” in Democrat stands for Demagoguery !

larry

August 26th, 2010
12:26 pm

Open class warfare, dire predictions that civil rights will be taken away for minorities, and claims that Social Security will be taken away seem to be staples during election times for Democratic candidates.

Gee, i wonder where they get that from . It couldnt be from Rand Paul or Sharon Angle. Nahhhhhhhh, they are just making that up .

Mick

August 26th, 2010
12:27 pm

scout

OK – but point out to me his “socialistic” policies?

Scout

August 26th, 2010
12:27 pm

Mick, Mick, Mick ………….. you are much smarter than that !

Bruno

August 26th, 2010
12:28 pm

“Expect the party to reach out to jeb for a hail mary.”

Mick–I sincerely hope not, because that is how I interpret the nomination of Sarah Palin for VP. As Matti and others have pointed out, there were several other, more qualified lady Republicans available for the spot if choosing a woman was important.

“Cleland was a liberal believing it was 1969 once again”

Seems to be still working for John Lewis, Independent.

“Favorite quote gets posted here from time to time”

Paul, what are you trying to do, get on AmVet’s good side by quoting Nader?? ;-)

Mick

August 26th, 2010
12:29 pm

independent

I’ve done quite well thank you. Give a man a job and a paycheck and he will spend it, now thats econ 101. Hey, be my guest and defend the elite money hoarders, the great equalizer is death – it won’t be going with them.

Bruno

August 26th, 2010
12:30 pm

“Ron Paul has some serious albeit old baggage that would be carted all over were he ever to be the nominee and speaking of old he’s also going to be 77 in 2012.”

I’ll grant you the age factor, RW. I think surveys have shown that people typically vote for the more attractive, vitalistic candidate. McCain didn’t look so hot when in the same room with Obama.

You have any good candidates in mind?

Mick

August 26th, 2010
12:34 pm

**You have any good candidates in mind?**

About the only acceptable candidate I can see is jesus coming back to reclaim the kingdom. Outside of that – nothing on both sides.

Paul

August 26th, 2010
12:35 pm

Mick 12:25

Thanks.

RW-(the original)

August 26th, 2010
12:36 pm

I wonder if those 1st amendment advocates who support the NYC mosque also support Glen Beck’s rally this weekend?

Leg Lamp,

I doubt it since those supporters are pretty selective as to which parts of the 1st amendment they believe in.

Independent

August 26th, 2010
12:36 pm

Bruno, a basic course in civics is in order. Cleland was a senator. A senator is elected to represent an entire state. A majority of the state at election time rejected Cleland. They rejected him because he was white, a veteran, or disabled, they rejected him because he was liberal. John Lewis is a representative. A representative is elected to represent a congressional district. John Lewis’ district is a majority black district. John Lewis is re-elcted because he is black and a liberal.