GOP stocking up on not-ready-for-primetime players

“And I think the consequences of that would be dire both for the country”

The because the country has being doing soooo well under a Democratic controlled senate/house the past 4 years!

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It will simply be the party of “NO” shining brightly and showing just exactly HOW they have no plans to fix the economy…except to keep every bill penned by dems blocked… all while talking about Tax cuts…you know…those tax cuts that are STILL in place and have no created any jobs and have only added to the deficit.

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Would like to see how much better a President we’ll have with the ‘foaming at the mouth’ crowd in charge of the House. I agree, PrezBo will look more measured, moderate, and in control while uncapping his veto pen.

I’d like to know what spending will be cut if the R’s take control though. WAIT! The brown folks are trying to build a community center in Manhattan! Now what was the original question?

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Muckraking tea party protestor gone wild–Venezuela style

We missed an important moment at the Miss Universe pageant on Saturday
night. The outgoing Miss Universe made a little political statement on
her final catwalk that was visible to Venezuelans but probably no one
else, holding up an obsolete seven star pre-Chavez era flag. She did it
to signal distress in her country, and nowhere is that move evident than
in Venezuela’s violent crime. This week the news came out that Caracas
is the most violent city in the world, a distinction it holds over Kabul, Baghdad, Sao Paulo and Ciudad Juarez.

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Yes, I’m sure if the democrats retain a majority they will be FULL of “cooperation” and “compromise.”

The only way either party will ever compromise or cooperate is if neither party has a filibuster proof majority.

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Don’t know why you believe that, jay.

Obama is a classic example of saying one thing during the campaign and doing something entirely different once elected. Did the dems learn anything after being exiled “to the wilderness” (AmVet’s fave) for so long? No!

I’d like to see a mix-up to fix-up.

The dems present themselves as warm and fuzzy, when in fact the majority of Americans have seen them as anything but…

Republicans will be coming in from the cold. The American people will be keeping a close eye on them.

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Looks like I was missing out on some serious leg humping downstairs.

Or as Peter in Office Space said, “I wouldn’t exactly say I’ve been missing it.”

Jay, very good analysis of the potential fallout. But I still have doubts they will make the inroads they are convinced of.

Two thoughts. One, how in the h,e, double ell could anyone with an IQ over say 70, vote for yet “more of the same” neo-cons?

Two, how much more damage can they possibly inflict on the nation after that 8 year Reign of Error?

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Republicans are willing to compromise.

…as evidenced by their charming willingness to accept a private insurance mandate (a la Romneycare) rather than a public option, and cap-and-trade rather than a carbon tax.

oh, wait.

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“Looks like I was missing out on some serious leg humping downstairs.”

Don’t worry, bro, I threw one in there for you as well.

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dB – “Republicans are willing to compromise”

Lucy and the football.

nuff said.

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If Dems lose the House this year, I pray that Jay is right about 2012. Unfortunately, I don’t give the voters as much credit as he does. Too many of them are running around with “liberal” media drivel in their heads. The fact that they’re planning on turning the House (and possibly the Senate) over to proud Tea Party/Republican ignoramuses this fall is evidence of that.

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sfb/d,

I said there’s no need to compromise when the limits of the debate are real bad and tragic. (Not sure about the initials. The blog nanny told me that by using b instead of d I was deliberately trying to denigrate you or something so I don’t know if I missed a message from you. I saw the b as a play on previous names, but I’ll switch if that’s your desire rather than just the nanny’s)

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Sharon Angle, Rand Paul, Nathan Deal, Paul Broun, etc etc ……………

You think the voters are going to elect these clowns ?

Here is some intresting reading during the lunch break, especially for those who want to bash the stimulus plan.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/08599201368300

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Well, I’m awful glad FL Republicans finally caught on. I mean, if you’re a bank and you want to stop bank robberies, you don’t hire a bunch of cops. You hire a bank robber to tell you what to do. Same thing with this Republican that won the right to run for guvner. The guy headed up a corporation that stole billions from Medicare and Medicaid, so he ought to be able to stop Medicare and Medicaid fraud lickety-split.

Anyway, it’s a pretty good crop of Republicans that won the primaries. I’d like them more if they all were in favor of the Death Penalty for stuff like cheating and stealing and being librul, but you can’t have everything. At least every one of them knows how to say the word No. That’s a good start.

Time for my beanie-weenies so I’ll sign off. Be nice to each other, though I understand sometimes you got to cut loose, sort of like what always happens in church when it’s deathly quiet.

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“No cooperation, no compromise, only all-out warfare. ”

So Republicans have learned from Democrats over the last two years. Sad.

“Their base has given them no room whatsoever in which to manuever, and they know it. ”

I hope what happens is, the activist, get thru the primary base gives no room to maneuver. Come general election, maybe they’ll maneuver. I know, they’ve got a few far-outs who’re seem to agree with the activist base, but heck, that hasn’t stopped far-left Dems from getting reelected year after year. Difference is, those far-left Dems come from some pretty whacky districts where the far lefters view themselves as mainstream. Or as more enlightened. I’m not sure the general voter populace of the districts where some of the more conservative Republicans won primaries see the candidate as reasonable.

But if people vote for anybody but the incumbent or anybody but the professional politician, as happened in Alaska’s senate primary, anything could happen at the last minute. Talk about a come from behind performance.

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Ill go out on a limb and predict that one U.S republican congressman will lose in an upset here in this state.

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“So Republicans have learned from Democrats over the last two years. Sad”

Paul. other than Soc Sec in 2005, what have the Dems ever fought the GOP tooth and nail over when they were in the minority?

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“He will have to do a Clinton, and move to the center.”

Pennsylvanian, I don’t think Obama is smart enough or humble enough to follow Clinton’s lead in that regard.

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Paul – ““we won. We write the bills. Screw you. We’ll talk to you when we want someone to blame for not getting bills through.””

ahem.

1995, following the 1994 mid-terms.

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One problem, Jay, not at all to suggest that you are quarantined within your own liberal bubble or anything, the overwhelming majority of Americans do not want big gubbermint and they are scared by Obama’s fecklessness, arrogance, and extreme penchant to spen their money. The Republicans would lose this fall if, as you suggest, the public were of the mind to support in a mezican stand-off.

Palin/Ryan 2012 – 8675309 reasons to hope for change to that takes back Amerika!

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“I will not be satisfied until Madame Palin is president.”

There go progressives with their erotic fantasies, again -

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USinUK 11:59

“ahem.

1995, following the 1994 mid-terms.”

So Democrats’ idea of how to best govern is to emulate that which they condemned in Republicans?!!?

Or to copy it because they saw it, rhetoric aside, as politically effective, hmmm?

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If the repubs take back the house, then it shows the great power of fox news and talk radio demogogery, all they have done is say no. It’s a 24/7 pile on obama.

Guess that’s a lot like the KY application the legacy media gave us when they inserted Obama?

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LOL….oh my…..a liberal talking about “compromise” and “cooperation”. That’s funny.

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“LOL….oh my…..a liberal talking about “compromise” and “cooperation”. That’s funny.”

I’m surprised a republican could even spell those words (much less know what they mean)

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Path to congress: A building in Manhattan that 99.9999999% will never see… nor will it effect their lives in even the most smallest of ways…and hate for Mexicans (here legally or not)… it’s simply how the “right” brings their “base” to the polls. If/when they win… just like Dubya had Rove creating diversions to get him elected (gays and abortion)…well seems to me not ONE state allowed gays to be married when he was running…seems to me that abortions are still legal as well.

Hate, bigotry and fear… it’s what the “right” runs on to get out their “peeps” to the polls….

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the question is not if ,but can speaker pelosi cry when she relinquishes her speakership? what with all the botox and all. And has anyone ever seen her blink?

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USinUK

I thought my point was the cycle continues not matter which party’s in power. And I’m waiting for one of them to break the cycle.

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Paul:

How much you want to bet they just let him out ? You know, so we can have better relations with the Muslim community. We always reach out to them but notice they never reach out to us.

At least he will be on the FBI surveillance list.

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Paul – 12:09 – that’s how things were from 1995-2007, particularly after 9/11 (see: the treatment of Max Cleland).

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Jay, I disagree. The fact that the Republicans have been in the minority has allowed them the luxury of saying no to everything. And as the US economy has struggled (over their mismanagement during the Bush/Cheney years) they gloat. If they take the House of Representatives then they will have to stand up and be counted. Just saying no will no longer be a luxury. They will then have to begin to participate and offer concrete solutions to today’s thorny and complicated issues and show results. That in the long run would be a good thing. It has been my experience that when one party controls the legislature and the White House (or governor’s mansion), very little good comes from that.

Also it looks like the Tea Party is on a roll right now but we’ll see how their candidates fare in the more general election. I could be wrong, but I don’t think they will fare as well as they are now only having to run against only Republican party candidates.

The party of “no” can only do that for so long. Let’s remember it has been less than two years under the current Democratic majority. If, and when, the Republicans get back some power they will be judged on what they accomplish, not their slogans. (As an aside, we have had Republicans in control of the Statehouse and Governor’s mansion in GA for eight years and it does not seem that they have any better answers than the opposition party. Some might say, “well the budget is balanced.” Yes it is, but if the state constitution did not mandate it, where do you thing GA would be … think California)

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“DEM JOKES THAT PELOSI COULD DIE BEFORE NEXT YEAR ”

The dems have such a wonderful sense of humor.

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Co-chair of Obama debt panel: Social Security is ‘milk cow with 310 million t*ts!’…

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can’t really stop and chat now, but I do gots to attend to one Very Serious Item:

Not sure about the initials. The blog nanny told me that by using b instead of d I was deliberately trying to denigrate you or something

For about a nanosecond, awhile back, I was going to let you have it because I took your initials to mean “stands for b—s—”… then I realized, um, the B is capitalized in “dB”…

Which is another way of saying it don’t make me no nevermind.

later.

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heading out … need to pick up some onions for masala burgers tonight!!

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/recipes/2010/08/11/garam-masala-chicken-burgers-tomato-relish/

have a good night!!

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scout

**As it is, they are holding on to their profits and not investing **

Thats plain unamerican. They would actually increase their profits if they invested in creating jobs which then would create more demand. Unfortunately, personal wealth and greed rule the day.

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Doesn’t matter who the GOP “stocks up” on. The arrogant National Socialist party has run amok the past two years with its near-supermajorities. Now the economy is in the toilet with no relief in sight, and all the Dems do is pass bills that jack up taxes on the producers of society and/or micromanage their lives. (Then they call it “helping the people”…when the truth is “helping THEIR people”).

The Republicans have one more chance to “fix” things which they had a hand in screwing up…and if they mess that up, things are gonna get real ugly real fast.

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USinUK, Cleland didn’t represent his constituency, hence he was booted from office. Cleland was a liberal believing it was 1969 once again in a state that rejected left-wing liberalism. Plain and simple.

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sfd,

Actually it went to a name further back, but I’ll change it anyway since hardly anybody would remember that one. Plus the nanny might give me an extra scoop of ice cream for playing nice.

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The Republicans have one more chance to “fix” things which they had a hand in screwing up…and if they mess that up, things are gonna get real ugly real fast.

They had eight years to ” fix” things and thanks to that ” fix” we almost had another depression.

This country can not afford any more of their ” fixes” .

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“Hate, bigotry and fear… it’s what the “right” runs on to get out their “peeps” to the polls….”

Saul–And the “left” is different how?? Open class warfare, dire predictions that civil rights will be taken away for minorities, and claims that Social Security will be taken away seem to be staples during election times for Democratic candidates.

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USinUK 12:14

Just because one statement is true (what you cited) does not mean another statement (what I cited) is not true. They can both have elements of truth. As I said, there was behind the scenes cooperation and trading going on. Neither party sees it to its advantage to highlight that, though.

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The Leg Lamp is a “major award” much like Cynthia Tucker’s Pulitzer and Obama’s Nobel.:

Of course not …………. the Ground Zero Mosque (also known as Obama Stadium) is so “American” while Beck’s rally is “mean spirited”.

The old double standard. What did you expect .

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paul

I was talking about catapaulting the propaganda, you know? With leaders like mcconnell and boehner, these are not people who inspire confidence or even present a plan. The media assault keeps them in the game or else they have nothing.

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Bruno,

Ron Paul has some serious albeit old baggage that would be carted all over were he ever to be the nominee and speaking of old he’s also going to be 77 in 2012.

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Open class warfare, dire predictions that civil rights will be taken away for minorities, and claims that Social Security will be taken away seem to be staples during election times for Democratic candidates.

Gee, i wonder where they get that from . It couldnt be from Rand Paul or Sharon Angle. Nahhhhhhhh, they are just making that up .

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Mick, Mick, Mick ………….. you are much smarter than that !

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independent

I’ve done quite well thank you. Give a man a job and a paycheck and he will spend it, now thats econ 101. Hey, be my guest and defend the elite money hoarders, the great equalizer is death – it won’t be going with them.

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**You have any good candidates in mind?**

About the only acceptable candidate I can see is jesus coming back to reclaim the kingdom. Outside of that – nothing on both sides.

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I wonder if those 1st amendment advocates who support the NYC mosque also support Glen Beck’s rally this weekend?

Leg Lamp,

I doubt it since those supporters are pretty selective as to which parts of the 1st amendment they believe in.

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Make that not because he was white, etc.

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Leg lamp & scout –

Actually yes, support right to build a place of worship, suppport Becks right to hold a rally, support the KKK to have a rally, and support the Gay pride parade. I am not likely to ever attend any of the above, but they are still have the right to do it.

To even ask such a question shows your complete lack of understanding, one of the many things that annoys me so about the ‘conservatives’ among us.

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RW-(the original)

“It seems to me that one of the most famous pieces of compromise legislation in recent years was NCLB. I guess people who claim compromise creates unity might be right since about everybody hates that one.”

I’d bet even those who drafted it hate what it’s become once the federal and state bureaucracies got done with it. It’s a good club for funneling or withholding funding to advance a bureaucrat’s good ideas, though. //sarc//

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Bruno

AmVet has a good side?

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BLAH, BLAH, BLAH,

As an independent conservative, I have to tell I am not happy with either party. On the Republican side, I see no clear direction nor do I see any concrete plans. I wish a leader would emerge with clear focus. I don’t like the Tea Party Movement and the other right wing groups. It is bad for the country.

I don’t like the Democrat side either. I see no direction and no cooperation. The Democrats were elected into office, however, I don’t feel that gives them the right disregard the general populace and their opinion. And the spread of mis-information or the lack of information is a contributing factor. The distain I hold for the right wing groups I hold as well for the left wing groups..

A lot of what repeated on this site comes from either the right or the left entertainment stations. And you have to love the sources of the “facts”. A left or right media outlet, a blog, and in some cases, people make crap up…..

Where you have the former Governor Palin group on one side, you have the equally as bad Speaker of the House Pelosi side. They both scare the devil out of me…..

Watching FOX, MSNBC, CNN or the major broadcasting stations I find to be insulting to my intelligence. They are there purely for entertainment and seldom portray the actual facts. Both sides have their agenda, and they are somewhat successful selling their crap to the populace.

The really scary part, so many people believe the crap.

Okay, off my soap box and back to work….

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I though all the not ready for prime time players were waiting
on the GOP 2012 Presidential Candidate bench?

What did Arlo Guthrie call it? The “Group W” Bench?

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The “Group W” bench would be better than the existing “F Troop” administration.

I loved that TV show, though.

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Bruno:

If you’re trying to paint me as some kind of racist myself, @@…

Not at all, Bruno. jay’s left-wingers might tell you to go hide under your bed, but not me….I’m still here in Clayton County enjoying the good life. Getting to know, and learning to appreciate my neighbors.

You’re not the only one who denigrates Clayton County. We get it from both sides.

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RW (the original):

Not of the Amendments are absolute.

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Bruno:

you know my feelings about black women, especially those right off the boat from Africa…..

All too well….they’re good for one thing, and one thing only. Were I a man, it wouldn’t be something I’d boast about though. I’ve also noticed you’re big on “spreading that kinda love around.”

Whatever, Bruno. I think you fail to see the flaws within yourself. But that’s just my opinion.

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Mick re: “F” Troop:

The Chief ………. “Me make funny” !

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Jay,
Just got the following in an e-mail.

There are many people out there calling the Muslim Community Center in NYC as “Insensitive”. Well, I think this is highly insensitive too.

Not talking about legal rights here…both have the rights, but It’s not right to be “insensitive” about one and not the other…What do you think?
——————————————————

August 28th is an important day in American history. On that day, forty-seven years ago, Martin Luther King Jr. delivered his famous “I Have a Dream Speech” at the Lincoln Memorial. His message gave voice to the voiceless and his vision promoted a just, equal, diverse and compassionate country.

This year, a very different message is going to be spread from the very ground on which King once stood. Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin will hold a rally at the Lincoln Memorial.

The racist, raging and hate-filled tenor of Beck, Palin and the Tea Party movement is in direct contrast to the noble vision of Dr. King. We cannot sit idly by and let King’s vision and legacy be hijacked for political purposes.

Dr. King once declared that “Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter”.

We will not be silent on this matter. Honor the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr’s struggle for a just and equal America.

Sign our pledge and leave a comment to commit to stand with his vision, and against Beck’s hate, on August 28th.

Joining us in this effort are our friends at Alternet, Credo, Celebrate the Dream, Campaign for America’s Future, Media Matters for America, True Majority, PowerPAC and Progress Now.

Let’s stand together as a collective voice against those who wish to hijack history.

Yours,
Robert Greenwald and the Brave New Foundation team

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LIMITS ON BILL OF RIGHTS:

First Amendment – Establishment Clause, Free Exercise Clause; freedom of speech, of the press, and of assembly; right to petition.

Except: “Fire” in a crowded theatre.

Second Amendment – Militia (United States), Sovereign state, Right to keep and bear arms.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Except: Machine guns, tanks and mortars to name but a few regulations.

Third Amendment – Protection from quartering of troops. No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

Notice that the prescribed “law” can force you to quarter “troops” in “time of war”. Wouldn’t that be fun !

Fourth Amendment – Protection from unreasonable search and seizure.

Exeption: There are several exceptions to getting a warrant ………. safety, hot pursuit, destruction of evidence, plain view, etc.

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President Obama has many battles to fight on the economic front: high unemployment, slowing growth, trillion dollar deficits, to name a few. Some of these issues he inherited but some he exacerbated says key members of “big business.”

This week, Intel CEO Paul Otellini and Jim Tisch, CEO of Loews Corp. both blamed the President’s policies for creating an environment of “uncertainty” that is crippling America’s economy.
The Obama administration is “flummoxed by their experiment in Keynesian economics not working,” Otellini said Monday in a speech in Aspen.

Higher taxes and more regulation add an additional $1 billion to building a semiconductor manufacturing plant in the U.S. vs. overseas, the CEO said.

As a result, “the next big thing will not be invented here. Jobs will not be created here,” Otellini said, warning of “an inevitable erosion and shift of wealth, much like we’re seeing today in Europe…this is the bitter truth.”

Loews’ Tisch made similarly themed comments in a Bloomberg interview on Wednesday. “Part of the problem is that business has very little confidence in what’s been going on and very little visibility,” he said.

Tisch has also been highly critical of the President’s response to the Deepwater Horizon explosion and leak. Loews owns 50% of Diamond Offshore Drilling – the U.S.’s largest deep-water driller.

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Beck’s 8/28 rally is very much an attempt to develop unity. Too bad “progressives” would prefer to shout it down.

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Scrappy:

You need to get real here ………….

1) KKK March : Yes, segregation has “ended” but there are plenty of “ALL black” high schools right here in Atlanta. Where have you been? Try holding it there and see how the parents (and Al Sharpton) react which is all that is happening with the mosque ………. they just don’t want it there.

2) Gay Rights March : Just try that one with the “pre-school” parents. Go ahead ……. I double dog dare you.

3) I bet you have a convenant if you live in a subdivision that says you can’t put a “little barn” in your back yard and that you fence has to be a certain type. Accomodations are made all the time so as not to “offend” thy neighbor. The distance from Ground Zero that is permissable? Well, that is up to the New Yorkers. What ARROGANCE the mosque planners are showing to people who lost loved ones that day.

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RW,
And you think the day Beck picked for his rally was just a coincidence?

We both know better…it’s not unity he’s promoting.

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Republicans who stand in principals will not and should not cooperate with the America destroying hoppie-and changie bills from the democrats.

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Bruno:

Which is why I don’t go around tooting my own horn about what a great Christian I am.

NO? You just like telling other Christians where they fail to meet the standards set by you.

I’ve said numerous times that there’ll be no dust gathering on my sandals, but I admire Christians like Scout who will testify for their faith. I’ve never denigrated ANY religion, never having walked a mile in their sandals.

Left-wingers and YOU do it all the time.

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I really am afraid of the Republicans taking over again; the next time they fly this airplane into the ground, it won’t arise again, and we will be a third-world nation forever.
While everyone says they’ll have to put forth proposals to actually run the country, it will just be more eternal tax breaks for the rich and blame the deficit on Obama.
Whatever happened to the entrepreneurial spirit in America? All I hear is that business is sitting on two trillion dollars in cash, and they are afraid to spend it because they aren’t guaranteed a good profit. It used to be that people would take a risk for a return, but no longer.
As for the Republicans and compromise, I seem to remember Boehner saying that they were going to vote no on everything, long before anything even came to the floor.

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POLL: Voters Now Trust Republicans More On All 10 Key Issues…

Polls are controlled by a bunch of dangerous right wing extremists, right?

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Matti:

Look ………… there goes a mongrel puppy !

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Scout,

Dog is love!

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emo

August 26th, 2010
1:30 pm

After reading your post I’d say you chose the perfect name.

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Scout,
The problem I have is that he was spouting about the insensitivity of the Muslims wanting to build a “Mosque” at Ground Zero and yet he will use the day and site of one of the greatest speeches ever made by an even greater man, to spew his …hatred. Glen Beck is a sorry SOB

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“August 28th is an important day in American history.”

I check all the calendars I have available. The anniversary date of Kings speech is not shown on there. I bet if you did a street survey of the significance of the date, 99 out of 100 would not know this bit of information.

Why didn’t the park service have the venue reserved if it was such a momentus time and place?

Sounds like some folks trying to find an excuse to whine about something. Much like the not a mosque that’s not at ground zero.

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RW-(the original)

August 26th, 2010
1:30 pm

I’ll agree with that if you’ll agree that all that “insensitivity” talk about the Muslim Community is just that, talk.

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Leg Lamp Unplugged?

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Leg Lamp Power outage?

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Granny Godzilla aka ctucker,

Remind me to never take a vacation with you.
I like to enjoy peace and quiet mixed in with a little par-tay on my vacations.

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Normal

How many women did MLK screw while married? 10, 20, 30 or more?

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I’m Here From The Government And I’m Here To Help

August 26th, 2010
1:42 pm

I don’t know, but I guess none wore blue dresses.

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Leg Lamp No teeth, long tongue.

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Don’t slam those “not for prime time” people. They are just honest people stepping up to the plate to try to rid Washington of the infestation of career politicos that are so entrenched they have forgotten that they are Americans first. I am hopeful that when conservatives take over there is still something left to salvage, and I am also hopeful that when that happens the American public will stay fired up, and hold their feet to the fire to ensure we don’t allow them to run away with any more of our children’s future than they already have.

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How’s the ghetto changed under Obama?

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Having trouble with the date that Beck chose? Do you have any trouble with a black bail bonds company that goes by the name of “Free At Last” bail bonds. It is in the phone book, look it up. Doesn’t that make it seem that jail is a ‘black’ thing, something that comes natural? Why aren’t black people outraged at that?

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The GOP will take the house and elect reps who reject big govt, spending out the ying yang, and a quasi socialist position for our country. Homey don’t play dat. The only reason BO was elected was everyone wanted a change. Well boy did we ever get one…spending like we’ve never seen it, zero illegal immigration enforcement, bailouts for all who would rather sit on their behinds with their hands held out for the latest “gimme gimme nanny nanny.” We are tired of the direction our country in going and until the GOP is back in charge, unemployment will not improve because company’s are sitting on their profits and not hiring because business have no idea what BO will come up with next. You want jobs, vote GOP.

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Not picking on Scout in particular, I focus on the walk, not the talk. And since we’re only talking here, we can only take it “on faith” how folks conduct themselves in the real world.

That’s BS, Bruno.

If that statement were true you’d have no way to keep calling @@ a bad Christian based strictly on talk. You’d also be right up there with the leftists chastising her for bragging about her “walk” if she did talk about it.

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Here we are some 45 years after the Civil Rights Act and what has changed in the black communities? Not much if you believe all the whining from the left. Wonder why? Even the Latino’s have progressed further than the blacks. Wonder why?

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Bruno,
As soon as Ted Kennedy died, the dems only had 59 votes and lost the filibuster proof majority. Brown had nothing to do with it.
As for the alternative energy thing you kind of missed the point.

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leg lamp 1:49 rental poperty gets rented, investor gets bargain property,
lawyers handle foreclosure, courts handle process, bank gets tax deduction,
what’s not good?

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Come to think of it, I’ve never talked about what I, as a Christian, do on a personal level. I do recall giving credit to my church congregation.

Any sacrifices I make as a teacher, have NOTHING to do with my faith. I was drawn to special-ed schoolmates as a child. I considered it a privilege to work with them as an adult. There’s a kinship that I can’t explain.

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Obviously the democrats have never done this. Ahem, sorry, Obama doesn’t count of course.

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Nah-uh. All we have to do it stop Obama and we will be heroes, just like the U.S. troops were treated by the Iraqis.

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We’re just asking for people who will stick to limited government principles, as outlined in the Constitution. People who will look at the Interstate Commerce Clause, and it see as a limit on Congressional power, rather than twist the wording to make it so they can do anything they want. Why the heck would that clause even be in the Constitution if not to limit the power of government?

All we ask for is candidates that will follow the Constitution, the supreme law of the land. And, among other things, nowhere does it say that Congress can force Americans to buy health insurance. That’s only possible by going against the obvious intent of the framers, as well as the plain writing of the Constitution.

Democrats (and most incumbents) can’t say the same. They don’t care about the Constitution, as evidenced on their calls for things like The Fairness Doctrine, and willingness to pass laws that force Americans to buy products from private corporations, and their support for Congress to do anything they want threough the Interstate Commerce Clause.

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Liberals are so funny. Calling Republicans “the party of no”…like saying no to massive deficit spending, to a government-run healthcare that a majority rejects, to reckless foreign policy, or to a massive increase of big-government socialism would be a bad thing…

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Oh, almost forgot…

Kamchak…SQUIRREL!!!

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“like saying no to massive deficit spending”

But not when THEY do it

“to a government-run healthcare that a majority rejects”

That they were for, before they were against it

“to reckless foreign policy,”

But not when THEY do it

“or to a massive increase of big-government”

But not when THEY do it

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Who you talking about, Matti??

(Just kidding you, hon)

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Bruno:

I’ve had one encounter with Matti. She made the assumption that I was putting Michelle Obama down. She was wrong. I was simply curious as to what cause she had adopted as first-lady. She actually has two. I wish the media would focus a bit more on what she does with the families of our troops. I know ’cause I keep tabs.

I have every reason to be suspicious of Granny. She went after me with a vengeance and exacted that vengeance in a way which I found unacceptable.

Can’t recall any over-the-top encounters with USUK. Not saying there weren’t any, just saying they weren’t blatant enough to be memorable.

Bosch is no angel. He’s gone after me personally and I like to return the favor. He’s like a gnat…always buzzing around my posts. I’ve warned him to steer clear. He won’t listen. I’ll give as good as I get from him. I will say I find him extremely boring.

And jay???? The day he can’t hold his own will be the day left-wingers have to step up in his defense.

Puhleeeeze. Enough with your tales of “whoooaaaaa”.

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AmVet, let me ask you a question…if Republicans are no different than Obama as you say (i.e. massive deficits, health care, foreign ploicy, bog-government) hen why do you hate Republicans and get a woody for Barack?

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Quit crying, Bookman. The Dems have literally destroyed the country in just 4 years. Who in their right mind would keep those morons in power?

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tee hee hee

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Paul,

There could be something to being able to get that date and it happening to be a Saturday, but Beck has talked a good bit about the significance of the date so if was a coincidence he’s quite happy with it.

The people who dismiss him as a racist obviously haven’t been watching his TV show for the last couple of months.

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Paul:

I had heard – but have been unable to verify – that it wasn’t so much Beck picking a day as the National Park Service saying ‘you can have this day.”

I recall hearing the same thing. I was researching it when I dropped back in to find Bruno’s invitation. I never turn down an invitation to party.

Back to enter the webber.

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Harry

It would have floated that one bullet right outa’ your pocket.

How’s Thelma Lou?

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chuck,

But we’re buddies NOW, right? I mean, you forgave and LOVE and pray for me, right? I know you do! {hugs!}

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Doggone…your 2:15 implies that Republicans now oppose things they previously supported. Calling them the “party of no” implies that they are now opposed to whatever Obama wants to do.

If they are opposed to what Obama wants, and they now oppose what they previously supported, it logically follows that Obama now wants what the Republicans supported in the past. But, according to you libbies, Republicans destroyed America, while Barack is our savior. And according to you it’s all the same policies. Do you read much?

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“But we’re buddies NOW, right? I mean, you forgave and LOVE and pray for me, right? I know you do! {hugs!}’

LOl you silly miscreant.

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Oxymorons I heard today:

Liberal patriot
Moderate Muslim
President Obama (think about it)

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where….

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Tells it like it is… Not for the faint of heart!

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/06/pat-condell-on-ground-zero-mosque-is-it-possible-to-be-astonished-but-not-surprised.html

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Serious question for Granny Godzilla, AmVet, Doggone/GA, Kamchak, Bookman, or any of the other lefties here…

You mock conservatives and tea party supporters as dumb, stupid, etc, and yet…according to the CBS/NYTimes survey, tea party supporters are wealthier and more educated on average than the general public. And conservatives/tea party people want nothing from government, while you lefties want your healthcare, retirement, your job security, price controls, etc, etc….

So I guess my question is…what color is the sky in your world, where the wealthy, the educated, and the self-reliant among us are considered stupid, while the poor, the uneducated, and the government-dependent folks are supposedly the enlightened and intellectual? LMAO…

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O.K., I’m done searching. The only thing I found was a statement by Beck, himself, and we know how well that’ll be received. Something a the original date being the 12th which fell on a Sunday. Anyhoo…

Bill Press: Glenn Beck’s 8/28 Rally ‘Like Granting Al Qaeda Permission To Hold 9/11 Rally at Ground Zero’

ran across ^^^ that and decided to hang it up.

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Phibbs Jenkins
August 26th, 2010
2:42 pm

More embarrassement the Obama regime:

Thanks for the info. Another nail in the impeachment column!

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In case you forgot, Matti, I did write a song in your honor, “Raising Hell in Jacksonville”. You didn’t like it much, but the boys from Shinedown did:

Leathered skin and shoeless feet
Crazy kids out on the street
Smokin’ dope and drinkin’ brew
Always searching for something new
.
Beach meets bum and waves meet sand
Yet one more Skynyrd cover band
Playing loud along the coast
Helps us see what matters most
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Stealin’ cars and breakin’ hearts
You know we always did our part
To raise some hell, raise some hell
Raisin’ hell in Jacksonville
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HDB…rather than point out the three dozen factual problems in your rant, let’s just start with one…

Who said privatization of social security means that the money has to go into the stock market? Stocks are only one of many, many tyes of private investment instruments. Are you aware that teacher’s unions and government employee unions have their pension funds invested in provate securities, often stocks? Thanks in advance.

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Harry you big silly, it’s blue! Seriously it is blue.

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Isn’t there a disconnect here?

“Who said privatization of social security means that the money has to go into the stock market”

” have their pension funds invested in provate securities, often stocks? ”

How do you invest in “stocks” withOUT being “in” the stock market?

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Kamchak..I’ll answer that when you answre the questions I ask you and you continually dodge…

1) Are you opposed to socialism?
2) Do you think the top tax rate should be higher or lower than 39.6%?

Thanks in advance.

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Doggone…again…read much? I’m asking HDB that, if the left views the stock market with such disdain, why do their biggest supporters (unions) embrace it?

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Jay, you don’t get it. A large segment of the population wants unpolished rough around the edges everyday passionate candidates. We’re tired of the professional sound-bite crowd

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I disagree wholeheartedly with your assertion, Jay, that the Republicans have to make themselves look petty and extreme. Au Contraire. It is as though they were born with the attributes. More like a birthmark or birthright or one of them things like cattle are marked with.

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Disgusted…Social Security fully funded for years to come? Really? Who told you that, Michael Moore? Or was it Keith Olberman…

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Harry Callahan

August 26th, 2010
2:56 pm
Doggone…again…read much? I’m asking HDB that, if the left views the stock market with such disdain, why do their biggest supporters (unions) embrace it?

Since pensions are no longer available, to plan for the aspects of retirement, many look to 401Ks…which are stock market-based!! But….look at what happened when the Bushes got in….note the massive losses in 401Ks when stocks went below 10000…….

Banks aren’t paying any interest on savings…..

What options are there??

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” then a day later the Pres said “I never said that.”

Paul,

Lot’s of leftists let their jerking knees get the best of them on that one. WSJ’s Best of the Web had a great deal of fun tracking the changes of at least one of them.

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HDB…just FYI, 401(k) plans are not “stock market based.” You can have your 401(k) entirely in bonds, money market, whatever you wish. You are so completely over your head here, I really suggest you bow out. You’re making yourself look dumber and dumber.

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The only proposals I have heard from the GOP regarding the economy are to leave the Bush taxcuts remain (no need to have them paid for) and cut taxes even more.

Let’s see how that works out if they take the House. Given that the DoD, Social Security and Medicare constitute the bulk of the budget, where will they start making cuts. You cannot balance the budget if you don’t significantly reduce these three line items especially if you are going to maintain the current taxcuts and/or make even more taxcuts.

The conventional wisdom is the housing market is about to completely implode. I wonder what great ideas we will see out of the House then.

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From CT, “Beverly Hall Needs to Retire”

I agree with Cynthia. I was set to read her entire blog, but she lost me with her second sentance.

“For more than a decade, Beverly Hall, superintendent of Atlanta Public Schools, proved brilliant at protecting her reputation. When she arrived in July 1999, she set about cultivating a coterie of mostly white business executives to serve as advisers and stalwart defenders.”

Why and how is it possible for her to bring race into almost every topic? I’d have posted this on her blog, but it’s closed to comments.

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Peadawg its only been 2 years not 4 so its clear you have no clue go back to bed

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Kamchak…HELLO??? Need an answer to my two questions @ 2:54 please…

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I think the Republican “plan” is to leave the payroll tax in place and use it to make the Bush/Republican tax cuts permanent instead of using the money to pay social security benefits to those that have paid in their entire lives. Sounds like a plan to me.

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Harry, I beg to differ with you once again.

You say “HDB…just FYI, 401(k) plans are not “stock market based.” You can have your 401(k) entirely in bonds, money market, whatever you wish. You are so completely over your head here, I really suggest you bow out. You’re making yourself look dumber and dumber.

Not true…..It depends who your company offers! In my instance to receive equal matching funds in our 401 we had to either invest in our company (fortune 100) or a mutual fund controlled by our company … Which is the stock market.

Parlay it any way you want but some companies do not have CD’s, Bond’s etal……

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Harry Callahan

August 26th, 2010
3:03 pm
“HDB…just FYI, 401(k) plans are not “stock market based.” You can have your 401(k) entirely in bonds, money market, whatever you wish. You are so completely over your head here, I really suggest you bow out. You’re making yourself look dumber and dumber.”

Harry…certain money markets accounts are based in the stock market….401k’s also are…I have to check mine to see how the investments are……there are flexibilities…..but note what happened when the market tanked and the VALUE of 401Ks collapsed…….

Don’t fall for the okey-doke……

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HDB…the Dems blocked Bush’s social security fix. Nor did they offer an alternative solution. They were just “the party of no.” Sound familiar?

Is the tea party predominantly white? Wow…blacks make up about 12% of the U.S. population…would be hard for the tea party to NOT be predominantly white, don’t you think?

Lastly, why don’t you tell us what CLinton or Obama has done for education that Bush(s) or Reagan didn’t do, and tell us how education has been better under Dem rule than under Republican. As always, thanks in advance.

Oh…and look up “No Child Left Behind” and learn about the deal that Bush 2 brokered with Ted Kennedy, and totally went with (and signed into law) the Kennedy Dem plan.

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Harry Callahan

August 26th, 2010
3:09 pm
popeye… “where is all thaat money sitting right now? Thanks in advance…”

Why don’t you tell me ohhhhhhh wise one?

You’re the one who made the comment. I backed up my comment with facts!

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popeye…all of the social security money is gone…spent by the federal government. The only money to pay current retirees comes from the current revenue paid in by current workers. We have already reached the point where revenue is less than payout each year. How do you figure that equals “fully funded through 2073″? Thanks in advance.

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Harry: Disgusted…Social Security fully funded for years to come? Really? Who told you that, Michael Moore? Or was it Keith Olberman…

Here it is in black and white, Harry. Or are you one of those who, having spent trust funds on other things, now want to nullify the loan you made?

The ACA makes significant progress toward making Medicare financially viable. But while it is projected that the Medicare HI Trust Fund is adequately financed until 2029, and the Social Security OASI and DI Trust Funds are adequately financed until 2040 and 2018, respectively, the significant longer term financial imbalances of the programs still need to be addressed. Trustees Report, 2010.

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Paul:

they’d say ‘oh, Glennie, we don’t believe you. Someone picked it for you, didn’t they?”

Nothing jay’s left-wingers say or do would surprise me anymore.

Would you be surprised to know that I really don’t really give a *#%@^&*???

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Disgusted…there’s no money…they spent it years ago. All they have is an IOU, and on that basis, they claim it’s financially sound and solvent through whenever. Choosing to fall for that one, are you? LMAO.

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And to think, last year we didn’t have a big enough tent, just remeberin…

Voters now trust Republicans more than dummycrats on all 10 of the important issues regularly tracked by Rasmussen Reports.

Enuff said…

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Disgusted and Popeye, if I lend my life’s savings to my drunken brother-in-law, and he blows it all at a strip club and gives me an IOU, can I safely say my retirement is “fully funded”? LOL…

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Kamchak? HELLO??? Were those questions really all that tough?

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Harry Callahan August 26th, 2010
3:16 pm

“Why don’t you tell us what CLinton or Obama has done for education that Bush(s) or Reagan didn’t do, and tell us how education has been better under Dem rule than under Republican.”

OK…First thing Reagan did was CUT education spending…and changed the paradigm of educational funding (particularly higher education) from GRANTS to LOANS, thereby increasing the debt-to-income ratio. Clinton restored the funding…but maintained the paradigm! That’s why so many people are catching it with school loans and the default rate!! NCLB, although passed by Bush…is an UNFUNDED MANDATE!! Plus – changes to the GI Bill were enacted under Reagan to force veterans to both pay for their education with personal funds…and placed a time limit on usage…whereas prior to this…vets could access both education and health care easily!!

The earlier Republican SS fixes entailed cutting of benefits and raising the retirement age to 67….and we all know the SS Trust Fund was incorporated into the national budget to lessen the impact of the deficit!! Reagan was the first Administration to go this way!!

To give you this on a PERSONAL level: when I wanted to go back to school…couldn’t use my GI Bill…because the time limit ran out….couldn’t get funding under Bush….but was able to complete both Bachelors and Masters degrees under Clinton!! When I was looking for employment, I was told by employers that since Reagan was in the White House, they didn’t have to hire any minorities……(this was in Atlanta, also!) Longest periods of unemployment – Republican Administrations (2 YEARS)….Democrats (90 DAYS)! Vast difference, isn’t it???

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Como estas, Harry Callahan.

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Kamchak…come on SPORT…two simple questions…should be a breeze for a bright guy like you.

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The “no” strategy seems to have had its intended effect and may work in the short-term. The Republican fired-up base of older white, rural/suburban, Southern Evangelicals may even put them back in this year. But as Karl Rove said, “there’s math and then there’s my math.”

So let’s do the math…you can’t win future elections when your base is already shrinking, yet they’ve done their best to permanently turn away or outright offend any demographic that they will need to help them win in the future (Hispanic voters,etc. The math is not in their favor past 2010 even if they pull this one out. And if they do pull it out, the voters have a rare opportunity to see almost all the same Republican leadership players in Congress reminding them (the voters) of why they kicked them out of majority status in 2006.

At best a Pyrrhic victory … a victory that is offset by staggering losses.

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For those who may be interested, Kyle Wingfield will be moderating a face-to-face debate between Deal, Barnes, and Monds. He’s taking suggestions as they relate to questions at his site.

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Former Bush campaign director Ken Mehlman comes out as gay. How many more, GOP? If you can’t discriminate against yourself properly, you don’t belong in the GOP.

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INTC Hit a New 52 Week Low at $18.

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Blog God! Damn!

“And conservatives/tea party people want nothing from government”

OK, I’m calling bullshyt on that. You take Medicare and SS away from retirees and you’d have a damn revolt on your hand — complete with pitchforks and molotov c o c k tails.

You want nothing from the government? Fine. Educate your own kids, don’t drive on any roads, put out any fires at your own damn house, and if someone breaks in, don’t bother calling the cops, and if someone needs medical assistance — I suggest you fly down to (because you can’t drive on those government maintained roads now) the nearest hospital, strap a doctor to your back and fly them back to your house — because you sure as hell can’t take your loved one to the hospital because they all are subsidized somehow by, you guessed it, the big bad government.

So good luck.

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Harry

Not sure what the point is – fairness, proportionality, whatever – but for married couples the rate begins at 10% of the amount (after deductions) over $17000 and 35 percent of the amount over $374,000. It’ll go up a few points if the cuts aren’t extended.

Anyhow, that’s a spread of $350,000. Or, from the low end of 17k it’s about 22 times that amount to get to 374k.

That strikes me as a pretty tight range, especially given we have people making several million, several tens of millions, several hundreds of billions, and in the cases of some hedge funds, several billion dollars a year.

Do you think it right for a household to pay the same marginal tax rate as a household making 200 times less?

Maybe we should greatly reduce the rates we now have, then establish new brackets for people making over a million, 10 million, 100 million, or a billion a year?

Or do you think we should keep it the way it is, but reduce the rates for everybody while still maintaining the same rate for multimillion dollar earners as for a few hundred thousand dollar earners?

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What Bosch said at 3:42!!!!

Yeah!!!!

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Bosch

I checked the calendar. It’s not conservative day. It’s not liberal day. It’s not dingbat liberal day or libertarian day. It’s anarchist’s day!

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“It’s anarchist’s day!”

SWEET! Me love me some anarchy.

Side note: have you ever had a wart burned off your finger? Damn. That hurts!

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For Conservatives, Republicans, and the Right Wing who are prematurely celebrating their dream and, our nightmare, of a Republican take over of the House or Senate coming true, consider the following. Do you really believe Democrats will just sit by idylly while they [Republicans] once again attempt to destroy our country? What makes you think Democrats will cooperate with your representatives and senators after their behavior during these difficult times for our country? Democrats can be also be obstructionist, just watch.

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Harry,

Do you honestly think for one frakkin’ second that they pay as much as they get out?

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Actually, my mom sure as hell paid for more SS and Medicare than she got out — retired for one year then dies of a heat stroke six weeks ago watering her herb garden…..yeah, she paid for all those wingnuts who live to be 100 bitching about how the government is screwing them.

Great.

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Bosch

Mocking you? Not at all.

Now, if I’d written “whenever I read “Bosch” I think “Bolshevik” that’d be mocking.

I really, really liked that 3:42

Yes, I have. Frozen off. Not so bad. Your doc must be a pervert!

Harry

“They paid in all their life, in most cases against their will. So they shouldn’t get anything back? Right…”

I believe the way the system is set up, by working and contributing they qualify to receive benefits when they retire. Their contributions go to support current retirees.

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Those that think companies took jobs overseas because they “just wanted to” need to rethink. Jobs went overseas because Unions and/or Government regulations made manufacturing in the USA either impossible or unprofitable. There is talk of some type value added tax where, for example, a widget made in China would be taxed at import to put its price on par with the USA manufactured widget. That would drive up consumer pricing. In effect, the consumer would be paying to sustain lifestyles of Union employees and perpetuation of unnecessary or burdensome regulations.

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Bosch…when your mom started working the SSI tax rate was about 1%, and you only paid on like the first $5,000 you earned each year. Current retirees on average get out everything they paid in, with interest, in the first 4 years. Look it up.

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Harry,

No, it’s not total nonsense — you said that conservatives want nothing from the government — so good luck without that assistance. And oh yeah — good luck with that whole indoor plumbing/toilet thing — because without the government, you can’t flush your toilet.

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Blacks with a shorter life expectancy then whites certainly get short-changed by medicare and social security, I await your racist retorts…

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Harry

Do us all a favor and don’t pay into social security and medicare, If by chance, you make it to old age and the market crashes or you get sued and lose your fortune, there will be nothing for you. Don’t think it can’t happen – I’ve seen it up close and personal..

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Bosch, once again, we’re talking federal governnment here…Jay started the blog about who would control the House of Representatives. I didn’t know that the feds did the sewer. Oh wait, I know mayor Shirley asked them for money to fix the crappers in Atlanta, but out in Cobb where I live, we pay our own way.

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Reb @ 3:59 —

When did our country start caring more about those who run corporations who are responsible for shifting the wealth of our citizens to the upper 10% instead of being more concerned for the other 90%?

There is nothing quite like the fight for your right to get poorer and poorer.

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Harry,

You said GOVERNMENT — you didn’t specify. You don’t want help from the government, then fine — good luck with that — honestly.

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What? No Parade? Obama Pulls Out Before the Job is Completed.

WASHINGTON, Aug. 26, 2010 – Even after Operation New Dawn begins next week, U.S. military trainers will continue to help Iraqi security forces build the capabilities to maintain internal security and increasingly, to bolster their defenses against external threats as well, senior military officials in Iraq reported.

Army Maj. Gen. Stephen Lanza called yesterday’s rash of violence that largely targeted Iraqi security forces the enemy’s attempt to intimidate the Iraqi police and military and shake public confidence in their capabilities.

Lanza emphasized during an interview yesterday with American Forces Press Service the need for Iraqi security forces to remain vigilant against the al-Qaida network and others trying to derail progress, and cited U.S. support to ensure they’re up to the task.

Six U.S. “advise and assist” brigades fanned out across Iraq have embedded with their Iraqi counterparts to accelerate training and more quickly build both capability and capacity, he said.

“What we are expanding right now is not just building internal capability, but also an external capability to defend the borders,” Lanza said.

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Alright, I’ve just gotta mention this one. My Cajun neighbor has had to install three separate septic tanks. Why? Because the county inspectors assured them they were not in a flood plain.

Good thing they’re sitting on 11 acres. They’ll be needing every one of ‘em. The last septic tank was put in about 125 feet from their house…it’s up on a hill and required some kind of elaborate pumping system. When he contacted the county, their response was…

“Sorry, not our problem.”

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Harry,

But those prescription drugs went through drug trials paid for by the federal government and approved by the FDA — so no drugs for you.

So, Harry is going to fight off a band of al-Qaida forces that show up to his house all alone. Again, good luck with that.

“I thought you libbies were opposed to the war on terror, Patriot act, etc”

Assume much? That’s your first problem.

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Harry,

42.

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Harry

You are a fool. Social Security is not a complete retirement plan. It is the safety net of last resort so that people in old age can survive. Yeah, you’ve made the point about taking that money and investing in a mutual fund but remember sept. 08? Social security is one of the great innovations and the envy of many nations. Good for you and your fortune. I own properties, have a 401k and and retirement fund. I will be damn glad to collect my soc. sec. which I’ve paid into all my life. By the way, you have mocked $1500 a month from soc. sec. but check this out, you can go to belize and live like a king on that stipend – to each his own.

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HDB
August 26th, 2010
3:30 pm

Companies are in business to make “A PROFIT”. They can not make the rules/laws or print the money to make “A PROFIT”. If any company see’s the need to take jobs overseas to make “A PROFIT” that alone should WAKE YOU UP as to why they made that decision. ECON 101, man!

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Mick…google “portfolio diversification” and get back to us. I lost very little in Sep 08, and have already made most of it up. The closer you get to retirement age, the more you move your investments away from volatile instruments like stocks. I need to start charging you guys for all this financial advice.

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Bosch, why don’t you tell us what percentage of pharmaceutical R&D is government subsidized. I think the number is not as large as you think. But I know you’ve been trained like a hamster to understand that large corporations = boogeyman…

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Bosch…

“But those prescription drugs went through drug trials paid for by the federal government and approved by the FDA — so no drugs for you.

So, Harry is going to fight off a band of al-Qaida forces that show up to his house all alone. Again, good luck with that.”

Bosch, simple response…I don’t live in fear like you do.

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Bosch
August 26th, 2010
3:45 pm

Did you ever take an ECON class? Did you get pass the 4th grade?

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**The closer you get to retirement age, the more you move your investments away from volatile instruments like stocks**

Harry – what are you a rock head? I’ve done all that PLUS soc. sec – jeez give it a break and realize that if it weren’t for soc. sec. many would have nothing, is that the kind of society you want to live in?

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“And in that kind of environment, Barack Obama will thrive. He may not get much done, but he will come off looking reasonable and mainstream while the Republicans make themselves look petty and extreme, setting the stage for Democratic successes in 2012.

Yeah, because he and the Dems have thrived so well these last couple of years–as evidenced by the sorry state of the Union and the sorry political prospects of their party.

“…the GOP is looking like a dog that’s about to catch the car, with no idea whatsoever about what it ought to do next.”

Because the GOP NEVER has any ideas. When the opposition is taking the country off a cliff “NO!” is enough of a strategy.

I have a political speculation of my own: The GOP will almost certainly win the House. They will pick up about 7 Senate seats. (The RCP “no toss-ups” has them gaining 7.) This will put the House in GOP hands and the Dems will hold the Senate at 52-48.

However, in the 2012 Senate elections hold a possibility for even greater Democrat Senate losses. In 2012 the Dems have to defend 23 seats (including 2 Ind.) while the GOP only has to defend 10. The 10 GOP seats are nearly all from states that were conservative strongholds before-during-and-after Obamamania. That is not nearly the case for the Dems. If Obama continues to cling to the extreme left–and there is little indication he won’t–not only will the GOP again win the House, but also likely win the White House and have a near super-majority in the Senate.

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Harry,

That number doesn’t matter – it is subsidized by the federal government, and approved for consumption by the federal government, and since you do not want help from the federal government — you get no drugs.

And, you have to pay $15 a gallon for gas because of the subsidies going to the oil companies. K?

And, don’t plan any vacations in Yellowstone either.

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Reb,

Dang! Again, everytime I type your name, I capitalize the “e” — I think job outsourcing was a perfect storm of what you describe and globalization. It was kind of unavoidable actually — a perfect storm — and it’s hard to get back. I by no means think unions are perfect, but they have certainly done good things for the American worker, and still do. They are not as powerful as they once were — and it still bothers me for people to have the “you should be thankful that so and so let’s you work” because my gut reaction to that is “so and so should be thankful that I work for him making him money” — it’s just the difference in how we think is all. My finger still hurts!

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Who here still pays the hospital/doctor’s bill with any discounts? Who here pays for prescription drugs that supposedly has no generic brand?

You boys and girls do realize with ObamaCare, the medical industry is now government controlled and run!

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Hillbilly:

‘Phantom of the Fox’ may lose historic theater apartment

I predict that will never happen.

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“You boys and girls do realize with ObamaCare, the medical industry is now government controlled and run!”

Actually, no it’s not — doctors and nurses are not going to suddenly become government employees.

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HINT FOR BOSCH…#3,4, and 5 dont add up to a total of 3% altogether…

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I’m gone …………. new fun thread upstairs.

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Harry, Harry, Harry, you are totally missing the point. YOU wrote that you don’t want any help from the government. It don’t care what percentage of all that adds up to. You don’t want help, fine — good luck on going back to living in the 1840s.

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Bosch
August 26th, 2010
4:29 pm

“You boys and girls do realize with ObamaCare, the medical industry is now government controlled and run!”

Actually, no it’s not — doctors and nurses are not going to suddenly become government employees.

LOL Live and Learn!

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Bosch, when your precious daughter becomes an adult, what do you think the tax rates will be to pay for Obama’s massive deficits? Thanks in advance.

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“Not Ready for Primetime Players” Jay?

Yea, but they’re going to whip your beloved democratic partys arse in November. Obama is a loser and the people of this country (and even more significantly his past supporters) know it. Current democratic/ progrssive strategy on the economy has proven to be even more detrimental to us than even that of Carter (or Bush, whichever you prefer) both of whom were losers. Obama and the “spendocrats” in congress have become laughing stock on the streets of this country.

I guess us “proletariat” must laugh at them because we are in misery and we must once again “suffer in quite desperation” until the next election. But the mood of this country is now turning to anger against the progressive tri-fecta of Obama, Pelosi and Reid. Obama and Biden have become even bigger clowns than even their detractors, such as myself, can believe. This country is being run by ideological (and in the case of Biden, mentally deficient) idiots and most everyone knows it except Jay, Cindy, the AJC, the NYT’s and the Washington Post (or so it seems). The people of this country now realize that they made a big mistake when they elected the progressive/socialist democrats to control both houses of Congress in 2006 and Obama to control the Executive branch in 2008. But the American people have always righted their wrongs in one way or the other. At least a piece of this one will be righted very soon.

This election is going to prove that the American people, while they may deviate out of what is rational once in a while (as in the case of the election of the blundering oaf Obama) always come “back to the fold” and the “the fold” is independent/conservative thought. Make no mistake, the majority of the “working class” in this country are conservative and they are independent. They only want what they earn and what is theirs but they damn well don’t like it when the government takes it from them and gives it to someone else who doesn’t. The current crop of socialists/progressives (Obama, Pelosi and Reid) only understand the theory of re-distribution of the working peoples money to those

So in the words of Wings, “Say bye bye” this year and in 2012 to the progressives and to which I say, “good riddance to bad rubbish”. Of course they’ll be back again in 10 or 15 years and the cycle will repeat itself until the country either comes to its senses or it is in ashes.

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Harry,

“http://stephenleahy.net/2009/05/07/massive-subsidies-to-oil-companies-continue-podcast/”

There’s you some info on oil subsidies —

And I remember back in the 80s when everybody was using the same rhetoric “your kids/grandkids are gonna be paying for this” — it really is just a recycled phrase. Since I was a kid back then — I guess that would mean me now….paying for whatever it was they were griping about back then — and ya’ know? I do pretty okay for myself, so if I am paying for anything that was supposed to ruin the country back then, then I guess I don’t notice so much because it certainly hasn’t kept me from having a nice life.

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