Aug. 23, 2010: Just another day in Disinformationland
Pop culture critic Neal Gabler, writing in Politico, notes that more and more Americans — including 31 percent of Republicans — believe incorrectly that President Obama is Muslim. The finding offers still more evidence that we live today in what Gabler rather clunkily — but accurately — labels “Disinformationland.”
“With more of us attending college, we might even be smarter. But higher education rates and easier access to information have been undermined by what amounts to a vast and insidious revolutionary force – a kind of anti-Enlightenment in which facts yield to rumor, reason to uninformed opinion and objectivity to proudly declared subjectivity. We swim in a limitless sea of misinformation, even disinformation, without much inclination to separate truth from fiction…. The idea that there is such a thing as verifiable truth – like Obama being a Christian – is increasingly seen as elitist. It’s as if truth were yet another scheme by the powerful to impose their will on everyone else.”
I can remember a time when American conservatives argued vehemently that there could only be one truth, THE truth. It was a foundation stone in the conservative philosophy. The counter notion that truth was instead a relative concept, that one person’s concept of truth could be as valid as the next person’s, was dismissed as soft-headed liberalism. Sadly, that is now ancient history.
In too many quarters, truth today is personal, a set of “facts” that allow a person to keep believing whatever he or she prefers to believe. And if we each inhabit our own alternate reality, there is in fact no reality, only fantasy. I’m not sure that democracy as we have known it can survive that transition.
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Left wing management
August 23rd, 2010
12:03 pm
“I can remember a time when American conservatives argued vehemently that there could only be one truth, THE truth”
There’s a major volume in American political history (and if Richard Hofstadter were still around, he might be the one to write it) that remains to be written. When it’s written – if it’s written – it will tell the story of how the American right wing, which in its current form started out a couple of decades ago largely on the inspiration of Alan Bloom’s Closing of the American Mind, arguing self-righteously that American culture had been taken over by a Left-wing disease of selective perception of truth. “Cultural relativism” they called it, and for a long time it was a battle cry that furthered the careers of a whole cottage industry of Right wing pundit (Bill Bennett, George Will, Roger Kimball, and many others). But obviously this was long before the Glenn Becks and Bill O’Reillys dumbed down things down and made it hard to believe there was once a day when the Right had strong intellectual pretensions. But what has happened now is that the Right wing has become an Alan Bloom parody – highly ironic considering that Bloom’s whole argument was that American culture had been corrupted by a decadent, watered-down Nietzscheanism. In our current climate, with Fox News at the forefront, is there any greater example of watered-down Nietzcheanism than the current politics of Right wing demagoguery?
barking frog
August 23rd, 2010
12:03 pm
All men are raised by women.
Scout
August 23rd, 2010
12:03 pm
barking frog:
LOL !
Scout
August 23rd, 2010
12:04 pm
Matti:
You didn’t answer my other question. It’s o.k. if you don’t want to. Just wanted to add something.
Saul Good
August 23rd, 2010
12:05 pm
Bruno: From your post/article above:
“For example, Obama’s application to Punahou School – now mysteriously missing – would likely contain a birth certificate. And, according to attorney Gary Kreep, “his Occidental College records are important as they may show he attended there as a foreign exchange student.” Indeed, Obama used his Indonesian name “Barry Soetoro” while attending Occidental.”
Bruno…What I said stands…we KNOW that Obama attended those schools. WHY would he have to provide his “APPLICATIONS” to those schools? Did Bush or Reagan, Truman, etc…EVER provide the applications they had to any school?
Actually what your post/link does is verify what I stated..that we KNOW where and when Obama attended school.
BTW… Gary Kreep (or is it Creep…hehe)… is one of the LEAD “Birther” attorney’s who has had case after case dismissed. They switched to him on WND daily Orly was losing her cases… and he’s done no better.
Again…as far as “serious” dialog…please post someone other then a birther conspiracy theorist. Also… I’ll again point out what I said above… there is NO DENYING WHERE and WHEN Obama attended school (and which schools)… having to provide his “applications” is something which the birthers are asking of Obama…something that no other president before has ever provided.
RB from Gwinnett
August 23rd, 2010
12:08 pm
Gee Jay, I wonder how many liberals believe Bush started the war for his big oil buddies? Your partisan outrage is a joke.
barking frog
August 23rd, 2010
12:09 pm
left wing management 12:03 Right wing commentators
are now the demigods of demagoguery?
Mr Right
August 23rd, 2010
12:13 pm
Don’t forget
August 23rd, 2010
9:13 am
Mr Right
August 23rd, 2010
9:06 am
Don’t change my posts. This is a perfect example of what I was talking about. You change a few of my words around without showing that you changed them. It’s totally dishonest.
Sorry! I changed it because it fit perfectly then way I would describe the left! Sorry I made you look good!
Jefferson
August 23rd, 2010
12:16 pm
That Mormon politician, would his religion matter? It appears religion is a deal breaker.
The Leg Lamp is a "major award" much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel.
August 23rd, 2010
12:17 pm
Jefferson
August 23rd, 2010
12:16 pm
Maybe he’ll claim he converted from Mormonism to Christianity.
Scout
August 23rd, 2010
12:18 pm
Jefferson:
Don’t think the Morman religion would matter as it’s ultimate goal is not the domination of the world by force and as far as I know they haven’t been blowing things up or beheading people all over the world.
Scout
August 23rd, 2010
12:19 pm
Excuse Me …………… “Mormon”
USinUK
August 23rd, 2010
12:21 pm
Scout – ask Mittens if it matters …
Fang1944
August 23rd, 2010
12:21 pm
Then there’s:
The President is going to mandate circumcision (Limbaugh)
The President is going to ban fishing (Beck and ESPN)
There are going to be death panels (Palin and Bachmann)
Illegal aliens are going to draw Social Security (chain email that never dies)
Australia banned guns, and the violent crime rate went up 44% (it dropped even faster after the restrictions on some guns were in place)
Fewer than 10% of the President’s cabinet have had jobs in the private sector (Beck)
California is going to ban black cars (Limbaugh)
And it goes on and on.
Mick
August 23rd, 2010
12:22 pm
rb
So, why exactly did bush start the iraq war? Revenge for their plot against his father? Oil? There really was no legit reason, which history has born out.
Don't forget
August 23rd, 2010
12:26 pm
Bruno
August 23rd, 2010
11:21 am
“Bruno, did George W answer the claims the he knew about 9/11 before it happened???? Does the fact that he didn’t give credibility to those who made the assertion. I think that the argument that the issue isn’t addressed does NOTHING to add credibility to the assertion.”
DF–I understand your point: Some questions are too far-fetched to waste time answering. In the case of GWB’s supposed fore-knowledge of 9/11 (trumpeted by our own Cynthia McKinney), I don’t believe anyone ever produced any evidence to suggest that, and there are no “sealed records” which could definitively put the issue to rest.
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Actually you only partially see my point. Wasn’t George W briefed about al quaida on his first day? Didn’t the Clinton administration deliver a report to the Bush administration titled “Al quaida intent on attacking America” or something to that effect. Didn’t Richard Clark say that the Bush administration got out the attack plans on Iraq within hours of the 9/11 attack?
I don’t think that Bush knew of the attack. My point is that you can always come up with unanswered questions and draw conclusions from them if you ignore the known facts. This is the whole basis of conspiracy theories. A puff of smoke from a grassy knoll, extra sounds on a poor quality audio tape and so on. Can you prove to me that the questions you ask are not just a conspiracy theory. Can you prove that any of your assertions are true?
Bruno
August 23rd, 2010
12:28 pm
“Again…as far as “serious” dialog…please post someone other then a birther conspiracy theorist.”
Saul–Did you actually read my posts, or just skim through them looking for easy points to disagree with? In my initial post @ 10:26, I stated “Personally, I believe he was born in Hawaii and personally, I don’t care if he had a Muslim upbringing, but his continued stonewalling only gives additional fodder for those who like to believe in conspiracy theories.”
The bottom line is that I labeled the attached westernjournalism site as one supporting “conspiracy theories”, but made the larger point that Obama’s active stonewalling was the real issue in my mind, not the legitimacy of the “birther” claims. Is that clear to you?
“we KNOW that Obama attended those schools. WHY would he have to provide his “APPLICATIONS” to those schools? Did Bush or Reagan, Truman, etc…EVER provide the applications they had to any school?”
Again, Saul, the issue isn’t whether he actually attended the schools, but what nationality he claimed on the application forms. Which could easily be answered by releasing the records, yet Obama has spent large sums of money keeping them sealed. Maybe this doesn’t come across as being suspicious to you, but it does for me. As far as I know, no legitimate questions regarding citizenship were ever raised about Bush, Reagan or Truman, since they were born to parents who were both US citizens and they all spent their youth attending US schools.
If you wish to engage in serious dialogue, you must first read what I wrote. You’re putting words in my mouth and asking me to defend something I never said.
Mick
August 23rd, 2010
12:28 pm
Right wing echo chamber howl – mosque built near ground zero. I think since there is a mosque inside the pentagon, which also was attacked, that argument has been rendered null and void. Next fox news talking point? Obama and his summer vacation, beware.
Paul
August 23rd, 2010
12:28 pm
Jefferson
“That Mormon politician, would his religion matter? It appears religion is a deal breaker.”
Last time I checked, Sen Harry Reid was still Senate Majority Leader –
Religion’s an issue only if people want to make it one.
godless heathen
August 23rd, 2010
12:29 pm
“There really was no legit reason, which history has born out.”
And Mick makes the point that people believe what they want to believe, absent any amount of facts that are made available to them.
RB from Gwinnett
August 23rd, 2010
12:30 pm
Jay, would you care to correct your bretheren Mick with facts or will you continue your usual one sided criticism of those you don’t agree with?
BTW, I do think it’s funny how liberals want to excuse Obama’s deficits with the “Bush and Reagan did it too” crap without understanding that’s exactly why the R’s got trounced in the last elections. Conservatives are sick of that crap. And McCain would have done more of the same. As a nation, this needs to stop regardless of whether a D does it or an R. It needs to stop!
Jefferson
August 23rd, 2010
12:33 pm
What good is a religion if it doesn’t want to dominate the world? Who wants an underacheiver as the top dog?
barking frog
August 23rd, 2010
12:36 pm
Jefferson 12:33 ….movin on up.
williebkind
August 23rd, 2010
12:37 pm
“I’m not sure that democracy as we have known it can survive that transition.”
I sure hope you are right since we are a representative republic. You liberals can not stand if when the same tactics are used against you. Please Jay! Dont use the word facts, instead use the word fantasy. Thats all you progressive socialist have–idealistic fantasies.
Saul Good
August 23rd, 2010
12:37 pm
Bruno,
Serious dialog? You’re again stating that Obama has to provide documents/applications from his youth and college years when they are in fact NOT REQUIRED of him. He has provided his BC and every single court/judge and our own congress has accepted it as legal and valid. Case closed.
There’s really no further dialog to have… you’re deeply entrenched in the birther conspiracy. Honestly, they’ve got you all wrapped up in their conspiracy theory and you actually believe that they might just be on to something. Sorry, I have better things to do with my time but to try and prove what has been shown over and over and over again. The President was born in the USA, and is/has ALWAYS been a US Citizen. You say you believe he was…then why do you waste your time reading other people’s lunacy?
Matti
August 23rd, 2010
12:40 pm
Scout,
Actually, I DO believe in Christ, although I believe the recorded history of his life was perverted by the men who wrote the books. Specifically, I believe he likely had a wife, (as did any Jewish man of his age) but the misogynists in the old Church stripped or buried all references to her to promote the idea what women are dirty — a concept that, to my knowledge, Christ never preached. Thanks for asking.
Mick
August 23rd, 2010
12:41 pm
rb
Before I get “corrected” how’s about you actually listing some FACTS yourself. Then again, its much easier for you to label someone as a liberal then dismiss them out right.
Saul Good
August 23rd, 2010
12:42 pm
Jefferson
August 23rd, 2010
12:33 pm
I would have to say I agree… completely.
Sad but true…yet because of just that… it will continue to cause division among the cult’s members who all feel as THEIR cult is the “best” one and the others are wrong. I mean…somebody WIN already or everyone give it up.
Longest friggin’ war EVER…
The Leg Lamp is a "major award" much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel.
August 23rd, 2010
12:44 pm
Matti
August 23rd, 2010
12:40 pm
Uh oh, you’ve got “DaVinci Code” written all over you.
Peadawg
August 23rd, 2010
12:46 pm
“It appears religion is a deal breaker.”
To me, it is. I want a Christian in the White House. Period.
Mr Right
August 23rd, 2010
12:47 pm
believe that women aren’t stupid and don’t need a 24-hour waiting period before terminating a pregnancy? you hate men.
You mean before they kill their baby !
Bruno
August 23rd, 2010
12:48 pm
“Didn’t the Clinton administration deliver a report to the Bush administration titled “Al quaida intent on attacking America” or something to that effect. Didn’t Richard Clark say that the Bush administration got out the attack plans on Iraq within hours of the 9/11 attack?”
DF–That may be true, and would support your argument better if these were the ONLY attack plans revealed to Bush. I’m not privy to national security info, but have to believe that thousands of threats against the US are made each year. With unlimited resources, we probably could investigate each and every one of them, but that’s not reality. It’s easy to piece the clues together after the fact and say “We should have known”.
In fact, I think a good analogy can be drawn from your world, the world of medicine. Patients typically present with a multitude of complaints. To investigate each and every complaint fully would require huge sums of money. Even a single presenting complaint, such as headaches, can be caused by so many possible factors, that it’s not feasible to check each one.
“Can you prove to me that the questions you ask are not just a conspiracy theory. Can you prove that any of your assertions are true?”
Like my request to Saul, I’ll have to invite you to reread what I’ve actually said. Obama could easily answer questions about claimed foreign citizenship, but chose to spend large sums of money suppressing the info instead. Can you think of any reasonable justification for doing so?
Saul Good
August 23rd, 2010
12:49 pm
“To me, it is. I want a Christian in the White House. Period.”
You have one in the White House. Period
Peadawg
August 23rd, 2010
12:50 pm
“You have one in the White House. Period”
I’m not one of the crazies that he’s not.
RB from Gwinnett
August 23rd, 2010
12:50 pm
Mick, if you haven’t gotten it by now, me posting it one more time isn’t going to help you any. You’re a left wing fringe nut case and nothing I post will change that.
jconservative
August 23rd, 2010
12:51 pm
“In too many quarters, truth today is personal, a set of “facts” that allow a person to keep believing whatever he or she prefers to believe.”
Jay this is not new.
People have always believed what they want to believe. And if they did not have a clear reason to believe what they wanted to believe, they simply made up a reason.
And so it continues.
In the world of human emotions and opinions facts have rarely played a role.
Bruno
August 23rd, 2010
12:52 pm
“There’s really no further dialog to have… you’re deeply entrenched in the birther conspiracy.”
Saul–You are either an idiot or a liar to make such a claim. I won’t waste time speaking to you in the future, since your only motivation seems to be “proving” what your own imagination believes based on your stated hatred of all things conservative.
Soames
August 23rd, 2010
12:55 pm
The “disinformation machine” is used by both parties to distract the electorate and further divide the citizens of this great country. To act like the Democrats have the market cornered on all that is ethical and moral shows ignorance on the part of some of your regular posters here.
Partisan hacks will always stick to their political dogma, regardless of how wrong they may be and some of you guys/gals are proof.
Matti
August 23rd, 2010
12:56 pm
Peadawg,
Since you’re an expert, then you can confirm what is required to “become a Christian”: Invite Him into your heart, Accept Him as your Savior, Confess Him to others as your Savior. To whom you were born, where you lived, and where you went to school are not factors. If you think Bush was a Christian (because he said so), and despite sending troops to invade and bomb a country that never attacked us, then why do you apply the standard differently to Obama, even though he says so? Because he does not advocate the same laws or policies that YOU do? *snerk* If that’s the case, then you sure do attribute a boatload of power and importance to your own opinions. Wonder what Christ would say about judging others all willy nilly.
Peadawg
August 23rd, 2010
12:58 pm
Matti, I never said Obama wasn’t a Christian. Calm down.
Saul Good
August 23rd, 2010
12:58 pm
Bruno,
Thanks for the name calling. Classy.
I was pointing out that what you’re asking for of Obama is something that NO OTHER President before him has had to provide. I stated that every court and our own congress has accepted his BC as being acceptable and allowable as “proof” that he was born in the USA. Why that’s not “good enough” for you…who knows… it simply makes you a “birther”.
Hopefully you’ll be an honest man and keep your word.
We’ll see.
Cheers!
Mick
August 23rd, 2010
1:01 pm
rb
**You’re a left wing fringe nut case **
Your powers of deduction are seriously lacking. You on the other hand, are terminally bitter about one thing or another. Enjoy your corporate slog and I hope they don’t discard you when you get near retirement or close to it.
stands for decibels
August 23rd, 2010
1:03 pm
Matti, I never said Obama wasn’t a Christian. Calm down.
Peadawg, I think your message 12.50 is inadvertantly missing a “THINK” or “BELIEVE”, thus Matti’s misunderstanding.
meaning, what you wrote:
“I’m not one of the crazies that he’s not.”
should’ve been
“I’m not one of the crazies that believe he’s not.”
(that’s how I read it anyway.)
Bruno
August 23rd, 2010
1:07 pm
On a lighter note, here’s a funny interview by Stephen Colbert with mathematician Art Benjamin who teaches at my alma mater:
http://www.math.hmc.edu/~benjamin/mathemagics/video-colbert.html#colbert
Can’t say I’ve ever been a Colbert fan, but my opinion of him has changed after watching this video.
Matti
August 23rd, 2010
1:10 pm
Thanks SFD. Yes, I was confused by the wording. Personally, I think we should leave religion out of politics. It causes problems, and I don’t see that it actually solves any.
Peadawg
August 23rd, 2010
1:12 pm
Sorry for the confusion.
Abrazos
August 23rd, 2010
1:15 pm
As Glenn Beck says, “Follow the money” and lookee heah:
FOX News’ parent company, NewsCorp is 7% owned by Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal the largest investor after the Murdoch family. Prince Alwaleed can be tied to the Saudi royal family, which finances the construction of Wahabbist mosques, and which has links to the Carlyle Group. The Carlyle Group has, in turn, been tied to Osama bin Laden. Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani rejected a $10-million gift from Prince Alwaleed after the 9/11 attacks, because the Saudi prince had said that US foreign policy contributed to the terrorist attack. That’s right…Fox News’ parent company took nearly $3 BB from THE SAME Saudi Prince who said said that US foreign policy contributed to the terrorist attack.
So is Fox News a Terrorist Command Center? Are Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Bill O’Reilly, Laura Ingraham, Ann Coulter, Dick Morris, Karl Rove, et al all practicing jihad against America, doing the bidding of their Saudi puppet masters? The connection is disturbing.
Not saying Fox News IS a terrorist Command Center or any of those people ARE jihadists, just putting it out there as innuendo with a question mark. Like Fox News does a couple dozen times a day.
barking frog
August 23rd, 2010
1:17 pm
Religion and Politics go hand in hand. some people
are religiously political, others are politically religious.
Don't forget
August 23rd, 2010
1:40 pm
Bruno
August 23rd, 2010
12:48 pm
Obama could easily answer questions about claimed foreign citizenship, but chose to spend large sums of money suppressing the info instead.
Ok, let me try another angle to make my point. How do you know that Obama spent large sums of money to suppress the info? What was that sum of money? Did Obama tell somebody that? Did his lawyer violate his client’s confidence? As far as I know, he isn’t required to release the application nor is required to divulge what he spends his money on. I think you have to “question the quesioner” before drawing conclusions or making insinuations.
Honu
August 23rd, 2010
1:49 pm
Bruno — will you please show me a copy of the cancelled check that President Obama wrote to assure his place of birth and school applications remain hidden? What’d he write on the For: ____________ (line?) “Pymt. to continue Muslim take over of America???” Dang. . .
Honu
August 23rd, 2010
1:52 pm
Don’t Forget — guess we both had the same reaction to that “large sums of money” post, at the same time!
AmVet
August 23rd, 2010
2:09 pm
That IS some good news, Bruno! Hang in there brother, your karma is good and good things will come of it…
That John Prine tune was great fun, expat. Thanks.
stands, don’t you feel just a little dirty being Jay’s equivalent of Grand Forks? (grin.)
What is humorous is how the gist of that conversation this morning was ballerina-ed away from the salient point of denouncing hateful, unprovoked, childish personal insults to “intolerance”.
Which yet again begs the quote from Dodgeball, “The five rules of dodgeball are dodge, duck, dip, dive and dodge.”
Some of these folks are in DESPERATE need of some remedial logic classes…
gb
August 23rd, 2010
2:39 pm
I’m disturbed by the alleged proximity of the ‘gentleman’s club’ to the proposed not-mosque. Will the establishment of the ‘cultural center’ lead to demands to close down this small business?
Saul Good
August 23rd, 2010
2:46 pm
gb,
no I’m sure they won’t… but let’s talk about trying to build a “gentleman’s club” here in GA next to a church… oh I forgot…it’s against the law to do so. GA Talibangelical Code #433. No strip clubs next to churches.
I guess they wrote that law so that the pastor and his buddies, along with our state/county politicians would not be seen going to and leaving the strip club by their wives…
Scout
August 23rd, 2010
2:52 pm
Jefferson @ 12:33 There’s a big difference in dominating the world by force or voluntary persuasion. If you can’t see that, you’re beyond help.
Matti @ 12:40 Does it bother you that Jesus came as a “man” (since you say He had a wife), that “He was circumcized on the eighth day after the manner of the Jews”, that he chose 12 men for his inner circle, that He taught us to pray “Our Father” and not our mother and that He is coming back to reign forever and ever as “King” but not Queen ?
Worth and position are two different things. Men and women are of equal worth to God but He has given them different positions.
Saul Good
August 23rd, 2010
2:58 pm
Same way Christianity came to Europe… in many cases…by force. Matters not if it was yesterday or 1000 years ago. It’s a fact. It happened… see my detailed post from last week if you need the “proof”….
Scout
August 23rd, 2010
3:02 pm
Saul Good:
We live in the present. What you are saying is that it’s o.k. for Islam to use force when they can get away with it because of something that “supposedly” happened in the distant past.
That justifies the actions today? Not in my book.
Saul Good
August 23rd, 2010
3:05 pm
No Scout…I’m saying it’s not okay for ANYBODY to use force to push their principles onto someone who does not want it. Either in the present or past. Just because something happened 10 years ago, or 1000 years ago…it does not make it okay. I mean in a 1000 years from now would you like it basically anyone who reads about or learns about the holocaust says: no biggie…it was a long time ago so it wasn’t that big a deal…
Scout
August 23rd, 2010
3:12 pm
Going Upstairs ……………. new thread.
HDB
August 23rd, 2010
3:53 pm
Bruno August 23rd, 2010
10:26 am
“The fact remains that Obama could have put all doubt to rest regarding his upbringing by releasing records from his childhood and college days.”
Up to this point, NO OTHER President or Presidential candidate has had to release records about his childhood and birth….and the academic records are public record. Why should Obama be put to a standard that no other President or candidate has had to face???
If the State of Hawai’i (which at last occurrance, IS a part of the United STATES) released his birth certificate….and the paper has a corresponding birth announcement, that’s enough corroboration for EVERYONE!!
HDB
August 23rd, 2010
3:57 pm
Scout August 23rd, 2010
3:02 pm
“Saul Good:
We live in the present. What you are saying is that it’s o.k. for Islam to use force when they can get away with it because of something that “supposedly” happened in the distant past.”
Hate to tell you this, Scout….but many are attempting to use “force” to get away with a lot of things these days; the force of law is used to move people out of their homes just to build a hotel……many are using the force of public opinion to keep a community cenbter from being built; many are using the force of the dollar to keep labor costs lower………
Force is being used every day; the question is who’s applying it…and who’s it being used against!!
Raven Gonzalez, Age 13-14
August 23rd, 2010
5:11 pm
People, you’re stupid.
Who cares?
It’s the President Obama!
No one cared if Bush were christian or not so why should we care if Obama is or not?
Seriously, give him a chance before you beat him down!
Yeah, you just got told by a thirteen year old to use your “commen sense”.
If you have any, that is.
Lexis Gonzalez, Age 10-11
August 23rd, 2010
5:13 pm
Hey i dont like bush!obama is great!
an dif u dont think thAT i dont give a care!!!
he is awesomer then bush
!
his name sounds weird……..xD
Anonymus Rex
August 23rd, 2010
5:19 pm
That the Republican party has a vested interest in keeping its base fat, dumb, ignorant, and wedged-issued against other Americans is incontrovertible. Anti-science; anti-public education; anti-nonchristian; the antii’s go on and on. It takes utterly no ideas or incentives to be against everything. Unfortunately that’s who they are.
ODDOWL
August 23rd, 2010
7:31 pm
Zionist, Christians and Muslins all worship the same Deity. They worship JHVH, Jehovah, Yahweh, Allah, The ancient Canaanite God of Darkness, the light bringer who utter the words; “Let their be Light.” The racist Neo-Con, Republican Tea party crowd Led by Mcconnell and Boehner are throwing bovine balderdash, talking points up against the wall. All of the big house middle class drones who vote Republican have grabbed ladders and are plucking the balderdash off the wall and placing it on the table for discussion and debate. Its nothing more than a diversionary tactic, a distraction becaue the racist neo-con Republican Tea party people don’t have a plan to fix what they screwed up. The Republican Tea party don’t have a plan to fix the economy, they still support deregulation, abolishing social security, medicare, medicaid, food stamps, unemployment insurance, bank bailouts and they are schizophrenia about cutting taxes on the riches 5% of the population. The Republican agenda is an anti Democrat agenda. They’re using racism, sexism, homophobic and zenophobic tactics in their attempts to destroy President Obama and the Democrats plan to save America from the incompetent failures of the Bush.Cheney Regime. The McConnell-Beohner led racist Republican Tea party are a toothless tiger with no power. They’re envious of and frustrated by the facts that the Democrats have all the power and a great plan to correct everything the McConnell-Boehner led racist Republican Tea party screwed up big time. The question on the table is; How could any non-rich American still fall for the Republican fear and smear, divide and conquer tactics ??? They must be very naive, ignorant, stupid and gullible because the racist Republicans have been using the fear and smear, divide and conquer tactics since Reagan begin using it thirty years ago. the non-rich Republicans are so gullible, we Democrats could sell them tractor-trailer truck loads of sand in the middle of the Sahara Desert. That ol’ pendulum is swinging towards the left. Americans will vote for the Democrats in large numbers on November 2. The racist Republican Tea party will have to find themselves a new shtick.
myke hawke
August 23rd, 2010
10:50 pm
Do day be teachin ebonics in Atlanta schools?
Quimarious Lantekee Jones
August 23rd, 2010
10:53 pm
I be representin that remark. You raciststs like that sac of prunes Cynthia Tucker.
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Hector
August 24th, 2010
11:38 am
20 years ago we were concern about the Digital Divide. This has morphed into the Media Moron Divide.
James Gollum Carville
August 24th, 2010
7:29 pm
Yes, Karl. But add some facts to your argument:
* Obama’s stimulus, passed in his first month in office, will cost more than the entire Iraq War — more than $100 billion (15%) more.
* Just the first two years of Obama’s stimulus cost more than the entire cost of the Iraq War under President Bush, or six years of that war.
* Iraq War spending accounted for just 3.2% of all federal spending while it lasted.
* Iraq War spending was not even one quarter of what we spent on Medicare in the same time frame.
* Iraq War spending was not even 15% of the total deficit spending in that time frame. The cumulative deficit, 2003-2010, would have been four-point-something trillion dollars with or without the Iraq War.
* The Iraq War accounts for less than 8% of the federal debt held by the public at the end of 2010 ($9.031 trillion).
* During Bush’s Iraq years, 2003-2008, the federal government spent more on education that it did on the Iraq War. (State and local governments spent about ten times more.)
Just some handy facts to recall during coming weeks as Obama and his congressional Democratic buddies get more desperate to put the blame for their spending policies on Bush and the war in Iraq.
See how easy that is?