Last week, we were talking about having a soul-themed edition of Travelin’ Music, and I still think that’s a great idea. But not tonight. When we all step aboard the Soul Train, I want to be here. And tonight, I’m not.
In fact, as I mentioned in comments earlier, I’m not going to be around for the next two weeks. And unlike my recent cross-country “vacation,” this time I’m not bringing you with me. As Rick said to Ilsa, “Where I’m going, you can’t follow. What I’ve got to do, you can’t be any part of.” I’m headed out to the high desert of Oregon again for a couple of weeks of whitewater rafting, fishing and camping, and among that region’s many charms is the fact that cell phones and computers are utterly useless out there.
So for tonight, I’ll leave you with this, a piece that serves as the official theme song for the group of guys who have made this same trip annually for almost 20 years now. In fact, somebody at work asked me the other day whether I was ever going to get too old for this trip, given that we run the trip ourselves, without guides.
“Maybe someday,” I told her. “Someday when I’m dead and buried, that is.”
Be kind to each other while I’m gone.
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Normal
August 10th, 2010
8:10 am
USinUK,
Thanks for the site. I sent it home to check out later.
As to my diabetes, I’ve had type II a number of years controlled by pills, but lately have had some stress issues that are aggrivated by Diabetes. So my family has been getting on me to start the whole Regime again. I get so tired of the whole thing very quickly because dealing with the thing takes alot of thought and I’d (of course) rather not think about it at all. Life? Short and happy or long and dull? You decide, has been my mantra for a long time. But now, as my my wife keeps harping on, I have “the family” to take care of. Sheesh!
Anyway, I’m looking for variations in an acceptable diet so I won’t go back to my soul fried comfort foods…Except every once in a while…
Normal
August 10th, 2010
8:11 am
Whoa, first on 10! Feel the tingle!!!
TaxPayer
August 10th, 2010
8:11 am
Nathan Deal or Karen Handel. What a selection. Yet they are representative of the Georgia GOP. How many supporters of Nathan Deal will put their hypocrisy on display by whining about the lack of ethics displayed by other politicians. Nathan’s Deals. They’re Real alright. And Karen. What to expect from her if elected. Ewwww. Abort that thought.
USinUK
August 10th, 2010
8:13 am
Normal … what’s the saying? giving up smoking, drinking and fatty foods won’t make you live forever … it’ll just FEEL that way.
but, it does make sense to do the small things that will help you to feel better. fresh foods! fresh foods! fresh foods! avoid as much processed as possible as it’s LOADED with sugar and salt. it’s the easiest thing to do that will yield the fastest results.
Paul
August 10th, 2010
8:14 am
USinUK
I keyed in on this paragraph: “It is an ideal that evaporates like dew in the face of the increasingly common reality of father as callow boy-man who has no idea how to fulfill the role to which circumstance has called him, often because he had no father of his own to teach him. “ (emphasis added).
Then this: “But like too many men, DeJesus apparently thought the primary lesson he had to teach his son was violence. This, he must have thought, would make his boy a man.
And this is a requiem for tomorrow’s victims.
Meaning the little boys and girls who are hit more often than they are hugged, left by blind mothers in the care of broken men who have no sense of self, no definition of role, no clue. ”
So it perpetuates.
And as far as his fate in prison, yeah. Told a psychologist friend I still have vivid memories when, as a kid, I read (think it was Life magazine) an account of a prison riot. Cops could observe what was going on but it was too dangerous for them to move in. Told of seeing prisoners torturing other prisoners to death. One guy (in for child abuse) was held down while another prisoner with a blow torch began at his feet and worked his way up. I asked the doc what could motivate that. He said ‘revenge. Many of those guys were victims of abuse and this is their way of getting back.”
Paul
August 10th, 2010
8:26 am
Normal
Time to lighten things up. Jimmy Kimmel playing Karl Malone on The Man Show:
“Today Karl Malone talking about health. Karl Malone healthy as horse but everybody not so lucky. All kinds of Americans infected by diabetes. Diabetes infect young, old, women, men, and here Karl Malone’s whole thing. Why they call it diabetes? They get people all riled up. That’s why Karl Malone say change name diabetes to livebetes. That way, people won’t go walking around saying “oh no, I’m gonna diabetes.” Instead, they saying, “look out world, livebetes coming through.” That’s called positivity thinking right there, and that’s kinda thing keep Karl Malone on top. Remember now, you too can prevent forest fire. Until next time, this here Karl Malone. “
USinUK
August 10th, 2010
8:33 am
Paul – “He said ‘revenge. Many of those guys were victims of abuse and this is their way of getting back” – I’ve heard the same thing …
there was a horrible case of child abuse here a few months ago – the authorities are keeping the perpetrators isolated “for their own safety” … my first thought was “WHY? they’ve been found guilty, let them serve their sentences with people who will mete out the justice they SHOULD get”
the thing about fatherless fathers not knowing how to do their job has never held water with me. my dad and 2 uncles lost their father a few months before my dad was born – you’ll never meet a better, more loving father than mine.
gosh, read anything by Pat Conroy and you can see that the “make a man out of you” brutal fatherhood isn’t a new phenomenon
Normal
August 10th, 2010
8:40 am
Paul, @ 8:26,
Livebetes…I like it!
———————-
USinUK,
When I read “The Great Santini”, I thought Conroy was writing about my teenage life with father…
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
August 10th, 2010
8:42 am
Morning everybody. I’m sorry to learn Normal’s got diabetes. My Grandma always said take a couple tablespoons of castor oil for it. It won’t help the diabetes but you’ll have lots of other things to worry about in a little while.
Anyhow, I done my Patriotic Duty this a.m. and voted in the runoff. It was a awful choice, a known crook or a woman with constant PMS. I voted for the known crook because us Conservatives hate change and at least I know I’m going to get screwed some more if Deal is the guvner. No use to change horses in the middle of the stream, they say, and besides, I’m use to it. I can’t hardly wait till he gets together with the other Conservatives down at the statehouse and they change the law to charge 10 cents on the dollar in sales taxes and cut the income tax for the Productive people. It’ll be Trickling Down pretty good then.
Have a good day everybody.
USinUK
August 10th, 2010
8:47 am
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/7936456/Tainted-Chinese-baby-milk-powder-causes-baby-girls-to-grow-breasts.html
if anyone thinks that FDA regulations are too onerous, let’s just look at what happens with a lax regulatory agency …
Normal
August 10th, 2010
8:47 am
A question that has been bugging me for quite a while…
Does Reneck’s nom de blog mean he was an elitist converted into a redneck, or the other way around? Inquiring minds, don’t cha know…
The State
August 10th, 2010
8:48 am
Fathers are over-rated. The idea that children need a fathe is old-fashioned. Children have us.
Male figures oppress women and are often violent. We have policies that are currently addressing this. We offer all males that are incarcerated a chance at re-education.
The family unit is anti-collective. We are one big global village and with the guiding hand that we provide, that is all that you need to progress.
USinUK
August 10th, 2010
8:51 am
TaxPayer
August 10th, 2010
9:08 am
Every thirty seconds, someone in this country files for bankruptcy in the wake of a serious illness.
Can you just imagine how bad it would be if we didn’t have the best danged healthcare system in the whole danged air force, er, um, I mean, in the whole danged world.
I wonder, onced all the rich folks in the USofA is no longer paying no taxes and is hiring us po folks to be their servants, will they provide us with good health care or just hire new servants as needed.
How exactly will this trickle down thingie commence to make our lives all gooder. Oh yes… and when.
Paul
August 10th, 2010
9:08 am
USinUK 8:33
There are exceptions to every general statement, particularly in the social sciences. I think overall, Mr. Pitts has a valid point, one that should cause young ladies (particularly those living in poverty who want their kids to have something better) to think beyond “I want….”.
Redneck
“It’ll be Trickling Down pretty good then.”
Yeah, you’ll be getting Hosed.
USinUK
The cartoon – been hearing a lot about that from pundits. I think emotion’s gone wild. Still not convinced the current amendment’s been settled law. In other words, Court hasn’t addressed ‘under the jurisdiction’ clause. I wonder if it ’s the same we saw for so many years with ‘right to keep and bear arms… militia” amendment. Neither side really wanted to risk a final, comprehensive decision.
USinUK
August 10th, 2010
9:14 am
TaxPayer … nothing to see here … move along … single-payer system is socialist, that’s all you need to know … move along …
Paul – “Mr. Pitts has a valid point, one that should cause young ladies (particularly those living in poverty who want their kids to have something better) to think beyond “I want….”. ”
no argument … but 9.9 times out of 10, they wouldn’t be pregnant in the first place if they thought about the bigger picture …
Kamchak
August 10th, 2010
9:15 am
The Anchorage Daily News reports that the family of Sen. Ted Stevens (R-AK) is concerned that he may have been on-board a GCI-owned plane that reportedly crashed near Dillingham, Alaska. Stevens was on his way to the GCI-owned Agulowak Lodge near Lake Aleknagik.
TaxPayer
August 10th, 2010
9:18 am
In 2005, the bottom 20 percent of household earners had an average income of $10,655 while households in the top 20 percent made nearly 160,000 – a disparity of 1,500 percent, the highest gap ever recorded
Those bottom feeders sure are a lazy bunch. And the really sad part is that the hard working folks at the top have to pay all the taxes to provide all sorts of services for those lazy bums at the bottom. This calls for some serious tax cuts. Vote Republican. They’ll fix that tax disparity because they care about us hard working folks.
BADA BING
August 10th, 2010
9:24 am
By my calculations, this thread will have 35-40 pages of comments before J gets back.
USinUK
August 10th, 2010
9:24 am
TaxPayer – “They’ll fix that tax disparity because they care about us hard working folks.”
disparity, schmisparity.
bootstraps, son! bootstraps!!
seriously, the GOP doesn’t care about income disparity – “them that’s got shall get” (the small print below “don’t tread on me”)
the only people I hear talking about disparity are Dems – and then, they’re accused of income redistribution. frankly, I don’t want redistribution – all I want is income FAIRNESS. I mean, on what planet is it FAIR that a CEO can make 3000x the salary of the lowest paid employee of a company (when you factor in bonuses and stocks, etc)?
USinUK
August 10th, 2010
9:25 am
Bada – 9:24 – and it’ll stink to high heaven … Jay will need to keep the doors and windows open for at LEAST a couple of days when he gets back …
Paul
August 10th, 2010
9:25 am
USinUK 9:14
LOL!
“if they thought about the bigger picture ”
But (specific exceptions notwithstanding) that contradicts the term ‘teenager’!
TaxPayer
I’ve seen references to the effect that ever since the War on Poverty in the 60s and spending of gazillions of dollars… that the percentage of people living in poverty is about unchanged.
I think there’s something else in play -
USinUK
August 10th, 2010
9:33 am
Paul – “But (specific exceptions notwithstanding) that contradicts the term ‘teenager’!”
HA! soooooo true!
“the percentage of people living in poverty is about unchanged”
I think he’s talking about the fact that, over the last 30 years, income for the middle class, as well, remains unchanged while the income for the top 1% has soared 30%.
“According to research from Moody’s Analytics, the top 5% of Americans by income account for 37% of all consumer outlays, which includes consumer spending, interest payments on installment debt and transfer payments. The bottom 80% account for 39.5%.”
The WSJ sees this as a defense of the rich and an excuse to give them more tax breaks (color me shocked!) … but, when you have a GDP comprised of 70% consumer spending, that means you have the majority of GDP relying on a minority, which is unsustainable. If you give the fat part of the bell curve greater income / spending power, the economy will thrive which is beneficial for EVERYone, not just the top 5%.
USinUK
August 10th, 2010
9:34 am
shoot. meant to include the link:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB20001424052748703988304575413432696177258.html
Paul
August 10th, 2010
9:42 am
USinUK 9:33
Yes, I’ve seen those numbers about the incredible increase in wealth accumulation for the top 1%. Just another reason why I think the tax brackets shouldn’t stop at an income of a few hundred thousand. We jump from a few hundred thousand to an income of hundreds of millions – yet the tax rate’s the same. Nutty.
See where the Congress just passed Medicare funding fix. Good. But attached was a bill for billions more to pay for teachers who would otherwise be laid off. We did this last year and states (mine included) did NOTHING to fix the problem on their own. So Democrats do a variation of “didn’t I tell you to fix this? Don’t make me tell you again…. meanwhile, here’s some money…” This is part of what I mean – Democrats take good intentions and go waaaay overboard.
USinUK
August 10th, 2010
9:47 am
Paul – “We jump from a few hundred thousand to an income of hundreds of millions – yet the tax rate’s the same. Nutty.”
interesting – you think there should be additional brackets?
TaxPayer
August 10th, 2010
9:48 am
America’s united states faced a cumulative 2010 budget gap, when they was working on the 2010 budgets back in 2009, of $166 billion for fiscal 2010. Fortunately for us, our government recognized early on, even back in 2008, that we would be in much more serious trouble if we did not take care of our friends on Wall Street as opposed to those on Main Street. Sure, that $182 billion spent just to bail out AIG could have been spent on the united states but what good would that have done us. We need those on Wall Street, especially the ones that do God’s work, to take care of us and what remains of our 401k’s and pension plans and IRAs and such. We just gotta have a little faith and maybe show our appreciation to the Blankfeins of the world.
By the way, I see that the total state budget shortfalls through fiscal 2011 are currently estimated at $380 billion. We needs to hurry up and get some Republicans back in charge before the Democrats go and do something stoopid like offering to help the united states instead of doing what’s right and giving us a proper and permanent tax cut that the Republicans, for some reason, failed to do back in 2001 and 2003. Why did the Republicans fail us back then by making those tax cuts for us hard workers only temporary. It was probably something that the Democrats did back then. I best go turn on Rush and Huckabee and Beck and Hannity and start listening to them every single day until I find out the truth. I know I can trust them to let me know what is really happening out there.
Paul
August 10th, 2010
9:50 am
USinUK 9:47
Yup. Decrease the current and expand and increase additional every few million dollars’ income.
‘Nuther thing I’ve been wondering about. Think it may fuel some of this “Obama wants to raise taxes’ sentiment. Tax brackets are about to revert to early-Bush years, yet administration says no increase for bulk of households. Then why increase the brackets? Leave them where they are.
Out for a bit -
TaxPayer
August 10th, 2010
9:56 am
I’ve seen references to the effect that ever since the War on Poverty in the 60s and spending of gazillions of dollars… that the percentage of people living in poverty is about unchanged.
There is indeed something else in play, Paul — this outrageous tax disparity. Can you imagine! Those poor hard-working folks at the top being forced into a life of near servitude with those huge tax rates. Those bottom feeders need to learn how to take care of themselves and get up off that couch and get a job like those hard working folks at the top did. Income disparity is just an excuse that the lazy folks use. The bums. The real problem is the income tax disparity. The rich should not be paying out gazillions of dollars no more. They earned that money and they should get all of it and be left to decide for themselves who they trickle on. They don’t need no stinking government person deciding that for them. Vote Republican and put an end to this madness.
Normal
August 10th, 2010
10:06 am
The subject of taxes; All I know is I pays lots of ‘em and I gets some back. I puts that away and I pays ‘em again and I gets a little back again, and I puts that away…and it has been and forever will be ’til death do we part…
Can’t say I like payin’ ‘em but I can’t say I don’t see the necessity of ‘em either…I just wish we ALL paid the same rate, say 20% off the top. If I knew the top 5%ers paid the same rate as me, I wouldn’t complain….but it has to be “off the top”.
Doggone/GA
August 10th, 2010
10:11 am
“I just wish we ALL paid the same rate, say 20% off the top”
That’s a “flat rate” tax and it’s inherently ufair to those lower on the economic scale. Someone makeing $20,000 a year feels the loss of 20% MUCH, MUCH more than does someone making a million dollars a year.
If we HAVE to have income tax, a progressive “flat” rate is more fair.
Normal
August 10th, 2010
10:14 am
TaxPayer
August 10th, 2010
9:56 am
I know you’re being a little snarky there, but I’ve found in my life that being part of the working poor, you do learn to become self sufficient. I work on my transportation, I fix my house problems (As long as no ladders are involved), etc. When I have to pay for something I take bids and go with the best (not necessarily the lowest).
You do what you have to do, but if we had a system like I said above, there would be no need for sales taxes and such. If the Feds and local Gomers can’t make it on 20% percent of EVERYBODIES money they need to take a pay cut for stupidity. Just sayin’
TaxPayer
August 10th, 2010
10:17 am
Elsewhere American Dairy (ADY) cried over spilt milk, tumbling 22.75% on an unexpected Q2 loss. Despite its name, the distributor of infant formula is actually based in Beijing.
What’s in a name anyway.
TaxPayer
August 10th, 2010
10:21 am
According to the White House, in 2004, the last year data on this was compiled, U.S. multinational corporations paid roughly $16 billion in taxes on $700 billion in foreign active earnings— putting their tax rate at around 2.3 percent.
The poor thangs. Just imagine all the good they could have done with that 16 billion.
Got milk?
August 10th, 2010
10:24 am
Biro’s study included 1,238 girls ages 6 to 8 who lived in one of three regions: Cincinnati, East Harlem, N.Y., or San Francisco. Puberty was determined by two examiners who worked independently to assess the girls’ breast development. By age 8, 27% of the girls had begun puberty: 18.3% of whites, 42.9% of blacks and 30.9% of Latinas.
Compared with data from the 1997 study, the age at which puberty begins did not fall for African American girls, although they still mature at younger ages than white or Latina girls. It’s not clear why there was no change for black girls. “Perhaps black girls have approached a biologic minimum,” Biro said.
Even for white and Latina girls, it is too early to declare that puberty age is still falling, said Dr. Joyce Lee, assistant professor of pediatric endocrinology at C.S. Mott Children’s Hospital at the University of Michigan, who was not involved in the study. The methodology used in the new study differs somewhat from the one in 1997, making direct comparisons difficult, she said.
But, she added, “it’s incredible the difference you see between the two studies.”
There are numerous potential explanations for why puberty is starting earlier. Chief among them is the increase in average body weight among children over the last three decades, Lee said. Excess body weight, especially body fat, is thought to increase the blood levels of estrogens that promote breast development. Earlier studies, including one by Lee, have linked early puberty to higher body mass index as far back as the toddler years.
http://www.latimes.com/health/sns-health-girls-puberty-age,0,4555646.story
TaxPayer
August 10th, 2010
10:24 am
Barry Bosworth and Rosanna Smart of the Brookings Institution found that the catastrophic collapse of the 2008 sub-prime mortgage market resulted in the disappearance of $13 trillion in American household wealth between mid-2007 and March 2009… on average, U.S. households lost one quarter of their wealth in that period,
Darned CRA. Lokk what they done gone and did. Why did Obama let this happen. And where did he stash all that money.
Don't Forget
August 10th, 2010
10:25 am
News that former Hewlett-Packard Chairman and Chief Executive Mark Hurd will get severance payments worth an estimated $28 million despite being ousted in a scandal revives a question asked after nearly every outbreak of corporate misfeasance: Why?
A rank-and-file employee let go for fudging expense accounts or otherwise violating company policy likely would be given time to clean out the desk and little more. But senior executives like Hurd play by a different set of rules, often hammered out years earlier by expensive lawyers.
That 28 million belonged to the shareholders of HP. Will anyone on the right condemn this sort of practice? Of course not.
Hey Taxpayer, so you think this guy EARNED that 28 million even though he got fired for fudging an expense account?
Del
August 10th, 2010
10:26 am
As the facts are now coming out about the honorable Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf we have Obama’s state department sending this POS to the Middle East at taxpayer expense. It doesn’t get much worse, however, it probably will. I don’t know if this is plain incompetence or treason.
USinUK
August 10th, 2010
10:27 am
TaxPayer – “Darned CRA”
don’t make me turn this car around.
Barney Frank
August 10th, 2010
10:29 am
What housing bubble?
TaxPayer
August 10th, 2010
10:31 am
Derivatives! They’re not just for Calculus any more.
TaxPayer
August 10th, 2010
10:42 am
Don’t Forget. I sold my shares of HP way back when Carly was put in charge and haven’t looked back. Do you happen to know how much bailout money they got from the fed and how much of it they paid back and how much interest they paid. Is it anything like these folks?
Normal
August 10th, 2010
10:44 am
Y’all read this?
http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/official-stevens-believed-aboard-588644.html
Paulo977
August 10th, 2010
10:48 am
On thinking…” there is nothing either good or bad but thinking makes it so”!!!!!!..Will Shakespeare
The Big Dipper
August 10th, 2010
10:49 am
WASHINGTON — Wholesale inventories post tiny increase in June but sales fall by largest amount in 15 months.–AP
USinUK
August 10th, 2010
10:51 am
Normal … if you’re a congress critter, you might want to think twice about flying to Alaska …
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hale_Boggs
if you’re a musician, you should avoid airplanes whenever possible.
GITMO AH UHM AH GO GO?
August 10th, 2010
10:54 am
The young Canadian, now 23, faces a maximum life sentence if convicted of charges including murder, conspiracy and spying.
He has turned down an offer to spend the next 30 years in prison – five of them in Guantanamo, with the remaining 25 years in Canada.
Khadr’s trail is the first under U.S. President Barack Obama, who failed to meet a self-imposed deadline to close the controversial detention center by January of this year.
http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/usa/Judge-Allows-Confession-in-Guantanamo-Trial-100339989.html
Five more years of Gitmo?
hee
TaxPayer
August 10th, 2010
10:56 am
As MIT professor Simon Johnson recounted in the Atlantic, between 1973 and 1985, the financial industry’s share of domestic corporate profits topped out at 16 percent. In the 1990s, it spanned between 21 percent and 30 percent. Just before the financial crisis hit, it stood at 41 percent. The share of our economy devoted to making things of value is shrinking, while the share devoted to valuing made-up things (credit-swap derivatives, anyone?) is expanding. It’s the financialization of our economy.” – Arianna Huffington
Well said.
BO Dacious
August 10th, 2010
11:04 am
This is the latest in a series of biannual reports by the UN and confirms that violence continues to increase across Afghanistan.
It is not just soldiers but civilians who are being killed or injured in unprecedented numbers in this nine-year old conflict.
According to the UN’s special representative in Afghanistan, Staffan de Mistura, “the human cost of the conflict is escalating in 2010 and civilian casualties are increasing substantially”.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-10928982
Unprecedented? But, but, but what about Bush?
USinUK
August 10th, 2010
11:06 am
“But, but, but what about Bush?”
he got distracted by something shiney and went into Iraq.
Normal
August 10th, 2010
11:09 am
USinUK,
I remember that one. They still show it on “Vanishings” because they were never found.
Who’s the real tan Republican? I heard his tan is from spending 119 days on the golf course instead of in the Halls. Good thing for him they don’t have many golf courses in Alaska, I guess…
119 X 4hrs= 476hrs=59.5 eight hour days @ taxpayer expense…
Just thought I’d show off my math skills…
Bosch
August 10th, 2010
11:14 am
g’morning USinUK, Normal, and Taxpayer — soo…what’s for lunch?
USinUK
August 10th, 2010
11:15 am
“119 X 4hrs= 476hrs=59.5 eight hour days @ taxpayer expense…”
it’s a tough job, but someone’s gotta do it …
you know, Ted Stevens was one of the biggest proponents of the Bridge to Nowhere … maybe he should have advocated for a runway, instead.
(sorry. I couldn’t help myself)
USinUK
August 10th, 2010
11:16 am
Bosch … where ya been? the question, my friendly, is what’s for DINNER … tonight is cottage pie with swiss chard (picked fresh from my rainy back garden) and cauliflower.
Saul Good
August 10th, 2010
11:17 am
“But, but, but what about Bush?”
Oh you mean THAT guy…the very one who sent over less troops to Afghanistan compared to the amount of police officers patrolling all of NYC… (because he KNEW he needed to keep the MAJORITY of our troops to go and invade Iraq instead)…
Same guy who said this:
“We’re going to get [Bin Laden] Dead or alive, it doesn’t matter to me.” 12/14/2001
I guess it just didn’t matter….
Paul
August 10th, 2010
11:18 am
TaxPayer 9:58
“There is indeed something else in play, Paul — this outrageous tax disparity. ”
Regarding why percentage in poverty has been relatively constant since mid-60s programs to address it.
People in poverty don’t pay income taxes. So I don’t see how the current tax policy keeps people in poverty. I think other factors are at work.
‘Course, you also posted something about fed tax policy causing state budget deficits. You just being funny with one answer fits all?
I once read there was a time when the majority of fed receipts came from corporate tax. As you posting showed, those days are loooonnnnnnng gone.
Lessee… corps have lots of $$$, wine and dine the Hill, pay lots of $$$$, provide lots of jobs for ex Congressmen and staffers…. their tax rates go waaay down.
There’s gotta be a connection somewhere…..
Disgusted
August 10th, 2010
11:19 am
I sold my shares of HP way back when Carly was put in charge and haven’t looked back. Do you happen to know how much bailout money they got from the fed and how much of it they paid back and how much interest they paid.
Good old HP! First Carly gets caught bugging the telephones of members of the Board of Directors and receives a huge buy-out to leave. Now this guy gets caught doctoring expense statements to pay for the help of a floozy. But only $28 million—a mere pittance compared to Carly’s haul.
I see dead people
August 10th, 2010
11:21 am
ABC News Reports On John Murtha’s Pork Laden Airport
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvzNj0Vobss
$150M in taxpayers dollars but few passengers.
More stimulus money on the way.
TaxPayer
August 10th, 2010
11:24 am
Paul,
I think you see what you want to see in some of my posts. Is that just you being funny.
Don't Forget
August 10th, 2010
11:26 am
TaxPayer
August 10th, 2010
10:42 am
Don’t Forget. I sold my shares of HP way back when Carly was put in charge and haven’t looked back. Do you happen to know how much bailout money they got from the fed and how much of it they paid back and how much interest they paid. Is it anything like these folks?
Good move, Carly was a mess and still is. As for the AAA rating stuff I totally agree, it’s a joke. Those bogus AAA ratings were why the housing crisis spread throughout the economy. It’s just a license for Wall Street bankers to lie and cheat their customers, selling junk as though it was worth something. Al Franken proposed an amendment to financial reform which would have taken the control of ratings away from the banks but it was defeated by the defenders of Wall Street.
Good post from the MIT professor too. Couldn’t agree more.
Don't Forget
August 10th, 2010
11:28 am
I see dead people
August 10th, 2010
11:21 am
ABC News Reports On John Murtha’s Pork Laden Airport
Who is this Pork Laden anyway? Any relation to bin laden????? lol
USinUK
August 10th, 2010
11:29 am
“Who is this Pork Laden anyway? Any relation to bin laden?”
funny. on many levels.
well played
TaxPayer
August 10th, 2010
11:30 am
Disgusted. What these poor CEOs and other corporate folks need is a tax cut. I mean, can you just imagine the tax bill on 28 million while those bottom feeders, making tens of thousands of dollars a year for working probably less than sixty hours per week, get away with paying nothing more than payroll taxes. Why do we treat our hardly working upper income people so unfairly. We need to make those temporary Republican tax cuts more than just permanent. We need to make them bigger and maybe even send out an apology to folks like Hurd and especially Blankfein. He does God’s work.
Paul
August 10th, 2010
11:35 am
TaxPayer
I just figured you were dishing it back to the “Tax Cuts Are the Answer for Everything” crowd.
I’ve used Jay’s question of “what are you going to cut to pay for your tax cuts?” line a few times. Most of the time people just give me an uncomfortable stare.
Then their brains short-circuit.
TaxPayer
August 10th, 2010
11:35 am
Al Franken for President in 2016. After all, he needs to get some years of experience in politics under his belt before running for the highest office in the land.
larry
August 10th, 2010
11:36 am
Blankfein…………………….i thought he was God.
Just think, once a upon a time , I wanted to work for Goldman Sachs. That went away quick.
TaxPayer
August 10th, 2010
11:37 am
We could always hope that Gates is really gonna make some serious cuts in that DoD budget, for one. Then again, that’s about as believable as Blankfein doing God’s work.
Don't Forget
August 10th, 2010
11:42 am
I’ve used Jay’s question of “what are you going to cut to pay for your tax cuts?” line a few times. Most of the time people just give me an uncomfortable stare.
Then their brains short-circuit.
The look is the same as when a kid learns there’s no Santa Claus.
Paul
August 10th, 2010
11:43 am
TaxPayer
Report/Whine had a valid point this morning. Under this administration, it’s Defense that’s looking to cut programs and organizations. None of the nonDefense agencies have taken the initiative.
@@
August 10th, 2010
11:45 am
Are you people minding jay’s store while he’s on vacation!!??!!
Really?????
What’s the incentive….stimulating, jay?
eewwwwwwwww
Disgusted
August 10th, 2010
11:48 am
We could always hope that Gates is really gonna make some serious cuts in that DoD budget, for one. Then again, that’s about as believable as Blankfein doing God’s work.
Lotsa luck with the cutting. Gates announced plans to save a big chunk of money by closing Joint Command in Norfolk–the one Marine Gen. Mattis ran before being assigned to command CentCom and the one Gen. Ray Odierno is being assigned to. The squawling began immediately, beginning with the Virginia governor and continuing with Sen. James Webb. The only person who praised the plan was a senator well away from Virginia. Once that command is closed, I’m keeping a close eye out for flying pigs. A guy could get hurt, y’know?
Don't Forget
August 10th, 2010
11:51 am
Ok, if we can’t agree that this is a good idea, there’s no hope.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38632799/ns/us_news-environment/
USinUK
August 10th, 2010
11:54 am
Lionfish … it’s what’s for dinner.
Got Lion?
Lionfish … the other spiney meat.
Normal
August 10th, 2010
11:55 am
If you can fry it in cornbread, I’m eatin’ it…
lionfish seviche
August 10th, 2010
11:56 am
I, for one, am willing to change my screen name in service to this noble enterprise.
Normal
August 10th, 2010
11:56 am
Paul
August 10th, 2010
11:43 am
TaxPayer
Report/Whine had a valid point this morning.
Paul,
Don’t ever say that again. I fell out of my chair!
USinUK
August 10th, 2010
11:59 am
mmmmm … seviiiiiiiiche …
Don't Forget
August 10th, 2010
12:00 pm
Poison, poison, tasty fish………………….. for the Simpson’s fans out there
Paul
August 10th, 2010
12:05 pm
Don’t Forget
Do they taste like chicken?
Normal
oops……. sorry………
stands for decibels
August 10th, 2010
12:06 pm
the Braves made conscious decisions to begin the season with a statue playing first then traded for a shortstop that can’t catch the ball, a center fielder that can’t hit
RW, “can’t hit” is relative. My team’s center fielder’s current SLG is a towering .312…
Normal
August 10th, 2010
12:06 pm
How about this???
http://www.navytimes.com/news/2010/08/ap_mccain_vietnam_081010/
stands for decibels
August 10th, 2010
12:07 pm
Paul,
Don’t ever say that again. I fell out of my chair!
Worst of all, he made me look. And no, that wasn’t the point Whiner was making. The point Whiner was making was, “DemonCRAPZ hate America and ’speshully its NATIONAL SECURITY.”
which is the only point he ever makes. On any day, at any time.
Bosch
August 10th, 2010
12:08 pm
USinUK,
I love swiss chard. And I’m also a big kale fan too — I make a soup out of it with sausage and potatoes. I’m so ready for fall…..soups, stews, roasted veggies….sigh……
BADA BING
August 10th, 2010
12:09 pm
usin uk, isn’t it ceviche?
stands for decibels
August 10th, 2010
12:09 pm
I guess I should mention this here’s a drive-by. Be back later…
BADA BING
August 10th, 2010
12:10 pm
Not correcting you, it is ceviche in Peru.
Bosch
August 10th, 2010
12:10 pm
Paul,
“Under this administration, it’s Defense that’s looking to cut programs and organizations.”
I heard Gates talking about that very thing just this morning. And good thing they are doing it too. Why should the other agencies cut funding which is running on skeleton crews enough? Let the DoD cut some crap first then we can talk about the other agencies.
Normal
August 10th, 2010
12:17 pm
Deja Vu?
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/113431-white-house-unloads-on-professional-left
@@
August 10th, 2010
12:18 pm
Too funny!
Women in bikinis sat in camp chairs Sunday outside the New Beginnings Ministries church in Warsaw, about 60 miles northeast of Columbus.
Women in bikinis sat in camp chairs Sunday outside the New Beginnings Ministries church in Warsaw, about 60 miles northeast of Columbus.
Tommy George owns the Foxhole strip club in nearby Newcastle. He says he and his employees decided to start coming to the church because they were fed up.
George says the church’s pastor, Bill Dunfee, and his congregation have bothered the club’s weekend patrons. He says they come armed with bullhorns, signs and video cameras for posting customers’ license plate numbers online.
Dunfee calls George a “parasite” and says seeing the protesters outside the church has strengthened the resolve of his flock.
We never protest, but if ^^^ that were to happen at my church, I’d just go out and invite the women to come inside where it’s cool.
Normal
August 10th, 2010
12:21 pm
Hey Bosch,
Soups and sandwiches…yeah baby! Chili and thick spicy stews, toasted roast beef on kaiser rolls au jus and swiss cheese…OHMYGAWD!! ORGASM!!!
Normal
August 10th, 2010
12:23 pm
…and good Christians, everyone…
Bosch
August 10th, 2010
12:25 pm
NORMAL!!!
Inspiring Minds
August 10th, 2010
12:34 pm
Is @@ about to take up the cause of those women in bikinis.
Paul
August 10th, 2010
12:36 pm
stands for decibels
12:07 “Paul,
Don’t ever say that again. I fell out of my chair!
Worst of all, he made me look. And no, that wasn’t the point Whiner was making. The point Whiner was making was, “DemonCRAPZ hate America and ’speshully its NATIONAL SECURITY.”
which is the only point he ever makes. On any day, at any time.”
I was referring to Report/Whine’s 5:37 am post, which referred to cutting Defense but not nonDefense:
“SECRETARY OF DEFENSE Robert Gates called for the elimination of the Norfolkbased Joint Forces Command on Monday as part of a broader effort to reduce certain kinds of military spending – especially a growing reliance on defense contractors. “The culture of endless money that has taken hold must be replaced by a culture of savings and restraint,” Gates said.
After the wildest, most irresponsible, totally debauched spending spree in the history of the entire world, the liberals finally find some “restraint” when it comes to National Security, of course.
Some things never change.”
Bosch
I don’t think every single program in every single agency is running on skeleton funding….
@@
I’d offer to hold an umbrella to keep the sun off’em -
Normal
“Professional Left.”
I like that -
Paul
August 10th, 2010
12:38 pm
Robert Gibbs from Normal’s link:
““I hear these people saying he’s like George Bush. Those people ought to be drug tested,” Gibbs said. “I mean, it’s crazy.””
AmVet, where are you when you’re needed?
@@
August 10th, 2010
12:58 pm
Paul:
I’d offer to hold an umbrella to keep the sun off’em
You so kind. Watching the video, one of ‘em looked to weigh about 180 lbs (wearing a cowboy hat) the other probably weighed about 80 lbs, soaking wet.
Naaahhhh, I’d just invite ‘em in….one of ‘em had a severe case of herpes simplex. She needed to be inside.
Paulo977
August 10th, 2010
12:59 pm
Seviiiiiche?Friend of mine from Peru prepared it for me BUT I just couldn’t please him by saying ‘this is good’!!
Paulo977
August 10th, 2010
12:59 pm
Seviiiiiche?Friend of mine from Peru prepared it for me BUT I just couldn’t please him by saying ‘this is good’!!
Normal
August 10th, 2010
12:59 pm
This is an interesting read…
http://www.thenation.com/blog/153941/press-censorship-how-truth-was-hidden-about-nagasaki-65-years-ago#node-153941
Normal
August 10th, 2010
1:00 pm
is it time…