NYC’s Bloomberg reminds a nation of its true greatness

Mayor Michael Bloomberg, with the Statue of Liberty as his backdrop, stood with leaders of various faiths Tuesday to show support for the construction of an Islamic center two blocks from the devastation of Sept. 11, 2001. The entire text is below, and requires no further comment.

But I do want to say this much: Eat your heart out, Newt Gingrich. This is not some sniveling appeal to the fearful and the faint-hearted; it is not a surrender. This is America at her best, brave enough to live by the principles it claims to uphold.

“We’ve come here to Governors Island to stand where the earliest settlers first set foot in New Amsterdam, and where the seeds of religious tolerance were first planted. We come here to see the inspiring symbol of liberty that more than 250 years later would greet millions of immigrants in this harbor. And we come here to state as strongly as ever, this is the freest city in the world. That’s what makes New York special and different and strong.

“Our doors are open to everyone. Everyone with a dream and a willingness to work hard and play by the rules. New York City was built by immigrants, and it’s sustained by immigrants — by people from more than 100 different countries speaking more than 200 different languages and professing every faith. And whether your parents were born here or you came here yesterday, you are a New Yorker.

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“We may not always agree with every one of our neighbors. That’s life. And it’s part of living in such a diverse and dense city. But we also recognize that part of being a New Yorker is living with your neighbors in mutual respect and tolerance. It was exactly that spirit of openness and acceptance that was attacked on 9/11, 2001.

“On that day, 3,000 people were killed because some murderous fanatics didn’t want us to enjoy the freedoms to profess our own faiths, to speak our own minds, to follow our own dreams, and to live our own lives. Of all our precious freedoms, the most important may be the freedom to worship as we wish. And it is a freedom that even here — in a city that is rooted in Dutch tolerance — was hard-won over many years.

“In the mid-1650s, the small Jewish community living in lower Manhattan petitioned Dutch governor Peter Stuyvesant for the right to build a synagogue, and they were turned down. In 1657, when Stuyvesant also prohibited Quakers from holding meetings, a group of non-Quakers in Queens signed the Flushing Remonstrance, a petition in defense of the right of Quakers and others to freely practice their religion. It was perhaps the first formal political petition for religious freedom in the American colonies, and the organizer was thrown in jail and then banished from New Amsterdam.

“In the 1700s, even as religious freedom took hold in America, Catholics in New York were effectively prohibited from practicing their religion, and priests could be arrested. Largely as a result, the first Catholic parish in New York City was not established until the 1780s, St. Peter’s on Barclay Street, which still stands just one block north of the World Trade Center site, and one block south of the proposed mosque and community center.

“This morning, the city’s Landmark Preservation Commission unanimously voted to extend — not to extend — landmark status to the building on Park Place where the mosque and community center are planned. The decision was based solely on the fact that there was little architectural significance to the building. But with or without landmark designation, there is nothing in the law that would prevent the owners from opening a mosque within the existing building.

“The simple fact is, this building is private property, and the owners have a right to use the building as a house of worship, and the government has no right whatsoever to deny that right. And if it were tried, the courts would almost certainly strike it down as a violation of the U.S. Constitution.

“Whatever you may think of the proposed mosque and community center, lost in the heat of the debate has been a basic question: Should government attempt to deny private citizens the right to build a house of worship on private property based on their particular religion? That may happen in other countries, but we should never allow it to happen here.

“This nation was founded on the principle that the government must never choose between religions or favor one over another. The World Trade Center site will forever hold a special place in our city, in our hearts. But we would be untrue to the best part of ourselves and who we are as New Yorkers and Americans if we said no to a mosque in lower Manhattan.

“Let us not forget that Muslims were among those murdered on 9/11, and that our Muslim neighbors grieved with us as New Yorkers and as Americans. We would betray our values and play into our enemies’ hands if we were to treat Muslims differently than anyone else. In fact, to cave to popular sentiment would be to hand a victory to the terrorists, and we should not stand for that.

“For that reason, I believe that this is an important test of the separation of church and state as we may see in our lifetimes, as important a test. And it is critically important that we get it right.

“On Sept. 11, 2001, thousands of first responders heroically rushed to the scene and saved tens of thousands of lives. More than 400 of those first responders did not make it out alive. In rushing into those burning buildings, not one of them asked, ‘What God do you pray to?’ (Bloomberg’s voice cracks here a little as he gets choked up.) ‘What beliefs do you hold?’

“The attack was an act of war, and our first responders defended not only our city, but our country and our constitution. We do not honor their lives by denying the very constitutional rights they died protecting. We honor their lives by defending those rights and the freedoms that the terrorists attacked.

“Of course, it is fair to ask the organizers of the mosque to show some special sensitivity to the situation, and in fact their plan envisions reaching beyond their walls and building an interfaith community. But doing so, it is my hope that the mosque will help to bring our city even closer together, and help repudiate the false and repugnant idea that the attacks of 9/11 were in any ways consistent with Islam.

“Muslims are as much a part of our city and our country as the people of any faith. And they are as welcome to worship in lower Manhattan as any other group. In fact, they have been worshipping at the site for better, the better part of a year, as is their right. The local community board in lower Manhattan voted overwhelmingly to support the proposal. And if it moves forward, I expect the community center and mosque will add to the life and vitality of the neighborhood and the entire city.

“Political controversies come and go, but our values and our traditions endure, and there is no neighborhood in this city that is off-limits to God’s love and mercy, as the religious leaders here with us can attest.”

302 comments Add your comment

jt

August 4th, 2010
7:51 am

Muslims are alright to Bloomberg.

But trans-fat or salt is not.

Progressivism? sheeesh.

@@

August 4th, 2010
7:55 am

O.K., so some speechwriter came up with the perfect speech for Bloomberg to deliver.

I saw Newt on Bill O’Reilly last night. He (Newt) put forth an interesting question:

If the mosque’s coordinators are so interesting is sending an interfaith message, why not build a center that housed a church, a mosque and a synagogue?

Good question, Newt.

Whatevah…..what’s done is done.

Finn McCool

August 4th, 2010
7:59 am

why not build a center that housed a church, a mosque and a synagogue?

Glad newt isn’t an architect! What an imbecile.

Jay

August 4th, 2010
7:59 am

@@, that’s not Newt’s idea. The imam in question proposed PRECISELY that several years ago for the Ground Zero site.

JohnnyReb

August 4th, 2010
8:00 am

Bloomberg is an idiot of the highest order. And, those who think the Mosque is the “right” thing to do need to heed the message in the following article, especially where it starts “under the pretense of tolerance.”

ALL EUROPEAN LIFE DIED IN AUSCHWITZ, By Sebastian Vilar Rodrigez

I walked down the street in Barcelona , and suddenly discovered a terrible truth – Europe died in Auschwitz … We killed six million Jews and replaced them with 20 million Muslims. In Auschwitz we burned a culture, thought, creativity, talent. We destroyed the chosen people, truly chosen, because they produced great and wonderful people who changed the world.

The contribution of this people is felt in all areas of life: science, art, international trade, and above all, as the conscience of the world. These are the people we burned.

And under the pretense of tolerance, and because we wanted to prove to ourselves that we were cured of the disease of racism, we opened our gates to 20 million Muslims, who brought us stupidity and ignorance, religious extremism and lack of tolerance, crime and poverty, due to an unwillingness to work and support their families with pride.

They have blown up our trains and turned our beautiful Spanish cities into the third world, drowning in filth and crime.

Shut up in the apartments they receive free from the government, they plan the murder and destruction of their naive hosts.

And thus, in our misery, we have exchanged culture for fanatical hatred, creative skill for destructive skill, intelligence for backwardness and superstition.

We have exchanged the pursuit of peace of the Jews of Europe and their talent for a better future for their children, their determined clinging to life because life is holy, for those who pursue death, for people consumed by the desire for death for themselves and others, for our children and theirs.

What a terrible mistake was made by miserable Europe!!

TheCrooksAreStillAtIT

August 4th, 2010
8:00 am

The congregation of the church and synagogue should fund their own buildings near ground zero. It was a stupid question, NEWT!!!

“Political controversies come and go, but our values and our traditions endure, and there is no neighborhood in this city that is off-limits to God’s love and mercy, as the religious leaders here with us can attest.”

That was a beautiful statement and some should take it to heart.

USinUK

August 4th, 2010
8:01 am

“But I do want to say this much: Eat your heart out, Newt Gingrich. This is not some sniveling appeal to the fearful and the faint-hearted; it is not a surrender. This is America at her best, brave enough to live by the principles it claims to uphold.”

forget the polite golf clap, this gets raucous applause and a “woowoo!!!”

Finn McCool

August 4th, 2010
8:01 am

People claiming this country was founded on religious freedom wanting to limit the religious freedom of people.

????

USinUK

August 4th, 2010
8:05 am

Finn – they never claim that this country was founded on religious freedom … they claim that this country was founded on Judeo Christian beliefs.

USinUK

August 4th, 2010
8:05 am

Finn – and they only include the Judeo to be polite

Peadawg

August 4th, 2010
8:05 am

Man what a slap in the face. And the fact that Jay, Finn, and others don’t see it that way…..I don’t even know what to say.

TheCrooksAreStillAtIT

August 4th, 2010
8:05 am

They think this country was founded for their religious freedom and beliefs ONLY.

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August 4th, 2010
8:07 am

This is not some sniveling appeal to the fearful and the faint-hearted; it is not a surrender.

The vast majority of Americans are against this defilement of hallowed, sacred ground, so that means kookman thinks We The People are “snivelers.”

Getting tired of these spineless self aggrandized elites telling you should feel about the completely obvious?

Granny Godzilla

August 4th, 2010
8:08 am

Bloomberg knocked it out of the park.

Very well done sir.

Jay

August 4th, 2010
8:08 am

It is indeed a slap in the face, Peadawg, and that slapped face belongs to Osama bin Laden and his ilk. The construction of that Islamic center is a victory for America and everything we claim to represent.

USinUK

August 4th, 2010
8:10 am

“Man what a slap in the face.”

okay. I’ll play. why?

Jimmy Carter

August 4th, 2010
8:10 am

When rubbed in your face, policital correctness can be quite nauseating.

USinUK

August 4th, 2010
8:11 am

“so that means kookman thinks We The People are “snivelers.””

only you that snivle.

USinUK

August 4th, 2010
8:12 am

“When rubbed in your face, policital correctness can be quite nauseating.”

nowhere NEAR as nauseating as turning your back on the very principles this country was founded on.

Peadawg

August 4th, 2010
8:13 am

“okay. I’ll play. why?”

If you and others can’t figure out why a mosque being built by Ground Zero is a slap to the face of Americans…..wow. My question to them is why there? Why 2 fckin’ blocks from Ground Zero?

Atticus Finch

August 4th, 2010
8:16 am

How big is the “hallowed, sacred ground” around Ground Zero? 1 block, 2 blocks, 3 blocks, 10 blocks?

People who live in that area shouldn’t be allowed to build anything since the ground is “sacred” or just Muslims shouldn’t be allowed to build?

Granny Godzilla

August 4th, 2010
8:16 am

Considering the radical rights propensity for bondage clubs, you’d think a slap in the face would just be considered foreplay.

Saul Good

August 4th, 2010
8:17 am

Jay@ 7:59… you beat me to the punch on that.

He’s still also said that ALL are welcome to use the facilities there. That the pool, gym, etc will be for public use for all who reside there.

Vinny

August 4th, 2010
8:17 am

Oh Jay – your’re trying to pass this bleeding heart “religious tolerance” claptrap on us, all the while Christian religious tolerance gets trampled on by you libs on a daily basis.

Thou hypocrite.

Saul Good

August 4th, 2010
8:18 am

Peadawg…would you care if a church or temple was built there?

let me ask…did any MUSLIM AMERICANS die that day? Were there lives worth less?

Jay

August 4th, 2010
8:19 am

Why NOT, Peadawg?

This is a free country. If you want to block a religious group from building a facility on its own property that is fully within every zoning rule, you better have a damn good reason.

And you don’t.

Peadawg

August 4th, 2010
8:20 am

“Peadawg…would you care if a church or temple was built there?”

Nope, not at all since it wasn’t Christians or Jews that flew a plane into 2 American buildings.

USinUK

August 4th, 2010
8:21 am

“If you and others can’t figure out why a mosque being built by Ground Zero is a slap to the face of Americans…..wow”

seriously, Peadawg – I want to know – why? this is being built 2 blocks away and is a community center meant to foster relations between the west …

your argument is no better than the dippy-heads that say “well, if you don’t know why I’m mad at you, then I’m not going to tell you”

Granny Godzilla

August 4th, 2010
8:22 am

Vinny

“Christian religious tolerance gets trampled on by you libs on a daily basis.”

Piffle

ty webb

August 4th, 2010
8:22 am

ah yes jay, your blog is a standing testament to religious tolerance. Okay, cue the next “talibaptist” or “talibangelical” comment allowed in 3…2…1…

USinUK

August 4th, 2010
8:23 am

“all the while Christian religious tolerance gets trampled on by you libs on a daily basis”

ohgoodgrief … are you kidding??? care to cite examples of “intolerance”??? (oh, and disagreeing isn’t intolerance, so don’t even try it)

Jimmy Carter

August 4th, 2010
8:23 am

Remember, everyone, Islam is a religion of peace.

USinUK

August 4th, 2010
8:23 am

Granny G – 8:16 … oooo … now, that was good.

USinUK

August 4th, 2010
8:24 am

Jimmy – 8:23 – considering the number of doctors that have been murdered by so-called “christians” in the name of god, you might want to rethink that tack …

Atticus Finch

August 4th, 2010
8:25 am

So Peadawg, Catholic churches shouldn’t be allowed in Oklahoma City since Timothy McVeigh was Catholic?

Dave R.

August 4th, 2010
8:27 am

Nice speech from a man who doesn’t have a principled bone in his body. Pandered to virtually everyone.

Again, they have the right to build, but they are not exhibiting one iota of understanding in forcing this issue, as they claim their goal is.

Saul Good

August 4th, 2010
8:31 am

Peadawg… what’s the “distance” that’s allowable according to YOUR bigotry which would not be a “slap in a face” to REAL AMERICANS (like you)?

Maybe you should start a letter writing campaign asking for them to take that pesky 1 amendment.

Jimmy Carter

August 4th, 2010
8:33 am

USinUK
August 4th, 2010
8:24 am

I knew someone would play that card, I just didn’t think it would be you. Lame.

In whose name did Adolph Hitler, Joseph Stalin, and Pol Pot try to cleanse from the world? And these are just three “enlightened” free thinkers.

stands for decibels

August 4th, 2010
8:34 am

Muslims are as much a part of our city and our country as the people of any faith.

Which is, at the end of the day, what this “controversy” is really about. Most Americans can accept this, if not necessarily celebrate it; other Americans (and I use that term rather charitably) are programmed not to.

Jimmy Carter

August 4th, 2010
8:34 am

Saul Good
August 4th, 2010
8:31 am

So that “pesky 1 amendment” is about real estate and mosques?

andygrd

August 4th, 2010
8:35 am

Okay, so why don’t they make it an interfaith place of worship? What is stopping them from doing that? Many people of various nationalities and religions died that day? Make it an interfaith…. Who turned it down? Jay , do you know ?

Peadawg

August 4th, 2010
8:36 am

“bigotry”

That didn’t take long. Congrats Saul Good. USinUK, there’s you can example of intolerance^^^ When all else fails, start calling names!

USinUK

August 4th, 2010
8:36 am

not jimmeh – “I knew someone would play that card, I just didn’t think it would be you. Lame.”

just cuz you don’t like it doesn’t mean it’s wrong. or lame.

fanatical christians like those that I mentioned are no more indicative of all of christianity than islamic terrorists are indicative of islam.

Jimmy Carter

August 4th, 2010
8:37 am

USinUK
August 4th, 2010
8:24 am

I forgot to include chariman mao. That adds about another 35 milliion or so deaths. My bad.

Now just how many adortion doctors have been killed by christians? One is too many, but what is that body count?

USinUK

August 4th, 2010
8:38 am

peadawg – ” USinUK, there’s you can example of intolerance^^^ ”

how is that an example of intolerance towards christians? he didn’t say anything ABOUT your religion

Peadawg

August 4th, 2010
8:38 am

andygrd @ 8:35…that’s actually a pretty good idea. It’d be away for ALL faiths to worship there and pray for the victims of 9/11.

godless heathen

August 4th, 2010
8:38 am

Mr. Bloomberg says: “Should government attempt to deny private citizens the right to build a house of worship on private property based on their particular religion?”

Government denies private citizens the right to build things on private property based on the religion of environmentalism, so why not?

Jimmy Carter

August 4th, 2010
8:39 am

USinUK
August 4th, 2010
8:36 am

Taking a cue from you, just cuz you said it doesn’t mean it’s right.

larry

August 4th, 2010
8:39 am

Nope, not at all since it wasn’t Christians or Jews that flew a plane into 2 American buildings

But it wasnt just Christians or Jews or Americans that died in those 2 American buildings.

USinUK

August 4th, 2010
8:39 am

not jimmeh – “Now just how many adortion doctors have been killed by christians? One is too many”

you just answered your own question.

Jimmy Carter

August 4th, 2010
8:40 am

Peadawg
August 4th, 2010
8:38 am

I’m sure the muslims will agree to that. After all, they’re known for their religious tolerance and love of the jews.

Peadawg

August 4th, 2010
8:40 am

“how is that an example of intolerance towards christians? he didn’t say anything ABOUT your religion”

My apologies. I thought your were talking about intolerance in general…not just religion. Sorry for misreading your post.

USinUK

August 4th, 2010
8:40 am

jimmeh – “Taking a cue from you, just cuz you said it doesn’t mean it’s right.”

so, you honestly think that ALL muslems are like the people on the 9/11 flights?

USinUK

August 4th, 2010
8:41 am

Pdawg – 8:40 – :-) de nachos.

Vinny

August 4th, 2010
8:41 am

TheCrooksAreStillAtIT

August 4th, 2010
8:42 am

The congregations of the mosque are not responsible or obligated to building an interfaith place of worship. Like I stated earlier, if a church or synagogue wants to be near ground zero; they should use their own building funds.

If NEWT and others on this blog want an interfaith place of worship, they should start an outreach building fund for exactly that purpose.

Jimmy Carter

August 4th, 2010
8:42 am

USinUK
August 4th, 2010
8:39 am

That was the easy one. Try answering my initial question about the body counts of Hitler, Stalin, Pol pot and Mao before belittling Christians.

For that matter, I believfe 2996 people lost their lives on 9/11 to member of the “religion of peace”. What’s that “Christians are responsible for the deaths” body count again?

Normal

August 4th, 2010
8:42 am

Dave R.,
From below…

Normal

August 4th, 2010
8:31 am
DaveR,
Two of the four are on insulin and need special diets (read big bucks),
one of the four has kidney problems and needs a separate diet(read bigger bucks), and the other(Stewart) just likes to eat. He doesn’t need special attention so he’s always trying to eat the others food so he won’t miss anything. One of our smaller cats has a bowel disorder and needs a special diet too (yeah, more and bigger bucks). Just Stewart and Taz, our basement cat, use regular food…

Keep ‘em fat, sez I, They be emergency rations, if necessary…

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

August 4th, 2010
8:42 am

Well, I see this beer truck driver up in Conn. went in and got fired and shot about 9 people and killed hisself. And I bet he never even had a Liscence to Carry. Anyway, it all goes to show you got to be careful around beer truck drivers.

I wouldn’t mind if they built a Holiness Church or a Baptist Church in that place in NYC. At least they would have some claim to being Right With The Lord. But letting a bunch of Towelheads build a mosque? What’s wrong with the Mayor up there? This is what you get when you allow libruls to take over a city. Letting a bunch of heathens build a place to devil-worship? Give me a break! I’m just glad Scout ain’t alive to read about this. Well, I mean, I reckon he’s still alive up there in Johns Creek, but the spirit has left the building, if you know what I mean.

Have a good day everybody.

stands for decibels

August 4th, 2010
8:44 am

Peaceful republicans pls refudiate Newt.

Normal

August 4th, 2010
8:45 am

This says it better than I ha ve ever heard before…

“The attack was an act of war, and our first responders defended not only our city, but our country and our constitution. We do not honor their lives by denying the very constitutional rights they died protecting. We honor their lives by defending those rights and the freedoms that the terrorists attacked.

This bears repeating…

We honor their lives by defending those rights and the freedoms that the terrorists attacked.

Do you get it yet, Newt?

Jimmy Carter

August 4th, 2010
8:45 am

USinUK
August 4th, 2010
8:40 am

Not all, but most muslim men feel you are inferior to them (I know you’re a woman but I don’t share that sentiment) and they could beat the hell out of you if you were their wife without fear of repercussion from the islamic leaders.

USinUK

August 4th, 2010
8:45 am

not jimmeh – “Hitler, Stalin, Pol pot and Mao before belittling Christians”

you realize that hitler was raised catholic, don’t you?

otherwise, we’re talking about people killing in the name of their religion – none of the above did that.

larry

August 4th, 2010
8:46 am

People from 63 different countries , if my memory serves me correct, died on 9/11. People of different religions, origins. Some were gay , some were straight. Some were married, some were single.

USinUK

August 4th, 2010
8:47 am

not jimmeh – “but most muslim men feel you are inferior to them (I know you’re a woman but I don’t share that sentiment) and they could beat the hell out of you if you were their wife without fear of repercussion from the islamic leaders.”

wow. and you get that from your vast acquaintence with muslems?

criminey, there are some christians that believe a woman should submit herself to her husband – you don’t see anyone citing them as examples of ALL christians.

Donovan

August 4th, 2010
8:47 am

You can put any color of lipstick on this pig, but Bloomberg and Bookman are American sell-outs regarding the wants of the American people. Forget about the profound speeches and back drop venues. A victory for America?… Hardly! Islam and it’s radical agenda is the bane of our existence. Wake up people. We are in the fight of our lives.

stands for decibels

August 4th, 2010
8:47 am

That was the easy one. Try answering my initial question about the body counts of Hitler, Stalin, Pol pot and Mao before belittling Christians.

1) Hitler was as “Christian” as bin Laden is “Muslim.”

2) you want to talk body counts, better include FDR/Churchill, Truman, LBJ, Bush I, Bush II…

USinUK

August 4th, 2010
8:49 am

Normal – “Do you get it yet, Newt?”

probably not.

actually, the sad thing is that he probably DOES, but chooses the lowest-common-denominator level of politics by appealing to people’s base emotions rather than their higher principles.

USinUK

August 4th, 2010
8:50 am

“Wake up people. We are in the fight of our lives”

muslims. the new communist.

Doggone/GA

August 4th, 2010
8:52 am

“muslims. the new communist

There MUST BE FEAR – haven’t you noticed? 8-O

Jimmy Carter

August 4th, 2010
8:53 am

stands for decibels

August 4th, 2010
8:47 am

Either you’re kidding or you have no grasp of history. Do you disdain Christianity that much? “FDR/Churchill, Truman, LBJ, Bush I, Bush II…”. How bout adding JFK, LBJ, Clinton and Obama as well. Hell, for that matter, include ALL former presidents and tally their body counts. You’d stil falll juuuuuuust a little short (by maybe a mere 100+ milliion or so) of just Hitler, Mao and Stalin.

Jimmy Carter

August 4th, 2010
8:54 am

USinUK

August 4th, 2010
8:50 am

Obamatrons – the new socialists.

USinUK

August 4th, 2010
8:54 am

Doggone – yeah .. it’s been an evolution – after the fall of the USSR, we had nothing for much of the 1990s, which is why you saw the US turning on each other (hellooooo militias, McVeigh, etc) … then, we had 9/11, so had something tangible to hate/fear … unfortunately, now, we’re stuck with a combo of the two of them

USinUK

August 4th, 2010
8:55 am

“socialist” … the new “pinko”

:roll:

Normal

August 4th, 2010
8:57 am

Donovan,
If you need any help building that bomb shelter, I can get you a deal on shovels and cinder blocks and I’m sure you can get Peadawg and Scout to help.

Hey that’s an idea, it could be your community and and religious center bomb shelter. Scout could be the preacher.

There you go, annother “liberal” solves the problems of a conservative.

All you have to REALLY do is think outside the bomb shelter…er, box…

stands for decibels

August 4th, 2010
8:58 am

How bout adding JFK, LBJ, Clinton and Obama as well. Hell, for that matter, include ALL former presidents and tally their body counts.

Fine by me. (I included LBJ, but obviously Nixon slaughtered plenty in his “peace with honor” tap-dance as well)

a little short (by maybe a mere 100+ milliion or so) of just Hitler, Mao and Stalin.

again, Hitler was Christian.

Granny Godzilla

August 4th, 2010
8:58 am

Pinko the new “red”

USinUK

August 4th, 2010
8:59 am

Granny – I always liked “pinko” … it’s so much hipper than “commie”

Dave R.

August 4th, 2010
8:59 am

Normal, your 8:42?

:D

stands for decibels

August 4th, 2010
8:59 am

Anyway, muslims aren’t the new communist, they’re the new n!gg3r.

Have fun with the stupids, kids. Be back later.

Doggone/GA

August 4th, 2010
9:00 am

“unfortunately, now, we’re stuck with a combo of the two of them”

Yes, all too unfortunately. Though I do find it a bit amusing that our most rabid “the Bible is the unerring word of God” faction seem to have so much trouble obeying THIS:
2 Timothy 1:7
For God has not given us a spirit of fear and timidity, but of power, love, and self-discipline.

jt

August 4th, 2010
9:03 am

Bloomberg “reminding” us about America’s greatness is too rich.

As he monitors our diet. He taxes everything that HE disagrees with. (trans-fat, salt, tobacco, etc…).
It is America for sure, but it ain’t great. Pathetic yes, not great.

But anyhow, the true American way to combat this is NOT to use the police power of government to prohibit the mosque. The true American way is to open a Hooters directly across the street, complete with an outdoor kiosk selling ham sandwiches. Call their bluff.

Chances are, Bloomberg wouldn’t allow it and the Bookmans of the world would decry the lack of sensitivity.

I will donate just to prove a point.

Don’t let the federalies divide us. We are smarter than progressives and government workers.

RB from Gwinnett

August 4th, 2010
9:03 am

“@@, that’s not Newt’s idea. The imam in question proposed PRECISELY that several years ago for the Ground Zero site.”

So, Jay, I guess you would support the ML King center offering up some of it’s space for a confederate heritage museum? They sure need the additional income it might bring and would be a wonderful expression of reaching out to thier enemies. I’m sure that confederate flag hanging across the room won’t bring any bad memories.

So, Jay, do we have your support?

ty webb

August 4th, 2010
9:05 am

fear? really? okay………CO2…Boo!

Balance Our Budget

August 4th, 2010
9:05 am

OFF TOPIC
Nearly 73 percent of voters approved Proposition C, a ballot initiative that says Missouri residents do not have to purchase health insurance or pay an annual fine to the federal government, as the new law states.
Looks like the democrats picked a losing issue.Let every state vote.

TaxPayer

August 4th, 2010
9:07 am

Wow! These Republicans/Conservatives/Independents/Tea Partiers/Whatevers! Why don’t you guys start having daily ritual constitution burnings. That seems to be right up your alley.

Finn McCool

August 4th, 2010
9:08 am

This is the “turn the other cheek” victory from your bible classes but your anger and fear of other religions doesn’t allow you to see this simple yet powerful statement

kayaker 71

August 4th, 2010
9:09 am

Tucker ran this by us yesterday and we seem to be coming up with the same answers to the same stupid questions. Bloomberg, Bookman, Tucker and all of you do gooders who would have the Muslims raising their middle finger to the people of NYC on a daily basis. Newt is right. They are taking advantage of our Constitution to spread their message of hate and in the end, will probably win the day. Love your enemies….. turn the other cheek. But with these vermin, it doesn’t work that way. They are mocking us and we don’t have the kahunas to stop them. We better wake up. It’ll be too late before long.

Peadawg

August 4th, 2010
9:09 am

Sure TaxPayer…we’ll use you to start it.

Balance Our Budget

August 4th, 2010
9:12 am

Where were the libs that are so concerned about the constitutional rights of the mosque builders when congress was telling us we have to buy health insurance or be fined?What about our constitutional rights?

USinUK

August 4th, 2010
9:13 am

“Love your enemies….. turn the other cheek. But with these vermin, it doesn’t work that way”

from what I remember of catechism classes, Jesus didn’t say “unless it doesn’t work with (insert group here)”

TaxPayer

August 4th, 2010
9:13 am

Peadawg,

Sure you are, blowhard.

Finn McCool

August 4th, 2010
9:13 am

Yes, RB, that would be a victory for the MLK Center and black Americans. It would say, “that’s ok, your ancestors did bad things to us but look – we aren’t hiding, we aren’t running away, we are here and stronger than ever and you still lose ground every day!”

USinUK

August 4th, 2010
9:14 am

apropos to … well … nothing … I’m watching one heckuva rain storm approaching … dark clouds … I love a good storm.

popeye

August 4th, 2010
9:14 am

It’s kinda funny reading all the negativity about this project from denizens of Atlanta.

Scott Stringer who is the Manhattanites Burrough President, and including the board who represent the area the area have no problems with the mosque being built in that area. So why should you?

http://www.mbpo.org/release_details.asp?id=1587

Balance Our Budget

August 4th, 2010
9:14 am

RB from Gwinnett
Great point at 9:03.Lets here them answer that one.

Del

August 4th, 2010
9:15 am

Bloomberg “reminds” a nation. The only thing Bloomberg reminds the nation is that he’s just another cheap grandstanding politician. The issue isn’t about a constitutional right for the Mosque to be built in the vicinity of ground zero, it’s about this Muslim groups motive and the message it sends to this nation and in particular those who lost loved ones to Islamic terrorists. They could have picked another location and not stirred up this bad will. It appears they very well may have intended this to “in the face’ of America. So we have Bloomberg and those other fools standing outside celebrating. Bloomberg reminding a nation…please.

Jimmy Carter

August 4th, 2010
9:15 am

USinUK
August 4th, 2010
8:45 am

My grandmother was raised in a barn. Sad, but true. That didn’t make her a cow. Some kids are raised on Army bases but are not soldiers as adults, and some people are raised in other countries but aren’t citizens of said country. Your point?

Jimmy Carter

August 4th, 2010
9:16 am

popeye

August 4th, 2010
9:14 am

Yours has to be the dumbest post of the day so far. Why should Atlantans care? Was it okay with you that we cared on 9/11? Is it okay that we care when thousands are killed in earthquakes in South America? Geez.

TaxPayer

August 4th, 2010
9:17 am

And some people highjack names of presidents but they’re not presidential material.