ADL abandons its principles, surrenders its cause
The Anti-Defamation League calls itself “the nation’s premier civil rights/human relations agency,” proclaiming in its mission statement that “its ultimate purpose is to secure justice and fair treatment to all citizens alike and to put an end forever to unjust and unfair discrimination against and ridicule of any sect or body of citizens.”
A group deserving of such a description could never have put out a statement like this:
We regard freedom of religion as a cornerstone of the American democracy, and that freedom must include the right of all Americans – Christian, Jewish, Muslim, and other faiths – to build community centers and houses of worship.
We categorically reject appeals to bigotry on the basis of religion, and condemn those whose opposition to this proposed Islamic Center is a manifestation of such bigotry.
However, there are understandably strong passions and keen sensitivities surrounding the World Trade Center site. We are ever mindful of the tragedy which befell our nation there, the pain we all still feel – and especially the anguish of the families and friends of those who were killed on September 11, 2001.
The controversy which has emerged regarding the building of an Islamic Center at this location is counterproductive to the healing process. Therefore, under these unique circumstances, we believe the City of New York would be better served if an alternative location could be found.
In recommending that a different location be found for the Islamic Center, we are mindful that some legitimate questions have been raised about who is providing the funding to build it, and what connections, if any, its leaders might have with groups whose ideologies stand in contradiction to our shared values. These questions deserve a response, and we hope those backing the project will be transparent and forthcoming. But regardless of how they respond, the issue at stake is a broader one.
Proponents of the Islamic Center may have every right to build at this site, and may even have chosen the site to send a positive message about Islam. The bigotry some have expressed in attacking them is unfair, and wrong. But ultimately this is not a question of rights, but a question of what is right. In our judgment, building an Islamic Center in the shadow of the World Trade Center will cause some victims more pain – unnecessarily – and that is not right.
Such a statement contradicts everything the ADL has claimed to defend, as those who drafted it know all too well. In one sentence they explain and defend their principles; in the next, they abandon those principles. They condemn bigotry, then surrender to it. It’s a deeply disappointing display of moral cowardice, a surrender to the very forces in human nature that the ADL exists to combat.
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Doggone/GA
August 1st, 2010
6:11 pm
“so, while I considered myself a believer, I really didn’t understand why and therefore didn’t really practice what I professed to believe in.”
I went through something similar. I am now at the point where I try (maybe not hard enough) to stay out of the “bible is the unerring word of God” discussions…because it doesn’t matter to me. One day, literally one day, I asked myself: “What if it wasn’t true?” What if the Bible is NOT the unerring word of God. What if Jesus WASN’T resurrected? Would it change my attitude towards his teachings? And I realized it wouldn’t make any difference, I would still believe in his message…so what’s the point of arguing about it?
Del
August 1st, 2010
6:13 pm
AmVet@6;09
Damn, josef is right when he calls you a carmmudgen. Shxt I know I didn’t spell it right but it’s late in the day.
Doggone/GA
August 1st, 2010
6:14 pm
AmVet – nice call, but no that’s not it. It has to do with being “gone on dogs” Dogs have been my hobby for over 20 years now. I currently have 7. I’ve had as many as 10 at one time.
Del
August 1st, 2010
6:15 pm
Doggone,
Amen and God bless
theyeshaveit
August 1st, 2010
6:15 pm
Jackie,
I just finished the article that you linked to titled “Five Myths”. Thank you.
AmVet
August 1st, 2010
6:18 pm
Del, too funny!
Especially as in my “real” life, I’m anything but.
(I guess I get it out of my system here!)
And you ain’t no piece of pie yoself, sometimes!
SPQR, now there’s a proud hater! His unabashed bashing makes me laugh! And I think he has emboldened more than one to “come out of the closet”!
Doggone/GA
August 1st, 2010
6:18 pm
Del – Thanks you, and the same to you.
Scout
August 1st, 2010
6:20 pm
Doggone/GA:
“Why do so many Christians wear their faith as a badge of honor?”
or
Why is he wearing his Christianity on his sleve?
Short Answer:
“Let you light shine before men that they may see your good works and glorify your Father Who is in Heaven.”
theyeshaveit
August 1st, 2010
6:20 pm
Priceless,
I first became aware of the church that is calling for the burning of the Koran earlier this week. I saw the interview with the good pastor on CNN. How twisted can one be to allow hate to corrupt one’s faith?
Del
August 1st, 2010
6:20 pm
Anyone who loves dogs is all okay in my book. Many German Shep’s and currently a Boston Terrier that isn’t the least bit trained but none the less loving and entertaining.
Scout
August 1st, 2010
6:20 pm
Excuse me ………. “your”
Scout
August 1st, 2010
6:21 pm
theyeshaveit :
To the greatest religious rulers of the day ……….
“Vipers, white washed tombs, you are of your father the devil”
Doggone/GA
August 1st, 2010
6:22 pm
Scout – you DO realize, don’t you, that letting your LIGHT shine before men is NOT the same thing as “wearing your religion on your sleeve”? To ME your quote is more in line with “don’t TELL me you are a Christian…SHOW ME”
Normal
August 1st, 2010
6:23 pm
Hey y’all,
I’m back from meditatin’ and medicatin’…nothing like mushroom soup for the soul…heh,heh,heh…
Scout
August 1st, 2010
1:06 pm
Back in the ’20’s we had plans to fight naval wars with the Brits and the French. Plan Red and Plan gold, I believe. So the Pentagon’s plan to fight Iran, is just another paper plan of fantasy. It won’t happen.
Gettin ready to put a Porterhouse on the barbie…I have the munchies.
Roasted corn on the cob, baked potato and a loaf of french bread, red wine and my honey…a fine ending to a fine day…
Scout
August 1st, 2010
6:23 pm
Doggone/GA:
Or how about this “new” passage in the N.T. I just found. Look for it ……………..
“And Jesus said, I must ascend to the Father now but whatever you do, don’t tell anyone about Me and PLEASE do not go into other parts of the world trying to spread the Gospel of eternal life. Just keep it SECRET. Don’t wear your Chrisitanity on your sleve or you might OFFEND someone. If others don’t know the truth of My word ……. just leave them in DARKNESS. The Devil likes that. YOU have eternal life ……. WHY share it with anyone else?”
Scout
August 1st, 2010
6:24 pm
Doggon/GA @ 6:22
“Go into all the world and PREACH the Gospel to every person …………… “
Scout
August 1st, 2010
6:25 pm
Normal:
I know …….. I was just jerking liberal chains about Obama being the great warmonger and all.
theyeshaveit
August 1st, 2010
6:25 pm
Del,
Here is a dog and cat story for you. One year, my wife and I were planning a trip to Cancun, so we had to take our believed Tabby cat to a vet that room and board facilities. I placed Tabby’s carrier down on the floor in front of the check-in counter. Shortly after that, a police officer came in with his injured (or ill) German Shepherd. Wary of the dog’s proximity to our Tabby, I asked, “does your dog like cats?” Said the officer in response, “In the worst way.” I moved Tabby’s carrier to the other side of the room.
Doggone/GA
August 1st, 2010
6:27 pm
Del – I’ve had Beagles, German Shepherds, Dalmatians, Belgian Tervuren, a Welsh Springer Spaniel, mutts…but my current and long-time love is Whippets.
josef nix
August 1st, 2010
6:27 pm
Whew…
Y’all talkin ’bout me when I’m not here…I guess I ought to be flattered since it wasn’t that bad…I must not be doing something right! Back to school tomorrow, so I won’t have much time to play, but I REALLY have enjoyed my time with y’all..
Just got through with my little Russkaya and she was on top of it today…asking the right questions and looking in the right places for answers…I’m happy…
wet wiccan
If you’re still about…the ragpickers? I can’t right now remember who it was that said it, but a German anti-Semite had gone off on a tirade that the Jews were responsible for all ills known to mankind and the responder says, “No doubt. The Jews and the ragpickers.” The anti-Semite says, “why the ragpickers?” The responder says, “why the Jews?” It was always one of Granddaddy’s catch phrases any time a whole group of people was being villified and I kinda like it, too.
theyeshaveit
August 1st, 2010
6:27 pm
Doggone,
To me that is the real problem. Too many Christians talk the talk, but they sure don’t walk the walk.
Doggone/GA
August 1st, 2010
6:28 pm
“PREACH the Gospel ”
and turn off lots of people, and drive them away from the faith. People who preach, but do not DO, do far, far more harm than they could ever believe.
theyeshaveit
August 1st, 2010
6:29 pm
Normal,
You into Psilocybin mushrooms?
Doggone/GA
August 1st, 2010
6:31 pm
theyeshaveit – great story! I like cats too, but I haven’t had one for quite a while, because Whippets – being sighthounds – are hard wired to chase small furry animals that run away. That plus I had one that was a first class hunter and cat killer, so I never saw any point in getting one for him to catch. AND for a long time I did a lot of traveling with my dogs and most cats don’t like driving, and I didn’t want anything alive still in my house when I left. I even got rid of my house plants. But my last cat did live to be 18 1/2!
Bruno
August 1st, 2010
6:32 pm
“can’t demonize Jews anymore”
Well, I think we’re all in agreement here that josef is a no-good so-and-so.
theyeshaveit
August 1st, 2010
6:33 pm
josef,
You have a little Russkaya? хорошо.
Doggone/GA
August 1st, 2010
6:33 pm
“To me that is the real problem. Too many Christians talk the talk, but they sure don’t walk the walk”
Yes, I have a problem with that too…but I ESPECIALLY have a problem with those “Christians” who can point out all the faults in others…but never see their own faults. That old “plank and splinter” thing.
Normal
August 1st, 2010
6:35 pm
theyeshaveit
August 1st, 2010
6:29 pm
Eyes, I can’t answer that, the butterflies won’t let me…Oh, look…another one!
Now in the other news…
We did it. We beat FOX!
You stood up, they backed down.
Because of your pressure, the White House Correspondents Association denied FOX the coveted front row center seat in the White House press briefing room recently vacated by Helen Thomas.
Dear Friend,
On Wednesday we asked: Should the White House Correspondents Association let FOX News have the best seat in the White House press briefing room and the legitimacy that it confers?
Your answer was a resounding “Hell no!”
In just four days, over 311,000 CREDO Action members and 180,000 MoveOn members — over 491,000 people — petitioned the board of the White House Correspondents Association and asked them not to give the best seat in the White House press briefing room to the rightwing noise machine’s key propaganda outlet.
Just hours ago the board of the White House Correspondents Association met and decided not to give the seat to FOX.
There was clearly strong internal bias towards giving the seat to FOX. CNN reporter and WHCA board member Ed Henry publicly pledged to cast his vote for FOX before our campaign launched. And after we delivered the first 150,000 petition signatures, board member Julie Mason complained to an insider DC blog that “the reporters, producers and photographers from Fox News assigned to the White House are some of the best and well respected in the business” and furthermore accused us of “smearing” her “colleagues.”1
While we’re disappointed that the seat did not go to NPR, we’re delighted the board found a way to avoid giving the coveted front row center seat to FOX. No doubt our pressure made a huge difference.
We need the country’s most influential reporters to put journalistic principles before any kind of loyalty they feel to fellow members of the elite club which is the White House press corps.
Your participation in this campaign helped expose that choice. Every member of the WHCA board received updates every day on the growing numbers who were joining our campaign. When they cast their votes today, they were well aware of how it would be perceived by the public — and by the nearly half million people who spoke out during our campaign — if they chose to legitimate FOX.
That’s exactly why we work to bring your voices and your pressure to bear on the decision makers at key moments. And today that outside pressure helped change the terms of the debate, and forced the White House Correspondents Association to confront the real issue: FOX News is a right-wing propaganda outlet not a legitimate news agency.
We don’t win if we don’t fight. You fought back and we won. By signing the petition, sharing the campaign on Facebook and email, and organizing your friends and family to join the fight, you made a difference. Thank you for making this campaign a success.
We realize this is a symbolic victory over who occupies a chair, but symbols matter. Fox plays to win — so must we. This is just one among many battles to lessen the massive power of Fox. We will celebrate briefly and then ask you to join together to fight again.
Becky Bond, Political Director
CREDO Action
Disgusted
August 1st, 2010
6:37 pm
Dave R., I’m am sorry to have been rude to you. However, you are a pompous, inconsistent a$$, so I’m not that sorry. I will devote the rest of my life to pondering how any semi-intelligent electorate could have voted for you in your previous life. But I guess after the primary win of Greene in SC, I shouldn’t need to ponder much.
Hillbilly Deluxe
August 1st, 2010
6:38 pm
AmVet
Did you know that Ron Blomberg went to Druid Hills High School? If I’m not mistaken, Ray Stevens went there some, too.
theyeshaveit
August 1st, 2010
6:39 pm
Doggone,
Our Tabby was one very smart cat. I used to have a screen saver that featured a virtual aquarium. Tabby loved to stare for hours at the fish swimming by. One day, it occurred to him that the fish all swam from right to left and seemed go around the monitor and then come back again. So, of course, Tabby started looking behind my monitor to see what the fish were doing on the other side. It did not work out like Tabby expected, but I cannot fault his logic.
josef nix
August 1st, 2010
6:40 pm
eyes
She’s one of my private students…we met the parents back when they first came to the US as refugees back in the early ’90s…they’ve done quite well and little bit was, well, turning into an East Cobb you know…the parents wanted me “to straighten her out” by putting her to work above and beyond the “limited expectations” of her private school and teach her the responsibility that goes with being priviledged…
Doggone/GA
August 1st, 2010
6:41 pm
theyeshaveit – that’s a good one too! I do get really annoyed at people – even animal “experts” who try to claim that animals like dogs and cats don’t think. Of course they do! Their reasoning ability may be well below the abilities of normal people, but they most certainly CAN think and reason.
Scout
August 1st, 2010
6:44 pm
Doggone/GA:
One need to do BOTH which is what the Lord commanded ………….
“Faith without works is dead”
“Shoe me your faith without works and I will show you my faith by my works”
Bruno
August 1st, 2010
6:46 pm
Since the blog band’s all here, a dedication to josef, Hillbilly Deluxe, AmVet, and Bruno:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBDF04fQKtQ
Just for today, I’m going to include Doggone, Dave R, eyes, and Normal in the band
AmVet
August 1st, 2010
6:47 pm
I did not, HD! Wow. A Romanian Jew. And career batting average of .293.
How cool that you knew of him.
I chose thank Yankee because of his distink-tion for being the first designated hitter in Major League Baseball history. And of course, the well known Louisiana Lightning was, at times, unfrigginhittable.
josef nix
August 1st, 2010
6:48 pm
Doggone
As you know, we’re animal nuts in this house. I maintain that they not only think, they think BETTER than us…we’ve got a squirrel outside who has learned how to unscrew the top of the bird-seed jug! If I had not seen it, I’d never believe it…
Scout
August 1st, 2010
6:50 pm
Doggone/GA:
So, since you are so critical yourself of other Christians (you know the plank and splinter thing) which do you do?
Spread the Good News of eternal life?
Good works?
or Both ?
Doggone/GA
August 1st, 2010
6:51 pm
Scout – you’re doing a good job of proving my opinion. Keep up the good work.
theyeshaveit
August 1st, 2010
6:51 pm
Scout,
I suspect that both you and I know and have known many fine Christians, but characters like Terry Jones undermine the integrity of Christianity and so called Christian mores. This guy wrote a book titled “Islam is of the Devil,” and his church sells coffee mugs and shirts featuring the phrase. That is simply disgusting.
Please give this guy a listen.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/07/29/florida.burn.quran.day/?hpt=C2
Doggone/GA
August 1st, 2010
6:52 pm
“I maintain that they not only think, they think BETTER than us”
I can’t necessarily agree with that, because they think differently from us. Somewhere, sometime, I saw a comment by someone (vague memory, don’t you know?) about people who supposedly could change into animals. The comment was to the effect that if it could happen, that they sensory input would be so foreign to the human brain that it would drive the person insane!
Bruno
August 1st, 2010
6:53 pm
“She’s one of my private students…”
If I can’t find a job in my field in the next few months, josef, I’m seriously thinking about becoming a math teacher. Just what time is it that you have to get up in the morning???
“I do get really annoyed at people – even animal “experts” who try to claim that animals like dogs and cats don’t think.”
My little mini-rex bunny knows just how to pull my strings, Doggone. She responds to many, many verbal commands, though at other times I can see her straining to figure out what in the heck I’m talking about.
Doggone/GA
August 1st, 2010
6:53 pm
“which do you do?”
What I DON’T DO is brag about either one that I do.
theyeshaveit
August 1st, 2010
6:53 pm
Bruno,
Are you telling me that I am part of a “Fab Four”?
josef nix
August 1st, 2010
6:54 pm
BRUNO
“Well, I think we’re all in agreement here that josef is a no-good so-and-so.”
Don’t blame me on the Jews!
Doggone/GA
August 1st, 2010
6:56 pm
“My little mini-rex bunny knows just how to pull my strings, Doggone”
Certainly, because that is a survival instinct. Baby animals have to be GOOD at “pulling their parent’s string” so the parents will continue to feed them Most animals used, in one way or another, by mankind are “neotenized” – which means they retain a good deal of the looks and behaviors of young animals, so they are VERY good at manipulating their people!
theyeshaveit
August 1st, 2010
6:58 pm
Enough about your dogs, bunnies and squirrels. Our Tabby Chan was bi-lingual. He could understand both English and Japanese. All my wife had to do is say ごはん (gohan) and he was at the food bowl.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
August 1st, 2010
6:58 pm
Well, I think we’re all in agreement here that josef is a no-good so-and-so.
I always knowed it. It took you all a long time to agree with me.
Have a good Sabbath night everybody. Tomorrow we got to get up and set to work on screwing everybody out of their money. But it was nice to live the life of the Righteous for one day of the week.
BADA BING
August 1st, 2010
6:59 pm
Normal… eat the mushrooms in your yard. They will 1..be delicious…2.. make you high…3.. kill you. But 2 out of 3 ain’t bad !!
Hillbilly Deluxe
August 1st, 2010
7:01 pm
AmVet
At the time, Blomberg was probably the best high school baseball player in Georgia. Wasn’t he a first round draft pick? And Guidry was a joy to watch. I’m really enjoying the pendulum swing back towards pitching this year.
Animal IQ
I swear my Grandpa’s mule knew what day of the week it was, during plowing season. When you stepped out on the porch in the morning, if it was a rainy day, the mule would be at the barn. If it was a sunny day, it would be out and gone, so you’d have to go find it. The exception to this was Sunday; the mule was always at the barn on Sunday morning.
AmVet
August 1st, 2010
7:02 pm
How fine, B.
That song has so many good memories for me.
“Don’t blame me on the Jews!” Yeah man, you’ve got so many “issues” there are plenty to pick from!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_XG_YlTPPQ
josef nix
August 1st, 2010
7:03 pm
Doggone
I do often wonder about what’s going on in their minds. As you know, Unmentionable is not much on the “special spiritualism” of the Pesky Savage, but to watch him and the animals with one another is truly amazing…there’s a communication there that, well, speaks to something I don’t understand at all. Ask him, and he says, “we speak the same language.”
eyes
Depends on where you live and where you work…me? I can get up at 7:15, shave, shower, shampoo, get dressed, grab a cuppa, and be to work at 7:30…quite a change from when we were in Rome and it was 4:30 a.m. !
Is it worth it? You betcha!
theyeshaveit
August 1st, 2010
7:03 pm
Bada Bing,
This is for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj3Q9l9Ivng
Bruno
August 1st, 2010
7:04 pm
“Are you telling me that I am part of a “Fab Four”?”
Just for today, eyes, so don’t push it. Of course, josef is in a “fab” category all by himself!
Doggone/GA
August 1st, 2010
7:04 pm
“He could understand both English and Japanese”
Have you ever read Mark Twain about his travels in Europe? He said that French children were obviously smarter than American children…they could speak FRENCH, and American children couldn’t!
theyeshaveit
August 1st, 2010
7:07 pm
Doggone,
lol.
josef,
I think your post to me was intended for Bruno I have already been a teacher.
Doggone/GA
August 1st, 2010
7:07 pm
josef – yep, some people do have that ability. I can do it sometimes, but not with all animals. I’m better with dogs than with cats, better with cats than with horses, and better with horses than with other barnyard animals. Not quite as good with wild animals that aren’t dogs, cats or horses!
popeye
August 1st, 2010
7:09 pm
Hillbilly Deluxe .. You didn’t let that paragon of virtue Neal Horsley anywhere near your ole mule did you?
josef nix
August 1st, 2010
7:09 pm
Bruno
Thanks for the song!
eyes
The bilingual thingie…we have a lot of fun with Mustafa the al Qaida Terrorist Cat…speak Hebrew with him and he hisses…I kid you not! He doesn’t with Arabic…and he’s indifferent to Cherokee when I use it with him, but just purrs away if Unmentionable does it…
theyeshaveit
August 1st, 2010
7:09 pm
popeye,
LOL.
theyeshaveit
August 1st, 2010
7:11 pm
Folks, I have to check out of town. I might be later. またきます。
josef nix
August 1st, 2010
7:15 pm
Eyes
Right… that was for Bruno…
Doggone
“I fail to understand why people get so carried away with this French language. Why when I was in France I saw children three and four years old speaking it fluently.” Twaine
Like I said, I love all animals (with the exception of snakes and spiders!) and I have a special love of cats over dogs…and what? Dogs like me better than the cats do…go figure…
BADA BING
August 1st, 2010
7:16 pm
the eye shave it… sometimes the unknown is better than the known …….
Hillbilly Deluxe
August 1st, 2010
7:17 pm
popeye
I never met Mr. Horsley and had just as soon not, but I suspect that if he said what he is supposed to have said, that he isn’t telling the truth. Most anybody who has ever been near a mule knows that behind one isn’t a very safe place to be. Even on the flank can be dicey at times.
AmVet
August 1st, 2010
7:18 pm
Not to brag, but in some quarters I’m known as Dr. Jewlittle.
josef, you cued it up perfectly…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lYdD9DdLNY
Bruno
August 1st, 2010
7:20 pm
AmVet–None other than ol’ Blue Eyes himself declared “Something” to be the greatest love song ever written. George may not have been as prolific of a songwriter as either McCartney or Lennon, but his songs always rose to the top, IMO.
I’ve been saving this Ringo number for josef for a while:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kf6mgji2Jc
Doggone/GA
August 1st, 2010
7:20 pm
“Dogs like me better than the cats do…go figure…”
That might be because dogs have a stronger inborn desire to attract the attention of people than cats do. Dogs are wired to need cooperation, because they are pack animals…so the work hard to get whatever “pack” is around to have good vibes. They sense your vibes are not good, so they try to change them.
Cats don’t care…and actually, wild wolves don’t care either. They have a VERY hard time accepting a new member to their packs, if that member was not born into the pack. That’s one of the strongest examples of the difference between dogs and wolves, even though, genetically, they are nearly indistinguishable.
Bruno
August 1st, 2010
7:32 pm
“josef, you cued it up perfectly…”
You beat me to the punch on that one, Am. Very nice version with Dolly and Jim. For some reason, that song seems to fit our own HD very well.
RW-(the original)
August 1st, 2010
7:35 pm
Some people around fight some very strange battles, but the declaration of victory in the one Normal is fighting is a pretty hollow victory for the Fox haters.
The White House Correspondents Association voted unanimously Sunday afternoon to move Fox News to the front row of the White House briefing room.
josef nix
August 1st, 2010
7:47 pm
Dr Jewlittle
Good one. Got a friend from south Louisiana tells folks his name is Jouxbois…hunh? Jewboy! Oh, and BTW, just what ISSUES do I have…
popeye
August 1st, 2010
7:54 pm
Save it Hillbilly…I don’t know iif it’s the truth or not, but he said it.
And that’s all I’m saying about that…’Til next time!
josef nix
August 1st, 2010
8:03 pm
BRUNO
@ 7:20
One of my favorites of his! Thanks….
And remember, folks..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW9iELOVBeQ&feature=related
Normal
August 1st, 2010
8:12 pm
How ’bout Ringo’s Nana(?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1REw0QP97I
BADA BING
August 1st, 2010
8:12 pm
Why won’t the ADL defend the building of the mosque? Reminds me of the old chestnut….They were going to cross lawyers with rats, to see what makes lawyers tick. The rats refused, there are some things that even rats won’t do !
josef nix
August 1st, 2010
8:23 pm
Normal–
Are you familiar with the real Belle Starr? An amazing woman, she…before the Wah-uh she was quite the accomplished belle (lower case b) who spoke five languages and was a classical pianist…and then the Mongol Horde came…
SPQR(laissez Faire)
August 1st, 2010
8:26 pm
Attn:
TO HELL with the vile socialist scum, b. hussein obama, his minions, and devotees.
That is all..back to work
Scout
August 1st, 2010
8:26 pm
Doggone/GA:
I’m not asking you to brag. I am simply asking you what is your mission field. There is nothing in scriptures to say that is wrong. There are no “undercover/Secret Agent Christians” .
theyeshavit :
I did not you please give this guy a listen;
Jesus to the relgious leaders of his day …………..
John 8:42 “Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and now am here. I have not come on my own; but he sent me. 43Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? 47He who belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.”
Matthew 23: ”
13″Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.[c]
15″Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are.
16″Woe to you, blind guides! You say, ‘If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but if anyone swears by the gold of the temple, he is bound by his oath.’ 17You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred? 18You also say, ‘If anyone swears by the altar, it means nothing; but if anyone swears by the gift on it, he is bound by his oath.’ 19You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred? 20Therefore, he who swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it. 21And he who swears by the temple swears by it and by the one who dwells in it. 22And he who swears by heaven swears by God’s throne and by the one who sits on it.
23″Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. 24You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.
25″Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. 26Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.
27″Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men’s bones and everything unclean. 28In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.
29″Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous. 30And you say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our forefathers, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ 31So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets. 32Fill up, then, the measure of the sin of your forefathers!
33″You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? 34Therefore I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. 35And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36I tell you the truth, all this will come upon this generation.”
PRETTY HEAVY STUFF ………. HE PULLED NO PUNCHES …….. TODAY AS THEN HE WOULD BE LABELED NARROW MINDED, EXCLUSIVE AND MEAN SPIRITED.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
August 1st, 2010
8:29 pm
Just look at Sen. John Kerry’s recent yacht brouhaha if you don’t believe me. He bought and housed his $7 million yacht in Rhode Island instead of Massachusetts, where he is the senior senator and champion of higher taxes on the rich, avoiding some $437,500 in state sales tax and an annual excise tax of about $70,000.
Howard Metzenbaum, the former Ohio senator and liberal supporter of the death tax, chose to change his official residence to Florida just before he died because Florida does not have an estate tax while Ohio does. Goodness knows what creative devices former House Ways and Means Chairman Charlie Rangel has used to avoid paying taxes.-WSJ
What is “good” for us is not good for them, just sayin…
You a tax cheat, kookman?
Mick
August 1st, 2010
8:35 pm
Fire and brimstone…..yeah we’re gonna get plenty of that when this earth heats up like mercury…
Bruno
August 1st, 2010
8:36 pm
“Oh, and BTW, just what ISSUES do I have… ”
Talk about opening a can of worms…….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfkEljWESYo
Doggone/GA
August 1st, 2010
8:37 pm
“I am simply asking you what is your mission field.”
And I owe you no answer. God knows what I do and don’t do, YOU do not need to know.
Lil' Barry Bailout
August 1st, 2010
8:38 pm
Normal: Putting the same blanket of guilt on all Muslims for 911, is like putting a blanket of guilt on all White Christians for Timothy McVeigh’s bombing in Oklahoma City.
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So the ADL is acting like…Democrats?
Mick
August 1st, 2010
8:39 pm
Amen…sock it to the rich basterds, the higher the taxes the better….why are they so special??? Afterall, they are the ones who can afford it, we’re talking 3 percentage points higher or an extra $3000 per one million – give me a break – chump change for that group..
Lil' Barry Bailout
August 1st, 2010
8:42 pm
Losers wish for higher taxes on other people.
Mick doesn’t pay his “fair share” and is therefore a parasite.
RW-(the original)
August 1st, 2010
8:43 pm
Mick,
I believe you’re missing a zero in that tax bill.
wet wiccan
August 1st, 2010
8:49 pm
Why should we tax rich people?
In the words of Willie Sutton, when asked why he robbed banks, he famously said “That’s where the money is.” …
Mick
August 1st, 2010
8:52 pm
Rw
Yes, you are correct. Still no sympathy from me.
lil DS
Defender of the rich entitled, whose philosophy probably is ” the one who dies with the most toys – wins”.
Bruno
August 1st, 2010
8:53 pm
Scout– “Be filled with the Spirit. Speak to one another with psalms, hymns and spiritual songs. Sing and make music in your heart to the Lord, always giving thanks to God the Father for everything, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.” (Ephesians 5:18b – 20)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG16pfDZ3CM&feature=related
josef nix
August 1st, 2010
8:58 pm
Bruno
Now why would you say that! But, then, I have no solutions…I’m part of the problem!
Anyway, folks…gotta go and get ready for the real world tomorrow…gotta have my diplomatic face on show…take care and hopefully will get at least few minutes to touch base with y’all…thanks again for a great time this summer…
Hillbilly Deluxe
August 1st, 2010
8:58 pm
I like the sparse arrangement on this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSZJSHf7sX8
Nite all.
@@
August 1st, 2010
9:01 pm
Bruno:
What is the ultimate meaning/value of being a Christian?
What…..another test? If only YOU were The Teacher, right?
I’ll leave you with this:
“Mold me, make me, use me…”
Thanks for asking.
SPQR(laissez Faire)
August 1st, 2010
9:16 pm
Democrats Scatter Monday as Obama Comes to Town…
http://www.11alive.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=148382&catid=40
SW, SE, midW Democrats to obama… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNcViNwac0I
BACK OFF…BACK OFF B*TCH B*TCH B*TCH B*TCH B*TCH (Hey wha’d'ya think he’s tryin’ to say there Anyway? I think it’s something each socialist POS is S’posed to take in their own special way.. Fcking b*tch)
Scout
August 1st, 2010
9:16 pm
Doggone/GA:
That’s not what the scriptures say ……….. Christians are to “not forsake the assembling of themselves toghether” and are to offer mutual support, assistance, counseling, teaching, prayer and brotherly love. If you do that you will know what a fellow Christian is doing or not. It’s not being nosey, we are to be more effective that way. There is strength in numbers.
Romans 1
“That is, that I may be comforted together with you by the mutual faith both of you and me.”
Hebrews 10:25
“Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.”
KInd of hard to do that if you are a lone wold Secret Service Christian ……………
@@
August 1st, 2010
9:17 pm
6 cities to train mail carriers to dispense anti-terror drugs
WASHINGTON — The Postal Service is ready to deliver lifesaving drugs to about a quarter of the residents of Minneapolis-St. Paul, the only metropolitan area in the nation where letter carriers have been trained to dispense medication after a large-scale terrorist attack involving biological weapons.
Six years after the government began exploring the idea of using postal workers as rapid-response medicine dispensers and eight months after President Obama ordered government agencies to develop a plan to do so, efforts are underway in six cities to train workers to deliver the drugs needed to counter anthrax or other potentially deadly agents, the White House says.
[snip]
The need to get drugs or other antidotes to people fast is a “unique situation,” Wittenburg says, “and the postal service is really the only organization with the capability to pull it off.”
Well……….I GUESS it’s a plan…
of sorts.
Scout
August 1st, 2010
9:17 pm
Excuse me …………. “lone wolf”
Scout
August 1st, 2010
9:20 pm
Bruno @ 8:53
Excellent ……….. yes, there are not to be any “lone wolf” Christians.
Bruno
August 1st, 2010
9:23 pm
Scout, @@, SPQR and anyone else left on board–Enjoyed the fellowship this weekend. Best wishes to all.
@@
August 1st, 2010
9:26 pm
Scout:
I couldn’t help but laugh when I read your 9:16. We took a class at my church, to help each of us determine wherein our talents lay. Mine….and everyone knew it before me, was exhortation.
Sure ’nuff, with all my selections, it came up that my gift was exhortation. We had to read the results out loud. Everybody said “See…..we told you so!”
I looked at them and said…..”Fine! When I offer my counsel are you gonna resist my advice? When it comes to dealing with adults, I’m short on patience, ‘ya know.”
You, my friend, have the patience of Job.
SPQR(laissez Faire)
August 1st, 2010
9:26 pm
So in a terrorist Biological attack, we are depending on the POST OFFICE? those lazy obese aholes who shuffle thru the day at government speed when you are trying to mail something ? It’s like they have a deliberate super slow motion government worker speed setting. Field carriers may or may not be as horribly lazy and slow as the office workers, but I would venture to guess the office workers come from the carrier ranks.
Scout
August 1st, 2010
9:28 pm
Bruno: You too and God bless !