In NH, Palin’s endorsement a boon in primary, a risk in the general
Kelly Ayotte, former NH attorney general and now candidate for the U.S. Senate
Like Karen Handel here in Georgia, Republican Kelly Ayotte of New Hampshire has been endorsed as a “Mama Grizzly” by Sarah Palin in Ayotte’s campaign for the GOP Senate nomination.
That endorsement is likely to help Ayotte considerably in the primary, according to a new poll by Public Policy Polling. In their survey conducted July 23-25, 48 percent of New Hampshire conservatives said they would be more likely to vote for a candidate endorsed by Palin, while 18 percent said a Palin endorsement would be a turnoff.
Last week, I questioned how much credit Palin should be given for pushing Handel to her first-place finish in the Republican gubernatorial primary here in Georgia (Handel still faces an Aug. 10 runoff with Nathan Deal.) The polling results out of New Hampshire suggest that I might have been mistaken — Palin may indeed have been a difference maker.
However, if you dig a little deeper into the PPP crosstabs, you find that Palin’s endorsement cuts both ways. Overall, 51 percent of NH voters say that a Palin endorsement would make them less likely to vote for a candidate, while just 26 percent say a Palin endorsement would make them more supportive. Among self-described NH moderates, just 14 percent see a Palin endorsement as positive, while 65 percent see it as a problem. And according to PPP, moderates make up 47 percent of the NH electorate.
In April, well before the Palin endorsement, Ayotte’s favorable/unfavorable numbers among NH independents stood at 35/23. By last week, they had fallen to 33/38. Ayotte still has a lead over Democrat Paul Hodes, but according to PPP it has closed from 47-40 in April to 45-42. (As of July 12, Rasmussen put Ayotte up over Hodes by 49-37%.)
PS: Here’s the gender breakdown on the effect of a Palin endorsement question:
…….More likely……Less likely
Men…….30……………..48
Women…22……………..53
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RW-(the original)
July 27th, 2010
3:22 pm
That drop in the Palin related general election support would probably be more than offset if Obama endorses the Democrat.
TaxPayer
July 27th, 2010
3:29 pm
Palin! Wasn’t she that loser that ran against McCain. Or something like that.
Peadawg
July 27th, 2010
3:34 pm
Palin endorsing a candidate would have the same effect as Obama endorsing a candidate…both would plummet.
Jack
July 27th, 2010
3:34 pm
I’d take Palin’s endorsement any time over Bookman’s.
Dave R.
July 27th, 2010
3:34 pm
The problem in Northeast states in general, and N.H. in particular, is that self-described “moderates” up there are not really moderates; they’re just not flaming liberals.
Rck Patel
July 27th, 2010
3:37 pm
Populist Princess Sarah Palin endorses candidates whom she honestly believes will serve the people by implementing common-sense conservative policies in state & federal government. She knows that some of them will win, some will lose, and some will reload & re-enter the fight.
Granny Godzilla
July 27th, 2010
3:38 pm
Fact: Grizzly bear females have something called delayed implantation. After they mate with a male grizzly, the resulting fertilized embryo waits inside the female until the fall. If the mother has enough fat reserves to be able to sustain a pregnancy, the embryo will implant itself in the wall of her uterus. If she doesn’t have enough reserves, the embryo is simply reabsorbed into her system. Because of this delayed implantation, a female grizzly bear can carry more than one cub from more than one father, resulting in cubs from the same litter that don’t look like each other.
ooops….this is not about real grizzly bears but the Demi-Governor.
Pardon me.
jasper
July 27th, 2010
3:41 pm
Is it just me: Harry Reid and Warren Jeffs, seperated at birth.
stands for decibels
July 27th, 2010
3:49 pm
A little bit frustrating that the Public Policy Polling folks specifically asked if Palin’s endorsement mattered, but didn’t ask about Obama’s. Especially since they bothered to ask about Obama’s job performance. Oh well. maybe they will when it’s closer to Nov…
stands for decibels
July 27th, 2010
3:51 pm
…then again, why would they ask about Obama’s endorsement when Hodes isn’t facing a primary challenge?
sorry, I came down with a case of Teh Stoopit up there. never mind.
Instead I’ll just ask–what percentage of Jay’s commenters know what “cross tabs” are in this context?
stands for decibels
July 27th, 2010
3:52 pm
also:
Kelly Ayotte of New Hampshire has been endorsed as a “Mama Grizzly” by Sarah Palin
Has anyone besides Amanda Marcotte thought to point out that actual mama grizzlies don’t care about anyone’s babies but their own?
Southern Comfort
July 27th, 2010
3:52 pm
Looking at those crosstabs, I’d say NH is just as partisan as any other state, no matter how frilly a dress they try to put on it.
Joe
July 27th, 2010
3:58 pm
Palin is entirely a creature of the media. We have former Presidents, Vice Presidents, Presidential candidates, Vice Presidential candidates, and many other current and former dignitaries who have contributed so much more and have so much more yet to contribute. Yet the so-called liberal media covers the former half-term governor of a state with a smaller population than Louisville, Kentucky as if she were the second coming. It’s enough to make you sick.
RW-(the original)
July 27th, 2010
4:00 pm
Geez that Amanda has one foul mouth, but the point being made is pretty foolish so maybe that’s why.
Her constituents would be her young in the political sense.
joe matarotz
July 27th, 2010
4:01 pm
Jay, have they done a similar survey on an Obama endorsement for a candidate, or do you only throw stones at Conservatives/Republicants/people who disagree with you?
Kamchak
July 27th, 2010
4:01 pm
Palin is entirely a creature of the media.
[...]
Yet the so-called liberal media covers the former half-term governor of a state with a smaller population than Louisville, Kentucky as if she were the second coming. It’s enough to make you sick.
It seems as though you have addressed your own concern.
Jay
July 27th, 2010
4:02 pm
Joe M., as I made pretty clear in this morning’s post, Obama would be poison to Roy Barnes here in Georgia.
jt
July 27th, 2010
4:03 pm
Sorry,
but Palin has swallowed the neo-con/democrat war-mongering kool-aid.
The middle-class just ain’t into it anymore. Can’t scare New Hampshirians.
The statists and their lap-dog media will have to get more creative to keep the game up.
Have you heard about the narco-terrorists in Costa Rica?
@@
July 27th, 2010
4:04 pm
From what I’ve read, Handel overcame a lot of obstacles in her life. On her own at 17?
Dreams of a better tomorrow. Nutin’ wrong with that. Don’t know that I’ll vote for Handel, but YOU GO GIRL!
Nowadays I can only dream about what it would’ve been like had America’s first black, first lady been the Democratic Party’s nominee in 2008.
Pogo
July 27th, 2010
4:05 pm
Palin is dumb. Higher taxes are good. GOP is bad. Democrats are good. This is a synopsis of a typical Jay Bookman blog topic as he preaches to little group of shut-ins here.
Journalists like Jay that don’t have a single critical thing to say about the party that they support are pretty much worthless. In fact, a real journalist doesn’t support any party (at least in their work)so I guess Jay couldn’t really be considered a journalist. I think the more appropriate term for Jay is “Political Hack”. Fits him nicely.
Joe
July 27th, 2010
4:08 pm
“In fact, a real journalist doesn’t support any party…”
Not the stupidest comment I’ve ever read, but it’s up there.
Goldie
July 27th, 2010
4:12 pm
Palin The Quitter — great bumper sticker!
stands for decibels
July 27th, 2010
4:13 pm
“In fact, a real journalist doesn’t support any party…”
Not the stupidest comment I’ve ever read, but it’s up there.
I guess Pogo must think Keith Olbermann is the cat’s pajamas, then?
Dave R.
July 27th, 2010
4:13 pm
Obama is entirely a creature of the media.
Joe, fixed your 3:58. No thanks needed.
Scout
July 27th, 2010
4:13 pm
Jay:
Obama is “poison” to this country period. Couldn’t have expressed it better myself.
joe matarotz
July 27th, 2010
4:14 pm
OK, Jay, here’s another topic for you to tastefully dance around. Charles ‘dirtbag’ Rangel is curently meeting behind closed doors with Senate Democrap leaders to cut a deal to settle the ethics charges against him and save his seat in Congress. He also just returned from New York where he was campaigning for reelection. Are ethics violations okay, as long as they are perpetrated by a Democrap? Only Congressional Democraps can say for sure.
Joel
July 27th, 2010
4:15 pm
Hey Pogo – Seethe much?
Jefferson
July 27th, 2010
4:15 pm
Say it with a frown.
stands for decibels
July 27th, 2010
4:16 pm
RW, it’s true, as bloggers go, Amanda can be a bit rough.
I don’t think she ever called a sitting Supreme Court Justice a “goat-[bleeping] child molester”, though.
SOUTHERN ATL
July 27th, 2010
4:16 pm
Granny Godzilla@3:38…that was too funny!
RW-(the original)
July 27th, 2010
4:17 pm
What’s this fascination you libs have with Red State?
stands for decibels
July 27th, 2010
4:18 pm
OK, Jay, here’s another topic for you to tastefully dance around.
Not until he first addresses my demands for a 12-part series on the wisdom of abolishing the US Senate.
popeye
July 27th, 2010
4:18 pm
Very good pogo “Palin is dumb. Higher taxes are good. GOP is bad. Democrats are good”
And here I thought you were always a right wing nut job. Wonders never cease do they?
stands for decibels
July 27th, 2010
4:19 pm
What’s this fascination you libs have with Red State?
Oh, it’s probably sheer jealousy. Us potty-mouthed bloggers toil in obscurity for years and never once get the big call to play in The Show like Erick Son-of-Erick. It’s so unfair!
larry
July 27th, 2010
4:20 pm
Ayotte, Handel and Angle …………if they dont win, they could form their own track team with Palin as much as they run from the press when they ask really tough questions about their positions.
Harry Callahan
July 27th, 2010
4:21 pm
Have the unions spoken up and told all the liberals who to vote for yet?
Lord Help Us
July 27th, 2010
4:21 pm
You’re a dinosaur, Callahan…
popeye
July 27th, 2010
4:22 pm
And what is it with the Lars Larsens, Eric Ericksons, and Hugh Hewitts…..Are these guys so simple they have to refer to their last names to remember their first?
RW-(the original)
July 27th, 2010
4:22 pm
sfb,
Seriously I don’t recall ever seeing a conservative here link to or reference Red State, but you’d almost think Jay B was the guys publicist.
Harry Callahan
July 27th, 2010
4:22 pm
Go ahead, MAKE my day…
stands for decibels
July 27th, 2010
4:24 pm
Palin The Quitter — great bumper sticker!
Unless you’re driving an up-armored Humvee, I would advise against it.
Harry Callahan
July 27th, 2010
4:24 pm
Jay, so an Obama endorsement would be poison to Barnes here in Georgia? Given the recent results in Massachusetts, Virginai, etc, can you tell us who, exactly, might BENEFIT from an Obama endorsement?
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
July 27th, 2010
4:27 pm
Well, I hate to say it, but seems to me Sarah’s endorsement sort of has the same effect as a lady of the evening telling everybody what a fine woman your wife is. That’s what you get when Sarah gets involved in a race in those crazy Northren states.
She needs to stick to the South. Heck, we’ll beleive anything. If Sarah tells us the sun started rising in the west, we’ll cuss all the people out that say otherwise. Besides, colledge graduates and the pointy-heads don’t know everything. Fire them all, is what I say.
Have a good night everybody.
Lord Help Us
July 27th, 2010
4:27 pm
HC, don’t worry…Slick Willie’s gonna sub in on the campaign trail til the poll numbers nudge back up.
Lock up your daughters…
Captain
July 27th, 2010
4:27 pm
I would suggest Handel’s climb up the polls was a result of John Oxendine’s fall. Ox was the solid leader four weeks ago, before Dale Russell at Fox 5 broke a story about Oxendine working on behalf of a Korean businessman for no apparent reason. That was until over $57,000 reasons surfaced. The Oxendine voters crossed over to Handel. That’s reasonable and logical, two words which have never entered the Jay Bookman equation.
If Sarah Palin is as bad for Republicans as Jay Bookman, NBC News, Howard Dean and Keith Olberman insist, then why not encourage her as opposed to slandering the lady?
About Rep Charles Rangle; yes, Pelosi and the Democrats are cutting a deal for Charlie just like the Dems in the Senate did for Chris Dodd. God forbid if either of these men were Republicans, ABC, NBC, CBS, NY Times, Washington Post, Cynthia Tucker and Jay Bookman would be shouting at the top of their lungs for prosecution, jail time, ethics laws. Amazing how quiet they all are when it’s one of their own. How is Nancy Pelosi doing draining the swamp?
stands for decibels
July 27th, 2010
4:28 pm
Seriously I don’t recall ever seeing a conservative here link to or reference Red State
you might be right, Erick might be more of a liberal target than a real influential voice among conservatives. particularly of late–does his hiring by CNN lessen his cred, perchance?
Harry Callahan
July 27th, 2010
4:28 pm
Does anyone know who Barack plans to endorse in the Kenyan primaries?
RW-(the original)
July 27th, 2010
4:29 pm
I know, I know….In Massachusetts it was Scott Brown that benefited and in Virginia it was Bob McDonnell.
Do I get extra credit for pointing out that an Obama endorsement in New Jersey was to the benefit of Chris Christie?
JDW
July 27th, 2010
4:31 pm
Interesting data Jay, I was at least considering her as an option but the Palin bit certainly sealed that deal. I can’t imagine Sarah and I agreeing on many candidates.
As for Deal,just what we don’t need, one of the most corrupt congressmen in Washington as Governor!
Looks like I am stuck with King Roy, but I do take solice in the fact that he can’t be worse than Sonny.
Harry Callahan
July 27th, 2010
4:31 pm
Jay, I saw on the news last night that the record high temperature for July 26 was set back in 1911. Can we please blog some more about the “settled science” of global warming?
RW-(the original)
July 27th, 2010
4:32 pm
does his hiring by CNN lessen his cred, perchance?
Maybe, but I’m going all the way back to the early luckovich days and don’t remember any Red State influence on the conservative posters.
stands for decibels
July 27th, 2010
4:34 pm
don’t remember any Red State influence on the conservative posters.
Noted.
(In Jay’s defense, remember too that Erickson was — and still is? — a regular over at Peach Pundit, which has been on Jay’s blogroll for as long as Jay’s been blogging.)
Harry Callahan
July 27th, 2010
4:36 pm
While campaigning for president, Barack Obama described the economy (then at about 8% unemployment) as “the worst economy since the Great Depression.” Any idea how he would describe it now?
Pogo
July 27th, 2010
4:37 pm
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/jul/26/obamas-regrettable-records/
Interesting reading for those that aren’t too far gone already.
RW-(the original)
July 27th, 2010
4:38 pm
a regular over at Peach Pundit
I’ve never been to Peach Pundit either.
Harry Callahan
July 27th, 2010
4:39 pm
Jay, any word on the Obama justice department dropping charges against jack-booted baton-wielding New Black Panther thugs shouting threats and racial epithets at white voters at a polling place? Is Obama planning to speak to the American people on the topic? When is his next scheduled time for taking questions from the press? Some time after the 2012 elections?
Jay
July 27th, 2010
4:40 pm
Harry, if you still believe that a single heat record on a single day in a single location a century ago tells us anything at all about long-term global climate trends, I’m afraid I couldn’t explain the science to you if you held a ,44 magnum to my head.
JP
July 27th, 2010
4:40 pm
I am not a Palin fan, but think her endorsements do help. And while she may go down in flames, don’t discount her in 2012. Like I said, I don’t agree with mostly anything she says, but I marvel at her ability to set off a craze/frenzy with any tweet or comment.
Lord Help Us
July 27th, 2010
4:42 pm
HC, ‘any word on the BUSH justice department dropping charges against jack-booted baton-wielding New Black Panther thugs shouting threats and racial epithets at white voters at a polling place?’
FYT
Harry Callahan
July 27th, 2010
4:43 pm
Jay, is it still your contention that asking a voter to produce picture ID at a polling place is intimidating, invasive, unreasonable, and a threat to free democratic elections? If so, can you please compare and contrast these unreasonable restrictions with running a gauntlet of jack-booted, baton-wielding, threat-shouting New Black Panthers at a polling place? Any idea why Democrats are concerned enough about the former to file expensive litigation, but not the latter?
Jay
July 27th, 2010
4:44 pm
And Harry, the Obama administration didn’t drop the charges. The decision not to pursue criminal charges against those two nuts was made during the Bush administration, before Obama’s people even took office.
Harry Callahan
July 27th, 2010
4:44 pm
Jay, if you believe that a few hot July days in Georgia proves anything either, then likewise.
stands for decibels
July 27th, 2010
4:45 pm
jack-booted baton-wielding New Black Panther thugs
ohfercryinoutloud.
Lord Help Us
July 27th, 2010
4:46 pm
‘jack-booted baton-wielding New Black Panther thugs ‘
It’s…all…they…have…left…
Harry Callahan
July 27th, 2010
4:47 pm
Lord Help Us, I certainly wasn’t aware that the Obama administration was using the Bush administration as it’s guiding light of precedent for decision making. And I think you better go back and check your facts on that anyways. What I read is that the Bush adminstration filed charges, won a default judgment when the Panthers didn’t show for the hearing, and then the OBAMA administration refused to pursue sentencing based on the default judgment.
Jay
July 27th, 2010
4:47 pm
Harry, you’re firing blanks.
Making noise but having no impact.
Come back with actual ammo sometime.
RW-(the original)
July 27th, 2010
4:48 pm
It’s…all…they…have…left…
That’s pretty funny, LHU, especially coming in the comments of yet another Palin thread.
Jay
July 27th, 2010
4:48 pm
Figuratively speaking, of course.
Lord Help Us
July 27th, 2010
4:48 pm
HC, you ‘read’ wrong…
Harry Callahan
July 27th, 2010
4:49 pm
Lord Help Us and stands for decibels…see my previous post about comparing the New Black Panthers tactics to showing ID, and get back to me.
Harry Callahan
July 27th, 2010
4:50 pm
Jay, I’ll take the liberty of translating your remarks…”No Harry, I cannot refute any of your points.”
Granny Godzilla
July 27th, 2010
4:50 pm
speak up for the ladies of the NBPP
they are jill booted thuggettes.
Lord Help Us
July 27th, 2010
4:51 pm
RW, ‘That’s pretty funny, LHU, especially oming in the comments of yet another Palin thread.’
Then thrill me with what the GOP would have given us with McCain/Palin…
No stimulus, check…status quo healthcare, check…no fin reg, check…taxpayer funded BP cleanup, check…Levi living large in the White House, check…
Granny Godzilla
July 27th, 2010
4:52 pm
and the tiniest of the NBPP
the jack bootie thugs
Granny Godzilla
July 27th, 2010
4:53 pm
and the beach patrol of the NBPP
the jack flip flop thugs
Lord Help Us
July 27th, 2010
4:53 pm
HC, ’see my previous post about comparing the New Black Panthers tactics to showing ID, and get back to me.’
Just as soon as you fess up about the Bush admin’s take on the Black Panther case…
Mick
July 27th, 2010
4:53 pm
I’ve seen this many times that “obama had his academic records sealed”, actually because of a federal law FERPA, there are laws governing access to private academic records. The bottom line is this; No one can access anyone’s personal academic records accept that person, period.
Harry Callahan
July 27th, 2010
4:53 pm
Lord Help Us, I didn’t read wrong. According to noted right-wing news sourse CBS (yes, that was sarcasm) the intimidated poll workers were black, and the Obama DOJ is being investigated…
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20011791-503544.html
stands for decibels
July 27th, 2010
4:54 pm
all right, Callahan, since you keep bringing it up… what does RW’s favorite potty-mouthed blogger have to say?
What’s interesting is that what has been so implicit for so long that a lot of people don’t even perceive it is being made pretty [gosh-darn] explicit recently. Republicans don’t trust that the euphemisms they’ve always used are going to provoke enough racism to get them the majority in 2010. The non-stop hyperventilating over “reverse racism”—which is a myth—is just a way to be racist while acting like some kind of victim. The targeting of black bureaucrats like Van Jones and Shirley Sherrod is about creating a narrative for the base, that Barack Obama tricked the white majority into voting for him out of racial guilt,* and now that he’s President, he’s trashing the country by appointing a bunch of white-hating black people to powerful offices so they can ruin the lives of white people while enriching black people in an overt act of revenge.
The problem is that our news media isn’t getting this, at all. [Greg] Sargent, for instance, is on the side of right on this Black Panthers thing, but even he makes the mistake of using the term “Black Panthers” instead of “New Black Panthers”. This isn’t a minor issue by any stretch, because not making that distinction leaves the audience to believe that the assclowns who were legitimately trying to threaten voters have anything to do with the Black Panthers of old. As Denise Oliver-Velez pointed out during a panel, the real Black Panthers were anti-racist, and would have never deemed it appropriate to try to fight the oppression of black people by trying comically ineffectual strategies to oppress white people. The real Black Panthers still have quite a bit of esteem, so allowing people to believe that this whole voter intimidation scheme had anything to do with the real Black Panthers is to imply that the left really does tolerate this kind of behavior.
—–
*Even though the majority of white people actually voted for McCain.
LeeH1
July 27th, 2010
4:55 pm
Uh, Sarah Palin has endorsed Levi Johnson to marry her daughter.
So much for her judgement and endorsements.
Jay
July 27th, 2010
4:55 pm
You read incorrectly, Harry. Criminal charges were dropped against the party, its leaders and the two idiots at the polls by the Bush administration. Civil charges were pursued instead by Bush Justice, with the goal of getting restraining orders.
When Obama’s people came into the case, they decided they couldn’t pursue civil charges against the party or its leader because there was no evidence of a party effort to intimidate. They had proof of one or two people at one site for one hour before police ran them off, and that wasn’t enough to prove to a judge that the party had launched the effort and could be held responsible. You would need multiple incidents to prove an organized effort existed.
The second man at the polling site was a registered poll watcher who was allowed by police to stay at the site the rest of election day and caused no problems. Pursuing civil charges against him under those circumstances — law enforcement at the scene clearly thought he posed no threat — would be dfficult as well. iSo they pursued — and got — civil charges and a restraining order against the guy with the baton.
One guy, for one hour, at one polling site, and you guys want to act as if it was Nat Turner’s Rebellion. Pathetic. The real Dirty Harry would be ashamed.
Lord Help Us
July 27th, 2010
4:56 pm
HC, since the incident took place in 2008, how was it categorized by the Bush justice dept.?
Granny Godzilla
July 27th, 2010
4:56 pm
apparently the jack loafered thugs of the GOP have called for an investigation……
somebody has accuracy issues
RW-(the original)
July 27th, 2010
4:56 pm
LHU,
McCain would have given you years of Democrat domination in government and probably would have given you all that other garbage as well.
Left wing management
July 27th, 2010
4:56 pm
Yep, no doubt, Don Blankenship is a living, breathing obscenity.
$@%$%^&*
Harry Callahan
July 27th, 2010
4:57 pm
The Washington Posts’s account of the New Black Panther incident is at odds with the liberal (Bush dismissed” version as well…
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/14/AR2010071405880.html
TaxPayer
July 27th, 2010
4:58 pm
Glenn Beck/Sarah Palin 2012. Now There’s the Ticket. Pleez, Pleez, Oh Pleez.
Harry Callahan
July 27th, 2010
4:59 pm
Jay, would you say the left’s attempts to paint the Tea party as racist are based on more, or less, actual substance than the New Black panther incident?
JP
July 27th, 2010
4:59 pm
Here is some info on Christian Adams, the guy who is making the accusations the R’s are building their case around (From Media Matters)
http://mediamatters.org/research/201007070020
John Birch
July 27th, 2010
5:01 pm
Will Handel maintain her strength in those traditionally democratic (read black) areas of Fulton and Dekalb if she runs against Barnes? I would think that’s more of the $64,000 question than the Palin endorsement.
stands for decibels
July 27th, 2010
5:01 pm
McCain would have given you years of Democrat domination in government and probably would have given you all that other garbage as well.
You figure McCain would’ve survived the poisonings and/or prop-plane aerial assaults?
Lord Help Us
July 27th, 2010
5:02 pm
HC, more…
Seriously dude, Clint would be disappointed…
TaxPayer
July 27th, 2010
5:03 pm
Fox News Audience: 1.38% black. Fairly Unbalanced.
Lord Help Us
July 27th, 2010
5:03 pm
RW, ‘McCain would have given you years of Democrat domination in government and probably would have given you all that other garbage as well.’
Then WTF are you compaining about!?!?!?
AmVet
July 27th, 2010
5:04 pm
For ANYONE goofy enough to pick that moniker, “You’ve got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?”
LOL. Trolls do crack me up sometimes.
Harry Callahan
July 27th, 2010
5:04 pm
LHU…I doubt it. Still no response about the relative merits of the case, or Obama attempting to white-wash it (pun intended) but that’s pretty much what I expected.
Lord Help Us
July 27th, 2010
5:06 pm
HC, ‘Still no response about the relative merits of the case, or BUSH attempting to white-wash it (pun intended) but that’s pretty much what I expected.’
FYT…again…
Jay
July 27th, 2010
5:06 pm
Harry, the Post story does nothing of the sort. You need to understand the difference between criminal charges that might result in prosecution and a sentence and a civil lawsuit that merely seeks a restraining order.
The Bush Justice people decided this was far too minor a case to pursue criminally and they decided to go the civil lawsuit route. They filed that civil suit Jan. 7, 2009. All the Obama folks did was narrow that approach to address the guy with the baton, and they got the restraining order they sought.
Again, one black guy with a stick in one polling place for one hour, and you guys want to whine that the feds ain’t protecting you from mean old black men.
Harry Callahan
July 27th, 2010
5:06 pm
AmVet, thanks, your comment added a lot to the discussion. If the skinheads or Klan have baton-wielding people at polling places, would you be cool with a DOJ decision to drop charges? If the New Black Panthers can’t be held responsible for the racist actions of a few, why all the smears on the Tea Party?
RW-(the original)
July 27th, 2010
5:07 pm
LHU,
I don’t think I complained about anything, I simply pointed out the irony of your comment. Are you seeing other things around you that aren’t there or only my imaginary words? If it’s the former you should back away from the keyboard and seek help.
AmVet
July 27th, 2010
5:07 pm
1.38%???!!!
WOO HOO!
More indirect evidence of that globally cooled Big Tent Theory…
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 27th, 2010
5:07 pm
101!
“Massachusetts Congressman Barney Frank caused a scene when he demanded a $1 senior discount on his ferry fare to Fire Island’s popular gay haunt, The Pines, last Friday,” the New York Post’s Page Six reports:
Aahhh, the fairy got hairy when boarding the airy ferry, which I’m willing to bet was quite scary, just sayin….eewwwwwww!
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 27th, 2010
5:07 pm
Gettin closer…..
Wake Up
July 27th, 2010
5:08 pm
Harry Callahan
July 27th, 2010
4:31 pm
Jay, I saw on the news last night that the record high temperature for July 26 was set back in 1911. Can we please blog some more about the “settled science” of global warming?
It is called GLOBAL warming, not Harry Callahan’s local address warming. Why don’t you read/watch a few different news sources. Maybe you would actually hear about the record heat in Europe this summer. A little knowledge goes a long way.
stands for decibels
July 27th, 2010
5:08 pm
Still no response about the relative merits of the case
Their case has no merit. There’s your response.
That seven GOPers on the Judiciary committee seem to think they can scare white people by ginning this up speaks more to the Goopers than the merits of this case. Then again, they don’t have a Town Hall Summer of Hate to exploit this time around, so they’ve gotta think of something. This will have to do.
TaxPayer
July 27th, 2010
5:08 pm
Will the GRTL be able to Handel anything short of 100% unadulterated abstinence from its endorsee. There’s the real Deal breaker for the devoutly conservative following of the Republican faith.
Harry Callahan
July 27th, 2010
5:08 pm
Jay, no whining here. I still have the 2nd amendment. Anybody who pulls a stick on me is in for a .45 caliber surprise. But what about the wretched poor, feeble, and infirm, the ones supposedly disenfranchised by the photo ID law…they can’t reasonably be expected to be protected from thugs? Wow…
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 27th, 2010
5:10 pm
Palin picks a candidate and they win, what doesn’t kookman understand?
It’s always a spin with this guy, just sayin…
AmVet
July 27th, 2010
5:10 pm
Punk (Sorry, it just fits.), I watched that film of those scumbags.
Big deal. Two bigoted lamebrains in one isolated incident. Nobody was hurt, except verbally.
NEWSFLASH! It ain’t the foreshadowing of Satan as predicted in Revelations, OK?
Drama queen, much?
You desperately need new material…
TaxPayer
July 27th, 2010
5:13 pm
I just loves GOP mud wrasslin’.
Jay
July 27th, 2010
5:13 pm
They are protected, Harry. One guy tried it, he got arrested and is under court orders never to try that again.
In 2006 three Minutemen — one armed with a visible sidearm — showed up at a polling place in Pima, AZ, demanding to see photo ID of old Latina women trying to vote there. They didn’t get prosecuted either. Oddly, Fox didn’t get all bent out of shape about that. Neither did you.
Why is that, Harry?
Harry Callahan
July 27th, 2010
5:14 pm
AmVet, there’s not even any film of the supposed racism at Tea Party events. I’m trying to point out the hypocrosy and double standard. I thought you libtards were all about “nuance”? Guess I heard wrong.
Lord Help Us
July 27th, 2010
5:14 pm
HC, sorry, but you need to pick a new poutrage, the new B Panther canard is dead…
‘Now, can you handle it, or do I have to write it out in braille and shove it up your (rectum)? – The REAL Dirty Harry.
edited for family audience…
Scout
July 27th, 2010
5:14 pm
Jay @ 4:47pm:
“Harry, you’re firing blanks. Making noise but having no impact. Come back with actual ammo sometime.”
I am very disappointed. That is totally inappropriate language for an anti-second amendment guy.
RW-(the original)
July 27th, 2010
5:14 pm
You desperately need new material…
Pot meet kettle, kettle this is pot…
John Birch
July 27th, 2010
5:14 pm
Taxpayer – black voters for Mccain = 4.8%, fair and balanced.
Mick
July 27th, 2010
5:16 pm
The tea party? It seems that they have disintegrated of late. Even their biggest booster the so called lame stream media seems to ignore this gnat of a party. Maybe they should sweeten it up a bit and become the rasberry tea party, its the fruity version, more in line with their fringe element.
@@
July 27th, 2010
5:16 pm
Time to celebrate bacteria, and no, I’m not talkin’ Democrats!
Oil has been dissipating through evaporation since BP stopped the flow from its Macondo well off the coast of Louisiana on July 15, NOAA Administrator Jane Lubchenco told reporters today on a conference call. Crude that’s dispersed into the sea is being gobbled up by bacteria, she said.
“If all is good for us, by the time the Loop Current comes back intruding into the Gulf, there will be no more oil,” Payton said today in a telephone interview. “It makes what was previously a very real threat to the Florida Straits null and void.”–BusinessWeek
stands for decibels
July 27th, 2010
5:16 pm
That is totally inappropriate language for an anti-second amendment guy.
Jay called for the abolition of the second amendment? I must have missed that.
Harry Callahan
July 27th, 2010
5:16 pm
Jay, did you ak me if I got all worked up about the 2005 incident? I don’t reall weighing in on that one. I do, however, have the AJC on record as calling the Tea Party racist. If one Democrat voter (the New Black Panther guy) is a racist, does that make all democrats racist? Because apparently one (undocumented) racist at a tea party event makes all Republicans racist.
Left wing management
July 27th, 2010
5:17 pm
Wow. So “56 percent of Georgians oppose the president’s controversial health insurance reform plan” ?
Wait, what’s the white population percentage in this state again? Hmmmm
Lord Help Us
July 27th, 2010
5:17 pm
RW, ‘ I don’t think I complained about anything.’
Jesus…Really?
TaxPayer
July 27th, 2010
5:17 pm
FOXy’s Fairly Unbalanced Blues (that’s Republispeak for GOP whining) Network ain’t racist. Just ask any of their white viewers and they’ll tell you.
@@
July 27th, 2010
5:18 pm
Huh!!??!!
This You desperately need new material… coming from stale bread, AmVet.
Harry Callahan
July 27th, 2010
5:18 pm
LOL at Lord Help Us..another internet tough guy. But yet he cowers under the sheets and wets the bed at the mere thought of not having government there to hold his little hand cradle-to-grave…LOL…
AmVet
July 27th, 2010
5:18 pm
So which is worse? Stale material or someone who can’t help themselves and reads every last word of it anyway because it is so damn good?
And the crowd goes crazy!
OK, wish I could hang around to see all those rightist blogggers faithfully citing their sources (HA!), but I’ve got to go and do my part o help pick up that $10,000,000,000.00 BP tab.
Later good people and cons…
Scout
July 27th, 2010
5:19 pm
HA !
Headline: “All About Chelsea Clinton’s Fiance. A Look Into Marc Mezvinsky’s Life as Wedding Talk Rumbles Through Rhinebeck, N.Y.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/07/27/earlyshow/main6716960.shtml?tag=cbsnewsSectionContent.1
ANOTHER “INSKY” for the Clintons. LEWINSKY/MEZVINSKY !
AmVet
July 27th, 2010
5:19 pm
Sorry humper, your girlfriend beat ya to it! Find another leg!
Over and out.
Lord Help Us
July 27th, 2010
5:20 pm
HC, ‘LOL at Lord Help Us..another internet tough guy. But yet he cowers under the sheets and wets the bed at the mere thought of not having government there to hold his little hand cradle-to-grave…LOL…’
Ahhhhh, I love the sight of a wingnut meltdown in the afternoon…my work here is done…
Jay
July 27th, 2010
5:21 pm
But Harry, why DIDN’T you get all worked up about that one? The Bush Justice Department refused to prosecute. These were little old ladies, “the wretched poor, feeble, and infirm,’ as you yourself put it, against a guy with a gun and two other jerks.
Nobody thought it was a big deal. It was handled, they went away.
All I have to say is that you guys sure do scare easily.
Harry Callahan
July 27th, 2010
5:21 pm
So you’re swearing off the government handouts LHU? Somehow I doubt that…
Scout
July 27th, 2010
5:23 pm
stands for decibels:
Not the “abolition” of the 2nd Amendment necessarily; he is just at odds with what the SCOTUS now says is the law of the land.
Remember the great liberal commentator Carl Rowan? Always on T.V. saying how no one should own a gun until he shot some kid hanging around his pool.
Jay
July 27th, 2010
5:23 pm
“But yet he cowers under the sheets and wets the bed at the mere thought of not having government there to hold his little hand cradle-to-grave”
That’s exactly what you’re doing, Harry, whining that the feds won’t protect you from those big ol’ scary black men. EXACTLY what you’re doing.
Harry Callahan
July 27th, 2010
5:23 pm
Jay, I scare easy? I’m not the one who needs government to provide my job, unemployemnt insuracne, food stamps, welfare, section 8 housing, health care, and retirement income. But if it makes you feel good to think I;m scared, I;m glad I could be there for ya, tough guy. You sleep easy now…I’ll go to work again tomorrow and keep providing for you and yours.
Harry Callahan
July 27th, 2010
5:25 pm
…and for about the 10th time, I’m not afraid of the black men…I’m just wondering why the double standard on the voter ID thing. But then logic and reasoning was never your long suit.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
5:26 pm
Daddy JAY…
You promised us some evolution and all we got is leftover Palin…bleeech…
RW-(the original)
July 27th, 2010
5:27 pm
Jesus…Really?
Yes, really although you’re always welcome to copy and paste it for all to see, LHU.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
If you want to reach that guy with the legal sidearm in Jay B’s 5:13 about his bad behavior his email address is roywarden@cox.net
TaxPayer
July 27th, 2010
5:27 pm
Perhaps Harry is available to help out Glenn too.
Harry Callahan
July 27th, 2010
5:27 pm
Jay, speaking of scared…don’t burn up tonight in all this unprecedented July Georgia heat! LOL!!!
@@
July 27th, 2010
5:27 pm
Taleb: Government Deficits Could Be the Next ‘Black Swan’
Well at least he called Obama a swan, not sure why it had to be a black swan. Racist, perhaps?
Lord Help Us
July 27th, 2010
5:28 pm
HC,
‘A man’s gotta know his limitations.’
Yours seems to be logic and thin skin…
Jay
July 27th, 2010
5:28 pm
There’s no double standard, Harry.
The same standard used in the Pima AZ incident was used in the Philadelphia incident. The difference is, one case was useful for the race-baiters at Fox to use in drumming up white fears among its viewers — and cast itself as their protectors — while the other one wasn’t.
Harry Callahan
July 27th, 2010
5:29 pm
No race-baiters at the lib news sources though, right Jay? Classic! You should be a stand-up comic!!!
Doggone/GA
July 27th, 2010
5:30 pm
Looks like we got us a grad-you-ate of the NIF school of blogging.
Harry Callahan
July 27th, 2010
5:31 pm
Was it Bill Maher who said “all Republicans aren’t racists, but all racists are Republicans?” Do you think Mr. maher would join tomorrow’s discussion, and tell us about Mel Gibson’s latest rant? LOL X 100 !!!
RW-(the original)
July 27th, 2010
5:31 pm
Sorry humper, your girlfriend beat ya to it!
Ah isn’t that cute. As I’ve said before, there are no rules against personal attacks as long as amvet is allowed to post here.
Mick
July 27th, 2010
5:32 pm
**I’m not the one who needs government to provide my job, unemployemnt insuracne, food stamps, welfare, section 8 housing, health care, and retirement income.**
So, if your down on your luck, you will be refusing all gov’t assistance? A lot of people pay in why shouldn’t it be there to help if you fall on hard times? Will you be refusing social security when your time comes? Medicare? You’re probably young right now but if you should be blessed to live long enough then your soc sec. and medicare will have been earned – no freebie there.
Del
July 27th, 2010
5:32 pm
Goodness the moonbats have Sarah Palin, global warming and the Tea party all on the same thread. They’re having cerebral orgsims all over the blog.
Harry Callahan
July 27th, 2010
5:33 pm
No worries Doggone…Barack is going to take care of you and your family. You can totally abdicate and abandon your responsibilities as a husband, father, and as a MAN, and let the government bureaucrats do it all f or you.
G Cancryn
July 27th, 2010
5:33 pm
I don’t think anyone will argue that Sarah Palin has superior intelligence.
You know, there are Americans trying to blame President Obama for the economy, unemployment, etc.
This economy was chiseled in stone. The Rep. had the house, senate and white house. They broke the country. And now they have the nerve to demand the country be fixed by President Obama in a year and a half.
Look it took the Republicans 8YEARS to drive this country into the ground. Firstly, it’s always easier to break something than to build something. Secondly, this is a large country with a large economy, linked globally. It’s going to take time for this huge ocean liner to be turned around.
The nerve of you FOOLS to look at the country as it is now, and criticize the President. Where were you BIG MOUTHS while the Republicans and the wealthy robbed us all?
AND NOW YOU WANT THEM BACK? Some of you are unemployed, or underemployed, you got and will get more of the same, just what you deserve.
Doggone/GA
July 27th, 2010
5:34 pm
“You can totally abdicate and abandon your responsibilities as a husband, father, and as a MAN”
You betcha!
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
5:34 pm
Doggone
@ 5:30
I was sorta thinking that myself…
Lord Help Us
July 27th, 2010
5:34 pm
HC,
‘Listen, punk, to me you’re nothing but dog(poop), do ya understand? And a lot of things can happen to dog(poop). It can be scraped up with a shovel off the ground, it can dry up and blow away in the wind, or it can be stepped on and squashed. So take my advice- be careful where the dog (poops) ya!
Now, I’ve got my toes in the water (butt) in the clay…not a worry in the world a PBR on the way…life was good today…
Edited for family viewing…
Del
July 27th, 2010
5:35 pm
Forgot to add race. Talk about on topic control.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 27th, 2010
5:35 pm
“Race baiters at Fox News.”
This from a guy who works for Cynthia Tucker, just sayin….
Harry Callahan
July 27th, 2010
5:35 pm
Mick…take a finance course and re-join the discussion when you have something intelligent to add. In other words, take 6.2% of your pay, double it because your employer matches it, calculate how much that will grow to over 50 years of work with compound interest, and then compare that figure to a social security check that doesn’t even buy groceries. But I know, libs don’t really do math, so unfair post on my part…
Harry Callahan
July 27th, 2010
5:37 pm
The libs have resorted to name-calling…always happens when they can’t argue on facts and reasoning…which is 99% of the time…
@@
July 27th, 2010
5:37 pm
AmVet:
but I’ve got to go and do my part o help pick up that $10,000,000,000.00 BP tab.
Feel free to stay as long as you like.
I can go back, pull up any one of your repetitive posts and no one would be the wiser. I’ll sign on under your handle. I was gonna make that offer before “you went on vacation” but POOF, you were gone.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 27th, 2010
5:37 pm
Checking voter IDs and beating people away from the polling place are two entirely different animals, know what I mean?
Doggone/GA
July 27th, 2010
5:37 pm
Josef – “I was sorta thinking that myself…”
They just CAN’T help giving it away, can they?
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
5:38 pm
Doggone
“You can totally abdicate and abandon your responsibilities as a husband, father, and as a MAN”
Well, we know one thing, Harry’s an ingenue in these parts, so less be nice, now you hear. Make him feel at home, bless his heart…
Mick
July 27th, 2010
5:40 pm
take 6.2% of your pay, double it because your employer matches it, calculate how much that will grow to over 50 years of work with compound interest, and then compare that figure to a social security check.
You are clueless! Take that formula to all the people that tanked in the market two years ago. Besides, I never claimed that my whole retirement would be funded by soc. sec. It is the safety net against poverty for many. For me, it will be ADDITIONAL income which I will welcome and demand.
Harry Callahan
July 27th, 2010
5:40 pm
It’s called personal responsibility josef…you might not be seeing a shrink for your failing self-respect and self-worth if only you would try it.
Doggone/GA
July 27th, 2010
5:40 pm
“Harry’s an ingenue in these parts”
Well, let’s call it an indication…not proof. NIF, in particular, never could remember how to address me properly…if you get my drift. He had to be reminded, yet again, not too long before he got booted.
Harry Callahan
July 27th, 2010
5:41 pm
Mick…Iwas in the market 2 years ago too. I lost very little. Google DIVERSIFICATION and get back to us again.
Abrazos
July 27th, 2010
5:41 pm
Harry C,
You’re outclassed and outmaneuvered by Jay today, amigo. For your own mental and emotional health, it’s time to shut down the ‘puter for the day. There are 18 minutes left of Glenn Beck’s show to get your material for tomorrow.
Mick
July 27th, 2010
5:42 pm
Harry Callahan
Different name, same twisted logic. Wake up and get back to reality.
Harry Callahan
July 27th, 2010
5:43 pm
Abrazos…thanks for rolling out another tried-and-true liberal tactic. You know, the “it’s true just because I asserted it” tactic. Like Clinton claiming he ran a budget surplus when he never did.
Harry Callahan
July 27th, 2010
5:44 pm
Mick, the reality is I’m quite comfortable and don’t need a government security blanket like you do. There’s winners and losers in life. Learn to deal with it.
larry
July 27th, 2010
5:44 pm
I wasnt in the market 2 years ago, got out a year earlier . Google DONT TRUST REPUBLICAN ECONOMICS and get back to us. And i didnt lose a dime, in fact made money .
Paulo977
July 27th, 2010
5:45 pm
Some here suggest the TeaParty is not racist! ?????
http://chuckcurrie.blogs.com/chuck_currie/2010/07/tea-party-incites-hate-racism-and-sarah-palin-defends-it-all.html
Harry Callahan
July 27th, 2010
5:45 pm
Outclassed by Jay…LOL. maybe I’ll post hte email from 2008 where he told me Obama would be a better steward of our money than Bush. Anybody see the latest deficit projections? LOL…
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
5:45 pm
Harry
So, what’s your thoughts on evolution?
Doggone/GA
July 27th, 2010
5:47 pm
Josef – “maybe I’ll post hte email from 2008 where he told me Obama would be a better steward of our money than Bush”
Ingenue? Not so much, by his own admission. NI NIF! How long you gonna last this time?
popeye
July 27th, 2010
5:47 pm
AmVet, there’s not even any film of the supposed racism at Tea Party events. I’m trying to point out the hypocrosy and double standard. I thought you libtards were all about “nuance”? Guess I heard wrong….Harry want to check out the video?
http://vodpod.com/watch/4094727-ed-schultz-on-sean-hannitys-denial-of-tea-party-racism
Del
July 27th, 2010
5:48 pm
“For me, it will be ADDITIONAL income which I will welcome and demand.”
Sorry but for the good of the socialist state your demands won’t be met.
Harry Callahan
July 27th, 2010
5:48 pm
josef, here’s my thoughts on evolution. It began with a big bang, right? What exploded, what triggered the explosion, and prior to the explosion, what occupied the space that the universe now occupies? If hte big bang happened on Day One, what happened before that? Ponder those and get back to us.
popeye
July 27th, 2010
5:50 pm
My 5:47 which you put under moderation….If it’s suitable for regular news television why is it not suitable here?
Harry Callahan
July 27th, 2010
5:50 pm
Sorry guys, I have to get in my big gas-sguzzling SUV, drive back to my beautiful home in the suburbs, water my lawn, crank the air conditioner down to about 60 degrees, and do all of the other things that liberals hate/can’t afford. Ya’ll have a good evening though.
Doggone/GA
July 27th, 2010
5:50 pm
“josef, here’s my thoughts on evolution”
Yeah, yeah…we’ve heard it all before. Can’t you AT LEAST come up with a different order for the questions, and maybe even a new word or two…just so it LOOKS different?
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
5:51 pm
Harry
So, I take it you’re interested in Cabbala…are you over 27?
Jay
July 27th, 2010
5:51 pm
Harry is a regular here now under a new guise, but he’s not NiF.
Mick
July 27th, 2010
5:52 pm
Harry Callahan
I’m glad you’ve made it and are comfortable. Everything is not all about just you. I know so many good hardworking men and women that have toiled their whole life that are honest, law abiding citizens. I’ll tell you right now that if they didn’t have soc. sec. and medicare they would be paupers, is that what you want? Many people can stretch their soc. sec and survive, whats the alternative? nothing? Get over yourself and be glad that you are “comfortable”. Just remember this, one day you will get old and if some misfortune befalls you or your family, then you’ll understand why social security is what it is.
Harry Callahan
July 27th, 2010
5:52 pm
Not to renege on my promise to leave, but I just have to respond to Del’s 5:48…
It’s amazing how naive Mick is, right? LOL…hasn’t figured out that Social Security will be means-tested before long…classic…Goodnight all…
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
5:52 pm
JAY
Fred from last PM? The Romany lady says 3-1 on that one…
Doggone/GA
July 27th, 2010
5:52 pm
“So, what’s your thoughts on evolution?”
Fell for it hook, line and sinker…didn’t he?
Doggone/GA
July 27th, 2010
5:53 pm
“but he’s not NiF”
Close enough for government work
@@
July 27th, 2010
5:54 pm
Oh my!
Barack Obama enlists Afghan war leaks in support of policy switch
Material cataloguing blunders justifies decision to deploy 30,000 more US troops, US president says–guardian.co.uk
What was that WH saying again? Never let a crisis go to……?
Mick
July 27th, 2010
5:55 pm
Del
So now its bash social security?
Jay
July 27th, 2010
5:56 pm
and as I said last time he mentioned that email, he should post it. I’d still argue today — correctly — that the deficit and debt would be even bigger today if Republicans were still in charge.
Del
July 27th, 2010
5:58 pm
Mick,
Don’t know how close you are to collecting but it’s going fast, so you better jump on board soon.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
5:59 pm
Doggone
Shoot! And now he’s gone, just as we were beginning to engage…
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 27th, 2010
6:01 pm
The last deficit posted by a Republican controlled Congress was 161 billion dollars which is like 1.5 Trillion dollars less than what the dummycrats have given us, is there any other proof of what you say besides that it emerged from your mouth?
Mick
July 27th, 2010
6:02 pm
Del
**Don’t know how close you are to collecting but it’s going fast, so you better jump on board soon.**
Close enough, Its solvent up to 2042. With some proper tweaking, it will be solvent for every generation. It’s one of the most successful and important gov’t programs out there. Do you refuse yours?
Del
July 27th, 2010
6:02 pm
‘if Republicans were still in charge” Jay, “IF” statements don’t prove anything. Back later, have to pick up my daughter.
stands for decibels
July 27th, 2010
6:03 pm
Never let a crisis go to……?
waste. The actual line is “You never want a serious crisis to go to waste.” He went on to say “Things that we had postponed for too long, that were long-term, are now immediate and must be dealt with. This crisis provides the opportunity for us to do things that you could not do before.”
And Rahm’s right, about that, anyway.
He’s wrong about me and others being a “[bleeping] retards” for lambasting lily-livered Conservadems who watered down and nearly sunk healthcare reform, however.
Doggone/GA
July 27th, 2010
6:03 pm
“And now he’s gone”
Haven’t you noticed? Here lately he jumps in under a new name, bores us all with the same “info” bombs…and then runs like a scalded cat when he’s “identified”
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 27th, 2010
6:04 pm
The dummycrats never met a dollar they didn’t spend.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
6:06 pm
Doggone
Has a real identity crisis, doesn’t he?
stands for decibels
July 27th, 2010
6:07 pm
The last deficit posted by a Republican controlled Congress was 161 billion dollars
…and conveniently didn’t include “emergency” war funding.
RW-(the original)
July 27th, 2010
6:09 pm
201
RW-(the original)
July 27th, 2010
6:10 pm
Sorry, Andy.
Scooter
July 27th, 2010
6:10 pm
Ok,I need some help here as usual! If Harry ain’t nif, who is he?
Doggone/GA
July 27th, 2010
6:10 pm
“Has a real identity crisis, doesn’t he?”
Yep…and the poor thing just can NOT help displaying the same personality every time.
Doggone/GA
July 27th, 2010
6:12 pm
“If Harry ain’t nif, who is he?”
Wasn’t it LA who was posting as “Fred” the other day? Too bad there’s no “cross blog” search…that rant about evolution would be dead give-away. I think he posted pretty much that same baloney late last week.
Scarecrow
July 27th, 2010
6:13 pm
Jay, after reading some of these “POSTS” — when did the people in GA become so hateful about the needs and concerns of their fellow citizens. Some of the people in GA (and other states) have come upon hard times and need help and the resources that the Federal and State governments provide — but these “folks” on your blog would rather seem them homeless, hungry and begging on the streets!! What happened to compassion. Peadawg do you attend any kind of religious facility? You are just mean and unforgiving!
Mick
July 27th, 2010
6:14 pm
I noticed that del had to duck out quickly when I asked if he is refusing his social security. Anyone who arguments against that program, and this is just my opinion, is – NUTZ
Doggone/GA
July 27th, 2010
6:14 pm
BTW, Josef…should we open a book on how long it takes him to come back and boast we have nothing else to talk about but him?
RW-(the original)
July 27th, 2010
6:14 pm
DoggoneGA,
Just pick out some relevant text and tell google only to search this site.
Jay
July 27th, 2010
6:15 pm
The deficit ballooned because the Great Recession slashed revenues and drove up costs, events that were already well under way by 2007 and would have occurred regardless of who controlled Congress. TARP, you recall, was passed at Bush’s urging.
The one thing that would have been different had the GOP still controlled Washington would have been the stimulus package. But Republicans would still have put together a stimulus — doing nothing would not have been an option under the circumstances. Their version of the stimulus would have been much more heavily weighted toward tax cuts, which in turn would have put still more money in the hands of those who already had a lot of money and were refusing to spend it.
As a result, the GOP stimulus would have failed, the economy would be even worse than it is now and thus the deficit would be even bigger.
All standard economics that even most conservative economists would acknowledge, if only in private.
Doggone/GA
July 27th, 2010
6:16 pm
“Just pick out some relevant text and tell google only to search this site”
Oh yeah! Forgot about being able to do that! Thanks.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
6:19 pm
Doggone
At least he doesn’t suffer from multiple personality disorder, eh?
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 27th, 2010
6:21 pm
Yeah and the cow jumped over the moon.
Meanwhile, back on Earth, some of us realize that the US entitlement system, wholly devised by dummycrats, is no better than a Madoff Ponzi scheme with the one difference being that the dummycrats aren’t in jail.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 27th, 2010
6:26 pm
The rebound in profits ought to be a good omen. It frees companies to be more aggressive. They’re sitting on huge cash reserves: a record of $838 billion for industrial companies in the Standard & Poor’s 500 index (companies like Apple, Boeing and Caterpillar) at the end of March, up 26 percent from a year earlier. “They have the wherewithal to do whatever they want — hire; make new investments; raise dividends; do mergers and acquisitions,” says S&P’s Howard Silverblatt. Historically, higher profits lead to higher employment, says Mark Zandi of Moody’s Economy.com.
Watch what happens when the Repugs do get their tax cuts.
Government revenue isn’t everything, oh wait, yeah it is, to a socialist anyway…
stands for decibels
July 27th, 2010
6:27 pm
Someone mention SS? Hadda pass this along before departing for the evening…
One big mystery to me about the catfood commission is that there are people who think that all they need to do is find some “fix” which will allow Social Security to be scored as “solvent” for 75 years and then we’ll all join hands and sing and all political controversy about the issue will disappear forever.
The people on the Right want to destroy Social Security and steal all the money. That’s their goal. And if something the catfood commission proposes is actually passed, they’ll get right back to work on their goals.
kayaker 71
July 27th, 2010
6:29 pm
original topic,
If this Mama Grizzley is so inconsequential in the upcoming 2010 election, why does Bookman have so many threads about this dumb, uninformed, ditzo from Alaska who doesn’t have a clue? Why does it become necessary to demonize this woman, yet again, for what she believes? I haven’t seen a Republican candidate yet who has shunned her endorsement like some of the Demos that have pretended that Bozo didn’t exist. Now, who has the political power here and who is in the driver’s seat? If you don’t have that figured out yet Bookman, your head is in the sand.
stands for decibels
July 27th, 2010
6:34 pm
If this Mama Grizzley is so inconsequential in the upcoming 2010 election
Jay was arguing the opposite.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 27th, 2010
6:36 pm
standsfordingbats- Considering that Social “Security” is mostly forcefully coerced from people who earned it and given to people who haven’t earned it, your usage of the word “stolen” is rather obtuse, just sayin…
stands for decibels
July 27th, 2010
6:39 pm
Aww. Is Andy having another bad day?
You’ll cash your SS checks (ok, they’ll probably be direct-deposited) just like every whiny-ass crybaby conservadroid posting here, and you’ll be glad it’s there for you. And if you live to actuarial expectations, you’ll discover it was a pretty good deal, considering what you’d contributed.
Pleasant evening, all.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
July 27th, 2010
6:39 pm
Well, I’m with Harry Whathisname on this Black Panther thing. It would scare me to death to go to the polls with one of Those People standing there with a big baton in his hand. Unless I was with about 40 other godly rednecks and maybe five or six big pot-bellied White cops and a couple deputies. Things have been turned upside down in the past few years and I don’t like it one bit. Use to be Those People knowed their place, and it wasn’t at the polls. Unless they could pass a reading test and owned some property. We are going against God’s Will. We’ll always be better than them because we were born that way.
That’s my opinion and it’s very true. Have a good night everybody. Even you librul heathens.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
6:41 pm
Doggone
I think Harry was here last p.m. under at least 3 aliases…
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 27th, 2010
6:41 pm
standsfordingbats- In fact, I will increase my Tithing conversely to what ever pittance you libs stick in the mail.
Just the facts, m’am.
Scooter
July 27th, 2010
6:42 pm
kayaker 71
July 27th, 2010
6:29 pm
I think the Libs hatred for Palin is making her more revelent and they don’t even realize it. IMO
RW-(the original)
July 27th, 2010
6:44 pm
I keep posting this over and over.
That’s for sure.
RW-(the original)
July 27th, 2010
6:45 pm
That was a mighty quick ejection.
Dave R.
July 27th, 2010
6:46 pm
Jay @ 6:15: “As a result, the GOP stimulus would have failed, the economy would be even worse than it is now and thus the deficit would be even bigger.”
As opposed to the Democrat stimulus which has failed MISERABLY, Jay?
If the GOP were in charge, there would be no health care reform, which is costing firms future capital, there would be a smaller deficit, because they would have sent far less than almost a trillion bucks, and there would be no financial reform, which caused firms to wait on investments to their businesses.
Sorry, Jay, you missed the boat again, because you don’t understand how the free market reacts to government intervention.
casual observer
July 27th, 2010
6:46 pm
The word BOO! Has been replaced in the Lib dictionary with the word Palin!
Nothing frightens them more. It is Hilarious.
Doggone/GA
July 27th, 2010
6:48 pm
“At least he doesn’t suffer from multiple personality disorder, eh?”
That he doesn’t! Different name, same person…every time.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
6:50 pm
casual observer
Did you catch the drive by using the monniker “not so casual observer?”
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
6:51 pm
Doggone
Count down on the “nothing better to talk about” post…?
Doggone/GA
July 27th, 2010
6:52 pm
“Nothing frightens them more”
Frightening? Not to me. But she IS good for a laugh now and then. And a good laugh is good for ya.
Scooter
July 27th, 2010
6:53 pm
Ok,so I take nobody knows who Harry really is. Except Jay of course!
getalife
July 27th, 2010
6:54 pm
A decent reality show.
The Palins.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
6:56 pm
Scooter
Not even Harry knows who Harry is in name…
Scout
July 27th, 2010
6:56 pm
Jay:
Since you’re talking about that area of the country:
1) NEW HAMPSHIRE: “No license is required to ‘openly’ carry a firearm while on foot.”
2) VERMONT: “Vermont allows the concealed or open carrying of firearms without any permit requirement. Vermont law does not distinguish between residents and non-residents of the state; both have the same right to carry while in Vermont.
AND HERE IS THE REASON:
“The Vermont constitution of 1793, based partly on the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights, guarantees certain freedoms and rights to the citizens: “That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the State — and as standing armies in time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up; and that the military should be kept under strict subordination to and governed by the civil power.”
F. Sinkwich
July 27th, 2010
6:57 pm
I’m heartened to read that Jay realizes that an Obama endorsement of his candidate of choice Barnes would be catastrophic to Barnes’ candidacy.
Yet Palin’s endorsement of Handel seemed to help her.
Gee, why is that?
Gee, why is that?
Scout
July 27th, 2010
6:58 pm
P.S. NEW HAMPSHIRE’S MOTTO:
“LIVE FREE OR DIE”
@@
July 27th, 2010
6:59 pm
Aahhwww, this is sad. President Obama will not be showing up, in person, to address the Boy Scouts of America on the occasion of their 100th anniversary.
He’s gonna make a live appearance with his girl scouts on The View.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
6:59 pm
Scooter
Perhaps he’s from the zoo…
Which zoo?
‘ow would I know which zoo, I’m not the Bruin
Who’s he?
Oh, he knows everything!
I wouldn’t like that, It would take all the mystery out of life.
(with apologies to monty python…)
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
7:01 pm
F Sinkwich
I caught a glimpse of that Barnes thingie scrolling through earlier…did Jay ever say why he thought that?
F. Sinkwich
July 27th, 2010
7:02 pm
@@,
He’s a girly-man, fer sure.
Ever seen him throw a baseball?
F. Sinkwich
July 27th, 2010
7:03 pm
josef, didn’t see specifics. But its true.
@@
July 27th, 2010
7:04 pm
When Harry Met jay’s Sallies.
Sorry, josef…couldn’t resist.
(ISH)
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
7:05 pm
F Sinkwich
Yes, it is…I’m just interested in what Jay has to say about why…
Scout
July 27th, 2010
7:05 pm
@@:
It’s not sad ………….. it’s pathetic !
“And so he bowed.”
@@
July 27th, 2010
7:05 pm
Yes Sinkwich, I did see him throw that baseball. Saw Dennis Miller too.
I can throw better than both of ‘em.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
7:06 pm
@@
That’s a good one!
Del
July 27th, 2010
7:10 pm
I really have to hand it to Callahan. I think he logged off just before I did around 6:00pm and his spirit lived on for what appears to be over one hour. He stirred things up and the lib’s were beside themselves. Good job of getting goats on here.
Jay
July 27th, 2010
7:10 pm
Really? You need that explained?
Palin’s endorsements have been useful because they’ve come in primary races, where the party faithful and already convinced turn out to vote. As the NH poll suggests, they would be much less useful and maybe even damaging in a general election.
And that’s what Barnes is now in — a general election, where endorsements from fellow Democrats don’t really help much.
@@
July 27th, 2010
7:10 pm
Scout:
It’s not sad ………….. it’s pathetic !
It really is, especially considering how many minorities participate in the program. Our church sponsors a troop. I’d say 85% are minorities. Many from single-parent households where the Mom is looking for male role models to assist them in raising their sons.
F. Sinkwich
July 27th, 2010
7:13 pm
josef, I think Jay believes that Georgians are neanderthals — he doesn’t understand how anyone can’t enthusiastically support someone as smart, erudite, educated, articulate, and wonderful as the Messiah, Obama.
He thinks it’s because Georgians back-woods, trailer-park, white-trash, hood-wearing stoopid.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
7:14 pm
JAY
Not to mention flag boy has to not alienate those unwashed white masses? He ain’t goin’ nowhere fast without ‘em…same with his p*ssyfootin’ on gay stuff…
Dave R.
July 27th, 2010
7:15 pm
Especially when that endorsement is from a President who is 0-fer just about every candidate he’s backed.
Just sayin’. . . .
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
7:15 pm
F Sinkwich
I don’t know how much he actually thinks that himself, but he sure doesn’t challeng his (our) own kind when they go off on it, either…
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 27th, 2010
7:16 pm
Ask yourself, who is Fulton County’s most recently elected US Senator and who did Palin endorse?
Dave R.
July 27th, 2010
7:16 pm
“Flag-boy”, josef?
Mehtinks you don’t like the gentleman from the use of that moniker.
Doggone/GA
July 27th, 2010
7:16 pm
“Count down on the “nothing better to talk about” post…?”
80 minutes
Soothsayer
July 27th, 2010
7:17 pm
The old environment of originating mortgages and business loans with modest margins is full of competition and thus not very profitable; there is no way for the U.S. financial system to reap the kinds of staggering profits it has become accustomed to from “old style” banking, credit creation and lending.
Thus the Central State’s political leaders are trying desperately to do the impossible: to limit the opportunities for profitable windfall exploitation without undermining the entire narrow financial ecology upon which all the sector’s huge profits depend.
Exquisitely sensitive to the possibility that limiting the sources of profit–the shadow banking system, the leverage, the derivatives–might end up killing off the highly specialized species of finance which feeds their re-election campaigns, the politicos have engaged in a convoluted facsimile of reform which leaves the ecology open for exploitation by money-center and investment banks even as it attempts to rein in the most extreme exploitation.
But the foundation of the financial sector’s gigantic profits are not broad–they are very narrow. The financial sector does not depend on the sprawling U.S. economy for most of its profits–it depends on a narrow slice of fecund financial territory that would wither under transparency and strict regulation.
The irony is that State manipulation and a studied lack of oversight enabled the blossoming of this highly specialized species of profit, and now State manipulation threatens to undermine it.
But Nature itself may foil the plans of both the supremely specialized financial sector and its State toadies. The financial sector is now so specialized and so dependent on dwindling sources of profit that even State manipulation cannot broaden its withering supply of financial fodder.
Dave R.
July 27th, 2010
7:18 pm
OK, Whiner, I’m not getting that last one. Fulton County doesn’t have a U.S. Senator, and Palin wasn’t handing out endorsements the last go-around..
Del
July 27th, 2010
7:19 pm
Oh no, another cut and paste.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
7:20 pm
DAVE
That twit wore me to a low thin gravey with the way he behaved during that…I never thought that flag was appropriate myself, but the way he and the rest of the jackasses went about it put a bad taste in my mouth that’s still there everytime I see or hear from one of ‘em…
Soothsayer
July 27th, 2010
7:22 pm
Asteroid could threaten Earth in 2182
I don’t know about you, but this has got me worried something aweful.
F. Sinkwich
July 27th, 2010
7:22 pm
Dave R., you have more patience than I have to respond to that stupidity
Jay
July 27th, 2010
7:22 pm
Frank, tell you what. You speak for yourself, and I’ll do the same, and we’ll get along fine.
Nothing I have ever said or written could be construed to support the ugly words you’re trying to stuff in my mouth.
F. Sinkwich
July 27th, 2010
7:25 pm
I got carried away, Jay, sorry.
But I do interpret your views as elitist from time to time.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
7:27 pm
JAY
If you’re referring to the part about trailer trash etc as putting words in your mouth, I’ll grant you that but you don’t challenge it when others do either and silence there can be read as such…
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 27th, 2010
7:27 pm
Dave R.- Fulton County certainly does have a US Senator and not only did Palin endorse him, she came to Gwinnett and held a rally for him.
Check it out, my man.
Jay
July 27th, 2010
7:28 pm
The people I come from wouldn’t stand for elitist, Frank.
MAC
July 27th, 2010
7:28 pm
Jay, you need rehab for your Palin addiction.
You keep trying to tell us why she doesn’t matter and yet you write ANOTHER column about her.
You’re like the kid in the school yard who tries to act mean by punching the arm of a girl because he really has a crush on her.
You don’t care for her political views but you’d have withdrawal if she went away.
And she doesn’t even know who you are.
Jay
July 27th, 2010
7:29 pm
I’ve left that in your capable hands, Josef.
Doggone/GA
July 27th, 2010
7:30 pm
“the Messiah, Obama”
I’m still trying to figure out why those on the “right” think Obama is the Messiah.
@@
July 27th, 2010
7:31 pm
If that asteroid hits, global warming will be a thing of the past.
The war between VOLCANOES and ASTEROIDS!!!!!
Jay
July 27th, 2010
7:35 pm
Well gee, Mac, Palin comes in and reportedly alters the course of the GOP gubernatorial primary, and I guess I’m not supposed to mention it?
That puzzles me. I often get a similar reaction when I post about Newt or Mitt or Huckabee, as if it’s somehow impolite to actually write about the top national Republicans. Are you folks embarrassed by them? Is that it?
If you don’t want her mentioned, don’t nominate her for vice president and celebrate her as the “queenmaker” of your party and name her as the most popular national figure in your party. Don’t let Fox give her a contract and put her on TV so often.
I didn’t do all that. The “liberal media” didn’t do that. The Republican base and its media wing did it.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
7:35 pm
Jay
I appreciate that, and you have never challenged me for so doing, either…and given what you have shared of your background, I can see where you would make the case that they “wouldn’t stand for it” in you being an elitist. But you do run in elitist circles (and so do I, so I’m not hurling charges that can’t be hurled at me) and you know as well as I do what they’re like when it comes to “those people.” I guess you might say I (and perhaps the few others here who join with me) would like to have a little support there from time to time from someone whose word carries more weight…
Jay
July 27th, 2010
7:37 pm
Josef, I do NOT run in elitist circles. I stay as far from them as I can, as my friends will attest. They’d roar to hear themselves described as an elitist circle.
md
July 27th, 2010
7:38 pm
Darn, missed the downstairs thread where Jay didn’t have it right. Wall St wasn’t alone, and “Main St” might not be as poor if they hadn’t spent everything they made and then some on bigger houses and all the crap they could get to put in them. The entire country forgot the definition of “savings”.
As for as the comment about a gop stimuluas not working……pure speculation, as it never happened.
But if we did still have a gop congress, the perception would be totally different. Balanced gov’t has a way of soothing the business conscious – this crap we have now sure doesn’t.
"Information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment" - BHO, May 1, 2010
July 27th, 2010
7:41 pm
Charlie Rangal belongs in federal prison.
Tony Heyward should be his biatch…..
@@
July 27th, 2010
7:42 pm
Doggone:
In referring to Obama as the messiah, the right’s use of the term is sarcastic. You may wanna refer back to some of your own “true believers”
By Max Blumenthal: In their quest for a savior, progressives discovered Barack Obama. “I serve as a blank screen on which people of vastly different political stripes project their own views,” Obama proclaimed in his book, The Audacity of Hope. As Obama’s primary battle against Hillary Clinton intensified, his rhetoric and the language of his supporters grew increasingly messianic. At a rally in South Carolina, Oprah Winfrey referred to Obama as “The One,” a fusion of Jesus and Neo from The Matrix. When Obama defeated Clinton in Iowa, he quoted from a Hopi Indian End Times prophecy that had become popular among New Agers: “We are the ones we’ve been waiting for.” Moved to the point of ecstasy by Obama’s victory speech, Ezra Klein declared the candidate, “not the Word made flesh, but the triumph of the word over flesh… Obama is, at his best, able to call us back to our higher selves.”
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
7:42 pm
I will agree that Sarah has set herself up as a public figure open to pot shots–and L-rd knows, she is certainly obliging. But did she not get the media exposure she’s given for free, she wouldn’t be as considerable an influence as she appears to be. What I find intriguing is that her “enemies” are so petulant in their attacks and no one is asking themselves why she has the following she has…she is speaking to something in the American psyche that, I feel, is deserving of analysis beyond the often not so witty one-liners. I think what it is, is that she IS us and we really had rather not admit that that’s who we are…
MAC
July 27th, 2010
7:42 pm
I like Palin. Mention her all you want. I don’t care if she’s presidential timber or not. She still has a voice and a point of view and it carries some influence. Much more influence than most of the intelligensia pundits on the right and the left.
I’m just commenting on the way you minimize her yet continue to be fascinated by her. By all means….indulge away.
Soothsayer
July 27th, 2010
7:42 pm
The first clans organized around local police forces. The conservatives’ war on crime during the late 20th century and the Bush/Obama war on terror during the first decade of the 21st century had resulted in the police becoming militarized and unaccountable.
As society broke down, the police became warlords. The state police broke apart, and the officers were subsumed into the local forces of their communities. The newly formed tribes expanded to encompass the relatives and friends of the police.
The dollar had collapsed as world reserve currency in 2012 when the worsening economic depression made it clear to Washington’s creditors that the federal budget deficit was too large to be financed except by the printing of money.
With the dollar’s demise, import prices skyrocketed. As Americans were unable to afford foreign-made goods, the transnational corporations that were producing offshore for US markets were bankrupted, further eroding the government’s revenue base.
The government was forced to print money in order to pay its bills, causing domestic prices to rise rapidly. Faced with hyperinflation, Washington took recourse in terminating Social Security and Medicare and followed up by confiscating the remnants of private pensions. This provided a one-year respite, but with no more resources to confiscate, money creation and hyperinflation resumed.
Organized food deliveries broke down when the government fought hyperinflation with fixed prices and the mandate that all purchases and sales had to be in US paper currency. Unwilling to trade appreciating goods for depreciating paper, goods disappeared from stores.
Washington responded as Lenin had done during the “war communism” period of Soviet history. The government sent troops to confiscate goods for distribution in kind to the population. This was a temporary stop-gap until existing stocks were depleted, as future production was discouraged. Much of the confiscated stocks became the property of the troops who seized the goods.
Goods reappeared in markets under the protection of local warlords. Transactions were conducted in barter and in gold, silver, and copper coins.
GOD! What a nightmare!!! It’s nice to wake up and find out it’s not really true!
md
July 27th, 2010
7:42 pm
“If you don’t want her mentioned, don’t nominate her for vice president and celebrate her as the “queenmaker” of your party and name her as the most popular national figure in your party. Don’t let Fox give her a contract and put her on TV so often.
I didn’t do all that. The “liberal media” didn’t do that. The Republican base and its media wing did it.”
For the most part, wrong on all counts. McCain put her up as VP and Fox hired her, neither by vote of the electorate.
Dusty
July 27th, 2010
7:43 pm
WHAT/ WHAT// Doggone/Ga is not a man??? OH oh.. You sure??
May I have the army boots? I want to give ‘em to RedNeck for his wife.
And who’s stuffing words in Bookman’s mouth??? Whoever it is ought to be ashamed. Ugly words???. Been going on for ages. But it’s not his fault. Nothing ever is!! He’s a Daddy Grizzly for sure. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Jay
July 27th, 2010
7:44 pm
Now if you’ll excuse me, I’ve got some hamburgers to throw on the grill.
Or as mes amis say, “les biftecks à Hambourgeoise.”
"Information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment" - BHO, May 1, 2010
July 27th, 2010
7:45 pm
Wyclef Jean for President of Haiti — GOOD IDEA !!!!!!
Soothsayer
July 27th, 2010
7:46 pm
“Josef, I do NOT run in elitist circles. I stay as far from them as I can, as my friends will attest. They’d roar to hear themselves described as an elitist circle.”
Come on, Jay! I know I’ve seen you at Zesto’s more than a few times!
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
7:47 pm
JAY
Please accept my apologies. I was not clear enough there. I should have said “professionally.” I am sincere in this apology. I have seen and heard enough “slips” to know that in your time off you are, indeed, a regular guy and that is one of the reasons I like you and, well, will jump to your defense when there are those hereabouts who attack you personally on those things.
@@
July 27th, 2010
7:53 pm
Where is Hillbilly Deluxe?
Paging Hillbilly….paging Hillbilly.
Please report to the principal’s office.
AmVet
July 27th, 2010
7:54 pm
HC,
‘A man’s gotta know his
limitationsirritations.’Yowzers, the cons have some twisted knickers this evening. Must have grizzly hemorrhoids! But from the no surprises here category, that childish act of speaking for others seldom changes.
The funny thing about trolls is how they lack testicular fortitude to the point where they will not choose a moniker and stick with it, punk. At least for more than about a day. Yet, their transparent dumbassedness (I know, one of my made up words) always gives them away anywho! (another one) Just look at that poor schmuck Grand Forks. The boy actually feigned not knowing who LA and whodat were. Now that is the definition of pathetic. Are these people even adults?
And just as bad are his couple of ideological cousins here who go over to Wingfield and kiss his ___ there and feed their shared right-wing Cult of Victimhood. Now that’s really pathetic!
I too am glad that Sister Sarah has ascended to the throne of right wing royalty. She as much as anybody clearly defines what more of George W. Bush would look like. And due to our collective ADHD, it is imperative that the nation never forget…
Dusty
July 27th, 2010
7:54 pm
Oh quit snifflin’, Josef. Here’s a Kleenex.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
7:57 pm
DUSTY
Blessed are the pacemakers…
Thanks for the kleenex, but why do you say I’m sniffling…for real, why?
"Information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment" - BHO, May 1, 2010
July 27th, 2010
7:57 pm
That dang Palin lady and her cabal…..
Can I make a silly poem?
Karen Handel has a scandal….
We all knew somebody would try to light a few roman candles…..
Deal is a nasty meal.
Yuck..I have no rhyme.
Barnes is the worst possible choice.
He thinks the voters of Georgia have given up assembling and raising their voice.
The voters of Georgia are EFF’D when it comes to governor this November.
Please draft Clark Howard.
Dusty
July 27th, 2010
7:59 pm
Oh gee AmVet,
“can’t choose a moniker and stick eith it , Punk!,”",, That’s a good one. remember all the old “monikers “you once used. You trying to forget or something?? Does “Huge” strike a bell?
Oh well. A little dementia never hurt anybody!!
@@
July 27th, 2010
8:00 pm
AmVet:
What’s really pathetic is you’re over at Kyle’s spying on Grand Forks and I.
Pretty pathetic, wouldn’t you agree?
You wouldn’t, perchance, be using a different name over there, would ‘ya?
Naaahhhhh, everyone knows YOU would never do that. Believe you me….that would be a HUGE mistake.
Schirt!
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
8:00 pm
AmVet
Speaking strictly as a linguist, dumbassedness is a perfectly legitimate word given the structural patterns and freedom the Germanic languages affords its speakers to put together new lexical usages as the need arises!
Dusty
July 27th, 2010
8:03 pm
Josef,
Because you used up six lines fawning over Jay. That’s why. He has not developed a halo yet.
@@
July 27th, 2010
8:03 pm
Grand Forks and me…make that me.
josef makes me nervous.
Soothsayer
July 27th, 2010
8:08 pm
“When Money Dies: the Nightmare of The Weimar Hyper-Inflation” has just been reprinted. Written by former Tory MEP Adam Fergusson — endorsed by Warren Buffett as a must-read — it is a vivid account drawn from the diaries of those who lived through the turmoil in Germany, Austria, and Hungary as the empires were broken up.
Near civil war between town and country was a pervasive feature of this break-down in social order. Large mobs of half-starved and vindictive townsmen descended on villages to seize food from farmers accused of hoarding. The diary of one young woman described the scene at her cousin’s farm.
“In the cart I saw three slaughtered pigs. The cowshed was drenched in blood. One cow had been slaughtered where it stood and the meat torn from its bones. The monsters had slit the udder of the finest milch [milk] cow, so that she had to be put out of her misery immediately. In the granary, a rag soaked with petrol was still smouldering to show what these beasts had intended,” she wrote.
Grand pianos became a currency or sorts as pauperized members of the civil service elites traded the symbols of their old status for a sack of potatoes and a side of bacon. There is a harrowing moment when each middle-class families first starts to undertand that its gilt-edged securities and War Loan will never recover. Irreversible ruin lies ahead. Elderly couples gassed themselves in their apartments.
Foreigners with dollars, pounds, Swiss francs, or Czech crowns lived in opulence. They were hated. “Times made us cynical. Everybody saw an enemy in everybody else,” said Erna von Pustau, daughter of a Hamburg fish merchant.
Great numbers of people failed to see it coming. “My relations and friends were stupid. They didn’t understand what inflation meant. Our solicitors were no better. My mother’s bank manager gave her appalling advice,” said one well-connected woman.
There is NO WAY any of this can happen here, right? I mean, everything’s under control. ISN’T IT? I mean, our government KNOWS WHAT THEY’RE DOING, RIGHT?
Just tell me I can still buy food at the “SUPER MARKET” and everything will be all right. Won’t it?
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
8:09 pm
DUSTY
Fawning lines? Because I’m honest enough to say how I feel? I think if you go back over what I said that led into this, you’ll see that I am not in an a33 kissing mood on him tonight…he doesn’t bite the hand that feeds him and parrots the party line in the professional arena, but I HAVE seen and heard from him things that do tell me in his time off he is a regular guy…I mean, he hunts and fishes, drinks beer and probably scratches his b*lls when he thinks nobody’s looking and he probably pees in the kitchen sink when the Missus ain’t home…
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
8:12 pm
@@
Don’t let me make you nervous…there’s nothing quite so funny to me here as are the grammar and spelling police…even OREP (who makes ME nervous) makes his “errors…”
Doggone/GA
July 27th, 2010
8:12 pm
“You may wanna refer back to some of your own “true believers””
Well, I’m not stupid enough to claim I’ve read every entry, everywhere, about Obama…but HERE, I’ve never seen anyone come even close to calling him any kind of “messiah” – EXCEPT those on the “right”, who, supposedly, are against him and what he stands for. But yet…they STILL refer to him as “the Messiah” Seems more than a bit conflicted to ME.
@@
July 27th, 2010
8:13 pm
probably scratches his b*lls
My daughter’s boyfriend does a lot of that. I must say, it’s the only thing I don’t like about the guy.
popeye
July 27th, 2010
8:16 pm
Sinkwich…..”He’s a girly-man, fer sure.
Ever seen him throw a baseball
Yes, I’ve seen him throw a baseball, and I’ve also seen him shoot the lights out on a basketball court.
There used to be this guy…perhaps you’ve heard of him MICHAEL JORDAN…ring any bells. He tried out for baseball and could barely make the minor leagues.
But boy could he light up a basketball court.
Moral of the story…Shut up!
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
8:16 pm
Sooth
@ 8:08
That was an interesting post. It not only can happen here, it HAS happened here back after that little misunderstanding…but, ssshh, we’re not supposed to talk about that…
@@
July 27th, 2010
8:17 pm
Doggone:
For many on the right there’s only one Messiah.
The left has theirs and we have ours. Ergo the sarcasm. I always use a lower-case “m” when referring to your Obamessiah.
Del
July 27th, 2010
8:18 pm
AmVet,
Palin is no GWB. I like her as a person but I don’t believe she’ll become the Republican standard bearer in the 012 elections. While I think Bush was a good man with an agenda that drifted way off course for many conservatives like myself, Sarah Palin is far more conservative in her ideology. She just isn’t electable as a presidential candidate. At least not in the foreseeable future.
AmVet
July 27th, 2010
8:20 pm
josef, that is news to me, my fellow lexophile. But in a way, I’m a tad bummed. I do so love to make up interesting words and phrases like posse commode-atatis and Republiconned.
Dusters, you do have a unique gift. A kind of mastery of the specious and useless.
popeye, methinks Frank fancies himself a Heisman trophy winner…
@@
July 27th, 2010
8:22 pm
jay’s latest tweets.
Two on Sarah Palin, 4 hours ago and 5 hours ago. That’s one an hour.
I don’t know how those tweets work. I’m not a twit
terer
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
July 27th, 2010
8:27 pm
May I have the army boots? I want to give ‘em to RedNeck for his wife.
Well, Sister Dusty can kiss my grits. The missus never wears boots, just a pair of clodhoppers that she likes. And you don’t fool with a 335 lb. woman wearing a pair of clodhoppers.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
8:28 pm
@@
Not to be TOO graphic, but if you had ‘em, you’d know why we scratch ‘em…it’s a boy thing! ISH
As far as the use of the messiah on Obama…sorry, but that’s exactly the way he was treated during the campaign and he rode it like a donkey into Jerusalem on the Potomac…but I said then and I say now, wrong image, Shabbatai Zvi is more apt…
Soothsayer
July 27th, 2010
8:29 pm
The talk of recovery pervades insider thinking. The major media worldwide plays the same refrain. This is a desperate attempt to befuddle the public with misdirected propaganda to preserve confidence in a system that is in a state of collapse. As CNBC leads the charge, loss of faith in the system grows with each passing day. In spite of control of the major media by elitists, talk radio and the Internet hammers away incessantly with the truth influencing more and more 24/7 worldwide. As a result of the success of the alternative media a good many investors realize we have a systemic credit crisis that has turned into a debt crisis as well. The residential real estate collapse is still collapsing with no end in sight. That has been joined by a commercial credit crisis, which has forced banks, Wall Street and corporate America to keep two sets of books – Europe and England as well. We called the beginning of the top of the residential real estate in the summer of 2005, warning our subscribers it was time to begin to move out of real estate and to personally rent. We were the first to make that call as a few others followed six months or more later. The failure of Bear Stearns was soon followed by Lehman Bros., and a crisis of confidence was underway.
The immediate move was to save the banks, Wall Street, insurance and elitist corporate America. A number of programs were initiated, some of which are still in place. During the crisis worldwide a number of people began to accumulate cash. Some cash in hand, some in money market funds and some in gold and silver related assets. During this period lenders called loans and an unprecedented de-leveraging took place that affected every investment. As a result today such cash and cash like holdings are more than 50% higher than they were five years ago. The system is under pressure, and was it not for government deficit spending of $1.6 trillion and the infusion annually of some $2 trillion by the Federal Reserve the system would have long ago collapsed into deflationary depression.
Everything’s fine! Really, it is! Don’t worry, be happy! What’s on Entertainment Tonight, tonight?
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 27th, 2010
8:31 pm
Andruw Jones still sucks!
Just sayin…
md
July 27th, 2010
8:32 pm
Messiah?? More like Jim Jones if we keep going down this path……………
Scout
July 27th, 2010
8:32 pm
Doggone/GA:
“………. and there will be many false Christs (Messiahs)”
Scout
July 27th, 2010
8:33 pm
Let’s ligten it up a little …………..
BUMPER STICKERS :
Why is it called “Tourist Season” if you can’t shoot them ?
Guns kill people like spoons made Rosie O’Donnell fat.
What if the “Hokey Pokey” is all that it’s about ?
Don’t like cops? Next time you need one call a crackhead !
Men are idiots and I married their King !
PETA: People Eating Tasty Animals !
BioDiesel: Praise the Lard !
What Would Scooby Do ?
Officer: Please Don’t Taze Me !
I like poking dead things with a stick.
I see stupid people.
Guns Don’t Kill People. People With Mustaches Kill People.
Be nice to nerds. You’ll work for one.
Back Off! I’m a Scientist.
The only good clown is a dead clown.
Keep Honking ! I’m reloading !
@@
July 27th, 2010
8:34 pm
Shabbati Avi? A black pantheist?
Hush yo mouth!
Doggone/GA
July 27th, 2010
8:35 pm
“I always use a lower-case “m” when referring to your Obamessiah.”
See, there you go again. Referring to him as a messiah. Not me, I’ve never done that. But YOU do. Seems to me that YOUR count of “messiahs” is now up to at least 2, not 1 as you claim.
Doggone/GA
July 27th, 2010
8:38 pm
““………. and there will be many false Christs (Messiahs)””
Yep, and the right seems to have labeled at least one of them that no one else accepts. But boy, they DO like to refer to him as such. Can’t help it I guess, they’re just so desperate for someone, ANYone, to ease their fears that they’ll latch on to anyone in desperation.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
8:40 pm
AmVet
Rebubliconned violates the rules! Only words of Germanic origin may be compounded and each element (excluding prefixes and suffixes) must stand alone and have meaning.,.Romance lexical entries operate under a different set of rules, as do Hellenic elements. Elements from the two or more of the three may not be combined. That is according to the intrinsic rules of the English language. Republic-Romance , con as a verb is Germanic…now as an Engrish word…
AmVet
July 27th, 2010
8:41 pm
“I like her (Palin) as a person…”
Ditto, Del. And wrote as far back as 2008 that I believed she was a fine woman and a good American. I also averred that she was as qualified as Biden or anybody else to take her marching orders from the same corporate paymasters. And would do so unquestioningly.
And at first, I thought she was a shrewd choice. But after about watching her closely for about three or four weeks, I along, with most of America, said WHOA! GIANT RED FLAG!
Thank gawd.
Just like George, she clearly lacked any sigfnificant intellectual curiosity or acumen whatsoever. The woman was an embarrassment when it came to knowing even the basic knowledge that the Vice President of the United States must have already garnered and was ghastly unprepared for such high office. Especially given McCain’s advanced age.
And remember the nation had just watched such a person with the same obvious handicap actually get (s)elected in 2000 and again in 2004. How, I will never know.
And from the FWIW department, GWB was a disaster from the very get go. I have posted his ahem, “accomplishments”, in his first 100 days and it is a train wreck of such proportions BY ITSELF that, notwithstanding his numerous deadly industrial strength debacles that he wrought later, he was assured of ranking at the very bottom of all US presidents.
A calamitous disaster from the very beginning to very end.
@@
July 27th, 2010
8:41 pm
Doggone:
Of course you guys wouldn’t say it on a public forum. Did you go to one of his rallies? Was there a strange aura about the room? A piercing vibration? A tingle down your leg instead of up your leg. Chris Matthews’ goes up his leg.
good, Good, GOOD, good vibrations!!!!!!!!!1
I’m just methin’ wit’cha, Doggone.
AmVet
July 27th, 2010
8:44 pm
jonix at 8:40.
GOOD! I’m a rule breaker and proud of it. (Besides you’re just showing off now!) Grin.
Doggone/GA
July 27th, 2010
8:44 pm
“Of course you guys wouldn’t say it on a public forum”
Sounds like an unbelievable consensus of opinion from a group of “moonbats” don’t you think? That we silently, and without any sort of consultation, agreed to never, ever make any mention of “messiah”? yeah, right…
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
8:44 pm
“I like poking dead things with a stick.”
Me, too. Them and sleeping bears!
Del
July 27th, 2010
8:44 pm
“was it not for government deficit of $1.6 trillion and the infusion of some 2 trillion by the Federal Reserve the system would have collapsed into deflationary depression.”
You don’t even know what the hell you’re talking about, now do you. You just want to cut and paste from some far-left blog and pretend it’s your own astute observations. What a phony.
Southern Comfort
July 27th, 2010
8:47 pm
Geez, a brother leaves the blog for a few days and we have someone with single-personality, multiple-id disorder come in and start a little back and forth.
Jay puts up another Palin thread, and some on the right drag him thru the ringers over it, yet they don’t see how she’s getting free advertisement from the opposing side.
Obama’s the messiah, again… for the umpteenth time. I guess when he goes on The View on Thursday, he’s gonna bring a few pieces of bread and water with him onstage.
Meanwhile, the average American is still getting screwed by a political system that does not give a rat’s ass about his/her problems and is more concerned with Wall Street and investors. Not to worry, the middle class is much smaller than it was a few years ago. It shouldn’t be much longer before most if it is wiped out. Of course, building a shopping center with high-paying service jobs will take care of that.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
8:47 pm
AmVet
Well, I DO have to put that elite education to SOME use.
Say whatever else about George, he DID do an awful lot for public health in subsaharan Africa…more than any before or since…so he wasn’t a complete failure…
@@
July 27th, 2010
8:48 pm
Doggone:
Let me put it to you like this. If you had an ounce of sense, you wouldn’t even suggest it in public. I don’t know what the heck your talking “heads” were thinking when they dared to mouth…
it.
Scout
July 27th, 2010
8:51 pm
Doggone/GA:
If you will do the research I think the term “messiah” came to use by conservatives making fun of liberals and the way they followed him like blind lemmings …………..
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
8:52 pm
SoCo
Welcome back! Missed you…
Scout
July 27th, 2010
8:53 pm
josef:
My favorite was “I see stupid people” ………………
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
8:54 pm
Scout
Probably won’t be able to get to Romans tonight…grandbaby is still here and still full of chocolate so my attention span is a bit limited…
Alvin Greene for Senate in SC
July 27th, 2010
8:55 pm
Sarah Palin is supporting the candidate who isn’t running against me.
Scout
July 27th, 2010
8:55 pm
josef:
How about those Vermont gun laws !! Or should I say lack thereof !!!
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
8:56 pm
Scout
By the way, are Fred and today’s Harry one and the same? Harry got out before I could mention your name!!!
Alvin Greene for Senate in SC
July 27th, 2010
8:57 pm
Green Jobs will save America.
Del
July 27th, 2010
8:59 pm
The term “messiah”, or “The One” in referring to Obama, resulted from a fawning MSN as well as Obama’s narcissistic demeanor.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
8:59 pm
Scout
Vermont? What can you say about a state with highway signs that announce moose crossing? That and Ben and Jerry’s,,,mmmmm….but I wouldn’t cross ‘em too freely…
Alvin Greene for Senate in SC
July 27th, 2010
9:00 pm
Jim DaMint is a moron.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
9:01 pm
My Princess had a t-shirt that said, “I hear voices and they don’t like you!”
AmVet
July 27th, 2010
9:03 pm
jonix, eight years of disasters and that is about all the faithful can come up with as well.
Besides when looking closely at the details of this aid to HIV Africa it is not surprisingly, VERY mixed.
Here is a very good article on his Reaganesque propensity to aid and abet various African dictators and thugs.
It also pokes some pretty damn big holes in his AIDS efforts there. (Just being fair and balanced!)
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/25/opinion/main3873641.shtml
Del
July 27th, 2010
9:05 pm
Vermont is a beautiful state along with Maine and New Hampshire. We vacationed there last summer and enjoyed. Unfortunately, the folks up there in the North seem to get their politics screwed up but aside from that, they treated us very well.
AmVet
July 27th, 2010
9:05 pm
Ditto what jonix said, SoCO.
And very well said about the dwindling American “middle class”…
Dave R.
July 27th, 2010
9:09 pm
josef, did you not learn LAST NIGHT that grandbabies and chocolate do not go well together?
When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging!
Scout
July 27th, 2010
9:14 pm
josef:
Didn’t read Fred or Harry.
No problem on the Romans ……… Maybe this weekend.
My granddaughter just left ……………..
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I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 27th, 2010
9:15 pm
Programming Note To Our Station Affiliates-
Most of the nattering ninnies on this blog voted for obozo, the most egregious jackass in our nation’s long history, just sayin, perhaps you should take what they say with a grain of salt and even scoff at them when they whine about Republicans, know what I mean?
They are steady pouring salt into their own wounds, hahahahaha, I pray for you America.
We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.
Southern Comfort
July 27th, 2010
9:16 pm
josef
Just poking my head in for a min. It’s gettin’ near bedtime in these here parts. Just thought I’d peek in to see what was going on.
AmV
I kinda see the dwindling of the middle class like removing the spokes from your bicycle rims. Sure, it’s still a bike and they are still wheels, but without that middle group to keep things together, that bike ain’t goin’ nowhere fast!!
Hopefully, I’ll be able to catch up with y’all by the music thread this Friday. If not, just throw a track or two for me. I think MJ sums up my life pretty good right now:
You Got Me Workin’ Day And Night
And I’ll Be Workin’
From Sun Up To Midnight
You Got Me Workin’ Workin’ Day And Night
You Got Me Workin’ Workin’ Day And Night
You Got Me Workin’ Workin’ Day And Night
You Got Me Workin’ Workin’ Day And Night
Catch y’all later!!!
Scout
July 27th, 2010
9:17 pm
Note to Evangelical Christians:
Bulletin from Higher Up …………….
““And Jesus said, I must ascend to the Father now but whatever you do, don’t tell anyone about Me and PLEASE do not go into other parts of the world trying to spread the Gospel of eternal life. Just keep it SECRET. Don’t wear your Chrisitanity on your sleve or you might OFFEND someone. If others don’t know the truth of My word ……. just leave them in DARKNESS. The Devil likes that. YOU have eternal life ……. WHY share it with anyone else?”
Del
July 27th, 2010
9:18 pm
What will Jay put up as a topic tomorrow. Maybe bemoaning the demise of the “Disclose Act” with wise Democrats joining into its defeat. Taps…have a good night y’all.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 27th, 2010
9:24 pm
Aahh, Andruw homers but he still sucks!
md
July 27th, 2010
9:24 pm
“What will Jay put up as a topic tomorrow.”
With Palin out of the way for the week, I’m guessing it’s about time for GW. The dem push for cap and trade should be starting soon, and the media has it marching orders………..
md
July 27th, 2010
9:26 pm
AmVet @
July 27th, 2010
8:41 pm
That post hit home……many of us thought the same exact thing…….of Barry.
barking frog
July 27th, 2010
9:26 pm
Another bumper sticker credited to Ben Franklin; “There has never been a good
war or a bad piece.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
9:27 pm
AmVet
Am aware of the criticisms of Bush there…but the bottom line is that he did do it…
Dave…
Yeah, but even if it is wearing my tired old ass out, he’s having a ball and it’s good to have grandbabies to spoil rotten, let ‘em run wild, and send them home…as I tell their mamas and daddies, “payback! Ain’t it a b*tch!” (I’ll keep telling myself that until tomorrow p.m.!)
Del
Ditto on Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine and Upstate New York…
JacobLocke
July 27th, 2010
9:28 pm
Following the attacks of September 11, 2001, Americans became incredibly vocal against something called “Islamist Extremism” (see also Islamic Fundamentalism). Every American had an opinion about this new danger to America – everyone sounding off about how backwards Muslims were because of their religious zeal. Ahem. Pot, meet kettle.
Of course, hyporcicy knows no bounds in this great country of ours and Americans just love pointing out in others the very faults that make us suck so much. Really? Muslims are zealous? I’m not saying they aren’t, but I think it’s fair to say that, as far as religious fundamentalism goes, we’re probably tied for first with our friends in the Middle East. Abortion clinic bombings, hate crimes against homosexuals, the Klan, prejudices – all of these have roots in the engrained American Judaeo-Christian orthodoxy.
This has been the dominant religious, cultural and political paradigm in this country since the beginning. While folks in the 17th century may not have called it Judaeo-Christian, the fact remains they were following those practices, which are primarily based in the religious ideology of the Old Testament. Essentially, it is this: if you don’t follow the prescribed moral instruction of the Old Testament/Torah, you will be smote by God. Smiting most often comes in the form of some angry white dudes doing terrible things to you (and sometimes to your goat too).
The first example this kind of justice occurred in the latter half of the 17th century when colonists, disturbed by women speaking out of turn, decided to accuse these women of witchcraft and burn the miserable tarts at the stake. This particular group of witch-burning fundamentalists was led by Cotton Mather – the ideological great-great-great-great-grandfather of such fine, upstanding Americans as Joe McCarthy, Pat Robertson, Sean Hannity, and Newt Gingrich (and I’m pretty sure he’s the guy Ann Coulter prays to every night in front of an alter).
From there it snowballed – Native American genocide, slavery, anti-Chinese leagues, etc, etc, etc. In modern times, the good Judaeo-Christian men and women of America make sure that homosexuals, Muslims, Indians, atheists, communists, and everyone else who holds beliefs different from the American way are perfectly aware that they are NOT welcome. No, we’re not burning women en masse for witchcraft anymore, nor have we flown any planes into the cultural centers of any Islamic nations (er, wait a minute), but we do like to occasionally beat, maim, and murder homosexuals and tie them to fences. Shoot, yeah! God LOVES US!
Most Americans don’t want to hear such things. Afterall, America is the greatest nation in the free world. We can do NO wrong. God is on our side – heck, God blesses America (it’s in a song). Well, guess what. There are a lot of people halfway around the world who thinks God blesses them too. Guess we’ll know whom God loves more by who’s left standing.
JacobLocke
July 27th, 2010
9:28 pm
http://whyamericanssuck.blogspot.com/
Dusty
July 27th, 2010
9:29 pm
Excuse me if I don’t go with the flow. The Braves needed a little help and I had to be of assistance.. Not that it did much good!
But…otherwse..All is well! THE FRENCH HAVE DECLARED WAR ON AL QUIDA!!.. They are as mad as hornets from the president right on down. They have already attacked some terrorists in North Africa. Seems a nice 78 year old Frenchman, an aid worker, traveled afar to help some starving Africans. He was captured by al Quida and held. Then they killed him!!
I like the French. They know when to get mad!! Nothing like a French Foreign Legionaire!!
Go Lafayette!!!! Get those killers!! Go Braves!! Get those guys from Washington, the baseball players that is…..(and maybe a few others??)
Scout
July 27th, 2010
9:30 pm
PARIS — “France has declared war on al-Qaida, and matched its fighting words with a first attack on a base camp of the terror network’s North African branch, after the terror network killed a French aid worker it took hostage in April.”
Pepe Le Pew would be proud:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hBFEObtQdM
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
9:30 pm
What will Jay put up? You can bet it won’t be Monds…
Scout
July 27th, 2010
9:33 pm
“What will Jay put up” ?
Probably something “economic”. He’s big into that.
Doggone/GA
July 27th, 2010
9:34 pm
“If you had an ounce of sense, you wouldn’t even suggest it in public.”
Interesting take on it. So what does that say about those who DO refer to him in public as “the Messiah” – who appear, on this blog anyway, to be universally his OPPONENTS? Are they, too, lacking an “ounce of sense”?
My answer: yep, without a DOUBT
md
July 27th, 2010
9:34 pm
“There has never been a good
war or a bad piece.”
Probably should be “peace”, but since it works either way…………..
barking frog
July 27th, 2010
9:34 pm
@Scout: from your posts it would seem that only Christians can spend an eternity in hell
since they’re the only ones with eternal life.
Doggone/GA
July 27th, 2010
9:36 pm
“came to use by conservatives making fun of liberals and the way they followed him like blind lemmings …………..”
That’s the best you got? I think you’re completely wrong. That they are so desperate for a Messiah, ANY messiah, that they latched on to him…and are now scrambling for a way to deflect attention from their devotion. But they can’t help it, it still slips out.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 27th, 2010
9:36 pm
The tax benefit, worth as much as $8,000, spurred a 4.9 percent rise in sales last year, the first increase since 2005, according to the Chicago-based National Association of Realtors.
Even an idiot should be able to figure out that lower tax rates spur increased economic activity but, alas, most dummycrats haven’t reached the idiot level yet.
I wish I could say “give them time,” but then I would be a liar.
Can’t have that.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 27th, 2010
9:38 pm
kookman doesn’t even know what his next column will be about but the White House does, just sayin…
He’s just waiting on that call…
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
9:38 pm
Jacob
Well, while much of what you say may be true, the Judeo-Christian civilization did give us a lot on the positive side, too, like the rule by written law of the Hamurabbic-Abrahamic-Mosaic tradition and here in America we’ve been amazingly tolerant considering how heterogenous we are as a society…and don’t forget that at the same time they were dunking witches in New England, Carolina was offering “equal rights of citizenship to Jews, Heathens and Dissenters.” There’s two sides to the story…
Scout
July 27th, 2010
9:39 pm
Headline: “Chevy Volt Will Cost $41,000″
With a $7,500 Federal tax credit that’s $33,500. You can get a nice motor car for $20,000.
Do you realize how much gasoline you can buy for $13, 500 ??
Scout
July 27th, 2010
9:41 pm
barking frog :
Shhhhhh! You’re supposed to pretend we aren’t interested in you anymore.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
9:44 pm
Dusty and Scout
I best not go off on the French…I got into trouble for that last p.m. and besides, the Bruin thinks speaking French is elitist!
On the serious side, it’s about time they wake up an smell the cafe au lait…
JacobLocke
July 27th, 2010
9:44 pm
@josef nix – yeah, and the Nazis gave us some pretty remarkable advances in science …
Paulo977
July 27th, 2010
9:45 pm
Josef @ 7:42pm..re:”She is really US”
Collective consciousness?? Shudder!
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
9:46 pm
Jacob
The nazis were did not couch their ideologies in terms of relgion, but terms of race…and innovation that proved far more effective in an increasingly secular society…
barking frog
July 27th, 2010
9:47 pm
Palin-Bush 2012.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
9:47 pm
Paulo
“Shudder”
Oh, yes, and I DO!
AmVet
July 27th, 2010
9:48 pm
md, LOL!
There’s just one tiny little difference. It’s called reality.
Look, some day a long, long, long time from now, there will actually be many, many erstwhile Republicans with enough intellectual honesty who look back at the Bush administration and go yep, AmVet and all those other Americans were absolutely spot on correct. The Bush administration was a consummate clusterf&ck.
And during the not-so-glorious days of his Reign of Error, the neo-con movement, aka fake conservatism, went from travestic glory to a hellish nightmare of consecutive electoral slaughters. One so horrific, it will never be repeated and the next, almost as big an a–whooping.
So at least America can take pride in that one bright spot in an otherwise dreadful decade of GOP misgovernance and unparalleled fraud and corruption.
And Barry, though no consolation prize, and a Republican-lite in his own right, is nowhere remotely close (yet?) to matching the most serially impeachable administration in all of American history.
Just look it up, you’ll see. Bush will never, ever climb out of the bottom five presidents of all time.
(Don’t shoot the messenger.)
JacobLocke
July 27th, 2010
9:51 pm
Actually, Josef, they built their ideology on nationalism. Sound familiar?
barking frog
July 27th, 2010
9:52 pm
Scout 9:39; You’re being disloyal to Georgia Power.
Doggone/GA
July 27th, 2010
9:54 pm
“they built their ideology on nationalism. Sound familiar?”
It does indeed. It sounds JUST like those who came up with “homeland” (fatherland?) security.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
9:54 pm
AmVet
Love that Reign of Error!!! Still can’t go with you on the bottom five, though…bottom ten, no doubt…and you are right as rain on Bush Lite…i’m reminded of the line in Little Big Man when Chief Dan George says, “Oh, you mean the black white man…not as ugly, but every bit as crazy.” So be it with Obama and Bush, Obama’s policies are not as ugly, but every bit as crazy…
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
9:57 pm
i beg to differ. They did not build their ideology on nationalism, but on a racism which they couched for public consumption in nationalistic terms…the whole megillah was “Aryan” superiority and the Aryans were not a nation, but a race…
FinanceBuzz
July 27th, 2010
9:59 pm
I like Sarah Palin, but her endorsement will not encourage me to vote for moderate-at-best Karen Handel. We need true conservatives and that, Karen Handel is not. Nathan Deal has my vote and should Handel win the runoff, she will not get my vote in the general. I wouldn’t vote for Roy Barnes, so I would just skip that race on my ballot. After all, a Georgia Democrat is not nearly as distasteful as those hard-left Northeast liberals.
md
July 27th, 2010
9:59 pm
“And Barry, though no consolation prize, and a Republican-lite in his own right, is nowhere remotely close (yet?) to matching the most serially impeachable administration in all of American history.”
And I think that is where we differ, as Barry has allowed the far left to dictate to him vs the other way around. Republican-lite would not have passed such a screwed up hc bill, and wouldn’t even think about a crap and trade bill when the economy is in the tank.
And I haven’t even touched on the deficit, card check, credit card bill, finance bill etc that has businesses back on it’s heels waiting for the next shoe to fall.
Doggone/GA
July 27th, 2010
10:00 pm
“They did not build their ideology on nationalism, but on a racism which they couched for public consumption in nationalistic terms”
Or, as I would put it: racism was the reason, nationalism was the excuse
Scout
July 27th, 2010
10:06 pm
josef:
Like I’ve always said, if green Martians landed tonight and were eating the French alive, I wouldn’t lose a minute’s sleep.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
10:06 pm
Doggone
Again, I must disagree…nationalism was the metaphore at one level, but it did not at any juncture have the appeal…the nazis did not make war on the Slavic NATIONS but on the Slavic race…Jews and Gypsies were not slaughtered in the name of nationalism but in the name of racism…all you have to do is look at the occupation of and the conduct of the war against their fellow “Aryans”: versus even their policies in those non Aryan states politically aligned with them…
md
July 27th, 2010
10:06 pm
They built their ideology on the emotions of the times…..what the lemmings wanted to hear.
No different than any politician savvy in the art of bs.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
10:07 pm
Scout
now, now…if the Martians are nazis then I’m racially French!
JacobLocke
July 27th, 2010
10:08 pm
@Josef – it was founded on the principles laid down by Von Herder’s 18th century nationalistic ideas. The Nazis “fine-tuned” this vision into the idea that the Aryans were the true German people.
barking frog
July 27th, 2010
10:09 pm
scout 10;06; I believe the martians would have them fried.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
10:09 pm
md
I’m not so sure they built their ideologies as you suggest, but they certainly did their politics and as you say, “no different than any politician savvy in the art of bs.”
Doggone/GA
July 27th, 2010
10:10 pm
“nationalism was the metaphore at one level, but it did not at any juncture have the appeal”
That’s why I label it an excuse. It was just something to say to mask the true reason: racism
Dusty
July 27th, 2010
10:12 pm
Oh oh, I”m singing,,,,Allons enfant de la patrie…Les jour de gloire est arrive’!!!
I believe the French feel really really good that their government thinks enough of one of their citizens to go to war and fight the killers. Cowardly killers at that, killing a seventy eight year old aid worker! The French would not stand idly by. Viva la France!
Good to see the French supporting their military and their citizens.. Perhaps Bookman’s topic tomorrow will spotlight the tepid support Americans are giving to our military. That is so politically correct to be tepid these days. But Bookman would not breach the protocol.. It might sound so….well…you know….shh,,,patriotic!!
md
July 27th, 2010
10:15 pm
Jo,
You are correct, the savvy leaders already had their “ideology”, they spread it through the art of bs. Still no different than today’s “leaders”.
Chavez is a perfect example – an elected dictator. It can and more than likely will happen again.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
10:15 pm
Jacob
Von Herder had his influence, no doubt, as did Nietzsche and Wagner…but the novelty, for lack of a better word, was the “scientific” and the codification of that into law…
Scout
July 27th, 2010
10:19 pm
barking frog:
saute’ed
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
10:19 pm
Doggone
I can see your point, but that “mask” was dropped with the Nurnberg Laws of 1935…
md
It is why i only in half jest refer to the present as Jacobins…if anyone doubts that, what else would the Sherrod case be?
JacobLocke
July 27th, 2010
10:19 pm
@Josef – Well, who’s to say these “patriots” we call the Tea Party aren’t moving us in the same direction?
Scout
July 27th, 2010
10:20 pm
josef:
If the French are going to get involved they had better use the Foreign Legion.
They are the only ones who can fight.
Ryan
July 27th, 2010
10:21 pm
Jay, are you honestly comparing NH to GA? Much more conservative here than up north and you know that. A Palin endorsement in the North is like an Obama endorsement here in GA. Of course the number is gonna be off! BRING IT ON!
Scout
July 27th, 2010
10:29 pm
Has anyone heard anything about the “two year” compulsory civilian service act for young adults that Obama is supposedly pushing (including a draft in time of war) ?
Dusty
July 27th, 2010
10:32 pm
Ah well, the hour is late. Tomorrow I shall have French toast for breakfast. In the meantime, a toast to the FRENCH!!!…Allons enfant de la patrie la la …Bonne nuit, mon amies!!
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
10:34 pm
Jacob
I won’t go so far as to accuse the tea party per se of such, but their amorphous discontent certainly provides an opening for such to coopt…also, I would refrain from the use of patriotism, I would prefer the term jingoism. Patriotism is a love of the land of one’s birth and/or identification and is open to all…jingoism is the narrow, political end of the spectrum…
AmVet
July 27th, 2010
10:35 pm
md, it is funny how some see BHO as a liberal, yet his record is anything but.
AmVet
July 27th, 2010
10:35 pm
No Scout. What’s the skinny? And do you support such an initiative?
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
10:39 pm
Scout
Don’t count out the French Underground…talk about taking care of bidness…!
And no, I hadn’t heard of the Obama plan for two years national service…the details are another matter, but in theory I’m all for it…
JacobLocke
July 27th, 2010
10:44 pm
Josef – yeah, that’s kind of why I put patriots in ” “
Mick
July 27th, 2010
10:47 pm
Scout
How much gas can you buy for $13,500? Well, if you have a 20 gallon tank and gas @ $2.75 that would get you approx 4,909 gallons of gas which would leave you with about 245 fill-ups or get you to 98,000 miles then your electric battery will probably be dead. Cost effective? Not at that price.
Dusty
July 27th, 2010
10:52 pm
Well, Josef,
on my way out
Jingo bells, jingo bells…..may the French show us how to have a bit more jingoism. The tea partiers are more like early patriots who protested the “rule” of government that seemingly ignored the voice of the people.
It may be why Palin is so popular. She seems to hear and know what the people are saying. She agrees that values matter. that families matter. that character matters. that hard work matters.. You may not like the comparison but she reminds me of Truman. He only finished high school but he had the qualities of a leader. So does Sarah Palin.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
10:53 pm
Jacob
I missed that on the first read, thanks for pointing it out. I appreciate that distinction. To me, no small amount of damage has been done by those who cannot or will not distinguish between patriotism and jingoism…I think that is much what was at work in my mind when I first responded to you tonight…we, and I readily will include self here, often do not draw the distinction between the religion/philsophy and those who have coopted it for their goals which are anything but…sadly, we lack the vocabulary to do this as clearly as we can with the distinction between patriot and jingoist…
Dusty
July 27th, 2010
10:55 pm
Yeah, BHO is a liberal yet his record is anything but …but,,,but….but…but…but,,,,,,,,,,,,
RW-(the original)
July 27th, 2010
10:56 pm
I would say that Obama is pretty liberal in domestic policy and his foreign policy could only be described as clueless.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
11:01 pm
Dusty
Nous n’avons pas de besoin de jingoisme…patriotisme, possiblement…et je ne suis pas d’accord que la Madame Palin est une Truman…je ne crois pas qu’elle est une lidere, une “queen maker?” Ouais…quelle qu’une que je me sens que je connais? Ouais. Qu’elle qu’une avec qui j’aimerai boire une bierre? Ouais. Mais, une lidere, non…..
Mick
July 27th, 2010
11:03 pm
Dusty – that would make a very nice tv commercial in favor of palin. However, there really is not a great connect with the people. Mccain put her on the map and if he did not, no one would really care much about her. Once she arrived, she was the flavor of the month. As soon as she started talking, the gig was up. Screechy voice, not very bright about new ideas, just parrots conservative talking points. Finally, she has no qualities as a leader – she quit. Make every excuse in the book for that but winners make it happen, losers let it happen..
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
11:04 pm
RW
@ 10:58
I would agree to a point…I think his domestic policy is wishy-washy. But I agree that his foreign policy is clueless…
RW-(the original)
July 27th, 2010
11:07 pm
josef,
Keep in mind that you use the classical definition of liberal and I use the evolved one.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
11:11 pm
RW
Which is why I wish a lot of people calling themselves liberals would call themselves progressives…not that there’s anything wrong with that, as Seinfeld would say…but they’re NOT liberals, just like so many using the term conservative are NOT conservatives…
RW-(the original)
July 27th, 2010
11:17 pm
josef,
The progressives that called themselves liberals after progressive became a bad thing started calling themselves progressives after enough time passed and liberal became a bad thing. Now they laughably call themselves independents for the most part.
RW-(the original)
July 27th, 2010
11:23 pm
Just caught some of the O’Reilly Factor which is actually watchable when Laura Ingraham is guest hosting. I’ve got to say that I have the utmost respect for Dennis Kucinich. He may be a moonbat of the first order but he says what he truly believes and he’s not afraid to go Fox News to say it.
md
July 27th, 2010
11:25 pm
“md, it is funny how some see BHO as a liberal, yet his record is anything but.”
You must be looking at the wrong record………………
md
July 27th, 2010
11:28 pm
“The progressives that called themselves liberals after progressive became a bad thing started calling themselves progressives after enough time passed and liberal became a bad thing. Now they laughably call themselves independents for the most part.”
Now hold on a minute……..don’t be poisoning the independent well with all those leftys.
Scout
July 27th, 2010
11:28 pm
AmVet:
Re: Draft/Compulsory Civilian Service
Here’s the article: http://indyposted.com/35036/h-r-5741-mandatory-service-bill-being-debated/
Yes and No
1) I do not support any kind of “civilian compulsory service” as I see that as “involuntary servitude”.
2) I support the military draft only if women are also drafted (you know – equal rights and all).
This is also “involuntary servitude” but the Supreme Court has ruled it is Constutional because the “state” has the right to exist/protect itself.
Mick
July 27th, 2010
11:28 pm
RW-(the original)
Dennis Kucinich is truly a man who cares about the people. It’s a shame he kinda looks like moe howard, that could never be helpful for a politician on the national level. He has fought for the people in his district and state, he is what the democratic party should be.
Mick
July 27th, 2010
11:30 pm
md
**Now hold on a minute……..don’t be poisoning the independent well with all those leftys.**
I guess you’re not as middle of the road as you pretend to be.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
11:30 pm
RW
I, on the other hand, am a true liberal…
“John Stuart Mill of his own free will
On a ‘alf a pint of shandy was particularly ill…”
Seriously, though, many of those calling themselves liberals haven’t the vaguest notion of what free will means…all for the “right,” but never for the “responsibility…”
md
July 27th, 2010
11:31 pm
What the democratic party should be was recently driven out but what the democratic party is…….what a shame.
md
July 27th, 2010
11:33 pm
“I guess you’re not as middle of the road as you pretend to be.”
I tend to lean right, but see many things on the left.
Lefty’s, on the other hand, only see left.
Mick
July 27th, 2010
11:34 pm
**what the democratic party is…….what a shame.**
Agreed. However what the republican party has become is an abomination to common sense and decency.
Mick
July 27th, 2010
11:35 pm
**Lefty’s, on the other hand, only see left.**
Disagree. That’s a generalization, cannot be proven.
Scout
July 27th, 2010
11:35 pm
Well, I always just stick with the “Word” ……………………..
Ecclesiastes 10:2
“The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
11:36 pm
md
Whoah… I’m a LEFT liberal…we’ve got our centrists, too and, gasp, even some right liberals!
Kucinich
Now THERE’s an independent!
md
July 27th, 2010
11:36 pm
“Seriously, though, many of those calling themselves liberals haven’t the vaguest notion of what free will means…all for the “right,” but never for the “responsibility…””
And what is “liberal” these days?? Many will say it stands for the lack of responsibility – instead of Big Brother, they want Big Mother to make it better……………for ever and ever.
Actions DO have consequences, but many don’t want to hear that………….
Sarah Palin as de Niro in Cape Fear
July 27th, 2010
11:37 pm
I’m better than youuuuuu
I can out field dress a moose youuuuuu
I can out birth youuuuuu
I can out launch the nuclear codes to send us to End of Days youuuuu
And I can out endorse youuuuuuu, ’cause I’m better than youuuuuu
md
July 27th, 2010
11:43 pm
“Agreed. However what the republican party has become is an abomination to common sense and decency.”
Well, there is a reason I vote with an (I) beside my name. Neither party represents me, therefore I represent neither party. I’ve had my days in both, and “seen the light”.
Mick
July 27th, 2010
11:43 pm
scout @11:35
False prophecy.
Scout
July 27th, 2010
11:43 pm
All I know is that those “Obama Stickers” are pretty scarce around here now.
As Jerry Lee would say, “A whole lot a scrapin goin on!” “Scrape baby scrape!”
Scout
July 27th, 2010
11:43 pm
Mick:
Only if it’s not true …………….
Mick
July 27th, 2010
11:46 pm
md
Yeah – you see the light to the right. Just remember, “deficits don’t matter”, yes I believe I agree with that.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
11:46 pm
md
Many so called liberals, just the same as many so called conservatives, don’t want to think for themselves, they want a memo. On both “sides,” as you say, the concept of consequences is alien. That would require thought…
Scout
July 27th, 2010
11:47 pm
Libs. !
You can always order one of these !!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=201pgTaEseQ
Mick
July 27th, 2010
11:48 pm
scout
It may be true to you but using that quote in your context is pretty close to blasphemy. “They make themselves god”.
AmVet
July 27th, 2010
11:50 pm
md, IF as you claim , BHO is such a liberal, why did he keep Bush’s Gitmo open? Why did he surge into Bush’s Afghanistan? Why hasn’t he brought back the boys from Bush’s Iraq? Why has he kept Bush’s fascistic suspension of habeus corpus in place? Why hasn’t he implemented widespread prosecutions of the banksters, casino capitalists and other wall Street criminals who were ultimately empowered and given free reign by Bush?
No, jonix and I are correct. In many,many ways, he is sadly just a younger, half-black George Bush. And the cons absolutely hate that.
Especially as they foolishly fell for that tripe that Bush and Gang were conservatives. Laughable! But shameless, they cannot bring themselves to admit they were royally duped. And even in hindsight most of the “base” cannot see that they were anything but conservative. And vis a vis BHO, it is patently obvious now, just as then, they can no more correctly assess a politician than can a young child…
Mick
July 27th, 2010
11:53 pm
scout
Watched that sophomoric video, that guy is a dyck!! Let’s see, who was the last president that was sooo disgraced that he was not allowed to attend his parties presidential nominating convention? Here’s a hint – w.
md
July 27th, 2010
11:55 pm
Jo,
It is always easier to blame others than it is to blame oneself………..
Mick,
As I’ve said, depends on the issue. Fiscally conservative but do believe in taking care of those that can’t care for themselves. (not much sympathy for those that choose not to care for themselves) Personal choices without gov’t intervention.
We choose everything we do……everything we do has consequences………own up to one’s choices………….
RW-(the original)
July 27th, 2010
11:56 pm
Well, there is a reason I vote with an (I) beside my name
md,
That’s one thing I love about the system in Georgia. We don’t have to register as any party and can vote in whatever primary we want without having to do a party ID change.
amvet,
As you well know, but insist on pretending otherwise, the biggest complaint the conservatives had on these pages was that GWB wasn’t a conservative at all.
Mick
July 27th, 2010
11:57 pm
md, scout
Just having some fun with you. You both have always been civil about these exchanges and I thank you for it.
amvet
Hope your florida trip was gangbusters..
md
July 28th, 2010
12:00 am
Well Am, that is all part of the “clueless” foreign policy……….
Now explain hc, union deals, special bankruptcy treatment, credit card bill, finance reform, crap and trade, stimulus chock full of every dem pork project sitting in DC for years waiting for release………..
Don't forget
July 28th, 2010
12:01 am
Palin is like a hot house orchid. Take her out of her preferred environment and she’ll wilt before your eyes.
Scout
July 28th, 2010
12:12 am
Mick
10-4 Good Buddy !
Scout
July 28th, 2010
12:13 am
TAPS !
“And so he bowed.”
josef nix
July 28th, 2010
12:13 am
Well, it’s time to take the responsibility for liberally loading the lil bastid up on chocolate and say night-night prayers…”and G-d bless Uncle Harry and his roommate Jack who we’re not supposed to talk about…”
So, as Mr. Skelton would say, “G’night and G-d bless!”
A CONSERVATIVE
July 28th, 2010
5:03 am
JAY……I CAN NOT REALLY SEE WHY YOU WOULD CARE….I really…really don’t..
A CONSERVATIVE
July 28th, 2010
5:03 am
JAY……I CAN NOT REALLY SEE WHY YOU WOULD CARE….I really…really don’t..
A CONSERVATIVE
July 28th, 2010
5:07 am
SARCASTIC COMMENTS FROM IDIOT LEFT-WING BLOGGERS IS LAUGHABLE…LIBERAL ALWAYS MADE JOKES ABOUT THE GIPPER TOO…SARCASTIC LIBERALs will telegraph to you who they fear the most
A CONSERVATIVE
July 28th, 2010
5:31 am
JAY…..YOUR ANALYSIS IS SEVERELY FLAWED….YOU JUST DON’T like conservative, attractive women….JANE FONDA IS MORE YOUR TYPE…..a left-wing FIREBRAND..
USinUK
July 28th, 2010
5:41 am
decaf, conservative … decaf.
(or at least lay off the crack so early in the morning)
A LUNATIC
July 28th, 2010
6:11 am
JAY…. YOUR SUCHA LOOSER… NOT A REALMERKIN… WE REALMERKINS ALL MISS BUSH… HIS ENDORSEMENT MATTERS… NOT BACROCK BIN OSAMA..
USinUK
July 28th, 2010
6:26 am
Lunatic –
– I believe RealMerkin is registered with the GOP – you might need to include a (TM) after it!!
Saul Good
July 28th, 2010
6:32 am
Perhaps A CONSERVATIVE thought those little white powdery rocks were sugar when putting them into his coffee. It’s okay…all hyper, doped up, and slipping away from reality is exactly the way the Tea Party likes their faithful followers.
USinUK
July 28th, 2010
6:36 am
g’morning Saul!
well, when all you got is nuttin, buy ad time on a billboard …
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/07/27/freedom_billboards_of_texas/index.html
Saul Good
July 28th, 2010
6:53 am
Mornin’ USinUK… never saw that one… still always loving the Birth Certificate ones that Joseph Farah from World Net Daily has made hundreds of thousands of dollars in profit off of (he being a “good christian” and all)…
K…dogs are hungry….might as well feed them early and get it out of the way!
stands for decibels
July 28th, 2010
7:14 am
mornin’.
I believe RealMerkin is registered with the GOP
As is this guy…
http://www.ntoddblog.org/photos/atriots/merkinpatriote.html
USinUK
July 28th, 2010
7:17 am
dB – (snert)
don’t forget about these phine pholks …
http://www.minnesotaindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/000638.jpg
@@
July 28th, 2010
7:21 am
Good morning, ladies.
And who, this fine morning, is the target of your “affections” errrr
obsessions?
Schnirt…
Off to the track.
Normal
July 28th, 2010
7:23 am
Morning, all y’all…. Not in the best of moods this AM. Pain sucks!
Reading about Palin, both by admirers and detractors, is fun. All I can say is
her mantra must be, “When the going gets tough, the tough quit their jobs, leave Alaska, get an agent, write a book, join the talk show parade and make a million dollars exploiting white, conservative, middle American’s fears…”
USinUK
July 28th, 2010
7:26 am
@@ – well, we’re just flattered to be the subject of yours.
no. really.
@@
July 28th, 2010
7:27 am
Oooooo, something tasty before I go:
In the last fortnight: 1) The NAACP called the tea party racists; 2) Andrew Breitbart called the NAACP racist; 3) Shirley Sherrod called Republican opponents of Obamacare racists; 4) Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack called Shirley Sherrod racist; 5) many in mainstream media called Andrew Breitbart racist; 6) Howard Dean called Fox racist; and, 7) it was revealed that liberal journalist Spencer Ackerman proposed calling Fred Barnes and Karl Rove racist.
Thus, through a confluence of bizarrely unlikely events, the vicious act of falsely accusing people of racism became a laughing stock. It went from being a career killer to a punch line; from villainy to vaudeville; from knife in the back to pie in the face.–Tony Blankley
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
Saul Good
July 28th, 2010
7:27 am
“When the going gets tough, the tough quit their jobs, leave Alaska, get an agent, write a book, join the talk show parade and make a million dollars exploiting white, conservative, middle American’s fears…”
Fears? You mean like teaching your kids about Safe Sex and using Birth Control so they don’t become pregnant while still in HS? Even better… exploiting your own child and making her the poster-child of Abstinence Only Sex Education who you also send out with your blessings onto the speech for money circuit?
I’m just waiting to see which one of her kids comes out of the closet first?
K…off for a run!
USinUK
July 28th, 2010
7:29 am
Normal – hey boo-boo … sorry your injuries are playing up – Advil cures everything!
As far as Palin goes – “just when you thought the bar couldn’t get any lower … you betcha”
Doggone/GA
July 28th, 2010
7:31 am
“Pain sucks!”
Yep, no doubt. Try this: try humming up and down the scale until you hit a note that makes your painful area “vibrate” – then keep humming that note. It won’t make the pain disappear, but it will help to ease it. I used to use that technique on migraines
Donovan
July 28th, 2010
7:32 am
The PPP? Sounds to me that this newbee might be a liberal polling group. Nevertheless, the Dems cannot get past the mighty Palin enchantment. Like I have said before, when someone or something threatens the Democrat agenda, character assassination is not far behind. Go Sarah!
Normal
July 28th, 2010
7:37 am
Gotta hand it to Sarah though. She may never hold public office again, but she IS laughing all the way to the bank…thanks to the gullibles who believe her. She couldn’t do any better if her name was Venus Teal and pole danced. Of course this is my opinion and in no way reflects or assumes that this is the opinion of Jay…
USinUK,
Advil? Nah…Oxycodene…
USinUK
July 28th, 2010
7:40 am
Normal – Oxycodene? be careful … we don’t want you to go Full Rushbo on us.
stands for decibels
July 28th, 2010
7:42 am
The PPP? Sounds to me that this newbee
They’ve been around since 2001.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Policy_Polling
If they’re “noobs” then Rassmussen (founded in 2003) must still be in the embryonic stage.
Normal
July 28th, 2010
7:43 am
USinUK,
Thanks,
I just cut them in half and use them to take the edge off. I once hurt myself worse being fully medicated for pain. Lesson learned for me.
TaxPayer
July 28th, 2010
7:43 am
By the way, does anyone know how Sister Sarah’s Gwinnett charity events turned out and how much of the proceeds she gave over to charity versus keeping for herself. I noticed that she promoted herself as a person who served as governor of Alaska from 2006 until 2009. That just doesn’t seem to do her “quitting” proper justice.
USinUK
July 28th, 2010
7:45 am
dB – 7:42 – personally, I love how Donovan starts his post by denigrating something with which he disagrees – then follows it up with “when someone or something threatens the Democrat agenda, character assassination is not far behind”
Irony. It’s what’s for breakfast.
Normal
July 28th, 2010
7:50 am
“There’s a sucker born every minute”
P.T. Barnum
“You betcha”
Sarah Palin
stands for decibels
July 28th, 2010
7:54 am
Irony. It’s what’s for breakfast.
More like projection (see also that “Messiah” discussion upthread, if you can stomach it) but, whatever.
stands for decibels
July 28th, 2010
7:58 am
apropos of nothing, I felt strangely compelled to google “Tony Wankley” and came up with a story containing this priceless image.
Doggone/GA
July 28th, 2010
8:00 am
“(see also that “Messiah” discussion upthread, if you can stomach it)”
Yeah, no kidding. I just love it when “liberals” or “lefties” are called “godless” in dicussions that revolve around religion…but at the same time ALSO get accused of some kind of “messiah” complex about Obama. Is it even possible for “godless” people to accept a “messiah”?
TaxPayer
July 28th, 2010
8:04 am
Looks like Pity Party Polling last night to me.
barking frog
July 28th, 2010
8:05 am
A Palin endorsement is probably not worth the moose hide it’s written on.
Palin-Bush anytime.
USinUK
July 28th, 2010
8:06 am
dB – “also that “Messiah” discussion upthread, if you can stomach it”
just sitting down for lunch …
USinUK
July 28th, 2010
8:09 am
Doggone – these are the same people who don’t understand the difference between religionless-ness and godlessness …
stands for decibels
July 28th, 2010
8:13 am
Is it even possible for “godless” people to accept a “messiah”?
Well sure, in the eyes of people looking to save souls; they likely figure we unrepentant sinners/skeptics/suchlike are vulnerable to being drawn to false messiahs.
(As opposed to legitimate prophets, like Sarah Palin, George W. Bush, and Ronald Reagan, who were sent by God to keep us proles from getting too uppity.)
I’m not being entirely snarky here: I actually understand their concern. They’re wrong; but they’re not entirely illogical, within the confines of a well-regulated belief system..
Doggone/GA
July 28th, 2010
8:16 am
“these are the same people who don’t understand the difference between religionless-ness and godlessness ”
yep, I have noticed that
Doggone/GA
July 28th, 2010
8:17 am
sfd – good points. If only they would stick to their beliefs and stop trying to mind-read others.
USinUK
July 28th, 2010
8:21 am
dB – 8:13 – don’t know if you’ve been following the McBeatdown of McMegan McCardle … but your “proles” comment reminded me of the best analysis of her attack on Elizabeth Warren
“Is this the sound of the proletariat seizing the means of production? Comrades: rise up and plan your monthly budget in a smarter way!”
http://rortybomb.wordpress.com/2010/07/27/megan-mcardles-hack-post-on-elizabeth-warrens-scholarship/
larry
July 28th, 2010
8:26 am
Looks like the Feds are wanting to give Nathan the real deal.
http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-politics-elections/federal-grand-jury-sought-579989.html
Normal
July 28th, 2010
8:28 am
nybody see this yet?
http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-politics-elections/new-council-could-make-579990.html
USinUK
July 28th, 2010
8:29 am
“The AJC reported in August 2009 that Deal personally intervened with Graham and other state leaders to protect an obscure state program that earned his company nearly $300,000 a year. ”
holy crap.
stands for decibels
July 28th, 2010
8:30 am
“these are the same people who don’t understand the difference between religionless-ness and godlessness ”
Well, they also have difficulty with the opposite, which is that there are plenty of devout people of organized religious faith who do not have an activist God-with-a-capital-G poking His nose into everyone’s personal nooks and crannies.
I mean, sheesh. What are the Buddhists, chopped liver? There are somewhere between a quarter- and half-billion of them on the planet, fercryinoutloud.
@@
July 28th, 2010
8:30 am
Before I do my laps in the pool, just wanted to let you ladies know that you’re reading a whole lot more into the “messiah” discussion than was actually there.
Women’s need for emotional support. Never could understand that one.
Don’t forget to wipe the dribble from your chins…..the tears from your eyes.
USinUK
July 28th, 2010
8:32 am
Normal – ’bout damned time.
feds need to do the same.
throw EVERYthing on the table … restructure … simplify
unfortunately, they can’t do it in Cheney’s “undisclosed location” and remain untainted by lobbying …
USinUK
July 28th, 2010
8:35 am
“just wanted to let you ladies know ”
people – particularly women – calling men “ladies” as a derogatory … that must take some spectacular kind of self-loathing
stands for decibels
July 28th, 2010
8:36 am
don’t know if you’ve been following the McBeatdown of McMegan McCardle …
hasn’t really been on my radar, looks like there’s comedy gold in them thar hills.
(but still… at first blush, it seems kinda like work to get too worked up about Atlantic columnists. Guess you have to have been following this for awhile to appreciate it.)
and speaking of work, more concentrated food-on-fambly time awaits. Later, all.
USinUK
July 28th, 2010
8:36 am
dB – “What are the Buddhists, chopped liver?”
given their beliefs, that would be a definite “no”
Dave R.
July 28th, 2010
8:42 am
“If only they would stick to their beliefs and stop trying to mind-read others.”
Why not? It’s such an easy read and doesn’t take very long to do.
Saul Good
July 28th, 2010
8:44 am
dB – “What are the Buddhists, chopped liver?”
given their beliefs, that would be a definite “no”
Wholefoods sometimes sells Vegetarian Chopped Liver (mostly during Jewish holidays)… anyway….that could work for Buddhists… most of all the one’s who converted from Judaism and still have that “acquired taste”…
Saul Good
July 28th, 2010
8:45 am
“Why not? It’s such an easy read and doesn’t take very long to do.”
Oops…for a second I thought you were talking about the book that Sarah “wrote”… yeah..she WROTE it all right… with crayons.
Normal
July 28th, 2010
8:46 am
@@,
…Doing laps in your pool…
Maybe it’s the oxy, but that phrase made me flash back to GooseCreek S.C., 1981.
I was stationed at Charleston Naval Base and had just bought a house. There was a really cute neighbor who, every morning, would take a swim in her pool. She has a cantelope sized rear end and grapefruit breasts partially covered by the minumum cloth modesty would bear. She would stand on her tip toes, arch her back and wave at me, then dive in the pool. At that time I would go in and ravish my wife (Granny always said it don’t matter where you get your appitite, so long as you eat at home).
Anyway one morning, she dived in then came up screaming. I vaulted two fences to get to her yard and saw her in the corner of the deep end facing a gator around eight feet long and swiming toward her. I grabbed her and pulled her up and out. We called the fire department (they handled that sort of thing) and they got the gator out.
That was the last of the daily morning show for me though. She had the pool filled and planted with roses, I think. Damn gator!
Anyway, thought I’d share that…have a great swim…
finn mccool
July 28th, 2010
8:47 am
Where’s ma tux cut, jay? Ma left front quarter panel needs a new coat of gray primer!
Dave R.
July 28th, 2010
8:55 am
Completely off topic, but on a thread this old, so what:
Have you been reading about the hoopla surrounding the now senior senator from Massachusetts, John Forbes Kerry, and his $7 million yacht and his dodging of taxes in Mass.? Seems he’s tried to avoid paying both excise taxes in his town and state taxes of almost $500k for luxury goods by mooring his New Zealand-built (what’s the matter, John, U.S. manufacturers not good enough for you?) 70-foot “Isabel” in neighboring Rhode Island, where they have no taxes on luxury items such a yachts.
After he tried to throw trust-fund wife Theresa Heinz under the bus for being the owner, he finally agreed to pay up the owed taxes.
But the more interesting thing is what Howie Carr of the Boston Herald wrote regarding the luxury boating industry thriving in Rhode Island, largely due to a favorable TAX policy. He writes:
“At least for the maritime industry, Rhode Island has embraced trickle-down economics. As a friend of mine who knows a lot about boats says, Rhode Island’s no-tax policy “has encouraged the development of a marine industry that earnestly caters to yachts and commercial vessels, centered around the Town of Middleton on the western shore of Narragansett Bay… sail makers, caterers (sailors have to eat) marine mechanics, radio-servicing companies and the like….
“Mass. has a few good yacht marinas, like McDougall’s down in Hyannis, but these businesses are few and far between… Were I Kerry, I would never be able to find the quantity or quality of marine professionals in Massachusetts that are available in Rhode Island. This is pure Reaganomics – a great economy that is a direct result of a sound and easy taxing policy.”
Imagine Kerry coming clean and explaining that indisputable truth – that Rhode Island’s maritime industry has forged ahead of Massachusetts’ because they’ve rejected his – and his party’s – crackpot confiscatory tax policies, at least for one industry.”
As Carr so aptly writes: “Why the long face, Sen. Kerry?”
TaxPayer
July 28th, 2010
8:58 am
people – particularly women – calling men “ladies” as a derogatory … that must take some spectacular kind of self-loathing
Well, she is a Republican.
USinUK
July 28th, 2010
9:03 am
taxpayer – like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders. s’all I’m sayin.
Saul Good
July 28th, 2010
9:04 am
http://www.ajc.com/news/soccer-mom-burglar-makes-580059.html
Sarah?!
John Kerry
July 28th, 2010
9:04 am
Who among us has not defecated bigger than Howie Carr?
Saul Good
July 28th, 2010
9:07 am
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-bargain-hunter/2010/07/13/back-to-school-shopping-goes-on-without-georgias-sales-tax-free-holiday/
I thought the REPUBLICANS (who control this Red State) are all about “lowering” taxes?
What about the “trickle down” effect it would have had for all the businesses in the state? All that extra cash the companies could have used with increased sales? Nope…
Seems to me some Republicans in GA let some “tax cuts” expire….
jt
July 28th, 2010
9:07 am
Normal
I call BS on your 8:46.
Sorry.
It’s the contin talking.
As ya’ll were.
Bosch
July 28th, 2010
9:42 am
“Have you been reading about the hoopla surrounding the now senior senator from Massachusetts, John Forbes Kerry, and his $7 million yacht and his dodging of taxes in Mass.?”
No, I haven’t because, really, who gives a crap?