In NH, Palin’s endorsement a boon in primary, a risk in the general
Kelly Ayotte, former NH attorney general and now candidate for the U.S. Senate
Like Karen Handel here in Georgia, Republican Kelly Ayotte of New Hampshire has been endorsed as a “Mama Grizzly” by Sarah Palin in Ayotte’s campaign for the GOP Senate nomination.
That endorsement is likely to help Ayotte considerably in the primary, according to a new poll by Public Policy Polling. In their survey conducted July 23-25, 48 percent of New Hampshire conservatives said they would be more likely to vote for a candidate endorsed by Palin, while 18 percent said a Palin endorsement would be a turnoff.
Last week, I questioned how much credit Palin should be given for pushing Handel to her first-place finish in the Republican gubernatorial primary here in Georgia (Handel still faces an Aug. 10 runoff with Nathan Deal.) The polling results out of New Hampshire suggest that I might have been mistaken — Palin may indeed have been a difference maker.
However, if you dig a little deeper into the PPP crosstabs, you find that Palin’s endorsement cuts both ways. Overall, 51 percent of NH voters say that a Palin endorsement would make them less likely to vote for a candidate, while just 26 percent say a Palin endorsement would make them more supportive. Among self-described NH moderates, just 14 percent see a Palin endorsement as positive, while 65 percent see it as a problem. And according to PPP, moderates make up 47 percent of the NH electorate.
In April, well before the Palin endorsement, Ayotte’s favorable/unfavorable numbers among NH independents stood at 35/23. By last week, they had fallen to 33/38. Ayotte still has a lead over Democrat Paul Hodes, but according to PPP it has closed from 47-40 in April to 45-42. (As of July 12, Rasmussen put Ayotte up over Hodes by 49-37%.)
PS: Here’s the gender breakdown on the effect of a Palin endorsement question:
…….More likely……Less likely
Men…….30……………..48
Women…22……………..53
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Doggone/GA
July 27th, 2010
8:12 pm
“You may wanna refer back to some of your own “true believers””
Well, I’m not stupid enough to claim I’ve read every entry, everywhere, about Obama…but HERE, I’ve never seen anyone come even close to calling him any kind of “messiah” – EXCEPT those on the “right”, who, supposedly, are against him and what he stands for. But yet…they STILL refer to him as “the Messiah” Seems more than a bit conflicted to ME.
@@
July 27th, 2010
8:13 pm
probably scratches his b*lls
My daughter’s boyfriend does a lot of that. I must say, it’s the only thing I don’t like about the guy.
popeye
July 27th, 2010
8:16 pm
Sinkwich…..”He’s a girly-man, fer sure.
Ever seen him throw a baseball
Yes, I’ve seen him throw a baseball, and I’ve also seen him shoot the lights out on a basketball court.
There used to be this guy…perhaps you’ve heard of him MICHAEL JORDAN…ring any bells. He tried out for baseball and could barely make the minor leagues.
But boy could he light up a basketball court.
Moral of the story…Shut up!
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
8:16 pm
Sooth
@ 8:08
That was an interesting post. It not only can happen here, it HAS happened here back after that little misunderstanding…but, ssshh, we’re not supposed to talk about that…
@@
July 27th, 2010
8:17 pm
Doggone:
For many on the right there’s only one Messiah.
The left has theirs and we have ours. Ergo the sarcasm. I always use a lower-case “m” when referring to your Obamessiah.
Del
July 27th, 2010
8:18 pm
AmVet,
Palin is no GWB. I like her as a person but I don’t believe she’ll become the Republican standard bearer in the 012 elections. While I think Bush was a good man with an agenda that drifted way off course for many conservatives like myself, Sarah Palin is far more conservative in her ideology. She just isn’t electable as a presidential candidate. At least not in the foreseeable future.
AmVet
July 27th, 2010
8:20 pm
josef, that is news to me, my fellow lexophile. But in a way, I’m a tad bummed. I do so love to make up interesting words and phrases like posse commode-atatis and Republiconned.
Dusters, you do have a unique gift. A kind of mastery of the specious and useless.
popeye, methinks Frank fancies himself a Heisman trophy winner…
@@
July 27th, 2010
8:22 pm
jay’s latest tweets.
Two on Sarah Palin, 4 hours ago and 5 hours ago. That’s one an hour.
I don’t know how those tweets work. I’m not a twit
terer
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
July 27th, 2010
8:27 pm
May I have the army boots? I want to give ‘em to RedNeck for his wife.
Well, Sister Dusty can kiss my grits. The missus never wears boots, just a pair of clodhoppers that she likes. And you don’t fool with a 335 lb. woman wearing a pair of clodhoppers.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
8:28 pm
@@
Not to be TOO graphic, but if you had ‘em, you’d know why we scratch ‘em…it’s a boy thing! ISH
As far as the use of the messiah on Obama…sorry, but that’s exactly the way he was treated during the campaign and he rode it like a donkey into Jerusalem on the Potomac…but I said then and I say now, wrong image, Shabbatai Zvi is more apt…
Soothsayer
July 27th, 2010
8:29 pm
The talk of recovery pervades insider thinking. The major media worldwide plays the same refrain. This is a desperate attempt to befuddle the public with misdirected propaganda to preserve confidence in a system that is in a state of collapse. As CNBC leads the charge, loss of faith in the system grows with each passing day. In spite of control of the major media by elitists, talk radio and the Internet hammers away incessantly with the truth influencing more and more 24/7 worldwide. As a result of the success of the alternative media a good many investors realize we have a systemic credit crisis that has turned into a debt crisis as well. The residential real estate collapse is still collapsing with no end in sight. That has been joined by a commercial credit crisis, which has forced banks, Wall Street and corporate America to keep two sets of books – Europe and England as well. We called the beginning of the top of the residential real estate in the summer of 2005, warning our subscribers it was time to begin to move out of real estate and to personally rent. We were the first to make that call as a few others followed six months or more later. The failure of Bear Stearns was soon followed by Lehman Bros., and a crisis of confidence was underway.
The immediate move was to save the banks, Wall Street, insurance and elitist corporate America. A number of programs were initiated, some of which are still in place. During the crisis worldwide a number of people began to accumulate cash. Some cash in hand, some in money market funds and some in gold and silver related assets. During this period lenders called loans and an unprecedented de-leveraging took place that affected every investment. As a result today such cash and cash like holdings are more than 50% higher than they were five years ago. The system is under pressure, and was it not for government deficit spending of $1.6 trillion and the infusion annually of some $2 trillion by the Federal Reserve the system would have long ago collapsed into deflationary depression.
Everything’s fine! Really, it is! Don’t worry, be happy! What’s on Entertainment Tonight, tonight?
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 27th, 2010
8:31 pm
Andruw Jones still sucks!
Just sayin…
md
July 27th, 2010
8:32 pm
Messiah?? More like Jim Jones if we keep going down this path……………
Scout
July 27th, 2010
8:32 pm
Doggone/GA:
“………. and there will be many false Christs (Messiahs)”
Scout
July 27th, 2010
8:33 pm
Let’s ligten it up a little …………..
BUMPER STICKERS :
Why is it called “Tourist Season” if you can’t shoot them ?
Guns kill people like spoons made Rosie O’Donnell fat.
What if the “Hokey Pokey” is all that it’s about ?
Don’t like cops? Next time you need one call a crackhead !
Men are idiots and I married their King !
PETA: People Eating Tasty Animals !
BioDiesel: Praise the Lard !
What Would Scooby Do ?
Officer: Please Don’t Taze Me !
I like poking dead things with a stick.
I see stupid people.
Guns Don’t Kill People. People With Mustaches Kill People.
Be nice to nerds. You’ll work for one.
Back Off! I’m a Scientist.
The only good clown is a dead clown.
Keep Honking ! I’m reloading !
@@
July 27th, 2010
8:34 pm
Shabbati Avi? A black pantheist?
Hush yo mouth!
Doggone/GA
July 27th, 2010
8:35 pm
“I always use a lower-case “m” when referring to your Obamessiah.”
See, there you go again. Referring to him as a messiah. Not me, I’ve never done that. But YOU do. Seems to me that YOUR count of “messiahs” is now up to at least 2, not 1 as you claim.
Doggone/GA
July 27th, 2010
8:38 pm
““………. and there will be many false Christs (Messiahs)””
Yep, and the right seems to have labeled at least one of them that no one else accepts. But boy, they DO like to refer to him as such. Can’t help it I guess, they’re just so desperate for someone, ANYone, to ease their fears that they’ll latch on to anyone in desperation.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
8:40 pm
AmVet
Rebubliconned violates the rules! Only words of Germanic origin may be compounded and each element (excluding prefixes and suffixes) must stand alone and have meaning.,.Romance lexical entries operate under a different set of rules, as do Hellenic elements. Elements from the two or more of the three may not be combined. That is according to the intrinsic rules of the English language. Republic-Romance , con as a verb is Germanic…now as an Engrish word…
AmVet
July 27th, 2010
8:41 pm
“I like her (Palin) as a person…”
Ditto, Del. And wrote as far back as 2008 that I believed she was a fine woman and a good American. I also averred that she was as qualified as Biden or anybody else to take her marching orders from the same corporate paymasters. And would do so unquestioningly.
And at first, I thought she was a shrewd choice. But after about watching her closely for about three or four weeks, I along, with most of America, said WHOA! GIANT RED FLAG!
Thank gawd.
Just like George, she clearly lacked any sigfnificant intellectual curiosity or acumen whatsoever. The woman was an embarrassment when it came to knowing even the basic knowledge that the Vice President of the United States must have already garnered and was ghastly unprepared for such high office. Especially given McCain’s advanced age.
And remember the nation had just watched such a person with the same obvious handicap actually get (s)elected in 2000 and again in 2004. How, I will never know.
And from the FWIW department, GWB was a disaster from the very get go. I have posted his ahem, “accomplishments”, in his first 100 days and it is a train wreck of such proportions BY ITSELF that, notwithstanding his numerous deadly industrial strength debacles that he wrought later, he was assured of ranking at the very bottom of all US presidents.
A calamitous disaster from the very beginning to very end.
@@
July 27th, 2010
8:41 pm
Doggone:
Of course you guys wouldn’t say it on a public forum. Did you go to one of his rallies? Was there a strange aura about the room? A piercing vibration? A tingle down your leg instead of up your leg. Chris Matthews’ goes up his leg.
good, Good, GOOD, good vibrations!!!!!!!!!1
I’m just methin’ wit’cha, Doggone.
AmVet
July 27th, 2010
8:44 pm
jonix at 8:40.
GOOD! I’m a rule breaker and proud of it. (Besides you’re just showing off now!) Grin.
Doggone/GA
July 27th, 2010
8:44 pm
“Of course you guys wouldn’t say it on a public forum”
Sounds like an unbelievable consensus of opinion from a group of “moonbats” don’t you think? That we silently, and without any sort of consultation, agreed to never, ever make any mention of “messiah”? yeah, right…
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
8:44 pm
“I like poking dead things with a stick.”
Me, too. Them and sleeping bears!
Del
July 27th, 2010
8:44 pm
“was it not for government deficit of $1.6 trillion and the infusion of some 2 trillion by the Federal Reserve the system would have collapsed into deflationary depression.”
You don’t even know what the hell you’re talking about, now do you. You just want to cut and paste from some far-left blog and pretend it’s your own astute observations. What a phony.
Southern Comfort
July 27th, 2010
8:47 pm
Geez, a brother leaves the blog for a few days and we have someone with single-personality, multiple-id disorder come in and start a little back and forth.
Jay puts up another Palin thread, and some on the right drag him thru the ringers over it, yet they don’t see how she’s getting free advertisement from the opposing side.
Obama’s the messiah, again… for the umpteenth time. I guess when he goes on The View on Thursday, he’s gonna bring a few pieces of bread and water with him onstage.
Meanwhile, the average American is still getting screwed by a political system that does not give a rat’s ass about his/her problems and is more concerned with Wall Street and investors. Not to worry, the middle class is much smaller than it was a few years ago. It shouldn’t be much longer before most if it is wiped out. Of course, building a shopping center with high-paying service jobs will take care of that.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
8:47 pm
AmVet
Well, I DO have to put that elite education to SOME use.
Say whatever else about George, he DID do an awful lot for public health in subsaharan Africa…more than any before or since…so he wasn’t a complete failure…
@@
July 27th, 2010
8:48 pm
Doggone:
Let me put it to you like this. If you had an ounce of sense, you wouldn’t even suggest it in public. I don’t know what the heck your talking “heads” were thinking when they dared to mouth…
it.
Scout
July 27th, 2010
8:51 pm
Doggone/GA:
If you will do the research I think the term “messiah” came to use by conservatives making fun of liberals and the way they followed him like blind lemmings …………..
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
8:52 pm
SoCo
Welcome back! Missed you…
Scout
July 27th, 2010
8:53 pm
josef:
My favorite was “I see stupid people” ………………
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
8:54 pm
Scout
Probably won’t be able to get to Romans tonight…grandbaby is still here and still full of chocolate so my attention span is a bit limited…
Alvin Greene for Senate in SC
July 27th, 2010
8:55 pm
Sarah Palin is supporting the candidate who isn’t running against me.
Scout
July 27th, 2010
8:55 pm
josef:
How about those Vermont gun laws !! Or should I say lack thereof !!!
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
8:56 pm
Scout
By the way, are Fred and today’s Harry one and the same? Harry got out before I could mention your name!!!
Alvin Greene for Senate in SC
July 27th, 2010
8:57 pm
Green Jobs will save America.
Del
July 27th, 2010
8:59 pm
The term “messiah”, or “The One” in referring to Obama, resulted from a fawning MSN as well as Obama’s narcissistic demeanor.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
8:59 pm
Scout
Vermont? What can you say about a state with highway signs that announce moose crossing? That and Ben and Jerry’s,,,mmmmm….but I wouldn’t cross ‘em too freely…
Alvin Greene for Senate in SC
July 27th, 2010
9:00 pm
Jim DaMint is a moron.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
9:01 pm
My Princess had a t-shirt that said, “I hear voices and they don’t like you!”
AmVet
July 27th, 2010
9:03 pm
jonix, eight years of disasters and that is about all the faithful can come up with as well.
Besides when looking closely at the details of this aid to HIV Africa it is not surprisingly, VERY mixed.
Here is a very good article on his Reaganesque propensity to aid and abet various African dictators and thugs.
It also pokes some pretty damn big holes in his AIDS efforts there. (Just being fair and balanced!)
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/25/opinion/main3873641.shtml
Del
July 27th, 2010
9:05 pm
Vermont is a beautiful state along with Maine and New Hampshire. We vacationed there last summer and enjoyed. Unfortunately, the folks up there in the North seem to get their politics screwed up but aside from that, they treated us very well.
AmVet
July 27th, 2010
9:05 pm
Ditto what jonix said, SoCO.
And very well said about the dwindling American “middle class”…
Dave R.
July 27th, 2010
9:09 pm
josef, did you not learn LAST NIGHT that grandbabies and chocolate do not go well together?
When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging!
Scout
July 27th, 2010
9:14 pm
josef:
Didn’t read Fred or Harry.
No problem on the Romans ……… Maybe this weekend.
My granddaughter just left ……………..
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I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 27th, 2010
9:15 pm
Programming Note To Our Station Affiliates-
Most of the nattering ninnies on this blog voted for obozo, the most egregious jackass in our nation’s long history, just sayin, perhaps you should take what they say with a grain of salt and even scoff at them when they whine about Republicans, know what I mean?
They are steady pouring salt into their own wounds, hahahahaha, I pray for you America.
We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.
Southern Comfort
July 27th, 2010
9:16 pm
josef
Just poking my head in for a min. It’s gettin’ near bedtime in these here parts. Just thought I’d peek in to see what was going on.
AmV
I kinda see the dwindling of the middle class like removing the spokes from your bicycle rims. Sure, it’s still a bike and they are still wheels, but without that middle group to keep things together, that bike ain’t goin’ nowhere fast!!
Hopefully, I’ll be able to catch up with y’all by the music thread this Friday. If not, just throw a track or two for me. I think MJ sums up my life pretty good right now:
You Got Me Workin’ Day And Night
And I’ll Be Workin’
From Sun Up To Midnight
You Got Me Workin’ Workin’ Day And Night
You Got Me Workin’ Workin’ Day And Night
You Got Me Workin’ Workin’ Day And Night
You Got Me Workin’ Workin’ Day And Night
Catch y’all later!!!
Scout
July 27th, 2010
9:17 pm
Note to Evangelical Christians:
Bulletin from Higher Up …………….
““And Jesus said, I must ascend to the Father now but whatever you do, don’t tell anyone about Me and PLEASE do not go into other parts of the world trying to spread the Gospel of eternal life. Just keep it SECRET. Don’t wear your Chrisitanity on your sleve or you might OFFEND someone. If others don’t know the truth of My word ……. just leave them in DARKNESS. The Devil likes that. YOU have eternal life ……. WHY share it with anyone else?”
Del
July 27th, 2010
9:18 pm
What will Jay put up as a topic tomorrow. Maybe bemoaning the demise of the “Disclose Act” with wise Democrats joining into its defeat. Taps…have a good night y’all.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 27th, 2010
9:24 pm
Aahh, Andruw homers but he still sucks!
md
July 27th, 2010
9:24 pm
“What will Jay put up as a topic tomorrow.”
With Palin out of the way for the week, I’m guessing it’s about time for GW. The dem push for cap and trade should be starting soon, and the media has it marching orders………..
md
July 27th, 2010
9:26 pm
AmVet @
July 27th, 2010
8:41 pm
That post hit home……many of us thought the same exact thing…….of Barry.
barking frog
July 27th, 2010
9:26 pm
Another bumper sticker credited to Ben Franklin; “There has never been a good
war or a bad piece.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
9:27 pm
AmVet
Am aware of the criticisms of Bush there…but the bottom line is that he did do it…
Dave…
Yeah, but even if it is wearing my tired old ass out, he’s having a ball and it’s good to have grandbabies to spoil rotten, let ‘em run wild, and send them home…as I tell their mamas and daddies, “payback! Ain’t it a b*tch!” (I’ll keep telling myself that until tomorrow p.m.!)
Del
Ditto on Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine and Upstate New York…
JacobLocke
July 27th, 2010
9:28 pm
Following the attacks of September 11, 2001, Americans became incredibly vocal against something called “Islamist Extremism” (see also Islamic Fundamentalism). Every American had an opinion about this new danger to America – everyone sounding off about how backwards Muslims were because of their religious zeal. Ahem. Pot, meet kettle.
Of course, hyporcicy knows no bounds in this great country of ours and Americans just love pointing out in others the very faults that make us suck so much. Really? Muslims are zealous? I’m not saying they aren’t, but I think it’s fair to say that, as far as religious fundamentalism goes, we’re probably tied for first with our friends in the Middle East. Abortion clinic bombings, hate crimes against homosexuals, the Klan, prejudices – all of these have roots in the engrained American Judaeo-Christian orthodoxy.
This has been the dominant religious, cultural and political paradigm in this country since the beginning. While folks in the 17th century may not have called it Judaeo-Christian, the fact remains they were following those practices, which are primarily based in the religious ideology of the Old Testament. Essentially, it is this: if you don’t follow the prescribed moral instruction of the Old Testament/Torah, you will be smote by God. Smiting most often comes in the form of some angry white dudes doing terrible things to you (and sometimes to your goat too).
The first example this kind of justice occurred in the latter half of the 17th century when colonists, disturbed by women speaking out of turn, decided to accuse these women of witchcraft and burn the miserable tarts at the stake. This particular group of witch-burning fundamentalists was led by Cotton Mather – the ideological great-great-great-great-grandfather of such fine, upstanding Americans as Joe McCarthy, Pat Robertson, Sean Hannity, and Newt Gingrich (and I’m pretty sure he’s the guy Ann Coulter prays to every night in front of an alter).
From there it snowballed – Native American genocide, slavery, anti-Chinese leagues, etc, etc, etc. In modern times, the good Judaeo-Christian men and women of America make sure that homosexuals, Muslims, Indians, atheists, communists, and everyone else who holds beliefs different from the American way are perfectly aware that they are NOT welcome. No, we’re not burning women en masse for witchcraft anymore, nor have we flown any planes into the cultural centers of any Islamic nations (er, wait a minute), but we do like to occasionally beat, maim, and murder homosexuals and tie them to fences. Shoot, yeah! God LOVES US!
Most Americans don’t want to hear such things. Afterall, America is the greatest nation in the free world. We can do NO wrong. God is on our side – heck, God blesses America (it’s in a song). Well, guess what. There are a lot of people halfway around the world who thinks God blesses them too. Guess we’ll know whom God loves more by who’s left standing.
JacobLocke
July 27th, 2010
9:28 pm
http://whyamericanssuck.blogspot.com/
Dusty
July 27th, 2010
9:29 pm
Excuse me if I don’t go with the flow. The Braves needed a little help and I had to be of assistance.. Not that it did much good!
But…otherwse..All is well! THE FRENCH HAVE DECLARED WAR ON AL QUIDA!!.. They are as mad as hornets from the president right on down. They have already attacked some terrorists in North Africa. Seems a nice 78 year old Frenchman, an aid worker, traveled afar to help some starving Africans. He was captured by al Quida and held. Then they killed him!!
I like the French. They know when to get mad!! Nothing like a French Foreign Legionaire!!
Go Lafayette!!!! Get those killers!! Go Braves!! Get those guys from Washington, the baseball players that is…..(and maybe a few others??)
Scout
July 27th, 2010
9:30 pm
PARIS — “France has declared war on al-Qaida, and matched its fighting words with a first attack on a base camp of the terror network’s North African branch, after the terror network killed a French aid worker it took hostage in April.”
Pepe Le Pew would be proud:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hBFEObtQdM
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
9:30 pm
What will Jay put up? You can bet it won’t be Monds…
Scout
July 27th, 2010
9:33 pm
“What will Jay put up” ?
Probably something “economic”. He’s big into that.
Doggone/GA
July 27th, 2010
9:34 pm
“If you had an ounce of sense, you wouldn’t even suggest it in public.”
Interesting take on it. So what does that say about those who DO refer to him in public as “the Messiah” – who appear, on this blog anyway, to be universally his OPPONENTS? Are they, too, lacking an “ounce of sense”?
My answer: yep, without a DOUBT
md
July 27th, 2010
9:34 pm
“There has never been a good
war or a bad piece.”
Probably should be “peace”, but since it works either way…………..
barking frog
July 27th, 2010
9:34 pm
@Scout: from your posts it would seem that only Christians can spend an eternity in hell
since they’re the only ones with eternal life.
Doggone/GA
July 27th, 2010
9:36 pm
“came to use by conservatives making fun of liberals and the way they followed him like blind lemmings …………..”
That’s the best you got? I think you’re completely wrong. That they are so desperate for a Messiah, ANY messiah, that they latched on to him…and are now scrambling for a way to deflect attention from their devotion. But they can’t help it, it still slips out.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 27th, 2010
9:36 pm
The tax benefit, worth as much as $8,000, spurred a 4.9 percent rise in sales last year, the first increase since 2005, according to the Chicago-based National Association of Realtors.
Even an idiot should be able to figure out that lower tax rates spur increased economic activity but, alas, most dummycrats haven’t reached the idiot level yet.
I wish I could say “give them time,” but then I would be a liar.
Can’t have that.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 27th, 2010
9:38 pm
kookman doesn’t even know what his next column will be about but the White House does, just sayin…
He’s just waiting on that call…
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
9:38 pm
Jacob
Well, while much of what you say may be true, the Judeo-Christian civilization did give us a lot on the positive side, too, like the rule by written law of the Hamurabbic-Abrahamic-Mosaic tradition and here in America we’ve been amazingly tolerant considering how heterogenous we are as a society…and don’t forget that at the same time they were dunking witches in New England, Carolina was offering “equal rights of citizenship to Jews, Heathens and Dissenters.” There’s two sides to the story…
Scout
July 27th, 2010
9:39 pm
Headline: “Chevy Volt Will Cost $41,000″
With a $7,500 Federal tax credit that’s $33,500. You can get a nice motor car for $20,000.
Do you realize how much gasoline you can buy for $13, 500 ??
Scout
July 27th, 2010
9:41 pm
barking frog :
Shhhhhh! You’re supposed to pretend we aren’t interested in you anymore.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
9:44 pm
Dusty and Scout
I best not go off on the French…I got into trouble for that last p.m. and besides, the Bruin thinks speaking French is elitist!
On the serious side, it’s about time they wake up an smell the cafe au lait…
JacobLocke
July 27th, 2010
9:44 pm
@josef nix – yeah, and the Nazis gave us some pretty remarkable advances in science …
Paulo977
July 27th, 2010
9:45 pm
Josef @ 7:42pm..re:”She is really US”
Collective consciousness?? Shudder!
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
9:46 pm
Jacob
The nazis were did not couch their ideologies in terms of relgion, but terms of race…and innovation that proved far more effective in an increasingly secular society…
barking frog
July 27th, 2010
9:47 pm
Palin-Bush 2012.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
9:47 pm
Paulo
“Shudder”
Oh, yes, and I DO!
AmVet
July 27th, 2010
9:48 pm
md, LOL!
There’s just one tiny little difference. It’s called reality.
Look, some day a long, long, long time from now, there will actually be many, many erstwhile Republicans with enough intellectual honesty who look back at the Bush administration and go yep, AmVet and all those other Americans were absolutely spot on correct. The Bush administration was a consummate clusterf&ck.
And during the not-so-glorious days of his Reign of Error, the neo-con movement, aka fake conservatism, went from travestic glory to a hellish nightmare of consecutive electoral slaughters. One so horrific, it will never be repeated and the next, almost as big an a–whooping.
So at least America can take pride in that one bright spot in an otherwise dreadful decade of GOP misgovernance and unparalleled fraud and corruption.
And Barry, though no consolation prize, and a Republican-lite in his own right, is nowhere remotely close (yet?) to matching the most serially impeachable administration in all of American history.
Just look it up, you’ll see. Bush will never, ever climb out of the bottom five presidents of all time.
(Don’t shoot the messenger.)
JacobLocke
July 27th, 2010
9:51 pm
Actually, Josef, they built their ideology on nationalism. Sound familiar?
barking frog
July 27th, 2010
9:52 pm
Scout 9:39; You’re being disloyal to Georgia Power.
Doggone/GA
July 27th, 2010
9:54 pm
“they built their ideology on nationalism. Sound familiar?”
It does indeed. It sounds JUST like those who came up with “homeland” (fatherland?) security.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
9:54 pm
AmVet
Love that Reign of Error!!! Still can’t go with you on the bottom five, though…bottom ten, no doubt…and you are right as rain on Bush Lite…i’m reminded of the line in Little Big Man when Chief Dan George says, “Oh, you mean the black white man…not as ugly, but every bit as crazy.” So be it with Obama and Bush, Obama’s policies are not as ugly, but every bit as crazy…
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
9:57 pm
i beg to differ. They did not build their ideology on nationalism, but on a racism which they couched for public consumption in nationalistic terms…the whole megillah was “Aryan” superiority and the Aryans were not a nation, but a race…
FinanceBuzz
July 27th, 2010
9:59 pm
I like Sarah Palin, but her endorsement will not encourage me to vote for moderate-at-best Karen Handel. We need true conservatives and that, Karen Handel is not. Nathan Deal has my vote and should Handel win the runoff, she will not get my vote in the general. I wouldn’t vote for Roy Barnes, so I would just skip that race on my ballot. After all, a Georgia Democrat is not nearly as distasteful as those hard-left Northeast liberals.
md
July 27th, 2010
9:59 pm
“And Barry, though no consolation prize, and a Republican-lite in his own right, is nowhere remotely close (yet?) to matching the most serially impeachable administration in all of American history.”
And I think that is where we differ, as Barry has allowed the far left to dictate to him vs the other way around. Republican-lite would not have passed such a screwed up hc bill, and wouldn’t even think about a crap and trade bill when the economy is in the tank.
And I haven’t even touched on the deficit, card check, credit card bill, finance bill etc that has businesses back on it’s heels waiting for the next shoe to fall.
Doggone/GA
July 27th, 2010
10:00 pm
“They did not build their ideology on nationalism, but on a racism which they couched for public consumption in nationalistic terms”
Or, as I would put it: racism was the reason, nationalism was the excuse
Scout
July 27th, 2010
10:06 pm
josef:
Like I’ve always said, if green Martians landed tonight and were eating the French alive, I wouldn’t lose a minute’s sleep.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
10:06 pm
Doggone
Again, I must disagree…nationalism was the metaphore at one level, but it did not at any juncture have the appeal…the nazis did not make war on the Slavic NATIONS but on the Slavic race…Jews and Gypsies were not slaughtered in the name of nationalism but in the name of racism…all you have to do is look at the occupation of and the conduct of the war against their fellow “Aryans”: versus even their policies in those non Aryan states politically aligned with them…
md
July 27th, 2010
10:06 pm
They built their ideology on the emotions of the times…..what the lemmings wanted to hear.
No different than any politician savvy in the art of bs.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
10:07 pm
Scout
now, now…if the Martians are nazis then I’m racially French!
JacobLocke
July 27th, 2010
10:08 pm
@Josef – it was founded on the principles laid down by Von Herder’s 18th century nationalistic ideas. The Nazis “fine-tuned” this vision into the idea that the Aryans were the true German people.
barking frog
July 27th, 2010
10:09 pm
scout 10;06; I believe the martians would have them fried.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
10:09 pm
md
I’m not so sure they built their ideologies as you suggest, but they certainly did their politics and as you say, “no different than any politician savvy in the art of bs.”
Doggone/GA
July 27th, 2010
10:10 pm
“nationalism was the metaphore at one level, but it did not at any juncture have the appeal”
That’s why I label it an excuse. It was just something to say to mask the true reason: racism
Dusty
July 27th, 2010
10:12 pm
Oh oh, I”m singing,,,,Allons enfant de la patrie…Les jour de gloire est arrive’!!!
I believe the French feel really really good that their government thinks enough of one of their citizens to go to war and fight the killers. Cowardly killers at that, killing a seventy eight year old aid worker! The French would not stand idly by. Viva la France!
Good to see the French supporting their military and their citizens.. Perhaps Bookman’s topic tomorrow will spotlight the tepid support Americans are giving to our military. That is so politically correct to be tepid these days. But Bookman would not breach the protocol.. It might sound so….well…you know….shh,,,patriotic!!
md
July 27th, 2010
10:15 pm
Jo,
You are correct, the savvy leaders already had their “ideology”, they spread it through the art of bs. Still no different than today’s “leaders”.
Chavez is a perfect example – an elected dictator. It can and more than likely will happen again.
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
10:15 pm
Jacob
Von Herder had his influence, no doubt, as did Nietzsche and Wagner…but the novelty, for lack of a better word, was the “scientific” and the codification of that into law…
Scout
July 27th, 2010
10:19 pm
barking frog:
saute’ed
josef nix
July 27th, 2010
10:19 pm
Doggone
I can see your point, but that “mask” was dropped with the Nurnberg Laws of 1935…
md
It is why i only in half jest refer to the present as Jacobins…if anyone doubts that, what else would the Sherrod case be?
JacobLocke
July 27th, 2010
10:19 pm
@Josef – Well, who’s to say these “patriots” we call the Tea Party aren’t moving us in the same direction?
Scout
July 27th, 2010
10:20 pm
josef:
If the French are going to get involved they had better use the Foreign Legion.
They are the only ones who can fight.
Ryan
July 27th, 2010
10:21 pm
Jay, are you honestly comparing NH to GA? Much more conservative here than up north and you know that. A Palin endorsement in the North is like an Obama endorsement here in GA. Of course the number is gonna be off! BRING IT ON!