‘A corporate culture that has lost its sense of shame’
So says Dana Milbank at The Washington Post:
If Don Blankenship had any sense of shame, he’d crawl into a mine and hide.
As CEO of Massey Energy, he has presided over a coal company that had thousands of violations in recent years, leading up to the April explosion that killed 29 of his miners. The company now faces a federal criminal investigation into what the government has called negligent and reckless practices.
But Blankenship must have no sense of shame, because he visited the National Press Club last week to complain about “knee-jerk political reactions” to mine deaths and to demand that the Obama administration lighten regulations on his dirty and dangerous company. “We need to let businesses function as businesses,” an indignant Blankenship proclaimed. “Corporate business is what built America, in my opinion, and we need to let it thrive by, in a sense, leaving it alone.”
The CEO was asked what he could have done to prevent the deadly explosion. “I probably should’ve sued MSHA” — that’s the federal Mine Safety and Health Administration — “rather than waiting” until now, he said. In the future, he added, “you’ll see not only coal companies but many companies resist the efforts of EPA and others that are impeding their ability to pursue their careers, or their happiness.”
Poor CEO Blankenship. That mean federal government is not allowing him to pursue his happiness, just because his employees are dead….
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Scout
July 24th, 2010
4:05 pm
Pogo:
Yep, he started this thread and then disappeared.
Soothsayer
July 24th, 2010
4:06 pm
theeyeshaveit: What is truly sad is that these are the same ones who control our country regardless of who we elect.
Michelle
July 24th, 2010
4:07 pm
Daddy, where does Scout think you were born?
ofgg
July 24th, 2010
4:08 pm
No shame in blogging!
Don’t feel like working? Just cut and paste someone else’s work.
Scout
July 24th, 2010
4:14 pm
Well, well, well ……………………..
HEADLINE New York Times: “Britain Plans to Decentralize National Health Care”
“Perhaps the only consistent thing about Britain’s socialized health care system is that it is in a perpetual state of flux, its structure constantly changing as governments search for the elusive formula that will deliver the best care for the cheapest price while costs and demand escalate.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/25/world/europe/25britain.html?_r=2&hp
Obams is sooooooo in over his head .
TaxPayer
July 24th, 2010
4:15 pm
Soothsayer,
I’ve always added the quotes.
Here is a sample with the quotes and here is the same sample without the quotes.
I have no idea if the two versions function the same for all possible URLs or not.
jt
July 24th, 2010
4:15 pm
Scout
Ever heard of this guy? Kinda making waves in parts of the intra-net.
Do you think him traiterous or truthful?
Me personally, I can’t dislike him as much as I detested Murtha.
http://www.gonzotimes.com/2576/fear-and-loathing-in-the-u-s-m-c-part-2-brainwashed-in-the-u-s-m-c/
Scout
July 24th, 2010
4:18 pm
Michelle :
Honey, he’s not sure but Scout hopes the truth comes out by the next election. Unfortunately, some states are trying to pass legislation reguiring all candidates for the Office of President show their long-form birth certificate. We’ll have to fight that in court so we’ll see how it goes.
Now go walk the dog and quit asking me why we have a fence but the people in Arizona can’t have one on their border.
theyeshaveit
July 24th, 2010
4:24 pm
Scout,
FYI, I am going to take a break from blogging to watch the full 43-minute video of Sherrod’s address to the NAACP in March. By the way, did you know that she made a similar presentation at a university back in October of 2009? Nothing, said Ms. Sherrod, was made of it then. The reason, of course, was that things had not yet reached critical mass for Breitbart. Big Government clearly was motivated by the recent NAACP versus Tea Party Express controversy.
Also, I am going to sit with my wife shortly to have something to eat. I intend to get some info from her that I might perhaps share with you regarding how Health Insurance works in Japan. Hint: It is less expensive for a Japanese to pay for a round-trip ticket to Tokyo, and see a doctor or dentist there most of the time than it is to flash your HMO or PPO insurance card and see someone here in the US.
Soothsayer
July 24th, 2010
4:25 pm
How bad is this? I’m running around the house all excited because we have a clould over us!
theyeshaveit
July 24th, 2010
4:29 pm
Soothsayer,
Are you under cloud nine?
larry
July 24th, 2010
4:33 pm
They are starting to eat their own………….
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/07/22/limbaugh-says-fox-news-caved-in-sherrod-coverage/?fbid=k4txQKSCRiZ&hpt=Sbin
TaxPayer
July 24th, 2010
4:35 pm
Those youtube videos with the URLs that contain a # work if you enclose the URL in quotes. Try this one from last night for example:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=1n7pfNNP2EM&feature=related”">Some Hillbilly music.</a>
Soothsayer
July 24th, 2010
4:35 pm
Praise the Lord! I hear thunder in the distance! My yard is “extra crispy.”
TaxPayer
July 24th, 2010
4:38 pm
Oops! That 4:35 has one too many closing quote.
jt
July 24th, 2010
4:39 pm
Soothsayer
I find that just ACTING like your are fixing to wash your car sometimes helps.
I tried it earlier, to no avail. They’re on to me I guess.
Scout
July 24th, 2010
4:41 pm
jt:
Thanks so much for posting that. Had not seen it.
Short version:
1) I can probably agree with about 90% of what he said right up front and “yes” you are brainwashed …….. at least to some extent.
2) When it comes to the 10% disagreement it would be something like I saw humor all the way through bootcamp ….. not just at the end to “seal the deal”. They would often do things to us or an individual recruit to make us laugh (inside only!) to break the tension.
3) I don’t know if this author/Marine was ever in combat (specifically infantry combat) but 99%+ of the American populace has no (repeat no) concept of what it takes to get up from a prone position when rounds are flying inches above your head to maneuver or charge the enemy. A normal person will just not do that. For example, a squad sergeant may scream for you to get up and flank an enemy position knowing he is sending you to your certain death but also knowing he is saving the squad …….. or accomplishing the mission by momentarily distracting the enemy so the rest of the squad can kill them.
4) Again, the American public has no idea of the “life changing” events some military people go through.
5) I know you may be tired of this but it brings me back to one of my favorite quotes:
“When civilized man can no longer stand the horror of war and refuses to fight, then he will surely be killed or enslaved by the uncivlized who can.”
Again, thanks for bringing that to my attention.
Soothsayer
July 24th, 2010
4:45 pm
jt: you’re right–if we all washed our cars at the same time it would rain.
Mick
July 24th, 2010
4:46 pm
Natural born killers let loose as the dogs of war, such people are charged to complete the mission for the sake of their country.
SPQR(laissez Faire)
July 24th, 2010
4:48 pm
Saul…
nah not worth it
To hell with obama, to hell with his minions and followers, and to HELL with citizen of the world crap.
Mick
July 24th, 2010
4:53 pm
**To hell with obama, to hell with his minions and followers, and to HELL with citizen of the world crap.**
On the other hand, zep rules…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYWxE-ShdXc
jt
July 24th, 2010
4:55 pm
Scout
“saw humor all the way through bootcamp”
Me too. Navy bootcamp was by no means as cruel as Parris Island, but the physical aspect of it was a joke . The hardest part for me was not to laugh when the guy across the barracks was getting yelled at. Or vice versus when I could see my mate making funny faces as I was getting screamed at.
I DID have to jump into an unheated pool in Orlando during february. all of us recruits had to first shower and get in line to ascend the ladder. It was about 40 degrees and half the recruits were terrified of jumping so you just had to wait there and convulse with shivers. I also got stung in the eyeball by a wasp. I looked like that the “elephant man” for about a week. People would litterally puke when I walked into the chow hall.
Other than that, they controlled me due to lack of sleep. No brain-washing except for the fact that one squid= 10 army=17 airforce=1.5 marines in fighting. I think the equation has changed now that they have let alot of split-tails in.
SPQR(laissez Faire)
July 24th, 2010
4:58 pm
But.. since your head has been firmly implanted up your a** , I can answer your assinine “and their GDP?”
US GDP nominal 2009 14.259 trillion
The chin’s GDP nominal 2009 4.900, 3rd..distant F’kng 3rd..
And as it rises they will not be rising with cheap oil, so every oil spike hurts emerging markets more than mature. And they are not living a greener more spiritual existance like the liberals may wish we did..they live in the worlds most polluted cities, or in rural rice farming non electrified hovels..very little suburbia..there is no Fled Flintstone and Bahny Wubble suburbia there.
And last but not least, because I bet this is the main reason saul loves china, they have COMMUNIST PARTY RULE. You know, like obama, if we left him alone.
Now I wont say go break a leg..but if it happens, so be it.
Mick
July 24th, 2010
5:04 pm
SPQR(laissez Faire)
This one’s better live
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz5B3oVAUXk&feature=related
SPQR(laissez Faire)
July 24th, 2010
5:05 pm
Mick ..hell yeah, the best band in HISTORY..past or present..
Here is a fine LEZ ZEP selection for Saul…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCvMKcNJCAY
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
Scout
July 24th, 2010
5:08 pm
Mick @ 4:46
That’s about as condensed as one can say it.
popeye
July 24th, 2010
5:09 pm
JT….
“except for the fact that one squid= 10 army=17 airforce=1.5 marines in fighting.”
Why is it then since WWII to present the Army has accounted for 532 medals of honor…the Marine Corp 182, and the Navy 82. Tough guys my ass!
jt
July 24th, 2010
5:11 pm
All I’m saying is the Navy nor the Marines get a MEDAL for finishing bootcamp.
We get orders and a kick in the ass. (I also got substancial per diem checks).
jt
July 24th, 2010
5:13 pm
popeye
Ya didn’t have to yell at me.
Just funnin.
Gotta go to the liquer store before sabbath.
Vote John Monds.
Southern Comfort
July 24th, 2010
5:15 pm
Wal-Mart Radio Tags to Track Clothing
While the tags can be removed from clothing and packages, they can’t be turned off, and they are trackable. Some privacy advocates hypothesize that unscrupulous marketers or criminals will be able to drive by consumers’ homes and scan their garbage to discover what they have recently bought.
They also worry that retailers will be able to scan customers who carry new types of personal ID cards as they walk through a store, without their knowledge. Several states, including Washington and New York, have begun issuing enhanced driver’s licenses that contain radio- frequency tags with unique ID numbers, to make border crossings easier for frequent travelers. Some privacy advocates contend that retailers could theoretically scan people with such licenses as they make purchases, combine the info with their credit card data, and then know the person’s identity the next time they stepped into the store.
And some people think Obama is scary… Sheeiitt, Obama can’t hold a candle to Wally’s Empire. Big Brother is coming in the form of a Discount Mass Retailer…
RW-(the original)
July 24th, 2010
5:15 pm
This version of Wordpress adds the quotes for you if you leave them out and the URL’s with the # sign always work when you do your own coding. It’s only when you copy and drop them to let the auto coding do it that you have a problem.
barking frog
July 24th, 2010
5:15 pm
theeyeshaveit; 3;21;3:334, Yep USAF(SS) All 4 years. Wakkanai was the coldest place
I have ever been.
Southern Comfort
July 24th, 2010
5:15 pm
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704421304575383213061198090.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsThird
Tag didn’t work as expected
popeye
July 24th, 2010
5:16 pm
Neither does the U.S. Army!
Well, I’m so glad you collected your per diem checks, Is that to make me go all gaga?
Mick
July 24th, 2010
5:17 pm
SPQR(laissez Faire)
First time I heard that song was in the middle of the night when half asleep, sounded pretty scary but loved it never the less.
Scout
“Everyone wants to go to heaven but no one wants to die to get there”
SPQR(laissez Faire)
July 24th, 2010
5:18 pm
Mick, love this too..although just Page and Plant this time..The best rock Voice and The best guitar player ever.. and this time, oddly enough, some egyptian playing a coffe grinder/bagpipe hybrid ..but it bloodty well werks!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gfrsN74Eu8
add in John paul jones, considered one of the finest session musicians ever, and bonzo on drums and you see why nobodycan ever top it//in fact, physical graffiti was rock’s peak..it’s all been downhill since 1975, and thats saying something since I wasn’t even born then..The decline was slow at first, and the evils of disco were , like Jimmy carter, tossed aside during the great Reagan years, but FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF..ok..enough..i’ve got to..ramble on!
Scout
July 24th, 2010
5:18 pm
jt.
LOL !
We called them BAMs back then !
Yep, I could go on and on about the humor. For example, one guy kept messing up during close order drill during the first part of bootcamp. So, for almost a whole day he had to just follow along about 20 yards behind the rest of us skipping along instead of marching with his shirt out, cover on backwards and his bootlaces undone. That was also a hidden signal for other D.I.’s to come over and mess with him. Our D.I. would even make him go over and try and hide at the end of another platoon and then that D.I. would pretend to go ballistic, etc.
All part of the game.
In addition to what I said before, here is the sad part. I am proud of my service in the Corps inspite of its faults. My uniform still hangs in my closet. However, our bootcamp had been reduced from 13 weeks to 9. Why? They needed lots of “canon fodder” in Nam.
Again, another one of my favorite quotes that says it all:
“If there was immorality in the war in Vietnam, it was that a democratic nation called her citizens to war, had them killed by the tens of thousands, and then, like a faithless lover, turned and scorned the survivors. Oh, perfidious nation!”
David Donovan
I believe as Christians we are to forgive individuals. I may be wrong, but I don’t feel countries are in the same category.
I will never forget ……….. and I will never forgive my country.
popeye
July 24th, 2010
5:20 pm
jt “Ya didn’t have to yell at me.
Just funnin.”
As an ex U. S Army combat vet … Sometimes I do take things too personnaly.
Stock up well at the liquor store, and watch at for them Baptists!
Scout
July 24th, 2010
5:23 pm
popeye:
Based on the size of the Army vs. the much smaller Marine Corps that puts us number one ……………………
Just sayin.
Scout
July 24th, 2010
5:24 pm
Mick:
True. Its something inate within us to want to live forever ………………
AND ! That is possible ………. if one is ready to go through salvation in Jesus Christ !
Just sayin ……………
Mick
July 24th, 2010
5:25 pm
SPQR(laissez Faire)
I saw page and plant on that tour in miami. Page can be sloppy in his live playing but his genius in the recording studio is second to none. The firm was a great band while it lasted-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV67R3SLvzY
popeye
July 24th, 2010
5:26 pm
Whatever scout….Isn’t it time to pull your uniform out of the closet, put it on and parade rest in front of the mirror!
SPQR(laissez Faire)
July 24th, 2010
5:29 pm
Ah..it’s called a Hurdy Gurdy..wheel fiddle
Scout
July 24th, 2010
5:34 pm
popeye:
Sorry, it won’t fit.
I had just gotten over malaria and was down to 147 lbs. when I was discharged.
I’m 200 now. Maybe some day.
Mick
July 24th, 2010
5:35 pm
scout
To me, jesus the christ combines peace, intelligence, strength, forgiveness, humility and perfection. Faith or lack thereof is our human challenge.
TaxPayer
July 24th, 2010
5:39 pm
All I knows is <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=1n7pfNNP2EM&feature=related">this worked</a> and
<a href=http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=1n7pfNNP2EM&feature=related>this did not work</a> when I tried it.
Don't forget
July 24th, 2010
5:39 pm
SPQR(laissez Faire)
And as it rises they will not be rising with cheap oil, so every oil spike hurts emerging markets more than mature. And they are not living a greener more spiritual existance like the liberals may wish we did..they live in the worlds most polluted cities, or in rural rice farming non electrified hovels..very little suburbia..there is no Fled Flintstone and Bahny Wubble suburbia there.
———————————————————————–
I’m not sure which liberals are saying the Chinese don’t live with pollution. They have terrible pollution and a largely coal based economy. They had to shut down most of their industries just to make the air breathable for the Olympics. And I would agree that energy spikes would hurt them more than us but this may not be the case in the not too distant future. They are investing heavily in alternative energy research and have surpassed us with almost twice the investment in 2009, they have now equaled us in alternative energy output and their 5 year growth plan is triple ours. We should not be letting that happen. I’m ready to do what it takes to be #1 in this area again, I hope you are too.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/mar/25/china-renewable-energy-pew-research
SPQR(laissez Faire)
July 24th, 2010
5:41 pm
Mick..one last this afternoon..ECO LEDZEP for our friends on the gulf coast..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBMaSIHUatA&feature=related
Down by the seaside. See the boats go sailin’
Can the people hear, What the little fish are sayin’
SPQR(laissez Faire)
July 24th, 2010
5:45 pm
Don’t forget, I am prepared to offer HUGE tax incentives to corporations to invest in R&D …IN THE USA
I don’t think obama wants that, he would rather government collect the money from us then he can dole it out in grants for r&d..that way $1.2 billion equates to 740 jobs in michigan..WTFing go, Barry…
Mick
July 24th, 2010
5:45 pm
SPQR(laissez Faire)
bluegrass zep…incredible
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7_T095ja78
RW-(the original)
July 24th, 2010
5:47 pm
Let me rephrase for the remarkably slow. The URL’s with the # sign always work when you code them properly.
Mick
July 24th, 2010
5:48 pm
SPQR(laissez Faire)
Finally, zepparella…nothing is sacred anymore-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkaBK_faGWc&feature=related
Don't forget
July 24th, 2010
5:51 pm
Scout,
I will never forget ……….. and I will never forgive my country.
—————————————————————
Ok, I want to tread lightly here because I know there is a lot of pain here and in no way would I intend to offend you. But aren’t you at least somewhat impressed with Mrs. Sherrod? Didn’t her country, her state and her community let her down when they refused to even indict the man that shot her father dead?
Scout
July 24th, 2010
5:52 pm
Don’t forget:
Absolutely assuming they had enough evidence.
Scout
July 24th, 2010
5:53 pm
Mick:
I hear you ………..
SPQR(laissez Faire)
July 24th, 2010
5:57 pm
Zepparella does rock! I also Like Hell’s Belles..la femme ACDC trib band
Scout
July 24th, 2010
5:57 pm
popeye:
ENJOY !
Your reply was a little terse so back to those Medal of Honor figures:
U.S. Army Divisions in WWII …………….. approximately 100
U.S. Marine Corps Divisions in WWII …………….. 6
U.S. Army Divisions in Korean War ……… 8
U.S. Marine Corps Divsions ………………. 1
U.S. Army Divisions in the Vietnam War ………. 10
U.S. Marine Corps Divisions ……………………… 2
Totals :
Army Divisions ……….. 118 (Medals of Honor – 532)
Marine Divisions ……….. 9 (Medals of Honor – 182)
% of Marines to Soldiers = 7.6%
% of Medals (USMC vs. USA) = 34.2%
Normal
July 24th, 2010
5:59 pm
Walmart and radio transmitters? Just be glad Walmart doesn’t offer discount dentistry…proctology..just sayin’…
Scout
July 24th, 2010
5:59 pm
jt:
Please make sure you read my 5:57.
That’s says volumes about the article on USMC bootcamp you posted.
Scout
July 24th, 2010
6:00 pm
popeye:
Do you know why there were no Marines in the Europen theater in WW II (i.e., D-Day Normandy) ??
Mick
July 24th, 2010
6:06 pm
SPQR(laissez Faire)
Physical graffiti is one of my favorite albums, check out jimmy page with the black crowes for near perfect live renditions. As the power of the sun subsides, time to ride the bicycle and get the blood a flowin…later
Mick
July 24th, 2010
6:11 pm
scout
One last comment before I go; all young males should go through bootcamp. It is a great place to learn teamwork and become a man. Some of these mama’s boys need to break from the nest. Still one of the best experiences I’ve had in my life…semper paratus
Dan
July 24th, 2010
6:13 pm
Too true no shame in corporations, however there is far less in politics. Can you imagine if politicians were held to the same standards of truth and integrity as corporations??? every session of congress is Enron times 10
RW-(the original)
July 24th, 2010
6:16 pm
A government culture that has lost its sense of shame
TaxPayer
July 24th, 2010
6:17 pm
And for the remarkably smartassed, I gave an example where, for anyone interested in constructive feedback, the # works and where the # does not work. Take it or shove it.
Scout
July 24th, 2010
6:21 pm
Mick:
Oh, I agree but it would be tough to do now. Our country is just too big and too fragmented. That only works in a place like Israel.
We have “Balkanized” I fear to the point of no return.
Nothing stands forever.
popeye
July 24th, 2010
6:22 pm
Scout….I’m now sorry I even brought the topic up. I spent 6 years in the regular army, and when they issued me orders to go back to Nam I got out. I spent a little over 20 in the Guard and reserves.
After 2 years out of the regular army which was 1970 I did a lot of reflecting. Joined a war protest group and became a pacifist. So the history of war and conquest is my least favorite subject, and
I don’t bother to persue it. Just thinking of the atrocities we committed in Vietnam wants to make me retch.
RW-(the original)
July 24th, 2010
6:24 pm
Ah but do you know why the one with the URLs with # sign don’t work in your second example where you improperly code the link?
For anyone seriously wondering, its the same reason they don’t work when you just copy and paste. If you don’t properly delineate your URL in quotes you leave it up to Wordpress to figure out where your URL ends and the # sign stumps it.
That crazy coding instruction that Soothspamalot left on here needs to be burned…or at least ignored.
jt
July 24th, 2010
6:33 pm
Just got back from the beer haus. Didn’t have any of this.
http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0724/strongest-beer-served-dead-squirrels/
Gotta go a do something for my wife.
Here is an idea.
I am pretty ambivilant on the ground zero mosque. Unlike statists, I believe that private property is the cornerstone of a civilized society (that goes for MY labor too). If those guys bought that land, then they should have the right to do it. Possibly class or grace could prevent it.
That would’nt stop people who feel strongly about this to band together and open a HOOTERS directly across the street from it. Or maybe a Piggly Wiggly. Hat tip DougRoss.
later.
Scout
July 24th, 2010
6:35 pm
popeye:
I hear you and was just being my old self. My brother was an Army tanker.
I have great respect for the Army (especially the elite units like the Rangers and Airborne) and my battalion was attached once to the 1st Air Cav. in Nam. They treated us real nice.
I know there were atrocities in Nam as there are in any War. That is truly sad. But I don’t think it was any worse than Korea or WWII. Just my opinion. I never saw any because I served way, way up north and everywhere I went was only NVA (no V.C.) and it was a free fire zone. If it moved, it was fair game.
That said, may I recommend a book I just finished that really might help you bring this full circle. You may not agree with all of it but it’s hard to deny the cold statistics. It’s not long and a very easy read.
“An American Amnesia (How the U.S. Congress Forced the Surrenders of South Vietnam and Cambodia)” by Bruce Herschensohn
Just a suggestion ……….. one veteran to another.
jt
July 24th, 2010
6:36 pm
popeye
pacifist here too.
popeye was a squid you know.
I’m out.
Saul Good
July 24th, 2010
6:36 pm
Scout: “True. Its something inate within us to want to live forever ………………
AND ! That is possible ………. if one is ready to go through salvation in Jesus Christ !
Just sayin ……………”
Right…only those that belong to YOUR cult get to live forever and ever…
Same thing that ALL of the human created cults have in common: A “fear” of death…and a human penned fable/set of rules that it’s cult members need to follow in order to get to live forever…
good luck with that…
I’ll continue to believe that THIS is the ONLY life we all have been handed and it’s better to make good use of the time we have “here”…now… instead of worrying about getting to the “next” life which none of your cult’s leaders can prove to exist.
Scout
July 24th, 2010
6:42 pm
jt: He said he was Army
Saul Good: I hear you ………….. sadly.
Paulo977
July 24th, 2010
6:50 pm
SPQR ..join you for our friends on the gulf coast…lest we forget this beauty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejLKrZqFpbg
Saul Good
July 24th, 2010
6:52 pm
Scout:
Sorry you feel that making the most of THIS life and cherishing every moment of it…is something to frown upon. Nothing to “lose” by appreciating this time we have here… I could not think of wasting away my minutes, hours, days, years, etc by working on getting to the “next” life… I’ll simply add it up to simply be time “wasted”…
What’s a better use of one’s time? An hour praying to get to the next “world”… or an hour used helping one in need here and now?
theyeshaveit
July 24th, 2010
7:01 pm
Scout,
Are you here? I just finished listening to the entire 43:14 minute video of Ms. Sherrod’s address to the NAACP in March. It was long, but I am by no means exhausted. I am glad that I heard it all, and I am ready to tell you my reasons.
Paulo977
July 24th, 2010
7:06 pm
Saul Good
…The “Now” of course
“It is good to have an end to journey toward; but it is the journey that matters , in the end”
Ursula K.Le Guin
Mick
July 24th, 2010
7:11 pm
saul
What good comes out of disparaging others beliefs? Nothing. Let it be…
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 24th, 2010
7:19 pm
The plan would also shrink the bureaucratic apparatus, in keeping with the government’s goal to effect $30 billion in “efficiency savings” in the health budget by 2014 and to reduce administrative costs by 45 percent. Tens of thousands of jobs would be lost because layers of bureaucracy would be abolished.
Great Britain^^, heh.
We get stupid, they get smart.
Or, they learned the hard way?
Scout
July 24th, 2010
7:21 pm
theyeshavit:
O.K. Let ‘er rip ……………..
P.S. One thing I was looking for ……….. did she call Republicans who were not in favor of Obama’s health care plan racists at any time during her speech ?
Scout
July 24th, 2010
7:22 pm
Saul Good:
Matthew 6:
“19 Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. 20But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. 21For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.”
Saul Good
July 24th, 2010
7:25 pm
Mick: “What good comes out of disparaging others beliefs? Nothing. Let it be…”
You’re right…that’s why I see so many who have “kind” words for Muslims here… most of all my good friend Scout.
Remember… my beliefs are against ALL organized religions/cults… not just a select few. An atheist is no better compared to a christian… but a christian is no better compared to a muslim, a jew, a pagan, hindu, etc…. that seems to be a problem among the followers of cults. Bigotry is bred deep inside of them… it’s that “better” factor…. know what I’m sayin’….?
k… time to enjoy my “soulless” life and the dinner me and mine will be heading out for shortly….
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 24th, 2010
7:27 pm
Congress’ Food Tab: $604,000 for Bottled Water
1) They won’t drink water produced by the government, hahahaha, ahhh, yes.
2) All those empty plastic bottles??????????????????????? Freaking environmental disaster, anyone? Weren’t they just scolding us about this?
3) How much cheaper is tap water?
Hey, they took our cake and are eating it too, just sayin…
Saul Good
July 24th, 2010
7:28 pm
“Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth”
Boy…somebody better clue in the Talibangelical MEGA church leaders… those buildings are expensive! So are their Rolex’s and fat bank accounts! (just think of all the GOOD the riches they collect could do)…
k…now I’m REALLY history tonight…
enjoy the humid evening…
theyeshaveit
July 24th, 2010
7:32 pm
Scout,
Sherrod did not make that statement, but I have located the source of what have been construed as that. Let me show you my transcription, and you can judge. I got a feeling there will be those who will see it one way, and others another.
Here is what was said at the 23:48 mark:
The only difference is that those in power, whether it’s health care or whatever, will do what they have to do to keep that power.
That was followed at 23:58 by this:
I haven’t seen such mean-spirited people as I’ve seen lately on this issue of health care. Some of the racism that we thought was buried [someone in the audience says, "it surfaced"] didn’t it surface? Now, we endured eight years of the Bushes and we didn’t do the stuff that these Republicans are doing because you have a black president.
So, I will say that did not call Republicans opposed to Health Care “racists”. She did say that in the course of the debate over health, that racism, thought to be buried, had surfaced. I think that is a different statement than what has been construed by some on the right.
Again, it is very important, in fact, critical in our understanding of Ms. Sherrod, that she was telling the group assemble that one must get over any racism no matter the victim or the perpetrator. She goes on to say these things:
Like I told you, God helped me to see that it is not just about black people; it is about poor people.
And as my mother has said to so many, “If we had tried to live with hate in our hearts, we would probably be dead now.”
And it is sad that we do not have a room full of whites and blacks here tonight. Because we have to overcome the divisions that we have.
Link: http://www.naacp.org/news/entry/video_sherrod/
Scout
July 24th, 2010
7:37 pm
Saul Good :
No ……. you have a valid point there.
Remember, “not everyone who calls Me Lord, Lord will enter the Kingdom of Heaven”
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 24th, 2010
7:40 pm
Racism is the most powerful and toxic accusation in American discourse, one that derails careers and destroys futures. Yet despite its toxicity it is also the one that requires the least amount of evidence; the racism, we are told, is institutionalized or subterranean, so trust that it’s being divined in good faith. Well, that won’t do. Because there is no penalty for unfairly calling someone a racist, as David Frum points out—if it sticks, a point for your side; if it doesn’t, who cares?
All of this will soon be forgotten, thankfully, and the charming and efficient pundits of Washington, D.C. will go back to observing the “racist” Tea Party movement and that stupid conservatives aren’t stupid but “neo-fascists.” And we’ll be back to business as usual.
Just sayin…
Scout
July 24th, 2010
7:46 pm
eyes:
Wow …….. you went to a lot of work! Thanks.
Points:
1) Yes, what she “said” is somewhat mitigated. “Semantics” is a wonderful thing ………..
2) However, I am getting really tired of this “racist” thing (I won’t even go into the proper definition of the word again). She was representing the United States Department of Agriculture (that’s why she was asked to speak there as opposed to someone off the street) and I believe she is obligated to refrain from being “political” !
3) I made many speeches to Lion’s Clubs, etc. in my official capacity as a Federal law enforcement employee.
I could have made many political statements such as the following and I would have been severely disciplined if someone had complained:
“Most agents would much rather conduct protective advances with Republican staff advance personnel as they are much more courteous, respectful, professional, dress appropriately, are on time, won’t “roll you” on game day and the women are much more attractive and pleasant to work with.”
Now that’s just something I made up (……………..
) but you get my drift.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 24th, 2010
7:47 pm
On the housing front almost every new mortgage written is now being guaranteed by the federal government in one way or another. The irresponsible and slovenly practices that helped create the housing disaster continue: Recently the Senate turned down a proposal that the FHA require borrowers to make a minimum down payment of 5% in order to qualify for an FHA-guaranteed mortgage (currently the minimum is 3.5%).
Some good reading this evening, just sayin…
theyeshaveit
July 24th, 2010
7:48 pm
Scout, you said i> Remember, “not everyone who calls Me Lord, will enter the Kingdom of Heaven”
That is one of the things that Christians say that really troubles. And I know, we are taught to think that way. It is a kind of religious discrimination. And, in my youth, I used to think that Catholicism was the one and only ticket. When I was in 5th grade, one little girl who had a crush on me told me, “We we grow up, we’re going to get married.” I said, “No, we’re not!” She asked, “Why?” “Because,” I said, “You’re Protestant, and I’m Catholic.”
As Ms. Sherrod said, we have to stop putting obstacles and prejudices in front of us, whether it is race or religion. Why should a Christian be any better than anyone who is a non-Christian? There is nothing inherently superior or qualifying about the accident of birth event called baptism. If I suddenly became a Christian again, would God separate me upon my death from my wife who is a good and lovely woman who happens to be a Buddhist?
I don’t think God would ask to see my ID before letting me enter Heaven, do you?
theyeshaveit
July 24th, 2010
7:55 pm
Scout,
Well, I surmise that we might not see Ms. Sherrod’s words quite the same way. I do have a question. In your view, do you differentiate between a person “working as an employee” of the government” and one who is “appointed” by the government? My understanding is that Ms. Sherrod was appointed to her position.
Scout
July 24th, 2010
8:02 pm
eyes:
You have aske the questions of questions and I will be honest.
Remember, Jesus even told the “righteous” religious rulers of His day that they “were of their father the devil” and “were dead in their sins”.
Why? Because they did not “believe” in Him. Now what does “believe” really mean?
Look at it this way. The true church of Jesus Christ is “invisible”. Only God knows …….. that’s why He said “not everyone who calls Me Lord, Lord”, etc.
Being a Christian is NOT:
1) Being baptised at birth (the baby doesn’t know what it is doing and just gets wet)
2) Being a member of any particular denomination, church or order (Catholic or Protestant)
3) Being a child of Chrisitan parents
4) Being a preacher, deacon, priest, Sunday School teacher or whatever
5) Giving millions to the poor
6) Being a “good person” and doing “good works”
7) I could go on and on ………………
Being a Christian “is” havinig a “personal relationship” with Jesus Christ !
How is that accomplished.
1) Realizing you are a sinner.
2) Realizing you are doomed to eternity without God.
3) Asking the Father to forgive you of your sins (not sorry you got caught but truly repentanat)
4) Believing that Jesus died on the cross as YOUR substitute for YOUR sins
5) Askiing Him to come into your heart and be your Saviour
6) Believing that He will do that !
It is a “free gift” but you must reach up and take it !
“Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved”
Only God know who are in the fold and who He will have to separate for eternity. That’s hard to understand because we don’t have the mind of God.
If you are not sure of your salvation you can nail it down tonight !
“These things are written that you may KNOW you have eternal life.”
Simply kneel down by your bed or somewhere and ask God to forgive and Jesus to come into your life !
It’s just that simple ………. and the devil wants to confuse you into not believing that.
Scout
July 24th, 2010
8:05 pm
Regarding your 7:55
One can argue that an “appointed” person who serves at the pleasure of the President is different from a “Civil Service” employee like I was. However, the Director of my agency was “appointed” and he would have been history had he gone political in the way that she did.
In any case, it just continues to be divisive.
Del
July 24th, 2010
8:16 pm
“atrocities we committed”
No idea how many they committed…yeah sure. No further comment. out
Scout
July 24th, 2010
8:18 pm
Del:
The 10%
jt showed me this earlier. You need to read it.
http://www.gonzotimes.com/2576/fear-and-loathing-in-the-u-s-m-c-part-2-brainwashed-in-the-u-s-m-c/
Scout
July 24th, 2010
8:18 pm
Got to run for awhile. Back later ………………….
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
July 24th, 2010
8:20 pm
A recent study of 44 major fiscal adjustments in developed nations since 1975 found that a one-percentage-point increase in taxes as a portion of GDP cuts annual economic growth by an average of 0.9 percentage points. Reducing government expenditures by one percentage point, in contrast, increases average annual growth by 0.6 percentage points.
Why do the libs always do the most destructive thing they can?
SPQR(laissez Faire)
July 24th, 2010
8:27 pm
I’m not religious either, so pardon my ignorance of the subject, but is the Buddhist faith budha the same fat gold ‘lil b*stard who’s belly I rub for luck at mo-mo-ya, before knocking back a few kirin ??
Del
July 24th, 2010
8:28 pm
When I start reading or hearing this crap about American atrocities in Vietnam I really want to retch as my blood reaches the boiling point. Our atrocities were slim and far in comparison. I’m really out…have to go hit something.
SPQR(laissez Faire)
July 24th, 2010
8:30 pm
Del..just call saul!