In some ways, ‘Feisal Abdul Rauf’ is Arabic for ‘Shirley Sherrod’

Feisal Abdul Rauf and Shirley Sherrod have a lot in common.

At first blush, that might seem a strange assertion. Abdul Rauf is a naturalized U.S. citizen and a Muslim imam in New York City; Sherrod is a black woman from the American South. But they have been both selected as targets by a conservative media machine that is so intent on creating useful villains that it pays little or no attention to concepts such as truth or accuracy. The goal is to create “Objects of Hate” that can then be used to inflame the American public.

Abdul Rauf, for example, describes himself as “both a Muslim and an American citizen, as proud of the important and fundamental principles that America stands for as I am the important and fundamental principles for which Islam stands.”

In fact, Abdul Rauf argues, the reason so many Muslims flee their native countries to come here is because the United States is actually more true to Islamic principles of “human equality, human liberty and social justice” than many so-called Islamic societies.

He proclaims himself a patriotic American, and has harshly condemned violent extremists who cite Islam as their inspiration. September 11, Abdul Rauf says, is “a day that will live in infamy,” noting that “no nation could suffer such an assault without responding in a very robust way.” In the wake of bombing attacks in Great Britian in 2005, he expressed “a sense of deep revulsion,” said that true Muslims “naturally condemn the brutal attacks in London in the most unequivocal terms,” and urged British Muslims to cooperate with law enforcement in identifying and capturing those involved.

Abdul Rauf has also worked tirelessly to promote better relations among the Jewish, Christian and Islamic faiths. Rabbi David Rosen, who heads the American Jewish Committee’s international interreligious affairs department in Jerusalem, calls him “an important voice of moderation,” and Jewish Week has lauded him as “a key voice of reason among Muslim leaders here.”

In 2003, Abdul Rauf joined Rabbi Israel Singer, chairman of the World Jewish Congress, along with members of the Israeli Knesset and Palestinian leaders, in an initiative to bring moderate Palestinians and Israelis together to try to find common ground.

In his 2004 book, “What’s Right with Islam is What’s Right with America,” Abdul Rauf writes that the future of Islam will depend on its acceptance of a form of democratic capitalism. Toward that end, he stresses the emergence of what he calls an “American Islam.” Catholic immigrants, he notes, came to this country and in time created a distinctive American Catholicism, which in turn influenced Catholicism as a whole. Jewish immigrants likewise created a distinctly American version of Judaism, which has also influenced the larger faith.

The creation of an American Islam, Abdul Rauf believes, can help modernize Islam globally and in the process ease the strains between his adopted country and his faith.

Abdul Rauf is, in other words, everything that critics of Islam claim they want to see. More importantly, his moderate, pro-American message has proved so appealing to fellow U.S. Muslims that his mosque has outgrown its origins in a lower Manhattan storefront and needs to expand. He and his congregation envision a 13-story complex on Park Street in lower Manhattan, modeled after the 92nd Street YMCA and the Jewish Community Center in New York. The facility would include a community center, auditorium, mosque, swimming pool and restaurants.

The local community board in lower Manhattan, which no doubt includes many who experienced September 11 firsthand, has voted 29-1 to approve the project’s construction, strong testimony to the faith they have in Abdul Rauf’s mission.

“I think they need to establish a place such as this for people of goodwill from mainline Christian, Jewish and Muslim faiths so we can come together to talk,” said Father Kevin Madigan of St. Peter’s Catholic Church, located a block away from the proposed facility.

In some circles, however, Abdul Rauf’s proposed mosque has become better known as the “Ground Zero mosque.” (It is actually located two city blocks away from Ground Zero, with no view of the site.) Both Abdul Rauf and the proposed project have become the target of a vicious, concerted smear motivated in part by irrational if sincere fear, and in part by cynical opportunists who hope to profit by that fear.

The ad above, for example, was put together by the Republican National Trust PAC. The group supposedly tried to buy air time to put the ad on CBS and NBC but was rejected. (The Republican National Trust is a major player in the PAC world. In the 2008 cycle, it spent more than $8 million trying to beat Barack Obama, plus another $434,000 helping to elect Saxby Chambliss here in Georgia.)

Interestingly, there is no indication that RNTPAC tried to place the ad on Fox News, which makes sense for a couple of reasons. A rejection by Fox would have undercut the group’s effort to depict itself as a victim of liberal censorship. And besides, why pay for something that you’re going to get for free anyway?

palin's+mosque+tweet+7-17-2010
Fox has played a major role in ginning up conservative opposition to the mosque. Sean Hannity has shown the ad on his Fox show, condemning Abdul Rauf as an “extremist” and a champion of “radical Islam.” Sarah Palin has gotten involved, using Twitter to beg “peaceful Muslims” to “refutiate” the mosque, as if to imply that Abdul Rauf must be a member of al Qaida.

Rick Lazio, the GOP candidate for governor in New York, has come out in opposition to the mosque, trying to use the issue to boost his campaign. That led the Port Authority Police Benevolent Association to rebuke Lazio, warning that “for any candidate for public office to politicize Ground Zero shows a lack of respect to the families, who will forever live with the terrible memory of that dark day…. This conduct forsakes the memory of all those who lost their lives on September 11th.”

On NPR, Sam Nunberg of the Center for Law and Justice has warned that approving the mosque “would be like removing the sunken ship in Pearl Harbor to erect a memorial to the Japanese kamikazes killed in the attack.” Pamela Geller, a prominent conservative blogger who appeared on CNN to debate the mosque, called Abdul Rauf a “stealth jihadist” and the mosque itself “an act of jihad.” Lt. Gen. Jerry Boykin, now retired but once the head of U.S. military intelligence in the Rumsfeld Pentagon, told a conference at Colorado Christian College that the mosque was part of “the incremental taking over of our nation.”

In each and every case cited above, opponents of the mosque have refused to allow a distinction to be made between Islamic extremists and Muslims of demonstrated good faith such as Abdul Rauf. Critics of the Islamic community complain repeatedly that they don’t hear enough from moderates, but it’s pretty clear from this example that they do not hear because they refuse to listen.

Karen Armstrong, one of the most respected religious scholars of her generation, wrote something that now seems all too prescient in her foreward to Abdul Rauf’s book.

“It is vital that we know who our enemies are, but it is equally important to know who they are not. Only a tiny proportion of Muslims take part in acts of terror and violence. If our media and politicians continue to denigrate Islam, accepting without question the stereotypical view that has prevailed in the West since the time of the Crusades, we will eventually alienate Muslims who have no quarrel with the West, who are either enjoying or longing for greater democracy, and who are horrified by the atrocities committed in the name of their faith.”

Finally, I’d like to close with a video of the “stealth jihadist” himself, appearing at a public hearing about the proposed mosque. Watch and listen, then compare Abdul Rauf’s message to the message of the video at the top of this post.

Ask yourself: Who is the purveyor of racial hate and fear, and who is the healer? Who is the extremist, and who is the moderate? Who is the danger to this country, and who is its friend?

576 comments Add your comment

Fly-On-The-Wall

July 21st, 2010
9:41 am

Fear is the key to everything conservative. Without it they can not win.

Fly-On-The-Wall

July 21st, 2010
9:41 am

Woo Hoo! A first for me! Being first on the first page. Now I can retire. ;)

lei mi sei

July 21st, 2010
9:44 am

This is an interesting story J.B. and hopefully will be a lesson to the many half cocked haters.

mm

July 21st, 2010
9:46 am

What the fearmongering GOP fails to say is that this mosque would be 2 bolcks away from ground zero.

Southern Comfort (EOI and disfunctional since 2010)

July 21st, 2010
9:49 am

I was wondering about whether or not you were going to touch on this.

Amendment 1: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;…

If Islam is an established religion, which it is, the government was right in approving their request. Those who oppose it may, indeed, have valid points, but until it’s illegal, the Imam has as much of a right to build as does Joel Osteen or Billy Graham.

Buckagon

July 21st, 2010
9:51 am

Interesting. I listen (when I am able) to Boortz, Rush, Medved, etc. I never heard of this guy. I have heard of the Mosque at ground zero however.

It is no surprise then that the American-apologetic, pro-Obama, progressive ajc would do an expose under the guise of “a guy that the evil talk show hosts hate.” As a witness, I don’t think they do hate him. It seems that the American sentiment right now wants no mosque there. Such things do come up before public zoning boards, city councils and so forth. Public comments are part of the process.

No sense in trying to make us feel guilty about it, Jay. Nice try though.

Peckerwood

July 21st, 2010
9:52 am

Only a fool could look at the entire video and claim that this women wasnt bigoted or racist in her condemnation of this “white farmer”. Regardless of the point she was trying to make her speak was overtly racial and she deserves to be fired from any position regardless of whether it is a public or private sector position.

Lastly the acceptance she received from the all black audience isnt surprising at all. Secretly when they think no one is listening alot of blacks make the most ardent white racist pale in comparision. Go listen to a black preacher give a sermon to see that Jeremiah Wright is much more the norm in the black community than the left would have us believe.

larry

July 21st, 2010
9:56 am

I understand some of the 9/11 families have come out against this. I can understand why.

But what is a better way to tell the terrorists that they did not win. AQ thrives on telling their people that the U.S. is against Islam and all that.

Buckagon

July 21st, 2010
9:57 am

I might add that the rate at which the biased left-wing media contributes stories and headlines such as, “CONSERVATIVE AD (or statement or action or whatever) CAUSES CONTROVERSY”, ought to be predictable and old-hat by now. Those who read the ajc for unbiased information are either ignorant or biased themselves. There is a good reason why Bookman the editorialist and CNN, the supposed media outlet are in complete sync on this.

USinUK

July 21st, 2010
9:57 am

peckerwood – we heard you downstairs. now, go play – the grown-ups are talking.

Southern Comfort (EOI and disfunctional since 2010)

July 21st, 2010
9:58 am

Peckerwood

Go peddle that speech on Breitbart’s site.

Stonethrower

July 21st, 2010
9:59 am

Interesting points Peckerwood. You forgot to add that they love fried chicken, watermelon, are lazy and just love to dance!

USinUK

July 21st, 2010
9:59 am

so, first the righties cry out “where are the islamic moderates??!!”, then when one shows up – one who actually works in an ecumenical way, bringing together different religions for a peaceful dialogue, they STILL brand him a terrorist.

I’d like to say I’m surprised …

USinUK

July 21st, 2010
10:00 am

dammit, stone … that made me snort.

Doggone/GA

July 21st, 2010
10:01 am

“It seems that the American sentiment right now wants no mosque there. Such things do come up before public zoning boards”

That’s what they want you to think. I’m part of the “American sentiment” and I have NO problem with them placing that mosque anywhere it’s approved to be built. Many Muslims died in the WTC collapse too, you know.

Finn McCool

July 21st, 2010
10:02 am

Secretly when they think no one is listening alot of blacks make the most ardent white racist pale in comparision.

to rephrase: “I knows how THEM people think about me – being all white and all – I’s so scared I ain’t leavin’ the trailer till 2012!”

Southern Comfort (EOI and disfunctional since 2010)

July 21st, 2010
10:03 am

It’s a sad day when politicians want to deny Americans the very rights that our Founding Fathers gave them. Or was the rights only reserved for specific classes of citizens?

Southern Comfort (EOI and disfunctional since 2010)

July 21st, 2010
10:04 am

Finn

He fails to realize that if Blacks feel a certain way, we don’t wait to talk about it in private. We’ll let you know how we feel up front. He needs to attend a Black Church. Maybe he’ll find Jesus.

mary

July 21st, 2010
10:04 am

Come on GOP, refudiate hate and fear, you can do it!

Finn McCool

July 21st, 2010
10:04 am

Star Spangled Banner:O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave

or is it: Land of the white christians, home of the scared-as-hell white christians

USinUK

July 21st, 2010
10:05 am

USinUK

July 21st, 2010
10:06 am

The Orange Pekoe Brigade motto: Ignore the first, yell and scream about the second.

Scott

July 21st, 2010
10:08 am

I see the pro-jihadist left is fully represented here today.

Finn McCool

July 21st, 2010
10:08 am

Does the house have the votes to give the unemployed their benefits?

Doggone/GA

July 21st, 2010
10:08 am

And speaking of the YMCA – has anyone else seen that they are now dropping “Mens” & “Christian” & “Assocation” from their name? In fact, they are even dropping “Young” – and will now just be “The Y”

Jay

July 21st, 2010
10:10 am

Is Abdul Rauf a “jihadist” in your book, Scott?

Moderate Line

July 21st, 2010
10:10 am

Who would have thought that conservative or Christians would find it insensitive to build a mosque near ground zero.

I don’t understand why people are offended by the sight of the southern battle flag but I recognize the fact that they are.

The people who erect these flags claim the flag has nothing to do with race and maybe they are telling the truth but a large percentage of people used the flag as a symbol of racism which can’t be denied. The people who attack the world trade center used religion as part of their justification for attacking the World Trade Center. The people building the mosque should be sensitive to that issue.

A moderate of any kind must be sensitive to how people react to their own actions even if their is no foul intent. Therefor, I don’t believe it can be the act of a moderation to build a church anywhere near ground zero. It would seem to me if they were truly moderates they would back off until a time period when such actions are not viewed as offensive.

However, I don’t believe the mosque should be stop unless you stop all religious organizations from building in the area.

We have had lecturers from the left on how we should be sensitive to people about race, religion, gender, sexual preference and national origin. We must bend over backwards not to offend people based on those subjects unless you are Christian, conservative or white.

USinUK

July 21st, 2010
10:10 am

sorry, Scott, the only jihad I’m for is against tourists who insist on stopping at the top of an elevator, blocking everyone else’s way while they try to read their maps.

oh. and Celine Deion.

Doggone/GA

July 21st, 2010
10:11 am

“Does the house have the votes to give the unemployed their benefits?”

As of this AM they had enough to break the filibuster, now they just have to vote on the bill.

USinUK

July 21st, 2010
10:11 am

“and will now just be “The Y””

um – that will significantly change the song (and corresponding dance).

at the Yyyyyyyyyyy

talking ’bout the Yyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Granny Godzilla

July 21st, 2010
10:11 am

Of course it’s not just in New York.
Mosque-a-phobia is all over. Such silliness.

A Pakistani friend of mine refers to taking her children to mosque
as going to church to protect herself. Funny thing, she has to pinch the kids to keep them well behaved in mosque just like the rest of us have had to do in church/chapel/temple.

USinUK

July 21st, 2010
10:12 am

d-OH – my 10:10 should read ESCALLATOR, not elevator …

Doggone/GA

July 21st, 2010
10:12 am

“Is Abdul Rauf a “jihadist” in your book, Scott?”

Does Scott even know what “jihad” REALLY means…as opposed to the debased and false “meaning” given to it by those who fear bugaboos?

Doggone/GA

July 21st, 2010
10:13 am

“that will significantly change the song (and corresponding dance).”

Well, not according to the Village People…they say they aren’t going to change the song.

Doggone/GA

July 21st, 2010
10:15 am

USinUK – “should read ESCALLATOR, not elevator ”

Actually, it’s “escalator” – but elevator works too!

Tom

July 21st, 2010
10:16 am

I can’t stand bigots.

…..or the Dutch.

Finn McCool

July 21st, 2010
10:17 am

The simple fact that the guy edited the video of Sherrod and thought “no one will go back and look at the rest of the tape” should get ANYONE with a brain to consider perhaps this guy is maybe not the dumbest guy on the continent …but kinda close.

What does the righty wingnuts pull out for comparison? Dan Rather? Not even close.

Pennsylvanian

July 21st, 2010
10:17 am

It is not a sin to lie to infidels. Just sayin….

Scott

July 21st, 2010
10:18 am

Jay, if this guy is the same one that wants to have this mosque opened up on 9-11 then yes.

Finn McCool

July 21st, 2010
10:18 am

talking ’bout the Yyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

hehehe

Larry Smith

July 21st, 2010
10:19 am

No they are not the same…. one came to America of his own free will. The other was stolen. One have had laws stopping her from participating in the American dream The other is benefiting from the sacrifices of the struggles of Black Americans. One father was killed by white terrorist sanctioned by the US government. The other only has the tea party. Stop trying to make everyone Black Americans equals because they are not.

Moderate Line

July 21st, 2010
10:20 am

First, I don’t believe Shirley Sherrod should be fired. I believe the person who fired here should be fired.

Second, in her own words she admitted to acts which were racist. She admitted initially she only was only doing the bare minimum because he was white. She took him to one of his “own.” What is a car dealer assigned salesman based on the customer being one of their “own.” Or a real estate company doing such a thing.

It is great that she eventually overcame her own prejudices and help the white farmer. Based on the full video she did not help him until he called her and complained about not being helped.

Outhouse GoKart

July 21st, 2010
10:20 am

YMCA…old hat dance.

USinUK

July 21st, 2010
10:21 am

SPQR(laissez Faire)

July 21st, 2010
10:21 am

Even bookmans ’so-called’ “muslims of good faith” follow the same perverted pedophile and rever his every drunken utterance in the koran, which does instruct violence against the infidel, as the swarthiest sweaty wild eyed shoe boming jihadist. To HELL with islam, to HELL with mohammed the pedophile child rapist, and to HELL with Obama(for good measure)

deegee

July 21st, 2010
10:22 am

If the local community board have voted 29-1 to approve the project then why should the opinion of anyone else matter? Rauf already has a mosque in lower Manhattan so what Muslim is going to “refutiate” it? Why does anyone give a ratz azz about what Hannity and Palin think? They are to cable news as Randy Orton and Melina are to professional wrestling.

Doggone/GA

July 21st, 2010
10:22 am

“Jay, if this guy is the same one that wants to have this mosque opened up on 9-11 then yes”

“falsely reported that the Muslim community center and mosque set to be built near Ground Zero will open on the anniversary of 9-11. However, Daisy Khan, executive director of one of the organizations leading the project, told Media Matters that the allegation is “absolutely false” and that “the timeline has yet to be determined.”

http://mediamatters.org/research/201007200004

SPQR(laissez Faire)

July 21st, 2010
10:23 am

I wasn’t around here back then, but , Bookman and the whiney leftists on the board, did you whine this loud when ” Washington, DC’s black Mayor, Anthony Williams, gladly accepted the resignation of his white staff member, David Howard, because Mr. Howard uttered the word ‘n**gardly’ in a private staff meeting.”

Finn McCool

July 21st, 2010
10:23 am

Hopefully the AJC shuts down soon and you get bumped to your rightful place in life, Jay…rattling a tin cup full of pencils on the corner of Highland Ave. and Boulevard.

Yeah Jay! Get your tin cup ready!…hey, where does one buy a tin cup anyway??

USinUK

July 21st, 2010
10:23 am

deegee – didn’t you get the memo? 9/11 happened to the “heartland” FAR MORE than it happened to NY and DC.

Buckagon

July 21st, 2010
10:24 am

Doggone,

Of course you’re part of the American sentiment. This the way it works. Liberals throw a hissy fit. Liberal elected officials cave. Conservatives voice a strong opinion and then liberals throw another hissy fit. Suddenly, we have a “controversy”, even though the process itself (that is, allowing zoning board comments to be heard openly) is done everyday and is thus non-controversial.

USinUK

July 21st, 2010
10:25 am

SPQR – “Bookman and the whiney leftists on the board, did you whine this loud when ” Washington, DC’s black Mayor, Anthony Williams, gladly accepted the resignation of his white staff member, David Howard, because Mr. Howard uttered the word ‘n**gardly’ in a private staff meeting.””

well, since that was actually in the pre-blog days, no one could blog about it, but I was sure as hell pi$$ed that someone was fired for using a word correctly.

RB from Gwinnett

July 21st, 2010
10:26 am

“media machine that is so intent on creating useful villains that it pays little or no attention to concepts such as truth or accuracy”

Are you serious, Jay? Does the name Sarah Palin ring a bell?

What a pathetic partisan hack you are. Dang…. Look in the mirror.

USinUK

July 21st, 2010
10:26 am

“Conservatives throw a hissy fit. Liberal elected officials cave”

there ya go. typo fixed, free of charge.

Southern Comfort (EOI and disfunctional since 2010)

July 21st, 2010
10:27 am

deegee

Nobody wants to talk about the fact that they already worship in lower Manhattan. As I posted above, I don’t think the 1st Amendmend has a Islam exception clause. The freedom loving right seems to not want to rely on the sacred Constitution when it runs counter to what the believe.

Finn McCool

July 21st, 2010
10:27 am

However, Daisy Khan, executive director of one of the organizations leading the project, told Media Matters that the allegation is “absolutely false” and that “the time line has yet to be determined.”

Doggone is blowing them racists little white lie sheeeot out of the water. Y’all keep throwing it out there and Doggone will keep tweaking your little dimples.

USinUK

July 21st, 2010
10:27 am

(oh, and SPQR, he was reinstated)

MILES

July 21st, 2010
10:29 am

why are conservative christians afraid of a mosque..both religions are actually the same; both talk to an invisible god that never talks back

Finn McCool

July 21st, 2010
10:29 am

RB, you got to do better than that, son.

Sara Palin and truth and accuracy? When was she questioned on truth and accuracy?

Ohhhhh! She really can see Russia from her porch. Sorry, i forgot!

ty webb

July 21st, 2010
10:29 am

wow, jay’s really found a rallying cry. He sure is circling the wagons around an allegedy reformed self professed former racist. but more importantly, how can jay defend a puveyor of hate such as Feisal Abdul Rauf, what with islam’s stance on homosexuality and all.

@@

July 21st, 2010
10:30 am

Admittedly, I didn’t read your entire piece, jay, but I can’t ignore the fact that over half of the people in NYC and families of the victims oppose the location of this mosque.

Feel free to build it somewhere else, just not ground zero.

USinUK

July 21st, 2010
10:30 am

“islam’s stance on homosexuality and all”

:lol: as opposed to the Leviticus verses that conserva-christians like to quote??

deegee

July 21st, 2010
10:31 am

Silly me, I suppose I missed the memo that reads that American Jews, Muslims, Christians, Buddhists, etc., have been living and working together peacefully in New York city for a couple of centuries.

jewcowboy

July 21st, 2010
10:31 am

“um – that will significantly change the song (and corresponding dance)”

I love watching straight people at weddings dance to a song about gay men hooking up in the showers at a gym…freakin’ priceless.

USinUK

July 21st, 2010
10:31 am

“just not ground zero”

it’s 2 blocks away. it’s not ground zero.

Normal

July 21st, 2010
10:32 am

As true today as it was in ‘59…

They’re rioting in Africa. They’re starving in Spain. There’s hurricanes in Florida, and Texas needs rain.
The whole world is festering with unhappy souls. The French hate the Germans, the Germans hate the Poles.
Italians hate Yugoslavs, South Africans hate the Dutch. And I don’t like anybody very much!
But we can be tranquil and thankful and proud, for man’s been endowed with a mushroom-shaped cloud.
And we know for certain that some lovely day, someone will set the spark off… and we will all be blown away.
They’re rioting in Africa. There’s strife in Iran. What nature doesn’t do to us… will be done by our fellow man.

Jay

July 21st, 2010
10:32 am

For the record, folks, NRB2 is banned. It wasn’t my call, but I also didn’t argue with it. We had too many complaints from readers about his repeated “by the ballot or by the cartridge” baloney.

In that most recent post, he even had a picture of Timothy McVeigh as his avatar.

Absolutely pathetic.

USinUK

July 21st, 2010
10:32 am

jcb – what??? that’s what the song is about? I thought it was about a place for people to get themselves clean and have a good meal!

ty webb

July 21st, 2010
10:34 am

UsinUK,
if one’s a hater, so is the other. right?

Normal

July 21st, 2010
10:34 am

But…but…but…isn’t this what we are all about? The right to worship where we want, when we want, and how we want?

USinUK

July 21st, 2010
10:35 am

ty – you’re talking to someone who doesn’t believe in organized religion – I don’t know if I’m the best person for you to ask that question :-)

Southern Comfort (EOI and disfunctional since 2010)

July 21st, 2010
10:35 am

Jay

I guess the art of reasoned debate is becoming a lost art in our society.

USinUK

July 21st, 2010
10:36 am

Normal – nope – the right to worship and commune where the heartland thinks is appropriate, when the hearland thinks is appropriate and how the heartland thinks is appropriate.

after all, they are the “real” americans – the folks on the coasts (particularly NY and CA) don’t. count.

Pennsylvanian

July 21st, 2010
10:37 am

Car 54; Where are you?

jewcowboy

July 21st, 2010
10:38 am

Normal,

“The right to worship where we want, when we want, and how we want?”

Don’t be silly…that is only a christian right as this is a christian nation with christianity as our national religion and the church choosing our leaders for us.

Finn McCool

July 21st, 2010
10:39 am

What! Avatar? How do we get an avatar!

Southern Comfort (EOI and disfunctional since 2010)

July 21st, 2010
10:39 am

SPQR(laissez Faire)

July 21st, 2010
10:39 am

since the topic is stupid(islam is stupid) I have one off topic then taking a jog..

July 21, 2010 – Obama Approval Drops To Lowest Point Ever, Quinnipiac University National Poll Finds; Independent Voters Turn On President Since Honeymoon .

A year after President Barack Obama’s political honeymoon ended, his job approval rating has dropped to a negative 44 – 48 percent, his worst net score ever, and American voters say by a narrow 39 – 36 percent margin that they would vote for an unnamed Republican rather than President Obama in 2012, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today.

to paraphrase others on the blog, what a difference a year and 4.5 trillion in deficit spending makes

But theres even more good news for dems..

Hussein O. gets a positive job approval from just 37% of whites, 38% of independents and 39% of men – a roughly 30% drop in all three groups in his support.

And the bleeding has spread to his fellow Democrats on Capitol Hill. In July 2009, voters said by 42%-34% that they would back a Democrat for Congress; today, they said they prefer a Republican, 43%-38%. The drop-off among the various demographic groups is similar to that for the president.

Quinipac survey.. No Biden, I

@@

July 21st, 2010
10:39 am

We had too many complaints from readers about his repeated “by the ballot or by the cartridge” baloney.

Readers, eh?

Normal:

I left a message for you downstairs. 10:02

I’m out!

Jay

July 21st, 2010
10:40 am

Maybe so, SoCo. But they’ll have to pry the keyboard out of my cold, dead hands before I give in.

Or something like that.

josef nix

July 21st, 2010
10:40 am

The imam makes a very good point in referencing the 92nd St. Y and the struggle Northern Jews had to go through in their own assimilation and recognition process to become “a portion of the people.” Our Muslim population today is facing many of the same problems. We have as a country been down this road before. It is a positive lesson from our past. Let’s learn from it.

Finn McCool

July 21st, 2010
10:41 am

I don’t think proximity to Ground zero is the real issue. The real issue is that it is going up ANYWHERE!

Freedom of religion? Um, those are just words in some long forgotten document.

ncgreybr

July 21st, 2010
10:42 am

How far does it have to be before they are permitted to build their mosque? 3 blocks for Ground Zero? 5 block? 6 1/2 blocks? 9 blocks? Brooklyn? What if it was a Christian Church, would they be allowed to build? Would that be offensive to the Muslims who were killed in the Towers?

Paul

July 21st, 2010
10:43 am

Why is this even a topic? A reference a few days back regarding Centcom’s counterinsurgency doctrine is in conflict with the Obama Administration’s position on this overarching concept: Islam has nothing to do with the war we’re engaged in.

“The White House’s official policy of banning the word “Islam” in describing America’s terrorist enemies is in direct conflict with the U.S. military’s war-fighting doctrine now guiding commanders in Iraq and Afghanistan.

John O. Brennan, President Obama’s chief national security adviser for counterterrorism, delivered a major policy address on defining the enemy. He laid out the White House policy of detaching any reference to Islam when referring to terrorists, be it al Qaeda, the Taliban or any other group. ”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/jul/11/obama-at-odds-with-petraeus-doctrine-on-islam/

So this whole mosque thing is a red herring. Islamic jihadist involvement in 9-11 was nearly a decade ago. We’re in Afghanistan not because of Islamists. “Mr. Brennan also said: “The president’s strategy is absolutely clear about the threat we face. Our enemy is not terrorism because terrorism is but a tactic. Our enemy is not terror because terror is a state of mind and, as Americans, we refuse to live in fear. Nor do we describe our enemy as jihadists or Islamists because jihad is holy struggle, a legitimate tenet of Islam meaning to purify oneself of one’s community.”

Sigh.

and… sarc!

Seriously, I saw the ad when it ran. Found it simplistic, deceiving and appealing to base emotion. Just like a lot of election ads.

jewcowboy

July 21st, 2010
10:43 am

Ruh-roh!

Looks like the illustrious Charmian of the RNC is in it again:

“RNC fails to report $7M in debt to FEC
Party treasurer faults Steele”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/jul/20/rnc-fails-to-report-to-fec-7-million-in-debt/

Michael Steele is a gift to the Democrats that just keeps on giving. It also sort of reminds me of Republicans and Iraq, and knowing when it is time to cut your losses. Or Republicans and fiscal policy. Or Republicans and social issues. Or Republicans and ….my they just don’t seem to learn from their mistakes do they?

Not that Democrats are any better about learning from mistakes. Can we form the Common Sense Party? No politicians allowed.

Sam

July 21st, 2010
10:45 am

good article jay…this is one ogf the few Imam’s who has done exactly as he should (condemned terrorism), expressed his patriotism, and joined the fight….and how is he repayed? by the way, i know that site it aint on ground zero and lots of things are ‘a few blocks’ from there..its lower manhattan for crissakes.

USinUK

July 21st, 2010
10:46 am

JCB – “In a memo to RNC budget committee members, RNC Treasurer Randy Pullen on Tuesday accused Chairman Michael S. Steele and his chief of staff, Michael Leavitt, of trying to conceal the information from him by ordering staff not to communicate with the treasurer – a charge RNC officials deny.

Mr. Pullen told the members that he had discovered $3.3 million in debt from April and $3.8 million from May, which he said had led him to file erroneous reports with the FEC. He amended the FEC filings Tuesday.”

man. if the Moonie Times is reporting this, you KNOW it’s bad.

Paul

July 21st, 2010
10:46 am

USinUK

“as opposed to the Leviticus verses that conserva-christians like to quote??”

I always get confused when conservative Christians cite Orthodox Jewish law…… and I’m not even sure the Orthodox go with all that stuff any more -

Southern Comfort (EOI and disfunctional since 2010)

July 21st, 2010
10:46 am

Jay

I’m with you ’til the end!! How do we get an avatar? I want one!!

josef

Now you know we don’t listen to the past, because it’s just that, the past. If the protestors said that they didn’t want any religious buildings within a two block radius of ground zero, I could see that. However, to lash out at Muslim Americans is to deny them their 1st Amendment right.

@@

July 21st, 2010
10:47 am

Finn:

My neighbors and I spent two years opposing a house church that went up in our neighborhood. We’re all Christians. It was a Christian church. Had nothing to do with the faith they practiced, had everything to do with the location.

Shocked?

Angie

July 21st, 2010
10:47 am

WOW Jay! You stayed up ALL night putting together this touchy-feely comparison of your guy Feisal Abdul Rauf’ to Shirley Sherrod, what–hoping Andrew Breitbart’s “snookering” of ALL of YOU to be so REACTIONARY could be tied to the general discourse within the GOP, Pamela Geller, et al?
Now THAT took a bit of tipsy and a lot of word-scripting to come up with that analogy, huh Jay! I bet you even pulled out your .PDF of the Weather Undergrounds doctrine to bolster this theory—whew, “you go, Jay!”
YOU so-sincere-sounding media “deviants” have forgotten we are NO LONGER IN the dark media era that was up until the 1980s!! Your 1960’s “liberation” goals of CONTINUING TO STIR THE RACIAL WATERS TO AFFECT THE PUBLIC DISCOURSE—helping you ACCOMPLISH YOUR UNDYING AGENDA OF “BRINGING THE U.S. DOWN” to make it caste-equal in the GLOBAL OPINION of us as former “IMPERIALIST”– is evident in YOUR REACTION to this (what I believe to be) INTENDED media hype.
You got THAT, Jay? It’s called, “history”—and believe it or not SOME of us still read it!
Not to mention, Shirley Sherrod may be a REAL ACTIVIST of the NAACP and it’s original principles, but has gotten kicked out by Obama’s administration AND THE NAACP who fell to Brietbart’s game–believing “stupidly” that Sherrod is an upset to all their public image.
No, We know EVERYONE’s AGENDA, and we’re not buying it, Jay–from ANY of you!
Angela Peters
http://thepatriotmessenger.blogspot.com/

Southern Comfort (EOI and disfunctional since 2010)

July 21st, 2010
10:48 am

Good morning, Chief EOI Paul!!!

stands for decibels

July 21st, 2010
10:48 am

If they build the mosque, we won’t be able to sing 9/11 carols around the 9/11 tree!

Paul

July 21st, 2010
10:49 am

Enter your comments here

Finn McCool

July 21st, 2010
10:49 am

Michael Steele is a gift to the Democrats that just keeps on giving.

You could say this about the entire party – now being co-opted by tea partiers. Rove thought they could create a long-term conservative establishment so I bet he’s spent the better part of the last 6 years just shaking his heads.

stands for decibels

July 21st, 2010
10:51 am

a song about gay men hooking up in the showers at a gym…

It IS?

And here I thought it was about finding spiritual redemption, at a time when you are down and out with the blues, when no man cares if you are alive. When the whole world is, in fact, jive.

jewcowboy

July 21st, 2010
10:51 am

USinUK.

“man. if the Moonie Times is reporting this, you KNOW it’s bad.”

Right?

“”The RNC normally uses its own inside counsel to deal with the FEC,” said Mr. von Spakovsky, a Heritage Foundation legal scholar. “But if I had a really serious problem with the FEC, Michael Toner is one of the first guys I would turn to help me out.”

And when the Heritage Foundation is questioning why the RNC is retaining outside counsel…

USinUK

July 21st, 2010
10:52 am

Paul – 10:46 – yep – strict adherence to the anti-gay verses, conveniently ignore the verses about wearing different types of cloth, not working on the sabbath, no pork/shellfish …

Cafeteria Christians?

jewcowboy

July 21st, 2010
10:53 am

stands for decibels,

“If they build the mosque, we won’t be able to sing 9/11 carols around the 9/11 tree!”

Whatever will Rudi do?

Paul

July 21st, 2010
10:53 am

And good morning to you, too, SoComEOI!

Seriously, that’s a raw issue for a lot of folks who live near there. Lots of mourning for lost loved ones still going on. I understand what Jay said about the good work some of the Muslim community people have been doing there, but I’m not sure how much exposure he’s had to counter what so many other see – an enemy who takes it as part of their religion to destroy infidels, reestablish the caliphate, etc etc etc.

Guess it gives us a bit better appreciation for some Israelis who are asked to make more concessions to specific groups who still won’t say they have a right to live.