In the curious case of Shirley Sherrod, let’s see the whole tape

Sticking it to “dun man”.

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Andrew Breitbart, of Big Government, also brought us the ACORN ‘prostitute’ story:

http://biggovernment.com/author/abreitbart/

This is nothing but another hatchet job by the Right.

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“Shows that they are racists”

It shows some of them are bigoted. YOU are a racist. “crows”

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Obama supports the Black Panters killing white baby’s via no condemnation.
Obama supports illegal immigration.
Obama supports the FALN terrorists via hiring the man who pardoned them, Eric Holder
Obama supports bombing of the pentagon via his friendship with the bomber, Billy.
Obama supports the destruction of the USA by his 20 years of listening to his preacher preach “God Danm America”.

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CC – KEEP those lies coming.

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The AJC is a commie rag.
That is why your sales are down, down, down.
Fox News is the only news outlet left concerned with truth, justice and the (old) American way.

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There is no defense for racism, and the defense of this woman’s blatant racism is disgusting.

But…the best thing that could happen to expose the double standard in regards for racism is for folks like you to defend her. Let’s get Benjamin and Malik and Sharpton and Jackson all down here to make their traditional big scene and expose them all, yet again, for their racially entrenched behavior.

There is a limit to this, and it may not be pleasant once the limit is reached.

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The internet access to millions with edited “proofs” is like primitive man with fire; at once helpful and dangerous.

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“There is a limit to this, and it may not be pleasant once the limit is reached”

NIF? Is that you?

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awww.let’s talk math instead…

This Indian chief had three wives, which all happened to be pregnant at the same time. When the first wife gave birth, the chief went into the teepee. He came out beaming with joy. The chief announced that he was now the proud father of a handsome little boy. He declared to the tribe. “I will show my happiness by building the mother a teepee made from deer hides!”
When wife number two had her baby, he repeated the process. After announcing the arrival of another son, the chief vowed to build its’ mother a teepee made from antelope hides.
When the third wife gave birth, the chief swelled with pride. He said. “I am going to build this squaw a teepee made of Hippopotamus skins!” “Who can tell me what this squaw had?” The members of the tribe whispered amongst themselves, but none could come up with the right answer. Finally, one young brave spoke out. “She had twin sons!” “That’s right,” declared the chief. “How did you figure it out, Pathagarus?” “Simple mathematics,” said the brave. “The value of the squaw of the hippopotamus is equal to the sons of the squaws of the two other hides.”

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Is Shawn Hannity moonlighting.

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I’m just waiting for a cry of “Wolverines!!” and C Thomas Howell to pop up

funniest. movie. evah.

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This garbage comes as no surprise.

Why must you hate and be one of the hatey haterz?

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Looks like the skinhead faction has been alerted.

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USinUK, what was creative about the crowd that seemed to enjoy what they heard prior to this woman saying she and the farmer became BFFs ? On the tape you could hear a few in agreement with what she said about her not helping whitey. What attitude did this lady carry around that made her think the farmer thought he was superior to her.

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“Don’t worry, we’re keeping lists for when the race war starts Jay. What are you going to do when you realize you don’t have a side anymore?”

holy crap. most folks at least try to throw a little makeup on their wankery … there he is with everything on show …

me, I’m on whatever side that piece of crap is NOT

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Normal, math geek humor before I have even finished my morning coffee? That was a groaner.

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Congrats Mr,. Bookman! And right wing conservatives.

The sheer intellectual brilliance and deep Christian morality is really on display this morning. 8:07 and that first 7:54 really stand out as representative of this despicable mentality that still thrives in the southern white male.

If the NAACP is as racially intolerant as these poor put-upon misunderstood conservatives claim, there is at least some historical understanding of the 400 year history that would have created it. Not justification, mind you mental lightweights.

What pray tell, is the paltry excuse for the white, racist, hate-mongers that still exist in this country? Many of whom fit in VERY nicely in the Tea Party’s bowel movement? And please do not further embarrass yourselves by claiming there are none…

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“If the NAACP is as racially intolerant”

I’m still trying to figure out where all the white members of the NAACP fit into the “racist” charge. Anyone got a clue?

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Let’s see. Ms. Tucker defends the New Black Panther party because what they did was okay because it was in a “HEAVILY DEMOCRATIC” district.

Bookman rants about the Tea Party because of racism & then turns around & defends this piece of garbage??? She said that she did not help him as much as she should have because he was white. What else do you need???

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“What else do you need???”

More people who want ALL the facts, and who know that reliance on “gotcha” reporting is pure laziness.

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electrician … ah, yes … duck and cover … I remember that well!! (because a school desk is going to keep you safe when the Russkies try to obliterate Dobbins AFB and Lockheed!)

“if there are so many commies in america the why is the circulation for the AJC dropping”

cuz we’re all buying Mother Jones …

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“Dog & US, you could say the same thing about blacks in the Tea Party but your loyality to the DemoRats have you blinded”

But we don’t have to, because we’ve known all along that the Tea Party is not a racist organization. It’s just a group of people who happen to have racists among them. What group doesn’t?

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AmVet@8:13 the tea party cant bring itself to call out the racist in thier ranks anymore than they can get rid of the hijacking republicans that have clained it as thier own.

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With one exception, it’s not what she said but how she said it. Saying something to someone like your bragging leaves little room when your trying to be contrite. What concerns me most is the “because I took him to one of his own” shows that she still sees race instead of just a person in need.

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Since the Tea Party has been brought up:

“Tea Party infighting heats up”

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/07/19/tea.party.imbroglio/index.html?hpt=Sbin

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Dear AmVet:
Deep Christian morality? southern white male? Tea Party movement? Nobody here said they were Christian of which I am aware, and there are southern white males on both sides of this issue. Also, I just read alot of nastiness from both sides, so I wouldn’t just talk about the tea party. Once again, the left stereotypes and name-calls in an effort to invalidate whole groups of people.

You sling mud at any convenient target hoping that some sticks…truth be darned!

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CNN is running her explanation:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/07/19/agriculture.employee.naacp/index.html

Meanwhile, the story has dropped of the Fox News front page. Typical. Tell half of a story, then set back and let the wing nuts run with it.

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“Tolerance has to work both ways.”

And you appear to be intolerant of her assertions that she not only worked with that farmer for 2 years, but also became friends with him and his family.

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What OUGHT to concern you most is that you are judging her from an edited clip, and judging her without hearing the ENTIRE speech she gave.

why that’s crazy talk. Next thing you’re going to be telling me we shouldn’t judge Barack Obama’s membership in Trinity United Church of Christ based on a 15-second sermon clip!

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You’re right, Jay. We need proof.

Just like we need proof that the N-word was used at black legislators during the healthcare vote.

What’s that you say? That’s different? There’s a different burden of proof? Oh, ok. That makes sense.

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Yikes,”crows”, really? Nice to know you get your racial stereotypes from Disney movies. I’ve never seen an elephant fly either, but I’ve seen a few aryan elephants in the comments.

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“Then it MUST be investigated.”

By the NAACP perhaps?

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Scott – “Tell half of a story, then set back and let the wing nuts run with it.”

I posted this the other day, but I think you’ll appreciate it:

First, a quick review of the process by which manufactured right-wing outrage becomes headline news:

1. Right-wing bloggers, talk radio hosts, and other conservative media outlets start promoting and distorting the story.

2. Fox News picks up the story and gives it heavy, one-sided coverage.

3. Fox News and conservative media attack the “liberal media” for ignoring the distorted story.

4. Mainstream media outlets eventually cover the story, echoing the right-wing distortions.

5. Fox News receives credit for promoting the story.

6. The story is later proven to be false or wildly misleading, long after damage is done.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201007190031

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AmVet – preaching that I basically need comprehension skills when the clown cannot even understand the obvious. I would guess that your middle name is dufus & not Einstein.

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“And you appear to be intolerant of her assertions that she not only worked with that farmer for 2 years, but also became friends with him and his family.”

While I won’t deny want she did was noble in trying to help, how she said it leaves a lot to be desired. Recently Mel Gibson was very contrite about his comments concerning Jews, said a lot of things people wanted to hear. But he later showed what he is all about.

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“While I won’t deny want she did was noble in trying to help, how she said it leaves a lot to be desired”

so you think “gotcha” reporting is OK then, I take it?

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Bottom line: She resigned. AmVet, Dog, US since you three defend her so much please do enlighten us with the reason why?

AmVet, since your warped belief structure convinces you that you are vastly superior to us in the cranium, maybe you could draw the rest of us a nice little picture.

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“Uh oh, now it’s fox news. It’s getting deep in here. ”

that comment would probably carry a lot more weight if we didn’t hear “emmessemm” “liberal media” and “commie rag” in here on a daily basis …

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Oh good, it’s rerun day. As I said yesterday when Jay B first ran his smokescreen about wanting to see the whole tape, this isn’t about the Sherrod story it’s about the reaction of the audience. Maybe that’s why he doesn’t add a link to the story

Sherrod’s racist tale is received by the NAACP audience with nodding approval and murmurs of recognition and agreement. Hardly the behavior of the group now holding itself up as the supreme judge of another groups’ racial tolerance.

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So someone is being held accountable for comments made in 1986??

And these are the same people who made up the so-called pimp ACORN tape.

I would not have resigned , i would have been fired and called these people out.

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LOL…”We’ve got to get beyond race and work together”…LOL.

Blah blah blah…mmm hmmm.

As Mr T would say “Enough with the jibba-jabba”

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USinUK,

I’m sure the audience was actually listening to a Nelson Mandela speech and this lady’s voice was just dubbed over.

/moonbat off

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RW – if it wasn’t for taking people’s comments out of context and/or selectively editing them to say the exact opposite of what they actually ARE saying, what WOULD your side do for fun???

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What I have noticed more and more on these blogs is the fanaticism by both side of the isle. I don’t think we debate issues anymore; we just hurl stones back and forth and insult each other. Too bad!!!
It really does not mean that much, but it is entertainment.
And the media, if you are right wing nut, you believe everything post on Fox. If you are a left wing nut, you believe everything post on MSNB. Guess what people…. This is entertainment and opinions?

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USinUK:

“RW and Bob – unless we know the context of what she was saying, you don’t know what the crowd is reacting to. which is why we should see the comments in their entirety.”

Wow. Yes the crowd was not all reacting to what you said. They were reacting to a “side meeting” that was taking place right outside the viewing area of the video.

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The head of the USDA ?

Wow. Those Big Government guys got her AND ACORN. They sure are sticking it to DC power brokers!

Now who is going to grade my beef?

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“If she was not a political appointee, but a member of the civil service, she would weather the controversy and continue on in her position”

and she’s 62 years old. Maybe she just decided it wasn’t worth fighting for, if they weren’t going to support her anyway. Just guessing, but I’m close to that age myself and I could understand it if that’s what she thought.

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“Her actions were shameful. While she went on to explain in the story that she ultimately realized her mistake, as well as the common predicament of working people of all races, she gave no indication she had attempted to right the wrong she had done to this man.””

Hmmm……..Did Mr Jealous not get to see the whole video?? Or did he act without the full story??

“Went on to explain………she gave no indication…”

I’m guessing he answered your question Jay.

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Wow! Jay’s commentary seems to have brought out quite a few non-racists this fine morning. I personally don’t see the concern over racism though. Most of these folks on here appear to be mixed-breed — white skin/black heart.

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USinUK,

I don’t have a side anymore. As of last night I’ve taken on the impartial position of being the one who decides what the best ideas from both sides are and developing the platform for the Fench Straddler Party.

/s

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And the media, if you are right wing nut, you believe everything post on Fox. If you are a left wing nut, you believe everything post on MSNB[C].

Perhaps, but I will point out (once again) that Fox News claims to be “fair and balanced.” MSNBC merely claims to be “the place for politics.”

Pretty huge difference in mission statements if you ax me.

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“Pretty huge difference in mission statements if you ax me.”

Not to sane people. It is a pretty huge rationalization for a double standard..

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RW – is that French Straddler or Fence Straddler?

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“but I’ve had enough and I’ve made the decision to go.””

Why is this any different from what I said? Maybe she just decided it wasn’t worth fighting for.

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“Not to sane people.”

not that mike would have any firsthand knowledge …

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“If they’re really junior they’ll be fired in the usually thought-of sense, completely terminated with no benefits.”

If true, a good indication of what is wrong in gov’t. Do we actually recycle the elitist deadwood??

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I see the spelling NAZI’s have arrived but that USinUK line at 9:06 was funny, I don’t care who you are.

Guess I’ll go with French

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not that mike would have any firsthand knowledge …

I almost owed you yet another Coke.

BTW, I doubt anyone posting here has managed to log as many hours viewing both FNC and MSNBC as I have in the past (oh, say) five years.

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Guess I’ll go with French

Freedom Straddlers!

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“Anything to get back the white man”

And I take it that includes their white members? come on, you can do it…bring out the “white guilt” argument before someone else does.

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Some years ago, myself and some buddies were lucky enough to moon John Lewis.

We were crusing up I-20 toward Panola or some exit and this big ole caddy came flying by changing lanes and bascially driving like a maniac.

We gave pursuit.

Upon catching up to this crazy caddy we began taunting the occupant and much hilarity ensued. The caddy then exited from the interstate as did we. Upon catching the light this black fellow stepped from his vehicle and began cursing incoherently and then screamed at us…”SHOW ME SOME RESPECT” to which showed him our behinds and much more hilarity ensued.

I could swear I detected an ever so slight grin come across Mr Lewis face as he shook his head reentered his caddy and drove away.

When us white dudes got back into our car I told my friends…”Hey, that was that House member from GA…that John Lewis fellow”.

What a fun day!

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RW – actually no. that example, if they are, indeed, NOT members of the Orange Pekoe Brigade (remember, RW, “Pajamas Media Sed” doesn’t make it so) is an example of people pretending to belong to a movement they do not.

I’m talking about editing someone’s words to say something it does not … like the Ginsberg “populations we don’t want any more of” smear

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/16/AR2009071603485.html

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“Black people in the south are by and large, racists, period”

and yet another person who doesn’t know the difference between “racist” and “bigot” – AND who has no problems painting ALL blacks in the South with the same broad brush.

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sfd

“I doubt anyone posting here has managed to log as many hours viewing both FNC and MSNBC as I have in the past (oh, say) five years.”

So… what’re you doing for it now? Self help? Therapy? 12-step?

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“And absence of proof is not proof of absence. No videos only means no one was taping that incident at that time. There ARE eye-witnesses who backed up the claim.”

I have been at incidents where there were 50 people of all walks of life and would get 50 different versions of what happened, including what colors of clothes were worn. Eye witnesses don’t always see the same thing until they get together and discuss what they saw. The right claims there were just as many witnesses that didn’t hear any words like that being said. Just like at any accident scene where witnesses give conflicting statements, who you believe is dependent on your perception by who the statement is being made by.

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The moral outrage on both sides of the NAACP/Tea Party debate is pretty laughable. Mark Williams claims that the Tea Party has no racists? Come on. Get 20 people together at a neighborhood block party and you will have a racist in your presence. And the NAACP, while they have accomplished many good things for African Americans, they are hardly the last bastion of unadulterated racial tolerance.

Read this article: Token White Member of NAACP Calls Tea Party “Racist”; Lone Black Tea Partier “Outraged”.

Very FUNNY!

http://www.dailygoat.com/?p=1798

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If anyone cares, I think the White House should’ve stuck by Van Jones. And I think Barack Obama should’ve maintained his membership at TUCC even after he’d moved to the White House, if only to tell a lot of richly deserving people they could collectively kiss his n—–r ass if they didn’t like how he worshiped.

But I don’t have hundreds of millions of people whose livelihoods are influenced by my flights of fancy and pride; I don’t have to worry quite so much about when to cut my losses; the Administration does.

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RW-(the original) 9:17

If a refuting link is posted and nobody refutes, does that mean the information in the link is true?

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AmVet? 400 years of understanding why the NAACP is racist? Are you kidding me? Let me refresh your memory on slavery, or the fact that tens-of-thousands of blacks participated in the murdering and enslaving of Native American Indians…..i would really hate for you to actually research history. The kicker to all of this hypocrisy is that of the real black Africans STILL TO THIS DAY enslaving their own people…..

Thomas Sowell: The history of slavery across the centuries and in many countries around the world is a painful history to read — not only in terms of how slaves have been treated, but because of what that says about the whole human species — because slaves and enslavers alike have been of every race, religion, and nationality.

If the history of slavery ought to teach us anything, it is that human beings cannot be trusted with unbridled power over other human beings — no matter what color or creed any of them are. The history of ancient despotism and modern totalitarianism practically shouts that same message from the blood-stained pages of history.

But that is not the message that is being taught in our schools and colleges, or dramatized on television and in the movies. The message that is pounded home again and again is that white people enslaved black people.

Just as Europeans enslaved Africans, North Africans enslaved Europeans — more Europeans than there were Africans enslaved in the United States or in the 13 colonies from which the nation was formed.

The treatment of white galley slaves was even worse than the treatment of black slaves who picked cotton. But there are no movies or television dramas about it comparable to Roots, and our schools and colleges don’t pound it into the heads of students.

The inhumanity of human beings toward other human beings is not a new story, much less a local story. There is no need to hide it, because there are lessons we can learn from it. But there is also no need to distort it, so that sins of the whole human species around the world are presented as special defects of “our society” or the sins of a particular race.

If American society and Western civilization are different from other societies and civilizations, it is in that they eventually turned against slavery, and stamped it out, at a time when non-Western societies around the world were still maintaining slavery and resisting Western pressures to end slavery — including, in some cases, by armed resistance.

Only the fact that the West had more firepower put an end to slavery in many non-Western societies during the age of Western imperialism. Yet today there are Americans who have gone to Africa to apologize for slavery — on a continent where slavery has still not been completely ended, to this very moment.

It is not just the history of slavery that gets distorted beyond recognition by the selective filtering of facts. Those who mine history in order to find everything they can to undermine American society or Western civilization have very little interest in the Bataan death march, the atrocities of the Ottoman Empire, or similar atrocities in other times and places.

Those who mine history for sins are not searching for truth but for opportunities to denigrate their own society, or for grievances that can be cashed in today at the expense of people who were not even born when the sins of the past were committed.

An ancient adage says: “Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof.” But apparently it is not sufficient for many among our educators, the intelligentsia, or the media. They are busy poisoning the present by the way they present the past.

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If a refuting link is posted and nobody refutes, does that mean the information in the link is true?

Now my head hurts. Thanks, Paul.

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RW – firewall no likeee videos … can only go by the text description on the page

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Well, I watched the clip more than once. The first time through was with my jaw on my chest, stunned at such a brazen statement of racist policies by a government official. But then I listened more critically, and began to suspect that the excerpt made available was just the prelude to a much more noble point–just as you suggest here. That fits both her tone in the talk itself and her later explanation. (But, as someone here notes, the audience–NAACP members–seems a little too enthusiastic over the story she relates.) Her resignation may seem odd on this interpretation, but not if her department has decided that, whether innocent or guilty, too much damage has been done.

If this is right, then it is like excerpting only the juicy parts from a new convert’s public testimony of his past, sinful life. “He’s into all sorts of debauchery! Tar and feather him!”

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This video is a good learning lesson for those not “in the know”.

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Thats awesome, OGK..mooning John Lewis

@paul, yes I am saying the vast majority of “public servants” are scumbags,,a few firemen and cops and the military excluded.

Its the same mentallity some of my family used to have about the phone company and the railroad , from the way they talk(all my great uncles worked for southern bell or southern railway) ..lifetime job, dont work too hard, never get fired or layed off.

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Doggone,

not to single you out…. but…

I see you have issues with gotcha reporting.

However I frequently read this blog and cannot for the life of me remembering any timein which you complained of gotcha reporting or calling to see the whole tape in regards to the many stories and opinion pieces on this very blog. Even when an offer of i think 100k was offered to anyone with proof of the things accused of the tea party during the HC debate.

Why do you only seem to care about “gotcha” reporting or needing to see evidence of the video for people or groups on the so-called left?

Do you have any factual evidence to support your appeared bias or is it a matter as simple as your personal choice?

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Just how do you folks expect me to get out of here if you keep asking questions?

md,

I should probably give you a better answer and perhaps I’ll try if we cross paths later, but I’m mostly just having some fun with the whole centrist thing because it’s got such an amorphous definition. We all have vastly different ideas of the center and even within ourselves vastly different ideas of where the center might be from issue to issue. We also all straddle a fence or two depending on the issue. I’m also not of the opinion that every issue has a neat little compromise answer. Sometimes right is right and wrong is wrong. No sense getting in between in those cases.

Later!

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[...] shirley sherrod – Google News [...]

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A mind-boggling double standard.

Shameful…

Utterly amazing…

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Thats why there are no good retail options in the ghetto…shoplifting , looting, shrinkage…it’s not worth the effort.

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getalife

July 20th, 2010
9:42 am

easy with the language so early in the morning…. half the people on here are distracted now looking around their offices..

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OGK – are you in this group?

http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/834791-california-train-mooning-event-is-great-crack-for-participants

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“His own kind? That alone should get her fired.”

So, she should be fired NOW for something she did 24 years ago, while working for an entirely different organization?

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Don’t care when / where it was. She was apparently open to the abuse of authority based on race earlier in life. That’s a disgusting practice no matter when it was. Someone with this set of beliefs shouldn’t be running anything.

I’m glad she’s reformed apparently. But I wouldn’t want a reformed former KKK member running part of the USDA either. Some things approach being unforgivable. This lady has no business being in government.

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Will do thomas.

“Earnings fell 83 percent in the second quarter, making it the worst quarter for Goldman Sachs since the depths of the financial crisis in late 2008″NY Times.

Uh, oh.

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Best quote o’ the day, and surprisingly, in cynthia Tuckers blog post

“I was a pastor on crack cocaine”

Explaining further would dilute the greatness of the quote.

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Unpolitically Correct

Sorry to hear that your child was hassled.

Did you report it to the authorities?

It’s a difficult process, I have had to defend my girls – I understand.

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Jay, do you think White people are stupid and can’t see the double standard? You want a color blind world free from racism then the Blacks have to do their part and stop being slaves on the Democratic Party Plantation and take care of themselves instead of being wards and property of the state. That is the truth, don’t like too bad cause nothing will change until the Blacks take care of themselves. We have done all we could since the 60s and they have blown it big time.

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getalife

July 20th, 2010
9:52 am

Thanks….. now I’m depressed, not shocked but depressed. i would rather still be looking for a tat to give.

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Doggone/GA

July 20th, 2010
10:00 am

So you only have a problem with gotcha reporting when it is against a group, organization or a person you like or agree with?

How very honorable of you!

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Normal – thought you’d get a kick out of this:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/gallery/2010/jul/18/chap-olympiad-fashion-london#/?picture=364980311&index=0

(by the by … anyone seen Bosch?)

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So, with some of these comments, like those from AmVet-I suppose my son should just sit back and take the racism because somehow he must pay for the past indescretions of others?

No, but what you can do is teach your boys to be color blind. Tell them that while they can’t control how others think, feel, or say, they can be the ones to let it stop there. Tell them that in The Creators eyes people are people and all should be treated with respect.
Teach them to look beyond a persons looks. Teach them tolerance and they will teach their kids the same and eventually there will be no more racism. But never, never, under any circumstances teach them to hate. There has to be a special place in Hades for parents that teach innocent children how to hate.

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Normal

“Tell them that in The Creators eyes people are people and all should be treated with respect.”

Once heard a minister say “the lesson of the story of Adam is this: no one can say to another “I am better than you because of who my ancestors were, because we all come from the same source.”

I like that.

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Doggone/GA

July 20th, 2010
10:03 am

You didn’t have to.

You have used as verification for your disagreement with people condemning her qand her words because …… you have not seen the whole video and you hate gotcha reporting.

That is fine!

But then you fall silent on the same types of gotcha reporting used to describe the tea party members as racist and bigots.

Your excuse was you didn’t have any interest in that issue.

Again, Thats fine!

But you were engaged in dialog the days the tea party has came up and did not defend the tea party or give them the excuse of you need to see the whole tape or see ANY tape. Yet also never claimed they were the victims of gotcha reporting.

I never put any words into your mouth there was a question mark at the end of the statement therefor making it a shorthand question, which you dodged.

I was simply trying to gain insight into your mind and opinion of when is it ok for gotcha reporting and when is it not?

There is no need to place words in your mouth the contradiction of your own words speaks volumes.

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“I was simply trying to gain insight into your mind and opinion of when is it ok for gotcha reporting and when is it not?”

Ok, to answer your question: gotcha reporting is never ok. I don’t always feel any need to comment one way or another. I only comment when I have something to say on the subject.

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Just back from the polls and headed to the forest but what incredibly fortuitous timing. You have got to click on that 10:09 trackback to this story. My guess is it was translated into some other language and back to English, but it’s hysterical.

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Doggone/GA

If a news organization had a report an official committed unsavory acts, yet the official’s organization stonewalled releasing information or refused to follow up, and the official refused to schedule a press conference or speak with the press, are you saying it’s not okay for the news organization to approach the person in a public place and at least get them on the record refusing to address the allegations?

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Jay and members of the main stream media accepted the accounts of Barney Frank, John Lewis and other members of the Congressional Black Caucas they they were verbally assaulted with offensive racial or sexual language and even spat upon without ANY shred of evidence to support their claims against Tea Party protestors. It is reported that members of the CBC either had video cameras themselves or some of their staffers did. The same Breitbart that Jay wants to now demand release the entire video of Sherrod has also requested that John Lewis, Barney Frank, and other black Congressmen please RELEASE ANY AND ALL evidence of racism they encountered on that fatal weekend when ObamaCare was passed.

They have not and members of the media have never pressed them. But now Jay wants a full release of a tape in which regardless of what this woman says today clearly indicates her intolerant views. Congratulations to Ms. Sherrod if she now feels differently about white Americans and has learned not to judge a person’s attitude based on her own insecurities. However, people like her and Jay DO NOT want to give individuals of a different political persuasion the same benefit of the doubt and will forever accuse Republicans without any evidence of being racists.

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RW-(the original)

Sounds like some owners manuals I have -

Doggone/GA

That’s gotta be it.

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Doggone/GA

Not sure this qualifies as ‘gotcha’ journalism but it’s ‘gotcha’ nonetheless.

And police and prosecutors want to send people to prison for it.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/TheLaw/videotaping-cops-arrest/story?id=11179076

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Uhhhh…McCain votes against observing a holiday honoring a huge leader in the Civil Rights movement (for what reason, I can’t quite understand), apologizes and continues his run for president and maintains his seat in the Senate, whereas Sherrod makes a comment about a past decision and explains how it was racist and she learned from it, but is expected to resign immediately.

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I haven’t been this upset since Dr. Joycelyn Elders was forced to resign her position as Surgeon General of the Entire United States because she advocated public schools teaching the joys of pleasuring oneself. I was looking forward to the hands on training video featuring that sex crazed sex poodle The Gorbot illustrating the only safe way to have sex. What was Jay Bookman’s position on self gratification? Did this woman refuse to help this farmer because of his race or his politics? Either way he got a Joycelyn Elders.

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If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it’s probably a duck. No amount of fear, uncertainty and doubt (the FUD factor) planting can change it. Jay, nice try on the spin though.

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“And police and prosecutors want to send people to prison for it.”

I would expect that, in the end, they’ll lose that fight. What it comes down to is that there is no “expectation of privacy” in the interrogation of someone on a public street or place.

But they’re bound to try, organizations in power will ALWAYS fight to “protect” that power.

Heck, I’ve thought about putting a dash camera in MY car just to get videos of cops breaking laws in front of me…like the one just the other day who was NOT in “lights and sirens” mode, but who changed lanes and made a turn right in front of me with no turn signal.

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Oh bother! Bookman has thrown the burning bush into the can of gasoline for a little pop this morning. All the libs are running crazy like racism and bigotry was just invented by Republicans when it is a loose lipped lib doing it!!!. HI, Mz. Sherrod. Oh well, I AM GOING TO VOTE.

If any Black Panthers or White Polar Bears are standing at the door, I will hit them with my pocketbooik. So there.

If asked for ID, I will show them my driver’s license and my voter ID card and my birth mark if they so desire. (Well, maybe not my birth mark.)

If someone asks if I want to vote for a Democrat, I will also HIT them with my pocketbook. I have my standards, you know. Or maybe it’s French, huh RW???

So keep running around, libs, hollering BUT BUT BUT and maybe someone will kick one. Or maybe RedNeck will come and pass out some PBR or whatever. He’s full of it! Just like the rest of you ladies and gentlemen (Ha!)…Now be good citizens and go to work. You might enjoy it for a change.

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The Right is melt-down. Ms. Sherrod is the unfortunate victim of their own division:

“The conservative media outlets tied the video to the NAACP’s recent resolution calling on the Tea Party movement to repudiate racist elements within it that have displayed such items as images of President Barack Obama with a bone through his nose and the White House with a lawn full of watermelons. The controversy has led one Tea Party group to oust another because of a blog posting by the second group’s leader.”

Source: http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/07/20/agriculture.employee.naacp/index.html?video=true&hpt=T2

Too bad we on the Left can’t or won’t learn how to fight back.

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I would like to see the whole video of a lot of things, the whole video of the tea party where a Black claims that he was called the N. word and many others where the lame stream media, Jay & Tucker included jumped all over the right withoue seeing it all.

They have a tendency to condem what they want and to ignore the rest. It would be refreshing just for once to see some objective reporting from anyone.

Jay you are a fake as is Ms Tucker, and a poor one at that.

Big Ike, what color of people does the NAACP help?

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RW, I’ve deleted that trackback.

It was an especially nice touch that it even mangled the language in the quoted sections.

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Paul – “Fair question for a candidate. “What do you rely on for sources of news and how does it affect your outlook?””

I totally agree …

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Definitely a gotcha question – representing a “side”, it is highly likely she would read publications enforcing that side – and Curic knew that.

There’s no way in hell Couric had any idea a softball question like “which papers do you read” would make Sarah all brain-hurtie.

Jeez, you name your city’s daily (if only out of loyalty to a local employer) and leave it at that.

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Why would you come to an OPINION page for REPORTING? If you want reporting, go to the news pages.

DoggoneGA,

Shouldn’t you leave it up to Jay B whether he wants to chase off readers?

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On Sherrod:

“Sherrod said the short video clip excluded the breadth of the story about how she eventually worked with the man over a two-year period to help ward off foreclosure of his farm, and how she eventually became friends with the farmer and his wife.
“‘And I went on to work with many more white farmers,’ she said. ‘The story helped me realize that race is not the issue, it’s about the people who have and the people who don’t. When I speak to groups, I try to speak about getting beyond the issue of race.’”

On McCain
“In December 1999 McCain told NBC’s Tim Russert, ‘on the Martin Luther King issue, we all learn, OK? We all learn. I will admit to learning, and I hope that the people that I represent appreciate that, too. I voted in 1983 against the recognition of Martin Luther King….I regret that vote.’

“In Arizona, a bill to recognize a holiday honoring MLK failed in the legislature, so then-Gov. Bruce Babbitt, a Democrat, declared one through executive order.

“In January 1987, the first act of Arizona’s new governor, Republican Evan Mecham, was to rescind the executive order by his predecessor to create an MLK holiday. Arizona’s stance became a national controversy.
“Mecham, for his part, opposed the holiday, saying, ‘I guess King did a lot for the colored people, but I don’t think he deserves a national holiday.’”

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/04/the-complicated.html

Given Mecham’s explanation for his position, why else would McCain oppose the holiday?

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“Shouldn’t you leave it up to Jay B whether he wants to chase off readers?”

I haven’t tried to chase off readers, just educate them on where to go for the information they say they want. Want opinion? You come to the opinion page. Want reporting? You go to the news pages.

We just occasionally get some ill-informed readers who need to be educated on those facts…and I don’t mind doing it.

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Mornin’ Cousin Scooter!

I guess I better get moving. See y’all this evening.

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As if Media Matter and others haven’t used “creative editing” and out of context quotes from people like Rush Limbaugh and Hannity to portray them as racist, etc.

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DoggoneGA,

I’m sure Jay B isn’t offended in the least that you think nothing he writes constitutes factual reporting.

/s

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“As if Media Matter and others haven’t used “creative editing” and out of context quotes from people like Rush Limbaugh and Hannity to portray them as racist, etc”

I don’t know about “others” but Media Matters doesn’t. They always provide full context quotes, and links to the entire speech, statement, paper, whatever. I don’t always agree with their conclusions…but they DO provide the full information they used to draw that conclusion.

Despite the assertions of their “victims”

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sfd

“Jeez, you name your city’s daily (if only out of loyalty to a local employer) and leave it at that.”

Especially, when it comes to national issues, most newspapers (as I understand it) pull from wire services for their material. So lots of local papers have the same AP or Reuters stories as the majors.

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Paul and SFD – criminey, I’m sure Guns and Ammo would have appreciated the shout-out …

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Jay

Do you even know if Breitbart has a full tape of Ms. Sherrod’s speech? It is doubtful they were there and it is most likely that a member of the audience sent them the tape. Have you called their office to find out before making YOUR DEMANDS and trying to insinuate they have some sinister motives? Would it not have been responsible for you to gather all the facts and know how this tape ended up in their possession and if what was released was indeed all they received? Instead you decide to yank chains by smearing a group of conservative journalists that you apparently do not like.

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getalife

July 20th, 2010
10:45 am

now, now…

we would need the entire speech and the context it was given.

He may have been saying this is how he felt at one time but now has changed and wants everyone else to change too!

Or as I have long said it is not white people in the south one should look for when looking for racist whites… go to the Northeast! Go to a small town in the northeast, then go to a small town in the southeast.

What one will find is for southern people to be so racist we seem to live near a fair amount of different races…. while those in the northeast…. seems a lil lacking for color.

But to your point the guy is obviously a joke!

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Geeezzeeee……

Is a liberal EVER responsible for their actions? You people defending her is really pathetic. Perhaps that’s because you’re just like her?????

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“trying to insinuate they have some sinister motives?”

Breitbart??? THE HELL YOU SAY!!!

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Dave – 10:50 – the latest … what, exactly?

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Dave – 11:01 – yeah. cuz Brent Bozell is sooooooo “balanced”

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Jay,
Why don’t you try something I call research and call the NAACP to see if they have that copy of the tape you seek? You could get it from the source, then you can publish it on your opinion site and make Breitbart look bad.
I always find it funny when people talk about sticking it to Whitey, too.
Ooooh – I have an idea. The NAACP could post the full tape on their website and exonerate her altogether!
I just wish you applied this same level of skepticism towards Obama and his administration, but wishes don’t always come true, do they?

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And Media Matter is soooooo balanced

“Media Matters for America is a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive (read: Liberal)research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media.

Launched in May 2004, Media Matters for America put in place, for the first time, the means to systematically monitor a cross section of print, broadcast, cable, radio, and Internet media outlets for conservative misinformation — news or commentary that is not accurate, reliable, or credible and that forwards the conservative agenda — every day, in real time.”

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……………. and the gap between Americans continues to grow !!

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Diane Rehm Show, NPR, interviewing Smokey Robinson this hour.

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Doggone/Ga

If the President gives his oppinion on something do you consider it news? it seems that you are saying that Jay’s opinions don’t mean squat. He is a newspaper man and he quotes other people in the news all the time, that my friend is called news, no matter where it is written.

Please get a life!

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“Do you honestly think a full transcript would begin with “so How do we get to this point”?”

How about providing a link?

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“it seems that you are saying that Jay’s opinions don’t mean squat”

That’s a leap that’s beyond me. How you get from “for news go to the reporting pages, for opinion go to the opinion page” to THAT conclusion only leaves me shaking my head in wonder.

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Doggone/GA

July 20th, 2010
11:11 am

i posted this in the last post as well….

there are more… go google and type in Media Matters caught in lie.

http://homepage.mac.com/mkoldys/iblog/C1049953760/E20070926121225/index.html

again do you stand by your original statement that Media Matters Always provides a full transcript?

When can we expect your defense of Bill O’Reilly?

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The leftists in these comments at the same the same time defending her and attacking conservatives are evil and mentally ill. It is your fault that civil war is coming to this country again. Good, decent people can no longer tolerate your garbage.

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RightWingExtremist

July 20th, 2010
11:15 am

OH MY EFFIN” GAWD!!

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sfd

I hadn’t thought about the implications you laid out at the end of your post. Lots to chew on, there.

josef nix

I kinda wondered how some would take that comment. I guess I was expecting more of a Business Week shot – guy standing there, looking all cool and powerful and above it all. Then again, the article said the guy works at home and wears shorts so that wouldn’t work.

Then again, maybe this was his subliminal way of trying to appeal to a wider audience?

Which wine for a bubble bath? Something like a Viognier to cut the soapy taste?

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Jay …………. talking about race, etc. would you PLEASE check into this for me:

Headline: “MUSLIM FAMILY DAY ON SEPTEMBER 12th AT SIX FLAGS CHICAGO”

“We’re learning theorganization that is funding the Muslim Family Day at Six Flags, the Islamic Circle of North America, has some rather interesting items on it’s website. Something about all Muslims and Pakistanis “uniting against America.”

In the meantime .. just a few weeks ago Porky Pig was attacked at this same Six Flags. Two employees were charged in the attack. The employees were named Sikalchuk and Petrychenko. Sounds somewhat Russian to me. Chechnyan perhaps? Muslims?”

Jay – if that’s true ……… that is , that is, that is, that is , that’s the last, the last, the last, last straw for, for, for, me !

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since John Edwards had made a similar reference during an earlier debate that was so innocuous at the time, that Dick Cheney actually thanked John for his kind words.

Talk about something you need the video tape for. That’s the most craptastic explanation for that exchange I’ve ever seen

I don’t know about any other bloggers at the AJC, but Jay always provides a link.

He didn’t provide a link to Breitbart on this very post.

josef,

Do I have to get screened by some panel or do I get to be an EOI just by virtue of the nomination?

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Someone needs to introduce RightWingExtremist to Ron … (or maybe they HAVE met, but don’t recognize each other without the hoods …)

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I’m sure if she were white and the situation were reversed all the comments from blacks here would be supporting the white person. Yeah, sure they would. Blacks are the most racist segment of our society and the evidence is presented daily. Obama has repeatedly proven to be the most incompetent President in this nations history. He has been responsible for errors in judgment on a scale never seen previously. The handling of the oil spill is the latest example of his ineptitude. The deficit he is piling on tax payers will cost generations of people their dreams. Of course, to say anything against him is seen as racism by blacks who blindly support him regardless of his numerous colossal failures. This can only be due to three reasons: they are either too stupid to understand the ramifications of his actions, don’t care how his actions impact the country, or support him purely because he is black, the epitome of racism..

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Dave – you might want to review the Rush / Michael J Fox event … it had nothing to do with a video of Rush

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/24/AR2006102400691.html

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Elephant Whip

July 20th, 2010
11:19 am

Because Sherrod openly admits she gave less services based upon the fact that the farmer was white. therefor denying the farmer rights a man of a different race would have recieved.

McCain and Mecham were disrespectful but they did not take away any services provided or determine teh amount of services to any citizen based on race alone.

Ms. Sherrod did! And admitted to it!

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Let’s make a deal. I’ll keep an open mind on what might be on the rest of the tape, Jay. IN RETURN—you produce any tape that can prove the allegations made by the NAACP and certain Congressmen that they were actually called racist name and spat upon (as there’s a $100,000 bounty if you can, you’ll make a nice little bundle) which is the foundation of their bigotry claim against the Tea Party. Like a good jackboot liberal, you are very selective about who you give the benefit of doubt, and who you defaultly condemn without evidence.

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PAUL
I’ll remember that the next time I take a bubble bath!

RW
We’ll have to see what Chairman Paul and Vice Chairman SoCo have to say…

Scout
When is J-E-W family day? And you mean they haven’t changed it to Five Flags yet? Certain bashers ain’t doin’ their job here!

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Well, well, well, once again we wander into a area of expertise where Ol’ Wyld Byll has a distinctive competency.

You see, my family and I have enjoyed close relations with the coloureds since well before the War of Northern Agression. I along with all my brothers, sisters, and children have suckled coloured nannies. We have considered those people to be like family and they consider us the same way. When I stop at the little coloured store near our country place, the coloured who have descended from those who worked fo my family are always very excited and happy to see me, some even cry to see Ol’ Cap’n Bill and most feel close enough to “axes”, as they say, for money. Now granted, over the past five years we have replaced the coloured with the Salvadorans as workers at the couintry place,. because the Salvadorans work hard, don’t have near the alcohol and drug problems of the coloured, and never try to borrow money. Since Ali and Malcom X came on the seen we have seen a decline in our coloured that has only accelerated as the younger generations have become entwined in the hip hop lifestyle. Used to be our coloured where hard working, church going people, now they are aimless, unemployed grifters – it isn’t at all uncommon to she 20 year old girls with two or three suckers under their arms buying cigarettes and scratch off lotto tickets. It has been said to watch the decline of our coloureds.

Now that said, when you listen to the women on the tape, it is easy to see that see does not have the same love for the white man that I have for the coloured. Clearly, used did not treat these people fairly and she should be fired and her pernsion stripped. Just imagine how up in arms everyone would be if ol’ Wyld Byll were, in the least buit, insensitive to a coloured in trouble.

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Well, Ms Sherrod did say she was sorry and repented. Maybe she should run for a Senate seat from West Virgina?

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This very well may be about the left and right taking “pot shots” at each other, and in the process, it appears that sometimes the truth is the victim of collateral damage. However, this development may be an inside job. Secretary of Agriculture, Tom Vilsak appointed Sherrod as Georgia Director of Rural Development back in 2009. This appointment was probably part of the settlement terms resulting in a lawsuit that Sherrod and others brought against Vilsak and the USDA (Pigford vs Vilsak). There was also a 13 million dollar pay out to an organization known as New Communities…founded by none other than Sherrod and her husband. So, I would think there is no love lost between Vilsak and Sherrod and she probably had a target on her back from the get go. Of course, I do not condone how she initially handled the white farmer’s situation twenty-four years ago, and it may have been merely the backdrop to take her out. “Politics makes for strange bedfellows.”

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WyldByl

Took me a minute to see where you were going with that…makes you stop and think…not bad…

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I’m a service tech that works on the Atlanta Civic Center. You should hear what some of the members of the Atlanta City Council say when there aren’t aware that anyone is within earshot. Sad.

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Well this isn’t getting anywhere (as usual) except for “Liberal media good and pure and truthful” and “conservative media bad, racist, and liars”….

Maybe I’ll head over to Cynthia’s blog and talk about blunts…

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PAUL
@ 11:35
So many lines, so little time!

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I am a white man, and I am a racist. I have been told this repeatedly over the years by a number of different blacks, who told me repeatedly that all white people are racists. They also told me that no person of any race other than white can ever be racist.

Thus, this black woman is not racist becasue she is black, and I am racist because I am white. It is not racist to say that people of one color are racist, as long as they are white. It is not racist to say that anyone of a non-white race can never be racist, as long as you are not white.

However, because I am a white man, and because I am therefore a racist, I am not able to understand the logic of this. This shows that I am racist.

See?

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Wonder why many refuse to look at all the facts surrounding this situation and the representative time line?
How many are aware of the fact the Federal government still has not paid black farmers for the judgement against the USDA for its policies and practices of denying loans?
Wonder if the level of outrage exhibited by those supporting the firing of Mrs. Sherrod, without knowing the complete story, are equally outraged about the plight of the black farmers?

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This is for all of you set-belt-law government-food-pyrimid-R &D voting warmist muslim fearing pansies out there.

Posted by Lew Rockwell on July 20, 2010 08:45 AM

The state’s ambition is always and everywhere totalitarian. All that keeps any state, including the US’s, from becoming total is public opposition, since state power always depends on the consent of the victims. After 9/11/01, when public opposition to the state receded in fear, the failure of US intelligence, national security, and defense was used as an excuse to vastly expand them all, especially in the corporatist direction. In the realm of intelligence, the expansion has been colossal, even in DC terms.
The US state is by far the biggest, richest, most powerful in history. Therefore it is also the most bureaucratic, i.e. tied in knots, economic and otherwise, of its own making. Far from being a problem, this is our hope. The empire is coming down. And its metastasis since 9/11/01 is what will finally choke off the tyranny. Oh, that and the worldwide depression its central bank and banksters concocted after 9/11/01.

In closing, it is interesting to note the best-selling books and movies last week on Amazon. American still has hope over the jelly spined metro-sexuals.

Nullification: How To Resist Federal Tyranny in the 21st Century, by Tom Woods;
The Rise and Decline of the State, by Martin Van Creveld.

The best-selling movies last week were:

Mel Gibson’s The Passion of the Christ;
Mel Gibson’s The Patriot;
Mel Gibson’s Braveheart.

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USinUK

July 20th, 2010
11:41 am

Never know his lawyers say the tapes are doctored?

Why would you not pay attention to Mel after his anti-Semitic rant?

But are willing to overlook an admitted act of Racism by this woman?

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Doggone/GA

July 20th, 2010
11:41 am

The transcript begins with Bill o’reilly stating “So how do we get to this point”

What point are they speaking of? Must have been something before that established this point.

But you due to your inability to admit, even to yourself, that soemtimes you are wrong and have fault you don’t allow yourself to see this.

Truely fascinating.

Have you ever heard of a full transcript starting with a reference to another previous comment or speech without any reference to said prior speech?

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thomas – 11:44 – I try to avoid celeb “news” whenever possible … other than the “burn your house down” thing (which I only know because there’s a website that evidently compares movie quotes with the quotes from his messages) I am blissfully unaware of how many tapes are out there or what they say.

“But are willing to overlook an admitted act of Racism by this woman?”

overlook? I’ve overlooked it? really?? because I’d like to see the entirety of her comments? huh.

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That lady is not very attractive either. Face only a mother could love.

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Whatchall having for lunch?

Leftover, homemade, fried dumplings (mostly filled with turkey sausage, a coupla shrimp ones as well) from last night. Not the healthiest thing but mm-mm-good.

You?

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Countdown to “what do her looks have to do with it?” in 3-2-1

Personally, I hope no one is actualy dumb enough to even ask. You’ll only encourage him if you do.

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And show Van Jones tapes also !!!!!!!

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Turkey Sausage…BLEH!

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Shirley cannot be excused and the people she was talking to seemed to enjoy the screwing over of a white man. And unfortunately most whites are superior to black people. 835 of blacks in GA say BO is doing a good job. This is according to a poll done by your paper. I have to surmise this approval is based solely on the fact he is black and wants to redistribute wealth.

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…and Pamela Handerson.

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sfb,

What you missed was the visual of Cheney’s face that showed his disdain and contempt for both the question and the Edwards response which is also why he refused to entertain the question.

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Doggone/GA

July 20th, 2010
11:49 am

But you went much further than to stop at full-transcript and full text.

Read your original post of the thing Media Maatters Always does.

They did not do that in Mr. O’reilly’s case.

and more…..

look at these 2 seems they did it to Chris Matthews as well. i will let you inform Media Matters so they can change it. I would but they may misquote me!

http://mediamatters.blogsome.com/2006/07/13/media-matters-fabricates-transcript-to-falsely-claim-that-chris-matthews-praised-conservative-ad/

http://mediamatters.org/research/200607110004

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thomas…you got a problem with Media Matters? Fine, take it up with them. They don’t pay me to defend them, and they don’t need me to defend them.

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“You think someone in the administration made the decision without Obama’s approval?”

since it appears that she resigned, and was not “fired” then what decision needed to be made? Seems to me SHE made the decision.

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Stands for Decibels,

I’m calling the EMTs for you right now. FRIED DUMPLINS WITH TURKEY SAUSAGE??? Hurry…911.

I think I will go have some PeptoBismol just thinking ’bout it. But I bet it tastes good. Better than mine. No good leftovers. Ate out last night.. Down to lettuce, tomatoes, strawberries and blueberries and that does not make good soup. I think I’ll eat at your house. Have you got it warmed up yet?

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She needs to lose some weight and perhaps be happier. I bet her hubby looks at her and says OH MY GOD…what have I done? Then sits in the corner for hours just cryin.

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Question–is Ms. Sherrod a country mouse or a city mouse?

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She was told resign or be fired.

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USinUK
Point taken. TOO many things today are taken out of context to create the appearance of see I told you so. I think all media, instead of reporting the facts try to manipulate them for their agenda or an agenda they support. I try to get as much information as possible then make my own decision. Unfortunately what I am seeing in this country is not something to wave our flag about.

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Sherrod resigns and some folks say it’s just a resignation

McChrystal resigns and the same people that claim the above say he was fired.

Interesting

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**I have to surmise this approval is based solely on the fact he is black and wants to redistribute wealth.**

Evidence of the sheer ignorance some have accepted as fact…

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RW @ 11.57, I guess I could go back and watch the thing all over again, but I did see it live, and while one can be forgiven for reading what one likes into a response, I took Cheney’s statement at face value.

As for his facial expression of “disdain and contempt”, let’s be real—you can tell this from his normal scowl, how?

And I really don’t recall this being something he complained about after the debate. It wasn’t until the Kerry/Bush debate that mentioning an out-and-proud adult became, for some reason, off limits.

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USinUK

Shave the corn off the cob and add it to your mango salsa it adds another flavor and texture. I have done this and this is not taken out of context

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Jay there isn’t except it looks better on your resume.

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Jay- if you are fired you get ZERO of your benefits, however if you resign you keep 100% of your benefits along with the benefit of being able to claim you were not fired. Also, if she is NOT fired she cannot collect unemployment.

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Josef Nix: CNN had an interview with her.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/07/20/agriculture.employee.naacp/index.html?hpt=T1

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Jackie: Wonder if the level of outrage exhibited by those supporting the firing of Mrs. Sherrod, without knowing the complete story, are equally outraged about the plight of the black farmers?

Of course not.

Jay, I know it’s Georgia and I know that there are SOME georgians who still wished they lived in the pre-civil war era, however, could we go at least ONE WEEK without talking about, bringing up, or questioning racial related matters? Just saying…….

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alatsea – 12:14 … oh, YEAH! excellent idea

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heading home .. have a great evening!!

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@getalife..

It is easy to draw a graph showing the decline of the usa in direct corrallation with it’s increasing diversity..particulary the 24 million diverse illegal aliens who “enrich” our fair country.

WHile diversity is good in some areas..after all, I love a late night sushi dinner at ru san’s, it has brought definate drawbacks elsewhere.

For kicks I like to research historical atlanta …(btw the atlantatimemachine dot com) is awesome)..you would be damn hard pressed to show me any neighborhood in atlanta from 1960-present that has BENEFITTED in property value, as a result of new found racial diversity. I would say the best examples are south dekalb county neighborhoods of the late 60’s , and clayton county of 2000’s

Another place diversity drags things down has been public schools. Yes, public schools suck..but there used to be a few superior schools in a distric and (usually inner city) some failing schools. In an effort to achieve “diversity and equality” the government intoruced racial districting and busing..now you equal quality among most school, equally bad and failing. Check the test scores.

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corellation

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In other words, she voted for racism BEFORE she voted against it

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The treatment of white galley slaves was even worse than the treatment of black slaves who picked cotton

I see that the Texas Board of Education has already begun their white washing of history for the next generation of young minds. However, I’m a little confused about your reasons for posting this drivel…..perhaps you can help everyone to undertand why you think this is so. Could you please post a link, (National Archives in DC may help); of all the white slaves who were bought and sold at auction and/or their children taken away from them and sold on American soil? Thanks!

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UnPoliticallCorrect

I shared your comments earlier with Unmentionable. He says, “Are you a black Indian or a white Indian…you know once we come off the reservation we have to be one or the other. Can’t be a red Indian. If it’s not black-white, it’s not racism.”

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How on earth did not wanting an MLK day become racist? i do not agree with an MLK day because there were far great people in American History who have done more for this country.

With this being said, and I am by no means disregarding what MLK stood for and or accomplished, we are not even allowed to observe Presidents Day in schools as a holiday here in Houston but we MUST celebrate MLK day.

Why? I mean, Licoln/Washington/Jefferson and others accomplished a great deal more than MLK did, so why are we not observing this as a holiday?

Why doesn’t Lincoln get his own day, I mean after all 2 years into the Civil War he finally made the war about ending slavery. A much larger accomplishment than MLK.

One has to wonder if this is nothing more than White Liberal Guilt pandering to the black community for whatver political agenda they have in mind.

Kind of like calling people racist whom do not agree with them. Old and played out!

I must say, the racial divide has not shrunk since Obama has become president, rather it has widened and not because he his black, but because of his rhetoric, his policies, the people/friends he keeps and appoints to specific positions.

Again-disagreeing with having an MLK does not make one racist, rather it makes one question why this person deserves a government holiday when others have accomplished a great deal more in their time and for the entire country and they do not have a recognized holiday.

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Since these bozos have no intention of investigating further or prosecuting the Philadelphia Black Panther voter intimidation case, one would think that these racists would leap at the opportunity to defend one of there own.

One problem.

No leaping.

No tape?

Uh oh, another oinker is outed.

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Doggone/GA

July 20th, 2010
11:54 am

He was sent to her by either the GA dept of AG. or the Dept. of AG.

So she was working with the government. SHe was a partner with the dept. of ag or they would not have sent the farmer to her.

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hey josef!! the shiftless and lazy are feeling a little “shiftless” today! Thought I’d get on the blog and see what’s cooking. Kinda disappointed though that, yet again, it’s another discussion on race. Imagine that…in Georgia…a discussion on racial matters….who woulda thunk it?

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And then laughing for awhile at question eight on the referendum page…

But amvet doesn’t vote Democrat dontchaknow

amvet,

I do agree with the first part of your comment. When my wife and I voted this morning it was the two of us and six poll workers.

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DON’T FORGET TO VOTE AGAINST ALL LIBERALS TODAY !

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Well the same old boring racial taunts, suggestions and divisiveness are on this blog by the same old dividers. You guys keep talking, when you meet your maker (the one you love whom you have not seen; and yet you hate your brother); remember to ask him to read your posts on these blogs for an in-depth look at your experiences here on earth. I’m out.

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Continued upstairs…

DDR
Naaanh, a discussion of race in Georgia? Glad the shiftless are taking a day off. The sorry low down good for nuthin are gearing up to go back to the taxpayer’s benevolence!

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I presume the pathetic question was identical on the Democratic ballot with the R words merely replaced by the D words.

My busy little part of the city had exactly 86 people vote before me, about 45 minutes ago.

If I was King, I would mandate that all people who didn’t vote (and it damn well had better be for me) would be waterboarded whilst staring at pictures of Dick Cheney. (Is that double jeopardy?)

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Hi DDR!

“I see that the Texas Board of Education has already begun their white washing of history for the next generation of young minds.”

That comment is beneath you. Especially since I don’t think that view is part of the curriculum standards….

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amvet,

There were only 5 questions on the Republican ballot and they were vastly different from the 12 or so on the Dem ballot

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“There were only 5 questions on the Republican ballot…”

Maybe in your neck of the woods. But not in mine. Eight, as in the number that immediately follows seven, on the GOP ballot…

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What will the employees of the AJC do when the AJC goes bankrupt because of their failure to report the news fairly?

Perhaps without the left wing hacks like CT and Jaybird…maybe they would have a chance.

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Her words from today, not 24 years ago, clearly indicate prejudice, “I was struggling with the fact that so many black people had lost their farmland, and here I was faced with having to help a white person save their land. So I didn’t give him the full force of what I could do.”, and that’s enough to lose her government appointed job. While it’s unfortunate we live in a sociey where bigotry, racism, reverse discrimination, and negrophilia exist in abuncdance, it’s also reality.

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UnPolitically Correct, et al. in his boat:

It is sad how latently racist and historically ignorant your views are. It is quite an exceptional accomplishment to change an almost completely racist nation by leading non-violent resistance. In fact, it exceeds the level of national recognition and warrants recognition throughout ages to come.

And, since MLK was American, it is appropriate that he be honored here.

Oh, and Paul, the Civil Rights Act was also legislation. Why does the fact that McCain was involved in legislative descrimination mitigate its discriminatory nature?

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Don’t need to see the whole tape. She got called on the carpet and resigned.

If people of any race are dealing with people of other races the way she says she did then they need to be identified and exorcised from the system. I really don’t see the need for further discussion, and apparently the NAACP didn’t, either.

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JAY……..You liberals created this climate of political correctness…NOW..one of your own plantation Negros has gone down…Racism is on both sides….AJC is biased against white conservatives…just like Ms SHERROD IS..You should know just how she feels..Ms. liberal//

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Concerned citizen says: ” Fox News is the only news outlet left concerned with truth, justice and the (old) American way.”

Yes. The ”old” American way where black people had no rights. Sorry, you and your kind need to realize that it’s no longer 1950.

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So she did it and then felt remorse. Oh, what a damn shame. Bottomline Bookman, if this was a republican you would be screaming off with her head! You and Tucker are cut from the same mold and it looks like someone keeps forgetting to throw the mold away. More and more of you liberal, democratic apologist keep coming out. Now we have a story today how a group of you fine journalist formed a group to cover up the Reverend Wright story while are beloved leader ran for President. And you all wonder why Fox News has replaced the mainstream media?

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Isn’t it funny that any time a story isn’t what the far right wing nuts thought it was that it quickly falls on the “most viewed stories”.

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If it so dangerous Scott, then why is our President intent on fighting in Afghanhastan? A war you libs do not like? Bush is gone boys, time to take responsibility for your parties actions. God Knows they are going to pay for them in November. I guess you and Jon will be real scared after you lose control of the House. Fear is good.

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sfd,

“So maybe this no-brainer answer I’m saying Gov. Palin should’ve given, wasn’t so risk free as I’d thought.

Still that says more about the really messed-up constituency involved, here, than any wedge-y evilness aforethought on the part of that dastardly Katie Couric.”

Questions are asked for reasons – one must ask themselves what purpose such a “soft-ball” question would serve. It was a gotcha – the way it works is this:

Read one Fox article, one becomes a Fox affection-ado – regardless of the fact that one only read one article. The media paints the picture as they want it, not necessarily how it is.

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Marie, regarding: “Breitbart and/or FoxNews simply picked up what was already out there.”

Like I said: emotional, over reacting, knee-jerk ‘conservatives’. Charles Manson must surely be proud. He, too, wanted to start a race war in America:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helter_Skelter_(Manson_scenario)

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Just a sample of what black people do when they get their preferential jobs because of their skin color. We gonna get our share and the share you cheated us out of for 100 years. Get used to it whitey. Did deep and you will find thousands of examples of the same shame.

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gsparks, regarding: “This proves her guilty of giving or withholding government assistance on the basis of race…”

Only that’s not what happened.

“The wife of the white farmer allegedly discriminated against by the USDA’s rural development director for Georgia said Shirley Sherrod “kept us out of bankruptcy.”

Eloise Spooner, 82, awoke Tuesday to discover that Sherrod had lost her job after videotaped comments she made in March at a local NAACP banquet surfaced on the web.

But Spooner, who considers Sherrod a “friend for life,” said the federal official worked tirelessly to help the Iron City couple hold onto their land as they faced bankruptcy back in 1986.

“Her husband told her, ‘You’re spending more time with the Spooners than you are with me,’ ” Spooner told the AJC. “She took probably two or three trips with us to Albany just to help us out.”

Spooner called Sherrod Tuesday morning.

“She’s very sad about it,” Spooner said. “She told me she was so glad we talked. I just can’t believe this is happening to her.”

Source: http://www.ajc.com/news/farmers-wife-says-fired-574027.html

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So in full context the story was about how she learned and changed her attitude. The farmer’s wife is on record calling her a friend and saying her help saved the farm. Maybe Vilsack should resign for kowtowing so easily to rightwing smearmongers. Breitbart has a record of deceptively editing video for their smear campaigns and FAUX has a record of uncritical, biased reporting. Asking for her resignation without getting all the facts was a terrible move by Vilsack. He owes her a public apology at least. Anyone who trusts the Breitbart/FAUX version of a story is a sucker.

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The full tape does vindicate her (as if she needs vindicating). So does the white family whose farm she saved. In fact, the white family is shocked by the way she is being treated. A CNN story today completely debunked the claims made about this woman. Her story is in fact a personal one of understanding that white people are just as screwed by capitalism as are black people.

But suppose that we believe what we are being told to believe, namely that this is racism. Racism is a social system in which one racial group benefits systematically at the expense of another. It has never been true in the United States than blacks have benefited systematically at the expense of whites. It follows that her comments cannot be racist.

To call this racism is to falsely reduce racism to race prejudice (racism doesn’t even require race prejudice, and in fact these days racists prefer its absence). This is a decades old project to change the meaning of racism in order to legitimate the false concepts of “reverse racism” and “reverse discrimirnation.”

The fact that Obama caves everytime the right wants him to participate in the white power project to dissimulate racism tell us the reason why his election to office was desired by the powers that be.

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I hope Ms. Sharrod will sue those who have so viciously slandered her, especially in the Mainstream Media, into bankruptcy. As a working journalist since before Watergate, I have been appalled at the collapse of professional standards and ethics on the pretext that “it’s out there on the Internet” and the fecklessness, not of journalists, young or old, but of the corporate managers who prevent us from doing our job fairly and responsibly.

I also hope against hope that Obama will find the moral courage to fire everyone involved in the shameful capitulation to mob rule at USDA. He will, of course, need a new Secretary of Agriculture, and –the one silver lining in this cloud– there is a Black woman available who seems eminently qualfied from a lifetime of helping small farmers. And it will be a break from the corporate farm stooges we usually get in that post, both under Democrat and Republican presidents.

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Wow so much nastiness! I find it hard to believe that the NAACP had no video of their own running at this event that could be available to set the record straight of what this woman said, and how she said it.

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Yeah Jay, and I’d like to see the whole Robert Byrd n—— comment again (in context)!

Puhleaze!

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So if the racist is ‘innocent’, then why did she resign?

Oink oink

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The full tape shows she was explaining how 24 years ago, long before she was a federal employee, she confronted her prejudice and overcame it. She in fact went out of her way to help a white farmer save his farm from foreclosure. She was, in fact, explaining why race should not be a factor in helping another person. I think she should sue fox media for posting false and misleading information that resulted in her loss of employment.

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Someone remind me what happened to Trent Lott when he simply made a gesture to the 100 year-old Strom Thurmond. Lott did not say he longed for the years of segregation, he did not say that he wanted blacks to go back to the back of the bus or have separate bathrooms; he simply stated that Thurmond would have made a better president than those who were elected instead.

Because liberal white guilt and political correctness decided to dissect it and read into it does not mean what he said was racist.

I mean, it is not like he said “I did not want to help the black man” or “I sent the black man to his own people for help”; or “The black man was acting superior to me so I was only going to do the bare minimum so he would go back and say I helped him even though I could have and SHOULD have helped him more”.

Right…….Trent Lott had to resign from his position, but I digress.

Double Standards and Hypocrisy-Double Standards and Hypocrisy.

@ Holly- you are right, this is no longer the 1950’s; it is also NO LONGER the 1860’s, slavery is over and there is not a soul alive who was every a slave or a victim of slavery. With that, remind me why those of today must pay for the past indescretions of others only so those of today whom were NEVER a victim of slavery and milk a system based off of white liberal guilt and political correctness?

PS… I am not blind to the fact that racism is still alive and well today, so long as you guys are not blind to the fact that racism is an equal opportunity employer with ALL races.

Someone said earlier that blacks do not benefit at the expense of whites…..LMAO, really? What on earth is affirmative action? What on earth is preferential treatment with getting into colleges, law school medical school ect.? And with Obama’s new financial overhaul, what is up with the preferential treatment towards minorities?

Right- blacks are not benefiting at the expense of whites. Do let the rest of the world know when you return from Pluto!

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JUst to keep you “journalists” honest…I would like for you to know that the release of the sherrod tape was NOT about Sherrod, it was about the NAACP. Listen to the cheers from her NAACP audience as she describes her feelings about a white farmer…it is strange that a group who labels white tea party people “racists” has not looked st their own bigotry….Glass houses and rocks…..

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So…is anyone here going to apologize to Shirley Sherrod now? Seriously, where’s the apology? Come’on, cough it up!

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