In the curious case of Shirley Sherrod, let’s see the whole tape
A couple of folks in comments yesterday brought up the case of USDA official Shirley Sherrod, a black woman caught on tape at an NAACP meeting here in Georgia apparently bragging about being less than diligent in helping a white farmer. The folks at Big Government posted a portion of her speech as part of the running feud between the NAACP and the Tea Party over which organization is more racist.
By the end of the day Monday, Sherrod had been forced to resign her post, and NAACP President Ben Jealous had released a statement agreeing with the forced resignation:
“Racism is about the abuse of power. Sherrod had it in her position at USDA. According to her remarks, she mistreated a white farmer in need of assistance because of his race.
We are appalled by her actions, just as we are with abuses of power against farmers of color and female farmers.
Her actions were shameful. While she went on to explain in the story that she ultimately realized her mistake, as well as the common predicament of working people of all races, she gave no indication she had attempted to right the wrong she had done to this man.”
(UPDATE: The NAACP has now pulled that statement from its website.)
After watching the video Monday evening, I wrote in comments that “what Sherrod says in that video — and what she apparently did — are deeply troubling… She might very well have earned a firing. But I’d like to see that rest of that video as well, because at the point it abruptly ends, she appears to be saying that it’s wrong to think in terms of black and white, that she came to see things as more accurately divided between poor and rich than by race.”
As I also noted, the folks at Big Government seem to have the whole video, since they also posted another segment, and it would be useful to see the rest of it.
Sherrod gets a chance to tell her side of the story in an AJC story by Marcus Garner:
“But Tuesday morning, Sherrod said what online viewers weren’t told in reports posted throughout the day Monday was that the tale she told at the banquet happened 24 years ago — before she got the USDA job — when she worked with the Georgia field office for the Federation of Southern Cooperative/Land Assistance Fund.
Sherrod said the short video clip excluded the breadth of the story about how she eventually worked with the man over a two-year period to help ward off foreclosure of his farm, and how she eventually became friends with the farmer and his wife.
“And I went on to work with many more white farmers,” she said. “The story helped me realize that race is not the issue, it’s about the people who have and the people who don’t. When I speak to groups, I try to speak about getting beyond the issue of race.”
So let’s see the rest of the tape, Big Government. Was Sherrod giggling among black folk about the time she put it to the white man, as the leaked excerpt suggests, or was the tape a deceptively edited excerpt of a longer story about getting beyond the issue of race, as she claims?
Let’s see the tape. The evidence apparently exists to settle the question. Cough it up.
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Paul
July 20th, 2010
11:35 am
josef nix
I’d written something about bubble baths, epsom salts, working in the yard, alcohol and heat.. but thought that would set some off on tangents I really don’t want to read -
Dave
July 20th, 2010
11:35 am
Well this isn’t getting anywhere (as usual) except for “Liberal media good and pure and truthful” and “conservative media bad, racist, and liars”….
Maybe I’ll head over to Cynthia’s blog and talk about blunts…
BADA BING
July 20th, 2010
11:36 am
She is with the USDA. Do I have to tell you what the DA stands for?
josef nix
July 20th, 2010
11:39 am
PAUL
@ 11:35
So many lines, so little time!
thomas
July 20th, 2010
11:39 am
Doggone/GA
July 20th, 2010
11:24 am
i absolutely love how you continue to change your own definition just to avoid the dreaded words of saying you were wrong.
We all have biases and yours seems to be that you are incapable of viewing the actions and treatment of those on the “left” and those on the “right”.
You go on a rant about Bill o’reilly and defnding you not watching or whatever……
My point was this:
You DOGGONE, wrote this:
” I don’t know about “others” but Media Matters doesn’t. They always provide full context quotes, and links to the entire speech, statement, paper, whatever. I don’t always agree with their conclusions…but they DO provide the full information they used to draw that conclusion.
Despite the assertions of their “victims” ”
Then I show you the error of your ways and prove that Media Matters does not always provide full context quotes and links to the entire speeches.
Your claim was BS and you are too proud or arrogant to admit your fault I suppose
LeeH1
July 20th, 2010
11:40 am
I am a white man, and I am a racist. I have been told this repeatedly over the years by a number of different blacks, who told me repeatedly that all white people are racists. They also told me that no person of any race other than white can ever be racist.
Thus, this black woman is not racist becasue she is black, and I am racist because I am white. It is not racist to say that people of one color are racist, as long as they are white. It is not racist to say that anyone of a non-white race can never be racist, as long as you are not white.
However, because I am a white man, and because I am therefore a racist, I am not able to understand the logic of this. This shows that I am racist.
See?
USinUK
July 20th, 2010
11:41 am
thomas – to be honest, I haven’t really paid attention to Mel since his anti-Semitic rant last year (? year before? whenever) … all I know is he said something about burning his ex’s house down after she … ahem’d … him …
but, hey, I’m all for releasing the full tape if it puts that quote into context …
Jackie
July 20th, 2010
11:41 am
Wonder why many refuse to look at all the facts surrounding this situation and the representative time line?
How many are aware of the fact the Federal government still has not paid black farmers for the judgement against the USDA for its policies and practices of denying loans?
Wonder if the level of outrage exhibited by those supporting the firing of Mrs. Sherrod, without knowing the complete story, are equally outraged about the plight of the black farmers?
Doggone/GA
July 20th, 2010
11:41 am
“Then I show you the error of your ways and prove that Media Matters does not always provide full context quotes and links to the entire speeches.”
It’s a simple matter of disagreement. You say they didn’t. From what I read they did.
jt
July 20th, 2010
11:42 am
This is for all of you set-belt-law government-food-pyrimid-R &D voting warmist muslim fearing pansies out there.
Posted by Lew Rockwell on July 20, 2010 08:45 AM
The state’s ambition is always and everywhere totalitarian. All that keeps any state, including the US’s, from becoming total is public opposition, since state power always depends on the consent of the victims. After 9/11/01, when public opposition to the state receded in fear, the failure of US intelligence, national security, and defense was used as an excuse to vastly expand them all, especially in the corporatist direction. In the realm of intelligence, the expansion has been colossal, even in DC terms.
The US state is by far the biggest, richest, most powerful in history. Therefore it is also the most bureaucratic, i.e. tied in knots, economic and otherwise, of its own making. Far from being a problem, this is our hope. The empire is coming down. And its metastasis since 9/11/01 is what will finally choke off the tyranny. Oh, that and the worldwide depression its central bank and banksters concocted after 9/11/01.
In closing, it is interesting to note the best-selling books and movies last week on Amazon. American still has hope over the jelly spined metro-sexuals.
Nullification: How To Resist Federal Tyranny in the 21st Century, by Tom Woods;
The Rise and Decline of the State, by Martin Van Creveld.
The best-selling movies last week were:
Mel Gibson’s The Passion of the Christ;
Mel Gibson’s The Patriot;
Mel Gibson’s Braveheart.
josef nix
July 20th, 2010
11:43 am
And see, once again we go off on racism thoroughly mired in terms of black and white, brown, yellow and red alien to the conversation.
thomas
July 20th, 2010
11:44 am
USinUK
July 20th, 2010
11:41 am
Never know his lawyers say the tapes are doctored?
Why would you not pay attention to Mel after his anti-Semitic rant?
But are willing to overlook an admitted act of Racism by this woman?
Dusty
July 20th, 2010
11:46 am
Well, I voted. Did you? There was a trickle of people about as big as an Arizona river in the summer time. Not what you call a crowd.
Seems Wyld Byll is now replacing RedNeck at a different level. First we get the country boy and then we get the plantation pup. Putrefaction sets in.
The Bookman Supreme Court needs a little levity but scumbag scrofula ia too much.
Now back to deep thought. Whatchall having for lunch??? Is it raining in UK? Where is Sutton Hoo? Who?
thomas
July 20th, 2010
11:47 am
Doggone/GA
July 20th, 2010
11:41 am
The transcript begins with Bill o’reilly stating “So how do we get to this point”
What point are they speaking of? Must have been something before that established this point.
But you due to your inability to admit, even to yourself, that soemtimes you are wrong and have fault you don’t allow yourself to see this.
Truely fascinating.
Have you ever heard of a full transcript starting with a reference to another previous comment or speech without any reference to said prior speech?
phil
July 20th, 2010
11:47 am
That’s all I’m saying. Let us see the WHOLE tape and judge for ourselves!
USinUK
July 20th, 2010
11:48 am
thomas – 11:44 – I try to avoid celeb “news” whenever possible … other than the “burn your house down” thing (which I only know because there’s a website that evidently compares movie quotes with the quotes from his messages) I am blissfully unaware of how many tapes are out there or what they say.
“But are willing to overlook an admitted act of Racism by this woman?”
overlook? I’ve overlooked it? really?? because I’d like to see the entirety of her comments? huh.
Doggone/GA
July 20th, 2010
11:49 am
“Have you ever heard of a full transcript starting with a reference to another previous comment or speech without any reference to said prior speech?”
As I said earlier, a full TRANSCRIPT and full CONTEXT need not necessarily be the same thing. If you want the full TRANSCRIPT go to Bill O’Reilly’s website and find it. If there’s something there that is relevent to the Media Matters piece that they did not include, let them know…they’ll correct it.
Outhouse GoKart
July 20th, 2010
11:49 am
That lady is not very attractive either. Face only a mother could love.
@@
July 20th, 2010
11:50 am
Doggone:
I’m not gonna go thru and read all the comments here, but were you asking someone for proof that the Obama administration called for Ms. Sherrod to resign?
Ms. Sherrod, herself, is on record as saying the Obama administration got scared.
At WaPo, this is being reported:
The White House referred reporters to Vilsack’s statement, but a senior administration official said Sherrod had to go not because of what she did in 1986, but for how she told her story in March.
stands for decibels
July 20th, 2010
11:50 am
Whatchall having for lunch?
Leftover, homemade, fried dumplings (mostly filled with turkey sausage, a coupla shrimp ones as well) from last night. Not the healthiest thing but mm-mm-good.
You?
thomas
July 20th, 2010
11:51 am
USinUK
July 20th, 2010
11:48 am
I apologize I assumed you were with the group earlier of saying she should not have resigned.
In my book if a gov’t worker, while ever working for the gov in any capacity commits an act of admitted racism, then that federal employee no longer has a right or deserves their job.
Doggone/GA
July 20th, 2010
11:51 am
Countdown to “what do her looks have to do with it?” in 3-2-1
Personally, I hope no one is actualy dumb enough to even ask. You’ll only encourage him if you do.
Outhouse GoKart
July 20th, 2010
11:52 am
Yeppers…I see the problem. Not only is she ugly but she also is a fatty. No doubt she was/is just projecting her self-hatred onto whitey. Wanting whitey to suffer because of her ugliness.
ken
July 20th, 2010
11:52 am
And show Van Jones tapes also !!!!!!!
Doggone/GA
July 20th, 2010
11:52 am
“but were you asking someone for proof that the Obama administration called for Ms. Sherrod to resign?”
Maybe you SHOULD read all the comments. No, I was asking someone to provide a link that shows that Obama said he fired her. Which is what was claimed.
Outhouse GoKart
July 20th, 2010
11:53 am
Turkey Sausage…BLEH!
USinUK
July 20th, 2010
11:53 am
thomas – 11:51 – s’ok. the only point I made re: her resignation was that it isn’t an admission of guilt – that all too often, people are forced to resign for appearance’s sake, even if they haven’t actually done anything wrong. (generall, all-purpose statement, not limited to this event in particular)
At The Switch
July 20th, 2010
11:53 am
Shirley cannot be excused and the people she was talking to seemed to enjoy the screwing over of a white man. And unfortunately most whites are superior to black people. 835 of blacks in GA say BO is doing a good job. This is according to a poll done by your paper. I have to surmise this approval is based solely on the fact he is black and wants to redistribute wealth.
Doggone/GA
July 20th, 2010
11:54 am
“In my book if a gov’t worker, while ever working for the gov in any capacity commits an act of admitted racism, then that federal employee no longer has a right or deserves their job”
Then can we take it you agree she should NOT have resigned, since she WAN’T working for the government at the time?
“She told CNN that at the time, she was working with a nonprofit association aimed at assisting farmers in Georgia and the Southeast. “
stands for decibels
July 20th, 2010
11:55 am
…and Pamela Handerson.
Gman
July 20th, 2010
11:56 am
The real story here is the truth not spoken: As long as we continue to be comfortable (and even smugly justified) with framing the debate in terms of “us” vs. “them”, we are doomed to perpetuate bigotry and every other “ism”. Framing it as “those that have” vs “those that don’t” is every bit as dangerous and profane as framing it in terms of “black” vs “white”. IMO, we will never move past this until we accept that we are NOT all equal, NOT all entitled to every opportunity and NOT all capable of obtaining every blessing of living in this or any society and yet, we ARE all important and of value to one another, we ARE all capable of contributing to one another in meaningful ways and we all ARE entitled to benefit from living in this society. Once we accept and acknowledge that, maybe we can begin to accept and work towards a society where even the least of us is valued, nurtured and given a chance to live with dignity, while those whose talents and contributions are exceptional can still reap the rewards of their labor – without being envied or demonized…………………………
RW-(the original)
July 20th, 2010
11:57 am
sfb,
What you missed was the visual of Cheney’s face that showed his disdain and contempt for both the question and the Edwards response which is also why he refused to entertain the question.
Doggone/GA
July 20th, 2010
11:57 am
“She told CNN that at the time, she was working with a nonprofit association aimed at assisting farmers in Georgia and the Southeast. “
Oh yes, BTW, this appears to also explain why a white farmer was requesting assistance from that group.
thomas
July 20th, 2010
11:57 am
Doggone/GA
July 20th, 2010
11:49 am
But you went much further than to stop at full-transcript and full text.
Read your original post of the thing Media Maatters Always does.
They did not do that in Mr. O’reilly’s case.
and more…..
look at these 2 seems they did it to Chris Matthews as well. i will let you inform Media Matters so they can change it. I would but they may misquote me!
http://mediamatters.blogsome.com/2006/07/13/media-matters-fabricates-transcript-to-falsely-claim-that-chris-matthews-praised-conservative-ad/
http://mediamatters.org/research/200607110004
@@
July 20th, 2010
11:58 am
Doggone:
Maybe you SHOULD read all the comments.
Naaahhhhh, the racism thingy has worn out it’s welcome in my world.
You think someone in the administration made the decision without Obama’s approval?
It’s obvious Ms. Sherrod doesn’t think so. She said it was Obama that got scared.
Doggone/GA
July 20th, 2010
11:58 am
thomas…you got a problem with Media Matters? Fine, take it up with them. They don’t pay me to defend them, and they don’t need me to defend them.
Alatsea
July 20th, 2010
11:59 am
USinUK
Resigning in a case like this is quit or be asked to quit. The head of the USDA stated that this is a zero tolerance offense. So your saying she really did not do anything wrong? If this would have been a white person what do you think the black population would have done?
Doggone/GA
July 20th, 2010
11:59 am
“You think someone in the administration made the decision without Obama’s approval?”
since it appears that she resigned, and was not “fired” then what decision needed to be made? Seems to me SHE made the decision.
At The Switch
July 20th, 2010
11:59 am
That would be 83% of blacks
Dusty
July 20th, 2010
12:01 pm
Stands for Decibels,
I’m calling the EMTs for you right now. FRIED DUMPLINS WITH TURKEY SAUSAGE??? Hurry…911.
I think I will go have some PeptoBismol just thinking ’bout it. But I bet it tastes good. Better than mine. No good leftovers. Ate out last night.. Down to lettuce, tomatoes, strawberries and blueberries and that does not make good soup. I think I’ll eat at your house. Have you got it warmed up yet?
@@
July 20th, 2010
12:01 pm
Doggone:
It was probably a negotiated deal where she got to retain her benefits if she resigned. Happens all the time.
Outhouse GoKart
July 20th, 2010
12:01 pm
She needs to lose some weight and perhaps be happier. I bet her hubby looks at her and says OH MY GOD…what have I done? Then sits in the corner for hours just cryin.
USinUK
July 20th, 2010
12:02 pm
Alatsea – no argument that you resign or “are resigned” … but that doesn’t mean that we know the entirety of her comments. without knowing that (particularly given her statement quoted by Jay), I withhold judgement.
josef nix
July 20th, 2010
12:02 pm
Question–is Ms. Sherrod a country mouse or a city mouse?
Bubba
July 20th, 2010
12:03 pm
The farmer’s wife is defending Sherrod. It appears she is telling the truth, and if so should get her job back.
Outhouse GoKart
July 20th, 2010
12:04 pm
She was told resign or be fired.
josef nix
July 20th, 2010
12:07 pm
Lunch? Fred Sanford cabbage rolls and yellow cake with chocolate icing…
Alatsea
July 20th, 2010
12:08 pm
USinUK
Point taken. TOO many things today are taken out of context to create the appearance of see I told you so. I think all media, instead of reporting the facts try to manipulate them for their agenda or an agenda they support. I try to get as much information as possible then make my own decision. Unfortunately what I am seeing in this country is not something to wave our flag about.
josef nix
July 20th, 2010
12:08 pm
Bubba–
Got a link to that, please?
RW-(the original)
July 20th, 2010
12:10 pm
Sherrod resigns and some folks say it’s just a resignation
McChrystal resigns and the same people that claim the above say he was fired.
Interesting
USinUK
July 20th, 2010
12:11 pm
lunch is long past … so dinner will be jerk chicken, black beans and rice, mango salsa and corn on the cob
Mick
July 20th, 2010
12:11 pm
**I have to surmise this approval is based solely on the fact he is black and wants to redistribute wealth.**
Evidence of the sheer ignorance some have accepted as fact…
Jay
July 20th, 2010
12:12 pm
RW, I’ve never thought there was any difference whatsoever between being fired and being allowed to resign.
stands for decibels
July 20th, 2010
12:13 pm
RW @ 11.57, I guess I could go back and watch the thing all over again, but I did see it live, and while one can be forgiven for reading what one likes into a response, I took Cheney’s statement at face value.
As for his facial expression of “disdain and contempt”, let’s be real—you can tell this from his normal scowl, how?
And I really don’t recall this being something he complained about after the debate. It wasn’t until the Kerry/Bush debate that mentioning an out-and-proud adult became, for some reason, off limits.
Dusty
July 20th, 2010
12:13 pm
Well, thinking about lunch has me all behind here. But…I see Doggone has figured out the whole thing. It is the WHITE FARMER’S FAULT because he has a tape worm and Bookman wants to see the whole tape. He’s gonna worm out of this one way or another with Doggone’s help.
But forgive me STANDS FOR DECIBELS, but I think I will eat lunch with JOSEF. I mean “Chocolate Icing”????? How can fried turkey noodles stand up to THAT! I know. I’m weak! Heartless!! and HUNGRY!!! Forgive me!! (JOSEF, slow down! You gotta leave me some!)
Alatsea
July 20th, 2010
12:14 pm
USinUK
Shave the corn off the cob and add it to your mango salsa it adds another flavor and texture. I have done this and this is not taken out of context
joec
July 20th, 2010
12:15 pm
No matter what you wish to argue,the clip should be shown in it’s entirety.
Alatsea
July 20th, 2010
12:15 pm
Jay there isn’t except it looks better on your resume.
UnPoliticallyCorrect
July 20th, 2010
12:15 pm
GatorJoes’ comment: However, there is a difference between the racism inspired by the idea of white supremacy and racism which is a reaction by Blacks to having been victims, for hundreds of years, of white racism. Two wrongs, of course, don’t make a right, but the latter is more understandable than the former”
Lord have mercy are you kidding? Hmmmmmmmmm…….Maybe Joe is a product of the b*st*rdization of Government run education, therefore I will help him out here: Slavery has been perpetuated by ALL races against ALL races. The Sad and true facts, blacks in Africa are STILL to this very day enslaving their own people- but I digress!
Just as Europeans enslaved Africans, North Africans enslaved Europeans — more Europeans than there were Africans enslaved in the United States or in the 13 colonies from which the nation was formed.
The treatment of white galley slaves was even worse than the treatment of black slaves who picked cotton. But there are no movies or television dramas about it comparable to Roots, and our schools and colleges don’t pound it into the heads of students.
UnPoliticallyCorrect
July 20th, 2010
12:17 pm
Jay- if you are fired you get ZERO of your benefits, however if you resign you keep 100% of your benefits along with the benefit of being able to claim you were not fired. Also, if she is NOT fired she cannot collect unemployment.
USinUK
July 20th, 2010
12:17 pm
Jay – 12:12 – if you’re fired, you’re eligible for unemployment … if you resign, you’re not.
Bubba
July 20th, 2010
12:17 pm
Josef Nix: CNN had an interview with her.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/07/20/agriculture.employee.naacp/index.html?hpt=T1
RW-(the original)
July 20th, 2010
12:18 pm
RW, I’ve never thought there was any difference whatsoever between being fired and being allowed to resign.
Maybe not in government but there’s usually some real world differences as to future benefits etc.
DebbieDoRight
July 20th, 2010
12:18 pm
Jackie: Wonder if the level of outrage exhibited by those supporting the firing of Mrs. Sherrod, without knowing the complete story, are equally outraged about the plight of the black farmers?
Of course not.
Jay, I know it’s Georgia and I know that there are SOME georgians who still wished they lived in the pre-civil war era, however, could we go at least ONE WEEK without talking about, bringing up, or questioning racial related matters? Just saying…….
stands for decibels
July 20th, 2010
12:18 pm
aw c’mon, Jay… my 11.55? really? could it be construed as a … personal attack?
really?
If so, you really might oughta take down the one immediately following it, because it makes absolutely no sense out of context.
USinUK
July 20th, 2010
12:18 pm
alatsea – 12:14 … oh, YEAH! excellent idea
Outhouse GoKart
July 20th, 2010
12:19 pm
“We had to let him/her go” At Fault.
“They resigned” Not at fault.
USinUK
July 20th, 2010
12:19 pm
heading home .. have a great evening!!
josef nix
July 20th, 2010
12:19 pm
Bubba
Got it. Thanks.
Okay, the wife of the farmer has spoken. She defends Ms. Sherrod. I’ll take her word for it and the rest of us should, too.
SPQR(laissez Faire)
July 20th, 2010
12:20 pm
@getalife..
It is easy to draw a graph showing the decline of the usa in direct corrallation with it’s increasing diversity..particulary the 24 million diverse illegal aliens who “enrich” our fair country.
WHile diversity is good in some areas..after all, I love a late night sushi dinner at ru san’s, it has brought definate drawbacks elsewhere.
For kicks I like to research historical atlanta …(btw the atlantatimemachine dot com) is awesome)..you would be damn hard pressed to show me any neighborhood in atlanta from 1960-present that has BENEFITTED in property value, as a result of new found racial diversity. I would say the best examples are south dekalb county neighborhoods of the late 60’s , and clayton county of 2000’s
Another place diversity drags things down has been public schools. Yes, public schools suck..but there used to be a few superior schools in a distric and (usually inner city) some failing schools. In an effort to achieve “diversity and equality” the government intoruced racial districting and busing..now you equal quality among most school, equally bad and failing. Check the test scores.
Alatsea
July 20th, 2010
12:20 pm
Mange’
SPQR(laissez Faire)
July 20th, 2010
12:20 pm
corellation
RW-(the original)
July 20th, 2010
12:23 pm
And I really don’t recall this being something he complained about after the debate
sfb,
It would have looked ridiculous for Cheney himself to complain after the debate and plenty of surrogates did. You can carry on if you want but I’m going to leave 2004 now.
JRyan
July 20th, 2010
12:23 pm
In other words, she voted for racism BEFORE she voted against it
stands for decibels
July 20th, 2010
12:23 pm
How can fried turkey noodles stand up to THAT!
who said anything about fried turkey noodles? sounds gross.
We’ve been messing about with won ton pastry of late. We made some nice Nutella-filled fried won tons for a dessert not too long ago (can’t remember which FoodTV show inspired my better half, mighta been Gianna…)
Last night’s experiment was cooked, crumbled turkey sausage, parsley, ginger, some other stuff used as filler in those same won ton skins. We don’t really know from deep frying but it was fun to try, and they came out pretty good.
(Not so great microwaved the next day, though.)
DebbieDoRight
July 20th, 2010
12:23 pm
The treatment of white galley slaves was even worse than the treatment of black slaves who picked cotton
I see that the Texas Board of Education has already begun their white washing of history for the next generation of young minds. However, I’m a little confused about your reasons for posting this drivel…..perhaps you can help everyone to undertand why you think this is so. Could you please post a link, (National Archives in DC may help); of all the white slaves who were bought and sold at auction and/or their children taken away from them and sold on American soil? Thanks!
Outhouse GoKart
July 20th, 2010
12:24 pm
“National Archives in DC may help”
Highly doubtful.
josef nix
July 20th, 2010
12:25 pm
UnPoliticallCorrect
I shared your comments earlier with Unmentionable. He says, “Are you a black Indian or a white Indian…you know once we come off the reservation we have to be one or the other. Can’t be a red Indian. If it’s not black-white, it’s not racism.”
Dusty
July 20th, 2010
12:25 pm
Now USinUK, I just knew you’d come up with Jerk Chicken. Just because I can’t swim that far. But Mango salsa (burp) and two carbohydrates? hmmm hmmm Do you by any chance play first bases for the Brewers? Oopss… Sorry. Wandered off into basball.
Now I’m really hungry. Josef and SFD ate up everything.but hungry or not, this is very interesting!!!Bookman wants to tell us his past experiences with being fired and being let resign Did it hurt a lot, Jay??? Did the children have to go to work??
UnPoliticallyCorrect
July 20th, 2010
12:26 pm
How on earth did not wanting an MLK day become racist? i do not agree with an MLK day because there were far great people in American History who have done more for this country.
With this being said, and I am by no means disregarding what MLK stood for and or accomplished, we are not even allowed to observe Presidents Day in schools as a holiday here in Houston but we MUST celebrate MLK day.
Why? I mean, Licoln/Washington/Jefferson and others accomplished a great deal more than MLK did, so why are we not observing this as a holiday?
Why doesn’t Lincoln get his own day, I mean after all 2 years into the Civil War he finally made the war about ending slavery. A much larger accomplishment than MLK.
One has to wonder if this is nothing more than White Liberal Guilt pandering to the black community for whatver political agenda they have in mind.
Kind of like calling people racist whom do not agree with them. Old and played out!
I must say, the racial divide has not shrunk since Obama has become president, rather it has widened and not because he his black, but because of his rhetoric, his policies, the people/friends he keeps and appoints to specific positions.
Again-disagreeing with having an MLK does not make one racist, rather it makes one question why this person deserves a government holiday when others have accomplished a great deal more in their time and for the entire country and they do not have a recognized holiday.
josef nix
July 20th, 2010
12:27 pm
DDR
hey, girl! I haven’t forgotten you. Just giving it some thought. Went visiting this weekend and haven’t gotten around to it…and thanks again!
Bud Wiser
July 20th, 2010
12:28 pm
Since these bozos have no intention of investigating further or prosecuting the Philadelphia Black Panther voter intimidation case, one would think that these racists would leap at the opportunity to defend one of there own.
One problem.
No leaping.
No tape?
Uh oh, another oinker is outed.
AmVet
July 20th, 2010
12:29 pm
One of the really great aspects of an unengaged, uninformed and uninvolved electorate is how I can go and be done voting in about two minutes. The longest parts were talking with this older gentleman who worked at the polling station about George McGovern, jumping out of airplanes, etc.
And then laughing for awhile at question eight on the referendum page…
thomas
July 20th, 2010
12:30 pm
Doggone/GA
July 20th, 2010
11:54 am
He was sent to her by either the GA dept of AG. or the Dept. of AG.
So she was working with the government. SHe was a partner with the dept. of ag or they would not have sent the farmer to her.
Bubba
July 20th, 2010
12:31 pm
Wait, it gets curiouser. Sherrod also told CNN the White House pressed for her resignation.
DebbieDoRight
July 20th, 2010
12:32 pm
hey josef!! the shiftless and lazy are feeling a little “shiftless” today! Thought I’d get on the blog and see what’s cooking. Kinda disappointed though that, yet again, it’s another discussion on race. Imagine that…in Georgia…a discussion on racial matters….who woulda thunk it?
thomas
July 20th, 2010
12:33 pm
Doggone/GA
July 20th, 2010
11:58 am
No problem with them.
You made a statement, I have a problem with your statement… because it is a lie.
Either retract your statement or defend it. But don’t go all coward on me and claim it is not your job to edefend Media matters.
It ain’t your job to say what they ALWAYS do and don’t do but you took that job on.
RW-(the original)
July 20th, 2010
12:33 pm
And then laughing for awhile at question eight on the referendum page…
But amvet doesn’t vote Democrat dontchaknow
amvet,
I do agree with the first part of your comment. When my wife and I voted this morning it was the two of us and six poll workers.
Scout
July 20th, 2010
12:35 pm
josef @ 11:26 :
LOL ! You are so correct. I’m predicting old “Porky Pig” will be a thing of the past soon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P49sLoe6H8
There probably will come a time when you can’t even buy “bacon” or “pork-n-beans” in the supermarkets as it might “offend” a Muslim shopper …………….. God help us.
Scout
July 20th, 2010
12:35 pm
DON’T FORGET TO VOTE AGAINST ALL LIBERALS TODAY !
Dusty
July 20th, 2010
12:35 pm
Stands for Decibells,
I think Jay doesn’t like your turkey wonton fried noodles. Ha! What does he know?? I bet Jay never even ate a turkey wonton fried noddle or even a tape of a turkey wonton fried noddle? The man is circumstantial, I tellya.
Now Wingfield knows a turkey wonton fried noddle when he sees one and doesn’t call for a tape. See what I mean. To eat or not to eat? That is the question.
DebbieDoRight
July 20th, 2010
12:36 pm
Well the same old boring racial taunts, suggestions and divisiveness are on this blog by the same old dividers. You guys keep talking, when you meet your maker (the one you love whom you have not seen; and yet you hate your brother); remember to ask him to read your posts on these blogs for an in-depth look at your experiences here on earth. I’m out.
SPQR(laissez Faire)
July 20th, 2010
12:36 pm
@@upc
Bravo, and ditto for black history month.
History is history…it doesn’t have color. If you have black history month, you definatly need a greek history month.. a roman history month..
josef nix
July 20th, 2010
12:36 pm
Continued upstairs…
DDR
Glad the shiftless are taking a day off. The sorry low down good for nuthin are gearing up to go back to the taxpayer’s benevolence!
Naaanh, a discussion of race in Georgia?
@@
July 20th, 2010
12:37 pm
Ms. Sherrod claims that the point she was trying to make is that it wasn’t about race.
Maybe she should have looked out on the audience and asked…”How many of you have ever looked upon a white face, and automatically assumed his/hers was an attitude of superiority…of entitlement? Well let me tell you, I’ve made that same mistake in the past. It’s not about race, it’s about coming together and fulfilling a need, regardless of race.”
That would have been so much better.
Theatrics may play well, but it’ll, often times, bite you in the ass. A person has a tendency to get carried away.
AmVet
July 20th, 2010
12:38 pm
I presume the pathetic question was identical on the Democratic ballot with the R words merely replaced by the D words.
My busy little part of the city had exactly 86 people vote before me, about 45 minutes ago.
If I was King, I would mandate that all people who didn’t vote (and it damn well had better be for me) would be waterboarded whilst staring at pictures of Dick Cheney. (Is that double jeopardy?)
Jay
July 20th, 2010
12:38 pm
New update on this upstairs.
Paul
July 20th, 2010
12:39 pm
Hi DDR!
“I see that the Texas Board of Education has already begun their white washing of history for the next generation of young minds.”
That comment is beneath you. Especially since I don’t think that view is part of the curriculum standards….
josef nix
July 20th, 2010
12:39 pm
DUSTY
Jay’s circumstantial? He don’t look Jewish to me…
Scout…
Remind me late night to tell you about Unmentionable’s shopping at Toco Hills…
RW-(the original)
July 20th, 2010
12:41 pm
amvet,
There were only 5 questions on the Republican ballot and they were vastly different from the 12 or so on the Dem ballot