Trent Lott on Tea Party candidates: ‘As soon as they get here, we need to co-opt them’

The money quote from a Washington Post piece on the Tea Party and Washington’s GOP establishment:

Former Senate majority leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.), now a D.C. lobbyist, warned that a robust bloc of rabble-rousers spells further Senate dysfunction. “We don’t need a lot of Jim DeMint disciples,” Lott said in an interview. “As soon as they get here, we need to co-opt them.”

But Lott said he’s not expecting a tea-party sweep. “I still have faith in the visceral judgment of the American people,” he said.

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Doggone/GA

July 19th, 2010
12:31 pm

It won’t be necessary to “co-opt” them…they’ll fall right in line the minute they finish their oath.

thomas

July 19th, 2010
12:40 pm

Jay kinda unfair to broadcast the opinion and quote of a non-seated congressman, one who is not in office……….. But you find a way to omit the much more rational quote of John Cornyn form Texas an Actual elected official instead of a boogie man.

From the same Washington Post Article you cited………….
Republicans such as Paul and Sharron Angle in Nevada may hold provocative views, but “they’re our nominees and I think we ought to get behind them 100 percent,” said Sen. John Cornyn (Tex.).

“The candidates are not ours to choose,” said Cornyn, chairman of the Republican Senatorial Campaign Committee. “They’re the choice of the primary voters in the states, and I think we should respect their choices.”

Or is there a new rule of thought for congress eligibility?

Seems you want the republican party to stay the same with no new ideas…. WHY?

@@

July 19th, 2010
12:43 pm

You’re slow, jay. I linked to that piece two days ago.

May I call you “Pokey”?

Doggone/GA

July 19th, 2010
12:43 pm

“Seems you want the republican party to stay the same with no new ideas…. WHY?”

Maybe, just maybe, you should be asking that question of Trent Lott…and not Jay.

Jay

July 19th, 2010
12:46 pm

I’ve been called worse, @@.

Maybe even by you!

Normal

July 19th, 2010
12:46 pm

So, is tomorrow voting day?

Normal

July 19th, 2010
12:47 pm

I’ll say it first. Jay is hokie pokie?

@@

July 19th, 2010
12:49 pm

I’ve been called worse, @@.

Maybe even by you!

In an e-mail?

(ISH)

thomas

July 19th, 2010
12:50 pm

Doggone/GA

July 19th, 2010
12:43 pm

didn’t he already get voted out of office?

Isn’t he a lobbyist now?

What official role does Trent Lott hold in the RNC?

I asked jay because he cherry-picked quotes of an entire article… but left out any mention of the will of the people quote.

Atleast Mr. Lott is honest and up front with his position….. he gave his opinion.

He didn’t cherry pick quotes in an attempt to paint an entire party with a simple stroke of the brush.

jay did… even going as far to say the “money quote”…..

When the quote was nothing more than a support quote for one sides of the argument the article was discussing.

Is that a worthy answer?

Doggone/GA

July 19th, 2010
12:51 pm

“I asked jay because he cherry-picked quotes of an entire article”

He linked the article. What do you think, he should have just copied and pasted it so he could be accused of “plagiarism”?

Lott’s quote is the “money” quote – not the gist of the entire piece.

Dusty

July 19th, 2010
12:55 pm

Well, I was just getting all hot and bothered over the last subject and Jay sneaked in comments from someone no longer in Congress. TEA PARTY AGAIN???

Could some kind soul dash a little cool water on Bookman? The heat has triggered his repetition reflexes.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

July 19th, 2010
12:56 pm

Well, I co-opted a guy once. Right upside the head. He was making a move on the missus.

Anyhow, I don’t see how a guy that stood up for old Strom Thurmond has any right to call us Tea Party Patriots a bunch of trouble-makers. I mean, we ain’t a bunch of civil rights protesters and hippies. We’re just the opposite. We’re on the same side as him. Lott must of got a bad case of the dumbs after he left the Senate. And when you think about it you realize we’re just Republicans. Real mad Republicans. We want to Take Our Country Back from the radicals and commies that took over a couple years ago. If we don’t do something quick there’s going to be a tax increase and there goes the whole ball game. Us Conservatives get the cold sweats at night worrying about tax increases. Time’s a-wastin’.

Anyway, if people like Lott work with us we can get rid of this ObamaCare and the other stuff the libruls rammed down our throats. Or up our—well, never mind.

Have a good p.m. everybody.

Axis of Elvira

July 19th, 2010
12:58 pm

Now we know why Jesus was so angry in the Last Passion of Christ….

Peadawg

July 19th, 2010
1:00 pm

“TEA PARTY AGAIN???”

Ya, it seems like they have some leg humpers over here at the AJC.

Mick

July 19th, 2010
1:00 pm

Trent lott – mover and shaker now a raker and taker of the special interest…

TaxPayer

July 19th, 2010
1:01 pm

I think these tea partiers are just what the GOP need. The more Sharron Angles, the better.

Finn McCool

July 19th, 2010
1:04 pm

Ted Haggard is back in the pulpit? Who are his sheep?

Granny Godzilla

July 19th, 2010
1:06 pm

SPQR(laissez Faire)

July 19th, 2010
1:09 pm

Jesus was angry because of the jews selling him down the river.
Jeremiah Wright’ big ole bible, King Mel Edition

Jews are angry because obama is selling them down the river..
Reality, 2010

And the vote grows near…

July 20th…Elect non stateist non collectivist non compromising candidates in the primary.

Nov 2..take out all your hatred of the marxist leninist policies of the POS obama, on his minions, the house and senate and state house and governors mansion Democrats!

Burn ‘em …Burn ‘em all

@@

July 19th, 2010
1:10 pm

We all know how the Democratic Party deals with their unruly reps…they bribe ‘em with OUR money.

I resent that many Republican politicians fear Tea Party candidates showing up on the hill because they might be difficult to manage.

Yet some Republicans worry that tea-party candidates are settling too comfortably into their roles as unruly insurgents and could prove hard to manage if they get elected.

Message to all in Washington. We, the People are the Masters of our own destiny. You are but lowly servants making waaayyyyy too much money.

Dusty

July 19th, 2010
1:10 pm

RedNeck, honey,

I hope libs are paying you a bunch for this stuff you put out. Somebody ought to get something out of it. Might as well be you as the rest of us are getting zero. That includes me.

Well, maybe Doggone might. She loves to pick a fight. Probably lives in a trailer too. Only her dogs wouldn’t tolerate pink flamingos. They have good taste.

josef nix

July 19th, 2010
1:11 pm

Trent Lott
Wasn’t he laid to rest right after he said he was sorry? C’mon, Jay, surely you can do better than this!

josef nix

July 19th, 2010
1:16 pm

Dusty
Better watch them trailer comments…folks around here are liable to mistake you for a liberal… :-)

harvey

July 19th, 2010
1:18 pm

Well you know what Lott means. Get an honest man in Washington and make a sleazy lying politician out of him or her as fast as we can. That might be pretty easy to do, given Congressmen get a 5% raise every year, healthcare and pensions for life, and make themselves exempt from all the pain in the bum legislation they pass. It is pretty a pretty cushy job, and then of course there are all the bribes. It will take a really honest person to withstand the pressure.

SPQR(laissez Faire)

July 19th, 2010
1:18 pm

As a big fan of LOGIC over EMOTION, here is a god bit of pespective…

If the Gulf of Mexico – the 7th largest body of water in the world, containing approximately 660 quadrillion gallons of water (that’s 660 with 15 zeros) – was represented by Cowboys Stadium in Dallas – the largest domed stadium in the world – how would the spill stack up?

In this example, the amount of oil spilled – if the Gulf of Mexico was the size of Cowboys Stadium – would be about the size of a 24 ounce can of beer.

Cowboys stadium has an internal volume of approximately 104 million cubic feet, compared to the just over 50 cubic inches of volume in a 24-ounce can.

Just like the can, the spilled oil represents only .00000002788% of the liquid volume present in the Gulf of Mexico.

SPQR(laissez Faire)

July 19th, 2010
1:19 pm

Well , I guess hate is an emotion, but the only useful one~

josef nix

July 19th, 2010
1:20 pm

laissez

Yeah, but if that can is opened and sprays straight in your face, takes on a different dimension.

RB from Gwinnett

July 19th, 2010
1:22 pm

I think Jay’s fascination with the Tea Party is merely a cover to keep his wife from knowing he’s infatuated with Sarah Palin. He’s been posting about her non stop for 18 months and the wife has to suspect something by now.

You’d think the white house was unoccupied by his near complete avoidance of anything going on there. But I guess O is on yet another vacation….. Strange how Bush vacations were news and O vacations aren’t.

From a previous post, Jay, if you don’t think the good Rev. Wright, his followers, and countless other churches just like his are cut from the same cloth as the black panthers, you really aren’t paying attention. Or you’re not being honest. Take your pick.

jt

July 19th, 2010
1:22 pm

“July 20th…Elect non stateist non collectivist non compromising candidates in the primary”

There is none of the above in the republican or democrat primaries. The closest would be that wal-mart worker for governor whom I voted for. (absentee ballot).

The libertarian party has no primary.

popeye

July 19th, 2010
1:23 pm

“rational quote of John Cornyn form Texas. ”

Cornyn, rational I must have missed that quote, and all others attributed to him!

Finn McCool

July 19th, 2010
1:26 pm

SPQR,
it’s polite to link to a source when you copy and paste something word for word. You wouldn’t want us mistaking all that for your work, now would you?

thomas

July 19th, 2010
1:27 pm

Doggone/GA

July 19th, 2010
12:51 pm

How and why is Lott’s quote the money quote?

What power, signifigance, or position in the Republican National Committee does Lott have or hold?

Is it his non-say-so in the RNC that makes this the money quote?

Oh I got it must have been all the attention and publicity Trent Lott has been getting lately that makes it the money quote?

Jimmy62

July 19th, 2010
1:28 pm

Makes sense. Hopefully the Tea Party and the people will instead get rid of the Washington political elite who think they can pull the same junk over and over again.

Joe

July 19th, 2010
1:30 pm

Trent Lott: “I still have faith in the visceral judgment of the American people,

If by visceral, Lott means “not intellectual”, then I agree that such judgment is exactly what most voters rely on. However, I don’t agree that we should have faith in our “visceral” judgment.

For example, an article was posted the other day on the Wall Street Journal’s website about struggling states that are actually having to replace paved roads with gravel or dirt roads in order to save money. It mentioned a North Dakota lady who specifically voted against raising taxes to pay for paved roads (via a ballot measure addressing that issue) while simultaneously writing a letter to the Governor to ask him to prevent a nearby road from being converted from asphalt to gravel.

This anecdote just reinforces my belief that our country’s problems have less to do with our politicians and more to do with greedy and ignorant (deliberately, it seems) voters who prefer to rely as much or more on their emotions than on their brains.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704913304575370950363737746.html

thomas

July 19th, 2010
1:31 pm

Do you not feel it is the job of the people to elect officials for the candidates views and not those of the party?

If so then explain how Cornyn’s quote is not rational?

“The candidates are not ours to choose,” said Cornyn, chairman of the Republican Senatorial Campaign Committee. “They’re the choice of the primary voters in the states, and I think we should respect their choices.”

Or you could explain to us all why YOU feel it is that we the people should not be allowed to send the person and ideas we elect to Washington?

How should we send our elected officials?

Outhouse GoKart

July 19th, 2010
1:31 pm

“Just like the can, the spilled oil represents only .00000002788% of the liquid volume present in the Gulf of Mexico.”

And thats why the crabs, lobsters, sea cucumbers, sea urchins, urchins like G CrackHead, porpi, sand dollars, ocean eagles, sea going flying squirrels – migrating of course, whale-tuna, dogfish and the like will be able to devour it all.

thomas

July 19th, 2010
1:32 pm

popeye

July 19th, 2010
1:23 pm
My apologies,

This was all for you:

thomas

July 19th, 2010
1:31 pm
Do you not feel it is the job of the people to elect officials for the candidates views and not those of the party?

If so then explain how Cornyn’s quote is not rational?

“The candidates are not ours to choose,” said Cornyn, chairman of the Republican Senatorial Campaign Committee. “They’re the choice of the primary voters in the states, and I think we should respect their choices.”

Or you could explain to us all why YOU feel it is that we the people should not be allowed to send the person and ideas we elect to Washington?

How should we send our elected officials?

popeye

July 19th, 2010
1:32 pm

“Well, I was just getting all hot and bothered over the last subject and Jay sneaked in comments from someone no longer in Congress. TEA PARTY AGAIN”???

“Could some kind soul dash a little cool water on Bookman? The heat has triggered his repetition reflexes”.

Sounds like you Dusty could use more than a dash of cool water.

“Hot and bothered” would require a long cool shower .. enjoy!

SPQR(laissez Faire)

July 19th, 2010
1:32 pm

Finn Mccool, why not..If i plagarize enough, maybe I can become Vice President like VP Bite me.
It was in a flash slide show on cnbc or i would have posted the link.

Here is the reason liberal bloggers and commentators only nibble the periphery of the coming election..

btw..from Time..

Under pressure, the Democrats are cracking. On both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue, there is a realization that Nancy Pelosi’s hold on the speakership is in true jeopardy; that losing control of the Senate is not out of the question; and that time, once the Democrats’ best friend, is now their mortal enemy. Since January, when Scott Brown won Ted Kennedy’s Massachusetts Senate seat, the President’s party has tried to downplay in public what its pollsters have been saying in private: that Obama’s alienation of independents and white voters, along with the enthusiasm gap between the right and the left, means that Republicans are on a trajectory to pick up massive numbers of House and Senate seats, perhaps even to regain control of Congress.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,2004646,00.html#ixzz0u9NuDTI3

josef nix

July 19th, 2010
1:32 pm

Joe
Aw, have a little faith in the electorate. You do vote, don’t you?

Me

July 19th, 2010
1:38 pm

SPQR “Just like the can, the spilled oil represents only .00000002788% of the liquid volume present in the Gulf of Mexico.”

Tell this to the people who make a living off the Gulf of Mexico…………

eugene u. genius

July 19th, 2010
1:39 pm

laissez is the queen of copy and paste, poor girl can’t think for herself, her glenn beck panties are bunching up.

AmVet

July 19th, 2010
1:40 pm

Jeebus H. Criminey! These needy, wasteful Republicans! Just how many robo-calls is a citizen supposed to put up with in a given day? Just for grins, I track how long it takes before the word conservative comes out of their mealy mouths. Almost always within ten seconds. Click and a kiss my ___.

Too bad I missed the new wave global cooling science downstairs. I’m sure the blog was chock full of thoughtful, insightful, educational and highly informative right wing posts exposing the fallacies of the entire scientific community. Who has never contributed a damn thing to their lives.

Lott is just another repudiated, derided, neo-con loser who left office in disgrace. He is of no more consequence than DeLay, Frist, Craig, Stevens, Coleman, Dole, Allen and the many other Grade A losers who are now employed in the private sector, where they can drop the pretense of not working for their corporate money masters.

jt

July 19th, 2010
1:43 pm

As Mrs. Obama explains:

Forty percent of African American babies are never breastfed at all [in other words, 60% are], not even during the first weeks of their lives. And we know this isn’t possible or practical for some moms, but we’ve got a WIC program that’s providing new support to low-income moms who want to try so that they get the support they need.

USDA’s Food and Nutrition Service has set up a network of “lactation consultants” and “breastfeeding peer counselors,” which is a strange use of the word “peer,” since the counselors are paid $50,000-$60,000 a year, plus benefits, to be your peer. A job notice for a lactation consultant in Washington State notes:

This position is covered by an “Agency Shop” provision. Therefore as a condition of employment, the incumbent of this position must either join the union and pay union dues, or pay the union a representational or other fee within 30 days of the date you are placed into pay status.

Breastfeeding requires the assembly of two working parts: a mouth and a nipple.

Democrats need to build layers of bureaucracy and to spend billions of stolen money to encourage something humans know how to do instinctively.

Joe

July 19th, 2010
1:46 pm

No josef, I don’t have faith in the electorate.

We’re slowly but surely sliding toward 3rd world status because people are more concerned about their short-term tax rates than they are in making investments in things that actually grow the economy (and therefore, our incomes and the incomes of future generations). Teachers are being fired or furloughed, schools are closing, asphalt roads are being destroyed, our infrastructure is crumbling, our manufacturing base is being decimated, glaciers are melting and oceans are rising, consumer/worker/environmental protections aren’t being enforced, we have a negative trade balance, and the middle class is shrinking.

But hey, we have among the lowest tax rates in the industrialized world. So there’s that. Of course, that puts us on par with Somalia and other poor countries, but no worries. Right?

Mick

July 19th, 2010
1:47 pm

SPQR(laissez Faire)

I’m a great fan of logic over emotion also but I’m still very worried about square pants sponge bob, patrick and crusty the crab….

josef nix

July 19th, 2010
1:48 pm

joe
I agree with a lot of what you’re saying. But don’t forget, if you’re registered and if you vote, then the electorate is a “we” and not a “they” concept…

Doggone/GA

July 19th, 2010
1:51 pm

“if you’re registered and if you vote, then the electorate is a “we” and not a “they” concept…”

It doesn’t matter if you’re registered or not, and it doesn’t matter if you vote or not…it’s still “we”:

electorate: the body of persons entitled to vote in an election

harvey

July 19th, 2010
1:53 pm

Obama is giving $13 BILLION to Pakistan to try to buy its friendship. Maybe he ought to keep the money here. Pakistan isn’t going to be our friend for all the tea in china. Why we, when we are borrowing money to stay afloat, are giving it away to bottomless pits, is beyond my comprehension!

josef nix

July 19th, 2010
1:54 pm

doggone
I agree with that, but when you bring it up, folks don’t want to deal with the disenchanted and disinclined as a factor in society. They’re the ones who go marching off singing that their candidate won by “a landslide.” Less than 30% of the electorate does not a landslide make…

mike

July 19th, 2010
1:55 pm

Why is this relevant?

Doggone/GA

July 19th, 2010
1:55 pm

“Obama is giving $13 BILLION to Pakistan to try to buy its friendship”

got a link for that? The number I’ve seen and heard is 1.5 billion

Joe

July 19th, 2010
1:55 pm

I agree joseph. But I’m only one vote. I want to go back to the Clinton tax rates and reinvest in our economy. I appear to be outnumbered.

Doggone/GA

July 19th, 2010
1:57 pm

“Less than 30% of the electorate does not a landslide make…”

Quite right, but in the context of an actual election…neither does 52% of those who voted. And bottom-line, it’s the ones who actually vote who matter the most.

AmVet

July 19th, 2010
1:58 pm

PREPARE FOR THE WHIPLASH!

http://www.theracedepot.com/product28.htm

(Available in neo-commie red)

Obviously what this republic desperately needs is to keep more and more and more from voting. (J/K, doing my “conservative” imitation…)

josef nix

July 19th, 2010
1:58 pm

joe

I was pretty happy during the Clinton years myself.

Mick

July 19th, 2010
1:59 pm

Who will be more motivated to vote? Democrats outnumber republicans all over the map, who’s going to show up? Stay tuned..

josef nix

July 19th, 2010
2:01 pm

Doggone

i would disagree that they are the ones who matter the most…nobody is addressing that 48% who don’t vote and asking why, thus, they don’t have to be considered and the rest of us are left with that quadrennial choice between Twiddle-De-Dum and Twiddle-De-Dee…ignoring them does not make them go away…

RW-(the original)

July 19th, 2010
2:03 pm

A lobbyist worrying about elected officials that are tough to manage, eh. Whodda thunk it?

I suggest we send as many hard to manage office holders as possible.

Finn McCool

July 19th, 2010
2:04 pm

And bottom-line, it’s the ones who actually vote who matter the most.

umm, no. It’s the ones with the money who matter the most. Everyone else is just along for the ride.

@@

July 19th, 2010
2:07 pm

ShamVet rides again!

DeLay, Frist, Craig, Stevens, Coleman, Dole, Allen

The only way a disgraced Democrat leaves office is if they die, get indicted, or are convicted of a crime.

XYZ, dude.

Doggone/GA

July 19th, 2010
2:07 pm

“nobody is addressing that 48% who don’t vote and asking why”

But at the same time, you can’t force them to vote. Personally, I don’t think the problem is so much with the voters as with our voting system. We’ve discussed this before actually…I still think our “winner takes all” system is what drives such poor choices.

At the VERY least, I’d like to see ALL elections wtih a “none of the above” selection, and if no candidate gets a majority of the votes…the election starts all over again. But from a practical point of view, I don’t think that would work very well.

I liked, and still like, the system that some study group came up with…where you don’t vote for A candidate…you rank ALL the candidates in order of preference. Then the rankings are added up and the one with the lowest total wins – which sounds counterintuitive…but it isn’t, as under a ranking system the “better” rankings are the lower numbers.

RW-(the original)

July 19th, 2010
2:11 pm

I liked, and still like, the system that some study group came up with…where you don’t vote for A candidate…you rank ALL the candidates in order of preference. Then the rankings are added up and the one with the lowest total wins – which sounds counterintuitive…but it isn’t, as under a ranking system the “better” rankings are the lower numbers.

You really want to use that with an electorate that can’t handle a butterfly ballot or successfully punch a hole in a piece of paper?

josef nix

July 19th, 2010
2:13 pm

Doggone
I kind of like that ranking system myself. Wouldn’t be too hard for me tomorrow. Zeros straight down the line! Personally, though, the none of the above would at least make inroads into that 48% and it would, indeed, be interesting to see what the results would be…

Finn
The rest of us go along for the ride is pretty apt, but since we know money talks and bullsh*t walks, we probably won’t be invited for the ride, either…

@@

July 19th, 2010
2:13 pm

“nobody is addressing that 48% who don’t vote and asking why”

I’ve always suspected AmVet to be among the 48%.

TaxPayer

July 19th, 2010
2:13 pm

Y’all rightwing nuts are acting like you can’t hold your caffeine.

@@

July 19th, 2010
2:14 pm

Oh, and in answer to the “why”.

So he can complain, bitch, moan and groan.

josef nix

July 19th, 2010
2:14 pm

RW

“You really want to use that with an electorate that can’t handle a butterfly ballot or successfully punch a hole in a piece of paper?”

The thought crossed my mind, too. But to answer the question, yeah…

TaxPayer

July 19th, 2010
2:15 pm

I hear the GOP is lookin’ to get itself some de-caffeinated tea partiers. Something more their speed.

AmVet

July 19th, 2010
2:15 pm

But from a practical point of view, I don’t think that would work very well.

As you probably know, Doggone, I have advocated NOTA voting for a long while. Your point is valid in that it is possible, even likely, that with the abominable candidates we have in so many elections, that no race would ever get settled. maybe we’ll need some sort of tie-breaker like they have in sports!

Instant Runoff Voting.
Weekend and holiday voting.
Fair ballot access and fair debate access.
Clean money, clean elections/Public Financing

These would all be a good start.

(BTW, what’s that I feel on the back of my leg?)

@@

July 19th, 2010
2:18 pm

Come on, AmVet…a vote for Nader is a NO vote in more ways than one.

RW-(the original)

July 19th, 2010
2:19 pm

josef,

I’m afraid you’d see the voter turnout drop down to about 20%, but who knows. I do know if you look at the Republican sample ballot under Insurance Commissioner there are nine names. How many of the likely voters do you suppose know enough about them to make any kind of rational ranking?

Haywood Jablome

July 19th, 2010
2:22 pm

I hope Trent Lott wipes that mney quote of his chin before going on the record.

StJ

July 19th, 2010
2:23 pm

“I liked, and still like, the system that some study group came up with…where you don’t vote for A candidate…you rank ALL the candidates in order of preference. Then the rankings are added up and the one with the lowest total wins – which sounds counterintuitive…but it isn’t, as under a ranking system the “better” rankings are the lower numbers.”

We have enough problems differentiating between 1 and 0…can you imagine the electoral discombobulation (and resulting lawsuits) if we were to impose a ranking system?

Doggone/GA

July 19th, 2010
2:24 pm

“You really want to use that with an electorate that can’t handle a butterfly ballot or successfully punch a hole in a piece of paper?”

Yes

josef nix

July 19th, 2010
2:24 pm

RW
I’m not entirely opposed to the Costa Rican system that requires voting…you don’t have to vote FOR any of them, you just have to show up at the polls and have your cedula stamped…and you’re right on that Insurance Commissioner point…obviously a plum of some kind to bring out that many and, after all, it’s where we got the Drunken Indian candidate for governor… :-)

josef nix

July 19th, 2010
2:26 pm

StJ

“…can you imagine the electoral discombobulation (and resulting lawsuits) if we were to impose a ranking system?”

Yep, sure can, and it has its appeal.

TaxPayer

July 19th, 2010
2:26 pm

Georgia’s health plan in ICU
AJC exclusive: After budget cuts, $472M surplus whittled to $33M

Well, Alls they gots to do is cut taxes and that will generate more than enough extra revenues to make up for that shortfall. Just ask any tea partiers that puts their faith in folks like Limbaugh or Reagan or any Republican in between.

John Birch

July 19th, 2010
2:27 pm

Jay – How about a bolg with some real substance? You know something like the continued high body count in Afghanistan for absolutely nothing 18 months into the Obama administration.

Normal

July 19th, 2010
2:29 pm

Mick

July 19th, 2010
1:59 pm

I’m going to show up. I get to vote the republican ticket and like it.

I’ll vote to keep Ox and “Honest” Deal out mainly, and I was going to vote for Handel because I thought she was the only choice left for the above reason, but now…along comes Johnson…saying he’s a conservative first and a Republican second. Now that I like, even if it is a lie. I guess Jonnson gets my vote by default anyway. When Palin endorsed Handel, I just HAD to look twice. What with her sidestep on the Gay issue and now a Palin endorsement? Too much bull for me…

RW-(the original)

July 19th, 2010
2:30 pm

josef,

I’d be vehemently opposed to forcing everyone to show up at the polls. Mainly because once they were there they probably would vote.

On that insurance commish job there’s only one name on the Democrat ballot. Mary Squires. It seems like that woman runs for some office or another in every election.

Doggone/GA

July 19th, 2010
2:31 pm

“John Birch”

In case you failed to notice, this is Jay’s blog…not yours. If you want to control the blog subject…start your own blog.

Normal

July 19th, 2010
2:33 pm

They say voters are going to get vaccinated in Bartow County. I wonder how many will show up for that. Nothing like the thought of a needle to make me want to vote!

josef nix

July 19th, 2010
2:36 pm

RW
On the required voting…it’s really an eye-opener how many don’t vote for anyone, or maybe a candidate in this race, but not the other, etc. Of course, their system is no where near as party polarized as ours and it is a smaller, more homogenous and better educated society. (Incidentally, ranked 6th in the “happiest countries” rankings…right up there with the Netherlands and Scandanavia).

NORMAL
Handel? Like I said, sounds like a Fierce Advocate to me…they’ve all alienated me on that key issue in my line-up so, to h3ll with the lot…

Don't forget

July 19th, 2010
2:38 pm

@ SPQR

Gee, thanks for the “logic”. I don’t know what everyone’s so upset about. All those dead birds, turtles, fish and dolphins are probably just malingering! Whew, what a relief. I feel kind of silly now.

Of course it’s been shown that oil in concentrations as low as one part per BILLION is enough to kill fish eggs. Hmmmm. How does that fit into the stadium/beer can analogy?????

John Birch

July 19th, 2010
2:38 pm

Dog – I missed a post on the last topic so here’s an off topic just for you. It’s obvious that even before global warming the average June temperature was much higher than your IQ!!!

AmVet

July 19th, 2010
2:39 pm

On this day in 1922 George McGovern was born.

In November of 1972, at the tender age of 17, I voted for him. Even then I was smart enough not to vote for that repulsive criminal, Richard Nixon…

Doggone/GA

July 19th, 2010
2:41 pm

“It’s obvious that even before global warming the average June temperature was much higher than your IQ!!”

The sure sign of a loser: don’t discuss the subject, just attach your “opponent”

Doggone/GA

July 19th, 2010
2:41 pm

Ooops! “attach” should be ATTACK!

Normal

July 19th, 2010
2:42 pm

josef nix

July 19th, 2010
2:36 pm

Josef,
I certainly agree…which was why I was glad to see Johnson make some points up in the polls. I would have voted for her if I had to, but only because I really, really don’t want to see the Ox or Deal in office for anything except maybe janitor…

Normal

July 19th, 2010
2:47 pm

AmVet

July 19th, 2010
2:39 pm

AmVet, me too. I voted for Nixon the first time on his broken promise to end the war and I was at the Republican Convention in Miami with my other Viet Nam Veterans Against The War brothers. That vote was a no brainer for me. Too bad it didn’t mean anything that time.

That’s why it looks like I won’t vote for Obama again either…unless he hurries and gets our troops out of the Middle east.

josef nix

July 19th, 2010
2:48 pm

Normal

It’s all a moot point with me. If I ever voted for the Party of Diocletian of the Potomac, Granny’s gray ghost woul rise, and NONE of us want that! Not even flag boy Barnes…yellow dog Democrat though she was! :-)

RW-(the original)

July 19th, 2010
2:48 pm

I liked attach better. Just attach your opponent to a yardarm!

Midori

July 19th, 2010
2:49 pm

AmVet,

I truly think she has a thing for you.

she will NOT be ignored……

josef nix

July 19th, 2010
2:50 pm

RW. Doggone

Yeah, that’s the ticket!

AmVet

July 19th, 2010
2:50 pm

StJ, that is Instant Runoff Voting.

Instant runoff voting (IRV), also known as the Alternative Vote (AV), is a form of preferential voting (ranked choice voting). Under the IRV voting system voters rank candidates in order of preference, most commonly in single-winner elections. If no candidate is the first preference of a majority of voters, the candidate with the fewest number of first preference rankings is eliminated and that candidate’s ballots are redistributed at full value to the remaining candidates according to the next preference on each ballot. This process is repeated until one candidate obtains a majority of votes among the remaining candidates.

The term instant runoff is used because the method is said to simulate a series of runoff elections tallied in rounds, as in an exhaustive ballot election.[1] It achieves a similar effect to runoff voting without the time and expense of multiple voting rounds. The result can be found ‘instantly’ rather than after several separate votes often separated by weeks or months. IRV can also be considered a special case of single transferable vote (STV) when filling a single position.

Doggone/GA

July 19th, 2010
2:54 pm

“Just attach your opponent to a yardarm!”

Well, he’s gotta catch me first…and if his running abilities are as lame as his insults, I’m not in much danger of that.

AmVet

July 19th, 2010
2:55 pm

Normal, I’ve always admired your anti-war stance. You, in action and by word, are the man!

BTW, I just checked to confirm this, but the next time I go to a Braves game, etc, no more hand over the heart thing, I’m saluting Old Glory!

WASHINGTON — Veterans and active-duty military not in uniform can now render the military-style hand salute during the playing of the national anthem, thanks to changes in federal law that took effect this month.

“The military salute is a unique gesture of respect that marks those who have served in our nation’s armed forces,” said Secretary of Veterans Affairs Dr. James B. Peake. “This provision allows the application of that honor in all events involving our nation’s flag.”

The new provision improves upon a little known change in federal law last year that authorized veterans to render the military-style hand salute during the raising, lowering or passing of the flag, but it did not address salutes during the national anthem. Last year’s provision also applied to members of the armed forces while not in uniform.

SALUTE!

Doggone/GA

July 19th, 2010
2:59 pm

Ok, so maybe I have a warped sense of humor, but this from Media Matters for America is FUNNY!

“First, a quick review of the process by which manufactured right-wing outrage becomes headline news:

1. Right-wing bloggers, talk radio hosts, and other conservative media outlets start promoting and distorting the story.

2. Fox News picks up the story and gives it heavy, one-sided coverage.

3. Fox News and conservative media attack the “liberal media” for ignoring the distorted story.

4. Mainstream media outlets eventually cover the story, echoing the right-wing distortions.

5. Fox News receives credit for promoting the story.

6. The story is later proven to be false or wildly misleading, long after damage is done

Dave

July 19th, 2010
3:01 pm

From Wikipedia:

“On November 26, 2007, Lott announced that he would resign his Senate seat by the end of 2007.[11] According to CNN, his resignation was at least partly due to the Honest Leadership and Open Government Act, which forbids lawmakers from lobbying for two years after leaving office. Those who leave by the end of 2007 are covered by the previous law, which demands a wait of only one year.[12] In his resignation press conference, Lott said that the new law had no influence in his decision to resign.

Lott’s resignation became effective at 11:30 p.m. on December 18, 2007.[13] On January 7, 2008 it was announced that Lott and former Senator John Breaux of Louisiana, a Democrat, opened their lobbying firm about a block from the White House.[14]”

Just another example of how the ruling class only looks after the ruling class and wants to keep the status quo in Washington…while the rest of us get screwed.