Tea Party’s national spokesman proves NAACP correct after all

Earlier this week I wrote a post critical of the NAACP for a proposed resolution condemning the Tea Party movement as racially motivated and accusing it of wanting “to push our country back to the pre-civil rights era.”

As it turns out, NAACP leadership had similar qualms. Before putting it to a vote of their members, they moderated the resolution to state that “we take no issue with the Tea Party movement,” while urging it to “make clear there is no place for racism and anti-Semitism, homophobia and other forms of bigotry in their movement.”

Tea Party officials and supporters strongly condemned the resolution nonetheless.

“No, the Tea Party Movement is a beautiful movement, full of diverse people, diverse backgrounds,” Sarah Palin said on Fox News. “Folks of all walks of life who, for the most part, happen to oppose President Obama’s policies. Not the color of his skin. They don’t care that he’s half white or half black.”

Mark Williams, a national spokesman for the Tea Party Express, was even more blunt.

“You’re dealing with people who are professional race-baiters, who make a very good living off this kind of thing. They make more money off of race than any slave trader ever. It’s time groups like the NAACP went to the trash heap of history where they belong with all the other vile racist groups that emerged in our history,” he said.

Noting that the NAACP has the word “colored” in its name (a vestige of its founding in 1909) Williams then went on to post a satirical letter ostensibly written by NAACP President Benjamin Jealous to President Abraham Lincoln:

Dear Mr. Lincoln:

We Colored People have taken a vote and decided that we don’t cotton to that whole emancipation thing. Freedom means having to work for real, think for ourselves, and take consequences along with the rewards. That is just far too much to ask of us Colored People and we demand that it stop!

In fact we held a big meeting and took a vote in Kansas City this week. We voted to condemn a political revival of that old abolitionist spirit called the ‘tea party movement’.

The tea party position to “end the bailouts” for example is just silly. Bailouts are just big money welfare and isn’t that what we want all Coloreds to strive for? What kind of racist would want to end big money welfare? What they need to do is start handing the bail outs directly to us coloreds! Of course, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People is the only responsible party that should be granted the right to disperse the funds.

And the ridiculous idea of “reduce[ing] the size and intrusiveness of government.” What kind of massa would ever not want to control my life? As Coloreds we must have somebody care for us otherwise we would be on our own, have to think for ourselves and make decisions!

The racist tea parties also demand that the government “stop the out of control spending.” Again, they directly target Colored People. That means we Colored People would have to compete for jobs like everybody else and that is just not right.

Perhaps the most racist point of all in the tea parties is their demand that government “stop raising our taxes.” That is outrageous! How will we Colored People ever get a wide screen TV in every room if non-coloreds get to keep what they earn? Totally racist! The tea party expects coloreds to be productive members of society?

Mr. Lincoln, you were the greatest racist ever. We had a great gig. Three squares, room and board, all our decisions made by the massa in the house. Please repeal the 13th and 14th Amendments and let us get back to where we belong.

Sincerely

Precious Ben Jealous,
Tom’s Nephew
National Association for the Advancement of Colored People Head Colored Person

Williams has since pulled that letter, but the sentiments behind it are clear. In fact, I would say the debate is now over and that Williams has quite convincingly proved the NAACP correct: There are indeed racist elements in the Tea Party movement, in fact among its national leadership. The Tea Party and its defenders, including Palin and others, can now sit silent or they can take action by removing Williams from his role and condemning his statements.

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Southern Comfort

July 17th, 2010
12:02 pm

Jay

In all fairness, he did pull that letter afterall. People like him should study history before they put their foot in their mouth. There were whites involved in the founding of the NAACP, and the intent of their resolution was to ask Tea Party leaders to speak out against the element of their group that appears racist. The NAACP could show them how to do it by doing the same against blacks who appear racist.

I saw an interview on CNN where a few from each side agreed to meet to try to open a dialogue on the situation. It would do a great deal for both sides to sit down and talk rationally. The Tea Party might stop long enough to notice that there are Blacks who agree with them but just don’t attend rallies because of that fringe element.

Jay

July 17th, 2010
12:05 pm

Yeah SoCo, I was just about to add that about pulling down his post, and have now done so. I don’t think it changes anything — his sentiments are clear.

Southern Comfort

July 17th, 2010
12:12 pm

I think it shows contrition after the fact. If one can be contrite after putting their foot in their mouth. He did a great disservice to those that he’s supposed to be a leader of. If I were a leader of a group that was reported to have a racist element, the last thing I’d want to do is post some bs like he did, even if I meant it to be satirical.

SPQR(laissez Faire)

July 17th, 2010
12:15 pm

How is that racist in the SLIGHTEST..the NAACP are race pimps..the naacp only exists as a cushy job given to ex black lawmakers, usually after an ethics violation cuases them to step down from ofice.

In this country, mocking a minority is viewed too often as racism. In fact, it’s just mocking the behavior, not the guys color.

Don't forget

July 17th, 2010
12:18 pm

It gets worse. Google “Billy Roper” the write in tea party candidate for the Arkansas governor election. He’s an unabashed white supremacist. The tea party may not be able to control him but they sure could condemn him. So far, I haven’t heard anything about him from the tea party. Why would they let this stand?

ty webb

July 17th, 2010
12:22 pm

it gets worse. Google “Robert Byrd”….and around and around we go.

John

July 17th, 2010
12:24 pm

How many of us have written a letter or an email, expressing how we REALLY felt. Then, sometime after sending, we realize the possible consequences. This is exactly Williams has done, just like so many other right wingers. They realize that their positions won’t be tolerated by the mainstream, so they feel compelled to cover them up.

SPQR(laissez Faire)

July 17th, 2010
12:27 pm

i bet in a nationwide poll of registered voters, the naacp would score very low in credibility and approval..so that would BE the mainstream, friend-o

Dusty

July 17th, 2010
12:27 pm

Jay, 12:05

Your sentiments are also clear.

The Partiers and the NAACP are working things out. Neither is perfect. You had to go back and ADD the lines you you did not mention, the ones that suggested an understanding had been reached.

SoCo sounds sensible while you, Bookman, sound like a propaganda popup.

You saw a few lines from Palin and jumped right in. Tried to pour a little kerosene on the conservative Tea Partiers who want Americans to wake up and think and the NAACP who try to fill their role of discrimination fighters.

Maybe you should stick to pure journalism instead of political potshot propaganda, Bookman. It would give you credibility that you don’t have… .

AmVet

July 17th, 2010
12:28 pm

I have a friend who is very involved in the Georgia Tea Party. And he is highly bigoted. Lots of references with the N word. And no, he is not a southern bred bigot, he hails from Michigan.

My point is that if anybody thinks he is not reflective of a sizable element in that group, they are willfully ignorant.

Check out the photo of that Ga. Teapublican crowd – not one single black, brown or yellow face. Must just be a Cobb County coincidence…

http://www.11alive.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=146794&catid=3

SPQR(laissez Faire)

July 17th, 2010
12:28 pm

Might I add, just as DISAPPROVAL and DISTRUST of hugo lula tarballs Hussein obama, is MAINSTREAM..check the polls.

theyeshaveit

July 17th, 2010
12:30 pm

SPQR,

Jay was wrong about the NAACP last week and right about them this week. And you, SPQR, are further evidence that racism is alive and prospering in America, not just in the Tea Party fringes, but right here in River City. Thanks for the contributions to bigotry and ignorance. We really needed the proof you provided.

stands for decibels

July 17th, 2010
12:30 pm

Tea Party officials and supporters strongly condemned the resolution nonetheless.

Well Jay, you see, these people? They’re a-holes.

theyeshaveit

July 17th, 2010
12:35 pm

John,

Oh, I am sure that he feels he made an error in judgment, The man has pulled his letter, but can you tell me that the letter did not represent his feelings? Did he say something like, “I am sorry. That was irresponsible. My racist comments were repugnant and offensive.”? No, he didn’t.

TaxPayer

July 17th, 2010
12:36 pm

Wow! Is Robert Byrd running for office… Again!

Paul

July 17th, 2010
12:36 pm

Never, ever try to do parody or satire on the subject of race. Thing is here, though, it appears to me it wasn’t just parody or satire.

Great chance for TPers to do what they’ve asked NAACP to do and police themselves by not just firing this guy but taking him off their membership.

And…. if the NAACP was unable to fire up the masses to go to the polls based on “the racists are coming!’ the TPers may have done it for them.

Democrats are blessed, I tell ya. Harry Reid’s opponent and now this…. they are well and truly blessed -

theyeshaveit

July 17th, 2010
12:41 pm

SPQR,

What is this nonsense about polls? Can you not focus on the real issue here? Racism is, plain and simple, morally wrong. There are, undeniably elements among the Tea Party crowd who are indeed racist. That is wrong. The NAACP is a civil rights group. It should be no surprise to anyone that it would speak out against this disgusting disease called racism. All you want to do is avoid the truth, because, as I mentioned before, you are motivated by the same things the Tea Party’s fringe elements hold so dear – hate.

stands for decibels

July 17th, 2010
12:42 pm

if the NAACP was unable to fire up the masses to go to the polls based on “the racists are coming!’ the TPers may have done it for them.

a-yep.

deegee

July 17th, 2010
12:42 pm

The sad part of the story is that the Tea Party people that defend Mark Williams honestly don’t understand how bigoted that letter to Lincoln truly is. I doubt that anyone associated with that azzhole even cares if it is bigoted, but even if they did, they wouldn’t know what he wrote in that letter that could be offensive to anyone.

Dusty

July 17th, 2010
12:43 pm

Well, AMVET has a friend who is a bigot AND a Tea Party supporter. That definitely proves it! One bigot (firned of AmVet) in a group and that is the ID of the whole group. Yep, one mad crowd!! He proved it!!!!!

I guess AmVet is a BIGOT too because he has a friend who is a BIGOT!! If you’ve seen one, you’ve seen ”em ALL! And AmVet is from Kansas! Who’d a thought it???

Matti

July 17th, 2010
12:44 pm

It’s no surprise that Mr. Williams would denounce the accusation of racism in one breath and then lash out sarcastically with his true feelings immediately afterward. The amateur psychology here is that Mr. Williams defends his right, as an American, to have and express his opinions about the world as he sees it. How sad (but not surprising) that the Tea Whackers can’t find a spokesperson who is able to exercise the self-control required of that position. Now we have no choice but to believe that the “movement” is dominated by racists, despite the presence of members who are merely driven by their selfish desire to benefit from living in the greatest country on earth without the paying taxes that make it possible.

AmVet: And no, he is not a southern bred bigot, he hails from Michigan. Is your friend Congressman Tom Price? Just curious, because he spends more time in Tea-Tard activities than doing the job for which he receives a paycheck and life-long benefits.

stands for decibels

July 17th, 2010
12:44 pm

What is this nonsense about polls?

Well, when you find polls that support your thesis, you hype them. When you don’t, you say “who cares about polls?”

Me? I laugh at the notion that there’s something especially odd or historically anomalous about Obama’s current polling; it’s around where both Reagan and Clinton were at this point in their first terms (Reagan a bit lower, Clinton a bit higher). None of those guys were actually campaigning for President, they were all trying to get something done, and that process can be messy and even unpopular when the opposition is pulling out the stops to demonize it.

Don't forget

July 17th, 2010
12:45 pm

Robert Byrd repudiated his rascist past just like Strom Thurmond. There is a difference between a position held 40 years ago and long since reversed and one held 40 hours ago. Are you really saying you can’t see the difference?

theyeshaveit

July 17th, 2010
12:47 pm

deegee,

I had to do jury duty this week. The judge explained the concept of “willful blindness” to us. I believe the verdict on Mark Williams should be clear; he is a racist. As for others in the Tea Party, as you have indicated, some (like SPQR, for example, just do not get it), others kow full well and could not care less that Williams is a racist, and then there are those who are willfully blind.

deegee

July 17th, 2010
12:48 pm

Should anyone be surprised????

White supremacist Billy Roper a Tea Party organizer in Arkansas

Billy Roper, who heads the white supremacist White Revolution group, based in Arkansas, is listed as an organizer on a Tea Party movement Web site. In a June 2009 post to the White Revolution blog, Roper claimed to be organizing a Tea Party in Arkansas and sending White Revolution “representatives who will be witnessing and converting lost souls at Tea Parties from North Carolina to Arizona.”

A May blog post revealed that White Revolution members will attend local Tea Party protests and distribute leaflets and flyers. Their goal will be to “educate, activate, and recruit.” The blog post encouraged readers to “plan to attend one to do your part for our race and nation!”

Southern Comfort

July 17th, 2010
12:48 pm

How is that racist in the SLIGHTEST..the NAACP are race pimps..the naacp only exists as a cushy job given to ex black lawmakers, usually after an ethics violation cuases them to step down from ofice.

If you actually knew anything about the NAACP, you’d know that most officials are aunts, uncles, mothers, and/or fathers in the community. The overwhelming majority are not elected officials nor have they been in public office. The fact that Mr Williams chose to respond to to allegations of racism by using a race baiting tactic himself kinda gives the allegations a little bit of evidence as being truthful. He could have chosen to respond in a dignified, logical matter, but he didn’t.

stands for decibels

July 17th, 2010
12:50 pm

I finally forced myself to read that letter.

Jeez Louise. You don’t walk something like that back. You f–king resign in disgrace and go hole up cleaning toilets in a third-world AIDS clinic somewhere afterward as penance.

theyeshaveit

July 17th, 2010
12:50 pm

Dusty,

Can you spell syllogism? Learn some logic, please. AmVet is not guilty by any association anymore than you would be communist if we caught you with a Havana cigar.

Here is the issue: There is evidence that there are elements within the Tea Party that are racist. Do you deny this? If so, why? If you do not deny it, then why do you protest so loudly here?

theyeshaveit

July 17th, 2010
12:53 pm

sfd,

I think that you get that I got that SPQR was just trying to do an end around on the topic.

AmVet

July 17th, 2010
12:55 pm

Dusty how about you discuss the issues for once in your pathetic blogging life and not the people here?

Besides quit trying to jump the line to be my personal leg humper. Take a number, there are at least a couple of your pals ahead of you.

Matti, Tom Price is a joke. A very unfunny one. During one of his phone-athons one of his constituents asked him why there is such an accomplishment-free gridlock in Congress. His brilliant saner? The leadership is responsible! Though he failed to mention that he is too cowardly to stand up to said leadership…

stands for decibels

July 17th, 2010
12:55 pm

Here is the issue: There is evidence that there are elements within the Tea Party that are racist.

Moreover, that the Tea Party leadership, including the likes of Sarah Palin, is utterly unconcerned about it, at best.

That’s the issue. And all we’ve heard in response from these a-holes is denial, denial, denial.

Dusty

July 17th, 2010
12:57 pm

Yes, PAUL, the Democrats are truly blessed. The fact that they are perfect and have never ever used “hate” in any way makes their halo shine.

Ffor some reason, the glare almost makes me miss their perfection. But it must be there….I’ll ask Bush. He will have a lot of material to help me see the true purity of Democrats.

stands for decibels

July 17th, 2010
12:57 pm

I think that you get that I got that

I get that you got that I get you. yup.

Off to cleanse myself with some PBS programming on the TeeVee. Might be back when it don’t stink so bad in here.

AmVet

July 17th, 2010
12:57 pm

His brilliant saner???

That should read brilliant answer! (LOL at myself!)

theyeshaveit

July 17th, 2010
12:57 pm

sfd,

Yes, I had to force myself to read that letter, too, albeit I caught parts of it last night on CNN. The words reflect the soul (such as it may be) of the man, just as, linguists will tell you, language reflects a people’s culture and mores.

stands for decibels

July 17th, 2010
12:58 pm

the Democrats are truly blessed. The fact that they are perfect

yep, that’s just the sort of thing our Paul would assert.

ok, really gone now…

SPQR(laissez Faire)

July 17th, 2010
1:02 pm

@theeyeshaveit..

Ok so I am racist in liberal eyes…I can live with that.

Not that you can point to ANYTHING I said that is racist..but that never stops the left.

SPQR(laissez Faire)

July 17th, 2010
1:04 pm

Sure, I HATE obama I also HATE all white leftists

Yet I like Walter Williams, justice Thomas and Herman Cain

I don’t see a race pattern there, I see an ideological one.

That being said, I could care less what others think of me, because other people don’t really matter to me, but I like people to be ACCURATE. Misanthrope? yes classist? yes Anti Islam? yes Racist? I don’t see it.

Matti

July 17th, 2010
1:05 pm

AmVet,

I got stuck on one of those phone-a-thons once. Once you answer, you can’t disconnect until it’s over. You can hang up for ten minutes, pick up the receiver, and you’re still listenting to the nonsense. I have to say I was downright disturbed by the level of delusion carried by my good neighbors, and their passion thereof. TP rarely answers a question directly; he just searches for the correct topical talking point with which to respond the moment the questioner finishes. I don’t understand why they don’t call him out on that (or the fact that he accomplishes nothing related to the terms of his actual job description.) But they’re just happy to hear him say, “Obamacare is BAD! Oh, NO, the Socialists are coming!” That’s all the intellectual stimulation they seem to need. Sad.

theyeshaveit

July 17th, 2010
1:05 pm

Dusty,

Do you not have answers to my questions. They were so difficult that I thought that I would stump you. Can you construct a plausible response (without attacking a person or a group of people here)?

Matti

July 17th, 2010
1:05 pm

SPQR,

Bless your heart.

Dusty

July 17th, 2010
1:07 pm

Ah dear AmVet, back to your favorite term which I won’t repeat. Do you live with dogs? You seem to like mentioning their behavior.

You commented on bigots and I did too and that is what Jay was talking about. So who is off subject?

Poor little thing. Can’t take a bit of disagreement, can you? Then why do you dish it out all the time? You know what Truman said, don’t cha? Well, stay out of the hot kitchen, honey, and stick to your knitting.

Southern Comfort

July 17th, 2010
1:09 pm

I think I’m gonna sit the rest of this one out. It appears this is another topic on race that will devolve into childlike namecalling and other crap.

Wake me when there’s a serious discussion started.

theyeshaveit

July 17th, 2010
1:09 pm

SPQR said How is that racist in the SLIGHTEST..the NAACP are race pimps..the naacp only exists as a cushy job given to ex black lawmakers, usually after an ethics violation cuases them to step down from ofice.

There you go. This is just one case of your racism. You know that there are others. Racism is a moral disease, and it is not merely the perception of one group of people as you would like us to believe. The sun will come up in the morning whether you see it or not.

popeye

July 17th, 2010
1:13 pm

Eyes…

“Can you spell syllogism? Learn some logic, please. AmVet is not guilty by any association anymore than you would be communist if we caught you with a Havana cigar.”

I think if you check out her sceptic tank you’ll probably find a few of those babies floating aroung!

Dusty

Oh, and just for you…your sainted George W. being called an idiot by non-other than a republican.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccQC8LS1Ryg

SPQR(laissez Faire)

July 17th, 2010
1:16 pm

@theeyeshaveit…

I see, so because I believe the naacp is a useless organization whos time has passed, headed (at least at the national level) by ex black lawmakers..Julian bond and Frizzell Gerald Gray for example), who runs around seeing the kkk behind every black on welfare, or every hatred of obama, makes me somehow have an inherant belief that one race is superior to all other? Because THAT is the definition of racism..not impuning a black eprosn or mocking a black person or even telling ethnic jokes.

TaxPayer

July 17th, 2010
1:17 pm

Tea Partiers — A non-racist group that condones racism. What gave it away. I thought they were doing such a fine job of concealing it early on when they had that one dark-skinned person with a gun at one of those rallies during the healthcare debates or something like that. Probably just a hired hand, huh.

Mama Says

July 17th, 2010
1:17 pm

You guys kill me, Jay first of all instead of giving us your politically correct shocked amazement can you do some research and tell us just how much money the federal government does give the NAACP ? I mean in grants and indirect scholarships and other financial tools, please.

Secondly, the fact that someone mockingly responds to a person (or group) using a tone or theme which is consistent of the accusation made is in itself called sarcasm.

Had this response or theses words been written by a comedian or a person in the press you would gladly dismiss them as artistic expression and satire.

The facts are unchanged, it was the NAACP, a group of people who have unfeathered access and support of and to the national democratic party and currently the White House, who called the Tea Party a racist group. It was the NAACP who decided to condemn a movement of free speech and association (which they politically do not agree with) all while demanding that right as a factual part of their history. They called the Tea Party a group infested with racist. It is the FACT THAT although being a civil rights movement initially, the NAACP HAS become a political tool from which the true and time tested accusation of being a racist is made, increasingly just to shut down the Democrats opponents. It is the NAACP who itself has come to define the very definition of hypocrite, for they have willingly turned a blind eye to the plight of the inter city black youth and adults while they sit at their white tie dinners deciding who to denounce ( I am sure the poor black mother and her child see benefit from this resolution and the extravagant dinner that it was presented at) . And it is the NAACP who have completely ignored the beating of a black Tea Party member at the hands of the very politically minded people they defend, without so much as one word of condemnation.

and finally, although I know I will instantly be called a racist, it is the NAACP leadership who IS making money hand over foot, as is said, off the backs of blacks today. The personal wealth of every leader involved in the civil rights movement is well over 99% of any of us “regular” people today-black or white. The NAACP is to race relations what democrats say Republicans are to oil companies–profiteers, people who exploit a product for the sake of monetary gain—The NAACP does sell race relations ! When Republicans do it they are greedy yet when The NAACP pushes their agenda it’s just a watchdog group who by definition is allowed to slander people without facts or at the very worst even if they know the true facts. Like my mama says ” it takes one to know one”.

So maybe the NAACP should stop the resolutions and political fund raisers and actually help the people they claim to represent–then they may prove credible once again.

The time is coming when the garbage they spew will be seen by the majority, black and white, for what it is. It does not matter what it was or why it was founded it has become a group of rich black people who have found monetary comfort in their willingness to profit off the very worst thing in our nations history——slavery and racism. Therefore they ARE no better then the proverbial plantation owner !

If they look within themselves they will see exactly what they pretend to hate, which is a group of people who have a political agenda which will make them powerful and rich, all so they can impose their view points on the rest of us. a GROUP of people who live by threat and intimidation in order to influence political races and a group of people who, like the Klan, demand the exclusion of people simply for their (NAACP’s) perception of what they are.

They have become what the initially hated

Mama also always told me to clean my own house before I got upset over the dirt on the neighbors floor.

bye now

Dusty

July 17th, 2010
1:17 pm

theyeshaveit,

I have already answered your slanted questions. I have already said what I thought of this blog subject. If you can’t read what has already been said, don’t blame me. This “problem” has already been discussed by those involved and adjustments made..

If you want to continue to dwell on bigotry, you need to investigate many many subjects. Jay picked this one because it might reflect on Republicans. That is his job. He does not see any bigotry by Democrats. Obviously you don’t either because you are too busy lookiing for it elsewhere.

Now, if you can’t see that you live in the greatest country in the world which is a lovely mixed crowd and stop nitpicking every little incident to please your self righteous ego, keep at it. Or find some place you like better.

jt

July 17th, 2010
1:20 pm

Like most of the Federal government,

the race card is becoming more and more irrelevant.

GET THEE BEHIND ME. And all the other little centralized authority toadies. I hear North Korea is hiring.

AmVet

July 17th, 2010
1:22 pm

“I think I’m gonna sit the rest of this one out. It appears this is another topic on race that will devolve into childlike namecalling and other crap.

Wake me when there’s a serious discussion started.”

Me three, bro.

Dusty has courageously told me off and I’ll leave it to her and her fellow children to bravely soldier on in their ongoing efforts to unprovokedly and personally insult everyone here who dares disagree with them.

Over and out…

Paul

July 17th, 2010
1:23 pm

Good Saturday afternoon, Dusty!

“Yes, PAUL, the Democrats are truly blessed. The fact that they are perfect and have never ever used “hate” in any way makes their halo shine”

Actually, I was doing a little play on the ‘God’s on our side’ political view. See, Dems are the unGod party. So when they’ve down lower than Job and appear doomed come November, Providence blesses them with miracles!!! In the form of Republicans, even! Kinda ironic, huh?

don’t forget 12:45

“Robert Byrd repudiated his rascist past just like Strom Thurmond. There is a difference between a position held 40 years ago and long since reversed and one held 40 hours ago. Are you really saying you can’t see the difference?”

Try making the argument from the repentance – penance – new understanding – forgiveness angle…. I think the people who harp on Sen Byrd’s mistakes are supposed to understand that language.

sfd

“I finally forced myself to read that letter.”

I couldn’t finish it…. it’s the old ‘once you let something in your mind, it’s always there…”

Back outside -

Fred

July 17th, 2010
1:32 pm

Wow. Am I the only one who thought Sarah Palin’s comment was a bit racist as well? And I HATE that over used word.

“They don’t care that he’s half white or half black.”

Why didn’t she just stop after:

“Folks of all walks of life who, for the most part, happen to oppose President Obama’s policies. Not the color of his skin.”

Why does the President have to be “half” anything? He’s ALL American.

That letter is insulting to me and I’m white. I’m not a fan of the NAACP either, but just damn.

I’ve been saying for years that I don’t care for many of the positions the Democrats take, but the Republicans are just too stupid to vote for. One again, the Republicans prove me right. It’s a shame though that the Democrats lean so far towards socialism. I could almost get on board with them except for that………….

I guess I’m a kind of TRUE libertarian, not this watered down version that is popular now. I’m socially liberal but fiscally conservative and want Gov’t to be out of my life more than it’s in my life. I laugh every time I think of Bob Barr running as a “libertarian.” That IS the same Bob Barr that tried to get that stupid radio show on 96Rock, Love phones banned from the airwaves is it not? THAT’S a real libertarian position lolololol.

Southern Comfort

July 17th, 2010
1:33 pm

Would those of you who know all about what the NAACP is all about, please post proof of your membership? Otherwise, go volunteer with them before trying to pass judgement. The best way to know what some organization is all about is to spend time with them and not to judge by other people’s assessments.

OgreOgre

July 17th, 2010
1:36 pm

The leader of the TP section of GOP is both racist and stupid. It’s Comedy Gold that his response was to claim that the TPers weren’t racist and then go and post a semi-racist letter on the internet. That’s not at all meant to imply that all conservatives are racist, but they are awful tolerant of it in their leadership.

SPQR(laissez Faire)

July 17th, 2010
1:40 pm

SoCo, could I see your teaparty membership card? Jay’s too, for that matter..

Fred

July 17th, 2010
1:44 pm

No SPQR, you CAN’T see their TP membership cards. They are do as I say, not do as I do. They are blind to their own hypocrisy. They will claim with straight faces that the recent Atlanta Mayoral race was NOT based on black racism to lol.

theyeshaveit

July 17th, 2010
1:47 pm

Dusty,

No, you have not answered my questions. They were quite simple, straight question to which you avoided giving a straight answer. Your only answer was, “I answered”. OK, Dusty, OK.

SPQR, again you are missing the point. Whether that is conscious or not, only you know. But you have missed the point. There are racist elements within the Tea Party movement. If the NAACP did not exist, that racism would not go away. That racism is evident and inherent to elements of the Tea Party. Do you not think that the leaders of the Tea Party should call their own out on this? Let’s say that you are standing next to a man who says something racist and disgusting about the president, would you speak up?

Brett

July 17th, 2010
1:50 pm

Bound to anger your KKK/NRA/NASCAR bloggers!! Shucks. Better lay in sum xtra ammo.

@@

July 17th, 2010
1:51 pm

jay, since, to my knowledge there is no Nationally registered Tea Party Party, I’d like to know who designated Mr. Williams as their spokesman?

He’s a broken spoke in a big wheel that’s gonna keep on turnin’ in spite of it all–the ALL encompassing government.

Did you know that Neil Armstrong planted an American flag on Mars. I was shocked…SHOCKED to make “that discovery”.

Moooooooonbats in spaaaaaace.

SPQR(laissez Faire)

July 17th, 2010
1:53 pm

Yeah its the old “only whitey can be racist cause whitey got all the power” their tune hasn’t changed, even with a black guy in the white house.

I am pretty damn sure I hate hugo lula obama’s white half every bit as much as his black half…he is like the fastfood value menu of politics..a little something to try to pander to everyone, but it all sucks.

Fred

July 17th, 2010
1:53 pm

theeyeshaveit: There are racist elements in the NAACP. What’s your point? I don’t see you condemning them.

“Let’s say that you are standing next to a man who says something racist and disgusting about the president, would you speak up?

Make up your mind, did the guy say something disgusting or something racist? While I think you will agree with me that anything racist is disgusting, I don’t think that everything disgusting is racist. SO by saying “racist and disgusting” were you offering a choice or being redundant?

Will you agree that black people can be racists too?

theyeshaveit

July 17th, 2010
1:54 pm

@@, well at least you admitted that Williams is a “broken spoke”. But I would say that he is a big spoke in a little wheel on the Tea Party bandwagon.

@@

July 17th, 2010
1:56 pm

I have a dear friend/neighbor who is very involved in the Georgia Tea Party, and he is VERY black. I’ve never asked, but I’m pretty sure he was born in Georgia.

AmVet:

I thought you were dealing with customers at home. Amway or Avon?

SPQR(laissez Faire)

July 17th, 2010
1:57 pm

@theeyeshaveit…

Honestly..probably not, because I hate obama, and my attitude in life is “the enemy of my enemy is my situational ally” but I would tell the person standing next to me try saying “marxist b*stard ” instead of something racial, it plays better on tv to the great unwashed.

RW-(the original)

July 17th, 2010
1:59 pm

B J of Atlanta

July 17th, 2010
2:00 pm

The revelation of this “SUPPOSED” writing of slaves is so ridiculous! Afterall, this is 2010. If someone or persons made those remarks, with slave owners/kkk (modern day kkk dressed in three pieces)- by now wouldn’t u think they’re mind set have changed? Williams is as ignorant as some of the tea party group/Sarah Palin! I didn’t see such an uproar like this when Jimmy Carter/old man Bush/Cheney/Bush were running the country. I wonder what’s different now?

theyeshaveit

July 17th, 2010
2:01 pm

Fred,

You are playing ignorant. I say “playing”, because I do not believe t hat you are. “Mary and John are getting married” is ambiguous in that it can be either inclusive or exclusive, but my phrase “racist and disgusting” is non-ambiguous. Racism is inherently disgusting. Now then, with that out of the way, can you answer the question? If you were at at Tea Party gathering and the man next to you uttered something that was at once racist AND disgusting would you speak up?

Accountability is the issue here. If I had founded XYZ Organization and one of mine made racist comments, I would fire him. Wouldn’t you?

SPQR(laissez Faire)

July 17th, 2010
2:01 pm

I was the one at the Teaparty rally , when they spoke of protecting the medicare and SS programs, kept trying to lead the chant of “Kill them , too! Kill them, too”

So I guess that means were not monolithic

Hootinanny Yum Yum

July 17th, 2010
2:04 pm

I’m sorry, the NAACP, SCLC, Congressional Black Caucus, Miss Black America, BET Awards, etc, etc, are organizations that promote their own form of bigotry and racism. Delude yourself, but they are. Plain and simple.

How about the fact that by 2014, your doctor has to provide your weight and BMI to the feds? Cool, huh. What will this administration do next?

theyeshaveit

July 17th, 2010
2:04 pm

SPQR(laissez Faire) responded theyeshaveit…

Honestly..probably not, because I hate obama, and my attitude in life is “the enemy of my enemy is my situational ally” but I would tell the person standing next to me try saying “marxist b*stard ” instead of something racial, it plays better on tv to the great unwashed.

Well, SPQR, thanks for the response. You certainly did much to clean up your image.

Fred

July 17th, 2010
2:07 pm

“If I had founded XYZ Organization and one of mine made racist comments, I would fire him. Wouldn’t you?”

Of course. I have, it happened, and I did.

“If you were at at Tea Party gathering and the man next to you uttered something that was at once racist AND disgusting would you speak up?”

I can’t answer that. I can’t envision a circumstance that would find me at a tea party gathering.

I have answered your questions, could you extend to me the same courtesy and answer mine?

SPQR(laissez Faire)

July 17th, 2010
2:10 pm

My image doesn’t need cleaning..I like me, my fiance’ likes me, and most importantly, I have a 800+ FICO score, which is damn rare for self employeed in 2010.

theyeshaveit

July 17th, 2010
2:12 pm

Hootinanny Yum Yum said

I’m sorry, the NAACP, SCLC, Congressional Black Caucus, Miss Black America, BET Awards, etc, etc, are organizations that promote their own form of bigotry and racism. Delude yourself, but they are. Plain and simple.

Plain and simple, you say. Well then, evidence please.

theyeshaveit

July 17th, 2010
2:13 pm

Fred,

Thanks for your responses. As to your questions, fire away.

Joe

July 17th, 2010
2:15 pm

Sarah Palin: “Folks of all walks of life who, for the most part, happen to oppose President Obama’s policies. Not the color of his skin. They don’t care that he’s half white or half black.

Palin could have stopped after the second sentence. The last sentence was, in fact, race baiting. Subtle? Yes. But deliberate race baiting.

theyeshaveit

July 17th, 2010
2:16 pm

SPQR, well see, you have a fiance. You are not quite the misanthrope that you would have us believe. ;-)

Fred

July 17th, 2010
2:18 pm

I already asked them in my earlier post, but copy paste them again. (Well the first one wasn’t really a question, it was more like what current reporters call a question lol, a statement searching for a response):

“There are racist elements in the NAACP. What’s your point? I don’t see you condemning them.”

“Will you agree that black people can be racists too?”

Southern Comfort

July 17th, 2010
2:19 pm

SPQR

If I had a “need to join to belong” mentality, I’d produce one for you. I’m pure independent. I’m just amazed at how people know so much about these organizations, NAACP, Tea Party, etc. without as much as attending one function. Bias and prejudice are hardly good things to use to form a good opinion about a group.

Southern Comfort

July 17th, 2010
2:20 pm

I’m sorry, the NAACP, SCLC, Congressional Black Caucus, Miss Black America, BET Awards, etc, etc, are organizations that promote their own form of bigotry and racism. Delude yourself, but they are. Plain and simple.

Those organizations are for the most part due to the free market principle. If Miss America, cable tv, etc. provide programs for the Black market, those individual things would not be needed or wanted.

theyeshaveit

July 17th, 2010
2:21 pm

Fred,

I scrolled back. I am about to dine with my wife, but here are two quick answers.

NAACP, I cannot see through the souls of their membership and tell you whether there are racist elements; however, there is no evidence that NAACP are racist.

And, yes, a big “of course” on whether anyone, any race has the potential to be racist. In fact, it may be a human propensity that can only be subdued by education. I do recall that my psychology professor in college called racism a disease.

Fred

July 17th, 2010
2:21 pm

Joe

July 17th, 2010
2:15 pm

“Palin could have stopped after the second sentence. The last sentence was, in fact, race baiting. Subtle? Yes. But deliberate race baiting.”

LOL Joe. I already brought that point up in this blog, but no one responded to it. I even said the same thing as you, that she could/should have stopped after the second sentence. Since no one responded to me, I’ll respond to you. I agree 1000 percent.

Fred

July 17th, 2010
2:22 pm

Thanks “eyes”, enjoy the meal.

[...] NOTE:  The above blog post based on remarks on the blog of the Atlanta Journal Constitution by Jay Bookman. [...]

Joe

July 17th, 2010
2:27 pm

Sorry I missed it Fred. Great minds and all that.

Jay wrote, “The Tea Party and its defenders, including Palin and others, can now sit silent or they can take action by removing Williams from his role and condemning his statements.” Actually, to help remove the stench of racism, the Tea Party movement and its defenders should take action and disassociate themselves with Sarah Palin.

Southern Comfort

July 17th, 2010
2:30 pm

Actually, to help remove the stench of racism, the Tea Party movement and its defenders should take action and disassociate themselves with Sarah Palin.

I don’t think Sarah Palin is racist. That’s not a good characterization of her. I don’t recall her saying anything that would lead me to believe she’s racist.

Joe

July 17th, 2010
2:36 pm

I don’t recall [Palin] saying anything that would lead me to believe she’s racist.

Palin, or her ghost writers, are well aware of the effect of her superfluous “half white/half black” comment.

Jack

July 17th, 2010
2:38 pm

Everyone that Palin endorses gets elected. Changes are coming in November & that scares the hell out of liberals.

Joe

July 17th, 2010
2:43 pm

Palin frequently doesn’t endorse until just before the election and after she sees who is ahead in the polls.

For example: http://iowaindependent.com/35665/sarah-palin-endorses-branstad

Joe

July 17th, 2010
2:46 pm

I endorse Roy Barnes for the Democratic primary. On Tuesday night, Jack will see just how influential my endorsement is.

Southern Comfort

July 17th, 2010
2:49 pm

Joe @ 2:45
:lol:

She could be trying to stoke anger using the half white/half black comment, but in reality, that’s who he is. If people don’t like it, or think it makes him any different, then that’s on them.

Dusty

July 17th, 2010
2:52 pm

Now now RW, 1:59

You had to go throw in those delightful Dems, St. Edwards and Gores II! Haven’t you heard? Dems are perfect! Only Republicans are bad bad boys (& girls). Bookman tells us that almost every day..
*******
Well, the Braves are playing tonight, the whole kit’n'kabootle..white, black & hispanic!! At least one group can “get along”. But… if they don’t play better tonight than last night, I may say a bad word and swing my mighty tomahawk!! Go Braves!!!!

kayaker 71

July 17th, 2010
2:56 pm

“I hate white people, all of them….. every last iota of a white person. I HATE HIM!!!! We didn’t come out here to play today. There’s too much serious business goin’ on here in the black community to be out here slidin’ through South St. with white dirty cracker whores on our arms. You want freedom? You are gonna” have to kill some white people. You’re gonna’ have to kill some their babies. We have to get our act together. I HATE WHITE PEOPLE, ALL OF THEM, EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM.”

Word for word from your friendly, racially aware Black Panther party. No word from the NAACP about this outrage. Nothing from the Congressional Black Caucus. Nothing from Bookman. Nothing from Tucker. Little to nothing from the MSM. No condemnation of this hate speech from anyone on the left. Compared to the above, Mr. William’s diatribe is a nursery rhyme.

Joe

July 17th, 2010
2:57 pm

SoCo,

You seem to be making an odd distinction. Palin’s not racist (you believe), but if she’s trying to stoke the anger of those who are, then that’s okay with you?

I’m sorry, but if people don’t like it, and Palin knows they don’t like it (inspiring such a comment), then that’s on her.

Jay

July 17th, 2010
3:04 pm

Kayaker, the modern Black Panther party consists of about a dozen nobodies to whom nobody pays attention, except of course the race-baiters on Fox who use them to scare white people.

Let me know when prominent Democrats show up for Black Panther rallies and defend them on national TV and defer to them and woo them for support. Otherwise, there’s no comparison whatsoever and you know it.

Southern Comfort

July 17th, 2010
3:05 pm

Joe

One can be a populist, which I believe Palin is, and not be racist. It’s kinda like the way some politicians sided with the Dixiecrats when their rhetoric was popular, and switched teams as soon as it was politically advantageous to do so.

I just happen to think that Palin is a populist and will advocate whatever position appeals to the most people. Not to say that she doesn’t have personal convictions, but I think she does some things or says some things to stay in the spotlight.

Kayaker

Has any of the Tea Party Leadership gone on record, prior to this dust-up with the NAACP, to ask them to repudiate those statements? I don’t recall them doing that, but I’m willing to side with you if they indeed asked the NAACP to do such a task.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

July 17th, 2010
3:10 pm

Well, it’ just a shame some people ain’t as advanced as some of us. You don’t never use the N-word except when you’re with fambly. When you talk to or write to people you don’t know too good, you use Those People. I reckon it takes some people a long time to catch on. Most of us rednecks caught on a long time ago.

So I’m with the other Conservatives on here. I ain’t rascist. I just don’t like or want my tax money going to Those People. Us Tea Partiers got our standards, and it don’t include using the N-word. If we got something to say against Those People, we’ll say it to other White people we know good. Otherwise, we’ll just be quiet and vote the dickens against all of the jungle bunnies Those People. I got lots of friends that are Those People. Like SoCo and Debbie DoRight and Midori and such. It’s just that I don’t invite them into my trailer or eat and drink with them. You can be seperate and still not be a rascist.

Have a good p.m. everybody.

AmVet

July 17th, 2010
3:13 pm

JB is correct, this is just an absurd and desperate comparison by a myopic master of red herrings, who is almost certainly “unaware” that:

Bobby Seale, one of the co-founding members of the original Black Panther Party, spoke out against the New Black Panther Party. Calling the rhetoric of the New Black Panther Party “xenophobic”, he spoke of their remarks as, “absurd, racial, [and] categorical”.

“Just to hate another person because [of] the color of their skin or their ethnicity — we don’t do that. That’s not what the goal objective is. The goal objective is human liberation. The goal objective is the greater community cooperation and humanism. The goal objective is to get rid of institutionalized racism….

And for that scumbag Glenn Beck to even infer these bigots are somehow covertly being paid back by Obama is just more evidence of his amazing stupidity and sickness…

Joe

July 17th, 2010
3:13 pm

I agree SoCo. One can be a populist without being a racist. In addition, one can be a populist while being racist, and one can be a populist while being a race baiter.

While we’re on the subject of populists, Palin is anything but. She’s a plutocrat disguised as a populist. She’s a corporate prop working exclusively for the benefit of the wealthiest among us. She couldn’t care less about the middle class and the poor.

Jackie

July 17th, 2010
3:24 pm

@Jack

If everyone that Sarah Palin endorses gets elected, John McCain would be the President of the USA.