Tea Party’s national spokesman proves NAACP correct after all

Earlier this week I wrote a post critical of the NAACP for a proposed resolution condemning the Tea Party movement as racially motivated and accusing it of wanting “to push our country back to the pre-civil rights era.”

As it turns out, NAACP leadership had similar qualms. Before putting it to a vote of their members, they moderated the resolution to state that “we take no issue with the Tea Party movement,” while urging it to “make clear there is no place for racism and anti-Semitism, homophobia and other forms of bigotry in their movement.”

Tea Party officials and supporters strongly condemned the resolution nonetheless.

“No, the Tea Party Movement is a beautiful movement, full of diverse people, diverse backgrounds,” Sarah Palin said on Fox News. “Folks of all walks of life who, for the most part, happen to oppose President Obama’s policies. Not the color of his skin. They don’t care that he’s half white or half black.”

Mark Williams, a national spokesman for the Tea Party Express, was even more blunt.

“You’re dealing with people who are professional race-baiters, who make a very good living off this kind of thing. They make more money off of race than any slave trader ever. It’s time groups like the NAACP went to the trash heap of history where they belong with all the other vile racist groups that emerged in our history,” he said.

Noting that the NAACP has the word “colored” in its name (a vestige of its founding in 1909) Williams then went on to post a satirical letter ostensibly written by NAACP President Benjamin Jealous to President Abraham Lincoln:

Dear Mr. Lincoln:

We Colored People have taken a vote and decided that we don’t cotton to that whole emancipation thing. Freedom means having to work for real, think for ourselves, and take consequences along with the rewards. That is just far too much to ask of us Colored People and we demand that it stop!

In fact we held a big meeting and took a vote in Kansas City this week. We voted to condemn a political revival of that old abolitionist spirit called the ‘tea party movement’.

The tea party position to “end the bailouts” for example is just silly. Bailouts are just big money welfare and isn’t that what we want all Coloreds to strive for? What kind of racist would want to end big money welfare? What they need to do is start handing the bail outs directly to us coloreds! Of course, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People is the only responsible party that should be granted the right to disperse the funds.

And the ridiculous idea of “reduce[ing] the size and intrusiveness of government.” What kind of massa would ever not want to control my life? As Coloreds we must have somebody care for us otherwise we would be on our own, have to think for ourselves and make decisions!

The racist tea parties also demand that the government “stop the out of control spending.” Again, they directly target Colored People. That means we Colored People would have to compete for jobs like everybody else and that is just not right.

Perhaps the most racist point of all in the tea parties is their demand that government “stop raising our taxes.” That is outrageous! How will we Colored People ever get a wide screen TV in every room if non-coloreds get to keep what they earn? Totally racist! The tea party expects coloreds to be productive members of society?

Mr. Lincoln, you were the greatest racist ever. We had a great gig. Three squares, room and board, all our decisions made by the massa in the house. Please repeal the 13th and 14th Amendments and let us get back to where we belong.

Sincerely

Precious Ben Jealous,
Tom’s Nephew
National Association for the Advancement of Colored People Head Colored Person

Williams has since pulled that letter, but the sentiments behind it are clear. In fact, I would say the debate is now over and that Williams has quite convincingly proved the NAACP correct: There are indeed racist elements in the Tea Party movement, in fact among its national leadership. The Tea Party and its defenders, including Palin and others, can now sit silent or they can take action by removing Williams from his role and condemning his statements.

609 comments Add your comment

Kamchak

July 17th, 2010
7:51 pm

AmVet

Time to re-upholster the ol’ fainting couch.

Scout

July 17th, 2010
7:51 pm

Del:

Liberals in the open …………. W/P on target ……….. fire for effect over !!

Scout

July 17th, 2010
7:53 pm

theyeshavit:

I hear you but if it had been a case where someone had a lot of money for attorneys & jury analysts or a death penalty case and you would have probably been tossed.

I get tossed everytime.

TDone

July 17th, 2010
7:59 pm

There are racists elements in everything. I have encountered more racism lately from panty waist liberals than anyone else.

Get real…

SPQR(laissez Faire)

July 17th, 2010
8:00 pm

Bookman says: But if the Tea Party is NOT a fringe group, then they better clean up their act.

or not.. they seem to be pretty damn popular and growing, doing just fine without outisde commentators input. In fact, i am 100% sure the teas party has a much larger following than the NAACP, and the naacp (putting in caps legitimizes them so I won’t do it again) had a hundred year headstart.

I HATE LEFTISTS..EVERY IOTA OF THEM.!!

TaxPayer

July 17th, 2010
8:05 pm

spqr,

you put “leftists” in caps.

SPQR(laissez Faire)

July 17th, 2010
8:05 pm

PHOENIX (AP) – The number of deaths among illegal immigrants crossing the Arizona desert from Mexico is soaring so high this month that the medical examiner’s office that handles the bodies is using a refrigerated truck to store some of them, the chief examiner said Friday.

whatever works…

Moderate Line

July 17th, 2010
8:06 pm

Fred

July 17th, 2010
7:39 pm
This is funny. I’m being attacked by a left wing mindless idiot and a right wing mindless idiot all at the same time. They are proving my point………..

but none of it is really on topic is it? That doesn’t matter to them, they spew the same bile regardless of the topic lol.
++++++++++
Fred that is the way it is when you don’t accept their beliefs. Left and right.

SPQR(laissez Faire)

July 17th, 2010
8:08 pm

taxpayer, that was righteous “hatred” caps… hard to convey emotional intent thru the written word..I think it was the great Egon spangler, who said “print is dead”.

RW-(the original)

July 17th, 2010
8:11 pm

hard to convey emotional intent thru the written word

Fred’s not having much trouble with it.

RW-(the original)

July 17th, 2010
8:12 pm

Where’d my slanties go?

theyeshaveit

July 17th, 2010
8:15 pm

Scout,

Am I mistaken? I thought that you were in law enforcement. Peace officers do not get placed on juries, right? By the way, I had to chuckle on my last day of jury duty. As I began the two-block walk from the parking lot to the courthouse, I noticed the driver coming in wore “the cloth”. Yes, he was a Catholic priest. I wondered what he might have been like on a jury.

Southern Comfort

July 17th, 2010
8:16 pm

i am 100% sure the teas party has a much larger following than the NAACP, and the naacp (putting in caps legitimizes them so I won’t do it again) had a hundred year headstart.

For all your hatred towards all things Left and NAACP, do you even know who the founders were. Here’s an excerpt of the list of signees when it was founded:

“Hence we call upon all the believers in democracy to join in a national conference for the discussion of present evils, the voicing of protests, and the renewal of the struggle for civil and political liberty.”

This call was signed by: JaneAdams, Chicago; Samuel Bowles (Springfield Republican); Prof. W.L. Bulkley, New York; Harriet Stanton Blatch, New York; Ida Wells Barnett, Chicago; E. H. Clement, Boston; Kate H. Claghorn, New York; Prof. John Dewey, New York; Dr. W. E. B.DuBois, Atlanta; Mary E. Dreier, Brooklyn; Dr. John L. Elliott, New York; Wm. Lloyd Garrison, Boston; Rev. Francis J. Grimke, Washington, D.C.; William Dean Howells, New York; Rabbi Emil G. Hirsch, Chicago; Rev. John Haynes Holmes, New York;… et. al.

http://naacp.com/about/history/howbegan/index.htm

Take a look at the page and see who was chosen to write the beginning history of the NAACP. Take a look at the picture on the right of page. Notice how she says that she was the 1st membr.

On that list, there’s a Springfield Republican (remember this wasn’t more than 40-50 years after the Republican Lincoln freed the slaves), there’s a Rabbi, ministers, and other people. So, in effect, to hate the NAACP and say it’s not legitimate, is to disavow the work of a fellow Republican.

On memberships and followings, the Tea Party probably does indeed have a larger following as it’s the “shiny new car in the dealership”. However, when you count actual dues paying members, the Tea Party doesn’t compete. Remember, the Tea Party is a group of individuals bonding for a common purpose, but there is no common charter, organizational structure, or headquarters…

And, on that note, I’m departing to watch Law Abiding Citizen.

C-ya later!!!

Del

July 17th, 2010
8:18 pm

Scout,

Willy Pete in their back pockets…repeat fire mission…say again…repeat fire mission…over

@@

July 17th, 2010
8:23 pm

RW:

Where’d my slanties go?

I have some extras if you wanna use them.

/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

I can make more.

Scout

July 17th, 2010
8:25 pm

Del:

Roger you last …………… shot out !

RW-(the original)

July 17th, 2010
8:26 pm

Thanks @@! I’ll start with just a handful.

//////

Scout

July 17th, 2010
8:26 pm

theyeshavit:

Yes ……. that’s exactly why I get tossed because I would see through all of the smokescreen B/S the defense puts up to confuse the jury. And the sad thing is, most judges let them get by with it.

T-Town

July 17th, 2010
8:28 pm

Hmmm, different kind of blog tonite.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

July 17th, 2010
8:30 pm

If Libertarians are such perfect people who know it all, why do they never get more than 3% of the vote, just askin…

And by the way, you can’t spell Libertarian without the Lib, just sayin…

SPQR(laissez Faire)

July 17th, 2010
8:31 pm

I don’t hate the founders of the naacp..I might if i knew them, probably , who knows..depends on how colelctivist they were. I base my hate for the organization on what they have done in my lifetime (mid 80’s forward) which is whine racism at every drop of a hat, and do such foolishness as boycott BBQ sauce companies because they won;t kowtow to the naacp’s version of politicall correct words list.

And I have no problem trashing the work of some republicans. Lindsey Grahmnesty , for instance, is also in the hate column of my life ledger.

Scout

July 17th, 2010
8:32 pm

SPQR(laissez Faire)

July 17th, 2010
8:35 pm

Del

July 17th, 2010
8:35 pm

Fred,

Now I’m going to have to say this in defense of AmVet. I’m a conservative and no doubt he’s on the left but I’ve seen him come down hard on Obama and the Democrats before. So I would not call him unAmerican. It’s all about the pendulum in politics i.e. you have an incumbent president whose far left or perceived by the voters to be far left the pendulum swings with the voters in the opposite direction. I think that’s what’s happening now as the pendulum swings to the right. AmVet and those who believe in his ideology see this happening and are trying to reverse it’s momentum. Those of us on the right would be doing the same thing in reverse. I don’t wish AmVet any ill will, only bad luck in his efforts.

@@

July 17th, 2010
8:36 pm

Yet some Republicans worry that tea-party candidates are settling too comfortably into their roles as unruly insurgents and could prove hard to manage if they get elected.

Paul, who beat GOP establishment favorite Trey Grayson in Kentucky’s primary, told the National Review that he would seek to join forces with GOP Sens. Jim DeMint (S.C.) and Tom Coburn (Okla.), “who are unafraid to stand up” and who have blocked numerous bills advanced by both parties deemed by the pair as expanding government.–WaPo

Interesting choice of word “manage”.

If Republicans are this concerned, imagine how concerned Democrats are.

Tea Partiers might upset their little fiefdom.

Too funny!

theyeshaveit

July 17th, 2010
8:38 pm

About hatred and politics…

I suppose that since my political awakening, there has always been a mixture of hatred in American politics. Even in the I Like Ike years, someone hated him (maybe for playing too much golf?). Kennedy was hated for being Catholic. LBJ was hated for not being Kennedy and all those birds in the family. Nixon was hated for his enemies list and for being a crook. Ford was hated for pardoning Nixon and for playing golf very very badly. Carter was hated for doing nothing but getting Sadat and Begin together. Reagan was hated even though he was the nice, grandfatherly Great Communicator. G.H. Bush was hated because he said, “Read my lips” and then gagged himself as he levied more taxes. Clinton was hated because he was, as far as we know, the only POTUS to get a Lewinsky. G.W. Bush, I am not so sure he was hated as much as pitied (Cheney, yes, he was hated). But I have never seen hatred like that which elements of the Tea Party have perpetrated.

http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2009/09/18/obamawitchdoctor.jpg

The hatred in the political arena is venomous, sometimes violent and has gone viral.

.

SPQR(laissez Faire)

July 17th, 2010
8:38 pm

The interviewee..”Peaches” probably votes democrat.

Notice how the left is so sure Rush and Boortz et al are racist, yet they have black Producers..Royal T and Bo Snerdley.

@@

July 17th, 2010
8:42 pm

Speaking of third party candidates…

AmVet? Question for you.

You say you vote third party…how often have your candidates won? I’d be curious to know how they’ve fared once in a leadership role. Can you offer some examples?

SPQR(laissez Faire)

July 17th, 2010
8:46 pm

Hatred has always existed, exists today, and always will exist in politics and ALL aspects of Life. It’s generally caused by long periods of compromise which elaves both sides unfullfilled and seathing in anger at the other side. At least thats how I feel when I have to compromise.

It’s funny to watch the elft , eye wide, foaming at the mouth, exclaim that todays political rhetoric is deadly and new. As i recall, Aaron Burr shot Alexander Hamilton dead over a supposed personal rumor Hamilton started to derail Burr’s political progress.. that was 1804

Senator Preston Brooks beat Sen. Charles Sumner(a total douchebag anyway, it is said) with a walking stick to withijn an inch of his life, on the senate floor in 1860..THATS something i’d love to see erupt on c-span!

And of course, the great John Wilkes Booth killed the american Caeser in 1865

SPQR(laissez Faire)

July 17th, 2010
8:47 pm

why can’t i touch type the word left! damn

Dusty

July 17th, 2010
8:50 pm

SoCo, 8:16

That was an impressive group that founded the NAACP. They took a step that was very much needed. They were fighting discrimination with a united front. I believe their goals were honorable.

But those times are mostly history. Not that there is no discrimination. There is. But there are laws, the total purpose is to prevent discrimination, not only for black people but for all people. I think those laws are being enforced.

But like the DAR i.e. the Daughters of the American Revolution, it is a fine old organization that is a relic of the past. I feel the same way about the NAACP. Their usefulness has passed. They seem intent now in making a fuss to show they are still around and needed. Perhaps they would be more useful if they changed their name to the National Association for the Advancement of All People.

theyeshaveit

July 17th, 2010
8:50 pm

Rush? The ever nimble at the palate Rush Limbaugh? The one who said this about Donovan McNabb and got fired by ESPN, “”I don’t think he’s been that good from the get-go. I think what we’ve had here is a little social concern in the NFL. I think the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. They’re interested in black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well. I think there’s a little hope invested in McNabb and he got a lot of credit for the performance of his team that he really didn’t deserve. The defense carried this team.” The one who said, “But then you have comments like “that cracker made a lot of African-Americans millionaires,” and, “at the same time, he fired a lot of white guys.”

Nah, Rush loves everyone.

AmVet

July 17th, 2010
8:51 pm

I don’t wish AmVet any ill will, only bad luck in his efforts.

Del, salute! I like that and I may just Joe Biden it from you!

Disgusted

July 17th, 2010
8:54 pm

Senator Preston Brooks beat Sen. Charles Sumner(a total douchebag anyway, it is said) with a walking stick to withijn an inch of his life, on the senate floor in 1860..THATS something i’d love to see erupt on c-span!

It’s interesting to me that those most vehement in denying any racist motive are usually the ones who display the most hate and vitriol toward those with whom they disagree. In reading their words, one can almost envision the rope and an angry mob in the torch light.

Del

July 17th, 2010
8:54 pm

theyeshaveit,

I’m not in favor of hatred and I personally don’t feel hatred towards Obama, however, if it’s hatred on the part of Tea Party folks or the electorate at large that removes this socialist, I’m all in favor of it.

theyeshaveit

July 17th, 2010
8:54 pm

SPQR said And of course, the great John Wilkes Booth killed the american Caeser in 1865

Your honor, I have no further questions for this witness.

Del

July 17th, 2010
8:55 pm

AmVet,

LOL…have a great evening.

theyeshaveit

July 17th, 2010
8:55 pm

Del,

So, the end justifies the means?

@@

July 17th, 2010
8:59 pm

It’s been said that California will, one day, slip into the ocean. WRONG!

Ultimately, the stress moves closer to bigger faults that need more pressure to erupt, thus creating larger and larger earthquakes until the “Big One” happens.

“It’s a matter of looking at the major earthquakes in California over the last 20, 30, 40 years,” said UC Davis’ Rundle. “They seem to be occurring everywhere except the major faults — the San Andreas, the Elsinore and the San Jacinto.”

There’s a hole in this possible earthquake pattern

They’re gonna slip into a donut hole.

SPQR(laissez Faire)

July 17th, 2010
9:02 pm

above..Need i remind Sumner and Lincoln were white? Again, no racial component..Ideology, not race.

In fact I admire Don King, greatly!

“Moolah makes the world turn, M-F’er! Not Allah, Moolah!”

Del

July 17th, 2010
9:07 pm

I’ve been called for flick time, so Taps and y’all have good night.

Southern Comfort

July 17th, 2010
9:17 pm

SPQR

It’s your hate to wield, and I can’t tell you or force you to hate or not hate someone. The thing I see is, if you hate the entire organization for the actions of a few, or even a majority, you’re no different than those who hate the Tea Party for the actions of a few. So, it appears that you would have more in common with those you hate than you realize.

(Law Abiding Citizen had language too saucy for the lil sidekick)

Scout

July 17th, 2010
9:18 pm

Barack Obama Has Awakened a Sleeping Nation

http://www.aspentimes.com/article/2010100229854

Fred

July 17th, 2010
9:22 pm

My I picked the wrong time to eat supper. So many comments to address, yet the time is past…….

@@: I’m not angry. I’m not even miffed. Nay, I have not yet even begun to get worked up. I’m just saying………

Southern Comfort: I didn’t know Dubois was from Atlanta, for some reason I thought he was from philly or some other Yankee place. What a collection of some of the BEST Americans we have from this city. While not an expert on him, I believe it safe to say that he was one of the finest minds of his time.

Del: I dunno, I only have about 2 blogs worth of content to go on. Mainly I addressed the things said in THIS one. But I’ll take heed to your comment going forward. He just SEEMS like a fanatic to me in what I have read today. And to be truthful, I shouldn’t laugh so publicly at fanatics. But I AM right about them canceling each other out lol.

SPQR: Give it up already. Why do you insist on bringing up the black panthers when referring to the tea party organization? You are making the point for Jay. (Refer back to my post about republicans being too STUPID to vote for). Virtually everyone here (except you) has acknowledged the fact that the black panthers are a fringe group based on hate who speak for NO ONE except their pitiful selves. While I can’t speak for certain, I would feel comfortable saying that most black people are as ashamed of them as I am of the KKK. What you are doing is the equivalent of a tv commercial comparing a kia to a rolls royce and then saying the kia is better because it costs less. They aren’t in the same category. Put the beer down and step away from the keyboard. Or keep the beer, just step away from the keyboard either way…………

I know I missed a few, but what the heck, there will be plenty of opportunities to get them. Seems like the same people populate this blog and from what I have read usually say the same things so whatever I missed will come up again. ;)

Dusty

July 17th, 2010
9:23 pm

SPQR

I noticed you mentioned illegal aliens dying in the Sonoran Desert in AZ. The number may be increasing but it is nothing new at all. I worked in the Indian Hospital at Sells for several summers. It is 60 miles south of Tucson.and on a direct path northwards for illegals. Why? Because the tall sacred mountain of the Tohono O’Dom (Papago) known as Barboquvri is there and acts as a guide post north. Any time you would drive to Tucson you could see illegals scurrying through desert shrubs, traveling on foot and trying to stay out of sight.

As now, many of them died, as many were totally unprepared for any kind of desert travel. It isn’t an “easy” death. Also, this reservation area is so vast with minimal habitation that it is almost impossible to have total surveillance.

Back then, most illegals came to the USA for economic reasons. That may still be true but the violence in Mexico is terrible as we all know. Anyway, I hate to hear that many more people are dying in the desert now.. It is a heart breaking situation and seemingly never ended.

Southern Comfort

July 17th, 2010
9:23 pm

Dusty

When one looks at the term Colored, for me it goes beyond just Blacks. Have you ever noticed how dark Europeans get when they tan? Middle Easterners? East Asian Indians? Native American Indians?

For me, I don’t think the organization is a relic, I think it’s a case of mis-directed energy. That’s the same thing I see with the Tea Party. People are so focused on what they see on tv, they don’t get a chance to see what goes on behind the scenes. I’m no Tea Party expert, but I have personally seen NAACP chapters give scholarships to students who desperately needed the funds. I’ve seen them conduct food and funding drives to help less fortunate. Those are not the type of things you see in the news because it’s not sensational enough for ratings.

I imagine the Tea Parties and other groups do similar things without the publicity as well. It’s my approach, but I like to see the entire organization before passing judgement on the group as a whole. However, I think it’s perfectly ok and fair to call out the actions of the few who do wrong and it’s brought to light.

Fred

July 17th, 2010
9:25 pm

Damn, I KNEW I missed something important………..

Amvet: Great tune. Thanks. I added it to my favs on youtube.

@@

July 17th, 2010
9:33 pm

Fred:

You’re not angry? Alrighty din!

Now I know that, even on your good days, you’re likely to call me a mindless fanatic, liar, hypocrite, scumbag, and idiot. And all without ever having met me.

Glad we got that cleared up.

Fred

July 17th, 2010
9:34 pm

Let me return the favor Amvet. Since you seem to be Hustlin’ here………..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLDitGAUrno

Fred

July 17th, 2010
9:35 pm

@@; Sorry, I just calls them likes I sees them. I gotta be angry to tell the truth?

@@

July 17th, 2010
9:36 pm

SoCo:

Have you ever noticed how dark Europeans get when they tan? Middle Easterners? East Asian Indians? Native American Indians?

I feel your pain. I’m colored.

(ISH)

@@

July 17th, 2010
9:38 pm

Fred:

I’ve got no problem with people callin’ like they sees ‘em.

I’ll just disagree with your assessment of who and what I am.

I can do that.

AmVet

July 17th, 2010
9:40 pm

Thanks, Del. Right back at ya.

“…and from what I have read usually say the same things so whatever I missed will come up again.”

Funny, but true!

Fred, the way I see it, the trick here is to not take, or make, it personal. Do that and you’ll be fine…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuMlHdxiIZ8

Southern Comfort

July 17th, 2010
9:43 pm

@@

I started to use you as an example since I remember you talking about your tan. I didn’t want you to think that I was trying to demean you or anything.

(ISH)

@@

July 17th, 2010
9:44 pm

So, AmVet. Have you been able to recall any of those third party candidates you’ve voted for who won?

I really would like to see how they’ve fared in a leadership role.

@@

July 17th, 2010
9:46 pm

SoCo:

I can only feel your pain 10 months out of the year. I begin to fade in February, then pick it back up in May.

I don’t forget about you in those 2 months though.

Hootinanny Yum Yum

July 17th, 2010
9:48 pm

California NAACP Wants to Make Neverland a State Park

Why the moderation JB?

Southern Comfort

July 17th, 2010
9:50 pm

@@

I appreciate it. My favorite teacher in high school was the same way. The beginning of the school year, I’d tease her and call her a sister. She was of Italian descent, and she would tan almost as dark as I was. That was a lesson in how much we are really alike that I have never forgotten. She was also my math teacher and one of the two who inspired me to get a degree in mathematics.

@@

July 17th, 2010
9:51 pm

I hate mathematicians.

I suck at math.

Fred

July 17th, 2010
9:55 pm

@@: I don’t recall calling you anything. Could you help me out here? Or did I say something that hit a nerve. I DID “single” Amvet out, but I apologised for that right after explaining it was just the particular post he made that fit my rant at the time. But you? I don’t recall “calling you out.” Gotta guilty conscience do you or did you just find a pair of shoes that fit and decided to buy them?

Southern Comfort

July 17th, 2010
9:55 pm

@@

My original goal was to become a math teacher. Since I didn’t get my certification while in school, I got the run-around back when they were trying to hire teachers from professional jobs. I may go back and pursue it whenever I retire from my current job.

Fred

July 17th, 2010
9:56 pm

Right back atcha Amvet. Hope you enjoy lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1GjyrQiSRs

Hillbilly Deluxe

July 17th, 2010
9:57 pm

Seems like a waste of time, to me, to hate somebody you never met. But what do I know? :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwCHFaarTjY

@@

July 17th, 2010
9:59 pm

Fred:

I was one of the two “extreme attackers” you mentioned after having posted what that they/we/I was/were mindless fanatics, liars, hypocrites, scumbags, and idiots.

No biggie, really. I’ve been called worse.

Forget about it.

@@

July 17th, 2010
10:00 pm

….take that “what” out and my 9:59 is good to go.

IHB

@@

July 17th, 2010
10:04 pm

SoCo:

I got straight A’s in Algebra. I’m good with abstracts…lousy with concrete, although I AM pretty good with masonry. I think it has something to do with the artistic element.

Southern Comfort

July 17th, 2010
10:05 pm

Time for me to check out. The Braves just went down in a blaze of glory, and I’m spent for the day.

Might see y’all tomorrow, might not.

Anyway’s… G’nite everybody..

AmVet

July 17th, 2010
10:07 pm

Fred, that Kinison was hysterical.

Hillbilly, I think I shared this already, but what the hey. I met this young black guy in the gym one day and we started talking. The conversation turned to music and he shared that he was really bummed that Robert Palmer had recently died. One world.

A couple of monster covers by him…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6gLOJm_Swk&feature=related

Southern Comfort

July 17th, 2010
10:07 pm

@@

It’s probably your ability to think analytically!! I believe artistic ability falls more along analytical thinking than logical thinking. Dunno for sure, that’s for the psychology majors to figure out. Laters!!

(IHS)

Fred

July 17th, 2010
10:08 pm

Ya heard your name there did you @@? Funny, i never said it nor did I single you out. I DID respond to your post to me. :)

@@

July 17th, 2010
10:09 pm

AmVet, you’re not giving me the info on those third-party candidates. If they’ve never won, how can you be so sure they’d do a better job than either/or?

@@

July 17th, 2010
10:10 pm

Fred:

You’re having a hard time letting this go.

I have.

Time to move along.

Midori

July 17th, 2010
10:14 pm

SPQR(laissez Faire),

I feel sorry for you.

So much hatred.

So much ignorance.

So little worth to society.

Dusty

July 17th, 2010
10:15 pm

SoCo,

The NAACP was founded in 1909. I believe that history would say that colored in those days referred to black. It is fine to believe that diversity was a prime consideration in those days but I don’t think it was.

Perhaps, if you knew to whom scholarships are now given and to what universities, you might find how much diversity there is in the present day organization.

@@

July 17th, 2010
10:17 pm

Fred:

But just so you know:

Fred said: This is funny. I’m being attacked by a left wing mindless idiot and a right wing mindless idiot all at the same time. They are proving my point………..

but none of it is really on topic is it? That doesn’t matter to them, they spew the same bile regardless of the topic lol.

Have a good evening, Fred.

@@

July 17th, 2010
10:19 pm

So, has anyone checked out the winners and losers in the Financial Regulation Bill?

We, consumers didn’t fare too well. We were on the losing end.

Oh well.

Goodnight!

Fred

July 17th, 2010
10:20 pm

Amvet: I have had many things stolen of pilfered from me in my life, but the one thing I miss the most is my Sneakin’ Sally through the Alley disc. I got it in Germany in the 80’s (I had the vinyl, but it got tossed) and someone stole it. I can’t find it anywhere. I can’t even get the damn songs on youtube. I found Hey Hey Julia on some video a dude did jerking a tooth out of his little girls mouth, and Grace Porter doing the cover, but the REAL songs, I can’t find. Robert Palmer ruled.

Grace: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1zsST71m-I&playnext_from=TL&videos=SL3ty55eGE0

Pulling a tooth: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FnLTN6nv1c&playnext_from=TL&videos=5BHx65mPGBw

Sorry for the threadus interuptus………..

Dusty

July 17th, 2010
10:33 pm

Well, I will say good night too. I plan to make early service tomorrow at church.

Yep, lotsa fine folks there. White, black but no Asians except for our Cambodian. He was in a prison camp there for eight years.!! We don’t know how lucky we are….

AmVet

July 17th, 2010
10:34 pm

Fred, Germany in the 80s? US Army?

One of my two brothers who wore green (I was AF blue.) was stationed in K-town. Or was it Wiesbaden?

My mom is a German Jew, and along with her parents fled the holocaust to England. She came from a little town in the Schwarzwald called Freiburg im Breisgau. We rendezvoused for a visit in the mid 80s and even though she hadn’t been there in over 40 years, she remembered where everything still was. A fine little town.

I had forgotten just how good that Sneakin’ stuff was. I do vaguely remember his version. Ta.

SPQR(laissez Faire)

July 17th, 2010
10:35 pm

Midori, I hold no personal animosity towards you, but a bit of advice..worrying about others , that whole tired empathy baggage..will only lead you to pain and grey hair.

I don;t CARE to add value to society. I’m in this life for me and those few I care about, whatever society gets out of that is stickly coincidental spillover. I sure as hell am not doing anything for free.

capitalism has a lot of incidental spillover. Nearly all human advancement has been due to hard work for personal enrichment. Nothing good ever comes from “forced charity”..aka social welfare.

Fred

July 17th, 2010
10:38 pm

Last hijack. i jUST found the unholy trinity Amvet. All three tunes like right of the album. Sailing Shoes, Hey Hey Julia, and Sneakin’ Sally…….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMnzytIbH1I&playnext_from=TL&videos=31CVz6rOatI

SPQR(laissez Faire)

July 17th, 2010
10:40 pm

I wonder how much it would cost to have a giant Guy Fawkes mask displayed on one of those LED changable billboards for Nov 2nd.

AmVet

July 17th, 2010
10:58 pm

“Nearly all human advancement has been due to hard work for personal enrichment.”

No question. Pain and pleasure.

That RP really was worthy of that irreverent moniker, Fred. Niiice.

One of my very favorite Irish artists.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5Hsu-A-WYM

theyeshaveit

July 17th, 2010
11:00 pm

SPQR,

This is for you in the present and Ayn Rand in post mortem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Jj3wZVc7nw&feature=related

theyeshaveit

July 17th, 2010
11:04 pm

AmVet,

I had forgotten that you too were in the Air Force. Where were you based?

I was at Lackland, Syracuse (for Russian), Goodfellow AFB in San Angelo, Japan, and ended up at NSA.

Scout

July 17th, 2010
11:11 pm

theyeshaveit:

I forgot you two were in the world’s largest quasi-military organization.

Just kidding ………….. :o

Scout

July 17th, 2010
11:18 pm

theyeshaveit:

I don’t know if you had a chance to read the editorial at my 9:18 (someone just sent it to me today) and I also know you will disagree with a lot of it but it’s pretty much right on target for how a conservative feels.

AmVet

July 17th, 2010
11:24 pm

theyeshaveit,

Lackland, Keesler, MacDill, RAF Bentwaters/Woodbridge (sister bases). 7 week TDY to Aviano.

Flew back from Europe to McGuire on Dec. 31, 1976. Yep, New Years Eve. Got changed and went off base. Some girls picked us up hitchhiking and we went to a club and partied til it was jetlagged crazy. When we left it was snowing like a madman. I discharged the next day and by noon was a civilian with $1200 cash! But the snowstorm turned into a full blown blizzard and I couldn’t leave for three days. Ironic, huh?

Mick

July 17th, 2010
11:49 pm

SPQR(laissez Faire)

July 18th, 2010
12:25 am

@theeyeshaveit
Great movie / mediocre hippie music

…How long had I been lying there? All these signs of violence. What had happened? There was evidence in this room of excessive consumption of almost every type of drug known to civilized man since 1544 AD. What kind of addict would need all these coconut husks and crushed honeydew rinds? Would the presence of junkies account for all these uneaten french fries? These puddles of glazed ketchup on the bureau? Maybe so. But then why all this booze? And these crude pornographic photos smeared with mustard that had dried to a hard yellow crust? These were not the hoofprints of your average God-fearing junky. It was too savage. Too aggressive.

Nothing is Free

July 18th, 2010
1:03 am

How about writing an article about this, Jay, you friggin coward:

BILOXI, Mississippi (Reuters) – Fishermen in Mississippi say they are angry that under the terms of BP’s $20 billion oil spill fund, money they earn doing clean-up will be subtracted from their claim against the company.

The fishermen reacted after Kenneth Feinberg, the federal official in charge of administering the compensation fund, announced the decision at a town hall meeting in Biloxi on Friday.

So Obama’s people aren’t on their knees in front of BP?

Disgusting.

Nothing is Free

July 18th, 2010
1:12 am

Jay

**I would say the debate is now over **

When are you going to grow a brain?

So this is the issue, is it? The Tea Party is racist?

You are a friggin idiot.

the federal Government just allowed the BRITISH PETROLEUM CORPORATION TO SCREW THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN CLEANING UP THE BEACH.

YOUR OBAMA administration is allowing the same foreign oil company that just dumped a half billion gallon on oil on our beaches to screw the people who were trying to clean up their mess.

I hope you lose your job as quickly as possible. You really need to know how these people feel.

Nothing is Free

July 18th, 2010
1:16 am

Jay

Expect to man up and address this or kick me off this blog because expect your nose to be rubbed in this every day until you address it.

Friggin clueless liberal coward.

Jay

July 18th, 2010
1:25 am

OK NiF. We can do that. Consider yourself gone, Mighty Sir Bluster-a-Lot.

Let’s call it a cooling-off period, shall we?

A parting point:

What did you think would happen? A court settlement from BP would be compensation for lost wages and income. The money they’re making now from BP reduces what their lost wages and income would be. Basic stuff.

You guys were squealing when Obama strong-armed BP into coming up with that $20 billion, claiming he was some big bad bully. Now that very same Obama is on his knees for BP? The only consistent thread between those two positions is an irrational hatred of all things Obama, no matter what he does.

RW-(the original)

July 18th, 2010
1:36 am

NIF,

When I began to address this there were four comments of yours up and as I begin to type there are only two so Jay B may well have tossed your posts down the memory hole by the time I finish, but I think you may be a little off base in your outrage on this. If the claim that is being offset is lost revenue for this season of fishing then it makes perfect sense to deduct the income for helping with the cleanup. If the offset keeps them from submitting a claim of future losses then I might agree with you, but I have an overall sticking point with the whole compensation process anyway.

The economy is at best poor and more likely in shambles so even if a business could prove taxable income in past years there’s no reason to believe they would have had the same level of income this year unless they can show an increase in dollars elsewhere that proves the revenue moved to another location. Making BP or any other entity make them artificially whole flys in the face of free market principles.

RW-(the original)

July 18th, 2010
1:42 am

So much for my message of never questioning a poster that’s lost the ability to respond…….

/I blame the Royal Corporation for inhibiting my typing skillz

RW-(the original)

July 18th, 2010
1:52 am

And since I’m playing blog insomniac tonight, congrats are in order to sfb. His team not only scored, finally, but scored in three consecutive innings.

theyeshaveit

July 18th, 2010
2:04 am

Didn’t think anyone would be up at this time, but I caught what just transpired between NIF and Jay.

I watched some of what was said at the meeting in Biloxi. I recall that one fisherman related that he was getting $5000 a month compensation from BP. Feinberg asked that fisherman how much he would normally get in the same period. His response was “$5000″. Feinberg then told the fisherman that he was already getting what he was entitled to and did not need ANOTHER $5000 from the funds set aside by BP in the escrow account. Feinberg also told the group that he would pay and pay up quickly but that the fisherman had to show him what they normally would be making during the season (that is receipts and the like). I thought he handled the meeting very well. .

Rightwing Troll

July 18th, 2010
4:15 am

Somebody came unhinged… or rather has been unhinged for quite some time but pushed the envelope too far…

So, let me get this straight. BP is supposed to support these fishermen for doing nothing? Isn’t that wealth redistibrution?

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

July 18th, 2010
4:52 am

The environmental terrorist liberals miss their little leak-

So is it over?

Not technically, not politically, not environmentally. BP’s Macondo well remains dangerous, a threat to gush anew and very much alive until it is plugged with cement in a “bottom kill” that’s still weeks away at best. -Urinal

Don’t worry, you’ll find something else to suck on, I’m sure.