Daily Kos says it got cheated by fraudulent pollster
Daily Kos founder Markos Moulitsas has announced that multiple polls conducted for his website were probably fabricated by Research 2000, the company he hired as his pollster.
Initially, Moulitsas says, he decided to fire Research 2000 after an analysis by the website Fivethirtyeight.com concluded that the company’s polling work was inaccurate. Three statistical experts then volunteered to look a little deeper at the Research 2000 numbers, and pretty quickly concluded that something was seriously wrong. “People who have been trusting the R2K reports should know about these extreme anomalies,” they wrote. “We do not know exactly how the weekly R2K results were created, but we are confident they could not accurately describe random polls.”
We contracted with Research 2000 to conduct polling and to provide us with the results of their surveys. Based on the report of the statisticians, it’s clear that we did not get what we paid for. We were defrauded by Research 2000, and while we don’t know if some or all of the data was fabricated or manipulated beyond recognition, we know we can’t trust it.
Meanwhile, Research 2000 has refused to offer any explanation. Early in this process, I asked for and they offered to provide us with their raw data for independent analysis — which could potentially exculpate them. That was two weeks ago, and despite repeated promises to provide us that data, Research 2000 ultimately refused to do so. At one point, they claimed they couldn’t deliver them because their computers were down and they had to work out of a Kinkos office. Research 2000 was delivered a copy of the report early Monday morning, and though they quickly responded and promised a full response, once again the authors of the report heard nothing more.
No response to the allegations has been posted at the Research 2000 site.
Alarmed, I’ve gone back to look to see how often I cited Research 2000 polls. I found three instances in the last two years. In April 2009 and again in September 2009, I cited Research 2000 polls done for Daily Kos that broke down political attitudes by region, including the South. I also cited a third poll, in May 2009, that purported to find that 43 percent of Georgia Republicans believed the state would be better off as an independent state than as part of the United States. (Initially, “I averted my eyes from that poll because frankly, I did not believe those findings and did not want to believe it,” I wrote, but decided to mention it after four of six GOP candidates for governor endorsed a Senate resolution threatening the dissolution of the United States.)
Daily Kos says it will be suing Research 2000 for fraud. It’s hard to know how that will turn out, but the company’s apparent lack of a response and refusal to provide raw data don’t make it look good.
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theyeshaveit
June 29th, 2010
7:46 pm
SFD, I am sorry, I also did not quite get the connection (at least the way you got it). What the heck is in that vodka sauce besides the vodka? And can I have some? :p
TaxPayer
June 29th, 2010
7:46 pm
Perhaps I need some vodka sauce since I actually followed sfd’s original remark.
getalife
June 29th, 2010
7:47 pm
kos got punked by a poll and obama so tensions are high and they turn on each other like the cons for not being lib or con enough.
Their latest victim was keith olbereman for attacking obama’s oil spill speech. He left then came back but at least they did not ask for his birth certificate.
stands for decibels
June 29th, 2010
7:47 pm
OT Numero Uno:
Not that I care all that much, but
1) I figured Larry King was only leaving his CNN slot in a pine box; and
2) who gets the slot now? (or being that cable TeeVee news is “rounding second and heading home,” so to speak, does it even especially matter any more?)
RW-(the original)
June 29th, 2010
7:48 pm
I don’t know about vodka sauce but I once knew a guy that swore he got drunk eating daiquiri ice cream from B&R.
stands for decibels
June 29th, 2010
7:52 pm
What the heck is in that vodka sauce besides the vodka? And can I have some? :p
heh. Just tomato, cream, spices (red pepper for sure)… And if you go to Publix, you can have some too. Store brand. $2.49 this week.
(wife was tired after dealing with our kid at local water park. She asked nicely. Picked up some en route home, and I whipped us up a quick dinner cuz that’s the kinda guy I am.)
Eli Jones
June 29th, 2010
7:52 pm
“DID YOU KNOW THAT MUSLIMS ARE EXEMPT FROM OBAMACARE”
Has anyone heard of Dhimmitude? It means surrendering to Muslim Demands and paying Muslims a tax for the right to be non-Muslim: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhimmitude
Why are Muslims and Christian Scientists exempt from being forced to carry Obamacare?
http://search.aol.com/aol/search?query=muslim+exemption+from+Obamacare&s_it=keyword_rollover
Unbelievable for America!
I had my doubts so I checked with Snopes. There is an exemption for the Muslims in the Health Care Bill. Obama supporters check it out yourself.
Had never heard the word until now—Type it into Google and start reading… Pretty interesting. Note that Muslims and certain other religions are exempt from the Obamacare penalties and it is supported by law. We are surrendering from within! The prez is leading us right down the path to total Muslim control and you don’t even care! Maybe you voted for him but now the truth comes out. Maybe you should rethink what you have done to our country.
Dhimmitude is the Muslim system of controlling non-muslim populations conquered through jihad. Specifically, it is the TAXING of non-muslims in exchange for tolerating their presence AND as a coercive means of converting conquered remnants to islam.
The ObamaCare bill is the establishment of Dhimmitude and Sharia muslim diktat in the United States . Muslims are specifically exempted from the government mandate to purchase insurance, and also from the penalty tax for being uninsured. Islam considers insurance to be “gambling”, “risk-taking” and “usury” and is thus banned. Muslims are specifically granted exemption based on this. How convenient. So I John Smith, as a Christian, will have crippling IRS liens placed against all of my assets, including real estate, cattle, cars and etc. and even accounts receivables, and will face hard prison time because I refuse to buy insurance or pay the penalty tax. Meanwhile, Louis Farrakhan will have no such penalty and will have 100% of his health needs paid for by the de facto government insurance at our expence. Non-muslims will be paying a tax to subsidize muslims. Period. This is Dhimmitude.
Dhimmitude serves two purposes: it enriches the muslim masters AND serves to drive conversions to islam. In this case, the incentive to convert to islam will be taken up by those in the inner-cities as well as the godless Generation X, Y and Z types who have no moral anchor or belief in God! If you don’t believe in Christ to begin with, it is no problem whatsoever to sell Him for 30 pieces of silver. “Sure, I’ll be a muslim if it means free health insurance and no taxes. Where do I sign, brother?” Now all you Obama voters get in line for your free stuff!… However, I suggest you don’t hold your breath!…
I recommend sending this email to all your contacts. This is desperately important and people need to know about it and what the past election has done to all of us!
PS Have you heard about the summit Obama is holding this month in DC for the future Muslim business leaders in the US? He wants to increase their ability to begin business opportunities in the US for the Muslim community! Better start looking for a country that doesn’t cater to the Muslims ~ Austrailia doesn’t because this country will be overrun by Muslims like Europe is currently experiencing.
And you thought our problem was only the illegal Mexicans!……
Dusty
June 29th, 2010
7:53 pm
Well, well, well,
Another tempest in the tiny tea pot of titillate tomes from our Kos Copy Kat. Oh the indignity! The lies! The defamation of Lost by Liberals as presented by our own Jaybird of Judicious Journalism. I could just weep!!
But I don’t have time tonight. The Braves should be on now and I GOTTA GET GOING!!! They were super last night. The wonder boy Strausburg was going to show the Braves a thing or two and he never got past zero. Hudson showed him how to do it. Whoppee! Go Braves!
Now be good. Don’t use any bad words ’cause Paul and Popeye don’t like it. Whoops! That was last night Tonight only AmVet is allowed to use bad words ’cause he doesn’t know any better and couldn’t learn to read until high school. Just like RedNeck, only RedNeck got that far and still can’t read anything but liberal propaganda. And that is poisonous! Look at RedNeck!!!.
stands for decibels
June 29th, 2010
7:53 pm
daiquiri ice cream from B&R.
I hear if the booze doesn’t get you, the peyote will.
TaxPayer
June 29th, 2010
7:53 pm
Hulu is now offering a $10/month service where you can access old teevee shows, complete with commercials, for the realism I suppose. You’ll actually feel as though you were sitting there on your couch watching the original show for the first time. I hear Glenn Beck re-runs are sold out. (Let’s see who picks up on the subtlety in that one.)
josef nix
June 29th, 2010
7:55 pm
SFD
Okay, following you now…no, though, it wasn’t sarcasm…I was serious (well, as serious as I can get)…just now cracked my bottle of vino…was having to be a good little boy for the other screen…that’s done so now I can put my full attention on the more important things in life…
jt
June 29th, 2010
7:55 pm
jt
“You can get them in Norcross.”
But are they empathetic?
That costs extra.
stands for decibels
June 29th, 2010
7:56 pm
The Braves should be on now and I GOTTA GET GOING!!! They were super last night.
Thanks for rubbing it in! (I was counting on the gNats’ phenom to help my Metsies.)
Hey, something several folks here might appreciate: while at the aforementioned Publix this evening, I saw a simple bumper sticker, just black type on a white background, no logo.
Just said “Thanks, Bobby.”
(Cool thing was, I mentioned this to my kid later, and she said “they mean Bobby Cox, right?”)
jt
June 29th, 2010
7:58 pm
Eli Jones
All you have to do is say 6 words,
and you too, can become a muslim.
I’m thinking about it if the Feds come knocking at my door.
stands for decibels
June 29th, 2010
7:59 pm
I recommend sending this email to all your contacts. This is desperately important and people need to know about it and what the past election has done to all of us!
This is very interesting! Please send me your newsletter!
theyeshaveit
June 29th, 2010
7:59 pm
STD, ah, now I see you have graduated from vodka sauce to peyote. And what is Dusty on?
theyeshaveit
June 29th, 2010
8:00 pm
oops. I apologize. A 1000 pardons! SFD not that other thing.
theyeshaveit
June 29th, 2010
8:02 pm
Eli Jones, hmmm. I wonder if he using the Chinese approved version of Google. And why is it that the NRA is getting “exempt status” from Finance Reform?
tm
June 29th, 2010
8:02 pm
Let me see if I underdtand this KOS pay big $$$ to a company to do some polling that is giving him the results that help bring $$$ to his web site and causes. Now he finds out that the reality is that his candidates are going to lose big time in November and he is pissed that his pollling company did find this out earlier. KOS was always quick to make fun and claim bias of other polling companies including Rasmusth(SP?)..KOS is now in a depression because he thought he had amd knew the pulse of the nation. Now he finds out thaqt he has the pulse of a bunch of losers.
stands for decibels
June 29th, 2010
8:02 pm
A 1000 pardons! SFD not that other thing.
Jeez, if I took offense every time someone made that mistake…
well, they’d call me “mike.”
Gonna catch a little baseball on the Teevee.
See ya later, you crazy mindless partisans!
stands for decibels
June 29th, 2010
8:03 pm
one other thing… 6-3 Marlins? WTF?
argh.
josef nix
June 29th, 2010
8:05 pm
jt
I thought it was 11 words…
RW-(the original)
June 29th, 2010
8:07 pm
one other thing… 6-3 Marlins? WTF?
sfd,
I wouldn’t get too excited or worried yet. If the wind is blowing out in San Juan this one might be 15-14 before it’s done.
jt
June 29th, 2010
8:10 pm
josef nix
I wish I could tell you what I think the words are but that might make me one.
You might be correct if you put the “and” in there.
Tell me what you think they are. (you can read them with impunity).
Islam has some good points. I could have used their divource laws about 20 years ago.
Charts and Graphs
June 29th, 2010
8:10 pm
Kyle Wingfield did a piece today to show how the rich pay more than their fair share of taxes. He was very convincing and scored one for the low scoring Republicans.
It was a Pyrrhic victory. His evidence had to allow that 20 percent of the population make 60 percent of the income. That’s a great system for 60 million Americans, and a total system failure for 240 million Americans.
Obama will change the injustice, as he was elected to do by the majority of Voters.
@@
June 29th, 2010
8:12 pm
My question is, does Markos still receive compensation from the Democratic Party? Back when, he bragged that he received somewhere in the neighborhood of $75,000 for doing whatever it is he does. Even claimed the only way he could exert more influence is if he were President, himself.
Moulitsas, bought and paid for by the dems. Of course, Moulitsas sees it differently…according to him, the Democratic Party belongs to him:
“Now it’s our party: we bought it, we own it, and we’re going to take it back.”
Dusty
June 29th, 2010
8:20 pm
Ahhh Braves acting brave!! Go go go !!!
Don’t the rest of you ever have any fun? Stuck here fusssin’ over the Daily Kos! That’s like sitting around thinking of a good recipe for roadkill. Don’t tell Jay I said so. He’s already into the Pepto Bismol!
josef nix
June 29th, 2010
8:25 pm
jt
There is but one G-d, All-h and Mohammad is his prophet…
Islam does have some positive aspects, communal self-reliance and charity being two…just like any other religion, though, it can be hijacked and turned into something completely alien to its message. Sufism is quite interesting to me in that it seeks an ecumenical path.
@@
June 29th, 2010
8:38 pm
A very entertaining blog.
http://www.coyoteblog.com/
Loved some of their “Past Favorites” — 60 Second Refutation of Socialism, While Sitting at the Beach
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
June 29th, 2010
8:40 pm
Well, I see Sister Dusty is into the cheap wine again. You need to drink about a gallon of it to get the buzz she’s got.
Anyway, I was real sorry to learn Larry King’s leaving. He was the best thing to ever happen to Fox News. When his mug comes on, people just flip to Fox and stay there. I ain’t seen such a boring show since Howdy Doody went off the air. I mean, he spends a hour with some drugged-up rocker listening to how his band made records way back then. If we made the Terrists in Gitmo watch his show, they’d spill their guts before they were made to watch another one. And turn in bin Laden too. Meantime, King’s wife is sleeping with the kids’ baseball coach and King is still boring us. I’d rather watch his wife. Who’s with me? Huh?
See you in the a.m. everybody.
Dusty
June 29th, 2010
8:40 pm
@@
Please give Moulitsas all the Democrats. If he says ” we ” bought it, own it and want to take it back, give it to him. And then ship the whole kit & kabootle to Venezuela!!
I mean we need some peace and quiet for awhile. All Dems have not recovered from BushDidIt which has progressed to the virulent state of PerniciousPalinitis. They need a rest. Off to Venezuela!
TaxPayer
June 29th, 2010
8:46 pm
60 Second Refutation of Socialism, While Sitting at the Beach
No ADD issues with their followers. At least I certainly hope not.
Road Scholar
June 29th, 2010
8:49 pm
SPQR @ 6:21: “My crack polling staff has determined …”
From your posts, I thought that you were on drugs!
Good night all.
@@
June 29th, 2010
8:50 pm
It’s funny stuff, Taxpayer. For instance:
Building Codes and Protectionism
June 25, 2010, 12:11 pm
I have written a lot about state licensing typically being more about protecting incumbents from competition than consumer protection. This is a story in a similar vein, where plumbers worked to stop the approval of waterless urinals because they required, well, fewer plumbers to install. In the end, there was a compromise — the plumbers would support waterless urinals in the code, BUT the code would also say that water still had to be piped to the urinals that don’t need water. I kid you not.
This reminds me of when railroads were switching from steam locomotives to diesel. The switch basically obsoleted the job of the fireman, who shoveled coal and kept the fire optimized in the boiler. Faced with extinction, the fireman’s union followed a gutsy strategy — they demanded that diesel locomotives have two firemen instead of one! You see where this is going. Eventually, they compromised at one, so for years, decades even, useless firemen were paid to ride around on locomotives.–Coyote Blog
@@
June 29th, 2010
8:54 pm
Another one:
New Environmental Protection Agency regulations treat spilled milk like oil, requiring farmers to build extra storage tanks and form emergency spill plans.
Local farming advocates says it’s ridiculous to regulate a liquid with a small percentage of butter fat the same way as the now-infamous BP oil spill.
“It’s just another, unnecessary over-regulation by the government just lacking any common sense,” said Bill Robb, dairy educator for Michigan State University Extension…
The EPA regulations state that “milk typically contains a percentage of animal fat, which is a non-petroleum oil. Thus, containers storing milk are subject to the Oil Spill Prevention, Control and Countermeasure Program rule when they meet the applicability criteria…”–Coyote Blog
Pointing out the absurd.
josef nix
June 29th, 2010
8:56 pm
@@
Is there a regulation not to cry over it? ISH
TaxPayer
June 29th, 2010
8:57 pm
You lost me after the first 60 seconds, @@.
NJ
June 29th, 2010
9:02 pm
Not uncommon. I have been involved with hiring marketing companies who did polls who basically decided they were going to find what they believed those who hired them wanted to hear. Or what the elected official wanted to hear.
In one case, I did all of the initial research myself. For the placement of a governmental center. A new one. The idea was to place the building in what would be the demographic center of the population for the next few decades. I located it. However, the political conservatives, the people with money and those with land and businesses in other areas of the county wanted to be able to sell that land to the government at prices that had been inflated by kiting the land back and forth between each other. They hired a marketing firm to do polling and guess what. Initially the marketing firm places the site within a few blocks of where I had. At every step, it was hinted that this was not an “acceptable” location. In the end, the marketing firm discovered exactly what those wealthy property owners wanted. A site ten miles to the east of the demographic center, and miles away from 80 percent of the population.
md
June 29th, 2010
9:03 pm
Eleven words?? Six words?? How about 2 words – I’m Muslim.
Keep up the good fight!
June 29th, 2010
9:06 pm
@@ — really you swallow the government bad line in everything.
There are issues with waterless urinals and maintenance requirements. Just because someone suggests running a water line in case the system does not work does not necessarily mean it is protectionism. Its a lot cheaper to run the line during construction than after construction.
Building codes change slowly for reasons and there are competing interests but it is not more about protectism that consumer protection. Attend a few meetings of a state licensing board and maybe you would understand a little more.
And remember, up until July 2008, anyone and I mean anyone could build a skyscraper in this state or your home. Now we have state contractor licensing. Licensing and codes have a serious consumer protection function.
TaxPayer
June 29th, 2010
9:07 pm
md is Muslim! Why, I never would have guessed from your appearances here.
@@
June 29th, 2010
9:09 pm
You lost me after the first 60 seconds, @@.
ADD?
josef:
That same thought came to my mind when I read it.
I’m outta here.
I know it’s tomorrow, but since I may not be here, I just wanted to wish Thomas Sowell another Happy Birthday.
And to one of my all-time favorite bloggers…
HAPPY BIRTHDAY RW (THE ONE AND ONLY)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Carpet Kitten
June 29th, 2010
9:10 pm
You mean people really read the Daily Kook? My stars. Lots of liberal hate going on in there. Not as bad as Democratunderground however.
Well, it’s Day 70 and the Obama Administration is now going to accept international help. Better late than never, no? Especially since the Dutch already offered once and was rejected.
And then we have Kagan not answering if it’s unconstitutional to have the government to force you what to eat. Now for everyone who whined about the Bush administration eroding personal freedoms, where are you since Democrats have taken over our government?
The amazing world of liberals and Democrats.
Scout
June 29th, 2010
9:10 pm
theyeshaveit :
That’s a separate branch of government. I don’t believe that is what the 10th Amendment meant as the three branches of government are spelled out in the main body of the Constitution.
Keep up the good fight:
Again ……….. “post facto” laws are something that is specifically prohibited.
I am talking about “powers’ NOT delegated to the United States that are reserved to the States.
What would an example of one of “those powers” be that are reserved to the States?
“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”
theyeshaveit
June 29th, 2010
9:13 pm
Someone here has ADD? Who is it? Or maybe you told me, and it somehow slipped my mind. Well, I will pay attention this time…who has ADD?
md
June 29th, 2010
9:13 pm
“md is Muslim! Why, I never would have guessed from your appearances here.”
Nice thing about an anonymous blog, one can be whatever they want at any given moment.
TaxPayer
June 29th, 2010
9:13 pm
@@,
I hope you like knowing whether your drinking water is radioactive or if it is loaded down with MTBE or mercury, etc. As for your house, you would not believe some of the shoddy workmanship I’ve seen building inspectors let slide even when they had code in place that required better. Then again, in many cases it just boils down to the individuals and their standards.
ken R
June 29th, 2010
9:15 pm
Hmmmmm, Kos got caught just like the whacko scientists on global warming got caught. How many more liberal groups out there will get caught. Anyone want any Acorns?
RW-(the original)
June 29th, 2010
9:16 pm
Thanks @@
(IBFH)
md
June 29th, 2010
9:19 pm
Per the religious exemption in the hc bill – it is interesting that it follows the same process when one exempts from SS and Medicare – one waives all rights to future benefits.
So, if one exempts from the hc insurance, and the SCOTUS has ruled that no one may be denied care, how exactly is that one going to work??
RB from Gwinnett
June 29th, 2010
9:21 pm
Gee, the party of no morals lied yet again…..
Yawn….
Keep up the good fight!
June 29th, 2010
9:23 pm
Scout…now dont get your panties in a wad. You asked at 5:45 “Since the U.S. Constitution put limits on the federal government, cite something that it has no constitutional power to do?”
We can agree there is an answer to that question. Now you are changing your question to ask for a power that the federal government cannot do that the state can do. Ummm.. technically the state could under the 10th amendment pass a ex post facto laws however their state constitutions may prohibit.
Ken R — ACORN again? Nut job….can you say doctored tapes?
theyeshaveit
June 29th, 2010
9:24 pm
md, do you have a link to the info on that part of the HC law?
Del
June 29th, 2010
9:25 pm
Josef,
Well here again I’m late on the blog but not too late to stir up trouble. Let’s see many are here, you, Scout, Taxpayer, I didn’t see AmVet, Normal or Popeye, however, I’m sure they will be along. Jay, seems to be worried about Markos Halitosis from the Daily Kos and that media communications far less than accurate polls. I’ll will have to study this condition a little bit further to determine the extent of the damage. Jay, don’t worry you can always do what Obama does best blame Bush and in this instance blame the Daily Kos for their incompetence.
TaxPayer
June 29th, 2010
9:28 pm
Of it’s Bush’s fault. That could go without saying at this point, given it is common knowledge.
theyeshaveit
June 29th, 2010
9:30 pm
And Bush was Bush’s fault, too (George the First).
uhoh
June 29th, 2010
9:32 pm
Are these guys related to the guys that made up the global-warming BS?
theyeshaveit
June 29th, 2010
9:33 pm
uhoh, no. But Bush 1 and Bush 2 are.
Del
June 29th, 2010
9:33 pm
off topic, for all you soccer fans.
Did y’all see where Hector Castro beat his two year old daughter to death because the little girl cried while he was watching a World Cup match down in South Texas.
And the Lib’s cry about gun control
4T9
June 29th, 2010
9:35 pm
I have a problem with almost all polling. They are designed to acheive the results that the person paying for the poll wants to acheive. Daily Kos is very liberal. This is clearly a reflection on the type of journalism they practice. What goes around comes around in the end doesn’t it?
md
June 29th, 2010
9:37 pm
Eyes,
I took it from this snopes link checking the above post:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/exemptions.asp
TaxPayer
June 29th, 2010
9:37 pm
I don’t think a change in gun control laws in Texas would have made any difference in that matter. Then again, who knows with those Texas conservatives.
md
June 29th, 2010
9:38 pm
Polling is like an anonymous blog – one can say whatever the heck they want with very little retribution.
josef nix
June 29th, 2010
9:40 pm
md
Oh, no! That md…I should have known…it’s that Muslim abbreviation to keep from writing his name…your name’s Mohammad…
Del…
Popeye? Oh, je crois qu’il est ici. Tu sais qu’il change son nom chaque poste…il a un problème avec son idéntité!
I think Normal’s stuffing his face about now! Bless his heart…
AmVet’s been in and out…
Good to see ya, though…reckon we can rile the Bruin? Maybe if mike comes in…?
TaxPayer
June 29th, 2010
9:42 pm
Decisions, decisions. Should I buy more KMB for my dividend stock portfolio or maybe add some BDX or…
Scout
June 29th, 2010
9:44 pm
Keep up the good fight!
I hear you but I am not sure that fits the bill either. States couldn’t pass those either because they can’t violate individual rights under the U.S. Constitution. States can be less retrictive on individual rights but not more.
I’m not trying to trick you. I’m just trying to find a concrete example.
Hillbilly Deluxe
June 29th, 2010
9:49 pm
This n that
On the spilled milk regulations: Why not get a few thousand cats out of the shelter and let them clean it up. It’s a win-win for everybody.
On building codes and inspections: Many years ago when I worked construction it went like this, if it was an inspector that liked my boss, he’d drive up, fill out his little paper work and sign off without ever getting out of his vehicle. If it was an inspector who didn’t like my boss, he’d spend 3 hours picking it to death. Somehow, I doubt that’s changed much.
The blog sure has wandered around tonight. When I left to go to the garden for a while, I was fully expecting to come back and find that Hawaii had seceeded and somebody was wanting to raise an army to go invade them.
mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack the Liar Obama - BEND OVER, Here comes the CHANGE!
June 29th, 2010
9:49 pm
Why is this a story? You are really reaching lately. Of course you wouldn’t want to do a piece on the inept Liar in Chief – that would be against your views. mmmm, mmm, mmm…so one term.
md
June 29th, 2010
9:51 pm
“Should I buy more KMB for my dividend stock portfolio or maybe add some BDX or…”
Tip – Verizon to sell iphones starting next year……..combine that with the “me” generation and walla….
Del
June 29th, 2010
9:54 pm
All too tame tonight…hope Jay works things out with Markos Halitosis. Taps y’all
Carpet Kitten
June 29th, 2010
9:58 pm
“It was a Pyrrhic victory. His evidence had to allow that 20 percent of the population make 60 percent of the income. That’s a great system for 60 million Americans, and a total system failure for 240 million Americans. Obama will change the injustice, as he was elected to do by the majority of Voters.”
Hey charts and graphs: the bottom 50% of income earners pay 3% of all income tax and that’s all you got? But anyway, hate to break you the late news to ya, but Obama ran as a moderate, not as a radical leftist tax-deficit spend liberal has he (and Democrats in congress) is now. Moderates elected Obama (and Democrats in congress), not liberals. You wanna know how I know that? Because only 28% of the population identifies themselves as liberal. You do the math on what’s going to happen starting this November with Harry Reid – who can only look to fund raising help from outside his state (lmao). You wanna piss off the majority electorate? Just raise taxes.
“Polling is like an anonymous blog – one can say whatever the heck they want with very little retribution.”
Actually, md, polling is more about loaded questions to get a specific answer. About the only two polls I trust are from Gallup and Rasmussen, but of which show Obama and the Democrat-run Congress well below 50% in approval ratings. I trust blog and media polling about as much as a hyena.
‘Nite.
TaxPayer
June 29th, 2010
10:03 pm
md,
I have a very small position in VZ. A hundred shares. I also have a 100 shares each of COP, KMB, HCP, NLY, UPS, WM, and MSFT plus a few others. They make up my dividend stock portfolio. I have been keeping an eye out when the market takes these dips to see if it is time to add something. I figure I’m just as well off doing that as I would be by parking money in a money market or CD.
Scout
June 29th, 2010
10:09 pm
SO IT’S COME TO THIS ………….
Headline: “School Officials Won’t Let Students Recite Pledge of Allegiance”
“When Sean Harrington entered his freshman year at Arlington High School, he noticed something peculiar: There were no American flags in the classrooms, and no one recited the Pledge of Allegiance. So Harrington enlisted the aid of his fellow students, and now, three years later, they have succeeded in getting flags installed in the classrooms. But the pledge still will not be recited.”
“The Arlington, Mass., school committee has rejected the 17-year-old’s request to allow students to voluntarily recite the Pledge of Allegiance, because some educators are concerned that it would be hard to find teachers willing to recite it, according to a report in the Arlington Patch.”
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/06/29/ma-school-officials-wont-let-students-recite-pledge-allegiance/?test=latestnews
Del
June 29th, 2010
10:13 pm
One last post, did y’all see Pete Stark Democrat California, go Stark raving mad during a town hall meeting declaring that the borders are secure, while his constituents cat called him. What an A-hole.
John Galt Jr.
June 29th, 2010
10:14 pm
Who’s worried about polls when the stock market is hitting new lows for the year and the emperor is now nude for the whole world to see. Best the that has happened for conservatism in 100 years was electing this clown. November is coming. Damn the polls.
md
June 29th, 2010
10:14 pm
“Actually, md, polling is more about loaded questions to get a specific answer. ”
I should have clarified my statement – I was referring to those polled and their responses vs the poll itself. Just because one responds to a poll does not mean that is how one truly feels – all part of the “game”.
md
June 29th, 2010
10:16 pm
TP,
Sounds like a plan……and at this point one is as good as another……..or maybe better.
TaxPayer
June 29th, 2010
10:17 pm
Is California still having a problem with its northern border. Those danged Oregonians. There ought to be a law against them.
Del
June 29th, 2010
10:20 pm
TaxPayer,
Damned right, lets boycott the S.O.B.’s
josef nix
June 29th, 2010
10:35 pm
When I lived in Washington, there was a billboard popular throughout the area, “Don’t Californicate Washington.” Oregon put up some that said, “Californians! Welcome to Oregon. Spend your money and go home.” Reminded me of home!
theyeshaveit
June 29th, 2010
10:39 pm
josef, ah but in California there used to be a bumper sticker that read, “Welcome to California, when you leave, take someone with you.”
theyeshaveit
June 29th, 2010
10:41 pm
Well, if there is anyone left here, I wish you a good night. Time for me to say “adios”.
josef nix
June 29th, 2010
10:50 pm
eyes
Heard one from Arizona, “Would the last person leaving Tucson please turn out the lights…”
And with that, I, too will turn out the lights. Timekeeper? I’m punching out now…no need to fill out overtime papers today…
Bud Wiser
June 29th, 2010
11:03 pm
Another media wag duped by a pollster.
I’m shocked.
AmVet
June 29th, 2010
11:14 pm
All men are bored with other men’s lives.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gXuBRMtU2A
miagi
June 29th, 2010
11:25 pm
shock.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo9riZYUpTw
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
June 30th, 2010
4:52 am
Eager to salvage one of President Barack Obama’s legislative priorities, lawmakers replaced the bank fee with money generated by ending the $700 billion bank bailout and by increasing bank premiums on deposit insurance. -Urinal
Eager?
ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!
Anyway, you have to admire our little soap opera, The Way the Urinal Spins, and their propaganda engorgements, the only thing Scott Brown et al are “eager” to do is STOP SPENDING ALL THE PEOPLE’S FREAKING MONEY, I don’t even think that obozo’s “priorities” entered his mind, just sayin…
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
June 30th, 2010
5:00 am
Chicago Mayor Richard Daley will push for a strict handgun ordinance to replace its doomed gun ban that will likely include limiting each resident to a single handgun, requiring gun owners to have insurance and prohibiting gun stores from setting up shop in the city, his top lawyer said Tuesday.-Urinal
Yeah, one gun is all you need, we will get into specific models later, but for now a .45 semi loaded with 260 grain hollow points would be an excellent choice.
Now watch the Chicago crime rate plummet and the libs look like jacka$$es, just sayin…
Norman
June 30th, 2010
5:59 am
Some sort of opinion manipulation resulted in McCain getting the republican nomination. Liberals knew McCain would be satisfactory substitute liberal if they lost. Four years prior I answered a little political test of republicans and McCain came out dead last according to my answers. In 2008 every little quiz I tried showed McCain ahead by a large margin and I had not changed my opinions in between. Huckabee and Romney were the only two republicans I would even have considered. I voted in the democratic primary to stop Hillary and a day doesn’t pass that I don’t regret voting for Obama before I voting against Obama.
A CONSERVATIVE
June 30th, 2010
6:12 am
JAY….Out here in the boon-docks…south of “sophisticated” Atlanta…we know 99-percent of POLLs are cooked to reflect the Left-wing agenda of the Media..
Doggone/GA
June 30th, 2010
6:52 am
“we know 99-percent of POLLs are cooked ”
Get that number from a poll you took…hmmm?
USinUK
June 30th, 2010
6:53 am
“Some sort of opinion manipulation resulted in McCain getting the republican nomination”
pssssssssst … don’t anyone tell Norman about the caucaus system where McCain beat Mittens, Huckabee and Ron Paul …
Delegate count:
McCain – 1,378
Huckabee – 240
Mittens – 148
Paul – 14
USinUK
June 30th, 2010
6:55 am
Doggone – I don’t know about you, but when I cook a poll, I like to saute it with a little garlic, then, before serving, deglaze the pan with a splash of balsamic vinegar …
mmmmmmm … fresly cooked polls …
Doggone/GA
June 30th, 2010
6:56 am
USinUK – me? I prefer a brown sugar glaze, most polls need as much sweetening as they can get!
stands for decibels
June 30th, 2010
7:01 am
we know 99-percent of POLLs are cooked
and WE speak of OURSELVES…in the THIRD PERSON…because it is COOL… almost as COOL AS ALL-CAPS and ELLYPS…EE-LIPs…
THEM THREE DOTSIES THINGIES…
TaxPayer
June 30th, 2010
7:06 am
Don’t be makin’ fun of the three dotsie thingies or else I might get excited and go ALL-CAPS.
USinUK
June 30th, 2010
7:09 am
db – you forgot inappropriate use of hyphens …
and, I’m with Taxpayer – no pokin fun of the three-dotsies!! I’ll bust an all-caps on your a$$
stands for decibels
June 30th, 2010
7:15 am
Don’t be makin’ fun of the three dotsie thingies
My favorite punctuation offender here hasn’t figured out that his text editor is auto-correcting his dotsie-thingies, so he keeps on hitting the periods over and over again, to the point where he virtually always screws up and dumps nine (9) dots to separate each and every one of his… Deep… Thoughts.
DEEP THROAT
June 30th, 2010
7:15 am
Come on Jay, tell us how its Bush’s fault these polls are faulty. You have already taken your stab at the GOP, you just hate the GOP don’t you, such a hypocrite aren’t cha.
Normal
June 30th, 2010
7:20 am
Good Morning all…(three dotsies, so there
)
Someone posted Mark Twains quote on stats… (whoops, again)
The whole quote is thus… (Dang, I can’t stop)
“Figures often beguile me, particularly when I have the arranging of them myself; in which case the remark attributed to Disraeli would often apply with justice and force: “There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics.”