U.S. Sen. Robert C. Byrd, a story of America

No senator left a more visible legacy in his native state than the late Robert Byrd of West Virginia. He was from Sophia, my father is from nearby Mount Hope, and everywhere you go in that part of the country you see signs proclaiming “Robert Byrd this” and “Robert Byrd that.”

“West Virginia has always had four friends,” Byrd once said, “God Almighty, Sears Roebuck, Carter’s Liver Pills, and Robert C. Byrd.”

Citizens Against Government Waste lists, among other West Virginia projects, the Robert C. Byrd Locks and Dam, Robert C. Byrd Green Bank Telescope, Robert C. Byrd Drive, Robert C. Byrd Federal Correctional Institution, Robert C. Byrd Center for Hospitality and Tourism and of course the Robert C. Byrd Hardwood Technologies Center.

In effect orphaned at age 1, raised as the foster son of a miner in a home with neither electricity nor running water, Byrd’s story was an American story, from his dalliance with the KKK to his early endorsement of Barack Obama as president.

His proudest vote, he said, was that opposing military action in Iraq. Time has proven him prescient on that matter.

“If the United States leads the charge to war in the Persian Gulf, we may get lucky and achieve a rapid victory,” he warnd in 2003. “But then we will face a second war: a war to win the peace in Iraq. This war will last many years and will surely cost hundreds of billions of dollars. In light of this enormous task, it would be a great mistake to expect that this will be a replay of the 1991 war. The stakes are much higher in this conflict.”

That speech thoroughly refutes the claim of apologists today that no one could have known what the occupation of Iraq would be like. Byrd knew, as did others, but his warning fell on ears deafened to everything but the cry for war.

Over the years, people would often note Byrd’s knowledge of and affection for subjects such as Shakespeare, the Bible and Roman history, which he often mined for citations and allegoriess. But few understood that his deep immersion in such sources was the product of a poor boy’s striving to educate himself, a 19th century mindset that he shared with Abraham Lincoln, among others.

You could say that an era ended with his death this morning at age 92, but in reality his era ended a generation ago, maybe even a century ago, and Robert Carlyle Byrd was its last surviving dinosaur.

324 comments Add your comment

stands for decibels

June 28th, 2010
7:45 am

jconservative

June 28th, 2010
7:51 am

I recall a statement from a fellow Senator who had experienced his rath that Byrd was a gentleman, but kept a razor in his shoe.

MiltonMan

June 28th, 2010
7:51 am

Jay, nice job on sugar-coating this one. “Dalliance with the KKK…”??? The loon spent 10 years in the “organization” on went on record numerous times speaking of ill-will towards other races.

ty webb

June 28th, 2010
7:53 am

“dalliance”?…really? Does Oxyclean damage a computer when poured onto a keyboard?

Normal

June 28th, 2010
7:54 am

“An end of an era” is correct. Not necessarily a good era, but is now a part of our American history. What will we lwarn from this? One thing I will give to Senator Byrd, he was good at bringing home the bacon. He never forgot what it was like to be poor, and for good or bad, he was a product of his environment and era.

Outhouse GoKart

June 28th, 2010
7:55 am

In observance of the death of the once Great Grand Cyclops, Robert Byrd, The NAACP has decided to take the day off.

Gale

June 28th, 2010
7:55 am

The last sentence says it best.

MiltonMan

June 28th, 2010
7:56 am

Doggone/GA

June 28th, 2010
7:57 am

“Jay, nice job on sugar-coating this one.”

“Last week, Byrd said: “I know now I was wrong. Intolerance had no place in America. I apologized a thousand times . . . and I don’t mind apologizing over and over again. I can’t erase what happened.”"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/18/AR2005061801105_3.html

Outhouse GoKart

June 28th, 2010
7:57 am

Roy Barnes could learn a lesson or two from Mr Byrd regarding proper lipstick application.

Gator Joe

June 28th, 2010
7:58 am

Jay,
What I admired most about Senator Byrd, and there is much to admire, was overcomming his personal bigotry and overcomming his ignorance about racism and intolerance. That is a powerful example and lesson for all of us.

Outhouse GoKart

June 28th, 2010
7:59 am

The Repulicans could learn a lesson from the Grand Cyclops, Mr Byrd. As long as one apologizes and is of DEMOCRATIC party persuation and does a lil booty kissin then all is forgiven.

Otherwise you MUST BE FIRED from your job.

stands for decibels

June 28th, 2010
8:00 am

As to how when Byrd’s seat will be replaced by someone who’s won an election (as opposed to being appointed by the WV Governor) there seems to be a little confusion out there about exactly when that’s to happen…

West Virgina Democratic governor Joe Manchin will appoint an interim successor for Byrd once a vacancy is declared. The question is what happens after November. Yesterday, we identified the relevant West Virginia statute, which stipulates that when a Senate vacancy occurs more than two years and sixth months prior to the end of a Senator’s term, a special election will be held at the upcoming general election to select the candidate’s successor. Because Byrd passed away this morning — two years, six months and six days prior to the end of his current term on January 3, 2013 — that would seem to imply the likelihood of an election later this year. Democrats might not be favored in such an election, although their odds would be buoyed if Manchin, a popular incumbent who will be term-limited in 2012, decided to run for the seat himself.

Although most other outlets, including the Associated Press and The Hill, have come to the same reading of West Virginia’s succession laws as we have, a few others have come to a different conclusion; presumably this will become clearer over the course of the day.

Note also that a vacancy has not been declared yet. West Virginia’s statutes for U.S. House seats actually provide the governor with a 10-day window to declare a vacancy — however, it is not clear that the same procedure applies for U.S. Senate seats.

My money would be on the election being held sooner rather than later.

Rightwing Troll

June 28th, 2010
8:01 am

Why are all you current Klan members giving the man a hard time for being a Klan member 40 years ago? Are you disappointed he abandoned your cause, and later apologized for his actions?

stands for decibels

June 28th, 2010
8:01 am

crud, sorry, forgot to close the tag @ 8.00

here’s the link.

professional skeptic

June 28th, 2010
8:02 am

Regrettably, history was never my stong point. I’ll have to consult with my brother on “dalliance.” Not that I don’t trust you, Jay… I just have to live up to my pseudonym. :)

Rightwing Troll

June 28th, 2010
8:03 am

When we see a Republican apologize for something, anything, we’ll see how that works out…

MiltonMan

June 28th, 2010
8:03 am

Jay, I would like to see your wonderful write-up about Strom Thurmond when he passed away. Never mind – Strom was a (R); the wonderful Byrd was a (D).

Outhouse GoKart

June 28th, 2010
8:05 am

“Strom was a (R); the wonderful Byrd was a (D).”

D vs R…thats the difference right there. These lib-tards wanna give their fellow democratic klan members a pass but no such luck for the republican klan members.

Ah yes…hypocrisy is a democractic party cornerstone.

MiltonMan

June 28th, 2010
8:06 am

Rightwing Troll’s definition of history: If you are a liberal basically do whatever you want as long as you apologize at some point and all is forgotten.

Doggone/GA

June 28th, 2010
8:09 am

“These lib-tards wanna give their fellow democratic klan members a pass but no such luck for the republican klan members.”

Strom Thrumond was a KKK member? That news to me. I suspect it would be news to him, too…if he was still alive.

Jay

June 28th, 2010
8:09 am

The KKK flirtation was actually more than 60 years ago, Troll.

Byrd’s transition over that period of time was also the nation’s transition, and the effort to drape his corpse with the robes of the KKK is an act of desperate, resentful denial.

Bud Wiser

June 28th, 2010
8:10 am

The KKK will miss their former Grand Wizard, as will the ignorant slobs in the WVa mountains who elected this fool to have him serve the longest in Senate history.

At least he didn’t leave some poor girl to drown a horrible death in his car…..

Doggone/GA

June 28th, 2010
8:11 am

“the effort to drape his corpse with the robes of the KKK is an act of desperate, resentful denial”

Even to the point of trying to drape the corpse of Stom Thrumond in the same robes.

USinUK

June 28th, 2010
8:11 am

MiltonMan – given that Strom never showed any regret for his racist past – even to the point of denying the existence of a mixed-race daughter – the differences go WAY beyond (R) and (D).

but, nice try.

Glenn Beck

June 28th, 2010
8:11 am

Bob Byrd was solely responsible for racism and slavery in America.

His sole accomplishment was his membership in the Klan.

Outhouse GoKart

June 28th, 2010
8:12 am

On another note…who all saw the Sat Night VH1 documentary on RUSH?!!

Pretty tasty morsel if I must say so. Alex Lifeson one of the most underrated, overlooked guitarist of all time.

Hemispheres…one of their best.
2112…Gooooood Cracker!

USinUK

June 28th, 2010
8:12 am

“desperate, resentful denial”

Jay, have you MET the GOP recently??? criminey, talk about the perfect 3-word summary.

Outhouse GoKart

June 28th, 2010
8:13 am

Doggone/GA

June 28th, 2010
8:09 am

I never said Strum was. Reading is fundamental.

Outhouse GoKart

June 28th, 2010
8:13 am

Doggone/GA

June 28th, 2010
8:09 am

I never said Strum was. Reading is fundamental.

USinUK

June 28th, 2010
8:13 am

OGK – have had the priveledge of seeing them live about 4 times – even now, they put on one helluva show.

Outhouse GoKart

June 28th, 2010
8:15 am

UK…nice!! Would love to have seen them in the hayday. Alas, I missed out again… :(

Doggone/GA

June 28th, 2010
8:15 am

“I never said Strum was. Reading is fundamental.”

It certainly is. Might I suggest you go back a read YOUR OWN post? Here, I’ll make it easy for you:

You quoted this: “Strom was a (R); the wonderful Byrd was a (D).”

And then you replied: “These lib-tards wanna give their fellow democratic klan members a pass but no such luck for the republican klan members.”

Want to try again to convince those of us who CAN read that you didn’t call Thurmond a clan memeber?

stands for decibels

June 28th, 2010
8:17 am

To be honest, my early-morning scan of the dead-Byrd news had me looking at the WaPo and Fox links to their respective obits.

WaPo made reference to his Klan membership in the forth graf; Fox had it buried way lower.

professional skeptic

June 28th, 2010
8:18 am

MiltonMan
June 28th, 2010
8:03 am

Until I fill in the gaps of my knowledge of Byrd’s earlier years to learn more about what distinguishes the two distinguished Senators, I’m afraid MM, and even Outhouse may have a point.

(I think I’ll shoot Eva Galambos an email to tell her pigs are flying.)

Outhouse GoKart

June 28th, 2010
8:18 am

No where did I state Strom was a member. My statement refered to Rep members of which I would imagine there are some…perhaps not.

I suggest you go back and read again…MISTER!

USinUK

June 28th, 2010
8:20 am

OGK – let’s see … saw Moving Pictures … Signals … Presto and one other one in 2005 (don’t remember the name of the album – all covers) … unfortunately, the one in 2005 was at an outdoor venue that had accoustics so bad that, if I wasn’t able to pick up the tell-tale riff, I wouldn’t have had the foggiest what song they were playing.

was surrounded by guys playing air guitar – to a person, they reminded me of my friends from high school …

Jay

June 28th, 2010
8:20 am

I’ll add that my grandfather, perhaps half a generation older than Byrd but a product of the same time and place, was also a KKK member. I never met the man — he died when my father was just a kid — but my older uncles recalled seeing his robes in the closet.

@@

June 28th, 2010
8:21 am

50 YEARS!!??!!

…and we wonder what’s wrong UP THERE on THE HILL!!!!!!

ty webb

June 28th, 2010
8:21 am

“the differences go WAY beyond (R) and (D).”

correctamundo! one was in the KKK, the other was not. Both were, however, democrats during their lifetimes.

Doggone/GA

June 28th, 2010
8:22 am

“Stop it Doggone, just stop it. How dare you try to hold one of the local teatards accountable for thier own words.”

But it’s so much fun watching them try to say their own words DON’T say what they DO say!

USinUK

June 28th, 2010
8:22 am

“Both were, however, democrats during their lifetimes.”

so was Reagan.

Outhouse GoKart

June 28th, 2010
8:24 am

“was surrounded by guys playing air guitar”

LOL…oh gosh…I think we all did such at one time or the other. Looking back…how embarrassing and insulting to guitarists everywhere.

I recall an hilarious/pitiful video from the forgetable “Journey” doing one of their songs with the entire band going “air”. It was just sad.

professional skeptic

June 28th, 2010
8:24 am

USinUK
June 28th, 2010
8:11 am

Thanks USinUK. If one sought atonement and the other did not, that helps me draw a distinction.

Now to get off MARTA to enjoy a day full of meetings. Everybody, have a good one.

Doggone/GA

June 28th, 2010
8:26 am

“If one sought atonement and the other did not, that helps me draw a distinction”

I would say that Byrd not only sought atonement, that he MADE it as well.

Normal

June 28th, 2010
8:27 am

Happy Monday morning USinUK,

Sorry about USA and England losses. I was just starting to get interested too.

USinUK

June 28th, 2010
8:27 am

OGK – go to You Tube.

Look up “wind it up”

then laugh.

stands for decibels

June 28th, 2010
8:27 am

who all saw the Sat Night VH1 documentary on RUSH?!!

First reaction: THAT Rush?

Second reaction: Being how VH1’s stock in trade has been documentaries about well-known personalities who lie about being currently clean, it wouldn’t be such a programming stretch…

Curious Observer

June 28th, 2010
8:28 am

I was 10 years old when Robert C. Byrd came seeking votes during his initial Congressional campaign at the little (100 members) Baptist church in the 300-resident community where I grew up. He was like the rest of us–educationally deprived, poverty-stricken, and poisoned almost at birth by the virulent racism that pervaded the area. To many in that region, voting against Robert C. Byrd would have been like voting against a member of your immediate family.

And Jay is right. It’s difficult to drive even 20 miles in that state without seeing a sign for the Robert C. Byrd this or the Robert C. Byrd that. He even used his power to force a move of the Bureau of Public Debt, the arm of government that handles government securities, including savings bonds, to the state. The state is poor enough as it is; it’s hard to imagine what it would be like without the power of Robert C. Byrd.

Say what you will about him. Bring up his early one-year membership in the Klan—a move he’s regretted for decades, and he said it would be in his obituary (it is this morning.) Bring up his opposition to the Civil Rights Act and his opposition to forced busing to achieve desegration. He was a child of his times.

But Robert C. Byrd will be remembered for achievements long after some of you take your petty hatreds to a soon-forgotten grave. Many of his achievements came without the benefit of extensive formal education and powerful sponsorships. He didn’t start earning his law degree and later a bachelor’s degree until he was well into his Congressional service. Like many in his state at the time, he couldn’t afford college at the time he graduated high school. I’m willing to let his maker be his judge.

The sad part is that the legacy of racism and resentment remains in his native state. I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see a Republican elected as his permanent replacement.

Doggone/GA

June 28th, 2010
8:31 am

CC – Byrd was actually a Klan member for 10 years, not 1

AmVet

June 28th, 2010
8:31 am

OGK, damn, man. I would have like to have seen that. And yes, that trio is one of the very most talented in the entire genre. I remember when that debut album came out. For a lot of people they really did become the new standard bearers of intelligent, sophisticated rock…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q56YLK0D38I&feature=related

stands, thanks for that link. A clear and compelling indictment of the Bush Crusades and the deadly madness of Ready, Fire, Aim.

Byrd was a throwback in more ways than one. He clearly was exceptionally bright, well read and adaptable – characteristics not much favored in some quarters these days.

The worst of today’s unread Republican reactionaries that hijacked a Once Grand Old Party, prefer imperialism through war, permanent mule headedness and McCarthy-like, misguided 1950s intolerance. Yes, they cloak their demagoguery in flowery language like “American exceptionalism”, and countelss other inane bumper sticker talking points.

But most people see through the nonsense and know all it means is that we faux conservatives do not apologize. EVER. Nor do we even acknowledge our innumerable missteps, mistakes and misinformation.

It is the rhetoric of small men…

Jay

June 28th, 2010
8:32 am

I suspect in their hearts, some of Byrd’s critics resent him not because he had once been a member of the KKK, but because he had repudiated its message so completely later in life.

Normal

June 28th, 2010
8:32 am

I remember while in school in south Georgia in the very early ’60s,
that during the monthly 4-H Club meeting in the school gym, a Klan member would give a speech extoling the virtues of the KKK and try to recruit us young’ns. It was a great time to take a nap…

Doggone/GA

June 28th, 2010
8:33 am

“but because he had repudiated its message so completely later in life.”

Amen!

USinUK

June 28th, 2010
8:33 am

Normal –

don’t.

just don’t.

England’s performance was cringe-worthy (the commentators described it as “shambolic”) … they should be made to walk home.

However, there was one bright spot during the weekend – Biggin Hill had its annual air show – we could see some of it from my mother-in-laws, so saw a number of jets and the Red Arrows (England’s version of the Blue Angels) … no Spitfires or Lancasters, though :-(

david wayne osedach

June 28th, 2010
8:34 am

RIP Senator Byrd. You did an outstanding lifelong job.

USinUK

June 28th, 2010
8:35 am

Jay – doesn’t matter. just as it doesn’t matter that Jane Fonda has done the same.

they would rather hate, regardless of the regret and apologies they have given, it just saves time.

Normal

June 28th, 2010
8:37 am

His proudest vote, he said, was that opposing military action in Iraq. Time has proven him prescient on that matter.

I will always give him his due for that.

Doggone/GA

June 28th, 2010
8:39 am

Normal…there’s more to it than just a no vote. I will always be proud that I came to the same conclusion in MY opposition that a MOST distinguished constitutional scholar did: “Congress had shown a willingness to “hand over, for the foreseeable future, its constitutional power to declare war,” he wrote in “Losing America: Confronting a Reckless and Arrogant Presidency” (Norton, 2004). “

Jay

June 28th, 2010
8:40 am

USnUK, I have to admit, I haven’t entirely forgiven Jane for that one either.

Outhouse GoKart

June 28th, 2010
8:41 am

Avet…cruise the channel listings for VH1. My guess is it will be on again sometime this week during the evening hour. I ve got Hemispheres in my Auto CD player now and have Fly By Night on CD – Anthem, goood cracker – thinking about purchasing “RUSH”, “Caress of Steel” and “2112″ on cd…wanna round out the collection so to speak.

“madness of Ready, Fire, Aim.” LOL!!

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TaxPayer

June 28th, 2010
8:46 am

Did someone say a Republican admitted to making a mistake… to being wrong about something! Where! When! I don’t believe it.

Granny Godzilla

June 28th, 2010
8:47 am

Robert Byrd – a prodigal son.
May he Rest in Peace

ty webb

June 28th, 2010
8:48 am

by God I think I’ve got it now. Thanks Jay.

Be a former member of the KKK=victim of the environment
Don’t want former klansman’s past sugarcoated=racist.

Steve

June 28th, 2010
8:50 am

Jay…
Robert Byrd was a complicated man who served in the senate for a long time. He has been both right and wrong during that long, long service. Long service often exposes contradictory positons which are sincerely held. Sometimes it exposes political opportunism that is expressed in “flexibility”.

However, you do no service to history by hiding it.

When Truman acted to integrate the armed forces Byrd said that I wlll never fight “with a Negro by my side. Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.”

He wrote to the Klan’s Imperial Wizard in 1946: “The Klan is needed today as never before and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia.”

“Dalliance” describes Byrd’s association with the Klan in the same way that “problematic” describes the gulf oil spill.

Byrd filibustered the Civil Rights Act in 1964 and voted aginst it as well.

Only democrats are allowed to repudiate previous positons.

In recent years he actively supported using the fillibuster freely to stop judicial nominations… a position that is likely to be pretty unpoplular with the left…shortly.

Outhouse GoKart

June 28th, 2010
8:50 am

“Did someone say a Republican admitted to making a mistake”

That republican must have been mistaken. ;)

Jay

June 28th, 2010
8:51 am

Sorry Ty.

You’ve got a little more thinking to do.

Outhouse GoKart

June 28th, 2010
8:52 am

“a prodigal son.

oh brother…

Doggone/GA

June 28th, 2010
8:53 am

“You’ve got a little more thinking to do.”

I’m still trying to figure out who has been “sugarcoating” Byrd’s association with the KKK? Seems to me that, so far, it’s been quite freely admitted.

Normal

June 28th, 2010
8:54 am

As one who was there, I say that Jane Fonda has been screwed, blued and tattooed over that for long enough. She was just a part of the general attitude of the war by our young people. She said she was sorry and I forgave her. It’s time to get over it.

USinUK

June 28th, 2010
8:55 am

Normal – well said – I was about to say something similar, but you said it so much better :-)

ty webb

June 28th, 2010
8:55 am

Jay,
so how long did you “think” before using the word “dalliance”?

popeye

June 28th, 2010
8:57 am

Normal

June 28th, 2010
8:54 am

I agree 100%….

Jay

June 28th, 2010
8:58 am

I stand by that word, in the context of a 92-year life, Ty.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

June 28th, 2010
8:58 am

Well, it’s just too bad Byrd went against his raising later in life. He might of been a good person if he had of stuck to his guns. We might of named him a Ornery Southrener. Heck, he could of made a good Republican. Now he’ll just be remembered as another librul Democrat. I’ve already forgot him.

Have a good day everybody.

Normal

June 28th, 2010
8:58 am

Steve

June 28th, 2010
8:50 am

I’m not sure how old you are, but that was the way it was back then. Jim Crow in full force. Times change and people change. He too, said he was sorry and I forgave him, why can’t you?

TaxPayer

June 28th, 2010
9:00 am

Seems that the ones that try hardest to hide things in the closet are the Republicans.

Doggone/GA

June 28th, 2010
9:00 am

“so how long did you “think” before using the word “dalliance”?”

I do not think that word means what you think it means. Since “wasting time” is one of the definitions of the it’s root word “dally” – it’s not inappropriate.

Outhouse GoKart

June 28th, 2010
9:02 am

“She was just a part of the general attitude of the war by our young people.”

She was naive yes, however, some of the things she did against the military were deplorable, especially to the POWs.

She was naive yes, much like the youngsters who voted for Obama and are now receiving a lesson with regard to “a deceiver in sheeps clothing”.

USinUK

June 28th, 2010
9:04 am

Doggone – you forget – the GOP believes that the language is VERY flexible … so much so, that you can have a “youthful indescretion” in your 40s.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/special/starr/starr064.htm

Doggone/GA

June 28th, 2010
9:06 am

“the GOP believes that the language is VERY flexible”

and it SO annoys them when you point out their mistakes!

USinUK

June 28th, 2010
9:09 am

doggone – I do, however, understand their point in that “dalliance” connotes a brief interest rather than a 10-year activity.

ty webb

June 28th, 2010
9:09 am

Usinuk
“Doggone – you forget – the GOP believes that the language is VERY flexible … so much so, that you can have a “youthful indescretion” in your 40s.”

Is “depends what your definition of is is” also an example of “flexible” language?

USinUK

June 28th, 2010
9:10 am

ty – you should have used “I didn’t have sex with that woman” … would have been a better example.

ty webb

June 28th, 2010
9:14 am

Just about all of these guy’s(both parties) are lawyers. “flexible” language is a “tool of the trade”.

Normal

June 28th, 2010
9:14 am

GAAAA! I have a blood test tomorrow that I have to fast for and my doctor just imformed me that it was set back three hours. I won’t be able to eat until after one. Crap, crap, crap!!!!

NowReally

June 28th, 2010
9:15 am

It doesn’t matter if they believe in the mantra of the “D” or an “R”; when it comes to their political rhetoric. I just hope a few more bigots make peace with themselves, before they meet their maker.

mike

June 28th, 2010
9:15 am

“Byrd’s story was an American story, from his dalliance with the KKK to his early endorsement of Barack Obama as president”

Sorry Jay, being an “Exalted Cyclops” of the Klan is more than a “dalliance”.

How typical of Jay to whitewash a true racist as long as he has a D in front of his name. Jay’s “morals” are simple excuses to attack people who don’t share his silly and rigid ideology.

Just me

June 28th, 2010
9:16 am

Byrd was an old fool and a comical figure his last 10-15 years in the Senate. In his “lengthy” career he had no accomplishments other than getting pork for his hillbilly constituents. He was very similar to Jimmy Carter in many ways. I’m sure his passing is a loss to his family, but it is no loss to the U.S. gtovernment.

larry

June 28th, 2010
9:17 am

Well, i fell off my chair…………..me and OGK has something in common.

Been a fan of RUSH since the Hemispheres album, which I still have on vinyl.
I will be there in Alpharetta in September to see them in concert.

And when their documentary comes out tommorrow, Best Buy has a special of a t-shirt and the
documentary for $19.99.

Ill try to get back in my chair now.

mike

June 28th, 2010
9:19 am

Oh and the other thing: the Iraq War will be remembered as a military and geopolitical victory. I don’t blame Jay for wanting to keep bleating that the war was a failure. That has more to do with his silly partisanship and his embarrassment about coming out so forcefully against the surge in Iraq that has proven to be such a historic success. Maybe when Jay mans up and admits how wrong he was about the surge, he can sneer at the analysis of others. Until that time, he is just another armchair general who can’t admit when he is wrong, no matter how much evidence there is to the contrary.

@@

June 28th, 2010
9:22 am

At the end of a week in which he dismissed his top commander in Afghanistan, Obama defended his war strategy and said the United States would assist the Afghans “for a long time to come.”

“I don’t have a crystal ball,” the president said when asked about a five-year Afghanistan exit strategy endorsed Saturday by the Group of Eight major industrial democracies.

“I think that right now the debate surrounding Afghanistan is presented as either we get up and leave immediately because there’s no chance at a positive outcome, or we stay basically indefinitely and do quote unquote whatever it takes for as long as it takes.”

Obama’s policy falls somewhere in the middle, thereby pleasing few. He reiterated that a July 2011 date to begin withdrawing troops does not mean the U.S. will “suddenly turn off the lights and let the door close behind us.” Under Obama’s policy, the number of U.S. troops in Afghanistan will first climb to 98,000.

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Obama said shying away from the harsh facts about North Korea’s behavior is “a bad habit we need to break.”–Huffington

‘YA THINK?????

I was reading some of the comments about the G20’s calls for austerity measures. Somebody at Huffington, posted that if Obama attempts to cut “much needed” programs, when people are hurting, then it’s time to take to the streets like “the people” in Greece.

Wuh Oh!!!!!

Jase

June 28th, 2010
9:22 am

Must be difficult to memorialize a former racist – no matter how much time has passed since the former racist has repented.

Outhouse GoKart

June 28th, 2010
9:23 am

Rush in Alpharetta – Sept! Where are the tickets avail…website?

Went to Rush website…bobble head dolls for sale had to order a set…lol. Both Geddy and Lifeson dolls have them with their double neck guitars. They also have a Rush leather jacket for $499.99..think I will pass.

getalife

June 28th, 2010
9:23 am

When you are 92 and the hospital said you are seriously ill, chances are you are not leaving the hospital like cheney will.

He was proof people can change but also proof we need term limits.

Grumpy

June 28th, 2010
9:24 am

No politician should be allowed to hold the same job for 50 years. TERM LIMITS NOW!

mike

June 28th, 2010
9:25 am

Byrd also led the filibuster of Civil Rights Act of 1964 and personally filibustered for 14 hours straight. He also voted against Voting Rights Act of 1965, but that’s cool with Jay. He is a Democrat.

In Jay’s twisted world, if you are a Republican and say the word “uppity” you are a racist. In that same twisted world being an officer of the Klan is a dalliance and leading opposition to the most important civil rights legislation in history is not worthy of mention.

If you want any better example of why Jay’s “morality” is just a cynical excuse for partisan attack, you probably aren’t going to find it.

RAMBLE ON!!!

June 28th, 2010
9:26 am

Jay, David Duke had his “dalliance with the KKK”, but you libs chased him out of the country.

…what’s that, oh he didn’t vote Democrat, my bad

USinUK

June 28th, 2010
9:26 am

Normal – oh, man … that sucks. try to sleep as late as you can!

(the mister is going through a battery of blood tests, so I feel your pain)