Dave Weigel, Stan McChrystal shared a mistake, and a fate

Journalists should report the news, not become the news. But sometimes life doesn’t work that way.

Michael Hastings, for example, has become part of the story that he wrote for Rolling Stone that ended the career of Gen. Stanley McChrystal. The general’s staff feels betrayed by Hastings’ reporting; Hastings believes he has acted professionally.

I have no idea what ground rules were set between Hastings and McChrystal’s staff or in what setting the reported quotes were made. My own rule is that anything said with either party holding an alcoholic beverage is off the record unless it is stated otherwise. (Jamie McIntyre has a good discussion of the dance between source and reporter in such situations.)

To a large degree, a reporter’s decision is driven by what kind of game he or she is hunting. If you’re seeking things such as comprehension, context and explanation to share with your readers, you don’t do what Hastings did. You let the potentially sensationalistic things slide — within reason — for the chance to get at something more important.

Hastings took another, to my mind lesser approach. Whether he misled McChrystal’s staff into thinking he was taking the first approach, when in fact he was taking the second, is something only he and they know, and I doubt the truth is clear to either.

Dave Weigel, until yesterday a writer at the Washington Post who covered the conservative movement, has also become a news subject. Weigel made the mistake of posting emails to a semi-private journalist listserv that were harshly critical of figures in the conservative movement.

“This would be a vastly better world to live in if Matt Drudge decided to handle his emotional problems more responsibly, and set himself on fire,” one email read.

“It’s all very amusing to me,” another read. “Two hundred screaming Ron Paul fanatics couldn’t get their man into the Fox News New Hampshire GOP debate, but Fox News is pumping around the clock to get Paultard Tea Party people on TV.”

The emails were leaked to a conservative blog, and Weigel was forced to resign. That has angered more than a few Washington journalists, who believe Weigel was betrayed and should not have been forced out.

“On a few occasions, Dave, like plenty of others sharing thoughts on a private email list, shared some uncharitable words and opinions about others,” Steve Benen writes. “What’s wrong with that? Nothing; he was among friends.

“Or so we thought. Someone — it remains unclear who — decided to try to destroy Dave professionally by leaking emails from the list. Tragically, it worked.”

There’s a common thread through both stories. Hastings’ bottom-line argument in the McChrystal case is that nothing is really off the record, and as a practical matter that’s true. The general and his staff placed their fate in the hands of a reporter who saw their arrangement differently than they did, and they paid heavily for that mistake.

But that is also the rule that tripped up Weigel. Nothing is really off the record, including emails posted to a semi-private listserv. He never should have written what he did. He placed his fate in the hands of the 400 or so people with access to that listserv, some of whom he barely knew and maybe didn’t know at all, and one of them cost him his job.

Weigel made the same mistake that McChrystal made, and the Post had no choice but to let Weigel go, just as President Obama had no choice but to dismiss McChrystal.

The sword slices both ways.

331 comments Add your comment

jt

June 27th, 2010
9:35 am

AmVet

That was good.

jt

June 27th, 2010
9:40 am

As far as talking points are concerned, the lefties need to get the up-date.

Obama is out. Hillery is in.

God save us all.

Doggone/GA

June 27th, 2010
9:43 am

“God save us all.”

I didn’t know “the right” now considered Hillary God. Learn something new every day!

AmVet

June 27th, 2010
9:52 am

Well, the Kickball Kup (hat tip to the xenophobes) rolls along without the USA.

A great World War II match up this morning as the Blokes and Jerries battle it out.

Too bad the god-fearing “Christians” will be fishing, errr, ahem, excuse me, in church and will miss it.

Southern Comfort

June 27th, 2010
9:53 am

Explain to me what Jindal is supposed to do with 6,000 national guard troops? Do they have the equipment to do anything? Are they trained on the fancy oil cleaning ships that the Jones Act and the Coast Guard won’t let in to the area? I’m sure Jindal would call up another 5,000 troops if they were needed, but extra hands don’t really necessarily do much if all they can do is twiddle their thumbs.

Such an amazing post considering how people complain that the government needs to do something. Last time I heard, the National Guard was a part of government. Jindal, as the governor, is part of government. Is it only the Federal government that people expect to do something? Or is it just that people want Obama himself to go clean up the gulf? Just a few things I ponder…

Kamchak

June 27th, 2010
10:05 am

Such an amazing post considering how people complain that the government needs to do something.

Some people bitch when the government is inactive–the same people bitch when the government is proactive.

Some people are just bitches.

Southern Comfort

June 27th, 2010
10:12 am

Kam

That last line should be on a tshirt or bumper sticker :)

@@

June 27th, 2010
10:27 am

Some people are just bitches.

That’s ^^^ ME!!!! according to Bosch.

RW-(the original)

June 27th, 2010
10:32 am

xenophobes…bitches…

Good thing Jay B doesn’t enforce his rules or he’d lose the whole left side of his blog.

Kamchak

June 27th, 2010
10:33 am

This is embarrassing for England.

Southern Comfort

June 27th, 2010
10:45 am

RW

:lol: That wouldn’t be any fun would it?

Southern Comfort

June 27th, 2010
10:53 am

My nominee for best headline of the week:

Bionic British cat gets faux paws (with photo)

http://www2.tbo.com/content/2010/jun/25/bionic-british-cat-gets-faux-paws/

Kamchak

June 27th, 2010
11:27 am

4-1 Germany.

Oy.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

June 27th, 2010
11:43 am

jt- Chartruese and white spinner bait, with a tear drop brass blade, slow rolled through a 3′ deep depression about 20 feet from the shore. I’m talking about SLOW rolled. The water is 88 degrees. That damn fish was pulling the boat with him.

RW- If I were to email you the pictures, since these dumbass liberals think I don’t take pictures, could you post them to a site where we could all go take a look at them?

RW-(the original)

June 27th, 2010
11:47 am

Andy,

Sure or you could just upload them to a Flickr account. Or you could just send a picture to Jay B to use for his next vacation thread.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

June 27th, 2010
11:49 am

What’s your email?

RW-(the original)

June 27th, 2010
11:51 am

RW-(the original)

June 27th, 2010
11:55 am

I’m also running out right now so it’ll be later this afternoon.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

June 27th, 2010
12:11 pm

Never mind, we did the Flickr thing-

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ireportyouwhine/

Call me a liar…

Kamchak

June 27th, 2010
12:23 pm

Nice fish Andy—congrats.

jt

June 27th, 2010
12:37 pm

Good show Report-

For what it is worth ( you probably already know) during these hot days, large-mouth will get a little lock-jawed. I’ve got a good weapon. The drainage pipes of Both of my giant AC units are are tied together and flow into a 600 gallon brick resevoir that I built myself. I bought some 10 cent goldfish a few years back and now some of these guys are 6 inches long. A few monthes back at Rock Creek resevoir, we were having some decent luck catching some small mouth and crappie with a white beetle-spin. I put a 5 inch goldfish on a pole and just let swim around. Whatever took that thing, I never had a chance. I played it about 15 or 20 seconds, then the line broke. It had to have been a plus 10 pound largemouth or a giant cat. I have had much luck since with smaller goldfish if no lures are working.

Try a gold fish if you are not that much of a purist.

Southern Comfort

June 27th, 2010
1:22 pm

WHiner

Nice catch!!!

theyeshaveit

June 27th, 2010
1:26 pm

nelsonhoward said, It would not surprise me if there were more officers spouting off. It has to be a tough job being a commander walking the tight rope between what is right tactically for the war and what President Obama wants.

nelson either conveniently forgot, or simply was ignorant of the fact, that the current counter insurgency plan and rules of engagement are all about McCrystal (and Petraeus). They are the authors of the plan and they sold Obama on that plan. Yes, McCrystal knew what he was doing all right.

theyeshaveit

June 27th, 2010
1:28 pm

Whiner, why did you say that no one would believe you? ;-) Anyway, nice catch, and now you know how to use Flickr, too.

Scout

June 27th, 2010
1:28 pm

Headline (ABC) : “Afghanistan Progress ‘Slower’ Than Anticipated”

“In an exclusive interview on “This Week,” CIA Director Leon Panetta said that making progress in Afghanistan is both “harder” and going more slowly than anticipated.”

“There are some serious problems” in Afghanistan, Panetta said. “We’re dealing with tribal societies. We’re dealing with a country that has problems with governance, problems with corruption, problems with narcotics trafficking, problems with a Taliban insurgency,” he said.”

Governance, corruption, drugs, insurgency ……………. and no mention of religious based terrorism.

IT’S A RELIGIOUS WAR !!!

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

June 27th, 2010
1:34 pm

Appreciate it.

~~~~~

jt- I already do pretty much the same thing, except I use bait store bought shiners. There are some giant stands of lily pads scattered around here, so I hook that shiner behind his dorsal fin with a balloon tied about 25 feet up the line. When you throw the shiner in the water, it immediately takes off for the lily pads. When the balloon dives underwater, strap yourself to the seat cause the shiner ran into some bad company.

Scout

June 27th, 2010
1:37 pm

getalife

June 27th, 2010
1:39 pm

theyeshaveit

June 27th, 2010
1:40 pm

Scout, I do not agree with you (surprise, surprise, I know), but if it were a religious war as you say, all the more reason to get out now. Why the hell should we be participating in a “religious war”?

Scout

June 27th, 2010
1:42 pm

Jay: One of us is NOT going to be happy tomorrow ……… I hope it’s you ………. :o

Headline: “National Gun Rights Ruling Expected Tomorrow”

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE65Q0ND20100627

Scout

June 27th, 2010
1:43 pm

theeyeshavit:

Very simple. They are trying to kill us.

getalife

June 27th, 2010
1:43 pm

I think we start leaving next July but will leave some troops to protect the stealing of their resources.

theyeshaveit

June 27th, 2010
1:47 pm

Scout, what neighborhood do you live in? I don’t see any armed Afghans in my neighborhood.
Maybe you meant this?

http://www.buzzle.com/img/articleImages/101314-8med.jpg

Hillbilly Deluxe

June 27th, 2010
1:47 pm

IR/YW

Nice fish.

Thank the Lord for the rain I got here in the Hills yesterday evening. It was sorely needed.

theyeshaveit

June 27th, 2010
1:51 pm

getalife, yup, now that actual minerals have been discovered there. Before the discovery, protecting resources would have meant keeping the foreigners from getting all that good home-grown opium.

Scout

June 27th, 2010
1:54 pm

theeyeshavit:

I guess you have forgotten about 9/11 and all the other multitude of incidents involving the Islamic religion.

In any case, may I recommend a new book just out and then we can discuss further. It’s a great read.

“The Grand Jihad” by Andrew McCarthy

Mr. McCarthy is the former federal prosecutor who convicted the “Blind Sheik” and others involving the 1993 World Trade Center Bombing.

getalife

June 27th, 2010
1:56 pm

theyeshaveit ,

We can work off some of that debt to China because they have been drilling for years.

Perhaps not paying back the money borrowed from them to stay there would help our deficit.

Normal

June 27th, 2010
2:12 pm

Just got back from helping my granddaughter move some stuff and saw this sign. Woodstock Tea Party Patriots meeting at the THOP on 92 at 4:00pm.

I’m surprised they aren’t meeting at “The Right Wing Cafe” in downtown Woodstock. Maybe the Cafe is nor right wing enough. Anyway thought I’d head out there with my “I Think, Therefore I am Liberal” tee shirt
on. Oughta be fun… ;)

Normal

June 27th, 2010
2:13 pm

IHOP, Dammit

Scout

June 27th, 2010
2:21 pm

Normal:

You mean your “I’m Emotional, Therefore I am Liberal” T-shirt ?

getalife

June 27th, 2010
2:57 pm

“So 1,000 US troops per al Qaeda member, at a cost of $1 million each. That’s $1 billion a year we spend for each al Qaeda member to fight our war in Afghanistan.”FDL

It’s a tough sell.

The Rest of the Story

June 27th, 2010
3:36 pm

What a “classy” V.P. we have:

Dumbass would have been closer

Last February, a CBS/NYT poll showed that only 2% of (Tea partiers) knew that taxes had gone down under President Obama. Later, David Frum and Bruce Bartlett found similar levels of ignorance when they examined the ‘Baggers.

This is all prelude to Vice President Biden’s encounter with a Wisconsin frozen custard store manager yesterday. After Biden asked the store manager how much he owed for his frozen custard, the new Joe the Plumber replied:

Lower our taxes and we’ll call it even.

Predictably, this incident has inspired a wingnut circle jerk today.

The problem is, of course that Obama/Biden did lower the store manager’s taxes. Not to mention the fact that the House just passed a tax cut for small businesses, and by the way — taxes are already at historic lows. And all the while, Republicans are complaining about the national debt, which would be exacerbated by even lower taxes.

No matter. Powertools is excitedly calling the store manager, “Kopp the Custard Man,” noting:

It doesn’t have quite the snappy ring of “Joe the Plumber,” but it will do.

Yes, just what the right needs. Another low-information voter to rally around.

@@

June 27th, 2010
4:12 pm

DANGIT, SEMPER!

Andy’s got a boat and we don’t.

(IW&SH)

I guess that fish’s head was cut off while it was still alive.

Don’t tell me.

popeye

June 27th, 2010
5:01 pm

The weather report brought to you by the Christian News Network………………..

http://vodpod.com/watch/3064672-bill-maher-christian-news-network

Scout

June 27th, 2010
5:35 pm

The Rest of the Story:

The factual or non-factual accuracy of the citizen has nothing to do with the crassness of the V.P.

He should be above that.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

June 27th, 2010
5:36 pm

Nice 3 pounder, gitmo.

~~~~~

@@- I let him swim. He’ll never grow to be 8 pounds laid up in a frying pan.

Scout

June 27th, 2010
5:40 pm

Headline: “World Cup – Argentina Crushes Mexico 3 to 1″

Only in soccer would that be a “crush”.

In baseball it would be a “squeaker”.

@@

June 27th, 2010
5:53 pm

getalife

June 27th, 2010
5:54 pm

Andy,

I am not going to tell a fish story like you.

I found that picture on the internet like you did.

If we knew what you looked like and you had a picture of you holding that fish, I would believe you but cons rarely tell the truth.

If it is the truth, I hope you threw it back so others might catch it . That is what I do.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

June 27th, 2010
6:21 pm

Yeah, gitmo, five years I’ve been on this blog and what, I’ve killed a 86 point non typical buck that Boone and Crocketed at 538 points, a 5000 lb. Siberian Bengal Tiger and I slaughtered an elephant with 56 foot long tusks, shot him in the ass and the tusks came by fifteen minutes later, oh wait, no I haven’t.

Gee, why didn’t I just say it was a 54 lb. Largemouth?

Paranoia, self destroyer…

Kamchak

June 27th, 2010
6:24 pm

Move over Pat Roberts, there’s a new sheriff in town.

Is there a spiritual, biblical connection to the BP oil catastrophe?

A new video on YouTube is suggesting a possible link to the disaster due to America’s recent treatment of Israel, and at least one well-known Bible analyst, Hal Lindsey, thinks there’s a valid correlation.

Kamchak

June 27th, 2010
6:35 pm

Uh…Pat Robertson

TaxPayer

June 27th, 2010
6:40 pm

Six pounder. What on earth are y’all on here talking about bait for.

Paul

June 27th, 2010
7:05 pm

Dateline NBC, on now. Watch it.

Scout

June 27th, 2010
7:29 pm

Kamchak:

I’m not sayin, but what if there was correlation? Seriously. Then what?

Scout

June 27th, 2010
7:31 pm

Kamchak:

P.S. “I will bless them that bless you and curse them that curse you.”

Hillbilly Deluxe

June 27th, 2010
7:32 pm

@@ 5:53

As an old man I used to know would say, “that’s big enough to make the gravy stink”.

And I once shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got in my pajamas, I’ll never know. (Apologies to Groucho).

Scout

June 27th, 2010
7:39 pm

The WSB T.V. website this evening has a photo selection (101 photos) entitled ” Redneck Repair Jobs” and it’s actually quite funny. I enjoyed it.

Of course most of them had nothing to do with “Rednecks” as you can observe.

My point is, what if they had said “Polak Repair Jobs” or “Raghead Repair Jobs” or …………….. you fill in the blanks?

The old double standard lives ………………..

Hillbilly Deluxe

June 27th, 2010
7:46 pm

The old double standard lives

Now Scout, you know it’s perfectly okay for people to look down their noses at folks like us. ;-)

jt

June 27th, 2010
7:49 pm

Sincere public announcement-

Before you enjoy that Sunday meal of sweet potatos, thin pork-chops, broccolli, tomatoes, onions, rice and gravy(like I just did). Remember——————-Don’t blindly be afraid of fat. Don’t fear it. Its all about avoiding weird refined food AND avoiding advice from anyone with a Harvard Degree—–

Last week, the Los Angeles Times ran an article about the new government initiative on food which is the same as the old government initiative, except this time they mean it. From the LA Times article:

“The basic advice is the same. The new twist is that they’re recognizing the fact that it’s very hard for people to follow that advice,” said Margo Wootan, nutrition policy director of the nonprofit Center for Science in the Public Interest.

The initiative is to get people to follow the special interest-influenced government food pyramid, which puts fat in the same ‘evil’ category as sugar and salt. As we know, the low-fat campaign, for 2+ decades, has created a generation of obese, unhealthy, nutritionally deficient, tax-feeding Americans who live on fast food and processed food, and make carbohydrates the bulk of their diets while they substitute barely edible, chemical-loaded Lean Cuisine frozen entrees for real, whole foods with healthy fats. (Make sure you eat those healthy, healthy cereals, hamburger buns, and saltine crackers, along with hydrogenated oils, as the pyramid spells out.)

jt

June 27th, 2010
7:51 pm

“while they substitute barely edible, chemical-loaded Lean Cuisine frozen entrees for real, whole foods with healthy fats. ”

Those things aren’t natural.

rightwing troll

June 27th, 2010
7:59 pm

I don’t understand the whole hubub around the weigel issue… He got fired for telling the truth?

Scout

June 27th, 2010
8:04 pm

Hillbilly Deluxe:

Doesn’t bother me. I just wish the others weren’t so touchy.

I’m a W.Va. transplant. How about you?

Hillbilly Deluxe

June 27th, 2010
8:14 pm

Scout

7th generation North Georgian.

TaxPayer

June 27th, 2010
8:25 pm

7th generation North Georgian.

Yes but what part of North Georgia and what side of what river or street in North Georgia.

Hillbilly Deluxe

June 27th, 2010
8:27 pm

South side of the road and this side of the river. That’s all anybody needs to know.

@@

June 27th, 2010
8:28 pm

Hillbilly:

Once I cut its head off, there was nothing left to cook OR stink.

Just kidding.

Only fish I’ve ever caught are brim or bream. I did catch a turtle out in the ocean once. It was really, REALLY BIG! We had to cut the line ’cause nobody wanted to mess with it, it was so big.

I hope he/she lived. I worried about it for days.

Scout

June 27th, 2010
8:32 pm

Man is it brutal outside.

Anyone remember those good old days at the drive-in theater with no air conditioning ?

@@

June 27th, 2010
8:33 pm

Oh, and grouper has worms. Everybody I know orders grouper when we eat out. I tell ‘em it has worms. They don’t believe me, but it does…

have worms.

Hillbilly Deluxe

June 27th, 2010
8:34 pm

@@

Catching bream on a fly rod is a lot of fun. And if you can’t catch a bream on a fly rod, you might as well head home because nothing is biting.

TaxPayer

June 27th, 2010
8:36 pm

South side of the road and this side of the river. That’s all anybody needs to know.

Well, those on the North side of the road and the other side of the river might think otherwise.

TaxPayer

June 27th, 2010
8:37 pm

Worm meat is high in protein.

@@

June 27th, 2010
8:41 pm

Worm meat is high in protein.

So are roaches, but I’m not eating one.

Scout

June 27th, 2010
8:51 pm

TaxPayer:

I think if someone said white you would say black and vice versa.

Try to “lighten up” sometime ………..

Scout

June 27th, 2010
9:01 pm

Well, well, well …………….. trouble in paradise ?

Headline (CBS): “Rift Between Obama and Other G-20 Leaders”

“President Obama Largely Unsuccessful in Convincing His G-20 Colleagues in Further Deficit Spending”

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/#ixzz0s6ZpoDkF

RW-(the original)

June 27th, 2010
9:02 pm

TaxPayer

June 27th, 2010
9:04 pm

Scout,

Says the person that thinks we have an illegal president who is a terrorist that wants to destroy our nation and who will succeed if we don’t stop him no matter the cost… Perhaps it is you who should lighten up some time.

Scout

June 27th, 2010
9:12 pm

More Double Standard :

“Obama Who Threatened To Filibuster Alito, Says Kagan Deserves Fair Shake”

Scout

June 27th, 2010
9:14 pm

TaxPayer:

I was talking about the personal banter back and forth between posters ………. just common courtesy among those of us who like to be on here.

Laying into the “outside world” is fair game …………. or Jay would never have a thread.

Scout

June 27th, 2010
9:17 pm

Taxpayer:

P.S.

1) I have never said he was illegal (whether born in Hawaii or not). Just want the truth.

2) I have never said he was a terrorist (I have said he is soft on terrorism and playing into their hands).

3) I have said he is ruining this Republic and we must prevent that and I stand by that 100% ! Novermber can’t come soon enought !

TaxPayer

June 27th, 2010
9:18 pm

Scout,

Are you upset because I called you a Cub Scout. As for your comment about personal banter, that’s all I can think of. Or perhaps you are referring to the exchange between NIF and myself earlier. Please go back and pull up any post of mine to NIF and tell me what upsets you so much. Please, do it, Scout. Go for it. Do it. Come on, Scout.

Southern Comfort

June 27th, 2010
9:24 pm

HD

I don’t think I’d wanna know how an elephant got in my pajamas either, but that was funny as hell!!!

RW

I believe neither BP, the EPA, MMS or whomever makes the decisions couldn’t navigate themselves out of a wide open barn standing right in front of the door. The lack of direction in this response is dumbfounding. I know I can’t be there physically to help them out, so I pray every day that this gets resolved very soon. We’ve been lied to for so long, I really have a hard time believing anything I hear now.

Scout

If you ever need a psychiatrist, here’s the perfect one for you…
http://www.youtube.com/user/GEICO#p/u/0/JhlWddAXSRA

I saw that earlier today and thought you’d get a kick out of it.

@@

June 27th, 2010
9:31 pm

CIA Director Leon Panetta said Sunday that U.S. officials had not seen “any firm intelligence” that insurgent groups in Afghanistan are interested in reconciliation, and he dismissed reports that a top militant leader was open to a Pakistan-brokered agreement.

“We have seen no evidence that they are truly interested in reconciliation where they would surrender their arms, where they would denounce al-Qaeda, where they would really try to become part of that society,” Panetta said on ABC’s “This Week.” “My view is that . . . unless they’re convinced the United States is going to win and that they are going to be defeated, I think it is very difficult to proceed with a reconciliation that is going to be meaningful.”

Uhmmmmm, O.K.. Have you discussed that with President Obama, Leon?

@@

June 27th, 2010
9:34 pm

Justice Ginsberg’s husband passed away.

And what’s wrong with Senator Byrd? He’s reported in serious condition.

RW-(the original)

June 27th, 2010
9:36 pm

SoCo,

They did manage to change the name of MMS to BOE so I’m sure all will be fine now.

Del

June 27th, 2010
9:36 pm

Taxpayer,

What defines a true liberal? what does liberalism really mean by you definition? What would be your mission statement?

TaxPayer

June 27th, 2010
9:37 pm

And what’s wrong with Senator Byrd

For one thing, he’s older than dirt.

TaxPayer

June 27th, 2010
9:40 pm

Del,

I don’t know what defines a true liberal. I’ve never thought of myself in such terms as liberal or conservative. I do know that I regret having voted for George Bush and I am still happy with my vote for Obama, given the option.

Southern Comfort

June 27th, 2010
9:43 pm

They did manage to change the name of MMS to BOE so I’m sure all will be fine now.

:lol:

And, when the gall bladder is removed, feces comes out white in color. Even though the color changes, it’s still sh*t!!

They need to gut the whole agency and start fresh. And to think, with our agency, they police us hard on ethics.

Scout

June 27th, 2010
9:48 pm

Southern Comfort : LOL !

TaxPayer: gby

Del

June 27th, 2010
9:48 pm

Taxpayer,

You don’t consider yourself to be a left leaning liberal, so being apart from that label of liberal, what do you think that means for those who define themselves as liberal. In other words what do you think is their core belief?

Del

June 27th, 2010
9:52 pm

Taxpayer on my 9:48pm,

No agenda there…I’m just curious as you were on a previous thread asking about what it means to a conservative.

Scout

June 27th, 2010
9:55 pm

Scout

June 27th, 2010
9:56 pm

Del:

Check out my 9:55 ! You will love it !

P.S. You’re playing with “sonar to bridge” if you know what I mean ……………..

Southern Comfort

June 27th, 2010
10:02 pm

Scout: LMAO!!!

@@

June 27th, 2010
10:03 pm

Del

June 27th, 2010
10:04 pm

Scout,
Even though I used to like a beer (still do on occasion) I thought Key Stone beer was the worst tasting beer since Pabst Blue Ribbon in the Nam. Am I missing something here?

@@

June 27th, 2010
10:12 pm

O.K., this is where I get confused. If they’re lesbians, I’m assuming they want to be women with women, so why is the one on the left sporting a beard? Sex change, but why, if…..?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/g/a/2010/06/26/pride_gallery.DTL&object=%2Fc%2Fpictures%2F2010%2F06%2F26%2Fba-PRIDE27_06_Wa_0501892723.jpg

Del

June 27th, 2010
10:15 pm

Taxpayer,

Didn’t think so…Taps y’all.

Scout

June 27th, 2010
10:15 pm

Del:

Worse than Sterling or Schlitz?

Did you ever see that recipe I posted on “Recon Punch” ?