Here’s the bottom line – literally – in gay/military debate

The Atlantic’s Marc Ambinder (frank language warning!) looks into the info nugget that General McChrystal voted for Obama. Citing several McChyrstal staff members, he reports that the general “was a hard core operator, aggressive as hell, a JSOC ninja — but he was also a social liberal who tolerated, nay, welcomed gay people into his inner circle, who disdained Fox News, and who grew increasingly frustrated with his reputation as Dick Cheney’s hired assassin.”

Ambinder says he’s not surprised. Within the special forces community, he says, people don’t seem to care much about sexual orientation:

“As one former member of a special missions unit put it to me recently, “It’s really about competence. If you’re competent, it doesn’t matter who you are.” And then, switching instantly from an analytical posture to a machismo mode, he said, “If a guy saves my ass, he sure as hell can look at it.”

That’s the bottom line.

So to speak.

130 comments Add your comment

ME, Me, me

June 24th, 2010
5:41 pm

Beavis and Butthead

June 24th, 2010
5:51 pm

heh heh, heh heh, heh heh heh. uhhhhh, He said “ass”, heh heh, heh heh.

Yeah, “ass”, heh heh. Special Forces are cool.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

June 24th, 2010
5:53 pm

Now they want to go gay, heh-

That the American military thinks the Obama team is not up to the job of defeating Al Qaeda and winning a war which it is even terrified of calling by name. That those on the front line in a life-and-death struggle with a serious enemy think the President a wimp, the Vice President a blowhard, the national security adviser a “clown,” Ambassador Richard Holbrooke a man consumed by the need for relevance, and that the French act like…well…the French.

That’s what I’m saying…

Our little team of surrender monkeys.

Finn McCool

June 24th, 2010
5:56 pm

disdained Fox News

good man

The other bottom line

June 24th, 2010
6:01 pm

If you look at many of those who are against gays in the military, I’d bet even their own wives don’t enjoy looking at their asses.

I’d bet their boyfriends don’t either.

Thank you, thank you, don’t forget to tip your waiter.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

June 24th, 2010
6:02 pm

Only a president as shallow and easily rattled as Obama and an equally glib press corps could treat a Rolling Stone interview like the Cuban Missile Crisis.-Nuemayr, AmSpec

Yes, indeed.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

June 24th, 2010
6:06 pm

Well, I got nothing against gays. Except when they try and get in the military. I mean, suppose you’re in the barracks and you drop off to sleep. Some gay comes along. Next thing you know, you wake up gay! We can’t have that.

No offense to josef or anybody like that. As long as they don’t try to get in the military or get married, I got nothing against them. Provided they keep to theirself. I mean, you wouldn’t want somebody like that to show up at church or your trailer.

I reckon you can see right away I ain’t bigoted the way mike says I am. It’s just that I think military people ought to be Manly Men.

Have a good night everybody.

@@

June 24th, 2010
6:11 pm

Dick Cheney had an assassin???? That’s my kinda man.

Here’s my hit list:

Ahmadenijad and Karzai. Make it quick and painless…I’m not into the sufferin’.

———————————————–

So, ‘ya think Obama fired McChrystal ’cause he wanted DADT repealed? Maybe McChrystal, himself was….as josef says….(wink, wink) gay? You know about these things, don’tcha jay?

All my best to General McChrystal–may he live long and prosper.

SouthGaDawg

June 24th, 2010
6:12 pm

Wow. One quote proves your point.

And you’ll also find other SpecOp guys who say that it does matter if other operators are gay.

There is no “one voice” for how anyone in SpecOps or the Military as a whole feels about gays in the military.

President Hussein

June 24th, 2010
6:16 pm

“if he saves my ass, he can sure as look at it”……

He he he, I’m sure he sure as wants to do more than just
look at it

Lord Help Us

June 24th, 2010
6:16 pm

And if a lady saves his ass…well that’s just a bonus…

President Hussein

June 24th, 2010
6:20 pm

Also gives a whole new meaning to “covering my backside”….

The other bottom line

June 24th, 2010
6:20 pm

Anybody else notice that the word assassin has the word ass twice followed by the word in?

Southern Comfort

June 24th, 2010
6:20 pm

When the dust is being kicked up by 7.62 rounds coming from different directions and mortar rounds exploding, I wholeheartedly believe the last thing on a soldier’s/Marine’s mind is whether or not the person taking the same fire next to him is gay.

Curious Observer

June 24th, 2010
6:23 pm

It’s not the McCrystals or others like him I’m concerned about. It’s those old-line enlisted people and some older officers who’ve devoted a military career to instilling anti-gay sentiment in recruits and new people. Any Marine veteran can tell you about the stern lectures about the consequences of gay behavior and the anti-gay jokes and quips. I doubt that younger people care much, one way or the other. It’s those older veterans people need to talk to and watch out for about DADT. eliminating DADT

AmVet

June 24th, 2010
6:25 pm

What a revolting thought. Anybody, much less a career military man being DickHead’s b!tch.

Too bad there was always so much Secret Service around that slimy POS.

Given the chance, I would presume McChrystal and a bunch of other guys would have loved to have backhanded that smirk off of that little coward’s face. Then waterboarded that “I had priorities other than military service” screw up.

The only assassinations those useless neo-cons were good at were the verbal, Swift Boating kind.

The service-averse con chickenhawks were and are wrong about virtually everything military. Including DADT. Why would anybody possibly believe they have a clue now?

They don’t.

josef nix

June 24th, 2010
6:36 pm

Okay, I’m here…let ‘er rip!

First the article…pretty good. Of course, most of us gay folks already knew about McChrystal…it was hard to not bring this up during the discussion of his dismissal. But, even when your friend steps out of line…

And do I think this played into the President’s decision…I’m not sure how much, but it was certainly there since McChrystal has questioned the White House commitment to repeal of DADT…

BTW just got off the phone with Older Boy calling to wish us a happy a belated Father’s Day…told him about this one here…so, Beau, my boy, if you’re playing fly on the wall…I love you, Son, and we are very proud of you,,,

Keep up the good fight!

June 24th, 2010
6:39 pm

Now I get the plan… McChrystal is going undercover to take on the real threat to America — Faux News! We’ll see how that hopey changey things works for Sarah when he puts up a map with some targets on it.

Finn McCool

June 24th, 2010
6:39 pm

hehehe:

Get short, timely messages from Gen. Stanley McChrystal on Twitter:
DAY 1
In Paris with my Kabul posse — Bluto, Otter, Boon, Pinto, Flounder. Plus some newbie. Guys call him Scribbles.

Suite’s getting pretty crowded. Good thing I sleep standing up.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/24/opinion/24collins.html?hp

@@

June 24th, 2010
6:40 pm

so, Beau, my boy, if you’re playing fly on the wall…I love you, Son, and we are very proud of you,,,

Aawwwhhhhhh, josef…..

Finn McCool

June 24th, 2010
6:48 pm

Brawling parents interrupted a Southern California kindergarten graduation ceremony. School officials placed Puesta del Sol Elementary in desert Victorville on lockdown Wednesday morning after a fight broke out

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/06/24/national/a080722D12.DTL#ixzz0roUzJtZe

josef nix

June 24th, 2010
6:50 pm

other bottom line

“Thank you, thank you, don’t forget to tip your waiter.”
Yep. And thanks for the post…

@@
Oh, you know what I think…but sssshhhh.

Now, if Ima Gonna really wants to pull a coup, put McChrystal in charge of overseeing the implementation of the repeal of DADT…everybody would be happy and gay then…

josef nix

June 24th, 2010
6:53 pm

Finn–
@ 6:39
Sounds like somebody I wouldn’t mind sharing a beer with…

jconservative

June 24th, 2010
6:57 pm

The problem most people have with gays openly in the military and having “marriages” is that the next thing they will want to do is pay taxes like regular people. And a lot of people do not wants gays paying taxes. You gotta draw the line somewhere.

@@

June 24th, 2010
6:58 pm

If Obama’s goal is to confuse the hell out of everybody, he’s doing a heckuva job.

Leading Republican politicians and the former American secretary of state Henry Kissinger have called on the president to drop a July 2011 deadline to begin withdrawing US troops, saying that it undermines the effort to defeat the Taliban.

Voices on the Democratic party’s left want withdrawal to begin immediately, saying the war cannot be won.

But today, Obama said he intended to stick with the strategy and timetable agreed last year, while indicating that US troops could remain in Afghanistan in significant numbers well after the withdrawal is due to start next summer.

“We did not say, starting in July 2011, suddenly there will be no troops from the United States or allied countries in Afghanistan,” Obama said at a press conference with the Russian president, Dmitry Medvedev, who sidestepped a question about whether, in light of the Soviet Union’s defeat in Afghanistan, a foreign army can expect to win a war in Afghanistan.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/24/us-troop-withdrawal-afghanistan-strategy

WTH is wrong with that man??????

Southern Comfort

June 24th, 2010
7:02 pm

josef nix

June 24th, 2010
7:04 pm

Finn
@ 6:48
It’s hot in that part of California this time of year and people get edgy… :-)

jconservative

My conservative GOP brother in law has come out strongly in favor of gay marriage, “h3ll y’all had it too good long enough, Time y’all share in the misery, too!”

Southern Comfort

June 24th, 2010
7:05 pm

Personally, I think the military will be the first to socially integrate gays into their ranks just as the military was far ahead of our society in racial integration.

boots

June 24th, 2010
7:07 pm

It is George Bush’s fault. Give Comrade Obama six more years and another $3 trillion, and he will save the planet. Meanwhile, throw in a few thousand for Gore and let him have a few prostitutes and let Rahm bride and threaten our country in to a healthy state.

Del

June 24th, 2010
7:07 pm

Jay, please you haven’t made the case that SOCOM or the military generally speaking supports DADT repeal. Because there just isn’t that support up and down the ranks. It’s a good law that keeps sexual orientation out of the equation where it should be kept and that’s the bottom line.

Sounds queer

June 24th, 2010
7:08 pm

Sounds queer.

Scout

June 24th, 2010
7:09 pm

Thanks for the intell. Jay:

I always wondered why the Army Special Forces were the first to wear those little beret thingies.

Gee, I hope the Rangers don’t go soft.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH4-tOqLH94

@@

June 24th, 2010
7:11 pm

The way this administration operates, Obama may give up the deadline in exchange for extended unemployment benefits.

Congress Fails to Pass an Extension of Jobless Benefits

Seriously!

Finn McCool

June 24th, 2010
7:13 pm

19 reasons why God torched Jesus (starting at number 7)

7) One word: S’mores.
8) Two more: Insurance money. God has been eyeing the new Cadillac CTS Coupe. In this economy? You do what need to do.
10) Word has it the Hustler Hollywood sign sitting atop the adult bookstore across the street from the torched Touchdown Jesus was left unscathed, thus proving (once again) that God really does like porn. And irony. Or just needs a new contact lens prescription.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2010/06/18/notes061810.DTL#ixzz0robBu89c

josef nix

June 24th, 2010
7:13 pm

SoCo
That’s why when he cashiered McChrystal I said I hope he is taking his plays from Truman’s book…

Del
With all due respect, nope. Not from what my boy tells me, and I’ll take his word for it since that’s where he is…i agree sexual orientation should be kept out of the equation. So get rid of DADT which puts it there…

josef nix

June 24th, 2010
7:14 pm

Scout
‘Bout time you get your tail in here…and you better be nice or I’ll tell ‘em about a certain tattoo! :-)

Finn McCool

June 24th, 2010
7:15 pm

Touchdown Jesus

LOL

Scout

June 24th, 2010
7:17 pm

josef:

Themper Fi and Ooooo Wah !

Del

June 24th, 2010
7:18 pm

josef,

I understand your feelings on the subject, however, to quote my dear deceased momma, in many cases it’s just best to let sleeping dogs lie. This is one of them.

BADA BING

June 24th, 2010
7:19 pm

What do you call a lesbian in fatigues?………Militia Etheridge

@@

June 24th, 2010
7:20 pm

Whoa!!!!

Blast at Greek police ministry kills top aide

“It was a wrapped package that exploded in the aide’s hands after he apparently picked it up and tried to open it,” police spokesman Thanassis Kokkalakis told Reuters. “We heard a big bang, there was a lot of smoke and damage.”

There was no warning and no reports of other injuries.

Since suffering its worst riots in decades in 2008, Greece has been rocked by a series of bomb attacks for which leftist militants have claimed responsibility. Earlier this year, police arrested six suspected members of the country’s most violent militant group, Revolutionary Struggle.

The victim of Thursday’s blast, George Vassilakis, was adjutant to the minister and the father to two children.

“I lost a valuable and dear colleague,” an emotional Chrysohoidis told reporters outside the ministry. He was in the building at the time of the explosion at 8.15 p.m. (1715 GMT), but escaped injury.

In early May, three people including a pregnant woman were killed when people marching in an anti-austerity protest fire-bombed an Athens bank. In March, a 15-year old boy was killed and his mother and sister injured after a bomb exploded outside a building in the capital.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE65N5FM20100624

Scout

June 24th, 2010
7:20 pm

BADA BING

June 24th, 2010
7:21 pm

Are we going to have to change the name of’ Special Forces’ to ‘Fabulous Forces’?

Dusty

June 24th, 2010
7:24 pm

Wel, I’ll be an ol’ fuddy duddy but some of the language here is more suitable to Hustler Magzine than a supposedly “family newsppaer” I do believe it is possible to have a discussion without every low down anatomical name thrown in.

I see Bookman sets a low scale. I guess it is supposedly manly to speak like you grew up on the back side of a junk yard. Yeah, low down dirty.

OK, back to your literary pursuits. Nice note from your son, Josef. Our military make us proud whether we make them proud or not. Our fine sons and daughters bring us great happiness.

josef nix

June 24th, 2010
7:25 pm

Del

If it’s best to let sleeping dogs lie, the quit kicking them (out)…

Scout–
Thop it! I’ll shlap you thilly!

@@

June 24th, 2010
7:29 pm

And another WHOOAAAA!!!

Both Washington and Jerusalem withheld public exposure of this US-Israeli aerial exercise, dubbed Juniper Stallion 2010. President Barack Obama ordered all US missile interceptors in the Middle East to go on war alert in the second week of June, including batteries aboard US Sixth Fleet vessels on the Mediterranean and the US Fifth Fleet in the Persian Gulf.

It was decided at the White House to stage the Juniper Stallion exercise only eight months after Juniper Cobra 10, the biggest joint war maneuver the US and Israel had ever conducted against missile attack, after receiving new intelligence that Iran, Syria and Hizballah had almost doubled their operational armory of medium-range missiles.

Switching over to a tough line, US defense secretary Robert Gates warned a Senate panel on June 18 that Iran could fire “scores or hundreds” of short- and medium-range missiles against Europe – in salvoes rather than one or two at a time.
Four days later, Gates told a Fox interviewer: “I don’t think we’re prepared to even talk about containing a nuclear Iran. I think… our view still is we do not accept the idea of Iran having nuclear weapons.” Asked whether a military strike was preferable, he said all options remain on the table although some time is left for working on problem.”

http://www.debka.com/article/8866/

JUNIPER STALLION!!??!!

That sounds kinda gay.

LaShondra

June 24th, 2010
7:30 pm

Why is it that the libs still fantasize about assinating people? No one called the guy out. Bookman is fine with it.

@@

June 24th, 2010
7:32 pm

Juniper=Green

Would that be Green, as in environmentally friendly or Green, as in Green to Go.

Maybe Greenhorn Stallion?

josef nix

June 24th, 2010
7:37 pm

@@

Been tellin’ ya, that deal is long worked out…

And the Israeli Air Force has LOTS of gay and lesbian top guns…and guess what, they get the same “spousal leave” as others…

Spousal leave?

Under Orthodox Law a man must have sex with his wife at least once a year and a special leave is granted for this!

And for you women…under Orthodox law, a woman can refuse her husband, but he can’t refuse her!

Scout

June 24th, 2010
7:43 pm

BADA BING :

“Fairy Forces” !

@@

June 24th, 2010
7:43 pm

ONCE A YEAR!!??!!

No wonder everybody thinks Jewish people are stingy.

josef nix

June 24th, 2010
7:45 pm

Okay, Scout…what’s that about a pink flamingo in a camouflage tutu on the right cheek? :-)

josef nix

June 24th, 2010
7:47 pm

@@

That’s required. Remember she’s ’sposed to get it any time she wants it…no headaches tonight dear for po’ ole Haymie!

Jay

June 24th, 2010
7:49 pm

Del, I didn’t think or even imagine I had made such a case.

@@

June 24th, 2010
7:58 pm

Looks like Obama’s “stimulating” conversation isn’t gonna be too welcome at the G20. His Highnee is due to arrive tomorrow.

Should make for an interesting read.

Del

June 24th, 2010
7:59 pm

Scout@ 7:20,

Couldn’t stop laughing. Depicts doggie units…just kidding.

Josef,

You do have a great sense of humor and I mean it in all seriousness. i.e. @7:25pm

Gator Joe

June 24th, 2010
8:00 pm

Jay,
The General probably had to be dismissed, if for no other reason than as example to his subordinates. He probably wouldn’t tolerate his behavior and poor judgement in one of his ncos or junior officers. Having said that, if he really is as described he has a bright future in politics where he would have more freedom to express himself and perhaps do some good, especially if he is socially liberal. His opinion of Cheney is probably shared by other military personnel. Mr. “4 deferrments” wouldn’t serve, but hasn’t met a war he doesn’t like, that is, as long as it’s someone else doing the fighting.

Del

June 24th, 2010
8:00 pm

Jay,

If I misunderstood, my bad.

TaxPayer

June 24th, 2010
8:04 pm

Come on down. The beaches are fine. Riiiight. Bring our troops home and put them to work protecting our beaches.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

June 24th, 2010
8:20 pm

Taxxie- Why don’t you get off your fat ass and protect the beaches?

Moderate Line

June 24th, 2010
8:21 pm

The housing market droping.
Unemployment at 10%.
The Gulf becoming a huge oil slick.
Losing the war in Afghanistan.

Gay’s in the military is the least of our problems.

@@

June 24th, 2010
8:23 pm

The Pakistanis just convicted 5 American muslims to 10 years in prison for attempted terrorism. The clueless 5 are preening for the camera….grinning and laughing.

10 years in a Pakistani prison??? They have no idea what they just stepped into.

Good luck fellas! You’re gonna need it!

Weirdos!

Southern Comfort

June 24th, 2010
8:31 pm

Finn

Touchdown Jesus?!!? :Shock:

Southern Comfort

June 24th, 2010
8:32 pm

jt

June 24th, 2010
8:33 pm

DADT is merely a charade to amuse the talking heads concerning coorperate cannon fodder.

With the appeal, what have you won?

Pathetic.

A CONSERVATIVE

June 24th, 2010
8:34 pm

WHEwwwwwwww…BOOKMAN sure has a hangup about skin color…& queer nation..

@@

June 24th, 2010
8:43 pm

Blog comment at Huffington:

Petrol pours off each of us like an invisible sweat. The 20th century was propelled into the stratosphere on a geyser of oil, and nobody wanted to ask where it was coming from, or what it would cost us in the end.–Johann Hari

Ethereal….

Southern Comfort

June 24th, 2010
8:43 pm

Kinda off topic but I was skimming for something to make me laugh myself to sleep tonight.

Here is a good read from the previous thread about the guy with the trailer:

Mama Says

June 24th, 2010
6:09 pm
Let’s help you libs out a little, this man is CORRECT when only 50% of the people in this welfare laden country work and one of them gets taxpayer money back they are getting their tax money back. When one of you free loaders refuse to work or pay taxes but rather live off your monthly check–WHEN YOU ARE CAPABLE OF WORKING- you are getting the money that the government took from those that do work ! and that is what you are, a parasite ! look you the definition or do you need the government to guy you a dictionary ?

Unless I missed something terrible, when did our unemployment shoot to 50%? Talk about getting your talking points crossed. If we had 50% unemployment, there would probably be mass riots and looting going on. I enjoy a good debate between liberal and conservative thinking people, but when one side is represented by something like this, it’s the old proverbial one-legged man in an a$$-kicking contest.

I think I understand the point the person is trying to make. However, before you get on your soapbox to preach to the masses, it’s sometimes best to think your argument through point by point first.

Southern Comfort

June 24th, 2010
9:00 pm

Time to call it a night, but here’s a thought nugget for the evening from George Clinton and Parliament Funkadelic:

Free your mind and you know what will follow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1taZIoY8LA

G’nite all

Del

June 24th, 2010
9:00 pm

SoCo,

Yep, I agree, however, I’ll only add it’s the sides that keep America in balance. let’s pray we always remain this way.

Normal

June 24th, 2010
9:06 pm

@@

June 24th, 2010
9:07 pm

When I look around within say….an 8X8 area in which I find myself, I can find petroleum byproducts everywhere.

My entire computer, keyboard, screen, speakers, mouse, mousepad and cords.

My telephone, pens, stapler, sunglasses, the plastic lid on my can of almonds (a handful a day is very good for you), tape measurer, bicycle helmet, eraser, plastic bottle that my screen cleaner comes in, glue stick, vent covers, plastic binder, flip flops, wastebasket and liner, light switches, ceiling fan, blinds, capsules, the handles on my scissors, plastic tabs on my file folders, tape.

It’s everywhere.

TaxPayer

June 24th, 2010
9:07 pm

Whine,

Quit lookin’ at my ass.

TaxPayer

June 24th, 2010
9:10 pm

When I look around within say….an 8X8 area in which I find myself, I can find petroleum byproducts everywhere.

Destin is waiting for you. Every 8×8 area on the beach and in the water has those petroleum byproducts. Well, maybe not byproducts. Just plain petroleum. Go for it. Take the family.

Del

June 24th, 2010
9:12 pm

Normal,

LOL..you sure know how and where to come up with the the good ones. Semper Fi

@@

June 24th, 2010
9:15 pm

TaxPayer:

There’s nothing to keep me from going to the gulf. Your fear of the unknown may keep you away, but I know the people could use my vacation dollars.

Talk is cheap.

My neighbor got a bunch of guys together and chartered a fishing boat just last week. The fish fry is scheduled for next month.

Scout

June 24th, 2010
9:19 pm

josef @ 7:45

You’re guessing !!

TaxPayer

June 24th, 2010
9:22 pm

Perhaps it is best that we not eat so much seafood anyway.

As for your cheap talk, @@, what of it. Head on down and play on the beach. Take your whole family. Take your kids. Let ‘em play in the oil. It probably makes a real good sunscreen.

SPQR(laissez Faire)

June 24th, 2010
9:23 pm

I’ll be in Cedar Key FLA fishing this weekend, If i see obama or Bite me, I’ll flip them a bird for ya.

SPQR(laissez Faire)

June 24th, 2010
9:25 pm

I think most Active duty will notice a difference when the policy changes, because look around..their commander in chief is a 6′2″ d*ck, and the VP is certainly an Azz

TaxPayer

June 24th, 2010
9:27 pm

On the brighter side, the benzene coming from that oil spill does tend to dissipate pretty rapidly.

Hillbilly Deluxe

June 24th, 2010
9:32 pm

It’d be nice if everybody could afford a vacation.

Hugh G.

June 24th, 2010
9:34 pm

Is there something you’d like to tell us JayJay?

@@

June 24th, 2010
9:34 pm

Taxpayer:

Like I said….

too afraid to help out the people in the gulf.

I’ll bet you’ve got plastic covering all your furniture, dont’cha?

I’m off to bed.

Jay

June 24th, 2010
9:35 pm

Is there something you’re dying to know, Hugh?

TDone

June 24th, 2010
9:36 pm

People believe what they want to believe.

Del

June 24th, 2010
9:40 pm

Certainly there will need to be some inclusion in the U.C.M.J. covering, drop the soap games.

neo-Carlinist

June 24th, 2010
9:43 pm

I mentioned this in BB’s blog earlier today. consider this: it was recently reported that Afghanistan and Central Asia holds one of the world’s largest caches of lithium and other precious metals. we have a president who is urging us to become independent of foreign oil and committed to alternative energy sources and green stuff. anyone who has a laptop, Blackberry, cell phone or hybrid car knows these things use LITHIUM batteries. so, this POTUS runs on a “out of Iraq” platform and ramps up (surge and Predator strikes) the war in Central Asia. is it me? Lithium is the new pertroleum, folks. and Obama is the new Bush. I’ll stop there, Biden is not the new Cheney… he’s the same old Biden.

TaxPayer

June 24th, 2010
9:46 pm

Like I said, @@, Destin awaits you and your family. Go for it.

josef nix

June 24th, 2010
9:52 pm

laissez faire @ 9:25

Okay, I know I’m supposed to be offended, but, I DID laugh first…!

Jay and Hugh…

Now doesn’t that have a certain, well, uh…panache?

Scout…
Hey, I was taught myself to keep ‘em guessing…up to a point! :-)

Del

June 24th, 2010
9:54 pm

G’night, y’all and remember when you awaken in the morning and look into the eyes of your significant other, don’t ask, don’t tell.

itpdude

June 24th, 2010
10:06 pm

Wait a minute. Obama fired the guy.

And now we are supposed to listen to the guy?

You can’t have it both ways, Bookman. Where is your editorial that the guy shouldn’t be fired?

josef nix

June 24th, 2010
10:38 pm

itpdude

“You can’t have it both ways, Bookman.”

What is he doing to have it both ways? McChrystal committed a breech of command. He was cashiered for that. He also has been a proponent of gays serving openly in the military and has welcomed them into his inner circle. The one does not exclude the other. Jay could have ignored this aspect of who the man is. He chose not to and I applaud him for that.

Scout

June 24th, 2010
10:54 pm

josef:

Did you have to use “inner circle” ?

BTW: Did I ever tell you why there are Marines on board Navy ships ?

[...] From Jay Bookman’s Blog: [...]

Scout

June 24th, 2010
11:26 pm

“OFF TOPIC #1″

From a blogger on a site I was reading:

“The Portland Oregonian is a far-left radical liberal newspaper that’s in the tank with the Democrat Party, and that’s why they killed the story (sexual accusation against Al Gore). Had this been G.W. Bush or any Republican, this same newspaper would have gone balistics with a daily “report”. It’s the same with Obama. There’s no way on the planet that this newspaper, or any Main Stream Media news organization in America, would criticize Obama for anything.”

HOW TRUE, HOW TRUE …………….

Scout

June 24th, 2010
11:33 pm

These guys look like they are running from the U.S. Border Patrol !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VZgBl-t7vY

SPQR(laissez Faire)

June 25th, 2010
12:04 am

josef nix..

I don’t think you should be offended, I think as long as the field commanders feel it won’t be an issue, gays and lesbians should be allowed to serve equally, I’m also pro gay marriage as WTF business does government have licensing and taxing any union..but everything i say about Hugo Lula Jong Ill hussein obama and his plagiaristic sidekick, Bite me, (I got an F in 8th grade for not properly citing, he got elected..more proof americans are dumb) is TRUE.

SPQR(laissez Faire)

June 25th, 2010
12:07 am

Finally finished a major account, 18 days without a break, now 3 days of fishing..plus I love to drive interstates at night..Ciao!

ken

June 25th, 2010
12:41 am

After reading the comments I can see that most of the people on this board have not been in the military. And you would not serve either. I have a DD214. Go Army.