A lot of damage in Gulf can’t be counted, compensated
Allen Kruse ran a charter-boat operation out of Gulf Shores, Ala., taking tourists and fisherman out to fishing grounds now closed because of the oil spill. Even after the leak is sealed and the oil disappears, the chance that the fish will reappear in numbers large enough to sustain that kind of livelihood looks pretty dim.
The Washington Post tells the rest of the story:
Two weeks and two days ago, with his fishing grounds closed, Kruse, 55, took a job working for BP’s cleanup crew. For the very people who’d caused the mess.
Other boat captains said Kruse, like them, found the effort confusing, overly bureaucratic and frustrating. He told them to keep their heads down, not to worry about the hassles. But those close to him saw he was losing weight.
On Wednesday morning, Kruse drove to his boat as usual. As the deckhands prepared for the day’s work, Kruse, as the captain, was supposed to turn on the generator. But after a few minutes, the crew members said, they didn’t hear anything and went looking for him. A deckhand found him in the wheelhouse, shot in the head.
… Thad Stewart, a friend who works at the Orange Beach, Ala., marina where Kruse docked his boat, said he noticed a difference about the time Kruse went to work for BP. “He stopped talking. That’s all there is to it. He stopped talking,” Stewart said. “I’m not saying that this was the cause of it . . . but he was seeing what was his home, which was the Gulf of Mexico, just be slowly destroyed.”
Frank Kruse, his identical twin brother who is a probate lawyer in Mobile, Ala., said his brother was waiting for about $70,000 in payments from BP for working two of his boats for the past two weeks. “There’s no question in my mind that this is directly related to the oil spill,” Frank Kruse said in a phone interview Wednesday night. “He had been losing weight. Every day he was worried.”
He said his brother “was very, very upset at the way BP was handling the oil spill. There was a lot of wasted money, a lot of wasted time. They’d give him a different story of what needed to be done.”
I guess Allen Kruse didn’t think he’d ever get his life back.
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BADA BING
June 24th, 2010
2:39 pm
BP has just begun to feel pain. Wait till the oil hits the beaches at Cuba, the Bahamas, Mexico, Venezuela, and Central America. Lawsuits are just beginning.
Jackie
June 24th, 2010
2:40 pm
@Scout
Since you were in the tri-border area, did you ever get over to Laos? Do you believe that more ordinance was dropped in Laos that in Vietnam? They have so many unexploded bombs and bomblets from the cluster bombs, Laotians live and work among the bombs/bomblets and many are still killed daily from this unexploded ordinance.
Do you think we didn’t have enough ammunition to support our troops?
And, we were able to support our “friends” in the highlands, including the Mong and Montanyards(sic), to name a few.
Jackie
June 24th, 2010
2:43 pm
@Scout
Where you be?; anymore fairy tales for those that you try to impress?
Opus
June 24th, 2010
2:45 pm
Scout,
Next time you go out on patrol, pick up some faded glory jeans at walmart…..
Scout
June 24th, 2010
2:48 pm
Jackie:
You couldn’t be more wrong:
1) Hamburger Hill (5/10 -20/1969) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Hamburger_Hill
2) Ripcord (7/1-23/1970) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Fire_Support_Base_Ripcord
You are really embarrassing yourself now. Those were two separate battles almost a year apart.
If you won’t read the book I can’t make you ………………
I don’t believe you were at Camp Carroll on 12/25/67 or 1/1/68 so you wouldn’t know about the incoming vs. outgoing artillery now would you?
I am actually growing weary of supplying all of this documentation to you.
Outhouse GoKart
June 24th, 2010
2:49 pm
Those Laotian and Cambodian women are attractive.
Hillbilly Deluxe
June 24th, 2010
2:51 pm
Having, unfortunately, known several people who killed themselves, I see this a little differently. The vast majority of the time, you never see it coming and if you do, you are often powerless to do anything to stop it. No one can ever really know what causes another person to lose all hope or why one will keep plugging when another can go no farther. The one certainty is that it will leave those around the person with questions that’ll never be answered.
So my thoughts and prayers are with the man’s family and friends; they have a rough road ahead. As the headline on this piece says, not everything in this world can be fixed with dollars.
Scout
June 24th, 2010
2:59 pm
Oh Jackkkkiiieeee ……… 2:48 !!
Jackie
June 24th, 2010
3:04 pm
@Scout
You are right, Hamburger Hill was 1969, not 1970. Still does not prove your contention that ammunition or cover fire was denied the 101st.
Being a Camp Carroll in 1967 for a violation of a cease-fire is an example of what you experienced. Were you at An Khe or Pleiku during Tet of 1968? Did you witness the cease-fire violations during that period.
Did you witness the incursions into North Vietnam, Laos or Cambodia during your stay in country? Did you notice how we failed to support our allies in the highlands while you were in country?
SPQR(laissez Faire)
June 24th, 2010
3:06 pm
The land isn’t ruined forever, no matter how much oil spills, it will dissipate quickly. Within 2-3 years after they stem the flow, noone will know it happened just from looking at the water or beaches.
SPQR(laissez Faire)
June 24th, 2010
3:06 pm
And dollars do fix damn near everything..not quite, but damn near..
RW-(the original)
June 24th, 2010
3:11 pm
…more ordinance was…
…this unexploded ordinance.
Ordinance? Really?
/drive by…
@@
June 24th, 2010
3:17 pm
Merciful Percival! The ocean isn’t the only attraction in the gulf. Go down and support those people. EAT MORE TURF, LESS SURF!
BP could pay the cost of importing seafood.
Charter fishing? Howzabout Eco Awareness charters? Deep Sea Trophy Fishing, way, waaayyy out.
This is one of the best sites I’ve found for tracking impacts.
josef nix
June 24th, 2010
3:18 pm
Normal
At St. Elsewhere
Scout
June 24th, 2010
3:26 pm
Jackie:
“You are talking about what went on with the 101st at Hamburger Hill in 1970. I know personally, a 1st Lt that was part of that operation. He has NEVER indicated that they had trouble getting ammuntion to their unit(s).”
1) Thank you for admitting that you were wrong and that the Battles of Hamburger Hill and Firebase Ripcord were two separate events almost a year apart.
2) Now, if you will read the book you will discover that when companies and platoons protecting Firebase Ripcord were being over-run, they called for artillery fire support. Basic stuff. There were times when the battery they contacted told them they had “already expended their allocated rounds for the month” and they would have to contact another battery. This “allocation” per battery had been set by the U.S. Congress. While all of this was going on ……….. good men died for lack of immediate fire support.
3) I never got any farther south than Quang Tri but did get as far north as the river in the DMZ that separated North from South Vietnam. I was not at the other locations you mentioned.
4) If you will also read “An American Amnesia” you will realize just how much the U.S. Congress failed to support our allies.
Have to run for awhile …………. enjoyed the exchange.
P.S. I try to be as truthful as I can in my posts. If I make a mistake I correct it. I hope in the future you will accept my posts as accurate unless you have firsthand knowledge otherwise.
Take care ……………
stands for decibels
June 24th, 2010
3:27 pm
> …this unexploded ordinance.
Ordinance? Really?
What, you’ve never experienced laws that took awhile to blow up?
@@
June 24th, 2010
3:29 pm
Shout out to all the “lesser” Saints…
meet me Somewhere.
(ISH)
Grumpy
June 24th, 2010
3:30 pm
Anecdotal reports are always emotional, and often help fuel knee-jerk reactions.
I have a bigger question – why aren’t all hands on deck to skim/contain/burn this oil? 60 days in, why hasn’t the government been able to get more people and equipment out there to do the job? This is the big government the lefties want and love, so why is it STILL failing us?
I don’t blame Obama for the immedate (2-3 week) aftermath. But now we all know the dung has hit the fan. So why aren’t we throwing EVERYTHING we’ve got at the problem?
Hillbilly Deluxe
June 24th, 2010
3:33 pm
I wonder how many people realize that in the early 19th century “Laissez Faire” was a quite liberal concept. Time does have a way of turning things upside down.
Finn McCool
June 24th, 2010
3:35 pm
What else you want to throw at it, Grumpy?
Finn McCool
June 24th, 2010
3:36 pm
How do the Dutch play such good soccer? Aren’t they all high as kites?
josef nix
June 24th, 2010
3:39 pm
When I made the comment earlier that I personally considered suicide one of the most selfish act the human being was capable of, I also added that it was not up to me to judge what drove them to that act. I was interested in the reaction and from whom. I said it in as plain and Engrish as I could master. A soldier who throws himself an a grenade to save fellow soldiers is committing suicide if we use that term to mean willful ending of one’s own life. S/he is a hero(ine), Someone who sticks their head in the oven because the spouse got caught with a piece on the side and leaves some high drama note, is something probably motivated by the far less noble. It, too, is a willful ending of one’s own life. When my Mama, in the final stages of cancer, upped the morphine to go on out with the least fuss, that, too was willful ending of her own life. (And I pray G-d that if I am in such a position that I have the presence of mind and wherewithal to do the same.) In all these cases, though, it is the supremely selfish act. That is why I said what I did about not judging what motivates the individual to take that action.
Looking for a change
June 24th, 2010
3:40 pm
Because people don’t have enough money to cover their checks, I’m looking for a change.
Bank of America Corp. and its rivals are moving away from free checking accounts as they grapple with losing millions in fee revenue from new regulations on overdrafts.
Thanks for nothing, deadbeats.
Bosch
June 24th, 2010
3:42 pm
Looking for a change,
Credit Unions all the way.
Finn,
Maybe they play good soccer BECAUSE they are high as kites?
Hehehehe. Italy’s a going home!
Bosch
June 24th, 2010
3:43 pm
Finn,
And in other soccer/drug humor – Bong has been replaced with Aboubakar for Cameroon.
josef nix
June 24th, 2010
3:52 pm
Hillbilly
Your comment on laissez-faire being liberal was interesting. From time to time some of the posters here and my colleagues elsewhere question my labeling of myself a liberal. If it doesn’t fit the latest memo to the Engrish speaking partisans, if “conservative” and my line of philosophical thought is “theirs” then I must be a “conservative.” It “liberal” and my opinion doesn’t agree with the latest memo, then I must be a “conservative.” I find it all rather amusing. So few using the labels have the vaguest notion of what the terms mean, much less the past contributions of each, In my opinion this is why we have such a difficult time reaching the centrist point which, I believe, is where most of the population is at any given time on any given “hot topic.” Centricism is not my own cup of tea, but that’s me, not my society.
Jackie
June 24th, 2010
3:53 pm
@Scout
Your contention about a field unit calling for artillery cover and being denied because of allotments, I find to be absolutely ludicrous. Do not believe it for a moment. Since there Airmobile concept was being employed and there was a possibility of any unit being overrun, I can gurantee you that all forces in the US military would be brought to bear to stop this from happening.
As for support of our “allies” where are most of the Mong and Montgards today? They are in the USA.
N-GA
June 24th, 2010
3:57 pm
Looking – If you or a close relative have served in the ,military, then choose USAA. They are terrific and have a complete set of bank/brokerage/insurance products, low costs/fees, and first rate customer service. BTW, they have the highest possible rating a financial institution can receive relative to the health/stability of the company.
@@
June 24th, 2010
4:04 pm
josef:
If it doesn’t fit the latest memo to the Engrish speaking partisans, if “conservative” and my line of philosophical thought is “theirs” then I must be a “conservative.” It “liberal” and my opinion doesn’t agree with the latest memo, then I must be a “conservative.”
To be sure, you ARE queer.
(IW&SH)
getalife
June 24th, 2010
4:06 pm
Another worker drowned bringing the total to thirteen so far.
Hillbilly Deluxe
June 24th, 2010
4:09 pm
Josef
Well in my view, and I didn’t originate the idea, the idea that a man could compete and get ahead through his own efforts was quite liberal in what was in many ways still a patrician society.
Of course, the granting of corporate “personhood” defies description to me. As you know, most early corporations were granted charters by the state, for a specific lengrh of time to accomplish a certain goal or task. It was later in the 19th century when they morphed towards what they are now.
I’ve said before that I think the words liberal and conservative have lost all meaning in most cases. There are still a few people who are one or the other in the classic sense but they are few and far between.
As for me, I think I defy description.
josef nix
June 24th, 2010
4:13 pm
@@
Cute! Of all the words we use, I actually prefer “queer” since it describes a lot more of me than just my sex life! When folks, almost always breeders, tell me, “don’t call yourself that,” they, having themselves used it as the n word plenty of times, I tell them “I was queer a long time before I knew I was ‘gay!”
Scout
June 24th, 2010
4:13 pm
Jackie:
You told me once before “I was full of crap” (and Jay basically said the same thing about my contention on the lack of proper artillery support) until I was able to prove to you that Hamburger Hill and Firebase Ripcord were two separate battles. I find it odd that you question another Veteran’s credibility on this? I have no agenda here ……….. I’m just repeating history. I agree it’s ludicrous but if it happened it happened.
I’m only telling you what is documented in the book about how the artillery fire support was impeded when they needed it most and immediately. This is not something I dreamed up out of thin air. If I had not read the book and discovered all of the political ramifications therein I would not even have known about this battle as I in the Marines not the Army. As it was (and this is again DOCUMENTED in the book) the Army kept the entire incident/battle pretty much hidden until 1985 (kind of like the USS Liberty debacle involving Israel). It’s up to you to read about it or not. I would think you would want to?
In addition, they (Firebase Ripcord Veterans) have a website if you would like more information or want to do more research.
http://www.ripcordassociation.com/
josef nix
June 24th, 2010
4:16 pm
Hilbilly
“As for me, I think I defy description.
”
Oh, no! You’re queer! (ref. mine and @@’s exchange!)
Lord Help Us
June 24th, 2010
4:19 pm
‘I have no agenda here…’
Priceless…
Jefferson
June 24th, 2010
4:23 pm
So who’s up for a tax increase to “throw everything at the problem”?
Hillbilly Deluxe
June 24th, 2010
4:24 pm
Josef
Actually, what I’ve most often been referred to is “quare”. In my world, that means odd, stand-offish, different, kinda sorta. About half my family is known that way locally, as in “they’re a quare bunch”. It’s one of colloquial terms you either know or you don’t. I believe it’s origin is Irish but not sure.
AmVet
June 24th, 2010
4:24 pm
Hillbilly, to your point about “Laissez Faire” being a quite liberal concept, of course it is!
Economic liberalism is the economic component of classical liberalism. It is an economic philosophy that supports and promotes laissez-faire economics. Proponents of economic liberalism believe political freedom and social freedom are inseparable with economic freedom, and use philosophical arguments promoting liberty to justify economic liberalism and the free market.
It is to me yet another of the many ironies of the Republicans who call themselves, and mistakenly believe they are in fact, conservatives.
And as josef noted, most of these so called conservatives have very little if any clue what it really is. I know, I’ve asked repeatedly.
Bosch
June 24th, 2010
4:25 pm
http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-politics-elections/palin-events-unexpected-hurdle-556123.html
Well, well, it seems Bible Spice ain’t all that.
josef nix
June 24th, 2010
4:34 pm
Hillbilly
I believe its Scots-Scots Irish-Irish in the pronunciation and usage you grew up with. In my area it was pronounced more kw-air and was not particularly derogatory. It was used most often to refer to what we’d call “challenged” today! “That youngest ‘un of theirs is a mite qu-air, but then that whole bunch of ‘em’s got a little sumpin wrong with ‘em. Bless their hearts.”
SPQR(laissez Faire)
June 24th, 2010
4:44 pm
CHICAGOLAND BOMBSHELL: Obama knew plot to trade Cabinet post for appointing Jarrett to Senate — Testimony…
RAHM DELIVERED THE LIST…
top aide to former Gov. Rod Blagojevich said he believed Barack Obama knew of Blagojevich’s plot to win himself a presidential Cabinet post in exchange for appointing Valerie Jarrett to the U.S. Senate.
John Harris, Blagojevich’s former chief of staff, testified Wednesday in the former governor’s corruption trial that three days after the Nov. 4, 2008, presidential election, the ex-governor told Harris he felt confident Obama knew he wanted to swap perks.
Hillbilly Deluxe
June 24th, 2010
4:45 pm
Josef
“Kw-air” is pretty close to our pronunciation, although our pronunciation of “air” isn’t exactly the excepted norm. I don’t really know how to spell it but with your roots I’m sure you know the way it’s pronounced up here. It’s not necessarily derogatory and often isn’t. As to “challenged”, we’d be inclined to refer to that as “touched” or a “little off” or “not quite right”. Of course, whether or not something is derogatory is often in the attitude of the speaker. Depends on who is saying it and who they are saying it to.
theyeshaveit
June 24th, 2010
4:53 pm
josef, of course “queer” is a versatile word in the lexicon which can be used at once as a noun, an adjective or an adverb. Thus, we could say, “The queer queer walked queerly down the road.”
Scout
June 24th, 2010
4:54 pm
Lord Help Us:
‘I have no agenda here…’
We are talking about an historical event here. Either the Battle of Firebase Ripcord happened as recorded or not. One way or the other. That is not an agenda.
An “agenda” would be my opinion of why the battle was fought, should it have been, etc.
Just thought I would clarify that for you because I “do” have an agenda on most things but I can’t change history.
Doggone/GA
June 24th, 2010
4:55 pm
“I asked the question in all seriousness and the answer seems to be, “yes, suck it up.” Social Darwinism?”
No, not necessarily. I was blunt because I felt it needed to be a blunt answer…but I see nothing contradictory in then giving someone with deeper problems some help in “sucking it up” As has been said here, depression is an individual problem, but suicide is the final way to relieve pain the person can no longer see a way to cope with. And that is the tragedy of it. There ARE ways to cope, but when you get to a point where you can’t see those ways…you DO need help. All too often, the ones who need help the most are the least likely to get it…because they won’t seek it. I’d say this poor man was one of those, so ending his own pain became all-consuming, and he ended it.
Scout
June 24th, 2010
4:57 pm
SPQR(laissez Faire) @ 4:44:
Of course he did – it’s the Chicago way ……….. and that’s why I believe the wire was shut down so prematurely as even the Bush Administration didn’t want to risk the national tumult if Obama got himself on tape for an indictable/impeachable offense.
theyeshaveit
June 24th, 2010
4:57 pm
SPQR, I feel confident that you do not know fact from fiction. Am I right because I “feel confident” about that? No?
Scout
June 24th, 2010
5:01 pm
How looooooowwwww can you go ?
Headline: “New poll shows Obama approval at all-time low”
“A new NBC/Wall Street Journal poll finds Obama’s approval rating to be the lowest it’s been since he took office 18 months ago. According to the poll, only 45 percent approve of the job Obama is doing in the White House, compared with 48 percent who disapprove. And the numbers only get worse from there: Sixty-two percent of respondents believe the country is on the wrong track — the highest number recorded since just before Election Day in 2008 — and just one-third believe things are going to get better, a 7-point drop since a month ago and the lowest such number in the Obama presidency.”
Scout
June 24th, 2010
5:03 pm
josef:
What say ye?
Headline: “10-Year-Old Grand Marshal at Gay Rights Parade Sparks Controversy Across U.S.”
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/06/24/year-old-grand-marshal-gay-rights-parade-sparks-controversy/
theyeshaveit
June 24th, 2010
5:07 pm
Scout said, Of course he did – it’s the Chicago way ……….. and that’s why I believe…
Come on. The Chicago way? That has to be an AM radio buzz word like Messiah, socialist, etc. Are you THAT gullible that if it is said on wing nut media it must ex cathedra? Scout, show some discipline and logic in your conclusions; not just naivete and assumptions. You and your slapstick buddy, SPQR have more a proclivity for silly jism rather than syllogisms.
josef nix
June 24th, 2010
5:10 pm
Doggone–
I understand what you are saying, and believe me, I do not mean anything disparaging at the individual level and I know what you mean by what you said, and that, in the position of counseling, you would not be so crass as to say suck it up. I used the phrase on purpose myself because of the charged nature and to get a gut level response from the posters who might consider it. I think the word you and I would use is “cope.”
Hillbilly…
Remember Brett Butler’s “That chile just ain’t right?”
eyes
So much of language has to do with the part of speech and in which context it is being used. There’s an old saying down home among the Cajuns when asked if Coona33 is “bad.” It depends on whether it’s d*mned Coona33 or not, and you don’t have to say d*mned for me to know what you mean…
Southern language lovers…
Remembered this one the other day, “well all’s I can say is he needed killin’.”
Scout
June 24th, 2010
5:12 pm
theyeshaveit : LOL !
Hillbilly Deluxe
June 24th, 2010
5:14 pm
well all’s I can say is he needed killin’.
I’ve known some of those and a couple, it even came to pass.
Supper time is nigh.
@@
June 24th, 2010
5:15 pm
josef:
A lot of people, friends included call me odd, weird and strange. I always look at ‘em and say…
“Get used to it….I’m QUEER!” They hear me and say…
“See what I mean!!! Gaahhhh.” After all that, they say, “But we like you just like you are…wouldn’t want you to be any other way.”
Alrighty din! That’s settled.
theyeshaveit
June 24th, 2010
5:16 pm
It is not quite Friday yet, but all this talk of suicide reminded me of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gO7uemm6Yo
theyeshaveit
June 24th, 2010
5:17 pm
Scout, I guess you got my punch line.
josef nix
June 24th, 2010
5:27 pm
A lot depends on why the boy has come to take this stance. Is he doing it in defense of a loved and respected elder who is gay? Has someone in his family been discharged under DADT? Or has he been “coached?”
My very GOP arch conservative brother-in-law would take his little one to the gay pride festivities when she was little because he wanted her to grow up respecting her uncles and “y’all aren’t going to do it…” At age 10 she was aware of the social discrimination and of the wide range of people who were gay…our own kids were brought up without any “discussion” or “lecturing” on the matter, we simply “were…” Of the three, only one of them, the boy in the military, has found it necessary to make public stances on our behalf and I think you can see why. The younger boy’s response to such is now as it was in his childhood, “and…?” The girl will take a strong stance when someone else brings up the subject, but doesn’t feel the need to bang a drum. She did, though, beat the sh*t out of a neighbor kid when she was about 10 who had something unkind and nasty to say about us. How much of that was “political” and how much of it was the good old Southern value of “defending your own” was not at question. It was entirely the latter!
But like I said, I am more interested in why this boy has come to this stance. My initial reaction is that I really don’t think this is a particularly good idea simply from the PR value and his age. As we say down in Dixie, “I don’t care. It just don’t look right.”
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
June 24th, 2010
5:30 pm
Hey hole, you think is impeachable?
Obama knew of Blagojevich plot
Buh bye obozo!
Hello President BiteMe, hahahahaha, aahhh, yes.
josef nix
June 24th, 2010
5:30 pm
eyes
“silly jism rather than syllogisms”
I don’t care who you are, thass funny!
Doggone/GA
June 24th, 2010
5:34 pm
“I think the word you and I would use is “cope.””
Yes, I would use that word. I think for some people depression is a physical problem with their brain chemistry, for others it’s emotional, for others – one leads to the other, so it’s both. But I think a lot of people get started down the path to the kind of depression because they aren’t taught early on to deal with their emotional reactions. The “Pollyanna” syndrome, if you will…if I don’t think about bad things, they won’t happen. But if you don’t think about them, you are then unprepared to cope with them.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
June 24th, 2010
5:38 pm
WSJNBCNEWS: Confidence in Obama Waning…
That’s alright, he’s headed back to whatever third world hovel he came from, just sayin…
Glenn Beck
June 24th, 2010
5:39 pm
He was a producer and did not want to become one of the parasites.
Del
June 24th, 2010
5:46 pm
Man this global warming has this blog all fired up. Why even old Al Gore got all hot and bothered in a hotel room. He blamed it on global warming and that Tipper just didn’t understand.
Del
June 24th, 2010
5:52 pm
Well back out into the heat. y’all stay cool.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
June 24th, 2010
5:52 pm
That the American military thinks the Obama team is not up to the job of defeating Al Qaeda and winning a war which it is even terrified of calling by name. That those on the front line in a life-and-death struggle with a serious enemy think the President a wimp, the Vice President a blowhard, the national security adviser a “clown,” Ambassador Richard Holbrooke a man consumed by the need for relevance, and that the French act like…well…the French.
That’s what I’m saying…
Our little team of surrender monkeys.
josef nix
June 24th, 2010
6:01 pm
doggone
Granddaddy’s lesson was “hope for the best and be prepared for the worst.” I have found it sound advice in my own life’s journey…
TaxPayer
June 24th, 2010
6:20 pm
Whiner has a team of surrender monkeys. Whatever floats his ducky.
Southern Comfort
June 24th, 2010
6:43 pm
Tax
Maybe he’s been drinking this….
http://www.dogfish.com/brews-spirits/the-brews/brewpub-exclusives/surrender-monkey.htm
theyeshaveit
June 24th, 2010
8:17 pm
Normal said Josef, you said, “For the record, my personal opinion is that suicide is one of the most selfish acts the human being is capable of.”
Again I disagree. I believe that suicide is the most unselfish act a person can do. I’ll explain at St. Eslewhere, if you’re interested, but bottom line, it’s my body, my life.
Normal, I agree with Josef on the selfishness of suicide. I have, in fact, offline had discussions with people on this subject before and I have repeatedly expressed this idea.
If you think about it, the fact that we even call it “suicide” is telling in that “sui” is the Latinate prefix meaning self and te root “cide”, of course, means kill. But, yes, this is superficial. I believe that suicide is a selfish act, because, in most circumstances, the perpetrator has committed the act for his own self, while it is likely that others will be left behind who will suffer for it. I am not saying that Mr. Kruse did not consider the repercussions, but, in the end, he determined to ignore those repercussions in favor of his own need to escape. Now, I also agree with Josef that not all suicides are caused or motivated by the same circumstances. And suicide is also viewed differently in different cultures. We praise the heroics of our military, for example, when they go on what might be characterized as a “suicide mission” done for the sake of saving others( note not for selfish reasons). In World War II Japan, we could not fathom why the Japanese would commit “hara kiri” in stead of trying to save themselves. “Hara Kiri” is by no means a selfish act.
So, while I say that suicide is generally a selfish act, the motivation and the circumstances create exceptions to the rule.
theyeshaveit
June 24th, 2010
8:23 pm
SPQR, gives you a hate on, doesn’t it.
SPQR(laissez Faire)
June 24th, 2010
8:34 pm
I get my hate on within 10 minutes of leaving the house everyday. Everyday interactions with people provide more than ample reason to be misanthropic. Everyone in any sort of customer service job in this town is an abject moron, and at that, only half can speak english..i can make out the broken spanglish, but the ebonics is a lost cause..so I just wish them to the cornfield and smirk knowing somewhere down the line, their cuzin punkin will probably accidently shoot them with hiz big ol gun, just like boo got shot.