McChrystal ousted, replaced by Petraeus

President Obama dismissed Gen. McChrystal today.

“I welcome debate among my team, but I won’t tolerate division,” Obama said, noting the strict code of conduct required of our military. “The strength and greatness of our military is rooted in the fact that this code applies equally to newly enlisted privates and to general officer who command them.” He stressed the importance of the chain of command “and respect for civilian control over that chain of command.”

McChrystal, who met the president briefly this morning, released a statement confirming his resignation and reiterating his support for U.S. policy in Afghanistan.

Obama replaced McChrystal with Gen. David Petraeus. His standing and reputation should reassure leaders in Afghanistan and in NATO capitols while minimizing the chaos inevitable in a change of command.

Given the circumstances, the situation has been handled about as well and as swiftly as possible.

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Dave R.

June 23rd, 2010
6:51 pm

“Gen. McKrystal was lucky in that the Pentagon and his civilian bosses did not bring charges of insubordination against him.”

They didn’t because, unlike many on this blog, they actually READ McChrystal’s remarks directly attributed to him. He said ONE STINKIN’ THING about Amb. Richard Holbrooke. That’s it. ALL the rest were attributed to his aides or those below him.

All McChrystal knew was that he wasn’t going to get past the small-man in the White House, so he wisely chose not to fight that battle and tendered his resignation.

Dave R.

June 23rd, 2010
6:52 pm

First on the third! :D

Mick

June 23rd, 2010
6:54 pm

**Mr.Karl Marx…you liberals are getting your AS@ kicked reak good..JAY Marx….getting it kicked real good.**

The doors of your perception just might be closed.

josef nix

June 23rd, 2010
6:56 pm

The Bruin a Marxist? I hardly think so, a Jacobin, quite probably, but a Marxist? Nyanh… :-)

kayaker 71

June 23rd, 2010
6:57 pm

Patraeus should be the next Repub nominee for POTUS. No baggage, well educated, a natural leader who isn’t afraid of making decisions, respected world wide, PhD in world politics, distinguished military career…. what’s not to like?

AmVet

June 23rd, 2010
6:59 pm

Paul, you are of course correct. Many, many hours running up and down stadium steps and many, many more in the weight room. The funny part is that I never really even stepped into a gym until I was in my 40s.

josef, “spite, pure spite!” Yeah some of that too!

I ain’t checking out anytime soon, just to p!ss off the leg humpers, etc…

George Washington

June 23rd, 2010
6:59 pm

General Petraeus will request and get a massive “surge” in Afghanistan.

Obama promised to leave by late summer next year.

How’s that gonna work?

MoveOn.org will be covering the story for those who might be interested.

Saul Good

June 23rd, 2010
7:00 pm

Paul… not really. I wish I did… yet I know that fighting “terror” with more terror does not win. Has anyone learned anything from watching decades (actually millenniums) of what has taken place with Israel and her neighbors? Has anyone “won” that war yet?

Both we and they are fighting “beliefs” there…and that war can’t be won with bullets and bombs. Wish I had an answer as to how to win that war… I’m not even sure if Gandhi or MLK’s non violence methods would work in a war such as this.

Let me ask ANY of you here. If Israel gave land to the Palestinians… even if they split the land 50/50…do you think they would “get along” at that point and be friends? I don’t. It’s much deeper. How does one change one’s “beliefs” they were taught since childhood? Perhaps the ONLY way is to bring up the next generation(s) and to teach them from birth to love everyone equally. I don’t see that happening. Other “forces” seem to let those beliefs linger and perpetuate them.

md

June 23rd, 2010
7:01 pm

“Patraeus should be the next Repub nominee for POTUS.”

Might be why he was named as replacement – would be awful hard to pull out of an active theater of war to run for potus.

More oil is gushing today than was gushing yesterday

June 23rd, 2010
7:02 pm

Perhaps another 60-90 days to fix it? We’re on Day 65 already.

md

June 23rd, 2010
7:05 pm

“It’s much deeper. How does one change one’s “beliefs” they were taught since childhood?”

Considering it is the “birthplace” and foundation for many of those beliefs, doubt it will ever be remedied. It would truly take a “miracle” to end it – so odds are pretty slim.

Doggone/GA

June 23rd, 2010
7:06 pm

“How does one change one’s “beliefs” they were taught since childhood? ”

You think about them with open eyes and decide if you agree with them or not. If you don’t, you leave them behind you. That is the essence of being human…that you CAN analyze your own reactions and training and throw them overboard, IF you CHOOSE to.

josef nix

June 23rd, 2010
7:10 pm

George W

“General Petraeus will request and get a massive “surge” in Afghanistan.”

I think you’re probably right there….

josef nix

June 23rd, 2010
7:12 pm

“How does one change one’s “beliefs” they were taught since childhood?”

Become an apostate and proceed with the zeal of a convert? :-)

Saul Good

June 23rd, 2010
7:12 pm

Doggone/GA said: “…IF you CHOOSE to”

Not “brainwashing” the NEXT generation of humans might give them a running start towards peace.

Doggone/GA

June 23rd, 2010
7:14 pm

“Not “brainwashing” the NEXT generation of humans might give them a running start towards peace.”

But that still presupposes that THIS generation CHOOSES to change. But in any case it doesn’t matter, anyone can choose to change.

Saul Good

June 23rd, 2010
7:14 pm

“Become an apostate”

Works for me! :)

electrician

June 23rd, 2010
7:15 pm

Josef.AmVet,..yep..I got the ‘You shouldn’t be alive” treatment too,it really sank in when the interns started showing up and asking me questions.When I was released from the hospital I still had to go to the outpatient infusion clinic every morning to get a Heparin shot in the stomach(ARRGH!!!) until my PTINR was where they wanted it.On my first visit there the nurse looked at my chart and said”so,you’re that guy”..priceless.

Saul Good

June 23rd, 2010
7:17 pm

“But that still presupposes that THIS generation CHOOSES to change. But in any case it doesn’t matter, anyone can choose to change.”

EXACTLY!!!

But by TRYING to bring about change by “force”… or by using terror… that’s not a “choice”… and it’s far from working. I believe it just makes one dig in deeper.

md

June 23rd, 2010
7:17 pm

“Not “brainwashing” the NEXT generation of humans might give them a running start towards peace.”

Although I tend to agree with the “brainwashing” characterization, there remains the fact that no one knows which are being washed with fact or fiction.

Saul Good

June 23rd, 2010
7:20 pm

“there remains the fact that no one knows which are being washed with fact or fiction.”

Yup!

(either way…it creates a human who grows up and “believes” what they do regardless of the “facts”… add a little “fear” to the brainwashing of a child…and it creates a “believer” for life).

Doggone/GA

June 23rd, 2010
7:21 pm

“But by TRYING to bring about change by “force”… or by using terror… that’s not a “choice”… and it’s far from working. I believe it just makes one dig in deeper”

I agree about the force, up to a point. If we had been asked to come into Afghanistan to help protect it’s people from the force being exerted by the Taliban…that might have been a “war” that deserved to be fought. But yes, to go in and try to force the people to change…a fools errand.

md

June 23rd, 2010
7:23 pm

“it creates a human who grows up and “believes” what they do regardless of the “facts”…”

Regardless of what facts??

josef nix

June 23rd, 2010
7:23 pm

Saul

The proceed with the zeal of the convert! :-)

electrician
I still get the “hunh?” treatment any time I have to go to a new physician…mine was more attributable to family history. I knew it was coming from the time I can remember, so I was, I guess, ready for it when it came…I already knew to make the most of the moment so that now, on the other side, every moment is, for lack of a better word, a gift…I always relished life and all it brought, but now even more so…besides, I’ve still got some outstanding scores to even… :-)

Del

June 23rd, 2010
7:24 pm

AmVet, josef, electrician

AmVet , is correct about the values of physical fitness particularly when faced with a potentially terminal health condition. I was diagnosed with cancer 16 years ago, had surgery and worked out more than I even did since the military. 5 mile runs every other mornings, lap swims and weight work out on the other days. Declined chemo and radiation adjuvent therapy and had a met to the liver 4 years later. I went on the operating table in great physical condition and they only found one small lesion, where in most metastatic cancer conditions there are multiples with survival very low. Still around 16 years later. I thank God for my good fortune as I felt guided to pick up that fitness discipline.

md

June 23rd, 2010
7:25 pm

The only fact I am aware of is that there are no known facts.

josef nix

June 23rd, 2010
7:25 pm

md

“Regardless of what facts??”

The question I keep asking and for which I get no answers…

President Hussein

June 23rd, 2010
7:26 pm

Well now that’s settled…..Back to another round of golf!

Let me know how that Gulf oil spill whatchamacallit going, but don’t interrupt my private McCartney concert

Saul Good

June 23rd, 2010
7:26 pm

Doggone…I believe that by using “force”… we only created more terrorists…and continue to do so. I mean if my own father/mother/brother/sister were murdered by another invading force from a far away land when I was a child… I myself would not want to murder all others from that far away land… but I’d be effected deeply by it. Most are NOT like me…I believe that MOST “would” want to one day avenge the death of their family member whom they loved.

And so…..the cycle of distrust and hate continues…

Brett

June 23rd, 2010
7:27 pm

Overfed ego – underfed intellect. There’s nothing to ever be “won” in Afghan – he should’ve played the role of the continual US idiot.
A nother “hero.” Another “Patriot.”

josef nix

June 23rd, 2010
7:28 pm

Del
In all seriousness, I do attribute mine to good physical condition, good mental condition, and good spiritual condition… and, of course, pure spite! :-)

@@

June 23rd, 2010
7:28 pm

Finally! I get to say this.

AmVet, I’m impressed…really, REALLY impressed.

Doggone/GA

June 23rd, 2010
7:30 pm

“I believe that by using “force”… we only created more terrorists…and continue to do so”

Of course we did, and still do.

Saul Good

June 23rd, 2010
7:31 pm

Josef: “and, of course, pure spite!”

Now THAT will keep one’s heart ticking!!!

Del

June 23rd, 2010
7:32 pm

josef,

Been moderated for some strange reason. I posted never let the XXXXXXX get you down, no matter what form they take. Off to chow, be back later.

josef nix

June 23rd, 2010
7:34 pm

Saul
@ 7:26

And yet you don’t seem to understand the trailer/Confederate flag lot? It goes on from generation to generation…if you can understand it abroad, why can you not understand it among your own neighbors for who YOU are the invader? I’m not at all saying that I approve or agree with them, but I do understand it….

It’s just like Unmentionable said during the Iraq invasion, “and there they go again, with no plan for Reconstruction, and. best case scenario, 150 years from now two fat and sassy Iraqis will be sitting on the balcony in a prestige postal code in Baghdad cursing the Yankee invader in Arabic, and it won’t lose much in the translation…”

md

June 23rd, 2010
7:34 pm

“I mean if my own father/mother/brother/sister were murdered by another invading force from a far away land when I was a child… I myself would not want to murder all others from that far away land… but I’d be effected deeply by it. Most are NOT like me…I believe that MOST “would” want to one day avenge the death of their family member whom they loved.”

Good thing the Germans and Japanese don’t think like you do.

electrician

June 23rd, 2010
7:36 pm

Del..16 years! excellent,like a couple of cancer survivors I know,your willingness to get tough and fight has made the difference in your life,the right attitude goes a long way.

md

June 23rd, 2010
7:38 pm

“Regardless of what facts??”

The question I keep asking and for which I get no answers…”

OK Jo, I’ll give you the answer – there are no facts – now, carry on with your beliefs.

Southern Comfort

June 23rd, 2010
7:40 pm

I believe that by using “force”… we only created more terrorists…and continue to do so.

I understand your point and agree with you to a degree. However, if someone keeps hitting at you continuously, at some point you have to hit back with enough force that they realize that they need to stop. Any aid we give to countries is seen as “meddling in affairs”. That’s one of the rallying points for anti-American sentiment. The easiest way to remedy that would be to quit sending foreign aid.

Let each deal with their own. If it’s not in our most dire national security, let them help themselves. That would probably bring economic pain all around the world, but oh well. We won’t be in their business anymore.

Dusty

June 23rd, 2010
7:43 pm

Well, AmVet, that does explain a lot. Glad you recovered. It takes a lot of meaness to fight that hard!
—————————
But EMERGENCY!!!!

Did Redneck say he might get “stripped nakid and tied to a tree”? Heaven help us. Some sights are not fit for human eyes. That is one of ‘em.

Just think, RedNeck as bare as a newborn baby!!! ARGHHHH There’ll be panic in the streets!!!….

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

June 23rd, 2010
7:43 pm

Maybe obozo should install his giant mouth over that leaky pipe?

md

June 23rd, 2010
7:46 pm

“I believe that by using “force”… we only created more terrorists…and continue to do so.”

And I believe this is another chicken and egg argument. Who started what………… and when.

AmVet

June 23rd, 2010
7:46 pm

“Well, AmVet, that does explain a lot. Glad you recovered. It takes a lot of meaness to fight that hard!”

Thanks, Dusty!

Del, salute! Glad you beat it, ya badass!

Doggone/GA

June 23rd, 2010
7:49 pm

“And I believe this is another chicken and egg argument. Who started what………… and when”

It doesn’t matter, what matters is which side has the courage to reject continuing on that circle. And there IS an answer to the “chicken and egg”

Dusty

June 23rd, 2010
7:49 pm

Besides AmVet, all of you who have made miraculous recoveries, glad for you. And glad you had the best medical system in the world to take care of you. That does help!!

josef nix

June 23rd, 2010
7:50 pm

md

“OK Jo, I’ll give you the answer – there are no facts – now, carry on with your beliefs.”

I agree and I do…I just wish the missionaries of the “other viewpoint” would accept the same premise or offer me more “proof” than I can offer them…

Saul Good

June 23rd, 2010
7:51 pm

“And yet you don’t seem to understand the trailer/Confederate flag lot? It goes on from generation to generation…if you can understand it abroad, why can you not understand it among your own neighbors for who YOU are the invader? I’m not at all saying that I approve or agree with them, but I do understand it….”

Josef… how am “I” the invader? First of all…this is ALL the USofA…right? It’s NOT 2 separate countries last I checked. Second…my ancestors were still overseas during the “war of aggression” as many like to call it that had ancestors here at the time. I don’t try to “change” anyone. Not to be an atheist…or a vegan…or anything. I don’t go on their property and hand out literature…I don’t attend their cult’s churches or synagogues and debate them… but what I was talking about earlier…i stand by. Someone said that it’s basically “dems” who choose not to work and live off of welfare. I simply stated that there are many up HERE who are NOT dems and who live off of welfare. That’s a fact. Some of them are the very same one’s who lash out at our federal government and it’s “spending” policies. What would they do if those checks stopped coming? Seems to me they enjoy biting the very hand that feeds them…but if that feeding stopped…?

I’m not against Southerners… I “CHOSE” to live here. I could have lived anywhere. I STILL believe that this is ONE nation. I and my family had NOTHING to do with the war between the states. I was simply born up north. So that goes “against” me if I choose to live here in the South? This “One Nation Under Feldman” we all live in?

Josef…lazy is lazy…regardless if one lives in the South, North, the West or in Sarah Palin’s former Russian territory. Being laid off is one thing…CHOOSING not to work is another. That’s fine if one has the means to make it own their own (or just live simply off of the land)… there are many dems and repubs who take government hand outs and have for the majority of their adult lives. I’ll equally look down upon the person who has child after child and lives off of our tax dollars to support them (and that goes for BOTH who create the child and do nothing to support he or she)…

Just remember…I’m not against the south or southerners… I came here by choice and of my own free will. Sad that so many are still fighting that war…most of all when they’re fighting those that had nothing to do with it in the first place because their lineage was not even here to begin with. What happened to my own family in the past is something I don’t blame upon the current generation that lives and resides in Germany. I would NEVER in a 1000 years blame any of them for what took place. I also don’t blame those who currently live in Japan for attacking Pearl Harbor. KnowWhatI’mSaying?

Dave R.

June 23rd, 2010
7:52 pm

Dusty, please! I just ate. I do NOT need that visual in my head about Redneck!

josef nix

June 23rd, 2010
7:53 pm

“And glad you had the best medical system in the world to take care of you. That does help!!”

I might not agree it’s the best “system” in the world but it is without a doubt the best “care” for those of us blessed to have the access…

Mick

June 23rd, 2010
7:57 pm

Del @ 7:24

Great story and very inspiring! Every day really is a masterpiece…

josef nix

June 23rd, 2010
8:00 pm

Saul

I know that one is hard for you to understand. I gave up years ago trying to explain it to the outlander. Just as the old saying “it’s a black thing you wouldn’t understand” holds true, so does “it’s a Southern thing you wouldn’t understand.”
There is a point, no matter how much we’d like to not think so, when that psychic wall goes up and the individual is no longer that, but one of “them…”

Let me give a vignette from my own experience. I was downtown one day several years back and overheard two obviously confused tourists trying to get their bearings in German. I approached, excused my intrusion and in German asked them as per my Southern training, “can I be of assistance to y’all?” Pleased to be addressed in their language, they engaged me in conversation and a pleasant exchange ensued. As we were preparing to part company, they asked me if I would be so kind as to take their pictures. Of course, it would be my pleasure. Of an age that they would have been “participants” in WWII, the thought did not cross my mind until I had them fixed in frame…frozen there, a chill went up my spine as I had to deal with a reaction on my part I was totally unprepared for. There in the view finder, they were no longer the nice couple I had just spent a pleasant time with, but “them…” I had to confront in myself something I would rather have not admitted was there, but it was.

stands for decibels

June 23rd, 2010
8:00 pm

I might not agree it’s the best “system” in the world but it is without a doubt the best “care” for those of us blessed to have the access…

Well, perhaps, but unless you’ve actually sampled that care from various countries, kinda hard to assess.

Anyway, gives me an excuse to post this shocker:

Non-Old People Love Obamacare

md

June 23rd, 2010
8:00 pm

“It doesn’t matter, what matters is which side has the courage to reject continuing on that circle.”

Nor does that matter, for if either side chooses not to, the other will still be in the game.

Me choosing not to beat my neighbor does nothing if he chooses to beat the crap out of me.

Dusty

June 23rd, 2010
8:01 pm

Doggone/GA

“There is an answer to the ‘chicken & egg’ ”

hmmmm Omelet? Rooster rotissorie? Poulette pompoms de roadkill?

Don’t keep us in suspense!

"Information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment" - BHO, May 1, 2010

June 23rd, 2010
8:02 pm

Jay —- the ajc homepage is linking your name to Cynthia’s blog right now.

"Information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment" - BHO, May 1, 2010

June 23rd, 2010
8:03 pm

Is this a coincidence?

Saul Good

June 23rd, 2010
8:03 pm

I agree Del… good for ALL of you 9AmVet and Josef) have chosen to fight back against disease and do it through keeping your body in tune! The body is an amazing thing… it’s the only one we get when we enter this world. Amazing how so many take it for granted. Never did and never will.

Inspirational to hear from those of you who have been through what you have…and who have fought back to win!

TaxPayer

June 23rd, 2010
8:04 pm

I think therefore I’m not. No. Wait a moment. That’s not how it goes.

md

June 23rd, 2010
8:08 pm

“I agree and I do…I just wish the missionaries of the “other viewpoint” would accept the same premise or offer me more “proof” than I can offer them…”

And that my friend is more than likely why the world will forever have turmoil.

TaxPayer

June 23rd, 2010
8:08 pm

We have the best access to healthcare that money can be and it is structured much like the options that one can purchase, on a sliding scale, from Dish Network.

josef nix

June 23rd, 2010
8:09 pm

Okay, Dusty–
I’ve got the answer. There’s an egg (female) and a chicken (male) in bed, the rooster is smoking a cigarette with a smile on his face…the egg looks less pleased and says “well, I guess that answers THAT question!” :-)

TaxPayer

June 23rd, 2010
8:09 pm

That should be “money can buy”. I guess I was still stuck on to be or not to be.

Saul Good

June 23rd, 2010
8:10 pm

“I had to confront in myself something I would rather have not admitted was there, but it was.”

Understandable… but I STILL don’t see how my being born in NY…NOT coming from any lineage that fought against those who have been here for generations…makes ME an outsider. Growing up in NY…it’s obvious that many were from all around the globe… maybe it was my parents who taught me right…but I just summed others up as “good people or bad people” by their actions and character. NOT their nation of origin, their skin color, or their religion. It’s just how I was raised and i still feel the same. I have gay friends, straight friends, friends from Iran, Black, White, Asian, Hispanic, Poor, Rich, Democrat, Republican, Christian, Muslim, Catholic, etc…it matters NOT WHAT they are…just WHO they are.

If people view ME as an “outsider” because I choose to live here in the South…that “fault” lies only in their head. Most of all when it’s the FIRST thing that comes to their mind in how they judge me when meeting me.

josef nix

June 23rd, 2010
8:13 pm

Coito, ergo sum!

md
It’s why I say G-d has a sense of humor! Or at least irony… :-)

sfd

I have had experience abroad. I was particularly impressed by the Costa Ricans…

Curious Observer

June 23rd, 2010
8:15 pm

I got the ‘You shouldn’t be alive” treatment too,it really sank in when the interns started showing up and asking me questions.

The first conversation I recall hearing after confinement to an ICU during my little heart episode in 1997:

Nurse 1: “I don’t see how he’s still breathing. There’s no electrical signal there.”

Nurse 2: “I know.”

Me (silently): “Hey, I can hear you down here!”

And all this exactly one week following a complete annual physical, at which time my doctor assured me that all was well.

Let’s add more humanities courses to the nursing curriculum.

josef nix

June 23rd, 2010
8:18 pm

Saul
The mere fact that your own ancestors chose to assimilate into that cultural milieu means that they bought into that myth, legend and tradition…

But you say you don’t judge…yes, you do…you paint the trailer/Confederate flag with the same broad brush of contempt and arrogance as some alien “other…” You do the same with persons of faith. That’s why I call you a garden variety bigot. Not particularly mean, not particularly hateful, and no real threat to the order of society, but still in your own self imposed shtettl and waving your own Cross of St. Andrew…

SPQR(laissez Faire)

June 23rd, 2010
8:20 pm

one indispensable german phrase to know..

welchen Weg zum Schrein von Hasselhoff, bitte?

josef nix

June 23rd, 2010
8:23 pm

Curious

“I can hear you down here!”
When I was going through mine, it was as if I were an observer. The one putting the paddles on was telling me “hold on, you’re going to make it,” and ordering me not to “go anywhere.” I was at perfect peace and I remember thinking and thinking I was saying it, “okay, Sugar, if that’s what you want. I don’t want to be any trouble…” :-)

Saul Good

June 23rd, 2010
8:23 pm

Josef… view me as you will…but remember…the MAJORITY of my close friends are members of various “cults” (as I prefer to call them)… my BEST friend is of the Republican Variety… do I debate with him? Absolutely…have either of us ever WON by changing the other? Nah… but we’re still best friends and support one another through life when needed…and that’s all that matters.

Have a good night all!

Sincerely,

Mr. Bigot-Racist-Atheist-Opinionated-Jerk

Dusty

June 23rd, 2010
8:26 pm

Stand for Decibels,

Anybody who receives information from Doctors Without Borders can get a good idea of what happens in many countries in this world of ours. It is tragic. Almost beyond American imagination.

We in the USA should appreciate the best health system in the world. It is there for just about everybody. Some places it is easier to get to than others and it may take some effort to get it.

But that is true for almost anything we need. We are the fortunates of this world and for that we should be very thankful. So many more yearn for that privilege.

.

RW-(the original)

June 23rd, 2010
8:26 pm

I’d love to see sfb’s poll numbers once the healthy young people start footing the bill.

On another note a healthy dose of skepticism is a good thing when one suddenly sees a response that’s completely different from anything that’s come before it even if the same thing that elicited the new response has been said dozens of times in the past.

Dusty

June 23rd, 2010
8:36 pm

Josef,

For some reason I don’t think that is what Doggone had in mind for the chicken and the egg debate.

As to your egg, I think she should have set the nest on fire and burned some tail feathers.
Sir Rooster was an uninvited guest!! Set the fox on all roosters who never pay “biddy” support.

@@

June 23rd, 2010
8:37 pm

Too funny! the “Voice of Russia” has addressed McChrystal’s firing, saying that Bob Gates said some nasty things about them too. Something about Russia’s “schizophrenic” Iran policy.

Russia’s acting like a liberal…overly sensitive.

Should Obama fire Bob Gates?

Disgusted

June 23rd, 2010
8:38 pm

I’d love to see sfb’s poll numbers once the healthy young people start footing the bill.

You mean the ones who have been dodging acquiring insurance? The ones who spend all their spare money on motorcycles and fast cars and new gadgets and then get hauled to an emergency room when they get wrapped around a tree? The ones who stiff the hospital and doctors after treatment and leave us insureds with higher health insurance premiums and taxpayers with higher taxes to make up the difference? Those health young people?

getalife

June 23rd, 2010
8:39 pm

I remember passing out in icu woke up and felt a shock to my heart with a doctor in the mask leaning over me saying he’s back.

I said that’s good, now give me another shot of that happy juice.

Olbermann's Cold Sore

June 23rd, 2010
8:40 pm

What will AmVet, Mick and the rest of the “wounded liberals” say when General Petraeus wants a surge in Afghanistan?

RW-(the original)

June 23rd, 2010
8:44 pm

disgusted,

Do you understand the difference between poll numbers and all the other drivel you just wrote?

Dusty

June 23rd, 2010
8:46 pm

@@

Please! Don’t even suggest that Obama fire Bob Gates. We need at least one good head in Washington and Gates is one of the few.

Besides, the Russian policy toward Iran is “schizophrenic”..

@@

June 23rd, 2010
8:46 pm

Russia calls their graduates, school-leavers. Those who leave school in the U.S. are called drop-outs.

josef nix

June 23rd, 2010
8:49 pm

Dusty
Biddy support… :-)

Dusty

June 23rd, 2010
8:50 pm

I remeber the first time I saw my husband smile. Bam!! I was a goner. Recovery was wonderful. I’ve been feeling good ever since. The only thing that beats science is love.

neo-Carlinist

June 23rd, 2010
8:51 pm

kayaker71, I half-think Obama employed the Bush Doctrine of pre-emptive war – in a Michael Corleone; “…keep your friend close, but your enemies closer…” kinda way – like offering Hillary Sec of State to get her off the board before the Convention – offering Patreus the gig. If he’s tied up in that quagmire, he can’t run for POTUS. What I find absolutely amusing about this whole mess is the idea that the White House or the “civilian” DoD liaiasons have never uttered an unkind word about a general, the Sec of Defense. the fact that Rolling Stone was there to jot this stuff down is moot in my book. Is McChrystal full of himself? Perhaps, but I’d rather have a general with bravado; willing to stand behind his guys, as opposed to a bunch of thin-skinned political operatives who are still waiting for their cajones to drop.

Buzz Aldrin -- Apollo 11... 2nd to walk on the moon.

June 23rd, 2010
8:51 pm

Neil Armstrong should offer his opinions about how to fix the oil leak.

He had the ball$, the brains, the courage, the discipline and he runs away from all media.

I Trust Neil Armstrong To Fix The Oil Spill fiasco

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June 23rd, 2010
9:04 pm

Dusty:

I would never suggest such a thing.

I thought I read where Gates is only gonna serve Obama’s first term, which I’m hoping will be his only term.

Seven words Mr. President…seven little words. Is that too much to ask. You’re not up to the task. You know you’re not.

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Can these numbers be right?

Education Pension Millionaires?

That’s right. Former Niles Township school superintendent Neil Codell is projected to receive $26,661,604 in retirement checks from the Illinois teacher pension plan.

"Information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment" - BHO, May 1, 2010

June 23rd, 2010
9:11 pm

Watch Senator Obama in 2007 hack at General Petraeus in a hearing about “the surge”.

Information is dangerous….

Watch it – It’s 9:56

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIUej6VJzII

Ughhhhhhhhhhh………

"Information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment" - BHO, May 1, 2010

June 23rd, 2010
9:13 pm

Why did our president change his name to Barack?

josef nix

June 23rd, 2010
9:13 pm

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at 9:04
Now, THAT is depressing…

Scout

June 23rd, 2010
9:19 pm

Why was the Vice President standing there getting tube time? He’s not in the chain of command.

josef nix

June 23rd, 2010
9:21 pm

Scout

He’s not even in the loop! :-)

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June 23rd, 2010
9:22 pm

If you’re out of work, China’s hiring people to do nothing.

Rent a White Guy

Unfortunately the Chinese are racists.

Del

June 23rd, 2010
9:28 pm

@@,

So much for the workers paradise.

Alvin Greene for Senate in SC

June 23rd, 2010
9:30 pm

Obama’s policy on Afghanistan is – FAIL

Obama’s policy on The Oil Spill – ULTIMATE FAIL

Jobs – FAIL

My Healthcare – FAIL

Please vote the candidate you don’t know in November. It worked for me. Please do not pay attention.

Vote for Progress in 2010.

josef nix

June 23rd, 2010
9:31 pm

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Hey, now! Being a white guy ain’t easy! ISH

Scout

June 23rd, 2010
9:32 pm

josef:

He’s kind of like a “Gabby Hayes”.

josef nix

June 23rd, 2010
9:32 pm

DEL

Glad to see you back…wanted to tell you, congrats on beating the big C…

josef nix

June 23rd, 2010
9:35 pm

Scout

Yeah, but Gabby could act and stuck to the script…

Doggone/GA

June 23rd, 2010
9:35 pm

“Don’t keep us in suspense!”

Dinosaurs were laying eggs LONG before some of them evolved into birds

Scout

June 23rd, 2010
9:37 pm

“OFF TOPIC #1″

1) “Between 1965 and 1973 the Red Cross carried out 475 inspections of Prisoner of War camps in South Vietnam, while North Vietnam refused even one inspection of their Prisoner of War camps.”

“An American Amnesia” by Bruce Herschensohn

2) “They are liars and hypocrites, and history will judge them severely.”

Jane Fonda (regarding our returned American POW’s}

Del

June 23rd, 2010
9:37 pm

josef,

Thanks but the glory goes to God…and I never take for granted that It won’t come back. I sometimes think the good Lord gave me 9 lives but I’ve used up many. Sincerely glad you’ve beat your health issues. God Bless.