Gay rights emerging as issue in GOP primary for governor
If Nathan Deal has his way, gay-bashing is about to become part of the 2010 GOP gubernatorial campaign.
The July primary is expected to end without an outright winner, forcing an August runoff between frontrunner John Oxendine and a second candidate still to be determined. Deal apparently believes that former Georgia Secretary of State Karen Handel is his top competitor for that spot, and he has decided to use gays as a wedge issue against her.
Deal has accused Handel of supporting the right of gay couples to adopt and of joining the Log Cabin Republicans, a gay GOP group. According to Deal, Handel’s “support of gay adoption offends the conservative values of Georgians throughout the state, let alone those who vote in the Republican primary.”
Handel, to her discredit, says she opposes gay adoption and has always done so. She also claims that Southern Voice, a now defunct gay newspaper, was wrong to report in 2003 that she supported gay adoption rights. (At the time, Handel was running for Fulton County Commission chair, and gay votes are important in that race.)
On Monday, the AJC’s new PolitiFact feature attempted to get to the bottom of the dispute, in the end rating Deal’s claim about gay adoption “barely true” based on the paucity of evidence in the case. But Laura Douglas-Brown, a former writer and editor for Southern Voice, has since interviewed former Log Cabin president Marc Yeager and uncovered considerable evidence that bolsters Deal’s claim.
“Yeager also confirmed that Handel was a dues-paying member of the Georgia Log Cabin Republicans, noting that the LCR database shows she became a member in July 2002 and he remembers receiving a check for the membership from Handel at the LCR booth at the Atlanta Pride Festival, held at the end of June….
On Monday night, Yeager provided copies of three email exchanges between him and Handel from 2002 and 2003. They show the two had a friendly as well as political relationship, with Handel inquiring about Yeager’s vacations while also telling him about gay endorsement interviews and seeking his advice on the Georgia Equality candidate survey.
The first exchange, from July 2002, shows Handel sending Yeager a draft of her answers to Georgia Equality’s candidate survey, and Yeager responding with recommendations.
“As I’ve told you, I do support domestic partner benefits, and confirm my position here, although I do have concerns about a domestic partner registry,” Handel writes in the email. “Bottom line is that I will work with you and other GLBT leaders to develop workable legislation. Give me a call if you have questions. Otherwise, we can talk at the BBQ on Sunday.”
Asked in the GE survey if she has LGBT constituents and about her interactions with them, Handel responded, “I have numerous gay and lesbian friends, and my interaction is mostly on a personal level with these individuals. I am also a member of the Georgia Log Cabin Republicans and participated in this year’s Pride Weekend activities and attended the recent Georgia Equity/Human Rights Campaign forum regarding federal ENDA legislation.
“I believe it is important that, if we are to achieve real progress for Fulton County, we must reach out to all segments of our community, and I am committed to this,” Handel wrote.
In an exchange in mid-October 2002, Handel and Yeager discuss her interview for Georgia Equality’s endorsement and her stand on domestic partner benefits. Handel said she supports the benefits for county workers, but has privacy concerns about a DP registry open to all Fulton residents.”
The emails, if authentic, pretty much nail down Handel’s membership in the Log Cabin Republicans and her support for providing domestic partnership benefits for Fulton County employees. They also confirm the impression that Handel projected at the time as an old-fashioned Republican who was more interested in running government effectively and fairly than in using it to act out various resentments against various groups of people.
Somewhere along the way, though, someone pulled her aside and told her that if she wanted to play the politics game on a larger stage, she had to toe the party line on such issues. She has since followed that advice with an eagerness and avidity that I’ve found disappointing, and she continues to do so in this campaign.
So it’s going to be interesting: Will she now step up her denunciation of people whose support she once sought in order to advance her political ambitions? Can a Georgia Republican win the party’s gubernatorial primary with a record of having supported domestic partnership benefits for gay people? Or will Republicans punish Deal for trying to drag the state back into an era that many thought and hoped we had left behind?
The answers will tell us a lot about the state of the state.
UPDATE: Jim Galloway at Political Insider has posted the three emails cited above. The Handel campaign claims that she never supported domestic partnership benefits, and that the 2002 email from Handel stating otherwise was actually written by a staffer.
It’s a lame explanation, especially since Handel alludes to her support for domestic partnership benefits in another email whose authorship has not (yet) been challenged by her campaign.
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Doggone/GA
June 8th, 2010
1:45 pm
“your causes are annoying”
Ummm…if you actually READ Jay’s piece, it really DOES seem to be the R’s making it an issue…since it’s THEIR primary election.
Last Word
June 8th, 2010
1:47 pm
If Rush can pay Elton John a million bucks to play at the ceremony celebrating the sanctity of [his fourth] marriage, then what, exactly IS the GOP’s position on gays?!!!!
TGT
June 8th, 2010
1:47 pm
Normal: NARTH was simply one website that had a record of Satinover’s testimony. The testimony is, of course, his words.
John K
June 8th, 2010
1:47 pm
Doggone, I’m sure their logic is something along the lines of how they’re “defending so-called traditional marriage and of course, the children” from the evilness of the pro-gay liberal agenda or some nonsense like that.
AmVet
June 8th, 2010
1:48 pm
Paul that is good. Because one should never, ever make anything about Ms. Coulter. Her body of work stands on it own.
Debbie @12:59, LOL. Talk about an easy mark.
Dan, legitimate question. For me there has to be a baseline of acceptable numbers. Despite the nonsense posted in that second 12:42, there are millions of GLB Americans. 180,000 in the Atlanta metro area alone.
San Francisco, Seattle, Atlanta, Minneapolis, Boston and Sacramento all have over 10%. Portland, Denver and Washington are over 8%.
Though some have their heads in the sand, this is simply too large a segment of society to ignore…
So back to the rhetorical question of the day, when did the terms pragmatism and Republican become mutually exclusive?
Jay
June 8th, 2010
1:48 pm
Gee. And no nut ever got a post-grad degree?
How about this guy, Harvard grad, Phd in math from University of Michigan, ass’t professor at Cal Berkeley at the tender age of 25?
Ted Kaczynski, the Unabomber.
TGT
June 8th, 2010
1:50 pm
Like it or not Jay, he is VERY well respected in the field of homosexuality.
Gale
June 8th, 2010
1:50 pm
AmVet re: gay population, and those numbers are only for the “out” gays.
Jay
June 8th, 2010
1:50 pm
And if gay rights is an issue only for libs, why are the Republicans fighting so hard about it? A candidate’s alleged support for gay rights eight years ago may end up deciding who gets the GOP nomination.
Doesn’t seem like a lib obsession to me.
Kamchak
June 8th, 2010
1:51 pm
Jay is attacking hominy?
Why do you hate grits, Jay?
Bosch
June 8th, 2010
1:51 pm
“Normal:
You won’t.”
Yeah, cause I am! HA!
“Gee. And no nut ever got a post-grad degree?”
Just so you know, I have two.
jewcowboy
June 8th, 2010
1:51 pm
AmVet,
“Though some have their heads in the sand, this is simply too large a segment of society to ignore… ”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFkIqaIYdoI
Paul
June 8th, 2010
1:51 pm
Normal
Depressing, isn’t it?
I mean, the Bible writers thought SCUDS in an historically insignificant little war were worth mentioning. Nothing about the invention of the crossbow…. or the Roman legions…. or airplanes… just…. SCUDS.
But ‘finding’ stuff embedded like that reminds me of the cartoon I saw a while back. Guy’s looking at a bunch of papers. A monkey’s looking up at him. Behind them are a room of monkeys behind typewriters. Guy says to the monkey “this is Hamlet. I wanted Romeo and Juliet.”
stands for decibels
June 8th, 2010
1:52 pm
It’s about editing clips to portray someone in a poor light. No one outlet has a lock on that practice.
True, and I try my best to ascertain when I’m being manipulated.
Which is another way of saying Mrs. sfd has to put up with me yelling at the TeeVee more often than she should.
AmVet
June 8th, 2010
1:52 pm
You know my take on the matter.
Edumacation is way over rated…
md
June 8th, 2010
1:53 pm
I see this thread is as contradictory as the last – there it was killing of life at various stages (pre-birth, war, death penalty) and here it is rights for all (except those that didn’t make it out of the womb).
Quite interesting.
Paul
June 8th, 2010
1:54 pm
AmVet
Coulter’s a cold, calculating, crass, manipulative bomb thrower.
And those are her good qualities.
I don’t much care for rank intellectual dishonesty.
Peadawg
June 8th, 2010
1:55 pm
“the children” from the evilness of the pro-gay liberal agenda”
No, just that homosexual lifestyle.
Saul Good
June 8th, 2010
1:55 pm
Grey: “Gay rights is about as important as Delta banning peanuts on airplanes to pacify the tiny in numbers “peanut allergy” folks. You libs need to get a grip, your causes are annoying.”
And the “pro-lifers” are also about as important as Delta banning peanuts… LEGAL ABORTION is the “law” of the land. Don’t agree with it or like it? Don’t have one. Just make sure the CHILD is taken care of and provided for if born. Those “against” abortion never care about what happens AFTER one is born… most likely it’s those they talk OUT of having an abortion and who conceive… well…THEY are the one’s who end up needing the very government “help” you lash out about and wish to refuse them.
So go ahead and do away with abortion..just make sure you have a “plan” in place for all the babies born… since the cults all have tax free status…I’ll expect that they use their savings to provide for the mothers and children. I mean…would you agree that we can sell off some mega churches and use the money to move into a little shack for worship…and use the profits they’ll make to provide care for all those who give birth? Do you really NEED that massive sound system and all the rest of the multi-media to preach the word of YOUR god? Is that in your bible and fable? Provide for elaborate sound systems and a full band but give no money to the whores who got knocked up? I mean…WTF was the virgin Mary?
John K
June 8th, 2010
1:55 pm
Jay, it’s the GOP textbook. 1. Identify false enemy that you know your electorate will lap up in a heartbeat. 2. Make up pretend threat 3. Declare you’re the only person who can protect everyone from the enemy; unlike that other person.
Since Georgia is stuck in 1954, the gay threat works perfectly.
md
June 8th, 2010
1:55 pm
“Coulter’s a cold, calculating, crass, manipulative bomb thrower.”
Sounds like the crowd in DC.
moonbat betty
June 8th, 2010
1:55 pm
yeah, those harvard grads are real cool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQezXbiroiE
Paul
June 8th, 2010
1:56 pm
sfd
Oh my goodness. You watch shows with people yelling and yell back?
Mathews. O Reilly. Hannity.
You Irish, too?
AmVet
June 8th, 2010
1:56 pm
Edumacation, schmeducmacation!
All that’s needed is a little of this…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptAoJedxFzU
(BTW, jcb that Glenn Close is one scary chick!)
md
June 8th, 2010
1:58 pm
“Those “against” abortion never care about what happens AFTER one is born…”
“Never care” is quite a broad brush – care to back that up with facts or is hyperbole ok with you??
Joe
June 8th, 2010
1:59 pm
Deal certainly has my vote now that Handel has come out of the closet… Homosexuals deserve no special right for their deviant behavior….
AmVet
June 8th, 2010
1:59 pm
Paul! For the second time today, I must call you out for your behavior!
I cut the cow a break and then you run like hell with it?
Woo Hoo! Way to go!
Gale
June 8th, 2010
1:59 pm
Going back to Jay’s post, I found it odd that Handel should have been (as reported) in favor of domestic partnership, but against a DP registry for privacy reasons. Marriages are public record. Did she think gays would be targets if they were registered? Did she really think she was protecting gays with that stand? I think more likely she was telling gays what they wanted to hear – support for DPs – to get elected to the position of the moment. Now, different election, different voters, different lies.
John K
June 8th, 2010
2:00 pm
What are these special rights?
Paul
June 8th, 2010
2:01 pm
AmVet
Well, both of us becoming old softies at the same time just won’t do, will it?
Jay
June 8th, 2010
2:01 pm
Apparently Joe thinks it’s important.
Joe, no offense, but are you a liberal?
jewcowboy
June 8th, 2010
2:01 pm
Peadawg,
“No, just that homosexual lifestyle.”
Too bad for you that gay people raise smart and social kids…
http://www.torontosun.com/life/2010/06/08/14307581.html
Jefferson
June 8th, 2010
2:02 pm
The GOP acts like a childish wife that get pissed everytime her husband has some fun, say like golfing,fishing, hunting etc…
jewcowboy
June 8th, 2010
2:02 pm
Joe,
“Homosexuals deserve no special right for their deviant behavior….”
Table turned…it’s actually straight people that get “special” rights for their deviant behavior.
DWTOO
June 8th, 2010
2:03 pm
josef nix- congratulations to you and your partner for a committed 35 year relationship and raising childred. All of this while having to fight the prejudices of the narrow minded.
It’s a shame that Ms. Handel has to back away from the courageous stands she took earlier. Just when you think you find an open minded conservative they run away from their convictions the first they’re challenged. And from a bum who runs a business from his Congressional office. If she had a backbone she’s stand up to Deal and tell him the TRUTH. There are many children who need the love of a family – no matter if they are the same sex. Love and understanding trump sexuality every time.
Some people on this blog act like ignorance and stupdity are virtues.
Helen Thomas
June 8th, 2010
2:07 pm
All the gay men should just go back to Frisco or New Jersey.
All the gay women should just go back to the isle of Lesbo.
That gay chick that plays on ” House” can stay. And maybe Ellen Degenourous’ wife too.
AmVet
June 8th, 2010
2:12 pm
Paul watch it!
You may end up in jnix and my Industrial Strength Contrarian Club.
Or at least earn the moniker of part-time curmudgeon.
At least Joe used the word deviant instead of heretical, perverse, qu**r, twisted or bent.
Helen, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K48hmUk5zO4
Gale
June 8th, 2010
2:12 pm
Helen, if everyone around me was also gay, maybe my partner would not worry about someone beating us up if I forget myself in public and put my arm around her. That is justs one of those special rights someone here is worried about.
Sonny Lied!
June 8th, 2010
2:13 pm
Can we replace the phrase “Hot-Button Issue” with “Diversionary Tactic”? I think it’s more apt.
Saul Good
June 8th, 2010
2:13 pm
Paul @ 1:45pm… that actually made laugh! I have many other way more harsh words for her… but you did so way more eloquently. BTW…ever see the pictures of her with her “gay” friends dinning in 2007? When discovered dining with them…she ran out the door… no sh!t!
here’s the photo:
http://gawker.com/316187/
let’s not also forget about all those who remember her dancing on bars in NYC while wasted… many photos of them as well.
Normal
June 8th, 2010
2:14 pm
Paul @ 1:51 and Jewcowby @ 2:02…I just lost two good mouthfuls of hazelnut cream coffe with those posts…tanks a lot. Bosch, where’s that monitor cleaner???
Saul Good
June 8th, 2010
2:18 pm
Paul @ 1:45pm… that actually made laugh! I have many other way more harsh words for her… but you did so way more eloquently. BTW…ever see the pictures of her with her “gay” friends dinning in 2007? When discovered dining with them…she ran out the door… no ^$&*
here’s the photo:
http://gawker.com/316187/
let’s not also forget about all those who remember her dancing on bars in NYC while wasted… many photos of them as well out there… she and her Adam’s Apple that is…
Saul Good
June 8th, 2010
2:19 pm
Ooops… was “un-moderated” and I changed the post…sorry for da double!
Bosch
June 8th, 2010
2:21 pm
Saul Good,
Ann Coulter used to date Bill Maher. She is an act – plain and simple and she collects the wingnuts money and laughs all the way to the bank. She knows that hate sells — and sells big.
Normal,
Second shelf – behind the soccer ball.
jewcowboy
June 8th, 2010
2:21 pm
“All the gay men should just go back to Frisco or New Jersey.
All the gay women should just go back to the isle of Lesbo.”
HEY! No freakin fair…the women get this:
http://michaelscomments.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/lesbos.jpg
And we guys get this?!
http://believemenatalieblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/real-housewives2.jpg
BAH!
josef nix
June 8th, 2010
2:24 pm
DWTWO
Thanks, but really it’s just the way we were raised…
jewcowboy
Ain’t it nice being the center of attention? I feel so special…don’t you?
Okay, more serious stuff for a minute. Gay lifestyle? Folks, life around this house is so mundane and boring I have to come here and Unmentionable watches re-runs of Star Trek and the Beverley Hillbillies. We’re the “typical” gay folks and there are millions like us going about our daily lives just like anybody else, fighting over the bills, arguing over that nasty mess in the basement, when are you going to get off your lazy a33 and mow the yard, what’s for supper, did you feed the cat, what’s on the news, guess who I ran into today, leave me alone I had a hard day at work and not tonight dear I’ve got a headache…
The kids and how they turn out…all three of ours are a success, happy, two married and with families of their own, one still waiting for a woman who’ll appreciate what she’s getting, and really far more “conservative” and “traditional” than us.
Normal
June 8th, 2010
2:24 pm
Geez jc, they look scarey, even to me!!!
Bosch
June 8th, 2010
2:25 pm
josef,
But you do it all while wearing pink boas, right?
Gale
June 8th, 2010
2:25 pm
jewcowboy, works for me!
jewcowboy
June 8th, 2010
2:28 pm
Bosch,
“But you do it all while wearing pink boas, right?”
And Prada leather chaps…why of course.
Gale
June 8th, 2010
2:28 pm
The silly thing is most people with very negative views about gays would stand next to most gays in an elevator and would not know it. Most of us are indistinguishable from straights.
josef nix
June 8th, 2010
2:29 pm
jewcowboy
Oh, no! Not that! Okay, all you folks that were in here the other night when I said if I was forced to leave the country and emigrate to north of the border that I’d choose Jersey…I’d like to revise that statement, I misspoke…
Kamchak
June 8th, 2010
2:30 pm
And Prada leather chaps…why of course.
TMI!
Saul Good
June 8th, 2010
2:30 pm
Jay… off topic… but err….whateva:
http://m.yahoo.com/w/ygo-frontpage/lp/story/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.watchblog.com%2Fdemocrats%2Findex.rdf/15779416165140488299/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.watchblog.com%2Fdemocrats%2Farchives%2F007082.html/detail.bp%3B_ylt=A0LEV3cqig5M9jwAVwE549w4?ct=Democrats+%26+Liberals&.tsrc=yahoo&.intl=us&.lang=en
Bosch
June 8th, 2010
2:30 pm
OMG, josef and jewcowboy, and Gale – do you remember when Jay did that piece on that guy who came out about NIkki Haley and I wrote how that guy made my gaydar go off, well last night on the John Stewart show – he said the same thing!
josef! We were right!
jewcowboy
June 8th, 2010
2:31 pm
Gale,
“Most of us are indistinguishable from straights.”
Well…in some ways
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37557883/ns/health-behavior/
Paul
June 8th, 2010
2:32 pm
josef nix
But…. but…. that’s so….. normal!
jewcowboy
June 8th, 2010
2:34 pm
Gale,
The last line in that article:
“Other researchers have found further evidence of this male effect while studying personal ads and dating sites like Match.com, Rothblum explains. “Men will say they are looking for a partner who is not above 35 years old and not above 135 pounds,” she said. “Women don’t typically do that. They say they are looking for someone with good sense of humor, intelligence, and creativity, or someone who is not an alcoholic.”
Men are b@stards no matter what their sexuality…
Bosch
June 8th, 2010
2:34 pm
Here’s the video josef, scan over to about the 7 minute mark.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/
DebbieDoRight
June 8th, 2010
2:35 pm
Sorry just getting back to ya’ll had a meeting to go to… any whoooo
Union: debbie.. please dont make be break out “obama off teleprompter” the man cannot have a conversation with high school kids unless its scripted in front of him
Aheemmmm (Deb Clears Throat) – Perhaps Union, you have forgotten about the January Republican Summit that Obama went to where he proceeded to kick some repuglican butt — sans prompter. Here’s a refresher for your memory below. PS: He didn’t need no stinking teleprompter….
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/32225.html
BADA BING
June 8th, 2010
2:35 pm
Daddy, did you kick some ass yet?
Doggone/GA
June 8th, 2010
2:35 pm
“But…. but…. that’s so….. normal!”
Yeah, whenever I get a chance I reply to those “gay lifestyle” posts with: “WHICH “gay lifestyle”?
Have yet to get an answer.
Saul Good
June 8th, 2010
2:36 pm
Jewcowboy… “not that there’s anything wrong with that”….
Normal
June 8th, 2010
2:36 pm
Paul,
you guessed it, Josef is really me, er..I’m really Josef…wait, I’m really confused.
josef nix
June 8th, 2010
2:36 pm
Bosch–
Not before Easter and not after Labour Day!
Gale
And then when they “find out” tell us that we don’t “look” or “act” gay. A quick funny you’ll appreciate. I work with a great bunch of folks and don’t have to “cover up” and can just be myself. At the beginning of the year we had a new co-worker who was still feeling her way around her new environment and trying to get a handle on things. At lunch one day I made a smart a33′d remark that if you didn’t know me certainly could have been interpreted as anti gay. Word comes back to me that she had confided in another coworker that she had been offended. I went to her and apologized and told her that I appreciated a straight person sticking up for us, but that I am gay. She burst out laughing…so am I! Sometimes we can’t even tell each other from “those people.”
Gale
June 8th, 2010
2:37 pm
jewcowboy, I wouldn’t start hitting on all thin men based on that assessment if I were you.
On the other hand, I am inclined to agree with their findings.
RW-(the original)
June 8th, 2010
2:41 pm
If this is the best “issue” we can come up with let’s just cover the South Carolina race. At least the Republican party still allows primary challenges though.
/drive by…
Gale
June 8th, 2010
2:41 pm
No, no jewcowboy. Men are not b@stards, they just have different priorities.
Finn McCool
June 8th, 2010
2:41 pm
Who are you folks voting to take Nathan Deal’s place? It looks like Graves is a wannabe-career politician. At least we know Hawkins has a brain since he went though dental school….
jewcowboy
June 8th, 2010
2:42 pm
Bosch @ 2.34,
I must have missed that discussion…hilarious…”Like Truman Capote Southern”…Classic.
theyeshaveit
June 8th, 2010
2:42 pm
Peadawg said, Do we have a “straight day” when we all call into work just b/c we’re straight?
Peadawg, actually, if you want to have a Straight Day, that is your right. I’ll support you, if you want one.
Mark My Words
June 8th, 2010
2:45 pm
Social issues will be the downfall of the GOP as we know it. Karen, Deal, and Ox are betting on the prejudices amongst Georgia voters. Sad,
Saul Good
June 8th, 2010
2:46 pm
josef @ 2:24 hey… my wife went shopping the other day with her friend and bought me some denim shorts that I told her reminded me of the Beverly Hillbilly’s…. something Jethro might have worn… I mean…she meant well and all…but what should I do when she expects me to WEAR them in public? I’m thinking they are best for one of our hikes on the AT since the bears are so active and all there right now… at least THEY won’t laugh! Let me ask you… like I have a wife…and you have “your” significant other…what would YOU do to not offend the gift of shorts that you feel may make you look like hmmm….errrr… Jethro from the Beverly Hillbilly’s! (or at least reminds you of the shorts he wore)!
Gale
June 8th, 2010
2:47 pm
josef, I would be in big trouble if I had to date again. I’m attracted to women like me and I sure don’t look gay.
Saul Good
June 8th, 2010
2:47 pm
Normal/Paul…how do you keep up with all the posts and keep logging in and out!? Sheeesh! i can only guess that you have jeeezbus’ help wit dat!
Gale
June 8th, 2010
2:49 pm
Jethro wore shorts?
BADA BING
June 8th, 2010
2:49 pm
Why doesn’t obama just stick his finger in the dyke? But remember DADT.
jewcowboy
June 8th, 2010
2:49 pm
Saul Good,
“what would YOU do to not offend the gift of shorts that you feel may make you look like hmmm….errrr… Jethro from the Beverly Hillbilly’s! ”
That is what dogs are for…to chew up things and blame.
Saul Good
June 8th, 2010
2:49 pm
At least we know Hawkins has a brain since he went though dental school….
Seems to me he spent WAY too much time playing with that darn tank and da funny feelin’ it gave him in his belly when he put on that batman mask designed for the kiddies….
Saul Good
June 8th, 2010
2:52 pm
Jewcowboy…I have too many rescued dogs to blame just one! I’ll have to think about which dogs are republicans, which are libertarians, and which belong to the tea party… ACK! post Bush,,,they’re all the same!
TGT
June 8th, 2010
2:53 pm
In the last 30 years U.S. males have seen a 160% increase in the incidence of anal cancer due to the human papilloma virus. The main cause for the increase: anal sex.
Source: That purveyor of the vast Right Wing Conspiracy, Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anal_sex
Paul
June 8th, 2010
2:53 pm
Saul Good 2:47
My secret is out…
theyeshaveit
June 8th, 2010
2:54 pm
Seinfeld Was Right!”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37557883/ns/health-behavior
josef nix
June 8th, 2010
2:54 pm
BOSCH
Unmentionable and I are sill rolling! That’s just, well, TOO Southern!
GALE
If you haven’t seen it, DO! Sometimes, though, ain’t no question about it!
jewcowboy
June 8th, 2010
2:55 pm
TGT,
“The main cause for the increase: anal sex. ”
Then don’t have it.
Saul Good
June 8th, 2010
2:56 pm
Gale said: Jethro wore shorts?
maybe not… it’s just what I thought when she made me try them on! I told her they were “Jethro” shorts… she being a few years younger…she was like WTF are you talking about? WHO’S Jethro?
Doggone/GA
June 8th, 2010
2:57 pm
“That is what dogs are for…to chew up things and blame”
AMEN!
stands for decibels
June 8th, 2010
2:58 pm
Oh my goodness. You watch shows with people yelling and yell back?
I don’t watch shows with people yelling if I can help it. I got my ya-yas out with that kind of silliness back when I still watched John McLaughlin, over a decade ago.
Doesn’t stop me from yelling though. I am an equal opportunity abuser. I once got angry at Jim Lehrer (Jim Lehrer!) and made all kinds of anatomically impossible requests of the venerable gentleman. You can imagine what I might say to the likes of a Chris Matthews…
Bosch
June 8th, 2010
2:58 pm
josef,
Wasn’t that hysterical? As I said the other day, I just find it hard to believe that man has ever had sex with a woman.
jewcowboy
June 8th, 2010
2:58 pm
TGT,
How many searches are in your browser’s history for anal sex?
Normal
June 8th, 2010
3:00 pm
Saul Good @ 2:47,
What Paul said…
Saul Good
June 8th, 2010
3:00 pm
Theeyes! GREAT!
jewcowboy said:
“TGT,
“The main cause for the increase: anal sex. ”
Then don’t have it.”
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Saul Good here has the answer you seek!
How else can he keep himself from getting pregnant?
Normal
June 8th, 2010
3:01 pm
Bosch
June 8th, 2010
2:58 pm
Would Rosie Palms count?
josef nix
June 8th, 2010
3:05 pm
BOSCH
Only after midnight and in Salt Lake City…hmmm the GWIDLN Syndrome strikes the gay community. Funny on that one, the follow up line in “Boys in the Band” is when the guy who made the statement adds that it strikes all groups “though I have seen a higher instance among Mormons.” Must be something in that salty mountain air!
eyes and jewcowboy–
And here I was thinking it was just middle-aged spread…oh, no! I turning breeder…!!!!
jewcowboy
June 8th, 2010
3:06 pm
Normal,
“Would Rosie Palms count?”
Not even if she brought along her 5 merry sisters….
josef nix
June 8th, 2010
3:07 pm
jewcowboy
TGT and his ideas on our sexual activities…makes you kinda wonder what IS going on in their minds, don’t it??
I assume, though, he’s a Chassid and only does it for procreation in the missionary position through slitted sheets…
theyeshaveit
June 8th, 2010
3:07 pm
Bosch, LOL LOL LOL. That video made my day.
Paul
June 8th, 2010
3:09 pm
sfd
“You can imagine what I might say to the likes of a Chris Matthews…”
You’d never get a word in edgewise -
TGT
June 8th, 2010
3:09 pm
From Satinover’s book (with references): “…the continued practice of anal intercourse by some 80% of the male homosexual population (study in American Journal of Epidemiology) strongly suggests…that anal intercourse is a defining feature of male homosexuality.”
DebbieDoRight
June 8th, 2010
3:10 pm
buggatti: How about somebody who says this
“My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you’ll join me as we try to change it.”
“I found solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother’s race.”
“I can no more disown (Jeremiah Wright) than I can disown the black community.” –
Briefly – Everything you posted, but the last phrase about Rev. Wright, was stripped of it’s original words and lambasted into the “we will believe anything Faux News Tells Us” hall of fame. My only advice is for you to read the book for yourself, don’t take someone else’s words for it. This is good advice.
The other bit about Wright, I concur with the Prez’s assertation. My grandfather is a condensed version of Rev. Wright, I’m not about to uphold what he does or says, but I am also not about to lambast him for it either. Now, seeing as I don’t know you, BUT seeing that you are probably an American (3rd generation and beyond), I’m guessing there might’ve been a racist, homophobe, anti-semite, etc. or two in your own family and or friendships…..did you stop seeing them or did you laugh right along with some of their jokes? Truth only please.