South Carolina: The Deepwater Horizon of American politics

I’ve tried to avoid a post on the mess in South Carolina politics, but I guess you can only avert your eyes so long from such a spectacle.

I mean, really?

It’s the most bizarre state of affairs I can remember in politics. In the current episode, two men deeply involved in GOP politics in South Carolina have now come forward to claim an affair with Nikki Haley, the frontrunner for the party’s gubernatorial nomination. The gentleman person above, Larry Marchant, is the second. He’s apparently a well-known lobbyist and political consultant in South Carolina who until this week was working for one of Haley’s opponents, Lt. Gov. Andre Bauer. He resigned once he decided to “confess,” if that’s really what he’s done.

Bauer is himself a piece of work. You might recall him as the man who argued that the way to stop the poor from breeding was to stop feeding them. And of course, they’re all running to replace the notorious Mark Sanford, who in the name of love hiked the Appalachian Trail all the way down to Argentina and back.

South Carolina voters have to be appalled by all this. It’s the Deepwater Horizon of American politics, just spewing and spewing toxic material with no apparent means of stopping it. The place has always been known for its dirty politics — it’s where Lee Atwater learned his trade — but this is a whole ‘nother level.

Late in life, fatally ill with cancer, Atwater repented his behavior and sought forgiveness from his victims. In a 1991 piece for Life magazine, he wrote:

“My illness helped me to see that what was missing in society is what was missing in me: a little heart, a lot of brotherhood. The ’80s were about acquiring — acquiring wealth, power, prestige. I know. I acquired more wealth, power, and prestige than most. But you can acquire all you want and still feel empty. What power wouldn’t I trade for a little more time with my family? What price wouldn’t I pay for an evening with friends? It took a deadly illness to put me eye to eye with that truth, but it is a truth that the country, caught up in its ruthless ambitions and moral decay, can learn on my dime. I don’t know who will lead us through the ’90s, but they must be made to speak to this spiritual vacuum at the heart of American society, this tumor of the soul.”

The tumor continues to spread.

342 comments Add your comment

USinUK

June 3rd, 2010
11:19 am

Good gravy – this is what you get when you combine SoBap self-righteousness (and prudishness) with the politics of personal destruction …

USinUK

June 3rd, 2010
11:19 am

oooooooooo … firsties.

Bosch

June 3rd, 2010
11:22 am

ooooooo….USinUK….congrats.

You just can’t make this stuff up, can you?

@@

June 3rd, 2010
11:22 am

I leave this one for the voters in South Carolina to read.

@@

June 3rd, 2010
11:23 am

…or the gossip ^^^ gang.

USinUK

June 3rd, 2010
11:27 am

Bosch – “You just can’t make this stuff up, can you?”

you could – but no one would believe it!

USinUK

June 3rd, 2010
11:28 am

“…or the gossip ^^^ gang.”

coming from someone who does nothing but b*tch and moan about other posters, that’s rich.

Bosch

June 3rd, 2010
11:29 am

USinUK,

Is it just me, or does your gaydar go off on this guy? I know, I know, that’s horribly inappropriate of me.

josef nix

June 3rd, 2010
11:31 am

“Ah, South Carolina, too small for a republic, too big for an insane asylum.” –James Pettigru

But about the right size for a ho house. :-)

USinUK

June 3rd, 2010
11:32 am

Bosch – can’t see the video – is he afflicted with the Lindsey Graham soft southern-ness?

AmVet

June 3rd, 2010
11:32 am

USinUK, at 11:28, hysterical.

Another great article, JB.

And one that needs to be read by everyone. In South Carolina and elsewhere. If for no other reason, than Atwater’s too-late “epiphany”.

stands for decibels

June 3rd, 2010
11:32 am

Who among us would not enjoy an affair with Nikki Haley?

Paul

June 3rd, 2010
11:32 am

Bauer’s no gentleman. Couldn’t live with himself if he didn’t confess this? Seems he lives with himself without recognizing quite a few other ‘failings.’

So this is a new phase? Reading Haley’s website, I nowhere saw where she set herself up as a moral beacon and espoused a certain view of sexual morality. But we apparently have a calculation that even if she didn’t, such issues are important to local voters and such ‘revelations’ will damage her candidacy.

Democrats and Progressives shouldn’t get too smug or self righteous. First Spkr Pelosi told Catholic leaders to advocate for certain political policies. Then,we learn of her recent remarks that “she believes she must pursue public policies “in keeping with the values” of Jesus Christ, “The Word made Flesh….the speaker said: “They ask me all the time, ‘What is your favorite this? What is your favorite that? What is your favorite that?’ And one time, ‘What is your favorite word?’ And I said, ‘My favorite word? That is really easy. My favorite word is the Word, is the Word. And that is everything. It says it all for us. And you know the biblical reference, you know the Gospel reference of the Word.”

Yesterday it was the Congressional Black Caucus emulating the morality of certain Republicans. Now it’s Speaker Pelosi getting on the evangelical bandwagon.

I think I should have extended my trip –

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/66208

bugatti

June 3rd, 2010
11:32 am

“The place has always been known for its dirty politics ”

Jay support a President from Chicago and writes this. LOL!!

Un-friggin’ believable.

AmVet

June 3rd, 2010
11:33 am

USinUK, at 11:28, hysterical.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

June 3rd, 2010
11:33 am

Well, like I said before, you can get a case of VD just from driving thru South Carolina. When they say their politicans screw people, they really mean it.

Anyhow, you can’t blame that woman for being upset about these kiss and tell people. I mean, she’s probly looking around and expecting a third man to pop up out of nowhere and claim he was in bed with her when she was with the other two. Just to be safe, she needs to put another couple TV ads in the hopper.

And the worst part of it is, she’s a Republican. And the guvner that run around with the South American woman on the Appalachian Trail, he’s a Republican too. And then we read about how that cocaine-sniffing Rev. Haggard is about to open his own church after he got un-gayed. Turns out he’s a Republican too. And we just barely got over the Congress guy in FL that was writing love notes to the boy pages and the senator that was playing footsie in the airport stall with a cop and the Nevada senator was was running around with his aide’s wife and got his parents to pay them off. And guess what, they were Republicans too. Us Republicans sure have had a run of back luck in the past couple years. If this keeps up, even Republicans will be voting against Republicans and calling them a bunch of preverts.

I won’t be too suprized if the next big news story is of some muckety-muck getting caught doing You Know What with a goat or a mule. And sure as the Lord made little green apples, he’ll be a Republican too.

Have a good lunch everybody.

josef nix

June 3rd, 2010
11:33 am

USinUK

Are the actors in this drama Southern Baptists? Link please. :-)

stands for decibels

June 3rd, 2010
11:33 am

SoBap self-righteousness (and prudishness)

rut roh… get the fainting couch ready.

josef nix

June 3rd, 2010
11:34 am

Bosch–
I know I ought to call you on the carpet, but mine did, too!

Bosch

June 3rd, 2010
11:34 am

USinUK,

I just get the feeling this man has never had sex with a woman before, (or man for that matter on second thought) — he’s a little on the clown creepy side — and that fake hair would have to have been a problem during a trist. Watch it when you get home and see what ‘cha think.

@@

June 3rd, 2010
11:36 am

that’s rich.

Sorry you took it so personally, USUK. There’s likely a reason why…

It’s not enough that this guy (whoever he is) is a man….now Bosch needs him to be a gay man?

Whatever makes you “guys” happy. If gossiping and speculating about a person’s sexual orientation does the trick for you, then so be it.

I’m just amazed at what you find worthy of discussion is all.

Bosch

June 3rd, 2010
11:36 am

josef,

That’s what I like about you – you have a good sense of humor and can laugh at yourself – I didn’t want to offend you or jewcowboy, but damn, so you agree? Good.

bugatti

June 3rd, 2010
11:36 am

stands for decibels

“SoBap self-righteousness (and prudishness)”

Like we are supposed to be shocked that a liberal will take any and every opportunity to attack a person’s religion. Get a clue, Pal.

Bosch

June 3rd, 2010
11:37 am

PAUL! PAUL! YOU CAME BACK!

josef nix

June 3rd, 2010
11:37 am

@@

Want a bite of snickers bar? ISH

USinUK

June 3rd, 2010
11:38 am

PAUL!! there you are … we’ve been worried …

dB – “rut roh… get the fainting couch ready.” — just doing what I can to stimulate a lifely conversation

“Who among us would not enjoy an affair with Nikki Haley?” … ummm … well … me.

JoNix – you’re right … Nikki Haley says she’s a Methodist …

which reminds me of my favorite joke – what’s the difference between a SoBap and a Methodist???

a Methodist will actually acknowledge you when they see you in the liquor store …

Peadawg

June 3rd, 2010
11:38 am

I find it hilarious when people apologize for cheating. The only they’re sorry for is getting caught. If you’re truly sorry, you wouldn’t have cheated in the first place.

Road Scholar

June 3rd, 2010
11:40 am

Where are all the repubs defending her and his honor? Was Pres. Obama responsible for their affairs?

Bosch

June 3rd, 2010
11:40 am

“now Bosch needs him to be a gay man?”

WTF? Nope, I don’t NEED him to be gay, I’m just thinking that — he is.

Outhouse Gokart

June 3rd, 2010
11:40 am

A 21st century sexually active independent woman. Whats the problem? Seems this would be right up the Dems alley.

PS…agreed with sfd…an affair with Ms Nikki…hubba hubba.

FrankLeeDarling

June 3rd, 2010
11:41 am

bugatti

June 3rd, 2010
11:41 am

Peadawg

“I find it hilarious when people apologize for cheating. The only they’re sorry for is getting caught. If you’re truly sorry, you wouldn’t have cheated in the first place.”

I agree, but you have to admit, an apology is a lot better than this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiIP_KDQmXs

Paul

June 3rd, 2010
11:41 am

josef nix

She’s Methodist.

And… she’s the daughter of Indian immigrants. Hmmmm… does this count as a Republican reachout to minorities?

Hi Bosch!

Yup, but even tho I’m here, I’m about to attend to other stuff. Gotta pay the rent, ya’ know.

TM

June 3rd, 2010
11:42 am

Abe should have said “ok with me” in December 1860.

We, therefore, the People of South Carolina, by our delegates in Convention assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, have solemnly declared that the Union heretofore existing between this State and the other States of North America, is dissolved, and that the State of South Carolina has resumed her position among the nations of the world, as a separate and independent State; with full power to levy war, conclude peace, contract alliances, establish commerce, and to do all other acts and things which independent States may of right do.

Adopted December 24, 1860

josef nix

June 3rd, 2010
11:42 am

Bosch–
Like I said, I know I’m supposed to be offended, but you can’t go hurling stones for what you did yourself…

now as for UK taking it to the Pink Elephant…but he does remind me a lot more of that great Democrat Edwards… :-)

FrankLeeDarling

June 3rd, 2010
11:42 am

Ha! South Carolina a state even Alabama can laugh at.

Paul

June 3rd, 2010
11:43 am

USinUK

Thanks. Good to hear from you, too -

Bosch

June 3rd, 2010
11:43 am

HI ya Paul! I too was worried you’d forsaken us like Mrs. G. Alas, I must go now too and get some things done. Glad you’re back. I need you to keep me grounded.

bugatti

June 3rd, 2010
11:43 am

“These allegations are false. And I need to go back to work for the American People. ”

And the guy is still a liberal God.

@@

June 3rd, 2010
11:44 am

I don’t NEED him to be gay, I’m just thinking that — he is.

Sure you do, Bosch. It makes for more titillating gossip.

USinUK

June 3rd, 2010
11:44 am

@@ – Sorry you took it so personally, USUK.

no, dear – I just find it … well … sad, really, that your raison d’etre seems to be criticizing the posters here …

maybe you should go play with your beans -

thomas

June 3rd, 2010
11:45 am

Who here is honestly surprised by anythign we hear in the orbit of politics?

But why cross out gentleman? He is only cleaning his soul and conscience?

Bosch,

from down stairs:
“finagelings”

I do like!

Appologies for the off topic for those of you who are offended by that sorta thing

bugatti

June 3rd, 2010
11:46 am

@@

It all bolls down to what I have been saying.

Republicans are held to a much higher standard. A Democrats that lies and cheats and betrays their family is expected. When a Republican does it, it’s big news.

Paul

June 3rd, 2010
11:47 am

Bosch

Before you go – if you wanna stay grounded, take an electrical wall receptacle with three holes. Get a piece of wire….

Last night I remarked I stopped by for a sanity check. The following posts were hilarious.

Finally, look on the bright side of all this. For once, it’s the lobbyist getting screwed!

Now go to work.

USinUK

June 3rd, 2010
11:47 am

bug – “Like we are supposed to be shocked that a liberal will take any and every opportunity to attack a person’s religion. ”

not a person’s … just a region’s …

Peadawg

June 3rd, 2010
11:48 am

“Republicans are held to a much higher standard. A Democrats that lies and cheats and betrays their family is expected. When a Republican does it, it’s big news.”

It’s just b/c Democrats don’t run on a family values platform. :roll:

USinUK

June 3rd, 2010
11:48 am

bug – “Republicans are held to a much higher standard”

well, if they didn’t present themselves as God’s Own Party / the family values party, then they wouldn’t make such easy targets …

AmVet

June 3rd, 2010
11:48 am

“Who among us would not enjoy an affair with Nikki Haley?”

HUH???

In one word, neo-conservative girls; yuck…

josef nix

June 3rd, 2010
11:49 am

USinUK and PAUl

Methodists can dance standing up….

Indian immigrants…? Her folks come from Oklahoma?

I do find it interesting that the Indians (both kinds) tend to be GOP…so is Cao…seems the Party of Diocletian of the Potomac is having more success than the Party of Jefferson Davis (BTW Happy Birthday, Jeff) in attracting these minorities…hmmmm

USinUK

June 3rd, 2010
11:50 am

FLD – 11:42 – now, that’s funny.

Kamchak

June 3rd, 2010
11:50 am

RIP Rue McClanahan.

USinUK

June 3rd, 2010
11:51 am

Jo Nix – “Methodists can dance standing up….”

gotta say, I enjoyed my stint with the methodist church – good people, not particularly judgey-judge …

Paul

June 3rd, 2010
11:51 am

josef nix

“Indian immigrants…? Her folks come from Oklahoma? ”

Good guess. But the Jeopardy answer is, “Indiana.”

jt

June 3rd, 2010
11:51 am

If South Carolina is the Horizon of politics,

then Chicago is the Hiroshima, Dresdan firebombing, Mai Lai Massacre, trail of tears, Chernobal, Calcutta Black Hole, Charge of the Light Brigade x 100.

I’m otta here.

josef nix

June 3rd, 2010
11:52 am

@@

Thanks for taking the serious high road here…much appreciated.

USinUK

June 3rd, 2010
11:52 am

Kam – “RIP Rue McClanahan”

she’s the last in our celebrity trifecta???

Gary Coleman, Dennis Hopper and Rue McClanahan … talk about 3 people who couldn’t have LESS in common …

bugatti

June 3rd, 2010
11:53 am

USinUK

“It’s just b/c Democrats don’t run on a family values platform”

I can’t disagree with that. But it isn a fact that they are held to a higher standard. I’m sort of proud of that.

After all the Big Government Plantation platform doesn’t really have a lot to be proud of.

Kamchak

June 3rd, 2010
11:55 am

If South Carolina is the Horizon of politics,

then Chicago is the Hiroshima, Dresdan firebombing, Mai Lai Massacre, trail of tears, Chernobal, Calcutta Black Hole, Charge of the Light Brigade x 100.

Puh-leeze. The Longs of Louisiana could be held up as poster boys for corruption.

USinUK

June 3rd, 2010
11:57 am

bugatti – “I’m sort of proud of that.”

um – you realize that it isn’t a “higher” standard to report things – the Al/Tipper split is still being reported, the Edwards affair/baby was still reported, etc … the reason that the gay male escort story was such a big deal was that the guy was such a raging homophobe — not because he was a Republican, per se.

“After all the Big Government Plantation platform doesn’t really have a lot to be proud of.”

my parents (both children of the depression) respectfully disagree

USinUK

June 3rd, 2010
11:58 am

“The Longs of Louisiana could be held up as poster boys for corruption.”

don’t forget about Eddie Edwards!! “The only way I can lose this election is if I’m caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy” – now, THAT’S brass!

josef nix

June 3rd, 2010
11:58 am

Well, if we’re going to be equal opportunity here…Barney Frank anyone…? I mean that turkey should be roosting outside Spartanburg…

Scout

June 3rd, 2010
11:59 am

YAWN ………………….

@@

June 3rd, 2010
12:00 pm

USUK:

Let me explain to you how I operate when here. I read more than I post. When I’m not posting, I’m off to other sites getting the breaking news. I drop back in here…see something that piques my interest (be it from the left or right) and I’m off to research.

When I come in and the site is trashed with girlie gossip, it makes the search for substance more time consuming.

thomas:

I have no problem with off-topic comments. It’s mundane gossip that I find unbearable, not only here, but anywhere. I’ve told some of my best friends not to bother sharing gossip with me. I’ve stopped ‘em in mid-sentence with “I’m not interested in what you think you know about someone else.”

USinUK

June 3rd, 2010
12:02 pm

@@ – “When I come in and the site is trashed with girlie gossip, it makes the search for substance more time consuming”

which is why it’s so amusing (in a sad/pathetic way) that pretty much ALL of your comments here today have been criticizing other posters …

Outhouse Gokart

June 3rd, 2010
12:02 pm

In our own special way, we all loved Rue!

josef nix

June 3rd, 2010
12:02 pm

Hey, y’all leave my Long boys alone! Edwin Edwards, too.. “Vote for the Crook. It’s important.” Too bad Louisiana ain’t got one there right now…they didn’t lie ’bout it, put on a good show, and delivered the goods…what more do you want from a politician?

Scout

June 3rd, 2010
12:03 pm

Jay:

If you want to talk about dirty, sleazy, grimey, sludgey, thug politics …….. do a thread on Obama and those two jobs offers for people to get out of political races. And don’t forget the Illinois Governor’s case that was shut down early so Obama wouldn’t get himself on “tape” for an indictable/impeachable offense as President-Elect ………………

Tiger Woods + Jesse James = SuperBAD meets SuperEVIL in "SuperUGLY!"

June 3rd, 2010
12:03 pm

I’m just happy to see that it’s finally a Republican scandal that involves HETEROSEXUAL extramarital affairs for once.

Hey Nikki, call me. I’ve got a few days before I go back into rehab (I’m out on an “unauthorized” five-day pass) I’d like to get together and “unleash the Tiger” into your personal politics just like you said….and bring some of your young, hot and sexy female lobbyist friends with you….and that hot newslady….and her hot female producer…and her hot female roommate….and, well you get the picture

Saul Good

June 3rd, 2010
12:03 pm

I’m just wondering how long it will take for her to tell the truth and just finally ADMIT the affairs. Sanford finally did. Though his stupidity and actions cost him his wife… the consequences of lying to the people of SC when he disappeared and tried to cover it up were basically ZERO. A “scolding” is abut all he got. Nikki (great name for porn) needs to just fess up. I mean she’s got Sarah and the other extreme members of the party backing her… how could she lose?

thomas

June 3rd, 2010
12:05 pm

Seems some here think only republicans are hard core literal meaning christians or that only conservative and not liberaal people would believe that way either.

And apparently some seem to feel it is a regional thing?

well lets all take a guess who said these…………………..

says she believes she must pursue public policies “in keeping with the values” of Jesus Christ, “The Word made Flesh.”

“They ask me all the time, ‘What is your favorite this? What is your favorite that? What is your favorite that?’ And one time, ‘What is your favorite word?’ And I said, ‘My favorite word? That is really easy. My favorite word is the Word, is the Word. And that is everything. It says it all for us. And you know the biblical reference, you know the Gospel reference of the Word.”
“And that Word,” ********** said, “is, we have to give voice to what that means in terms of public policy that would be in keeping with the values of the Word. The Word. Isn’t it a beautiful word when you think of it? It just covers everything. The Word.

“Fill it in with anything you want. But, of course, we know it means: ‘The Word was made flesh and dwelt amongst us.’ And that’s the great mystery of our faith. He will come again. He will come again. So, we have to make sure we’re prepared to answer in this life, or otherwise, as to how we have measured up.”

Now doesn’t this kinda throw a wrench into the gears?

Either its a lie of a quote, or the person believes in what they are saying.

Rod Blagojevich

June 3rd, 2010
12:05 pm

I have no comment at this time.

USinUK

June 3rd, 2010
12:05 pm

“If you want to talk about dirty, sleazy, grimey, sludgey, thug politics …….. do a thread on Obama and those two jobs offers for people to get out of political races.”

oh NOES!!!! they offered JOBS???!!!

I love naivete … it’s just so … cute …

@@

June 3rd, 2010
12:05 pm

josef:

No problem, and to prove the point I was making at 12:00, this was put in my favorites after reading some of your discussions here.

Stuff I did not know.

RB from Gwinnett

June 3rd, 2010
12:05 pm

I wonder why Jay can never seem to find any D’s who embarrass themselves like this? Perhaps he doesn’t have the intellectual honesty one would expect from a “journalist”.

D’s don’t run on family values because they have no morals. Pretty much any behavior a person wants to engage in is fine with them as long as it doesn’t affect them and rich people or evil corporations have to pick up the tab.

Kamchak

June 3rd, 2010
12:06 pm

When I come in and the site is trashed with girlie gossip, it makes the search for substance more time consuming.

Poor thing. We must now take into account that we are now wasting someone’s precious time.

We will now bow our heads in silent contemplation on how best we will serve one who is evidently so much better than us.

bugatti

June 3rd, 2010
12:08 pm

USinUK

my parents (both children of the depression) respectfully disagree

They are not on the plantation. The plantation is the acres and acres of Great Society Ghettos all over America where they always command 95% of the votes, give the people the very worst education, the least opportunities and the constant string of propaganda, blaming the very party that stood beside them to fight the racist Democrats for their rights.

bleary

June 3rd, 2010
12:08 pm

I sure hope this does not mean Republicans will stop lecturing me on moral values, especially abstinance only. Abstinence only for Democrats, teenagers, and people they do not like. Everybody else can party!!!

USinUK

June 3rd, 2010
12:09 pm

“We will now bow our heads in silent contemplation on how best we will serve one who is evidently so much better than us.”

well, when serving a dish so bitter, I generally use vinegar or lemon juice to balance out the flavors …

Tiger Woods + Jesse James = SuperBAD meets SuperEVIL in "SuperUGLY!"

June 3rd, 2010
12:10 pm

Scout

June 3rd, 2010
12:03 pm
“Jay:

If you want to talk about dirty, sleazy, grimey, sludgey, thug politics …….. do a thread on Obama and those two jobs offers for people to get out of political races. And don’t forget the Illinois Governor’s case that was shut down early so Obama wouldn’t get himself on “tape” for an indictable/impeachable offense as President-Elect ………………”

Yeah, two job offers to drop out of primary races against guys that were clearly gonna get beaten by decisive margins by Republicans had they ran unopposed and made it to the General Election. Yeah, smart, really smart….and this is what Obama is using that Harvard Law Degree for?

bugatti

June 3rd, 2010
12:10 pm

UsinUK

“I love naivete … it’s just so … cute …”

How do you feel about high crimes and misdemeanors, especially when a government refuses to investigate not just charges, but admissions made by the White House that they broke the law.

USinUK

June 3rd, 2010
12:10 pm

bugatti – “The plantation is the acres and acres of Great Society Ghettos all over America where they always command 95% of the votes, give the people the very worst education, the least opportunities and the constant string of propaganda”

and the fact that education funding is primarily determined by property taxes has NOTHING to do with that equation.

Normal

June 3rd, 2010
12:12 pm

Nikki Haley says she’s a Methodist …

USinUK,

A Methodist is just a Babtist that can read…from The River Runs Through It. :)

USinUK

June 3rd, 2010
12:13 pm

bugatti – “admissions made by the White House that they broke the law”

care to illuminate what is illegal in offering someone an inducement to NOT run for office??

Outhouse Gokart

June 3rd, 2010
12:14 pm

When will Nikki be appearing in Hustler Mag?

USinUK

June 3rd, 2010
12:14 pm

Normal – you are LATE to the party …

stands for decibels

June 3rd, 2010
12:14 pm

I wonder why Jay can never seem to find any D’s who embarrass themselves like this? Perhaps he doesn’t have the intellectual honesty one would expect from a “journalist”.

a-ha! I finally figured out–it stands for Really Bitchy.

1) There is this joint Kyle runs where you can see meaniehead libruls pilloried for all kindsa sins.
http://blogs.ajc.com/kyle-wingfield/
check it out, won’t you?

2) Finally figured it out. RB, it means “Really Bitchy,” right?

AmVet

June 3rd, 2010
12:14 pm

What’s all the fuss? Per BP’s “experts”, only 500 pints of oil a day are coming out of that hole.

OK, gotta go help pay for some liberal to save a pelican or dolphin. Or ecosystem.

And please! Save the environment! Keep SC neo-cons off the AT!

thomas

June 3rd, 2010
12:15 pm

USinUK,

Did you happen to gander at the quotes?

Does that sound like a southern republican or what?

stands for decibels

June 3rd, 2010
12:15 pm

The plantation is the acres and acres of Great Society Ghettos all over America where they always command 95% of the votes

Does this bigotry make my butt look big?

getalife

June 3rd, 2010
12:15 pm

I have been with thousands of women and she looks familiar.

Just sayin.

stands for decibels

June 3rd, 2010
12:16 pm

oy. I’ll come in again…

Scout

June 3rd, 2010
12:17 pm

USinUK:

We’ll let the experts fight it out …………….

18USC600: “Promise of employment or other benefit for political
activity”

“Whoever, directly or indirectly, promises any employment, position, compensation, contract, appointment, or other benefit, provided for or made possible in whole or in part by any Act of Congress, or any special consideration in obtaining any such benefit, to any person as consideration, favor, or reward for any political activity or for the support of or opposition to any candidate or any political party in connection with any general or special election to any political office, or in connection with any primary election or political convention or caucus held to select candidates for any political office, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.”

JKL2

June 3rd, 2010
12:18 pm

Reminds me of the Obama campaign using Tim Ryan’s ex-wife to advertize for them. Though he did nothing wrong, Ryan dropped out so Obama could run virtually unopposed for senator.

USinUK

June 3rd, 2010
12:18 pm

thomas – 12:15 – the sad thing is that it doesn’t – I’ve known LOADS of very religious Dems (heck, Jim Martin is one of the Elders in his church) –

however, unlike the GOP, Dems don’t run that THEY are the purveyors of all things family values.

Jay

June 3rd, 2010
12:19 pm

And I’m sure the condescending attitude in Bugatti’s post — the idea that “those people” just don’t know what’s really good for them, that they’re being kept on a plantation by their overseers — plays no role whatsoever in the black community’s rejection, at times even contempt, of Republicans.

Did you ever think, Bugatti, that maybe, just maybe, the Republicans’ own behavior and rhetoric might have something to do with their poor showing among African Americans?

Scout

June 3rd, 2010
12:20 pm

“OFF TOPIC #1″

Headline: “McCartney Bashes Bush: ‘It’s Great To Have A President Who Knows What A Library Is’… ”

I wish this “pot head” would go down to Texas where someone would kick his a** !

bugatti

June 3rd, 2010
12:21 pm

USinUK

“and the fact that education funding is primarily determined by property taxes has NOTHING to do with that equation.”

Sure it does. But setting up a system that results in perpetual poverty results in poorly educated children.

And of course, then there is the refusal of Democrats to allow any sort of private funding of advanced students, allowing them to attend decent schools. You let one of em get edumacated, pretty soon they ALL will want it.

Jay

June 3rd, 2010
12:23 pm

I’ll go off topic here — well, kind of, considering that it’s David Vitter — to post this email that I just got from Vitter’s reelection campaign. He too is opposed to Obama’s deep-water moratorium:

“Louisiana has been witnessing a severe lack of urgency and understanding from the Obama Administration and BP. Our state and our way of life continue to be under attack from the devastating oil spill, and now to make matters worse, President Obama’s has imposed a moratorium and shut down drilling in the Gulf of Mexico. Unless we lift Obama’s moratorium, it could kill thousands of Louisiana jobs.

Rigs won’t wait idly for six months, they’ll move overseas to places like West Africa or Brazil and take jobs with them. I have called on President Obama to replace his recently announced shutdown of deepwater rigs for immediate rig safety inspections.

This moratorium is estimated to kill up to 10,000 Louisiana jobs and possibly 20,000 jobs throughout the course of the year. Our workforce and economy have been significantly impacted from the oil spill, but Obama’s offshore moratorium could threaten potential revenue for Louisiana and be even more devastating.

Obviously we need to get our hands around exactly what went wrong with the Deepwater Horizon and develop new technologies and procedures to make sure it never happens again. But, the Obama Administration’s proposal to shut down the Gulf is a crazy leap and will send thousands of Louisianans to the unemployment line at a time when our state is already economically reeling from the oil spill.

josef nix

June 3rd, 2010
12:24 pm

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Thanks for the link…learn something new every day…I knew about Solomon, but I did not know about the Yom Kippur element…glad to see you are taken with the Sephardim…certainly aren’t the stereotype, are they?

bugatti

June 3rd, 2010
12:25 pm

Jay

“Did you ever think, Bugatti, that maybe, just maybe, the Republicans’ own behavior and rhetoric might have something to do with their poor showing among African Americans?”

I know you won’t answer this. It’s just not what you do, but is this your justification for what has been done to the Black Demographic in the past forty years?

I’m simply asking the more intelligent among us to look at the RESULTS of the democrat’s programs instead of the shallow promises. If you can do that and feel that all of their problems was caused by bad attitudes on the part of Republicans, there’s not much I or anyone can do about that.