U.S. Rep. Joe Sestak, the underdog who beat Arlen Specter in Pennsylvania’s Democratic Senate primary, says he turned down a nice job offer by the Obama administration that would have kept him from challenging Specter.
That news has Washington Republicans all up in arms, outraged at such blatantly criminal and unethical behavior at the highest levels of American government.
Well. Kinda sorta. They are at least going through the motions of pretending to believe it’s an outrage, including calling for appointment of a special prosecutor and uttering that magic word they do love so well: “Impeachable.”
It just sounds so juicy and full of promise, doesn’t it? “Impeachable.” Certain mouths begin to water at the prospect.
But it’s laughable, and Republicans in Washington know it. You can see it in their body language and hear it in their voices, even as they profess to be appalled. These are people who can look the camera in the eye and tell you with a straight face that the sun will rise in the West tomorrow, but even they can’t work up much feigned anger at this.
Nor can the experts. Listen to Melanie Sloan, the head of CREW (Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics):
“There has never been a prosecution based on such facts and I find it impossible to believe there would be. I think this is really just politics as usual. Parties routinely do what they can to clear the field for preferred candidates.”
Listen to Richard Painter, chief ethics officer under the last President Bush, who says this “is nothing new and it hardly rises to the level of a major ethics controversy”:
Congress gives us plenty of genuine ethics concerns to worry about – particularly the role of campaign contributions which are de facto “bribes” (watch carefully what happens to the banking reform bill when it goes to House-Senate conference). Voters should not be distracted by media generated sideshows having little to do with what goes on in Washington.
Listen to Peter Zeidenberg, a former federal prosecutor with the Justice Department’s Public Integrity unit:
“Talk about criminalizing the political process! It would be horrible precedent if what really truly is political horsetrading were viewed in the criminal context of: is this a corrupt bribe?”
On the other side, of course, are such legal giants as Dick Morris, Sean Hannity and Karl Rove (who I see described on one conservative blog as “Carl Rove, who was George Bush’s legal adviser…).
If the White House had offered Sestak a job so that he would vote a certain way on a bill, or to buy his silence about an illegal or unethical act, this would have legs. But it’s nothing like that, and Washington Republicans know it. They also know that every administration since George Washington has tried to arrange the political landscape to its liking in exactly this manner. You’ve got a lot of people with ambition and talent jostling in Washington for position, and the folks at the top, at the White House, have always tried to stage-manage the process to protect their best interests. The same is true of every governor’s office in the country and in many a mayoral office as well.
What you’re seeing is the national GOP playacting — and playacting pretty poorly, with no heart in the performance — just to get the folks back home stirred up and full of hope.
260 comments Add your comment
Normal
May 27th, 2010
8:27 am
Political fantasia is all.
Gotta love the Gop for their gall…
RW-(the original)
May 27th, 2010
8:30 am
What you’re seeing is the national GOP playacting — and playacting pretty poorly, with no heart in the performance — just to get the folks back home stirred up and full of hope.
That sure sounds like you’re calling the “folks back home” a bunch of ignorant rubes. Then again we do have a government in total control of Democrats so maybe you have a point.
md
May 27th, 2010
8:31 am
So I’m hearing “politics as usual” as an excuse, yet that is just the opposite of what came out of the campaign trail. Hmmm……….
Mick
May 27th, 2010
8:32 am
Much ado about nothing.
Jay
May 27th, 2010
8:34 am
Close, RW. Close.
The Washington GOP is TREATING the folks back home as a bunch of rubes.
stands for decibels
May 27th, 2010
8:36 am
Jay, I really wish you’d eliminated the word “let” in your headline and simply used “loose” as a verb here (correctly) just to annoy people who have that funny lose/loose spelling confusion issue on these Internets.
Otherwise, thanks for the typically rational bit of perspective.
This Sestac thing reminds me of the poutrage of ancient times, when Al Gore had used the wrong phone in the White House to talk about campaign contributions and the future of the Republic hinged on the outcome… or something.
jt
May 27th, 2010
8:36 am
“But it’s laughable, ”
No ….it is not.
Americans aren’t laughing.
Pennsylvanian
May 27th, 2010
8:37 am
Whatever happened to ‘transparency’? Why doesn’t the White just tell us what happened?
Louis Renault
May 27th, 2010
8:37 am
I’m shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!
Pennsylvanian
May 27th, 2010
8:37 am
er – White House
md
May 27th, 2010
8:38 am
Here Jay, you left this one out but I found it for you:
Axelrod acknowledged that if White House officials dangled a job in front of Rep. Joe Sestak’s face to keep him away from challenging incumbent Sen. Arlen Specter, that would “constitute a serious breach of the law.”
Jay
May 27th, 2010
8:39 am
And md, that’s certainly a more realistic approach than talking about special prosecutors and impeachment. But speaking for myself, I never for a moment understood promises of cleaner government to mean they wouldn’t do basic stuff like this.
No administration could function if they didn’t play politics with political positions and political people.
larry
May 27th, 2010
8:40 am
Lets see…… A political canidate says an adminstration offered him a job so he would not challenge a Republican turned Democrat vs. lying about intellegence and reasons to go to war and outing an active CIA agent AND using terror alerts to win re-election, etc.,etc.,
Which ones are impeachable and which ones aren’t .
larry
May 27th, 2010
8:42 am
Compared to previous adminstration, this is laughable.
RW-(the original)
May 27th, 2010
8:43 am
If you don’t think the “folks back home” will fall for it then you should have at least one more sentence in your last paragraph.
I’m heading to the forest now, but I’ll see what the “folks” have to say while I’m out. Last time I checked they were still pretty PO’ed at the Hope peddler in the White House.
See y’all later
Gale
May 27th, 2010
8:44 am
The amazing thing is that the voting public does not seem to wise up to the “politics as usual” and start holding elected officials accountable. The rabble rousing continues to work on the masses.
Sextet
May 27th, 2010
8:44 am
This is like the deal Reagan once offered Gerald Ford to be VP on the Reagan Ticket in 1980.
No it’s not.
Pennsylvanian
May 27th, 2010
8:44 am
larry – Did Hillary Clinton and John Kerry lie about “intellegence and reasons to go to war “.
jt
May 27th, 2010
8:44 am
What is some Democrat lawyer actually had a chance to beat Isackson in November but,,,,
Isackson owed a favor to Obama (cap and tax vote) so,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Obama offered the democrat lawyer a job up in Washington to ensure Isackson’s win.
The howling would be deafening.
Jay
May 27th, 2010
8:45 am
I left something out, md?
Don’t you hate it when people do that? For example, you yourself left out the rest of that sentence, but I found it for you. It’s the part where Axelrod says ““and when the allegations were looked into, there is no evidence of such a thing.”
Pennsylvanian
May 27th, 2010
8:45 am
And who really was the Valerie Plame mole?
BMDPD
May 27th, 2010
8:46 am
None of this is surprising. Name one politician who is ethical. It does not exist. I don’t agree with Obama’s philosophy and ideology. I also don’t mind seeing him take a few lumps. I am glad to see his sneakiness and wheeling and dealing brought to light. BUT… talk of impeachment is ridiculous.
Gator Joe
May 27th, 2010
8:46 am
Jay,
Richard Painter, chief ethics officer under the last (I hope) President Bush should be a reliable source, having witnessed plenty of ethics violations.
Should we file this latest scheme (Wiley Coyote would be proud) under “Death Panels?”
Pennsylvanian
May 27th, 2010
8:46 am
“and when the allegations were looked into, there is no evidence of such a thing.”
According to White House attorneys?
RLJ
May 27th, 2010
8:47 am
When it comes to character, nearly all politicians are impeachable.
Gale
May 27th, 2010
8:49 am
BMDPD, I think most people think Jimmy Carter was ethical as a politician. Unfortunately, most people think he was a bad president as well.
BMDPD
May 27th, 2010
8:50 am
There is nothing to this story without a confession, documentation or a tape recording. MOST Politicians aren’t stupid. They didn’t get where by making stupid mistakes. I am sure the deal was implied, but there will never be hard evidence.
Pennsylvanian
May 27th, 2010
8:53 am
Gale – Jimmy Carter ran a race baiting campaign for governor. Hardly ethical.
BMDPD
May 27th, 2010
8:54 am
Lastly, it goes both ways. If it were a Republican in the White House, then the Democrats would be screaming and making a stink. The only difference is that the Dems would have more media support. This will fizzle out.
jt
May 27th, 2010
8:55 am
Obama has his Katrina.
Now he has his Lewinsky.
Or maybe Water-gate.
He doesn’t have his Lewinsky……………..yet.
Jay
May 27th, 2010
8:55 am
For the record, I actually thought the last Bush administration was pretty ethical. The notable exceptions, such as the removal of U.S. attorneys who refused to abuse their power by pursuing political prosecutions, almost always traced back to Karl Rove.
But as a whole, and with exceptions noted, the Bush administration was less corrupt than many.
On the other hand, the Republican Congress of that era was one of the worst.
Mick
May 27th, 2010
8:57 am
jt
You are reaching……but there is nothing there to grab.
mike
May 27th, 2010
8:57 am
“What you’re seeing is the national GOP playacting — and playacting pretty poorly, with no heart in the performance — just to get the folks back home stirred up and full of hope.”
You mean the like the Dems and the national; media including Bookman do too?
Yes, Jay there are intellectually dishonest partisan hacks out there who will use any excuse to attack those who don’t agree with them, regardless of how lame. You are one of them, Mr. “Uppity”.
Physician, heal thyself. Or stop whining about the sickness. In either case, spare us your incessant hypocrisy.
md
May 27th, 2010
8:58 am
“I left something out, md?
Don’t you hate it when people do that? For example, you yourself left out the rest of that sentence, but I found it for you. It’s the part where Axelrod says ““and when the allegations were looked into, there is no evidence of such a thing.””
One would expect Axelrod to say the later, but by saying the former, he obviously thinks its a bit more than “laugable”.
BMDPD
May 27th, 2010
8:59 am
I know that the Dems can compile a long list against Bush. Heck, I will probably agree to some of them, but Obama’s list is getting pretty big already. The biggest is transparency which does not exist. He has some pretty shady connections and has made some pretty shady deals. I personally hope that one of them will stick and come back to bite him in the end.
Jay
May 27th, 2010
9:00 am
Hi Mike!
Didn’t I see you here yesterday, complaining about how posters were obsessing over you?
Don’t you hate when that happens?
md
May 27th, 2010
9:00 am
Last I heard, the WH attorneys “looked into” waterboarding as well. We all know how that turned out.
TaxPayer
May 27th, 2010
9:00 am
Oh! The horror of it all. I’m shocked. Aghast. What is the world coming to.
There. Is that the response that the Party of No was looking for. No! What! I’m shocked! Aghast! The horror of it all! What is the world coming to! Perhaps when Scout and Co., LLC, show up, the Party of No will get the response they seek.
BMDPD
May 27th, 2010
9:01 am
Jay, it is funny that you say that about the Bush admin. I met one of Reagan’s national security advisors at a Christian camp a few years ago. Off the record he told me that Bush was the most honest politician he had seen in his time with the government.
mike
May 27th, 2010
9:02 am
“Is that the response that the Party of No was looking for.”
or translated
“Baaaaa. Baaaaaa. Baaaaaa.”
Bud Wiser
May 27th, 2010
9:03 am
Oh yeah, let us focus on this created crisis while the Gulf still fills with oil.
Obowo the Fool can prattle on about anything that lets him escape his culpability in what may be the greatest ecological disaster in history, and his faithful moron troupe will still slobber and swoon over his greatness. Idiots.
JKL2
May 27th, 2010
9:04 am
larry- outing an (in)active CIA agent(who free admitted in public she worked for the CIA)
This is the same thing. No crime was committed, but they are still trying fevorishly to cover it up. The only thing that will happen is the Dems will come up with their own Scooter Libby.
Love the Transparency.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
May 27th, 2010
9:04 am
Well, I had my hopes up and could just about imagine us folks at Billy Bob’s whooping and hollering about this Kenyan getting impeached and throwed out of office, but it looks like it’s going to fizzle out. Heck, it ain’t even intrusting. There was no stained blue dress or cigar or nothing like that. Much less a big report we could all read and slobber about on the innernet tubes.
So I reckon we’re stuck with him till Newt and Sarah take over in January 2013. At least we got something to look forward to. Newt can’t get alone with nobody, so it ought to be real intrusting when him and Sarah start cutting loose at each other after their first falling out. That is, if Sarah makes it till then. I read someplace this muckraking reporter moved in right next to her and can even see into one of her windows. Hard to tell what he’ll write about about the first time Sarah and her man have a falling out or one of her girls forgets to close the blinds when a boyfriend comes over.
So it’s back to the boring for me. More lugging and stocking and waiting for Scout or somebody to come up with the next big rumor.
Have a good day everybody.
Donovan
May 27th, 2010
9:05 am
Let’s see…the Democrats control Congress and the White House and there is talk of impeachment? Yeah, that will happen. Even if that fantasy became true the possibility of conviction is a pipe dream. When Democrats supported a president who had sex in the White House, supported a president who lied to the people on TV, and supported a president who perjured himself in court there is no reason to believe that Democrats would hang their community organizer. The Bookman club members don’t have the character nor morality to pursue an investigation into yet another Chicago gangster type indescretion by their Chosen One.
stands for decibels
May 27th, 2010
9:05 am
Jimmy Carter ran a race baiting campaign for governor. Hardly ethical.
I’ll admit to having only a marginal understanding of how JC actually got elected Gov. back in the day, but I want to use this as a platform to ask a deeper question.
When you mislead voters about how you’ll do something bad, in order to actually do something good, is that really all that unethical?
The world is a messy place. IMHO means do sometimes justify ends.
I know that’s kinda hard for many throughout the ideological spectrum to process, but we are talking politics here.
BMDPD
May 27th, 2010
9:06 am
Palin will not run. She will be the new Ann Coulter. She already has all the fame she needs. She will not be on the ticket. Well, I hope not anyway.
TaxPayer
May 27th, 2010
9:06 am
or translated
“Baaaaa. Baaaaaa. Baaaaaa.”
or translated
“Waaaa. Waaaaa. Waaaaa.”
Wow. That was fun. Let’s do it again.
Pennsylvanian
May 27th, 2010
9:07 am
Taxpayer @ 9:00 – That is pretty good. You will have to do better to make the inner cluster of Bookman’s dingleberries with Bosch, USinUK, and Doggone. Hang in there…..
Soothsayer
May 27th, 2010
9:07 am
War has always been a turn-on, its thrill as old as mankind itself. It is intense; it is raw; it is primal. It reaches into every nerve, so carnal it borders on the sexually erotic. And many who cannot participate want to watch.
It’s called war porn.
This may be the most disturbing you will ever read. Take a few minutes and read this article.
BMDPD
May 27th, 2010
9:08 am
TaxPayer, I think it is quite hypocritical for a liberal to pick on conservatives for whining.
mike
May 27th, 2010
9:11 am
Jay –
LOL. While I find it amusing that you seem to feel that you and I are operating under the same rules. Let me point out a few facts that seemed to have escaped your notice.
1) You are a highyly visible public figure at the only newspaper in town. You have been so for years, including being a member of the AJC editorial board. You represent a public institution. As a result, commenting our your brand of “journalism” which has hastened the demise of our local paper is pretty expected. Folks spending their time commenting on an occasional poster does not.
2) You get paid to put out writings the enlighten your reader or at the least interest them. Your brand of undifferentiated partisan twaddle do neither. It is not my job to do this, despite your admonishments that I start a blog or criticize conservatives. Again, I am just a poster. You are the paid “journalist”.
Like most pundits, you are incredibly thin-skinned. Not surprising. Most bullies are.
Any time you want to actually address my comment, feel free. I am more than ready to defend my claim that Mr,”Uppity” is as dishonest as any you claim to be. Unfortunately, in addition to being thin skinned, bullies are cowards, so I doubt you will.
Shawny
May 27th, 2010
9:12 am
It is a non-event. Move along. Nothing to see here.
Just another distraction to move the attention away from growing jobs and sealing the border. Now, y’all get back to work.
stands for decibels
May 27th, 2010
9:13 am
Let’s see…the Democrats control Congress and the White House and there is talk of impeachment? Yeah, that will happen.
I’ve been meaning to post something that, I hope, won’t come off as too terribly patronizing but here goes.
I kinda know how it feels, GOP voters. Really I do. Back in the dark days for progressives, between Bush’s re-election and the run-up to the Nov. 2006 mid-terms, we kept hope alive with talk of “Chimpeachment.” It was insane; there was no way in hell that was going to happen, even if video emerged of George and Dick meeting with Osama Bin Laden discussing how they were going to make this weird gang of fundamentalist nutballs the fall gay for 9/11. Na gone duit.
But we clung to guns and religion, so to speak, because it was kind of felt good to reach out to others who were similarly unhappy about being out of power.
It’s what people do. Perspective is hard to come by; it’s something that happens at its own pace, and you only recognize what how silly some of the talk might have been with that benefit of hindsight, much later.
Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer
May 27th, 2010
9:13 am
No one ever invites me to join in the inner cluster of Bookman’s dingleberries game. (sniff sniff)
TaxPayer
May 27th, 2010
9:13 am
I’m still struggling to figure out just what “family values” means to some folks. Then again, who knows what they teach in some of those Republican academies of pious yearning.
NRB2
May 27th, 2010
9:14 am
Who cares if it’s impeachable or not.
What’s important here is this: this illegal alien freak of a president and his worthless criminal administration DESERVE to be harrassed and bullied every second of the day.
The sun shall not set one single day without them being reminded how incompetent, useless, and un-needed they truly are as human beings.
Obama and his adminis-dration offer nothing of value. They do nothing positive for the country or for themselves or their families.
They’re liars, criminals, and un-American. They prey on the hopes of the parasite class of this country, and for media shills like Jay, a glimmer of hope that they’re existence has meaning.
So Jay is right, the “great one” won’t be impeached.
But he will always be reminded how much he SUCKS.
TaxPayer
May 27th, 2010
9:14 am
TaxPayer, I think it is quite hypocritical for a liberal to pick on conservatives for whining.
You think
Bosch
May 27th, 2010
9:15 am
I think Bob Barr and the rabid wolves who from the day Clinton walked into the White House were completely obsessed with impeaching him on anything they could find – and actually succeeded – was one of the lowest points in American history and the impetus for the kind of back and forth derangement syndrome we see today (plus the fact that most of the stoopid think that if they read it off the Internets it’s automatically true – not knowing that any moron can make a web page and make it say whatever — maybe this is the elitist in me, but sometimes stoopid people don’t need instant information — especially when they don’t know what it means or how to cognitively process it).
We saw it from the left when Bush was POTUS, and we see it now with the Obama haters.
To me, it really all boils down to people losing control when they see someone in power who thinks differently — some can handle it better than others.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
And DAMN Luckovich! That cartoon cracked me up!!
Mick
May 27th, 2010
9:15 am
The clinton impeachment was a joke and history records it as such. Marriage infidelity by consenting adults, what did it have to do with governing? Nothing. Starr went overboard and a sexual peccadillo consumed the media. I actually don’t know anyone who is worshipping obama these days but you can count me as one who hopes he is successful in repairing the mess left.
jt
May 27th, 2010
9:16 am
We do have a legal precedence for this kinda thing.
Under the doctrine of stare decisis, all President Obama has only to go on national TV ,shake his finger, and lie to the American public.
Just horse trading.
Zedd
May 27th, 2010
9:19 am
federal code: 18 USC 600 says that a federal official cannot promise employment, a job in the federal government, in return for a political act.
“Section 18 USC 211 says you cannot accept anything of value in return for hiring somebody. Well, arguably, providing a clear path to the nomination for a fellow Democrat is something of value.”
“18 USC 595, which prohibits a federal official from interfering with the nomination or election for office. … ‘If you’ll get out, we’ll appoint you to a federal office,’ – that’s a violation of the law.”
The Section 600 statute states:
Whoever, directly or indirectly, promises any employment, position, compensation, contract, appointment, or other benefit, provided for or made possible in whole or in part by any Act of Congress, or any special consideration in obtaining any such benefit, to any person as consideration, favor, or reward for any political activity or for the support of or opposition to any candidate or any political party in connection with any general or special election to any political office, or in connection with any primary election or political convention or caucus held to select candidates for any political office, shall be fined not more than $10,000 or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=158617
Bosch
May 27th, 2010
9:20 am
OMG, Willie Nelson cut his hair. The world has gone to hell in a hand basket.
Chaka
May 27th, 2010
9:21 am
Slestak should seek refuge in a pylon.
stands for decibels
May 27th, 2010
9:26 am
this illegal alien freak of a president
I love the smell of steamed TeaTard in the morning. Smells like… victory.
TaxPayer
May 27th, 2010
9:28 am
What’s important here is this: this illegal alien freak of a president and his worthless criminal administration DESERVE to be harrassed and bullied every second of the day.
Uh. Oh. Ugh. Don’t tell me. I know this one… Is it “How do you know when you’ve won?” Is that it!
Fly-On-The-Wall
May 27th, 2010
9:28 am
You all know what this means. If the Republicans should take back a majority in the House then we can look forward to investigations, special prosecutors, and no work done for the citizens of this country much like what happened in the ’90s with those Republican Congresses. This will be the only thing for them to focus on. You watch, it will be the first thing out of the gate for them.
Normal
May 27th, 2010
9:32 am
Bosch
May 27th, 2010
9:20 am
OMG, Willie Nelson cut his hair. The world has gone to hell in a hand basket.
Bosch, I know! It’s truly a sign the end is near. OH THE RAPTURE IS COMING!!!
williebkind
May 27th, 2010
9:36 am
Zedd
May 27th, 2010
9:19 am
That does not mean anything to the progressive liberals. That only applies to conservatives. I mean the Obama team will not prosecute people standing in front of a voting booth dressed in gang uniforms with clubs initimidating voters. Now let the KKK do that!
Bosch
May 27th, 2010
9:36 am
“TeaTard”
My new favorite word.
Normal,
I hope so – then we can get rid of the creeper fundies and then we’ll be able to enjoy ourselves without them judging us all the time.
Bosch
May 27th, 2010
9:38 am
“I mean the Obama team will not prosecute people standing in front of a voting booth dressed in gang uniforms with clubs initimidating voters. Now let the KKK do that!”
What the hell?
williebkind
May 27th, 2010
9:41 am
The Tea Party! A movement by the American people to subordinate progressvie liberal socialists and give the government back to the people. A smaller smarter government with business minds in control instead of ideology and community organizers using public funds.
stands for decibels
May 27th, 2010
9:42 am
CIA agent(who free[ly] admitted in public she worked for the CIA)
:fish:
Thogwummpy
May 27th, 2010
9:43 am
Pay attention here. Jay Bookman is actually defending a possible attempt by the White House to use a bribe (in the form of a job offer) to manipulate a congressional election. He’s got the audacity to tell us, that “there’s no problem with this”. WHAT?!?!? Bookman is an example of all liberals: hypocrisy, ommission, distortion, corruption—it’s all okay if there’s a Leftist intention behind it.
And don’t you know, that if a GOP White House did this, Bookman (and Tucker) would be right out front screaming for immediate impeachment! Hey Jay, BP gave Obama more campaign money than any candidate in 20 years…and in return, they got all kinds of environmental exemptions to drill in the gulf. Is there a peep out of you expressing any concern there might have been a quid pro quo? Of course not. I can cite topic by topic where Bookman is going to play spin-master for the Democrat Party. Shouldn’t his column count as an ongoing campign contribution? Today, he says….”aw shucks…felony (for that’s what a bribe would be) intrusion into a Federal election is just dandy as long as Obama does it.” Jay, go “blank” yourself!
Mick
May 27th, 2010
9:43 am
The tea party seems to have flat lined as of late, besides its just a repub wolf in sheeps clothing.
Rightwing Troll
May 27th, 2010
9:44 am
I don’t understand why this is such a big deal, they already have 3 other “impeachable offenses” to tar and feather Obama with, Why don’t don’t they act on one of of those three concrete “impeachable offenses”?
They do have 3 “impeachable offenses”, don’t they?… Andy?…
Rightwing Troll
May 27th, 2010
9:45 am
Hmmm… is there a correlation to the GOP and Teatards talking points of late and Andy suddenly popping up with “impeachable offenses”???
Hmmmmm…… I’m just sayin’
stands for decibels
May 27th, 2010
9:45 am
What the hell?
In 2008, some proto-TeaTards found out that scary looking colored guys were photographed outside of a polling place. Caught in the act of looking scary.
They spread this photo far and wide.
It is nearly as popular among the TeaTards as is that youtube video of a naive colored lady claiming that she’d likely have an easier time of it paying for her house and car if Obama is elected. (boy do they love to reference that one!)
Anyhoo, these scary looking colored fellaz have has become a rallying cry for the flying-monkey right about how the 2008 election was stolen.
Aren’t you glad you know?
(I’ve provided no linkees because I have no desire to see this racist crap again, myself.)
casual observer
May 27th, 2010
9:45 am
We will continue with these bumbling idiots that run our country into the ground. This is ridiculous.
williebkind
May 27th, 2010
9:45 am
Bosch
May 27th, 2010
9:38 am
Oh and now we have the ACLU lawyers giving out names and pictures of US interrogators to Islamic extremists. Wow, those progressive liberals need more degrees because they sure are coming up “stupid”.
zeke
May 27th, 2010
9:46 am
Not any more fantasy than the fool democrats wanting to impeach W. for doing his Constitutional job! Obama has raped the Constitution! Pelosi and Reid have bribed Senators to push through an unconstitutional health bill! We have many unelected so called czars that are not Constitutional! And this bum wants to leave responsibility for our security to foreign governments? IMPEACH HIM!
Rightwing Troll
May 27th, 2010
9:46 am
“And don’t you know, that if a GOP White House did this, Bookman (and Tucker) would be right out front screaming for immediate impeachment!”
Ahhh another teatard prognisticator…
stands for decibels
May 27th, 2010
9:46 am
The tea party seems to have flat lined as of late
sssshhhhh. We’re having fun here.
bmw
May 27th, 2010
9:47 am
Zedd – thanks for posting that. The section that Rove and Hannity keep referring to is 18 USC 211, which says “Whoever solicits or receives, either as a political contribution, or for personal emolument, any money or thing of value, in consideration of the promise of support or use of influence in obtaining for any person any appointive office or place under the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.” The more I read that section, the more I cannot figure out exactly how it would apply to the person who allegedly made the job offer – I interpret it to only apply to someone who either accepts a job offer or asks for a job (both in return for political favor). But Section 600 seems definitely applicable here. The problem with both statues is that neither one requires jail time – even if someone were to be found guilty, they could get out of it with nothing more than a fine.
TaxPayer
May 27th, 2010
9:47 am
Tea and Party, taken separately are socially acceptable and even revered here in the south but once they are joined in an undesirable fashion statement, those tiny little tea leaves forevermore leave a bad taste. Perhaps they were simply left to brew too long and all that is left is a bitter taste, hyped up on too much caffeine.
Rightwing Troll
May 27th, 2010
9:48 am
“Obama has raped the Constitution! ”
Cite examples please? Examples of all the new czars please?
3 impeachable offenses? Higher taxes? Anything?
MT
May 27th, 2010
9:48 am
No big deal? If true, Obama tried to HAND Specter ALL of Sestak’s votes as payback for him switching parties. Then he tried to give away a position and a tax payer funded salary for democratic votes.
Just what this country needs: a president that manipulates elections to strip us of choices. In other words, Obama wants to elect Pennsylvania’s leaders for them.
Not only does Obama want to choose our leaders for us, he wants to hand off positions not based on who is the best candidate, but based on favors and bribes….which is probably why we always get stuck with incompetent federal government workers.
Makes my stomach turn honestly and I am a liberal.
I am sick of presidents that manipulate elections. SICK OF IT! Sounds like a HUGE favors were passed back and forth, IMO. HUGE.
Rightwing Troll
May 27th, 2010
9:48 am
Seepage?
Soothsayer
May 27th, 2010
9:49 am
IT APPEARS THAT THE “TOP KILL” EFFORT HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL.
TM
May 27th, 2010
9:49 am
In DC the coverup always makes a non issue a full blown crime. If there is nothing to hide just lay ALL of the facts of the bribe or non bribe on the table.
Big D
May 27th, 2010
9:49 am
Jay…duhh do you mean…kinda like Dems impeaching GW for war crimes.You are such a biased partisan dirtclod…please never ,never call yourself a journalist.
Soothsayer
May 27th, 2010
9:50 am
‘Top kill’ effort stops flow of oil into Gulf of Mexico, Coast Guard admiral says
Thad Allen, who is coordinating the government response, says the well still has low pressure, but cement will be used to cap the well permanently as soon as the pressure hits zero.
Rightwing Troll
May 27th, 2010
9:50 am
“Oh and now we have the ACLU lawyers giving out names and pictures of US interrogators to Islamic extremists. Wow, those progressive liberals need more degrees because they sure are coming up “stupid”.”
I haven’t seen anything about that. Do you have a link?
I'm here from the government and I'm here to help
May 27th, 2010
9:51 am
Today, President Obama will have his first formal, solo press conference since July 22, 2009. By my calculation, that means the champion of transparency and openness in government will have gone 309 days (more than 44 weeks) without going toe to toe with the White House press corps
Let’s see how he answers these simple questions.
1. Mr. President, since it has been more than 10 months since your last solo press conference, can you tell us why you’ve been avoiding us? Are you afraid of the scrutiny from a free press? What message does this send to countries like China or Russia, both nations which we continually urge to create greater press freedoms?
2. At the signing of the Daniel Pearl Freedom of the Press Act on May 18, you invited the pool of reporters into the Oval Office to watch you sign the bill, but you refused to answer any questions. Were you trying to be ironic?
3. About a month ago, historic floods ravaged Nashville and other parts of Tennessee. The waters caused more than a billion dollars in damage and killed more than 30 Americans. Have you ever considered visiting the state to see the damage for yourself and to console the victims of this disaster? If yes, what prevented you from going? If no, don’t you think they deserve your attention?
4. Six months ago, Umar Abdulmutallab attempted to set off a bomb in order to kill passengers aboard a flight landing in Detroit. Instead of questioning him as an enemy combatant, your administration chose to question him for less than an hour and then read him his Miranda rights so he could obtain a lawyer. Was this your decision? If it wasn’t, should you have been in the loop? If it was, do you think this was enough time to obtain valuable information in order to prevent potential future attacks?
5. Shortly after the Christmas Day bomber incident, your Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said “the system worked” and indicated Abdulmutallab was likely a lone actor. Subsequently, it was discovered he had deep ties to terrorists and your Director of National Intelligence Dennis Blair recently stepped down because of the critical intelligence lapses in the matter. Should Secretary Napolitano also step down?
6. It’s been more than a month since oil began spilling into the Gulf of Mexico, but since we haven’t had an opportunity to talk with you about it, why has it taken you so long to visit the Gulf Coast? You are going there on Friday of this week, but it seems your Administration has been slow to recognize the severity of the issue. Do you wish you had paid greater attention to the spill? And, is the federal government in charge of the response, as Carol Browner said this week? Or, is BP in charge, as Admiral Thad Allen said this week?
7. Way back in March, you signed a health care overhaul that only Democrats in Congress supported and 15 percent of House Democrats actually opposed. Is this what you meant when you talked about “changing the way Washington works” as a candidate?
8. Shortly after Arizona Governor Jan Brewer signed the law to try to enforce federal immigration laws at the state level, members of your Administration questioned its constitutionality. However, weeks later Attorney General Eric Holder and DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano admitted they hadn’t even read the law. The law is less than 20 pages long. Isn’t it reasonable to ask members of your team to read laws before they criticize them?
9. In March, the North Koreans sunk a South Korean navy ship in an act of extreme provocation. Since we haven’t had a chance to talk to you in quite some time, do you still plan to “sit down without precondition” with Kim Jung Il, as you pledged you would during the presidential campaign? If you plan to keep that pledge, what will you say to the North Korean despot about this attack on South Korea?
10. Since it may be after Election Day before we are able to ask you questions again, will you state now, for the record, if you authorized members of your staff to offer Rep. Joe Sestak a job so he would drop his primary challenge to U.S. Senator Arlen Specter?
Those questions should get the ball rolling for a lively presidential press conference. Set your DVRs to save the fireworks, folks. Mr. Transparency may not make an appearance again for several hundred days
Bosch
May 27th, 2010
9:53 am
sfd,
“Aren’t you glad you know?”
Uh, yeah. Thanks. Really?
Scout
May 27th, 2010
9:54 am
“Senategate” ………….. hummmm ……… I kind of like the sound of that.
Rightwing Troll
May 27th, 2010
9:54 am
“IT APPEARS THAT THE “TOP KILL” EFFORT HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL.”
Yeah!!!! Too bad about all that seepage though, what do they plan to do about? Top Kill the entire floor of the gulf?
stands for decibels
May 27th, 2010
9:55 am
kinda like Dems impeaching GW for war crimes
Well yeah. Kinda like that. See, this lady, might’ve heard of her, named Nancy Pelosi? Upon assuming the role of as Speaker of the House in early 2007 very clearly told the progressive wing of the Democratic party that impeachment was “off the table.”
Many people within this ideological band were very PO’d at her for it. But that was the strategery, and never again did any Democrat in the House seriously pursue impeachment (yes, I’m sure someone can Google a speech or a proposed non-binding resolution someone got into the record, but you know what I mean.)
Glad to be of service in your political education, Mr. D.
Rightwing Troll
May 27th, 2010
9:56 am
“Senategate” ………….. hummmm ……… I kind of like the sound of that.”
Why do you like that? Does it give you a warm fuzzy to think about the President of the United States doing a perp walk? (or just a Democrat President?)
Bosch
May 27th, 2010
9:57 am
“And this bum wants to leave responsibility for our security to foreign governments?”
Someone help me out here, my memory is a little fuzzy, but is zeke talking about Bush when he wanted to turn over security of our ports to the Saudis or something like that?
MT
May 27th, 2010
9:57 am
And BTW, as a liberal with some moral compass, I am also fed up with liberals (like RightwingTroll) who are completely lacking in standards behaving like feverishly attacking people on the right serves some useful purpose.
We share this country with people who have differing views. Get over it, be glad we do–it affords you the right to have very low standards in your politicians. If you want to find commonground or persuade the right, you will do well to stop the hate. I’ve never seen anything like this in my 40 years.
NEWSFLASH: democrats are only slightly different from republicans, stop acting like you are miles apart, you AREN’T. Half the time, I would swear democrats are worse.
Morrus
May 27th, 2010
9:57 am
Curiously, in a supposed anti-incumbent year, most of the departing are not retiring but seeking higher office. We may recycle more than we replace. The bad news is that a frustrating 114 seats still have but one contestant. Two of them aren’t even incumbents, meaning they will affect state policy without being vetted by voters. And I have to think that we’d be better off if many had run instead for the Legislature — and cut down on the number running unopposed. Georgia’s problems are numerous. They aren’t going away. There’s too much stale thinking at the Capitol, on both sides of the aisle. New voices would be welcome.
JKL2
May 27th, 2010
9:57 am
stands- scary looking colored guys were photographed outside of a polling place. Caught in the act of looking scary.
Voter intimidation doesn’t bother you? Your boy Jimmy Carter is looking to slap you across the mouth.
@@
May 27th, 2010
9:58 am
Ooohhhhh, I see how this plays out now….it’s only AFTER the “FACT(S)” or lack thereof, that the status quo becomes justifiable/acceptable to dems?
“This isn’t “change”; it’s sanctification of the status quo.”–Barack Obama
Got it!
I will say this…if the administration is reluctant to come forth with the details, it’s because they know THE PEOPLE would not approve. Quid pro quo? Status quo? No difference! Some of us, at least, have grown a bit tired of it.
Obviously not you, jay. Both are NOW acceptable.
I do luv, Joe, though. He never changes.
Thanks to the $787 billion stimulus package, Biden said he and Melody Barnes, White House Domestic Policy Council director, have talked at length about ways to “generate new ideas about how to deal with future employment needs,” Biden said. “We have new ideas about how to spend government money wisely.”
First off, it’s not government’s money. Second? Politicians require $787 billion before they can come up with new ideas??? Do tell.
That’s a helluva a raise to support the status quo.
RAMBLE ON!!!
May 27th, 2010
9:58 am
I think it is wrong for impeachment speculation while Obama is on vacation. It’s been almost a month since his last one. Hopefully, he’ll be able to get a round of golf in.
Give the man some peace, please. He’s been so busy…saving Nashville, TN from the floods, saving S. Korea from N. Korea, plugging that darn hole in the gulf. I mean deadgum, he’s going down for the 2nd time in 6 weeks tomorrow.
All of this on the heels of saving our economy from 8% unemployment and solving the borders immigration problems.
Chicago politics keeps a man busy.
ALL HAIL KING OBAMA!!!
Scout
May 27th, 2010
9:59 am
“OFF TOPIC #1)
To my Conservative friends out there …….. research project:
“Supposedly (repeat supposedly) the West Point graduation ceremony last week was opened to the general public for the first time in 100 years. Obviously, is this is true it was because the Obama staff wanted to saturate the audience with people who would provide some “enthusiastic” as opposed to “tepid” applause during his remarks.
If any of you can help me verify that one way or the other I would most appreciate it.
In addition, I have the entire tape of the graduation event and by the weekend hope to review every cadet (1,010) who received a diploma to determine if “any” did not shake the president’s hand. That part takes about an hour.
Stay tuned.
The Thin Guy
May 27th, 2010
9:59 am
Øbungle can’t be impeached because he’s not POTUS. He is an illegal alien illegally occupying the CEO. He should be arrested, drug from The White House in chains, charged with illegally entering the country, embezzlement of public funds, perjury, suborning perjury, misprision of a felony, and marrying a transvestite. After serving a length prison sentence he should be deported as an undesirable and illegal alien. This would be justice but it won’t happen because we are a nation of sheep. Have a nice day.
Del
May 27th, 2010
9:59 am
Just goes to show the intrinsic stupidity of the democrats. This isn’t about impeaching Obama, although who knows what might happen down the road with this fool in the office, it’s about defeating Joe Sestak. Sestak has been given a “poker call” even by members of his own party. He’s looking like an idiot for making accusations and then not having what it takes to back up his words.
Dave R.
May 27th, 2010
9:59 am
“If the White House had offered Sestak a job so that he would vote a certain way on a bill, . . . this would have legs”
Yet, you completely and totally dismissed the issue of the Colorado congressman’s brother being nominated for a judgeship he was clearly not qualified for in exchange for that congressman’s vote on health care reform, Jay.
Don’t you just hate it when you aren’t consistent?
I was wrong in thinking it would take a while for you to comment on this issue, but am surprised you actually try to rationalize it away. Especially your “Axelrod says there was nothing to this” defense which then leads to the conclusion that SOMEONE is lying. So you either have an illegal act perpetrated by the White House and they are lying about it, or you have a sitting congressman and candidate for Senate who is lying.
And it is just another “Ignore that man behind the curtain” day in Bookman-land.
stands for decibels
May 27th, 2010
10:01 am
Thanks. Really?
I really wish I were making that up, Bosch. Really I do.
Bubba
May 27th, 2010
10:02 am
There is nothing I’d like better than to see Obama out of office. But the thought of impeaching the first black president on anything other than blantantly criminal behavior is not a prospect I would relish. More than anything, what this episode proves, if true, is that Obama is nothing but a rank politician and all the talk of “transparency,” “hope” and “change you can believe in” is just so much hooey. But is anyone really shocked by that?
TaxPayer
May 27th, 2010
10:02 am
Taxpayer you too are an idiot…”in the south” duh… South Boston. Short memory?
Big D,
I sense a resemblence between you and my message.
Scout
May 27th, 2010
10:02 am
Rightwing Troll :
Remember, he got off the hook once already when Bush had that Illinois “quid pro quo” case shut down early before the president-elect got himself on a wire for an indictable/impeachable offense.
He got lucky on that one …………. we’ll see about this one. They are slick and hard to catch !
Got to run for awhile.
Back later.
Rafe Hollister
May 27th, 2010
10:03 am
Zedd: you are spot on with the legal citations, however the bigger question is who in this country determines what illegal things are “really important”. I am constantly amazed that there is someone obviously out there, who determines what illegalities are serious enough to be bothered with. We know illegal immigration has been determined to be ok, bribes given to congressman and Senators are not “really illegal”, illegal campaign contributions given by some groups are “ok”, whereas from other groups are serious violations. If we are not going to enforce these laws or repeal them, can we vote on who decides which one gets enforced.
jt
May 27th, 2010
10:04 am
Sad, tragic, but true——————————A real disappointment. On Topic———————-
From Don Emmerich–
“Had McCain-Palin won the election, we’d still have a viable antiwar movement, not just Cindy Sheehan and her ragtag gang.[5] We’d still have millions of Americans decrying the wars in the Middle East and the nation’s abandonment of the rule of law. But Obama has managed to silence all but a handful of these critics. The moment he gave his victory speech in Grant Park, those who’d spent the previous eight years protesting the policies of the Bush-Cheney regime decided that the fight was over. They suddenly became apologists for executive power and in no time at all could be found defending their man’s broken campaign promises.
So I hope we’ve all learned our lesson. Some of you, I’m happy to see, have concluded that they’re all a bunch of crooks and have completely abandoned faith in the American political system. Others continue hoping—in my opinion, hoping against hope. Well, fine, that’s your right.”
Never settle for evil. Lessor or otherwise.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
May 27th, 2010
10:04 am
Well, use to be bribes was pretty simple. A guy offered you a pint of booze if you voted for a guy. So you went in an voted and picked up your pint on the way out. Then they kilt that off by making the liquor stores close on election day. So not only can’t you have a stiff gulp on Sunday after a boring sermon but you can’t have one on election day when you find out who’s going to be sticking it to you for the next two years.
And now the bribes got all fancy and you can’t hardly tell what’s a bribe and what’s not. Let’s just get back to booze as a bribe. It’ll never do you wrong. And you can even take a picture of it as proof.
Rational Person
May 27th, 2010
10:05 am
Jay
May 27th, 2010
8:55 am
For the record, I actually thought the last Bush administration was pretty ethical.
————–
How about lying his hiney off to take us to war, thereby killing 100,000 harmless Iraqis?
Rightwing Troll
May 27th, 2010
10:05 am
I got standards, too bad squish liberals like yourself don’t meet those standards. Hey look either you’re with us or agin’ us… What’s it gonna be bedwetter? I wouldn’t expect a libtard like yourself to understand…
The above just being an example of the discourse here on a daily basis from the “conservative” trolls who shake thier fists at everything contemporary. I am just doing what others have done unto me here. It’s in the bible right, do unto others? Well by that standard this is what they wish done to them correct?
In other words you don’t know squat about me MT, so please don’t presume to pass judgement about me and my standards. I’ve stated quite often here, those who feel compelled to make a point of thier moral compass and higher standards usually have neither…
@@
May 27th, 2010
10:06 am
Del:
it’s about defeating Joe Sestak.
I agree with you regarding Sestak. I’m seeing it as a Mexican standoff between Sestak and the administration.
NorthDeKalbVoter
May 27th, 2010
10:07 am
Obama won’t be impeached, he’ll be voted out of office as a one-termer the old fashioned way. Currently holding a forty-five per cent approval rating and falling. The economy, job losses…now the oil disaster; bet he wishes he was still the rock star running for President. It sucks when you have to work.
Bosch
May 27th, 2010
10:07 am
sfd,
“I really wish I were making that up, Bosch. Really I do.”
Me too. My prejudice for dumbasses just spiked.
Jon but not Jon Voight
May 27th, 2010
10:07 am
I have been wondering how long it would take the repubs to start something like this. And if they ever reach a majority, you can bet this will become a reality. Repubs are obsessed with power, and that’s it. If they can’t win the votes, they’ll try anything to regain all the power there’s left to get. Just ask Bob Barr. He knows the truth since he is one of them.
Rightwing Troll
May 27th, 2010
10:07 am
I got standards, too bad squish liberals like yourself don’t meet those standards. Hey look either you’re with us or agin’ us… What’s it gonna be bedwetter? I wouldn’t expect a lib–tard like yourself to understand…
The above just being an example of the discourse here on a daily basis from the “conservative” trolls who shake thier fists at everything contemporary. I am just doing what others have done unto me here. It’s in the bible right, do unto others? Well by that standard this is what they wish done to them correct?
In other words you don’t know squat about me MT, so please don’t presume to pass judgement about me and my standards. I’ve stated quite often here, those who feel compelled to make a point of thier moral compass and higher standards usually have neither…
Jay
May 27th, 2010
10:07 am
Well, Rational, that’s one of major reasons I think he’ll go down as perhaps the worst president in our history.
But I never thought of him as personally corrupt, and still don’t.
Mick
May 27th, 2010
10:08 am
Scout
off topic response
Still obsessing over a commencement address? What happened when your hero bush threw out the first pitch at the nationals home opener in 2008? Lots of booing and disrespect hurled toward mr. bush who zinged in a high fastball and got off that mound pronto. He has a good throwing arm though.
TaxPayer
May 27th, 2010
10:09 am
Obama will travel to Louisiana and walk out on the water and proclaim, “Leak! Heal thyself!” and the leak shall be healed and all Republicans will know the power of the one to be known as the healer. Let it be so. Let it be said. Let it be printed on sticker for later insertion into Texas Text.
Rightwing Troll
May 27th, 2010
10:10 am
I see a certain word bandied about here has been banned so I will stop using a certain word that I have been using lately, teatard (just replace tea with lib to see the banned word), in the interest of fairness.
Bob
May 27th, 2010
10:10 am
No, he won’t be impeached. Even if something happened that was impeachable the GOP hasn’t gut the guts to pursue it, but most importantly, if anything happens to this president, the entire country would be burned to the ground by rioting African-Americans.
Del
May 27th, 2010
10:10 am
Scout,
I googled “Obama at the West Point commencement ceremony” and found a video of him giving his speech. The applause was tepid and panning out to the cadets it showed many not even clapping. Yesterday or today the top uniformed officers in the military wrote letters disagreeing with congress for plans to prematurely vote on repealing DADT. Conway and Casey were very vocal. Obama and the far left democrats don’t have many friends in the military.
I'm here from the government and I'm here to help
May 27th, 2010
10:11 am
Oil Spill, what oil spill asked Obama?
Could this be Mr. Obama’s Katrina? It could be even worse. The federal response to Katrina was governed by the 1988 Stafford Act, which says that in natural disasters on-shore states are in charge, not Washington. The federal obligation is to “support . . . State and local assistance efforts” by providing whatever resources a governor requests and then writing big checks for the cleanup. Mr. Bush had to deal with a Louisiana governor and a New Orleans mayor who were, by federal law, in charge.
But BP’s well was drilled in federal waters. Washington, not Louisiana, is in charge. This is Mr. Obama’s responsibility. He says his administration has been prepared for the worst from the start. Mr. Obama’s failure to lead in cleaning up the spill could lead voters to echo his complaint in Katrina’s aftermath: “I wish that the federal government had been up to the task.”
Rightwing Troll
May 27th, 2010
10:12 am
I remember Scout. We had a pleasant and enjoyable exchange on that topic. I look forward to more such encounters.
Bosch
May 27th, 2010
10:12 am
“the entire country would be burned to the ground by rioting African-Americans.”
Oh my freaking God.
Saul Good
May 27th, 2010
10:15 am
Del: “Obama and the far left democrats don’t have many friends in the military.”
Yeah…because Bush and the right were SO good to them!
Junior Samples
May 27th, 2010
10:15 am
We need to get rid of all of the sludge that resides in Washington. We can start with the mid-term elections this year and finish it up 2 years later. Big Chicago politics at it’s best….corruption through and through.
md
May 27th, 2010
10:17 am
Here Bosch – watch the video and others associated with it, and make up your own mind vs listening to posters on this site.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGbKHyGuHU&feature=related
And bear in mind that these fellows were removed by the police and that there was no official security hired at this site.
DawgDad
May 27th, 2010
10:19 am
Hope and Change – NOT!
BMDPD
May 27th, 2010
10:20 am
Will never happen government help dude! He will get questions like. How is the dog? How are the girls adjusting to the white house? Has Michelle harvested anything from the garden yet?
Jay
May 27th, 2010
10:22 am
First of all, Dave R., the congressman in question is from Utah, not Colorado.
Second, the nominee you claim is clearly unqualified is Scott Matheson, former U.S. attorney, law degree from Yale, former Rhodes scholar, former dean of the University of Utah law school. Orrin Hatch has agreed to help shepherd his nomination through the Senate,that’s how unqualified he is and how partisan this nomination is.
“It should be crystal clear that Scott Matheson is eminently qualified, and I applaud the president for appointing him,” Republican Rep. Jason Chaffetz of Utah told the Salt Lake Tribune. “The timing, I can see why it raises eyebrows. [But] I find it hard to believe. I see no evidence” of vote buying.
And if you want to go the “but Matheson never served as a judge” route, neither had John Roberts, Antony Scalia or Clarence Thomas when appointed to the appellate court.
Third, Rep. Jim Matheson voted AGAINST the health-care reform bill, and his brother’s nomination remains in effect.
Other than those points, you’re absolutely correct.
FinnMcCool
May 27th, 2010
10:23 am
Is Ken Starr available?
I know the conservatives would LOVE to throw another hundred million to the lawyers chasing pipe dreams.
“We be the fiscally conservative pahty.”
I'm here from the government and I'm here to help
May 27th, 2010
10:28 am
FinnMcCool,
Do the math? A hundred million to save TRILLIONS! And Obama is still writing checks!
Kamchak
May 27th, 2010
10:31 am
Half the time, I would swear democrats are worse.
Would that be the period in which your stomach dis-honestly hurts?
Dave R.
May 27th, 2010
10:31 am
“Third, Rep. Jim Matheson voted AGAINST the health-care reform bill, and his brother’s nomination remains in effect.”
Cover vote, Jay. He was allowed to vote against because San Fran Nan already had her votes after they paid off the Stupak bunch. If she hadn’t without him, he would have been pushing the “yes” button.
You do know how Washington works, don’t you?
And nice try using the “but there’s a Republican for this” argument, as usual. In that, you really are consistent when you cherry-pick one out of a hundred to try to make an invalid point valid.
Pennsylvanian
May 27th, 2010
10:33 am
Bosch? Bosch – you ok? Try to concentrate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGbKHyGuHU&feature=related
You ok with AG Holder dropping the prosecution?
Byron Mathison Kerr
May 27th, 2010
10:34 am
There is politics going on in Washington. Shock.
BMDPD
May 27th, 2010
10:36 am
Bosch, and riots didn’t happen in LA over racial issues? If he were impeached, it would definitely be spun as racist. And yes, there would be riots.
RAMBLE ON!!!
May 27th, 2010
10:38 am
He said CAP IT!!!
BMDPD
May 27th, 2010
10:38 am
Regardless, impeachment talk is crazy. I won’t and shouldn’t happen.
RAMBLE ON!!!
May 27th, 2010
10:39 am
and it was done.
ALL HAIL KING OBAMA!!!
Normal
May 27th, 2010
10:42 am
Ah, there are none so blind as those who will not see…
Obsessing
May 27th, 2010
10:43 am
Scout: In addition, I have the entire tape of the graduation event and by the weekend hope to review every cadet (1,010) who received a diploma to determine if “any” did not shake the president’s hand.
This is the post of someone with way to much time on their hands and is rather sad and pathetic. Does anyone care about this besides a few whack-a-doodle right wingers who hate Obama with a passion bordering on the insane?
Dave R.
May 27th, 2010
10:50 am
And don’t get me started on Sen Orrin Hatch, either. Completely off topic, but:
A number of years ago I was flying Delta from Atlanta to Washington, D.C. Our flight was seriously delayed in boarding and the counter agent was having a difficult time in calming down a man who was giving her grief about the delay. As I listened in, I heard this person say, “The Senator has to get to Washington for some very important votes”, and used the dreaded words “Don’t you know who Senator Hatch is?”.
As I have a deep appreciation for those who try to get us from point A to point B, and a deep loathing for self-important politicians and their entourages, I politely interrupted the discourse and asked the Delta employee why we were delayed for so long. She informed me that the main cabin door was showing not being sealed correctly, and that maintenance was checking it out.
I turned to Hatch’s aide and told him, “I don’t know about you, but the reason I fly Delta is NOT for cabin depressurization at 30,000 ft, so just go back to your Senator and tell him to cool his heels like the rest of us and leave this lady alone”.
Needless to say, there was no further hassle from the Senator and his aide.
John Wayne
May 27th, 2010
10:53 am
Dave R. – Needless to say, there was no further hassle from the Senator and his aide.
Wow! You put that Congressional aide in their place. You are so cool and macho.
saywhat?
May 27th, 2010
10:56 am
Great argument there, Dave R. Jay just completely destroyed every last shred of your initial assertion with little things some of us call “facts”. And your rebuttal? “It WOULD have happened the way I said it did if it hadn’t happened the way it ACTUALLY did”. You seem to think that being proven dead wrong only bolsters your argument. WTF?
AmVet
May 27th, 2010
10:57 am
Good morning everyone.
Impeachment???
Thanks for letting me start out the blogging day with a helluva laugh, Jay!
Last night one of the more courageous Barry haters here called Sestak a “candyass”.
Riiight! A three star admiral who commanded an entire battle group of tens of thousands of men and god knows how much weaponry.
Funny, coming for the crowd who never uttered a sheepish baaah when their REAL hero of the Texas ANG demonstrated to the republic that he was the most serially impeachable POTUS in American history.
Imagine that? Blind GOP obeisance from their parallel reality.
Algonquin j. Calhoun
May 27th, 2010
10:58 am
Where was their outrage when George W. Dunderhead falsified evidence against Iraq to justify the brutish attack upon and occupation of that country? Where was the outrage over the last the last administration’s attack upon individual rights and their evisceration of the Constitution? They’re trying, just as they did with Clinton, to undo the will of the American people. Didn’t work then! Won’t work now! Bring Bush to trial for his many crimes against humanity!
Bob
May 27th, 2010
11:01 am
Algonquin j. Calhoun:
If GOP wins control of the House in November, will the ‘will of the people’ have changed, in your view?
BMDPD
May 27th, 2010
11:02 am
Algonquin j. Calhoun, you my friend are a dummy. The Dems would be doing the exact same thing. Pot/Kettle. Quit posting and get back to work!
Dave R.
May 27th, 2010
11:03 am
saywhat, you obviously don’t know a thing about how Washington, D.C. works.
Or doesn’t.
BMDPD
May 27th, 2010
11:04 am
Algonquin j. Calhoun, the will of the people. Oh yes, sort of like immigration and healthcare reform. As I said earlier. Quit posting and get back to work. Oh wait isn’t today the day you get your government check or is that tomorrow.
williebkind
May 27th, 2010
11:04 am
As each day passes I realize more and more what a great president Bush was.
Dawgfan
May 27th, 2010
11:10 am
It’s funny to see liberals fall all over themselve to bow at the feet of Obama the infallible.
Hillbilly Deluxe
May 27th, 2010
11:11 am
When you mislead voters about how you’ll do something bad, in order to actually do something good, is that really all that unethical?
In my view, it is. If a man (or woman) will lie to you about one thing, they’ll lie to you about anything. The number one thing I look for in a President is that they can be trusted. I’d rather have somebody honest that I disagree with than somebody I agree with that is dishonest. Although it varies a bit from one to another, I haven’t really trusted any of them in my lifetime.
saywhat?
May 27th, 2010
11:13 am
On topic; Can anybody explain to me how Congressman Sestac could have committed himself to a new Obama administration position, and yet STILL run for the Senate? Wouldn’t accepting what, one would assume, would be a long term assignment, AUTOMATICALLY preclude any other job activity, regardless of intent of the administration in making the offer? One can be cynicalDoes this mean that every sitting Congressman or Senator who is offered a cabinet position is being “bribed” to leave Congress?
John Wayne
May 27th, 2010
11:14 am
williebkind – As each day passes I realize more and more what a great president Bush was.
Alzheimer’s is a terrible disease. Someday there will be treatment and cure. Until then, I’m sorry for your delusions.
John Birch
May 27th, 2010
11:16 am
Thing is the ultralibs didn’t want to impeach Bush. They want to haul him in front of some kind of war crimes tribunal (think Nuremburg comes to Atlantic City), convict him and then presumably behead him like Hussein.
JKL2
May 27th, 2010
11:27 am
mick- He has a good throwing arm though.
Unlike the scholar/athlete we have in the WH now who throws weaker than my 8yr old daughter and is stump by hard hitting questions like “name a White Sox player–past or present–that you respected and looked up to.”
7 “umms” later he deflected then mispronounced the name of the stadium his favorite team plays in.
john
May 27th, 2010
11:27 am
Ask the White House for clarity? Really? Why not ask Sestack to explain since he started this. Who implies something like that but just doesn’t finish it and tell it all.
Sestack is weak and he knows it and is going to lose to the Republican party nominee there. Remember this clown was a Clinton boob and always will be.
The problem with Obama is that he keeps trying to extend his hand and be nice. Bush had far less power and support and still got EVERYTHING he wanted done. Obama needs to say the hell with it and do what he wants. He got health care and financial reform through without repubs. Well, screw them and keep going. They aren’t going to support anything he does out of principle, anger, and hatred that flows from them especially when they are out of power.
And don’t forget about the turncoats like Sestack, Liberman, and Blanche Lincoln and don’t support them.
Problem solved
Saul Good
May 27th, 2010
11:30 am
AMVet said:
“Funny, coming for the crowd who never uttered a sheepish baaah when their REAL hero of the Texas ANG demonstrated to the republic that he was the most serially impeachable POTUS in American history.”
I SECOND that! Great post!
JKL2
May 27th, 2010
11:32 am
Saul – Yeah…because Bush and the right were SO good to them!
I would say yes he was, but that wouldn’t give him credit for continued support of the military since he left office.
It’s so much nicer working for a man who deplores your very existance.
itpdude
May 27th, 2010
11:33 am
Jay, the Bush Admin was ethical? Wha? I don’t know about everything else, but the Iraq War thing seems to be one big ole lie. Powell believed much of it was BS, Col. Wilkerson was amazed anyone bought the UN speech Powell gave, Cheney said there were WMD’s in Iraq, the whisper campaign that Iraqi agents met al Quada, the illegal immigration blindness for the benefit of agri-biz donors, etc, etc, etc. I simply don’t see the W Admin as ethical.
JKL2
May 27th, 2010
11:35 am
AmVet- Funny, coming for the crowd who never uttered a sheepish baaah when their REAL hero of the Texas ANG demonstrated to the republic that he was the most serially impeachable POTUS in American history
And how many times was he impeached? I’d think Nixon would have something to say on the subject.
Scout
May 27th, 2010
11:39 am
Del:
We both know that. I’m just trying to enlighten these liberal knuckleheads.
Mick:
I was at a similar event where V.P. Gore and his young son came out to the mound for Gore to throw the first pitch. He was booed unmercifully. I was embarrassed for the kid.
Rightwing Troll:
Seriously, on this “Senategate” thing I don’t think it has any legs. My only point was that if a Republican was in the White House, the MSM would be running with this for all it was worth. That’s the hypocrisy !
JB
May 27th, 2010
11:40 am
Your right……why would we expect democrats ( or most politicians) to obey and be held accountable to law at this point. If Obama DID break the law, how many of you that would support him would want him held accountable and dealt with…..How many would just laugh it off………..Sad that this guy was an Admiral ( Sestack) in our Navy and has lived by a code of honor his entire life. It will be interesting to see how many flea’s he has after laying with dogs?
saywhat?
May 27th, 2010
11:43 am
Dave R., What I do or don’t know about how Washington works, has absolutely nothing to do with how frickin’ wrong you were, and how completely Jay owned you while proving it. But, if it helps you sleep better at night, keep thinking what you’re thinking…..
Saul Good
May 27th, 2010
11:43 am
JKL2… okay…show me ONE thing in “writing” where Obama has ever stated that he “deplores” the existence of our men and women in uniform. I mean… he was never a member of the military, but he was certainly NO Dick Cheney or Bush for that matter.
Sad that you can not see how by sending our troops into battle in Iraq… to be killed, or permanently injured for life…that you do NOT see how that act was an “abuse” of them.
stands for decibels
May 27th, 2010
11:49 am
HD, if you’re still around, I appreciate your answer to my ethical question.
The conundrum is, if you expect pols to be honest, you’ll always be heartbroken. Perhaps I’m just trying to insulate my heart.
Fly-On-The-Wall
May 27th, 2010
11:50 am
JKL2 – do you really believe the Bush Administration was good to the troops? If so then please state how?
JKL2
May 27th, 2010
11:57 am
Saul- but he was certainly NO Dick Cheney or Bush for that matter.
The American apology tour has done nothing but make us a laughing stock of the countries that are trying to do us harm. Just wait until Iraq becomes the new Saigon when we pull out. Are you going to send the military back in, getting Soldiers killed, to clean up the mess or are you just going to let thousands die for helping us?
Chicago is asking to mobilize the National Guard to help protect its streets. I think you’ll find it’s currently more dangerous than Iraq.
JKL2
May 27th, 2010
12:00 pm
Fly- do you really believe the Bush Administration was good to the troops?
Unwaivering support in everything they do. It continues to this day, it just doesn’t get reported because he wants to keep it low key.
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AmVet
May 27th, 2010
12:01 pm
“And how many times was he impeached? I’d think Nixon would have something to say on the subject.”
JKL2, ss you probably recall his comrades in the Tweedledee Party – Pelosi, Reid, Clinton, Obama et al “took impeachment off the table” after the neo-cons got decimated in historic fashion in 2006.
Why? I haven’t the foggiest. (Honor amongst thieves?)
ken
May 27th, 2010
12:04 pm
You are as bad as Obama. A divider. Ever going to write about Van Jones ?
Fly-On-The-Wall
May 27th, 2010
12:05 pm
JKL2 – so that’s all you’ve got? Obama supports the troops, the Democratcs support the troops. Everyone supports the troops.
Does his lack of support for the wounded when they came back from his wars mean anything to you? Does his lack of supplying the troops with the equipment they needed or for that matter enough troops to do the job the first time mean anything?
I’m sorry but the rah-rah stuff just isn’t enough for someone who is the President and sends people to war.
Hillbilly Deluxe
May 27th, 2010
12:06 pm
The conundrum is, if you expect pols to be honest, you’ll always be heartbroken.
sfd
I didn’t say I expected it; I just said that’s the way it should be.
Saul Good
May 27th, 2010
12:09 pm
JKL2
Apology Tour? I have NO IDEA where you get your information from…but since Obama was first elected…the USA is once again “RESPECTED” around the world. The CT. Cowboy was the one who was “hated” around the world. I don’t even think you watch Fox… you must get your info from the deepest darkest KKK sites on the internet. WOW are you clueless friend.
AmVet
May 27th, 2010
12:11 pm
Once again, I predict the “candyass” Sestak destroys whatever poor GOP schmuck runs against him in November.
Even Karl & the Swift Boaters can’t help on this one.
Too bad, cons. He’ll make a damn good US Senator…
Saul Good
May 27th, 2010
12:13 pm
Agreed AmVet… a TRUE “patriot” who has spent the better part of his life serving the USA… just like Dick Cheney did (oh except that he never ran Halliburton).
Andy
May 27th, 2010
12:16 pm
18 USC 600, 595, 211 – three felonies. I suppose people lie all the time about “sex” too under oath so its OK to lie in court – if and only if your a Democrat. Sestak brought this up because it is and was an outrage.
Tired of one law for Democrats, another law for everyone else.
Tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth – act and speak with integrity – or go to prison when you get caught playing fast and loose with the law.
JKL2
May 27th, 2010
12:18 pm
AmVet- (Honor amongst thieves?)
I will agree somewhat on that. Hard to impeach someone for something you voted for. I guess Clinton was lying when he said,
“Earlier today, I ordered America’s armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq’s nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.”
They loved it when Clinton said it, they loved it w/Bush after 9/11, they have no recollection of any of that ever happening today under Obama. Time to “drain the swamp” and we can start with Pelosi.
diabolical butter
May 27th, 2010
12:19 pm
Tweedledee Party – Pelosi, Reid, Clinton, Obama et al “took impeachment off the table”
Why? because they knew they couldn’t.
JKL2
May 27th, 2010
12:26 pm
Saul- I guess it was from the limited amount of news coverage in Mozul.
I believe it was Ahmadinejad that called Obama a “cowboy”
Emboldening your enemies and alienating your allies is not what I would call earning respect around the world.
Jay
May 27th, 2010
12:28 pm
To Ken:
No.
JKL2
May 27th, 2010
12:29 pm
saul- you must get your info from the deepest darkest KKK sites on the internet
Why do you Demwits always have to throw the race card?
midtownguy
May 27th, 2010
12:32 pm
They tried this with Bill Clinton and failed and he actually did commit an impeachable act (lying under oath). Don’t they realize that attacking a popular president (and yes my fellow Georgians, outside the deep south he is quite well thought of) makes him even more popular?
A CONSERVATIVE
May 27th, 2010
12:34 pm
JAY REMAINS A VOICE for OBAMA…& the looooney Left…however silly he sounds…JAY….you R A pathetic comic figure on the internet.
A CONSERVATIVE
May 27th, 2010
12:36 pm
midtownguy…..Liberals HAVE NO PROBLEMs WITH CHEATING ON YOUR SPOUSE…THEY DO IT ALL THE TIME.
Saul Good
May 27th, 2010
12:37 pm
JKL2…Race card? Tell me…how do you feel about Hispanics? How do you feel about a Muslim moving in next door to you? How about one of your children marrying either an Illegal Immigrant or a Muslim ? Would you give them your “blessing”???
And NO…lots of the world’s leaders hated Bush… if you don’t know that… you just don’t READ.
Right after 9-11 we had the worlds support behind us…once Bush and Co decided to go and invade Iraq… he lost his support around the world. If you TRULY think that Bush was “loved” by other world leaders…post it.
A CONSERVATIVE
May 27th, 2010
12:38 pm
Liberals hold cheaters in high regard…
theyeshaveit
May 27th, 2010
12:38 pm
mike, even for a former AJC employee, you seem full of sour grapes and jealousy. Moreover, I find you lack any semblance of editorial (or even commentary) style or journalistic abilities.
I smell an inferiority complex. You should embark on a different career. Journalism certainly is not your forte.
Saul Good
May 27th, 2010
12:42 pm
A CONSERVATIVE: You mean like Cheney and Scooter Libby….RIGHT?
JKL2
May 27th, 2010
12:49 pm
saul- You’re the one throwing KKK references. When did I ever bring up race?
My sister-in-law is a Spanish teacher, I have a Muslim in the family(Raj) and if my daughter wanted to date an illegal immigrant I would probably report him to the authorities like any other ILLEGAL criminal I know.
Chaves, Castro, Ahmadinejad, and Calderon all love Obama. With friends like that, who needs enemies.
Maggie
May 27th, 2010
12:52 pm
Nice thing about having Obama, our first black president, in office. Everyone else has done something similiar in the past so Obama isn’t really guilty of anything. Cool way to operate. Wish we could dig up Nixon from the grave and tell him it’s OK now. No ethics necessary. Sorry for the bum rap. No one’s going to bother Obama with anything while he’s got better things to do like taking American into Socialism.
williebkind
May 27th, 2010
12:52 pm
Saul Good
May 27th, 2010
12:37 pm
Do I have to hate whites to please you? As for as world leaders hating Bush, it was only the socialist who voiced their hatred as they always do. Iraq, the Bush so called lies came from federal intelligence agencies. Did you know that? I think they are the same ones used today! But you could check it out or wait until the DNC progressive liberal hate “drive bys” come out with you an answer.
Oh! Do you approve of giving the names to interrogaters to islamic extremeist? Are you a card holding member of the ACLU?
Saul Good
May 27th, 2010
12:53 pm
Show me where ANY of those you mentioned say they LOVE Obama.
And I guess your daughter would go live in another country…so sad… so sad that you believe so strongly in “man created borders” which were created to “limit” humans… no good has ever come of the human created borders… just like the religions and “gods” they “created” as well…
williebkind
May 27th, 2010
12:55 pm
“names of interrogater not to”; I know how you edumacated libruls are bout edumacation. 13 trillion in debt. I guess math was not a requirement in librul college.
Saul Good
May 27th, 2010
12:56 pm
will…YES… I 100% support the ACLU. I don’t hate white people…but I also don’t hate brown people, yellow people and people who don’t believe in the same “human created” god as you either. I just don’t like “haters” who judge people based upon their skin color or religious beliefs… how about YOU?
williebkind
May 27th, 2010
12:56 pm
Saul Good
May 27th, 2010
12:53 pm
I rather be a baby raper than a progressive liberal. So how can I love Obama.
Joe
May 27th, 2010
12:56 pm
It just amazes me at how stupid democraps are. If he would have just kept his mouth shut none of this would have ever come to light. As bad as I’m sure it pains you Jay there could have been laws broken here. Lets appoint a special prosecutor to find out. If there is nothing to it then ok. It just don’t pass the smell test though when you have so many people trying to cover it up. I guess this will be payback for all the Valerie Plame crap you libs tried to convince us was illegal…
williebkind
May 27th, 2010
12:58 pm
I believe in Americans. I believe in the constitution and the forefathers. Some of those were not white.
BMDPD
May 27th, 2010
1:04 pm
Anyone watching the Press Conference? Has anyone asked a tough question?
Paulo977
May 27th, 2010
1:04 pm
Rational
Person
re: lie about Iraq attacking us on 9/11….Oh there were many more than 100,000 and the destabilization was so gigantic it affected the whole of the Middle East. From what we gather Bush and his bandits had decided on attacking Iraq even before 9/11 because of course Saddam had begun to move away from US controls . As for his other totally unethical acts , he provided the templates for them …what about torture for starters?
John Wayne
May 27th, 2010
1:05 pm
JKL2 – I would probably report him to the authorities like any other ILLEGAL criminal I know.
Kind of a d*ck move.
DawgDad
May 27th, 2010
1:06 pm
“I was at a similar event where V.P. Gore and his young son came out to the mound for Gore to throw the first pitch. He was booed unmercifully. I was embarrassed for the kid.”
Now there’s a person even an evil hate-mongering conservative can have compassion for – the kid, that is.
BMDPD
May 27th, 2010
1:09 pm
The DHS reports that the jihadists (oh wait, we can’t call them that anymore) have more plots planned against the US than ever before. I guess Obama’s bow down and apologize to the world didn’t mean much. Thoughts?
Sextet
May 27th, 2010
1:16 pm
Obama live on CNBC. On the top kill. Plugging the well with mud. Obama is being a real leader here. He’s acting decisive. His poll number are up, the market is steady as he speaks, things are looking good, he hasn’t said anything impeachable yet…..sez 20K people are on the spot cleaning up the spill. 3 million feet of boom to contain the spill has been deployed. …….Talks about reform.
Suspend exploration off the Alaskan coast.
cancel lease sale in the gulf and off va coast
suspend new deep water wells for six months
suspend operation on 33 deepwater wells currently being drilled in the Gulf.
He calls the oil companies so powerful, they regulate themselves.
Sound like bigger government. More regs. Market taking it pretty good.
Calls spill a tragedy.
BMDPD
May 27th, 2010
1:21 pm
But has anyone asked him a tough question? He came fully prepared for that one!
Saul Good
May 27th, 2010
1:21 pm
Willie…so you’re not a “human” first…you’re an “American” first? You believe as an “American” that you’re better compared to those from other nations?
Sad.
mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack the Liar Obama - BEND OVER, Here comes the CHANGE!
May 27th, 2010
1:24 pm
hmm, hmm…just business as usual in the NObama white house. The fantasy is he’s still president. – He will go down as the WORST EVER!
Sextet
May 27th, 2010
1:26 pm
The conservatives here are so lucky that I have been forbidden and banned from any serious reply to the ridiculous comments made here everyday, because, apparently, I have such a gift for making somebody understand what a total loser he is, that it’s causes such hurt feelings and unhinges so many clown acts, that what results is a disruption of the threads that Jay introduces, and thus is totally unfair to everyone. Also, my wife made me promise that I’d stop flaming other commenters no matter how inane I find the remarks and no matter how many threats, attacks, or disrespect my own comments receive.. “Share the internet”, she said, ” You’re not always right. Relax. Let them say what they want. Who cares? Let it go.”
And so I have. But you would not believe the backlog of material I’ve got. I’ve bitten my tongue so many times that I can’t taste salt any more. Oh, if these fingers could type…….
mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack the Liar Obama - BEND OVER, Here comes the CHANGE!
May 27th, 2010
1:28 pm
Serxtet – in your dreams.
Austin Axe
May 27th, 2010
1:41 pm
It was business as usual and everyone was doing it during Watergate too… Nixon got caught and Nixon was impeached. They are Chicago educated demacrooks. They may have gotten away with this all along in Chicago but get ready; this thing is going to have legs.
williebkind
May 27th, 2010
1:46 pm
BMDPD
May 27th, 2010
1:09 pm
It is Bushe’s fault! All this happend because of Bush. Obama tried to be nice.
John Birch
May 27th, 2010
1:47 pm
Sextet – Glad to hear you check with the wife first, sounds like the liberal puscatore kind of thing to do.
williebkind
May 27th, 2010
1:50 pm
Saul Good
May 27th, 2010
1:21 pm
Yepper, I am an American first. Human sounds like liberal cataloging. If they give you a number then they can erase it. Aint that right Sextet?
Hunter W
May 27th, 2010
1:58 pm
How do you have a job as a political blogger? This is AGAINST THE LAW. (I did notice how that wasn’t mentioned in your blog.) Just like a liberal to ignore facts, logic, and good sense when trying to counter a well-researched, fact-based argument from those who oppose you.
Idiot moron…
JKL2
May 27th, 2010
1:58 pm
saul- so sad… so sad that you believe so strongly in “man created borders” which were created to “limit” humans… no good has ever come of the human created borders… just like the religions and “gods” they “created” as well…
Yeah…that having freedom and owning property stuff just keeps the man down. I wish we could get rid of those evil things too.
“All the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting” George Orwell
Just keep sitting on the couch, watching CNN, and waving your flag, Saul. I’ll do the heavy lifting for you.
williebkind
May 27th, 2010
2:00 pm
JKL2
May 27th, 2010
1:58 pm
Well stated.
JKL2
May 27th, 2010
2:01 pm
John Wayne, Saul et al..
If you’re all for anarchy then bring it on. I guarantee my gun loving a$$ will come out on top everytime.
Saul Good
May 27th, 2010
2:01 pm
Willie; So nice for you to admit that you’re an “American” first before you consider yourself a “human”….to be honest…that explains SO much about the Talibangelical Right… YOU believe that you are a BETTER human compared to all of those “unlucky” humans who happened to be born on other parts of the planet.
Do you even have a CLUE as to how pathetic and sad that is? Do you? Good thing you were not born in France…or say ummm…Syria… I guess you’d “hate” yourself and most of all…your parents for having lived there when they gave birth to you.
THAT kind of thinking is the problem…the BIGGEST problem that faces mankind and has since YOUR “god” created” all of us. Gee…I’m wondering why YOUR “god” created Muslims…and Hindus, and Buddhists, and all of the other world’s cults… why would have done such a cruel cruel thing to you “chosen” few who happen to be: White, Christian, and best of all BORN in the good ol’ USA.
One of you Evilgelicals should tell Arnold over there in CA… I think he believes he’s one of you!
Saul Good
May 27th, 2010
2:04 pm
JKL2…thanks for your threat of violence. It’s been noted.
Sad you’re SO afraid of the world at large that you even would say such a thing. Really? You’re now going to KILL those of us who don’t subscribe to YOUR views and faulty logic values?!
williebkind
May 27th, 2010
2:04 pm
JKL2
May 27th, 2010
2:01 pm
I load for you my eyes aint so good no more.
williebkind
May 27th, 2010
2:05 pm
Saul Good
May 27th, 2010
2:04 pm
Yeah but you allow those who blow everybody up a free ticket to America.
JKL2
May 27th, 2010
2:13 pm
Saul- You believe as an “American” that you’re better compared to those from other nations?
Until the day I die. Not that there are not good people in other countries, we’re just better. That’s probably why we are being overrun by illegal aliens. China is a bigger power than we are, but I don’t see them having an immigration problem.
Some people are naturally superior. Doesn’t make them evil. Just means they have more ability. No need to apologize, just a fact of life.
America is great because America is good. Following the Obama plan to drag us down in the world won’t help anyone in the long run.
In the new world order, if you make $30k/yr, you are in the top 7% worldwide. Get ready to start paying your fair share you evil rich capitalist.
Saul Good
May 27th, 2010
2:18 pm
JKL2.. “we’re just better”…because we were BORN here as humans as opposed to being born someplace else as humans… WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I give up with you… I don’t even recommend medication. I actually recommend that you be kept away from the public at large. You are truly truly one to be watch…and I hope you’re one some list of individuals being watched. I mean that.
Saul Good
May 27th, 2010
2:19 pm
Sorry for my grammar and misspellings… JKL2 has melted my mind today because of his own domestic terrorist beliefs.
JKL2
May 27th, 2010
2:23 pm
Bumpersticker sighted over the weekend that is even more relevant today.
“YOUR WALLET. The only place Democrats want to drill.”
Al
May 27th, 2010
2:27 pm
What does Rebublican political posturing have ANYTHING to do with a pattern of Chicago political corruption that has come to DC with Obama’s election? Your memory is obvoiusly shorter than most Americans whom follow politics – Blagojevich? One scandal should have been shot across the bow enough for the Obama team to ensure they act with the “spirit of the law”. They didn’t.
JKL2
May 27th, 2010
2:27 pm
Saul-
I’ll bet my security clearance alot higher than anything you could ever obtain. But if Obama can put people on his staff (Van Jones) that would not have been allowed to enter the white house in previous years, then anything could be possible.
BMDPD
May 27th, 2010
2:31 pm
JKL2, we are better because of the Christian principles our nation was founded upon. We are given the freedom to be better. But don’t worry, with people like Saul and Obama, we won’t be better much longer.
Obama is a LIAR and a FRAUD
May 27th, 2010
2:35 pm
Typical LIB mentality… what dirty LIARS.
Impeach his sorry ass.
Obama is a LIAR and a FRAUD
May 27th, 2010
2:36 pm
Oduma’s CORRUPT administration is a freakin’ joke.
Impeach his sorry ass.
md
May 27th, 2010
2:40 pm
Saul,
You sound like a very passionate guy/gal, yet you spend your time here being unproductive like the rest of us. Ever thought of channeling that energy into something like the Peace Corp?? They really do need people with your energy and passion – just a thought.
Marie
May 27th, 2010
2:49 pm
Gee Jay its funny how you have left out the names of Democrat representatives/senators such as Anthony Weiner and Dick Durbin who have called for the WH to come clean on what happened with Sustak. And if this is much ado about nothing then why doesn’t the WH just let the public know exactly who said what to Sustak, when it was said, and why it was said.
Also saying an offense is IMPEACHABLE does not mean members of the GOP plan to indict or seek impeachment agains the President. Rep. Issa of CA said that on yesterday during a Fox News interview — basically saying that no one is talking impeachment, we are a long way from that. However, if this did occur Issa went on to say then the WH should come clean and would probably receive no more than a reprimand by Congress. I don’t think there is anyone who seriously believes that such a transaction will lead to the impeachment of the President.
I for one would like to see him come clean on this and on the whole New Black Panter intimidation prosecution which was stopped in mid-track by this administration.
Dave R.
May 27th, 2010
3:20 pm
And as usual, Jay misdirects into other areas in order to avoid the main topic.
Either someone in the White House is lying, or a current congressman and candidate for U.S. Senate is lying.
There is NO middle ground on this.
Sestek has painted himself and/or the White House into a corner. And the very fact that Hope & Change couldn’t answer the direct question to him today means that he is setting up someone to be the fall guy – he just hasn’t decided who (or how high up) it will be yet.
Liberal Pariah
May 27th, 2010
3:51 pm
This Hope and Change thing has worked so well….Little did we know that Obama’s transparency in government meant his Chicago politics as usual would be out in the open. It doesn’t bother me that this has happened as has been part of politics forever, but the AUDACITY to pretend that you would be different. And you wingnuts fell for it
Karl
May 27th, 2010
4:03 pm
You are the rube, bookman. When it all hits the fan, you will not be able to leave Atlanta soon enough. This nation has been so polarized and fractured by this regime that it will take many yeas to repair. I hate it for my Grandchildren & others.
Martin Williams
May 27th, 2010
5:04 pm
what’s new….this is why they, GOP lost the bid for the white house because they want John McCain to be the GOP representative and not Mitt. Both parties do that sh….. all the time and now they once again open there bit mouths and talk about impeachment. The GOP thinks we are from the stupid So…….
John Birch
May 27th, 2010
5:10 pm
Saul – We are not held in higher regard by the world, only by our enemies in Venezuela and North Korea and Mexico who correctly preceive that O is weak. Try a public opinion poll in longtime friend Israel and see how O comes out. Most of the world regards us with some combination of fear, envy, and hatred. Unlike your childlike utopian vision it’s getting ever more dog eat dog out there as 7 billion people compete for ever scarcer energy, food, and water. It’s a very nice vision you have, but unfortunately it is very unrealistic and dangerous. Everyone’s lot in life is not determined solely by the accident of their birth, but also what they do with the life they are given. Some of us still believe in preserving what we were given at birth for our children and their children, rather than giving it away to the less fortunate Kenyans and Mexican illegal aliens.
Obama is a LIAR and a FRAUD
May 27th, 2010
5:11 pm
Impeach the lying bastard.
Nadorn
May 27th, 2010
5:23 pm
The only way this’d ever happen is to get the left onboard. And with the left so linked to Obama, either through outright worship or living vicariously through him much like Conservatives were with Bush, this is about as likely as the Pope denouncing Jesus and declaring war on China.
Samantha
May 27th, 2010
5:27 pm
Illegal activity????
No way. Not for Obama or for Rham.
No amount of criminal activity would qualify for impeachment if little Jay is to be our guide. Exactly what woudl be required? The only way that Obama or Rham could ever be guillty is if they became republicans.
So much for the rule of law.
The democrats embraced a thugocracy when they got in bed with the SEIU.
professional skeptic
May 27th, 2010
5:48 pm
Much ado about nothing. He most likely didn’t take the job offer because he knew Sen. Shelby or some other Republican obstructionist would have blocked his confirmation hearing via “secret hold” for no reason at all. You know, just because.
Running for Democratic nomination probably seemed the surer thing.
Saul Good
May 27th, 2010
6:19 pm
John Birch… thanks for confirming that you’re a “birther” and that you also frown upon those born in Mexico… at least your honest with your hate for those you believe you’re better then.
David
May 27th, 2010
9:35 pm
People should take the initiative to read the laws that are being cited before rushing to judgment.
One of the most commonly cited laws, 18 USC 600, refers to offering jobs made possible by an act of congress. Note that the President offering a job in his administration has nothing to do with an act of congress.
18 USC 595 applies to individuals in “administrative” positions. It seems unclear to me whether the office of the President would qualify. The text of the law is fairly complex and you can judge for yourself if you look it up.
18 USC 211 says that an official can’t solicit “money or a thing of value.” This is in contrast to the laws above that specifically mention employment or use the much broader term of “consideration”
Basically, my point is that this is actually pretty complicated stuff and, like them or not, it is a matter to be settled by lawyers. The news media glosses over the details that I mentioned for this very reason. They don’t understand it, their audience doesn’t understand it, and to be honest, everyone loves a good scandal.
Bookman is a joker
May 28th, 2010
12:42 am
Bookman, you are nothing more than a cynical liberal pundit that would wipe Obama’s a$$ if he asked you to do so.
UNaffiliated Voter
May 28th, 2010
6:43 am
PRAY for IMPEACHMENT …or worse.
Jay
May 28th, 2010
7:22 am
I see the freepers have arrived…
gcs
May 29th, 2010
12:04 am
“Fantasies”?
Do you know why the AJC is losing subscribers? Because liberal idiots like you keep writing crap like this. The AJC needs to learn who their readers are.
Good luck with that job interview at Walmart.
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Saul Good
May 29th, 2010
10:43 am
Was thinking about this as I woke up today… WHAT about Dick Cheney and his “secret meeting” with the energy company executives? No secret that he HAD the meeting…but he used the term: “EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE” and denied ever giving any information about what discussions took place.
This ALSO coming from an administration that was going to “clean up the WH” after the lynch mob that took place because of Clinton/Lewinski….
Did ANY of you republicans (also now known as the Tea Party and Libertarians in the post Bush world) ever condemn the fact that Cheney would never release what took place during THOSE talks. If ya did…please post what you have from back then to show you did. To be honest…that was WAY more of an “Impeachable” action that took place if you ask me. One day the records will be released…and we’ll see how they followed the “path” that lead us to Iraq…straight from the Play Book of the Neo-Cons: “New American Century”… Iraq was discussed there… the need to take over Iraq’s oil production and overthrow Saddam to do so. But I see nobody from the right “condemning” that “secret” meeting..which actually took place in Tax Payer Funded Government Offices….
Saul Good
May 29th, 2010
11:59 am
Judd Gregg…. I see NOBODY here on the right bringing up the position that Obama offered Judd Gregg? Was HE too up for an election? Was THAT an “Impeachable” offense as well??? NAH…. Where’s all the positions that Bush “offered” as well to those who were thinking about running? If anyone needs a list… I’ll gladly past it.
Saul Good
May 29th, 2010
12:44 pm
Errr…. Post it!