Joe Sestak lets loose GOP impeachment fantasies
U.S. Rep. Joe Sestak, the underdog who beat Arlen Specter in Pennsylvania’s Democratic Senate primary, says he turned down a nice job offer by the Obama administration that would have kept him from challenging Specter.
That news has Washington Republicans all up in arms, outraged at such blatantly criminal and unethical behavior at the highest levels of American government.
Well. Kinda sorta. They are at least going through the motions of pretending to believe it’s an outrage, including calling for appointment of a special prosecutor and uttering that magic word they do love so well: “Impeachable.”
It just sounds so juicy and full of promise, doesn’t it? “Impeachable.” Certain mouths begin to water at the prospect.
But it’s laughable, and Republicans in Washington know it. You can see it in their body language and hear it in their voices, even as they profess to be appalled. These are people who can look the camera in the eye and tell you with a straight face that the sun will rise in the West tomorrow, but even they can’t work up much feigned anger at this.
Nor can the experts. Listen to Melanie Sloan, the head of CREW (Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics):
“There has never been a prosecution based on such facts and I find it impossible to believe there would be. I think this is really just politics as usual. Parties routinely do what they can to clear the field for preferred candidates.”
Listen to Richard Painter, chief ethics officer under the last President Bush, who says this “is nothing new and it hardly rises to the level of a major ethics controversy”:
Congress gives us plenty of genuine ethics concerns to worry about – particularly the role of campaign contributions which are de facto “bribes” (watch carefully what happens to the banking reform bill when it goes to House-Senate conference). Voters should not be distracted by media generated sideshows having little to do with what goes on in Washington.
Listen to Peter Zeidenberg, a former federal prosecutor with the Justice Department’s Public Integrity unit:
“Talk about criminalizing the political process! It would be horrible precedent if what really truly is political horsetrading were viewed in the criminal context of: is this a corrupt bribe?”
On the other side, of course, are such legal giants as Dick Morris, Sean Hannity and Karl Rove (who I see described on one conservative blog as “Carl Rove, who was George Bush’s legal adviser…).
If the White House had offered Sestak a job so that he would vote a certain way on a bill, or to buy his silence about an illegal or unethical act, this would have legs. But it’s nothing like that, and Washington Republicans know it. They also know that every administration since George Washington has tried to arrange the political landscape to its liking in exactly this manner. You’ve got a lot of people with ambition and talent jostling in Washington for position, and the folks at the top, at the White House, have always tried to stage-manage the process to protect their best interests. The same is true of every governor’s office in the country and in many a mayoral office as well.
What you’re seeing is the national GOP playacting — and playacting pretty poorly, with no heart in the performance — just to get the folks back home stirred up and full of hope.
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Morrus
May 27th, 2010
9:57 am
Curiously, in a supposed anti-incumbent year, most of the departing are not retiring but seeking higher office. We may recycle more than we replace. The bad news is that a frustrating 114 seats still have but one contestant. Two of them aren’t even incumbents, meaning they will affect state policy without being vetted by voters. And I have to think that we’d be better off if many had run instead for the Legislature — and cut down on the number running unopposed. Georgia’s problems are numerous. They aren’t going away. There’s too much stale thinking at the Capitol, on both sides of the aisle. New voices would be welcome.
JKL2
May 27th, 2010
9:57 am
stands- scary looking colored guys were photographed outside of a polling place. Caught in the act of looking scary.
Voter intimidation doesn’t bother you? Your boy Jimmy Carter is looking to slap you across the mouth.
@@
May 27th, 2010
9:58 am
Ooohhhhh, I see how this plays out now….it’s only AFTER the “FACT(S)” or lack thereof, that the status quo becomes justifiable/acceptable to dems?
“This isn’t “change”; it’s sanctification of the status quo.”–Barack Obama
Got it!
I will say this…if the administration is reluctant to come forth with the details, it’s because they know THE PEOPLE would not approve. Quid pro quo? Status quo? No difference! Some of us, at least, have grown a bit tired of it.
Obviously not you, jay. Both are NOW acceptable.
I do luv, Joe, though. He never changes.
Thanks to the $787 billion stimulus package, Biden said he and Melody Barnes, White House Domestic Policy Council director, have talked at length about ways to “generate new ideas about how to deal with future employment needs,” Biden said. “We have new ideas about how to spend government money wisely.”
First off, it’s not government’s money. Second? Politicians require $787 billion before they can come up with new ideas??? Do tell.
That’s a helluva a raise to support the status quo.
RAMBLE ON!!!
May 27th, 2010
9:58 am
I think it is wrong for impeachment speculation while Obama is on vacation. It’s been almost a month since his last one. Hopefully, he’ll be able to get a round of golf in.
Give the man some peace, please. He’s been so busy…saving Nashville, TN from the floods, saving S. Korea from N. Korea, plugging that darn hole in the gulf. I mean deadgum, he’s going down for the 2nd time in 6 weeks tomorrow.
All of this on the heels of saving our economy from 8% unemployment and solving the borders immigration problems.
Chicago politics keeps a man busy.
ALL HAIL KING OBAMA!!!
Scout
May 27th, 2010
9:59 am
“OFF TOPIC #1)
To my Conservative friends out there …….. research project:
“Supposedly (repeat supposedly) the West Point graduation ceremony last week was opened to the general public for the first time in 100 years. Obviously, is this is true it was because the Obama staff wanted to saturate the audience with people who would provide some “enthusiastic” as opposed to “tepid” applause during his remarks.
If any of you can help me verify that one way or the other I would most appreciate it.
In addition, I have the entire tape of the graduation event and by the weekend hope to review every cadet (1,010) who received a diploma to determine if “any” did not shake the president’s hand. That part takes about an hour.
Stay tuned.
The Thin Guy
May 27th, 2010
9:59 am
Øbungle can’t be impeached because he’s not POTUS. He is an illegal alien illegally occupying the CEO. He should be arrested, drug from The White House in chains, charged with illegally entering the country, embezzlement of public funds, perjury, suborning perjury, misprision of a felony, and marrying a transvestite. After serving a length prison sentence he should be deported as an undesirable and illegal alien. This would be justice but it won’t happen because we are a nation of sheep. Have a nice day.
Del
May 27th, 2010
9:59 am
Just goes to show the intrinsic stupidity of the democrats. This isn’t about impeaching Obama, although who knows what might happen down the road with this fool in the office, it’s about defeating Joe Sestak. Sestak has been given a “poker call” even by members of his own party. He’s looking like an idiot for making accusations and then not having what it takes to back up his words.
Dave R.
May 27th, 2010
9:59 am
“If the White House had offered Sestak a job so that he would vote a certain way on a bill, . . . this would have legs”
Yet, you completely and totally dismissed the issue of the Colorado congressman’s brother being nominated for a judgeship he was clearly not qualified for in exchange for that congressman’s vote on health care reform, Jay.
Don’t you just hate it when you aren’t consistent?
I was wrong in thinking it would take a while for you to comment on this issue, but am surprised you actually try to rationalize it away. Especially your “Axelrod says there was nothing to this” defense which then leads to the conclusion that SOMEONE is lying. So you either have an illegal act perpetrated by the White House and they are lying about it, or you have a sitting congressman and candidate for Senate who is lying.
And it is just another “Ignore that man behind the curtain” day in Bookman-land.
stands for decibels
May 27th, 2010
10:01 am
Thanks. Really?
I really wish I were making that up, Bosch. Really I do.
Bubba
May 27th, 2010
10:02 am
There is nothing I’d like better than to see Obama out of office. But the thought of impeaching the first black president on anything other than blantantly criminal behavior is not a prospect I would relish. More than anything, what this episode proves, if true, is that Obama is nothing but a rank politician and all the talk of “transparency,” “hope” and “change you can believe in” is just so much hooey. But is anyone really shocked by that?
TaxPayer
May 27th, 2010
10:02 am
Taxpayer you too are an idiot…”in the south” duh… South Boston. Short memory?
Big D,
I sense a resemblence between you and my message.
Scout
May 27th, 2010
10:02 am
Rightwing Troll :
Remember, he got off the hook once already when Bush had that Illinois “quid pro quo” case shut down early before the president-elect got himself on a wire for an indictable/impeachable offense.
He got lucky on that one …………. we’ll see about this one. They are slick and hard to catch !
Got to run for awhile.
Back later.
Rafe Hollister
May 27th, 2010
10:03 am
Zedd: you are spot on with the legal citations, however the bigger question is who in this country determines what illegal things are “really important”. I am constantly amazed that there is someone obviously out there, who determines what illegalities are serious enough to be bothered with. We know illegal immigration has been determined to be ok, bribes given to congressman and Senators are not “really illegal”, illegal campaign contributions given by some groups are “ok”, whereas from other groups are serious violations. If we are not going to enforce these laws or repeal them, can we vote on who decides which one gets enforced.
jt
May 27th, 2010
10:04 am
Sad, tragic, but true——————————A real disappointment. On Topic———————-
From Don Emmerich–
“Had McCain-Palin won the election, we’d still have a viable antiwar movement, not just Cindy Sheehan and her ragtag gang.[5] We’d still have millions of Americans decrying the wars in the Middle East and the nation’s abandonment of the rule of law. But Obama has managed to silence all but a handful of these critics. The moment he gave his victory speech in Grant Park, those who’d spent the previous eight years protesting the policies of the Bush-Cheney regime decided that the fight was over. They suddenly became apologists for executive power and in no time at all could be found defending their man’s broken campaign promises.
So I hope we’ve all learned our lesson. Some of you, I’m happy to see, have concluded that they’re all a bunch of crooks and have completely abandoned faith in the American political system. Others continue hoping—in my opinion, hoping against hope. Well, fine, that’s your right.”
Never settle for evil. Lessor or otherwise.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
May 27th, 2010
10:04 am
Well, use to be bribes was pretty simple. A guy offered you a pint of booze if you voted for a guy. So you went in an voted and picked up your pint on the way out. Then they kilt that off by making the liquor stores close on election day. So not only can’t you have a stiff gulp on Sunday after a boring sermon but you can’t have one on election day when you find out who’s going to be sticking it to you for the next two years.
And now the bribes got all fancy and you can’t hardly tell what’s a bribe and what’s not. Let’s just get back to booze as a bribe. It’ll never do you wrong. And you can even take a picture of it as proof.
Rational Person
May 27th, 2010
10:05 am
Jay
May 27th, 2010
8:55 am
For the record, I actually thought the last Bush administration was pretty ethical.
————–
How about lying his hiney off to take us to war, thereby killing 100,000 harmless Iraqis?
Rightwing Troll
May 27th, 2010
10:05 am
I got standards, too bad squish liberals like yourself don’t meet those standards. Hey look either you’re with us or agin’ us… What’s it gonna be bedwetter? I wouldn’t expect a libtard like yourself to understand…
The above just being an example of the discourse here on a daily basis from the “conservative” trolls who shake thier fists at everything contemporary. I am just doing what others have done unto me here. It’s in the bible right, do unto others? Well by that standard this is what they wish done to them correct?
In other words you don’t know squat about me MT, so please don’t presume to pass judgement about me and my standards. I’ve stated quite often here, those who feel compelled to make a point of thier moral compass and higher standards usually have neither…
@@
May 27th, 2010
10:06 am
Del:
it’s about defeating Joe Sestak.
I agree with you regarding Sestak. I’m seeing it as a Mexican standoff between Sestak and the administration.
NorthDeKalbVoter
May 27th, 2010
10:07 am
Obama won’t be impeached, he’ll be voted out of office as a one-termer the old fashioned way. Currently holding a forty-five per cent approval rating and falling. The economy, job losses…now the oil disaster; bet he wishes he was still the rock star running for President. It sucks when you have to work.
Bosch
May 27th, 2010
10:07 am
sfd,
“I really wish I were making that up, Bosch. Really I do.”
Me too. My prejudice for dumbasses just spiked.
Jon but not Jon Voight
May 27th, 2010
10:07 am
I have been wondering how long it would take the repubs to start something like this. And if they ever reach a majority, you can bet this will become a reality. Repubs are obsessed with power, and that’s it. If they can’t win the votes, they’ll try anything to regain all the power there’s left to get. Just ask Bob Barr. He knows the truth since he is one of them.
Rightwing Troll
May 27th, 2010
10:07 am
I got standards, too bad squish liberals like yourself don’t meet those standards. Hey look either you’re with us or agin’ us… What’s it gonna be bedwetter? I wouldn’t expect a lib–tard like yourself to understand…
The above just being an example of the discourse here on a daily basis from the “conservative” trolls who shake thier fists at everything contemporary. I am just doing what others have done unto me here. It’s in the bible right, do unto others? Well by that standard this is what they wish done to them correct?
In other words you don’t know squat about me MT, so please don’t presume to pass judgement about me and my standards. I’ve stated quite often here, those who feel compelled to make a point of thier moral compass and higher standards usually have neither…
Jay
May 27th, 2010
10:07 am
Well, Rational, that’s one of major reasons I think he’ll go down as perhaps the worst president in our history.
But I never thought of him as personally corrupt, and still don’t.
Mick
May 27th, 2010
10:08 am
Scout
off topic response
Still obsessing over a commencement address? What happened when your hero bush threw out the first pitch at the nationals home opener in 2008? Lots of booing and disrespect hurled toward mr. bush who zinged in a high fastball and got off that mound pronto. He has a good throwing arm though.
TaxPayer
May 27th, 2010
10:09 am
Obama will travel to Louisiana and walk out on the water and proclaim, “Leak! Heal thyself!” and the leak shall be healed and all Republicans will know the power of the one to be known as the healer. Let it be so. Let it be said. Let it be printed on sticker for later insertion into Texas Text.
Rightwing Troll
May 27th, 2010
10:10 am
I see a certain word bandied about here has been banned so I will stop using a certain word that I have been using lately, teatard (just replace tea with lib to see the banned word), in the interest of fairness.
Bob
May 27th, 2010
10:10 am
No, he won’t be impeached. Even if something happened that was impeachable the GOP hasn’t gut the guts to pursue it, but most importantly, if anything happens to this president, the entire country would be burned to the ground by rioting African-Americans.
Del
May 27th, 2010
10:10 am
Scout,
I googled “Obama at the West Point commencement ceremony” and found a video of him giving his speech. The applause was tepid and panning out to the cadets it showed many not even clapping. Yesterday or today the top uniformed officers in the military wrote letters disagreeing with congress for plans to prematurely vote on repealing DADT. Conway and Casey were very vocal. Obama and the far left democrats don’t have many friends in the military.
I'm here from the government and I'm here to help
May 27th, 2010
10:11 am
Oil Spill, what oil spill asked Obama?
Could this be Mr. Obama’s Katrina? It could be even worse. The federal response to Katrina was governed by the 1988 Stafford Act, which says that in natural disasters on-shore states are in charge, not Washington. The federal obligation is to “support . . . State and local assistance efforts” by providing whatever resources a governor requests and then writing big checks for the cleanup. Mr. Bush had to deal with a Louisiana governor and a New Orleans mayor who were, by federal law, in charge.
But BP’s well was drilled in federal waters. Washington, not Louisiana, is in charge. This is Mr. Obama’s responsibility. He says his administration has been prepared for the worst from the start. Mr. Obama’s failure to lead in cleaning up the spill could lead voters to echo his complaint in Katrina’s aftermath: “I wish that the federal government had been up to the task.”
Rightwing Troll
May 27th, 2010
10:12 am
I remember Scout. We had a pleasant and enjoyable exchange on that topic. I look forward to more such encounters.
Bosch
May 27th, 2010
10:12 am
“the entire country would be burned to the ground by rioting African-Americans.”
Oh my freaking God.
Saul Good
May 27th, 2010
10:15 am
Del: “Obama and the far left democrats don’t have many friends in the military.”
Yeah…because Bush and the right were SO good to them!
Junior Samples
May 27th, 2010
10:15 am
We need to get rid of all of the sludge that resides in Washington. We can start with the mid-term elections this year and finish it up 2 years later. Big Chicago politics at it’s best….corruption through and through.
md
May 27th, 2010
10:17 am
Here Bosch – watch the video and others associated with it, and make up your own mind vs listening to posters on this site.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGbKHyGuHU&feature=related
And bear in mind that these fellows were removed by the police and that there was no official security hired at this site.
DawgDad
May 27th, 2010
10:19 am
Hope and Change – NOT!
BMDPD
May 27th, 2010
10:20 am
Will never happen government help dude! He will get questions like. How is the dog? How are the girls adjusting to the white house? Has Michelle harvested anything from the garden yet?
Jay
May 27th, 2010
10:22 am
First of all, Dave R., the congressman in question is from Utah, not Colorado.
Second, the nominee you claim is clearly unqualified is Scott Matheson, former U.S. attorney, law degree from Yale, former Rhodes scholar, former dean of the University of Utah law school. Orrin Hatch has agreed to help shepherd his nomination through the Senate,that’s how unqualified he is and how partisan this nomination is.
“It should be crystal clear that Scott Matheson is eminently qualified, and I applaud the president for appointing him,” Republican Rep. Jason Chaffetz of Utah told the Salt Lake Tribune. “The timing, I can see why it raises eyebrows. [But] I find it hard to believe. I see no evidence” of vote buying.
And if you want to go the “but Matheson never served as a judge” route, neither had John Roberts, Antony Scalia or Clarence Thomas when appointed to the appellate court.
Third, Rep. Jim Matheson voted AGAINST the health-care reform bill, and his brother’s nomination remains in effect.
Other than those points, you’re absolutely correct.
FinnMcCool
May 27th, 2010
10:23 am
Is Ken Starr available?
I know the conservatives would LOVE to throw another hundred million to the lawyers chasing pipe dreams.
“We be the fiscally conservative pahty.”
I'm here from the government and I'm here to help
May 27th, 2010
10:28 am
FinnMcCool,
Do the math? A hundred million to save TRILLIONS! And Obama is still writing checks!
Kamchak
May 27th, 2010
10:31 am
Half the time, I would swear democrats are worse.
Would that be the period in which your stomach dis-honestly hurts?
Dave R.
May 27th, 2010
10:31 am
“Third, Rep. Jim Matheson voted AGAINST the health-care reform bill, and his brother’s nomination remains in effect.”
Cover vote, Jay. He was allowed to vote against because San Fran Nan already had her votes after they paid off the Stupak bunch. If she hadn’t without him, he would have been pushing the “yes” button.
You do know how Washington works, don’t you?
And nice try using the “but there’s a Republican for this” argument, as usual. In that, you really are consistent when you cherry-pick one out of a hundred to try to make an invalid point valid.
Pennsylvanian
May 27th, 2010
10:33 am
Bosch? Bosch – you ok? Try to concentrate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGbKHyGuHU&feature=related
You ok with AG Holder dropping the prosecution?
Byron Mathison Kerr
May 27th, 2010
10:34 am
There is politics going on in Washington. Shock.
BMDPD
May 27th, 2010
10:36 am
Bosch, and riots didn’t happen in LA over racial issues? If he were impeached, it would definitely be spun as racist. And yes, there would be riots.
RAMBLE ON!!!
May 27th, 2010
10:38 am
He said CAP IT!!!
BMDPD
May 27th, 2010
10:38 am
Regardless, impeachment talk is crazy. I won’t and shouldn’t happen.
RAMBLE ON!!!
May 27th, 2010
10:39 am
and it was done.
ALL HAIL KING OBAMA!!!
Normal
May 27th, 2010
10:42 am
Ah, there are none so blind as those who will not see…
Obsessing
May 27th, 2010
10:43 am
Scout: In addition, I have the entire tape of the graduation event and by the weekend hope to review every cadet (1,010) who received a diploma to determine if “any” did not shake the president’s hand.
This is the post of someone with way to much time on their hands and is rather sad and pathetic. Does anyone care about this besides a few whack-a-doodle right wingers who hate Obama with a passion bordering on the insane?
Dave R.
May 27th, 2010
10:50 am
And don’t get me started on Sen Orrin Hatch, either. Completely off topic, but:
A number of years ago I was flying Delta from Atlanta to Washington, D.C. Our flight was seriously delayed in boarding and the counter agent was having a difficult time in calming down a man who was giving her grief about the delay. As I listened in, I heard this person say, “The Senator has to get to Washington for some very important votes”, and used the dreaded words “Don’t you know who Senator Hatch is?”.
As I have a deep appreciation for those who try to get us from point A to point B, and a deep loathing for self-important politicians and their entourages, I politely interrupted the discourse and asked the Delta employee why we were delayed for so long. She informed me that the main cabin door was showing not being sealed correctly, and that maintenance was checking it out.
I turned to Hatch’s aide and told him, “I don’t know about you, but the reason I fly Delta is NOT for cabin depressurization at 30,000 ft, so just go back to your Senator and tell him to cool his heels like the rest of us and leave this lady alone”.
Needless to say, there was no further hassle from the Senator and his aide.
John Wayne
May 27th, 2010
10:53 am
Dave R. – Needless to say, there was no further hassle from the Senator and his aide.
Wow! You put that Congressional aide in their place. You are so cool and macho.
saywhat?
May 27th, 2010
10:56 am
Great argument there, Dave R. Jay just completely destroyed every last shred of your initial assertion with little things some of us call “facts”. And your rebuttal? “It WOULD have happened the way I said it did if it hadn’t happened the way it ACTUALLY did”. You seem to think that being proven dead wrong only bolsters your argument. WTF?
AmVet
May 27th, 2010
10:57 am
Good morning everyone.
Impeachment???
Thanks for letting me start out the blogging day with a helluva laugh, Jay!
Last night one of the more courageous Barry haters here called Sestak a “candyass”.
Riiight! A three star admiral who commanded an entire battle group of tens of thousands of men and god knows how much weaponry.
Funny, coming for the crowd who never uttered a sheepish baaah when their REAL hero of the Texas ANG demonstrated to the republic that he was the most serially impeachable POTUS in American history.
Imagine that? Blind GOP obeisance from their parallel reality.
Algonquin j. Calhoun
May 27th, 2010
10:58 am
Where was their outrage when George W. Dunderhead falsified evidence against Iraq to justify the brutish attack upon and occupation of that country? Where was the outrage over the last the last administration’s attack upon individual rights and their evisceration of the Constitution? They’re trying, just as they did with Clinton, to undo the will of the American people. Didn’t work then! Won’t work now! Bring Bush to trial for his many crimes against humanity!
Bob
May 27th, 2010
11:01 am
Algonquin j. Calhoun:
If GOP wins control of the House in November, will the ‘will of the people’ have changed, in your view?
BMDPD
May 27th, 2010
11:02 am
Algonquin j. Calhoun, you my friend are a dummy. The Dems would be doing the exact same thing. Pot/Kettle. Quit posting and get back to work!
Dave R.
May 27th, 2010
11:03 am
saywhat, you obviously don’t know a thing about how Washington, D.C. works.
Or doesn’t.
BMDPD
May 27th, 2010
11:04 am
Algonquin j. Calhoun, the will of the people. Oh yes, sort of like immigration and healthcare reform. As I said earlier. Quit posting and get back to work. Oh wait isn’t today the day you get your government check or is that tomorrow.
williebkind
May 27th, 2010
11:04 am
As each day passes I realize more and more what a great president Bush was.
Dawgfan
May 27th, 2010
11:10 am
It’s funny to see liberals fall all over themselve to bow at the feet of Obama the infallible.
Hillbilly Deluxe
May 27th, 2010
11:11 am
When you mislead voters about how you’ll do something bad, in order to actually do something good, is that really all that unethical?
In my view, it is. If a man (or woman) will lie to you about one thing, they’ll lie to you about anything. The number one thing I look for in a President is that they can be trusted. I’d rather have somebody honest that I disagree with than somebody I agree with that is dishonest. Although it varies a bit from one to another, I haven’t really trusted any of them in my lifetime.
saywhat?
May 27th, 2010
11:13 am
On topic; Can anybody explain to me how Congressman Sestac could have committed himself to a new Obama administration position, and yet STILL run for the Senate? Wouldn’t accepting what, one would assume, would be a long term assignment, AUTOMATICALLY preclude any other job activity, regardless of intent of the administration in making the offer? One can be cynicalDoes this mean that every sitting Congressman or Senator who is offered a cabinet position is being “bribed” to leave Congress?
John Wayne
May 27th, 2010
11:14 am
williebkind – As each day passes I realize more and more what a great president Bush was.
Alzheimer’s is a terrible disease. Someday there will be treatment and cure. Until then, I’m sorry for your delusions.
John Birch
May 27th, 2010
11:16 am
Thing is the ultralibs didn’t want to impeach Bush. They want to haul him in front of some kind of war crimes tribunal (think Nuremburg comes to Atlantic City), convict him and then presumably behead him like Hussein.
JKL2
May 27th, 2010
11:27 am
mick- He has a good throwing arm though.
Unlike the scholar/athlete we have in the WH now who throws weaker than my 8yr old daughter and is stump by hard hitting questions like “name a White Sox player–past or present–that you respected and looked up to.”
7 “umms” later he deflected then mispronounced the name of the stadium his favorite team plays in.
john
May 27th, 2010
11:27 am
Ask the White House for clarity? Really? Why not ask Sestack to explain since he started this. Who implies something like that but just doesn’t finish it and tell it all.
Sestack is weak and he knows it and is going to lose to the Republican party nominee there. Remember this clown was a Clinton boob and always will be.
The problem with Obama is that he keeps trying to extend his hand and be nice. Bush had far less power and support and still got EVERYTHING he wanted done. Obama needs to say the hell with it and do what he wants. He got health care and financial reform through without repubs. Well, screw them and keep going. They aren’t going to support anything he does out of principle, anger, and hatred that flows from them especially when they are out of power.
And don’t forget about the turncoats like Sestack, Liberman, and Blanche Lincoln and don’t support them.
Problem solved
Saul Good
May 27th, 2010
11:30 am
AMVet said:
“Funny, coming for the crowd who never uttered a sheepish baaah when their REAL hero of the Texas ANG demonstrated to the republic that he was the most serially impeachable POTUS in American history.”
I SECOND that! Great post!
JKL2
May 27th, 2010
11:32 am
Saul – Yeah…because Bush and the right were SO good to them!
I would say yes he was, but that wouldn’t give him credit for continued support of the military since he left office.
It’s so much nicer working for a man who deplores your very existance.
itpdude
May 27th, 2010
11:33 am
Jay, the Bush Admin was ethical? Wha? I don’t know about everything else, but the Iraq War thing seems to be one big ole lie. Powell believed much of it was BS, Col. Wilkerson was amazed anyone bought the UN speech Powell gave, Cheney said there were WMD’s in Iraq, the whisper campaign that Iraqi agents met al Quada, the illegal immigration blindness for the benefit of agri-biz donors, etc, etc, etc. I simply don’t see the W Admin as ethical.
JKL2
May 27th, 2010
11:35 am
AmVet- Funny, coming for the crowd who never uttered a sheepish baaah when their REAL hero of the Texas ANG demonstrated to the republic that he was the most serially impeachable POTUS in American history
And how many times was he impeached? I’d think Nixon would have something to say on the subject.
Scout
May 27th, 2010
11:39 am
Del:
We both know that. I’m just trying to enlighten these liberal knuckleheads.
Mick:
I was at a similar event where V.P. Gore and his young son came out to the mound for Gore to throw the first pitch. He was booed unmercifully. I was embarrassed for the kid.
Rightwing Troll:
Seriously, on this “Senategate” thing I don’t think it has any legs. My only point was that if a Republican was in the White House, the MSM would be running with this for all it was worth. That’s the hypocrisy !
JB
May 27th, 2010
11:40 am
Your right……why would we expect democrats ( or most politicians) to obey and be held accountable to law at this point. If Obama DID break the law, how many of you that would support him would want him held accountable and dealt with…..How many would just laugh it off………..Sad that this guy was an Admiral ( Sestack) in our Navy and has lived by a code of honor his entire life. It will be interesting to see how many flea’s he has after laying with dogs?
saywhat?
May 27th, 2010
11:43 am
Dave R., What I do or don’t know about how Washington works, has absolutely nothing to do with how frickin’ wrong you were, and how completely Jay owned you while proving it. But, if it helps you sleep better at night, keep thinking what you’re thinking…..
Saul Good
May 27th, 2010
11:43 am
JKL2… okay…show me ONE thing in “writing” where Obama has ever stated that he “deplores” the existence of our men and women in uniform. I mean… he was never a member of the military, but he was certainly NO Dick Cheney or Bush for that matter.
Sad that you can not see how by sending our troops into battle in Iraq… to be killed, or permanently injured for life…that you do NOT see how that act was an “abuse” of them.
stands for decibels
May 27th, 2010
11:49 am
HD, if you’re still around, I appreciate your answer to my ethical question.
The conundrum is, if you expect pols to be honest, you’ll always be heartbroken. Perhaps I’m just trying to insulate my heart.
Fly-On-The-Wall
May 27th, 2010
11:50 am
JKL2 – do you really believe the Bush Administration was good to the troops? If so then please state how?
JKL2
May 27th, 2010
11:57 am
Saul- but he was certainly NO Dick Cheney or Bush for that matter.
The American apology tour has done nothing but make us a laughing stock of the countries that are trying to do us harm. Just wait until Iraq becomes the new Saigon when we pull out. Are you going to send the military back in, getting Soldiers killed, to clean up the mess or are you just going to let thousands die for helping us?
Chicago is asking to mobilize the National Guard to help protect its streets. I think you’ll find it’s currently more dangerous than Iraq.
JKL2
May 27th, 2010
12:00 pm
Fly- do you really believe the Bush Administration was good to the troops?
Unwaivering support in everything they do. It continues to this day, it just doesn’t get reported because he wants to keep it low key.
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AmVet
May 27th, 2010
12:01 pm
“And how many times was he impeached? I’d think Nixon would have something to say on the subject.”
JKL2, ss you probably recall his comrades in the Tweedledee Party – Pelosi, Reid, Clinton, Obama et al “took impeachment off the table” after the neo-cons got decimated in historic fashion in 2006.
Why? I haven’t the foggiest. (Honor amongst thieves?)
ken
May 27th, 2010
12:04 pm
You are as bad as Obama. A divider. Ever going to write about Van Jones ?
Fly-On-The-Wall
May 27th, 2010
12:05 pm
JKL2 – so that’s all you’ve got? Obama supports the troops, the Democratcs support the troops. Everyone supports the troops.
Does his lack of support for the wounded when they came back from his wars mean anything to you? Does his lack of supplying the troops with the equipment they needed or for that matter enough troops to do the job the first time mean anything?
I’m sorry but the rah-rah stuff just isn’t enough for someone who is the President and sends people to war.
Hillbilly Deluxe
May 27th, 2010
12:06 pm
The conundrum is, if you expect pols to be honest, you’ll always be heartbroken.
sfd
I didn’t say I expected it; I just said that’s the way it should be.
Saul Good
May 27th, 2010
12:09 pm
JKL2
Apology Tour? I have NO IDEA where you get your information from…but since Obama was first elected…the USA is once again “RESPECTED” around the world. The CT. Cowboy was the one who was “hated” around the world. I don’t even think you watch Fox… you must get your info from the deepest darkest KKK sites on the internet. WOW are you clueless friend.
AmVet
May 27th, 2010
12:11 pm
Once again, I predict the “candyass” Sestak destroys whatever poor GOP schmuck runs against him in November.
Even Karl & the Swift Boaters can’t help on this one.
Too bad, cons. He’ll make a damn good US Senator…
Saul Good
May 27th, 2010
12:13 pm
Agreed AmVet… a TRUE “patriot” who has spent the better part of his life serving the USA… just like Dick Cheney did (oh except that he never ran Halliburton).
Andy
May 27th, 2010
12:16 pm
18 USC 600, 595, 211 – three felonies. I suppose people lie all the time about “sex” too under oath so its OK to lie in court – if and only if your a Democrat. Sestak brought this up because it is and was an outrage.
Tired of one law for Democrats, another law for everyone else.
Tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth – act and speak with integrity – or go to prison when you get caught playing fast and loose with the law.
JKL2
May 27th, 2010
12:18 pm
AmVet- (Honor amongst thieves?)
I will agree somewhat on that. Hard to impeach someone for something you voted for. I guess Clinton was lying when he said,
“Earlier today, I ordered America’s armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq’s nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.”
They loved it when Clinton said it, they loved it w/Bush after 9/11, they have no recollection of any of that ever happening today under Obama. Time to “drain the swamp” and we can start with Pelosi.
diabolical butter
May 27th, 2010
12:19 pm
Tweedledee Party – Pelosi, Reid, Clinton, Obama et al “took impeachment off the table”
Why? because they knew they couldn’t.
JKL2
May 27th, 2010
12:26 pm
Saul- I guess it was from the limited amount of news coverage in Mozul.
I believe it was Ahmadinejad that called Obama a “cowboy”
Emboldening your enemies and alienating your allies is not what I would call earning respect around the world.
Jay
May 27th, 2010
12:28 pm
To Ken:
No.
JKL2
May 27th, 2010
12:29 pm
saul- you must get your info from the deepest darkest KKK sites on the internet
Why do you Demwits always have to throw the race card?
midtownguy
May 27th, 2010
12:32 pm
They tried this with Bill Clinton and failed and he actually did commit an impeachable act (lying under oath). Don’t they realize that attacking a popular president (and yes my fellow Georgians, outside the deep south he is quite well thought of) makes him even more popular?
A CONSERVATIVE
May 27th, 2010
12:34 pm
JAY REMAINS A VOICE for OBAMA…& the looooney Left…however silly he sounds…JAY….you R A pathetic comic figure on the internet.
A CONSERVATIVE
May 27th, 2010
12:36 pm
midtownguy…..Liberals HAVE NO PROBLEMs WITH CHEATING ON YOUR SPOUSE…THEY DO IT ALL THE TIME.
Saul Good
May 27th, 2010
12:37 pm
JKL2…Race card? Tell me…how do you feel about Hispanics? How do you feel about a Muslim moving in next door to you? How about one of your children marrying either an Illegal Immigrant or a Muslim ? Would you give them your “blessing”???
And NO…lots of the world’s leaders hated Bush… if you don’t know that… you just don’t READ.
Right after 9-11 we had the worlds support behind us…once Bush and Co decided to go and invade Iraq… he lost his support around the world. If you TRULY think that Bush was “loved” by other world leaders…post it.
A CONSERVATIVE
May 27th, 2010
12:38 pm
Liberals hold cheaters in high regard…
theyeshaveit
May 27th, 2010
12:38 pm
mike, even for a former AJC employee, you seem full of sour grapes and jealousy. Moreover, I find you lack any semblance of editorial (or even commentary) style or journalistic abilities.
I smell an inferiority complex. You should embark on a different career. Journalism certainly is not your forte.
Saul Good
May 27th, 2010
12:42 pm
A CONSERVATIVE: You mean like Cheney and Scooter Libby….RIGHT?
JKL2
May 27th, 2010
12:49 pm
saul- You’re the one throwing KKK references. When did I ever bring up race?
My sister-in-law is a Spanish teacher, I have a Muslim in the family(Raj) and if my daughter wanted to date an illegal immigrant I would probably report him to the authorities like any other ILLEGAL criminal I know.
Chaves, Castro, Ahmadinejad, and Calderon all love Obama. With friends like that, who needs enemies.