BP about to take its best shot at shutting massive oil leak

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Thirty-six days after the Deepwater Horizon exploded, killing 11 crew members and setting off a massive oil leak, BP may finally be ready to attempt to seal the drill site with a “top kill” of heavy mud followed by cement.

I’ve seen estimates of success at 60 to 70 percent, so keep your fingers crossed.

All of them. It’s a critical moment, the last best chance to stop the flow for weeks if not months. If this doesn’t work…

Here’s how BP describes the process:

“A total of 50,000 barrels of mud will be on location to kill the well – far more than necessary, but we want to be prepared for anything. Pumping capacity on location is more than 30,000 hydraulic horsepower.

The mud will be pumped down the 6-5/8 inch drill pipe (pipe is connected to the Q4000), then through 3-inch hoses, which go through the manifold on the seafloor. Then the mud moves through another set of 3-inch hoses attached to the Deepwater Horizon BOP choke and kill lines.

With the manifold, we can also pump the ‘junk shot’ if necessary to stop too much of the kill mud going out through the top of the BOP rather than going down into the well to stop the flow. By switching valves in the subsea manifold, we can inject the ‘bridging material’ (the junk), which will prevent such losses and enable the top kill to continue.

We’ve been testing the junk shot on-shore, looking at different configurations of what might restrict the flow out of the Deepwater Horizon riser and what types of materials would help shut it off. Materials in a junk shot can include well-known items such as pieces of tires, golf balls, and pieces of rope.”

After initialing declaring that public access to the video feed would be halted during the operation, BP relented last night and announced the feed would continue. It warned:

“Throughout the extended top kill procedure – which may take up to two days to complete – very significant changes in the appearance of the flows at the seabed may be expected. These will not provide a reliable indicator of the overall progress, or success or failure, of the top kill operation as a whole. BP will report on the progress of the operation as appropriate and on its outcome when complete.”

BP had suggested the operation could begin as early as dawn today, but as of 7:30 a.m., there is no indication from the video that operations had actually begun.

On Thursday, Interior Department officials are expected to deliver the results of a 30-day review of the offshore drilling program to President Obama, including recommendations for how tighten oversight. The next day, Obama is scheduled to visit the Gulf.

Congress has also been investigating, as The New York Times reports:

In the hours before the Deepwater Horizon oil rig exploded last month in the Gulf of Mexico, there were strong warning signs that something was terribly wrong with the well, according to a Congressional committee that was briefed on the accident by executives from BP.

Among the red flags, the panel said, were several equipment readings suggesting that gas was bubbling into the well, a potential sign of an impending blowout. Investigators also noted “other events in the 24 hours before the explosion that require further inquiry,” including a critical decision to replace heavy mud in the pipe rising from the seabed with seawater, possibly increasing the risk of an explosion.

…. Some of those who survived the explosion, including managers from BP and Transocean, are expected to testify at hearings in Louisiana to be held by the Coast Guard and the federal Minerals Management Service, beginning Wednesday.

The testimony may help clear up some of the uncertainties about the day of the accident, including who was making the decisions. But the new information from BP — combined with past testimony by executives, analysis of documents by The New York Times and interviews with independent drilling experts — is beginning to paint a picture of a complex operation that went awry just as it was drawing to a close.

Drilling logs from the Deepwater Horizon suggest that shortly after midnight on the morning of the explosion, attention had turned to temporarily plugging and capping the well so the rig could disconnect and move to another job. Halliburton, the contractor hired by BP to provide cementing services, had spent the past several weeks cementing each new segment of the well into place. Halliburton was also responsible for plugging it….

However, in testimony before Congressional hearings, Halliburton executives have said that the company adhered strictly to the specifications provided by BP for the cementing of the well.”

The only break we’ve seemed to get in this whole tragedy has been with the weather. NOAA predicts that it will continue to be calm, for the most part keeping the oil offshore, although portions of the Louisiana coast have already been hammered. Bad as it is, the only solace is that it could be much much worse.

Like I said, keep your fingers crossed, and pray.

237 comments Add your comment

USinUK

May 26th, 2010
7:48 am

… but of course, it’s all Obama’s fault …

:roll:

Lord Help Us

May 26th, 2010
7:56 am

Still waiting for some updates from the ‘drill, baby, drill’ contingent and from the ‘this is no big deal, not as bad as natural seepage, where is the oil, ocean will clean itselt’ armchair brigade…

Not much being said now, especially no humility or remorse…tells me a lot about the seriousness of those that cannot acknowledge (although Palin is convinced Obama is in BP’s pocket)…there’s your ‘leader’ GOP. You should be proud.

stands for decibels

May 26th, 2010
7:56 am

I’ve seen estimates of success at 60 to 70 percent, so keep your fingers crossed.

About all we can do. Prayin’ can’t hurt either…

Like I said, keep your fingers crossed, and pray.

right. Like he said.

Outhouse GoKart

May 26th, 2010
7:58 am

The ocean will clean itself.
Accidents are gonna happen.
Its Obamas fault.
MMS couldve stopped this.
Had McCain been Pres this never wouldve occured.

stands for decibels

May 26th, 2010
8:01 am

But see, here’s the thing. You set up a rig to go somewhere in the ocean so deep we can’t even send a manned craft to inspect it. You go drill several miles deeper to bring out massive amounts of rotting, toxic crap Mother Nature, in her wisdom, doesn’t generally loose upon her subjects but in bits and pieces here and there.

If you do all this, it’d probably be a good idea to have backups to the backups to the backup plan to account for everything going kablooie before of the decaying toxic crap every gets out of its miles-deep hold, before you drill baby drill.

Just saying.

USinUK

May 26th, 2010
8:03 am

dB – 8:01 – that’s crazy talk.

stands for decibels

May 26th, 2010
8:03 am

“…before ANY of the decaying toxic crap…”

anyway, gotta go pay for the cleanup. Later, kids. Don’t drill anything while I’m away.

Mick

May 26th, 2010
8:03 am

How is the ocean gonna clean itself?
Accidents can be prevented.
Its all BP and Cneneys fault.
MMS is high on drugs.
Had mccain been pres, we’d be at war in iran now

Outhouse GoKart

May 26th, 2010
8:06 am

“MMS is high on drugs.”

LOL>

Normal

May 26th, 2010
8:07 am

NPR just reported an interview with the BP head honcho, who said he will decide if they will try to cap today and that there is no guarentee…

Mick

May 26th, 2010
8:10 am

If the kill shot or whatever they call it fails; its time to bring in joe the plumber.

Dave R.

May 26th, 2010
8:10 am

“… but of course, it’s all Obama’s fault … ”

The spill, no.

The lack of any meaningful Federal effort from an administration that pride’s itself on Federal intervention? Yes.

We have kids in charge of the candy store.

Doggone/GA

May 26th, 2010
8:11 am

“its time to bring in joe the plumber.”

Where’s Red Adair when you need him?

Dave R.

May 26th, 2010
8:13 am

“Where’s Red Adair when you need him?”

Dead, in 2004.

Doggone/GA

May 26th, 2010
8:15 am

“Dead, in 2004″

yes, dear…I know that

Normal

May 26th, 2010
8:15 am

The lack of any meaningful Federal effort from an administration that pride’s itself on Federal intervention? Yes.

Form the mouth of a true, RED blooded Republican…

Dave, tell me, what could he have done? Inquiring minds want to know…

jason

May 26th, 2010
8:16 am

with 4000 oil platforms in the gulf all this should of been ready to go. If it can happen it will, and will happen again. With so much at stake and all the money being made, why do you have to learn the hard way.

Peadawg

May 26th, 2010
8:19 am

Let’s pray it works! If that’s ok with you Democrats. Make sure you go in your room and close the
door!!

larry

May 26th, 2010
8:22 am

Yes it will happen again. There is another platform called Atlantis which is not far from the one that exploded that is having problems according to the “60 minutes” interview with a worker from the doomed rig that exploded. Its sad that these companies , not just BP, cant see as far as the end of their noses. And its not just in the oil industry either.

Peadawg

May 26th, 2010
8:25 am

“… but of course, it’s all Obama’s fault …”

About as much as Katrina was Bush’s fault. *rolls eyes*

Finn McCool

May 26th, 2010
8:25 am

It’s Obama’s fault.

I want ma countra back!

Dave R.

May 26th, 2010
8:25 am

“Form the mouth of a true, RED blooded Republican…
Dave, tell me, what could he have done? Inquiring minds want to know…”

How many times do I have to tell you, Normal, I’m NOT a Republican. I am too principled to be one. And if you had really taken the time to read my posts on this blog, you’d know that both parties get, and deserve, my undying loathing.

As to what specifically Hope & Change could have done? Who knows? But for an administration that prides itself on inserting their Federal noses in virtually everything they can (financial, healthcare, autos, bailouts, etc), and one that never turns down an opportunity to denigrate the oil industry, I find it very telling that they haven’t interceded in this fiasco.

Union

May 26th, 2010
8:26 am

The leak will be fixed.. we will continue to drill and pump oil.As a result, standards will improve, safety devices will be improved and if all things go well, could be 100 years before we have another accident.
Three Mile Island – Chernobyl – didn’t stop nuclear production of power, it did make us more cautious.

I do find it somewhat hypocritical the “supposed” disdain that jay has for the oil companies, all the while working in an industry that destroys our forests and adds tons of waste to landfills daily.

All that being said.. please please please work.

Outhouse GoKart

May 26th, 2010
8:27 am

Well if 60 minutes/Entertainment Tonight states such then it must be true.

Mysteries of the Universe, Solved

May 26th, 2010
8:30 am

As long as the well pressure is dropping and they are not simply getting a false indicator of reduced pressure via reduced pipe outlet pressure due to a partially clogged pipe, then sure, it has a chance at working. I mean, anyone that knows their fluid mechanics will tell you that. After all, this isn’t rocket science. Even those Republicans, with their limited educations, that are doing all the whining about Obama not doing something more should know that. Then again, perhaps a little pictorial showing them where to insert said pipe along with an arrow showing circular motion afterward would help them to understand.

AmVet

May 26th, 2010
8:30 am

What oil? I don’t see any oil. Do you see any oil, Andy?

The emasculated, bribed Feds are now being excoriated by the people who wanted them emasculated and bribed. And this ecological and financial disaster does not change a single thing in the “minds” of the “smaller government” dupes.

They’ve clamored for decades to insanely under man and underfund these governmental agencies – that are the only thing standing between complete corporate lawlessness and us – and now that they finally got that, oops!

Wall Street, September 2008 and Deepwater Horizon, April 2010.

So save me the faux indignation.

IF Uncle Sam had been doing his job, the outcry of government interference by the ever-conned would have been deafening.

So tell me godly conservatives, do you now proffer that “heavy handed” oversight and enforcement of regulations to protect we the people and OUR assets is not such a terrible thing?

Or maybe we should all just continue to look the other way while MMS dines on lobster and drinks champagne paid for by BP, Exxon, etc…

Finn McCool

May 26th, 2010
8:30 am

I thought it was BP’s fault but you want to blame our government?

The blame-America-first crowd has spoken.

Companies never screw up – people never die from their negligence, women never have to get their private parts surgically rebuilt due to hot coffee, illegal dumping never occurs resulting in cancer and birth defects. But government employees can’t do anything right.

Outhouse GoKart

May 26th, 2010
8:32 am

We need another spending/stimulus bill. Maybe we will get one soon.

david wayne osedach

May 26th, 2010
8:33 am

This is very serious business and there is no more time to take half measures.

Finn McCool

May 26th, 2010
8:33 am

I find it very telling that they haven’t interceded in this fiasco.

Yeah, I’m sure no one in the administration has been on the phone with BP over the last month.

Mysteries of the Universe, Solved

May 26th, 2010
8:35 am

I keep telling you, “I’m not a Republican.” I just hate Obama and love Bush, says the blogger with about as much credibility as the Lost Scout. Okay, so I paraphrased. He might have used slightly different punctuation.

Mysteries of the Universe, Solved

May 26th, 2010
8:36 am

Perhaps another tax cut will soothe the savage Republican for a few minutes.

Dave R.

May 26th, 2010
8:37 am

Finn, if this were the previous administration, and someone posted what you did about phone calls, you’d be all over them for not treating this issue seriously enough.

At some point you need to become intellectually honest about this mismanagement from both sides.

Finn McCool

May 26th, 2010
8:37 am

I suppose we could call in our crack team of oil leakage special forces. Which government agency do they work for again?

Is it the same government agency that specializes in collapsed mines? And collapsed bridges? And train wrecks? All are man-created disasters so what’s the problem?

Oil-leakage powers, activate!

not on my watch

May 26th, 2010
8:37 am

Let this be a lesson, we are NOT the masters of the planet. (..even if you think the Bible says so…)

Dave R.

May 26th, 2010
8:40 am

Universe, if you would please poll the other regular members of this blog to see how much I disagreed with Bush on spending, Iraq and social issues, you’d see your last comment has no basis in fact.

But that would require an open mind and intellectual honesty on your part . . .

Outhouse GoKart

May 26th, 2010
8:41 am

Tax cuts? Dont know about that but a tax increase is on its way. The Bush tax cuts expire this year. Wonder if Obi will extend or keep hatin on us?

Finn McCool

May 26th, 2010
8:41 am

Dave R., how much lead time did the previous administration have before the Katrina event occured?

On the other hand, how much experience have we had dealing with hurricanes vs. dealing with oil leaks? Hurricanes are supposed to happen so we have a department prepared to deal with it. An oil leak of this magnitude is not supposed to happen.

Are you starting to grasp the difference here?

@@

May 26th, 2010
8:42 am

Materials in a junk shot can include well-known items such as pieces of tires, golf balls, and pieces of rope.”

Well…that’s not a duplication of the materials they drilled thru, but ——WHEN——it works, GREAT!

jay, would you like to instruct me in how it is I should pray?

Union

May 26th, 2010
8:43 am

As far as the gov’t getting any more involved.. I liked what Thad Allen told a reporter, when the reporter repeatedly asked why the gov’t wasn’t getting more involved in fixing the problem.. I believe he said something to the effect of “who exactly should we call?”

jt

May 26th, 2010
8:44 am

Although you wouldn’t want government employees getting in the way of real work,

EVERY employee of the MMS should be down there washing birds or some other mundane task that they are qualified for.

Union

May 26th, 2010
8:44 am

Finn.. as far as Katrina goes.. I don’t think any administration could have been prepared for the enormous stupidity shown by the people of new orleans and not evacuating.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

May 26th, 2010
8:45 am

Well, I seen people bragging on their grandkids this a.m. and tried to keep quiet about mine, but I just can’t hardly help being proud of little Sonny Zell George. He already knows all the car and truck names and can yell them out when he sees them on the track. And his babysetter says he’ll be able to count to five any time now. The missus and me are talking about putting him in a school, only we don’t want him to be taught by this josef nix because the gay might could rub off. So there, I done my bragging and I’m thru with it.

Anyhow, what BP needs to stop this leak is some good old GA clay. That stuff will stop anything. If you cut a artery just slap some GA clay on it and the bleeding will stop. Heck, the stuff’s so good it won’t even come out of clothes no matter how many times you wash them. Just put a big blob of GA clay on the end of a line and lower it to the ocean bottom and that leak will be as gone as Obama in November 2012.

Anyhow, I got some hauling to do so I’ll check back in later to see if the oil leak has stopped. Have a good day everybody.

Finn McCool

May 26th, 2010
8:46 am

OKG, Obama promised us tax increases but I haven’t seen them yet.

I’m getting kinda po’d waiting for them…promises promises

USinUK

May 26th, 2010
8:48 am

Dave – “The lack of any meaningful Federal effort from an administration that pride’s itself on Federal intervention? Yes.”

okay. I’ll ask you the same question I asked Bud yesterday – what EXACTLY do you suggest the administration do???

Peadawg – “About as much as Katrina was Bush’s fault.”

um … let’s see … 3-day notice that the hurricane was not only going to be a direct hit, but that it was going to be a Cat 5, it was going to cause massive flooding, etc … not to mention, FEMA is the government’s JOB

vs. NO notice of an explosion and fixing a well a mile underwater – which is NOT the government’s job

but other than that, yeah, they’re exactly the same :roll:

Outhouse GoKart

May 26th, 2010
8:49 am

“Dave R., how much lead time did the previous administration have before the Katrina event occured?”

The State of LA govt had plenty of time. Nagin and co-conspirators were so inept they refused to call a mandatory evac. Then of course they resist requesting Federal Aid until things are in complete chaos, mayhem, pandemonium…

Katrina lays squarely at the feet of the LA State and Local govt.

Bosch

May 26th, 2010
8:51 am

“Oil-leakage powers, activate!”

Good one Finn. Yeah, I need to get that upgrade on my super hero armband.

““““““““

“I believe he said something to the effect of “who exactly should we call?”

And that’s true. At this point we probably should call in the Russians or the Norwegians or somebody whose actually fixed a problem such as this.

USinUK

May 26th, 2010
8:51 am

who’s Red Adair?

md

May 26th, 2010
8:51 am

“enormous stupidity shown by the people”

I agree, but in their defense, people on here that have never lived in a hurricane zone are clueless. People choose to stay for many reasons, one of which is the fact that they suffered no adverse conditions in prior hurricanes, so they dropped their guard. (Been there, done that)

But, it was a conscious choice to stay.

And for those that put the blame on the last in line in regards to agreed upon responsibility, they are only fooling themselves.

Mysteries of the Universe, Solved

May 26th, 2010
8:51 am

Universe, if you would please poll the other regular members of this blog to see how much I disagreed with Bush on spending, Iraq and social issues, you’d see your last comment has no basis in fact.

But that would require an open mind and intellectual honesty on your part . . .

I would rather see physical proof. Show me some of your posts where you disagreed with Bush’s policies with the same fervor as you do with Obama and in the same timeframe relative to his time in office. Something you said about Bush’s policies from 2001 and 2002 and something about Obama since he took office, just so we can have an apples to apples comparison. I promise to look at such evidence with an open mind and to judge them using as much intellectual honesty as I see from you.

Keep up the good fight!

May 26th, 2010
8:51 am

The Repubs with Kenneth the Page gov speaking make fun to studying volcanos and said was ridiculous….imagine what would have been said if gov’t had said we are going to spend a lot of money to have a system to handle a major blowout……but..but…private enterprise can do it better, etc……

Lesson learned: Private enterprise does not always do it better and there is a role for government regulations, including environmental protection. There are some things we should not allow to be done until we have real methods to address the potential disasters and there should be no liability caps. Oh, and having Dick Cheney meet behind closed doors with oil executives to create an energy plan has real consequences….

Gale

May 26th, 2010
8:53 am

I would suppose anyone with any expertise has already offered help. No matter what country they live in, it is their planet too. Polluting a large expanse of water effects us all.

Normal

May 26th, 2010
8:55 am

USinUK

May 26th, 2010
8:51 am
who’s Red Adair?

USinUK, he was a famous oil rig fire fighter based out of Texas. John Wayne played him in the movie, “The Hellfighters”. The real Red helped put out the fires Sadam left in Kuwait.

Dave R.

May 26th, 2010
8:56 am

“Dave R., how much lead time did the previous administration have before the Katrina event occured?”

Plenty, and if you’ll note in Karl Rove’s book (backed up with memos and logs) they warned Louisiana and New Orleans days before Katrina and recommended evacuation days before. Their recommendations were ignored.

As to this current disaster, do you think every oil boom in the nation is in use right now? Do you think dispersal chemicals could have been used earlier and more frequently? More burns, perhaps?

Why do you find it so incomprehensible to admit that this administration, given their proclivity for inserting their noses in virtually everything they have no business doing so, is so hesitant to do so for this natural disaster.

Scout

May 26th, 2010
8:56 am

USinUK

May 26th, 2010
8:56 am

OGK – “Then of course they resist requesting Federal Aid until things are in complete chaos, mayhem, pandemonium”

wrong AGAIN … On Friday, 26 August, Governor B declared a state of emergency and also started coordinating with FEMA and the national guard.

on Saturday, 27 August, evacuations began. Governor B sent a letter asking Bush to delcare a major disaster for LA in order to release federal assistance. The emergency declaration also ASSIGNED THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR RELIEF EFFORTS WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

Normal

May 26th, 2010
8:57 am

Dave R.,
I’ll ask you again, just what is it you would have this Administration do?

USinUK

May 26th, 2010
8:58 am

Normal – 8:55 – you know EVERYthing! (and if you don’t, your grandson does!) :-)

USinUK

May 26th, 2010
8:59 am

Normal – 8:57 – I’m awaiting, too …

md

May 26th, 2010
8:59 am

“um … let’s see … 3-day notice that the hurricane was not only going to be a direct hit, but that it was going to be a Cat 5, it was going to cause massive flooding, etc … not to mention, FEMA is the government’s JOB”

Do you know how many Cat 5’s came ashore as Cat 4’s, 3’s and 2’s, and how many of them turned drastically just before reaching shore?? The fed’s were last in line – could they have done better? Absolutely. But one needs to ask the question – if the other 3 in line had done their jobs, would the fed even have been needed other than normal disaster clean-up.

larry

May 26th, 2010
8:59 am

Well if 60 minutes/Entertainment Tonight states such then it must be true.

Yeah, that guy that worked on the rig and was there as it was exploding was lying. Shhhesssh

Normal

May 26th, 2010
9:00 am

USinUK,

Revisionist history. They are good at it. If things don’t go your way, then pretend it never happened or that it did go your way and in time all the universe will believe you…

Bosch

May 26th, 2010
9:00 am

Famous oil. rig. fire. fighter? Jesus, they’ll make a celebrity out of anyone.

HELLO! I AM RED! THE FAMOUS OIL RIG FIRE FIGHTER!

Doggone/GA

May 26th, 2010
9:02 am

USinUK – check out: http://www.redadair.com/

His biography is amazing. And it details a standing joke about him in TX: A Texan died, and went to heaven…but no matter what they showed him he said “it was better in Texas” Beautiful women? Better in Texas. Lovely landscape? Better in Texas Gorgeous beaches” Better in Texas.

So finally they took him to the edge of Heaven to look down into the fires of Hell. Got anything like that in Texas? Nope, but we got the only SOB who could put it out!

Normal

May 26th, 2010
9:03 am

Bosch,
Careful with the “RED” stuff…you might get labeled… :)

Mysteries of the Universe, Solved

May 26th, 2010
9:03 am

Responsibilities are also assigned, by law dating back to 1990, for handling of oil spills. The Republicans have yet to point out any basis from law for their claims that Obama should be doing something beyond what he is currently doing. They’re just whining, as expected, in yet another lame attempt to score political points. They do not actually care about the leak or the people affected by the leak.

USinUK

May 26th, 2010
9:03 am

md – “The fed’s were last in line – could they have done better?”

actually, no they weren’t – as mentioned above, LEGALLY, when the President declares a disaster area, they assumer responsibility for the response

and, as anyone knows who sat and watched the news for the weekend leading up to the Monday landfall, the NWS predicted EVERYthing that was going to happen – and they were right on the money.

Outhouse GoKart

May 26th, 2010
9:03 am

The Feds warned LA/Nagin and Co-conspirators and they chose to ignore said warnings. The mess rest squarely with the State and Local govt.

USinUK

May 26th, 2010
9:05 am

Doggone – 9:03 – :lol: that’s brilliant! and thanks for the link – will check that out!

(that’s what I love about this place – diverse folks with diverse interests sharing fun factoids!)

Bosch

May 26th, 2010
9:06 am

Normal,

As a Communist or wingnut?

USinUK

May 26th, 2010
9:06 am

OGK – “they chose to ignore said warnings”

by “ignore” you mean start evacuations 2 days early?
by “ignore” you mean get all the proper declarations made to streamline assistance?

talk about revisionist history

Doggone/GA

May 26th, 2010
9:06 am

USinUK…I’ve read, and reread, his biography so much I’ve about worn it out.

godless heathen

May 26th, 2010
9:08 am

Was watching Morning Joe on PMSNBC this AM. Rampant stupidity about the chemical dispersants (aka soap) being used in the Gulf was on display. Joe was wringing his hands over all the birth defects that will be caused from people eating the contaminated seafood. Good grief.

N-GA

May 26th, 2010
9:08 am

Hospitals are required to have a Disaster Recovery Plan (often called a Business Continuity Plan). Banks are required to have them also….and the government requires that they be tested every year. I understand that every oil platform must have such a plan on file with the Feds. Why then did BP have to “manufacture” that “dome”? Why wasn’t it already sitting there waiting to be used? Was their plan reviewed and tested (to the degree that it could be tested)? It seems they are really just winging it.

I suspect there will be a search for the answers to these questions and a host of others.

md

May 26th, 2010
9:10 am

“and, as anyone knows who sat and watched the news for the weekend leading up to the Monday landfall, the NWS predicted EVERYthing that was going to happen – and they were right on the money.”

And my point – having lived through several – is that they are “predictions”. Folks that live there (including those in gov’t) have a tendency to be skeptical. It is the cry wolf syndrome. Pack it up, leave for several days, then come back to minimal damage, folks tend to ignore the warnings. Predictions that were more often wrong than right. So just because that got that “one” right means very little to folks that go through 5-10 a year. It still boils down to the inhabitants – they leave, problem doesn’t exist.

Peadawg

May 26th, 2010
9:11 am

USinUK @ 8:48 am

So, FEMA had to tell the idiots in New Orleans to leave? They weren’t smart enough to know they should leave? Personal responsibility pal, personal responsibility.

My point was neither of these events were/are the President’s fault.

Curious Observer

May 26th, 2010
9:11 am

Famous oil. rig. fire. fighter? Jesus, they’ll make a celebrity out of anyone.

Red Adair deserved all the fame he acquired. The guy was simply fearless, not to mention amazingly effective. It says a lot about him that when Saddam left Kuwaiti oil wells burning out of control and nobody could get within 100 yards of one, the first person that the U.S. government called was Red Adair.

Doggone/GA

May 26th, 2010
9:15 am

“nobody could get within 100 yards of one”

He wasn’t a big fan of OSHA either. There’s a story in there about some inspector insisting his men use modern, plastic hard helmets instead of the metal ones they were using. Red told the guy to follow him, and started walking towards a burning well. When the plastic helmet started to MELT around the guy’s ears…end of requirement to use plastic helmets!

Outhouse GoKart

May 26th, 2010
9:15 am

Im thinking Katrina was more the fault of Nagin than any other.

USinUK

May 26th, 2010
9:15 am

md – 9:10 – my dad has a place down in FL, so while I haven’t experienced hurricanes firsthand, I’ve gotten the rundown from him. and, I can also understand the people who are too old or who barely have a pot to pi$$ (not to mention, don’t have a car to drive or money for a hotel) not leaving –

in other words, evacuation orders are only as good as the people who listen to them. BUT, contrary to what OGK was saying, the orders WERE given more than 2 full days before landfall.

Peadawg – “So, FEMA had to tell the idiots in New Orleans to leave?” ah. no. but they were responsible for recovery.

USinUK

May 26th, 2010
9:16 am

Curious – 9:11 – now, that’s cool.

Outhouse GoKart

May 26th, 2010
9:18 am

John Wayne starred in some movie about fighting oil well fires with a son in law in the movie who would also fight oil well fires. The daughter was married to the son in law and she was upset about the dangerous job in which her old man was involved, but it had a happy ending…I think.

@@

May 26th, 2010
9:18 am

Lawd-ah-mercy!

On Apr. 30, the Huffington Post published a story stating:

In what is looming as another public relations predicament for Goldman Sachs, the banking giant admitted today that it made “a substantial financial bet against the Gulf of Mexico” one day before the sinking of an oil rig in that body of water.

The new revelations came to light after government investigators turned up new emails from Goldman employee Fabrice “Fabulous Fab” Tourre in which he bragged to a girlfriend that the firm was taking a “big short” position on the Gulf.

“One oil rig goes down and we’re going to be rolling in dough,” Mr. Tourre wrote in one email. “Suck it, fishies and birdies!”

Try to remember, Huff’nPuffers…Andy Borowitz is a comedian! The stuff he writes is satire!

Not being aware that the author, Andy Borowitz, is a comedian, scores of Internet sites ran with the story as being genuine. As of today, Google search on Goldman Sachs shorted “Gulf of Mexico” pulls up 207,000 returns, beginning with the Huffington Post link. Many, such as Infowars, pulled their stories when they realized the mistake.

Huffington has scrubbed all the comments to protect their gullible.

Remember…ANDY BOROWITZ IS A COMEDIAN! Always look for the byline, ANDY BOROWITZ.

http://pesn.com/2010/05/05/9501645_No_joke–Goldman_Sachs_shorted_TransOcean/

Sheesh!

Peadawg

May 26th, 2010
9:18 am

“ut they were responsible for recovery.”

Agreed. But Obama’s stuck his nose in every other part of our lives. Yet an oil spill that threatens the entire Gulf Coast…**cricket cricket**

RB from Gwinnett

May 26th, 2010
9:18 am

Finn, you’re making excuses because it fits you agenda. Please stop. You want to blame it all on Bush and give the mayor and gov a pass only because he’s an R and they’re D’s. Stop already. That’s dumb, dishonest, and not productive. Bush couldn’t make them board empty busses and drive themselves out of a below-sea-level city.

And Obama isn’t doing anything because he has no idea what to do. “Plug the damn hole” is a great sound bite, but is worthless coming from an armchair deepwater scientist. Worthless. The government doesn’t have the expertise to deal with this and they need to stop bashing BP for sound bites and figure out how they CAN help in areas they do have some expertise.

This is not a political issue. Stop making it one.

Bosch

May 26th, 2010
9:20 am

“people who are too old or who barely have a pot to pi$$ (not to mention, don’t have a car to drive or money for a hotel) not leaving –”

And that’s the crux of the problem. Katrina hit at the end of the month.

Bosch

May 26th, 2010
9:20 am

“But Obama’s stuck his nose in every other part of our lives.”

WTF? First of all, that’s retarded – second of all, again, what is he supposed to be doing that he’s not already?

Peadawg

May 26th, 2010
9:21 am

Gotta love this quote about New Orleans:
“Even after the recent Super Bowl victory of the New Orleans Saints, I have noticed a large number of people implying with bad jokes that Cajuns aren’t smart.

I would like to state for the record that I disagree with that assessment. Anybody that would build a city 5 feet below sea level in a hurricane zone and fill it with Democrats is a damn genius.”

Bud Wiser

May 26th, 2010
9:21 am

I guess we really would not be having this situation had the politicians, mostly Democrat, and the environmental whackos not removed drilling on land, such as ANWAR, where had such a spill occured, it could have been repaired much easier, much more quickly, and considerably less messier than we see now.

But, with this deep water accident, yet another chapter is written on the incompetent sap we have as an alleged president, a fool who has done virtually nothing publicly or privately, showing that he has absolutely no grasp whatsoever on what is occurring.

The very environmentalists who shoved the drilling offshore to protect their precious little marshlands and associated flora and fauna hold a degree of responsibility as well.

Obama’s fault, as some mushroom head suggested? No, not really.

Reaction, action, repair or control to the disaster being measured in near geological time Obama’s fault? Yes, totally. The ensuing massive ecological disaster being spread while Nero fiddles also Obama’s fault? Absolutely.

November 10.

Doggone/GA

May 26th, 2010
9:21 am

“John Wayne starred in some movie about fighting oil well fires”

And it’s a misconception that it was “about” Red Adair. It was based on his life, but it wasn’t meant to be boigraphical..and it wasn’t. But he did work on the movie creating and co-ordinating the burning well sequences. And Red Adair and John Wayne were friends for the rest of their lives.

Peadawg

May 26th, 2010
9:22 am

“WTF? First of all, that’s retarded”

Of course it is to you. You don’t mind big huge government.

Outhouse GoKart

May 26th, 2010
9:23 am

From what I recall it wasnt the old or the infermed left in the soup. It was those excercising willful neglect, jumping up and down, stealing, looting – other than non-essentials etc.

Luckily, for them and us, Sean Penn pulled up in his john-boat and saved the day.

Bosch

May 26th, 2010
9:23 am

“You don’t mind big huge government.”

Speak for yourself Peadawg – and leave the adults alone to talk. Now, run along and play.

Bosch

May 26th, 2010
9:25 am

Outhouse,

“From what I recall it wasnt the old or the infermed left in the soup.”

I guess you forgot about the old lady in the wheelchair who died outside the Convention Center with the blanket covering her because there was no where to take her. I mean, Jesus man, that picture was everywhere.

Peadawg

May 26th, 2010
9:25 am

Bosch, I thought you were a democrat?

Bosch

May 26th, 2010
9:26 am

Peadawg,

You should never assume things, nor speak for others. It’s very dangerous and can get you in trouble sometimes.

Finn McCool

May 26th, 2010
9:27 am

Funny to hear all the “guvmint, keep your hands our of private bidness” conservatives totally pissed that the guvmint isn’t fixing BP (a private company, last I checked) f-up.

“we don’t want no regalations.”

chortle chortle

Peadawg

May 26th, 2010
9:27 am

My bad. The way you’re always on here agreeing w/ Jay and disagreeing with me and other Republicans…I thought you were a Democrat.

Finn McCool

May 26th, 2010
9:28 am

bleeding heart conservatives

Finn McCool

May 26th, 2010
9:28 am

Funny to hear all the “guvmint, keep your hands our of private bidness” conservatives totally pissed that the guvmint isn’t fixing BP (a private company, last I checked) f-up.

“we don’t want no regalations.”

chortle chortle