Yes, playing politics with Tomb of Unknown is offensive
On Memorial Day, Vice President Joe Biden will handle the somber duty of laying a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier at Arlington National Cemetery, while President Obama will mark the day at a national cemetery back home in Illinois.
A few hours ago, Erick Erickson, CNN’s house conservative and founder of Redstate.org, decided that this represented a political opportunity that he should not miss.
He tweeted:
“Obama skipping the Tomb of the Unknowns this weekend for Chicago is offensive. Chicago can wait. The Commander-in-Chief has a job to do.”
Pretty quickly, it was established that President Reagan had occasionally skipped annual duties at the Tomb.
As had President George H.W. Bush.
As had the more recent President Bush.
Caught red-handed, Erickson has just responded with another tweet:
“Diff b/w Reagan and Bush not going to Tomb and Obama? No one questioned their support for soldiers and belief in American Exceptionalism.”
Man oh man.
In itself, the incident is of little import. You could file it under IOKIYAR — “It’s OK if You Are Republican” — and forget about it. But I note it because it reflects all too well the childishness and pettiness that has come to infect American politics. Really, is this the best we can do? Has the capacity to feel shame disappeared?
But there’s also something deeper here. Erickson, Glenn Beck and others have tried to use this as an excuse to attack a president they don’t like. Fine, they don’t like him. But in trying to politicize a sacred national rite, haven’t they done precisely what they accuse Obama of doing? Is the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier really just another ground from which to launch political attacks?
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Jay
May 25th, 2010
8:09 pm
Hey Chupa, change your sig. Your name forces me to approve your post every time.
theyeshaveit
May 25th, 2010
8:12 pm
MadeInAmerica said Obama should WANT to attend the Laying of the Wreaths on Memorial Day. His loathing of America is evident in all that he does from bowing to foreign dictators to betraying our greatest ally, Israel. He is a complete and utter disgrace to our great nation.
Loathing of America? A disgrace? How would you know? Or perhaps your views were “Made On AM Radio”?
Mick
May 25th, 2010
8:13 pm
Here’s a thought; One could argue that president obama is one of the most courageous people in america. Four times the amount of death threats than bush. All it takes is one loon to pull it off. Don’t think it could happen? Kennedy. So, just think what it must be like to take on the problems of america and the world, then have that thought in the back of your mind any time you appear in public. To all you people that mock the man who is president, and for letting the vice-president handle it; obama might just be calculating that this is the one place where biden can be seen and heard – all bets are off on that..
officer and a gentleman
May 25th, 2010
8:17 pm
“Unless he could have gotten an ….ahem, “part time” assignment in the Illinois Air National Guard…”
Yeah, right…
Obama butt kisser.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
May 25th, 2010
8:18 pm
It’s rather astonishing that an administration that has taken upon itself to micromanage banks, auto makers and health insurers has allowed an oil company to flay about for more than a month, sprinkling dispersant and dropping virtually useless rubber barriers in an effort to hold back the gooey tide.-BostonGlobe
You reckon?
Ooops, tax me!
josef nix
May 25th, 2010
8:19 pm
@@
at 7:58
A good read…thanks…
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
May 25th, 2010
8:21 pm
Uh oh, duh heat is on-
Republicans and Democrats pressured the White House on Tuesday to disclose whether it offered a federal job to Pennsylvania Rep. Joe Sestak if he would drop his Senate primary challenge against Democratic incumbent Arlen Specter.
Impeach obozo now!
theyeshaveit
May 25th, 2010
8:22 pm
Scout’s Dishonor, Jay busted you with your fabrication regarding President Obama’s visit to West Point. Shame on you. Really it was shameful. Have you no regard for honor?
Gale
May 25th, 2010
8:22 pm
FWIW, I agree. The president should lay the wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown in Arlington on Memorial day. We are at war and service men and women are dieing,
Also, thanks Hillbilly and Del for the rifle data below, It was very interesting.
Saul Good
May 25th, 2010
8:25 pm
I report…. how long it take “us” to put out the burning oil wells that Saddam set aflame? How much of OUR tax dollars were spent doing it? Look it up…
(btw…how many of OUR troops were stationed at the oil fields the second we entered Iraq… also how many were stationed in Afghanistan the second we arrived to “protect” the natural gas lines)?
I recall Cheney saying that the oil in Iraq would pay for the whole cost of our “invasion” though just under THEIR watch the cost in Iraq alone was over a trillion dollars….
You reckon?
@@
May 25th, 2010
8:27 pm
eyes:
Sycophant would get me into less trouble? Trouble is my middle name. Not afraid of trouble.
Would you prefer the expression “brown noser”?
“brown noser” would be most fitting considering how closely behind they follow jay’s “comments”. It’s most unbecoming, but that’s just my opinion. Staring at “the moon” can blind one to their own shortcomings.
Mysteries of the Universe, Solved:
If I’m not mistaken, chickens eat their own poo.
I’m not asking you to, but I’m willing to take a chance to support the fisherman. Moral support is a good thing.
Hillbilly Deluxe
May 25th, 2010
8:33 pm
If I’m not mistaken, chickens eat their own poo.
Never paid any attention to that but I’ve seen dogs dine on cow droppings many times.
When the Exxon Valdez had it’s spill, there was a finite amount of oil to be spilled. With this well, theoretically at least, it could be infinite. What do we do if it’s the same as today 30 days from now? 60 days? 90 days? 6 months? a year?
Mysteries of the Universe, Solved
May 25th, 2010
8:33 pm
If I’m not mistaken, chickens eat their own poo.
That’s because it takes multiple passes to digest that Monsanto corn. They eat their corn-fed young too. As for Morton’s fishermen, they’ll be well compensated in their new careers as oil skimmers until they can fish again.
theyeshaveit
May 25th, 2010
8:33 pm
@@, well then, should I see you indulging in any sort of sycophancy in future, I will just tap out “brown noser” on my keyboard.
josef nix
May 25th, 2010
8:34 pm
checking out early…last day of school for the kiddies and they wo’ me down to a low thin gravy…
theyeshaveit
May 25th, 2010
8:35 pm
josef, take care, teach.
godless heathen
May 25th, 2010
8:36 pm
Spirited debate tonight. Obama is effin up enough with trying to make an issue out of him skipping a ceremony at Arlington on Memorial Day. This kind of crap just distracts from the real issues and doesn’t mean a thing. If Obama needs to go to Chicago and rig some elections, then that’s what he needs to do.
Hillbilly Deluxe
May 25th, 2010
8:37 pm
Actually chickens take into their gullet very small gravel. It’s to aid in digestion, since they don’t have the Rolls Royce of digestive systems.
theyeshaveit
May 25th, 2010
8:38 pm
Hillbilly, I think that I have taken in some of that gravel at KFC. Now, I know why.
DoggoneGA
May 25th, 2010
8:43 pm
“With this well, theoretically at least, it could be infinite”
Not even theoretically. It could potentially be a LOT, but never-ending? Nope. Because if it WAS we could drill a new well into the reserve and shut down every other well on earth and never have to worry about fuel ever again. Not even close.
DoggoneGA
May 25th, 2010
8:45 pm
“Actually chickens take into their gullet very small gravel. It’s to aid in digestion, since they don’t have the Rolls Royce of digestive systems”
The gravel is only an aid to digestion in the same way teeth are. ALL birds eat appropriate sized stones to help break up their food, since they can’t chew it.
stands for decibels
May 25th, 2010
8:46 pm
Since nobody else has mentioned it, I feel it is important to note that the gentleman who is the subject of Jay’s post, Erick Erickson, is the same individual who, upon learning that Justice Souter would be retiring, felt motivated to tweeted that “the nation loses the only goat f–king child molester to ever serve on the supreme court.”
(This was shortly before The Most Trusted Name In News decided to hire him.)
Jay
May 25th, 2010
8:47 pm
I’ve seen an outer-limit estimate of what that reservoir would hold. I forget the number, but I do remember thinking it was very large. As I vaguely recall, it would take more than a few months but less than a year.
And by then…
Hillbilly Deluxe
May 25th, 2010
8:47 pm
the eyes
I wouldn’t be surprised. I try to avoid the Colonel at all costs.
Earlier downstairs, somebody was talking about using sheep/goats to eradicate Kudzu. That works pretty good on the vines and leaves but if the roots are very old, they won’t kill it completely. I have seen roots on kudzu, that has been there several years, as big as my forearm and that’s no exaggeration. Large doses of chicken manure will kill it, if it is hot and dry but if it rains on it, you’re in bad way. It’ll act like fertilizer.
I was hearing today, on GA Network news, that a teenage boy somewhere in GA, has come up with a way to inject kudzu with helium and kill it. He’s patented some sort of device to do it. If it works, he’s going to make Bill Gates look like a panhandler.
Chris Salzmann
May 25th, 2010
8:52 pm
May 25th, 2010 7:50 pm SAID: “CHRIS SAYS: I then feel sorry for your better half because, in your opinion, apologizing, is a sign of weakness.”
Chris, you are a left-wing a$$ who doesn’t know one thing about me (or for that matter, many others). You generalize to the extreme in everything you post, and try to tell people what they said or typed when you are completely in error. You leap to unfounded conclusions about anyone you disagree with.
I do NOT consider apologizing as a sign of weakness. However, I consider apologizing unnecessarily as a weakness. When Hope & Change issues a blank apology on foreign soil for his perception that this country has been “arrogant” in the past, without stating any specifics, he his weakening us in the eyes of the world.
Now maybe if you’d open your eyes about some of the shortcomings of this President and use your brain for something other than separating your ears from one another, you can learn to learn about other views and other ideas.
Otherwise, you’re a waste of time and oxygen.
CHRIS SAYS: So what did Obama apologize unnecessarily for? Frankly, its about time an administration came around and stopped epitomizing the Ugly American which is what we were during 8 years of Bush under his “If you aren’t with us, you are against us” doctrine. Frankly, you are the kind of nationalistic and jingoistic idiots that cheered this country from one disaster to another and kept clapping for an encore. You don’t know squat. Broaden your mind because its closed like a steel trap. I’d rather be an open minder a$$ then a close minded and ignorant idiot!
Chupacabra
May 25th, 2010
8:55 pm
Ughhhhhhh.
I say nuke the leak anyway Jay.
How ’bout “Chupa Tea Partiest”?
BillyGee
May 25th, 2010
8:56 pm
What a santimonious sack of garbage, Jay. You and your friends spent eight years attacking Bush at every possible turn in the foulest terms imaginable. You are a just a hypocrite crybaby.
Chupacabra
May 25th, 2010
8:59 pm
Jay – Does anybody get it or do they only want to vomit?
AmVet
May 25th, 2010
8:59 pm
“Obama butt kisser.”
I voted against him, Bush butt kisser…
David
May 25th, 2010
8:59 pm
Erickson is a lying scumbag who falsely accused former Supreme Court Justice David Souter of molesting children and having sex with goats. He also may be sued for libel by falsesly accusing macon’s honorable spas of sex trafficking. He is a liar and a Limbaugh Wannabe. Ignore him!
Chupacabra
May 25th, 2010
9:04 pm
Does anybody think Term Limits for Congress is a bad idea?
@@
May 25th, 2010
9:06 pm
eyes:
I will just tap out “brown noser” on my keyboard.
Feel free, but you’ll never catch me following too closely behind the host.
Chupacabra
May 25th, 2010
9:07 pm
Jay – your moderation is understood but I’m not here to start a revolution in the streets. Please let me post.
Scout
May 25th, 2010
9:08 pm
Jay, et al:
I am working on more research but for now this is for your edification:
1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIHz5tevLAw (Bush vs. Barry with the Marines)
2) What’s Cut from Obama’s West Point Speech Says Much About Him
May 23, 2010 By Warner Todd Huston
“Drudge has an interesting little snippet concerning President Obama’s recent speech before the graduating class at West Point. It is a short headline about what was cut from Obama’s speech, a cut that really says a lot about the arrogance of team Obama as well as his utter lack of spontaneity and sincerity and his slavish reliance on the teleprompter.
Here’s the little snippet on Drudge:
Tepid applause from cadets: Cuts ‘That’s a lot of cheering’ line from prepared remarks…
So let’s let this straight. Obama actually had written into his speech ahead of time that there was to be “a lot of cheering”? This man who campaigned against the work of these soldiers to be, this man from a party that has called these soldiers murderers, criminals, dullards, and dangerous, these folks were expected to give this president “a lot of cheering”? Obama really expected a lot of cheering from folks he and his party hate so much?
3) Donning a slapstick stance, Obama said the following:
“To the United States Corps of Cadets, and most of all, the Class of 2010 – it is an honor to serve as your Commander-in-Chief. Under our constitutional system, my power as President is wisely limited. But there are some areas where my power is absolute. And so, as your Commander-in-Chief, I hereby absolve all cadets who are on restriction for minor conduct offenses. That’s a lot of cheering. So I’ll leave the definition of “minor” to those who know better.”
Due to lack of cheering, Obama supposedly skipped over, “That’s a lot of cheering,” but left Bush’s joke about leaving “the definition of ‘minor’ to those who know better.” Obama’s remark was reportedly met with a tepid response.
4) On Obama’s Speech at West Point:
Yes, I watched U.S. President Barack Obama give the commencement speech at West Point yesterday and the response from the cadets was all the commentary I needed. There was very little applause and that applause was tepid, hesitant, scattered. There was no yelling, whopping it up, no shout-outs from the cadets to support what the Commander in Chief was saying. He basically belittled them and touted the role of diplomats in the future peace of this nation. You can do a search and find articles from far left and far right and everywhere in the middle dissecting the speech down to the last word, but watch it for yourself, watch the cadets, listen for the applause.
As The Drudge Report notes, “Tepid applause from cadets: Cuts ‘That’s a lot of cheering’ line from prepared remarks…” That’s right, because there was no cheering during Obama’s speech.
@@
May 25th, 2010
9:09 pm
I was gonna say I’d just-a-soon Joe go, but then I thought “it’s a solemn occasion”. Surely he’ll keep his mouth shut.
godless heathen
May 25th, 2010
9:13 pm
Since the topic has strayed to the oil spill. We have this statement from the EPA head Carol Browner: “All decisions about the clean up, all decisions about shutting down the well are being run through the federal government. The federal government is in charge.”
Well there you go. Looks like BP stands for Barack’s Problem.
Scout
May 25th, 2010
9:13 pm
Chris Matthews on West Point earlier in the year:
“It seems like in this case, there isn’t a lot of excitement,” Matthews said. “I watched the cadets, they were young kids – men and women who were committed to serving their country professionally it must be said, as officers. And, I didn’t see much excitement. But among the older people there, I saw, if not resentment, skepticism. I didn’t see a lot of warmth in that crowd out there. The president chose to address tonight and I thought it was interesting. He went to maybe the enemy camp tonight to make his case.
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jeff-poor/2009/12/01/matthews-calls-west-point-sight-obama-speech-enemy-camp-strange-venue#ixzz0ozfnIFAu
@@
May 25th, 2010
9:14 pm
Lawd! I just googled the new guy’s name. How about The Elmendorf Beast? Mangy Coyote?
Michael
May 25th, 2010
9:17 pm
Honestly, after having served for the last 10 years and having multiple deployments overseas, I really don’t care if it is the President or the Vice President laying the wreath at the Tomb. There are far more troubling things going on in this country like the fact that we keep allowing foriegn heads of state to come here and demean our country, with the support and applause of many in our own government.
Jay
May 25th, 2010
9:17 pm
Chupa, change your name and there’s no problem.
And Scout, so in other words, you got nothing to back up your claim. It would seem a retraction would be in order.
AmVet
May 25th, 2010
9:20 pm
Chupa, 12 years and adios.
Get done what you can get done and then get gone…
Scout
May 25th, 2010
9:20 pm
Jay:
From you ? ……………….. the King of non-retraction or ignore the question/point when you’re backed into a corner ?
LOL !
“Was he not booed at West Point because the Corps of Cadets (student body) all agreed with him? No. He was not booed at West Point because prior to Obama’s speech, the Commandant of Cadets ordered them to applaud enthusiastically and to refrain from any “political” response to the speech…..”
godless heathen
May 25th, 2010
9:21 pm
++1 to what Michael said.
Mick
May 25th, 2010
9:21 pm
Scout
So what’s your point, that graduating cadets don’t like the president? It’s silly stuff.
AmVet
May 25th, 2010
9:22 pm
The blogger formerly known as Chimichanga,
12 years and adios.
Get done what you can get done and then get gone…
AmVet
May 25th, 2010
9:23 pm
Scout, STAND DOWN.
And quit disgracing yourself further.
Scout
May 25th, 2010
9:24 pm
Try to watch this if you can stand it ………. quite informative.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXeTSAJIMRU
@@
May 25th, 2010
9:24 pm
Just so the new guy knows…Mangy Coyote was, in no way, intended as an insult.
@@
May 25th, 2010
9:25 pm
I see the brown nosers have arrived.
dave
May 25th, 2010
9:27 pm
DoggoneGA – he has the CMH, don’t get no braver than that! But, it is beyond your understanding. You are what you are…
Nuke the oil spill
May 25th, 2010
9:27 pm
Every hour that goes by we could have solved the oil mess in our country’s history.
I don’t give damn who to hang right now but I just want it closed down NOW!
Nobody has a way out of this fiasco except the Russians.
Great…. Now we can depend on them to launch our heavy space items and they can save our beaches too……
@@
May 25th, 2010
9:27 pm
Make that brown noser, singular.
AmVet
May 25th, 2010
9:28 pm
Followed closely by the blue nosing leg humper!
Nuke the oil spill
May 25th, 2010
9:29 pm
typos…. bear with me… I have to multitask to make a living….
Mick
May 25th, 2010
9:31 pm
Scout@9:24 pm
Thanks for the link; couldn’t find one fam dam thing wrong with it….
@@
May 25th, 2010
9:34 pm
Heraclitus just admitted to having his nose where it don’t belong.
Schnirt
Scout
May 25th, 2010
9:34 pm
Mick:
Try this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIHz5tevLAw
Matt
May 25th, 2010
9:38 pm
Well this is the same guy who called the retiring Justice Souter a goat-fornicating child molester. This seems pretty tame for him, honestly.
Scout: Looks like someone has been catching up on some Neal’s Nuze!
getalife
May 25th, 2010
9:38 pm
Is he that good ole boy from Macon, Ga.?
Mick
May 25th, 2010
9:39 pm
Scout
My friend, obama was giving a commencement address. The video with bush was hilarious, tell me what did he do to earn their respect?
Scout
May 25th, 2010
9:41 pm
Matt:
Yep. Maybe that is where I saw it. I read a lot of news everyday.
Did you ever see this one ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIHz5tevLAw
Scout
May 25th, 2010
9:42 pm
Matt:
No one is perfect but those cadets just know who is sincere and who is not.
@@
May 25th, 2010
9:46 pm
OUCH! Stark contrast in the military’s reception.
Matt
May 25th, 2010
9:47 pm
Yes, Erikson is a city council-member in Macon (and you think Atlanta has race issues).
He is famous because of his blog although he did fill in for former WSB host Chris Krok on the local AM station in Macon.
mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack the Liar Obama - BEND OVER, Here comes the CHANGE!
May 25th, 2010
9:49 pm
Who cares, what NObama does Memorial Day – his day of honor was MAY DAY.
Anti-lib
May 25th, 2010
9:49 pm
I agree with Joan, I would rather the current president not lay the wreath on the tomb…….he hate’s America and should not have anything to do remotely patriotic. He’s an embarrassment to this country!
Mick
May 25th, 2010
9:50 pm
Scout
Have you ever been to a commencement ceremony? Bush is a better ex-president then he ever was as president. Big deal marines….I bet obama could bring down the house with the navy.
Mick
May 25th, 2010
9:53 pm
anti
**He’s an embarrassment to this country!**
He could be doing a better job, but an embarassment? Not so much.
Scout
May 25th, 2010
9:57 pm
Mick:
You are sooooo right ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InBXu-iY7cw
Scout
May 25th, 2010
9:58 pm
…………. and here you go !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elsxa65L_Bk
mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack the Liar Obama - BEND OVER, Here comes the CHANGE!
May 25th, 2010
10:02 pm
Mick, Sorry, embarasment is not harsh enough for the LIAR in Chief. Douche bag comes to mind.
Betty Boop
May 25th, 2010
10:07 pm
Scout, You deserve a dishonorable discharge from this blog.
Paul Harvey
May 25th, 2010
10:08 pm
Hmmmm…..Would it change the context of Obama skipping the Memorial Day ceremony if you had added he was getting back to town later that day for a Paul McCartney concert?
And now you know…….the rest of the story.
Mick
May 25th, 2010
10:08 pm
Scout
That’s the best you can do? Hero worship is a sin.
mmm…..I think you needed to get it out…..do you feel better?
Jay
May 25th, 2010
10:12 pm
Scout, tonight you’ve made it clear to everybody here that you do not live by the values that you espouse. You have made a blatantly false accusation against someone, an act that violates both your faith and your Marine honor, and have refused to acknowledge it.
I know what a man of honor would do. I see what you have done.
And we’ll leave it at that.
Mick
May 25th, 2010
10:15 pm
Jay – don’t expect any humility on blogosphere. How easy it is to be the master of your own domain, its the perfect forum for no accountability.
96 SC
May 25th, 2010
10:18 pm
Unknown infers the gender, race, and personal character is not relevant. This is simply a symbol to a warmongering nation, who will practice violence on each other if a suitable victim is not available.
md
May 25th, 2010
10:20 pm
“md,
I like the way you sidestepped my point about historical knowledge and bigoted smears.
The fact that some whites voted for Obama doesn’t excuse the bigotry of others or ignorance
about the sacrifices of black patriots for our great country.”
Sidestepped??
Your post said racism was at the heart of the problem, which is incorrect. It may well be at the fringes, but not anywhere near the heart.
Mr. Snarky
May 25th, 2010
10:24 pm
Erikson knows offensive. He specializes in it. Fortunately, we do have a President who questions American Exceptionalism. Which is really just a sanctimonious license to invade…exactly what the far right wants.
Matt
May 25th, 2010
10:24 pm
Yeah, I’d love to read an officers FITREP after they refused to shake the president’s hand. Oh man.
AU H2O
May 25th, 2010
10:28 pm
Big Difference between Reagan, GW 41, and Obama. Our 40th and 41st missed the Memorial Day visit to the tomb of the unknown because they were both on official duty elsewhere. Obama is missing it because he is taking a vacation, his second since the oil spill started. Must be nice golf weather out in Chicago or something pressing like that.
md
May 25th, 2010
10:33 pm
“There are far more troubling things going on in this country like the fact that we keep allowing foriegn heads of state to come here and demean our country, with the support and applause of many in our own government.”
“Many” is an understatement when the entire democratic party gave the man a standing ovation for what amounts to them not doing their jobs.
Mr. Snarky
May 25th, 2010
10:37 pm
“It is ludicrous to make — or believe — such a claim.”
Jay, lies is all they got…they pull stuff out of their orifices, throw it out there and hope it sticks,
It’s pathetic, really.
Check the facts
May 25th, 2010
10:43 pm
George HW Bush showed up for all Memorial Days except one. He got shot down in WWII so he gets a pass.
Bill Clinton made it to all 8 in his term.
GWB missed one because he was at Normandy.
Barack needs to make this gig. Oh yeah… He needs to make this gig every year of his presidency.
Mysteries of the Universe, Solved
May 25th, 2010
10:46 pm
The hatred that must brew deep in the hearts and souls of some… A mystery that may never be solved.
Evan
May 25th, 2010
10:51 pm
Oh yes here we go, because Erickson points out the absolutely obvious, he is now a biggoted racist and needs to be shut down like Glenn Beck. Sometimes I wander if liberals and progressives understand how incredibly stupid they sound when the answer to every question about this president or his policies is either “Your a Racist” or “Its Bush’s Fault”. We do not hate Obama, although we could stand to see his mug a little less on the TV (I swear if I hear one more story from a basketball court talking about his jumpshot i’m going to shoot myself), we hate the direction this country is moving in and policy after policy that the man proposes. THIS IS NOT THE EU AND WE WILL NOT STAND FOR IT. And anyone who calls Glenn Beck a racist obviously has not watched his show and just like the President of the United States and Attorney General and Big Sis who didn’t read the AZ bill and call it racist, are incredibly ignorant. WE ARE NOT STUPID….STOP TRYING TO BOLD FACE LIE TO OUR FACES ABOUT EVERY ISSUE THAT COMES UP AND THEN PLAY THE RACE CARD IN ORDER TO TRY AND MAKE THOSE THAT DISAGREE WITH YOU QUESTION THEIR CONVICTIONS BECAUSE OF FEAR OF BEING CALLED A RACIST. ITS NOT WORKING !!! Its an interesting gameplan from the Messiah himself, but it is obviously not working….On second thought, keep up the race baiting and labeling those who disagree with you as racist….because after the House is back in the hands of those who do not hate this country and want to see it succeed 2012 is going to roll around……………
And all of those middle of the road, conservative/independent white bigots, racists, gun clinging, god fearing, oil burning, freedom loving people who voted for Obama in 2008 (he would not have been elected if they had not voted for him) will not be fooled again by empty rhetoric and bold faced lies. All those people that voted for Obama due to the pure hatred and “SEDITION” (according to Barry’s lib Gov. in MA) aimed at Bush for 8 years and fear of the exact thing that is going right now…..being labled a racist. Please continue with this absolutely enlightend path straight out of the white house.
Dusty
May 25th, 2010
10:52 pm
Well, getting here late and this stuff is still amazing. Most amazing is Jay Bookman saying he does not remember Luckovich drawing anything against American military. WHAT??
As @@ and RW have named one cartoon, I hope it is the one I remember, the one where an American soldier was being roasted on a spit. Luckovich seemed to draw many things that depicted his feelings against America at war. He also drew Uncle Sam staring pitifully from behind prison bars and on and on with different ones. BUT BOOKMAN DOES NOT REMEMBER?
Selective memory indeed. Bookman scrutinizes words or signs that are said and done by conservatives but all unfortunate liberal leanings seem to slip his mind. Perhaps he thinks liberals never make a mistake. HIs followers here seem to have the same outlook. Ah well, they elected Obama so they are getting plenty of practice overlooking mistakes.
Matt
May 25th, 2010
10:55 pm
The inchoate hate shown towards Obama does remind me of what was done to GW Bush.
Was it this bad in the 80’s? My dad said that Tip O’Neill and Reagen got along off-camera. I think both sides have become more unglued.
Mr. Snarky
May 25th, 2010
11:00 pm
The best way Obama can show respect for the military and those who paid the ultimate price is not to abuse the military by sending more young men to their deaths for dumb, poorly executed, pre-emptive, unjustified wars as his predecessor did.
Anyone can lay a wreath on a tomb.
Dusty
May 25th, 2010
11:26 pm
Mr.Snarky,
You can lay your white flag aside now. Obama is doing exactly what George W. Bush did In Iraq and Afghanistan in case you haven’t noticed.
The only difference is that Bush told us what he was going to do and did it. Obama said he was going to do something different, bring the troops home etc. Then he did NOT do it.
Yep, anyone can lay a wreath on a tomb. Yes, and anyone can tell a lie and call it the truth. Or, .to be nice about it, you can say Obama did not lie, He changed his mind!!
Mr. Snarky
May 25th, 2010
11:42 pm
Dusty,
I don’t remember Obama invading any countries that didn’t attack us. So saying Obama has done what bush did is false.
True he hasn’t yanked the troops out. But then Obama did not say he would pull them all out as soon as he was out of office. He said he would bring them home as soon as possible when it made sense. People on the far right and left are so confused by that.
theyeshaveit
May 25th, 2010
11:54 pm
Scout’s Dishonor, shame on you. Where is the no hand shake evidence?
theyeshaveit
May 26th, 2010
12:03 am
Dusty, Do you remember Sadam’s weapons of mass destruction? Whose monumental lie was that? Yes, mam, your Dubya. And do you remember Dubya flying onto the deck of a carrier and announcing that the war was over? Whose lie was that? Yup. Dubya’s again.
Scout
May 26th, 2010
12:11 am
Jay:
“Scout, tonight you’ve made it clear to everybody here that you do not live by the values that you espouse. You have made a blatantly false accusation against someone, an act that violates both your faith and your Marine honor, and have refused to acknowledge it. I know what a man of honor would do. I see what you have done. And we’ll leave it at that.”
I guess you are still angry with me for the several times I caught you playing loose with the anti-gun statistics ……… and I’ll do so again if necessary.
But guess what …………… we WON’T leave tonight’s argument at that. Pontificate all you want.
1) I left you a great video showing the difference between Marine responses to Bush and Obama. The difference is astounding.
2) I left you Chris Matthews account of his going “into the enemy camp” at West Point back in December and the tepid response he got there.
3) I left you accounts of his “tepid” reception/applause at West Point this weekend and the fact that he had to “alter” a line from his speech due to the lack of “cheering”.
4) I read this weekend that some of the cadets had very quickly taken their diplomas and didn’t shake his hand. Unless the source you quoted stood there and watched all 1,000 cadets do it or not, his statement is just a general statement that “he shook all their hands”. That is not conclusive of anything at this point and your throwing that back at me is not impressive and it certainly does not carry the weight of evidence.
5) I am still trying to find that article and/or a video of the ENTIRE handshaking event. If, in fact he shook every hand in spite of the article I read, I will give him credit for that and retract my statement on that particular issue. Big deal.
6) You sir post blantant, biased, bigoted threads on this site weekly when you have much more access to the true facts than I do ……… so you sir (in a profession that is rated almost at the bottom of the ethical rung) are in no position to lecture me.
7) And as my Drill Instuctor always said, you wouldn’t make a decent pimple on a Marines ass !
So, you can take your pompous, hypocritical 10:12 post and you know what you can do with it.
Scout
May 26th, 2010
12:15 am
Dusty:
“BUT BOOKMAN DOES NOT REMEMBER?”
See my 12:11 am on Bookman.
Brett
May 26th, 2010
12:17 am
What else might one expect from a current REPunk?? The never-serveds. The flag-wavers. The shouters of phony words as “hero,” Patriot,”
“Family values,” “Jeesussah,” etc. Those people are a stench in the nostrils of the very word, “decency.” A sham & a shame for all that “Murcuh” once represented. Time to build concentration camps for the lot of these dysfunctional, dangerous social misfits.
Brett
May 26th, 2010
12:33 am
Ahh. We have “SCOUT.” Lecturing. The cloest thing to a “drill instructor” this woodchuck/clod ever encountered was his – mother. (A term I use euphemistically.) Another “Little Man.” We used to call them “Little wee-wee Boys.” And so they are. Another military hero. Another mythical tiny cretin creating a tough-guy “past” for him/itself.
Searching crazily for some sense of masculinity – without knowing the meaning. Weak and needy, these tiny people plunge onward midst their hatred and jealousy. Another example that an uneducated, dumb America is an easily preyed upon America. The arrogance of raw ignorance.
Lack the time, but would love to detail this pansy’s “duty stations.”
Scout
May 26th, 2010
12:39 am
Brett:
LOL !
Scout
May 26th, 2010
1:01 am
“Obama Snubs Nation’s Heroes, Becomes the First President to Skip Ball Honoring Medal of Honor Recipients in Over 50 Years”
………….. and now he is putting in the Jr. Varsity for Memorial Day.
stands for decibels
May 26th, 2010
6:06 am
For the record, I will be glad to visit Erick Erickson’s grave.