Yes, playing politics with Tomb of Unknown is offensive
On Memorial Day, Vice President Joe Biden will handle the somber duty of laying a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier at Arlington National Cemetery, while President Obama will mark the day at a national cemetery back home in Illinois.
A few hours ago, Erick Erickson, CNN’s house conservative and founder of Redstate.org, decided that this represented a political opportunity that he should not miss.
He tweeted:
“Obama skipping the Tomb of the Unknowns this weekend for Chicago is offensive. Chicago can wait. The Commander-in-Chief has a job to do.”
Pretty quickly, it was established that President Reagan had occasionally skipped annual duties at the Tomb.
As had President George H.W. Bush.
As had the more recent President Bush.
Caught red-handed, Erickson has just responded with another tweet:
“Diff b/w Reagan and Bush not going to Tomb and Obama? No one questioned their support for soldiers and belief in American Exceptionalism.”
Man oh man.
In itself, the incident is of little import. You could file it under IOKIYAR — “It’s OK if You Are Republican” — and forget about it. But I note it because it reflects all too well the childishness and pettiness that has come to infect American politics. Really, is this the best we can do? Has the capacity to feel shame disappeared?
But there’s also something deeper here. Erickson, Glenn Beck and others have tried to use this as an excuse to attack a president they don’t like. Fine, they don’t like him. But in trying to politicize a sacred national rite, haven’t they done precisely what they accuse Obama of doing? Is the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier really just another ground from which to launch political attacks?
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Chupacabra
May 25th, 2010
7:00 pm
Off Topic:
I was streaming a radio station today from Florida to my desk. The jock put these guys who know all about oil rigs and their engineering on a voice scrambler so they could say what they know about the gulf oil fiasco. Jay might know BTLS on CXR.
I heard a lot of BS… But one engineer really got my attention. At first I thought he was full of you know what but thank goodness for google. He’s telling the truth.
The Russians (who are the largest producers of oil in the world) know how and have stopped these kinds of accidents in the past. The solution isn’t pretty. From 1966 to 1979 they stopped 4 out of 5 using very small nuclear detonations at the site of the leak. Apparently the blast force will turn the sea floor over into a crater and seal the muthafrigger right up.
Now …. Let the haters begin. What’s worse? A small nuke over a mile down to stop this clusterfrack or continue on our present course?
We could have it closed in 12 hours.
Just thinkin’……..
Hillbilly Deluxe
May 25th, 2010
7:01 pm
RW @ 6:44
I have never seen the cartoon you are referring to but it appears to be from Jun 21, 2006, from what I found in a Google search. I found this but can’t find the actual cartoon.
http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/shared-blogs/ajc/luckovich/entries/2006/06/21/pot_to_kettle.html
Matilda
May 25th, 2010
7:04 pm
Johnny Reb: “Bosch, I will concede that point, however, it is my perception the majority of the Nation does not look upon Obama as being patriotic.”
I think you’ve identified a significant element in the problems we face today, or more specifically, why our problems are not being resolved at the rate we would like. What the heck does BEING PATRIOTIC mean, exactly? Let alone one person’s perception of that in another?
There are probably a million ways to define it, yet this abstract and entirely subjective concept is widely used to measure something that should be measured by actions and results. If “perceptions” rule instead of reality, I think we’re all in a lot of trouble. I wish people would stop trying to convince me how “patriotic” they are, and show me they can solve a problem or make the community a better place to live.
Chupacabra
May 25th, 2010
7:04 pm
If Jay lets my comment go I have one more addition.
If BP has to blow that leak up, they lose the rights to drill that oil field forever. Now maybe we understand why they are dragging their feet?
FunnyBone
May 25th, 2010
7:06 pm
I’m just glad that this Erick the Red was able to make me laugh. Otherwise, he would be another plain old Reepublican and other than sayin’ no, what good are they. And that is reetorical. I ain’t lookin’ for no Reepublican, no matter what you be callin’ yerself these days, to answer that.
Cynthina T.
May 25th, 2010
7:08 pm
Obama and Biden both walk on water.
They turn water into wine and make America shine.
Jay
May 25th, 2010
7:09 pm
@@, I see your point. I don’t entirely agree with it, but … I see where you’re coming from re; the cartoons. On the casket cartoon, I do think its wrong to criticize on the basis of something that wasn’t even published. That’s what the editing process is for, and everyone in this business relies on it to pull you back from the edge (that’s partly why blogging is a little scary, because that editing process isn’t there. You’re working without a net.)
I honestly don’t recall the AQ cartoon; as described, I agree it should have been withdrawn or at least revised, as it apparently was.
Scout
May 25th, 2010
7:10 pm
Personally, I don’t want “Private” Obama near the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, the Vietnam Wall or any other military site or monument. He and his ilk loathe the military and use them only for their political purposes. They are doing things right now to weaken it ……….. dropping DADT for starters.
You have seen this before and you will see it again for it fits perfectly …………..
“Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say ‘what should be the reward of such sacrifices?’ … If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands, which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!”
Samuel Adams
jconservative
May 25th, 2010
7:11 pm
If joan reflects the opinion of the Tea party, then the Tea Party is in deep trouble. Hopefully enough Tea Party types leave personality at the slop trough and concentrate on the two problems that created their cause, unbridled spending for 30 straight years coupled with unbridled tax cuts for the same 30 years.
You know it is really elementary. If you take in income of $100.00, then cut it by $20.00 and then spend $120.00 you will soon be in trouble. This is what the USA has done since 1981. And I am sure it was with joan’s full endorsement.
But if personality & political affiliation is more important than political facts, so be it. This is just another nail in the coffin of the USA. And the Tea Party has been a bust.
Who has been in charge for the past 30 years?????
Party.. Pres… House.. Senate
Repub.. 20….. 12….. 16
Demo… 9…… 17….. 13
Who has been in charge???? Incumbents!!!!!!!
Have a nice day!
Chris Salzmann
May 25th, 2010
7:11 pm
Jazzyk May 25th, 2010 6:51 pm SAID: There’s always been this not-so-subtle smear against African-Americans as not as patriotic as Whites. That’s at the heart of this latest dig at Obama. Never mind that the first person to die for America was a runaway slave in the Boston Massacre (1770) and that Blacks have fought and died in every American war since the revolution. Bigotry won’t be placated by facts.
CHRIS SAYS: JazzyK makes a good point. Was Bush or any other President ever smeared to this level from day one and have their patriotism questioned as our current President? Clinton was accused of being a draft dodger but never of being outright unpatriotic. Think about it…………….and BTW, I’m White.
Hillbilly Deluxe
May 25th, 2010
7:12 pm
(that’s partly why blogging is a little scary, because that editing process isn’t there. You’re working without a net.)
Perhaps, we should all wear helmets?
Dave R.
May 25th, 2010
7:13 pm
Chris, Clinton never went on the world apology tour, either.
Big difference.
Jay
May 25th, 2010
7:13 pm
As to nuking the Gulf …. oh man, I don’t think so. The Soviets didn’t do it in the ocean, did they? I mean, heavily radiated water flowing all over the globe, with a half life of 10,000 years, and a precedent set of a nuclear weapon as a tool?
What’s happening in the Gulf is a tragedy, and I understand the desperation. But a nuke?
And for what it’s worth, Jason — not much I’m afraid — Obama IS coming down there Friday.
@@
May 25th, 2010
7:13 pm
jay, only the title was revised, the image made the same point.
By the by….can I call your hounds leg humpers?
RW-(the original)
May 25th, 2010
7:15 pm
I honestly don’t recall the AQ cartoon; as described, I agree it should have been withdrawn or at least revised, as it apparently was.
Jay B,
The cartoon was never modified, just the name in the headline got changed late in the afternoon.
Gordon
May 25th, 2010
7:16 pm
“Is the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier really just another ground from which to launch political attacks?”
Kind of like this column?
josef nix
May 25th, 2010
7:17 pm
Scout
You’re going to get me riled on that…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willem_Arondeus
Note what he said in his last testament before his execution:
“Let it be known that homosexuals are not cowards.”
Jay
May 25th, 2010
7:18 pm
Please try not to, @@.
I know it’s been used by some, and at times I’ve pulled down those comments and at times left them up. But — and I’m not saying the description is valid — wouldn’t it be more classy to use a word such as “sycophant”?
Chris Salzmann
May 25th, 2010
7:18 pm
Jay May 25th, 2010 7:13 pm SAID: As to nuking the Gulf …. oh man, I don’t think so. The Soviets didn’t do it in the ocean, did they? I mean, heavily radiated water flowing all over the globe, with a half life of 10,000 years, and a precedent set of a nuclear weapon as a tool?
What’s happening in the Gulf is a tragedy, and I understand the desperation. But a nuke?
CHRIS SAID: People watch too many darned movies. Blowing things up usually does not solve all our problems. BTW, people are saying that the Federal government should take this whole process over regarding capping this leak. As much as I now hate BP, only they and the other oil companies have the expertise to fix this. The Federal folks don’t have the people with the expertise to resolve this.
Chupacabra
May 25th, 2010
7:18 pm
Jay – Blogging without a net is Freedom of Speech.
The press has had it for centuries but within the last few years We The People can speak in public forums all over the world.
20 years ago we were all dependent upon ABC, NBC, CBS, The New York Times and The Washington Post. Those outlets failed to understand the technical ramifications of the internet revolution. People can speak without fear and with passion here on the internet. They media that can’t understand 24/7/365 is doomed.
md
May 25th, 2010
7:19 pm
“JazzyK makes a good point.”
No s/he doesn’t. Racism is most certainly an issue with a percentage of people (and that goes many ways), but the “heart” it is not.
That broad brush doesn’t fly.
Jay
May 25th, 2010
7:19 pm
Well, if it was the headline, Mike had no knowledge or control over that. He just draws the cartoon itself and leaves the rest to others.
Chris Salzmann
May 25th, 2010
7:21 pm
Dave R. May 25th, 2010 7:13 pm SAID: Chris, Clinton never went on the world apology tour, either.
CHRIS SAYS: He didn’t do that because this country has nothing to apologize for? Is that your point? Frankly, as a nation, to never admit that we have made mistakes that have cost lives is sycophantic.
Big difference.
N-GA
May 25th, 2010
7:22 pm
F.Stinkwich – I believe that President Obama is NOT ashamed of his country, but you certainly seem to be
Yet we should all be ashamed,,,,,ashamed of the war begun by Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld. Ashamed of their blatant disregard of the American voter while they sucked up to big oil, Halliburton, Blackwater, big banks, rich folks, Enron, etc. But at least I never voted for him…..EVER! Of that I am proud!
RW-(the original)
May 25th, 2010
7:22 pm
Here’s a blast from the past. I had to resurrect ml After Dark to post the original cartoon. Look fast because the AJC goon squad will be all over me to take this back down.
Jay
May 25th, 2010
7:23 pm
I meant that from my end, Chupa. Anything I write for the paper gets seen by three or four other pairs of eyes before it’s published. Here on the blog, I write it and publish it, no review.
Of course, everyone on the Net does that. But as the blog “proprietor,” I am properly held to a much higher standard than those who post here. So there’s a tension there that I personally have to be aware of.
Scout
May 25th, 2010
7:23 pm
josef:
No one ever said that homosexuals are cowards. Some of their murders are the mostly grizzly ones performed. They can be brutal. The point is that have served, they are serving and they will serve. Those of us who find their actions and lifestyle repulsive just want them to keep it to themselves and not flaunt it.
Mysteries of the Universe, Solved
May 25th, 2010
7:23 pm
What comes after @@? ##
Hillbilly Deluxe
May 25th, 2010
7:23 pm
As to nuking the Gulf …. oh man, I don’t think so. The Soviets didn’t do it in the ocean, did they?
Jay
I can’t verify it but according to things I’ve heard, it was in the ocean. I’ve looked to verify it or disprove it and have been unable to.
I wonder if a very large non-nuclear explosion would have the same effect?
Chupacabra
May 25th, 2010
7:23 pm
Yeah Jay – The Soviets did it. So did we.
C’mon – you’ve seen the movies from the late 40’s and 50’s.
Dozens of nukes have been detonated under water but not for decades. The ocean is actually big enough to take it… yuck but true.
Got a better suggestion?
RW-(the original)
May 25th, 2010
7:24 pm
Oh, and you can just click the cartoon to enlarge it.
@@
May 25th, 2010
7:24 pm
Here’s the Al Qaeda cartoon, jay. Read about the public’s displeasure.
http://www.mcculloughsite.net/stingray/2006/06/22/mike-luckovich-a-cartoon-you-will-not-believe.php
Jay
May 25th, 2010
7:25 pm
Thanks RW.
That headline was:
A. Very wrong.
B. Nothing Mike had anything to do with.
In fact, maybe I’m wrong here, but I have a vague memory that after that, the cartoons were posted without a headline on them. Is that correct?
Chupacabra
May 25th, 2010
7:25 pm
Respect to Jay – understood.
Scout
May 25th, 2010
7:25 pm
Headline Obama: “‘PLUG THE DAMN HOLE!’
I wonder if he was he talking about the oil spill or DADT ?
Jay
May 25th, 2010
7:25 pm
Scout, your obsession is showing again.
Bob Newhart
May 25th, 2010
7:25 pm
Any truth to the rumor the unknown soldier was gay?
Bob Newhart
May 25th, 2010
7:26 pm
Scout,
Did you order the code red?
Chris Salzmann
May 25th, 2010
7:26 pm
md May 25th, 2010 7:19 pm SAYS:
“JazzyK makes a good point.”
No s/he doesn’t. Racism is most certainly an issue with a percentage of people (and that goes many ways), but the “heart” it is not.
That broad brush doesn’t fly.
CHRIS SAYS: Then we agree to disagree. I find it interesting that the same folks who accuse our current President of being “unpatriotic” have no problems excusing previous Presidents for mistakes that cost this country thousands of lives and trillions of dollars.
Hillbilly Deluxe
May 25th, 2010
7:28 pm
RW @ 7:22
I can’t read the caption on that. If I enlarge it, it blurs.
josef nix
May 25th, 2010
7:28 pm
Scout
And I understand your citation of your religious beliefs and traditions, but allow me the same priviledge. The Gerrit van der Veen Synagoge, Orthodox, in Amsterdam is named for the founder of the underground cell composed largely of Amsterdam homosexuals…
Jazz
May 25th, 2010
7:28 pm
The difference is that Reagan and Bush were not able to attend because of their prior job related commitments, not because they chose to go on vacation. This is shameful.
Dave R.
May 25th, 2010
7:29 pm
“CHRIS SAYS: He didn’t do that because this country has nothing to apologize for? Is that your point?”
No, Chris, and if you think that, your reading comprehension skills need more work than even I thought they did.
However, while we can agree that there are certain things this nation could and should apologize for, Hope & Change has certainly gone overboard in his efforts to marginalize us across the globe with his seemingly endless apologies when traveling abroad.
Hillbilly Deluxe
May 25th, 2010
7:29 pm
@@, RW
OK, I can see it now. In my opinion, it crossed the line.
@@
May 25th, 2010
7:30 pm
jay:
I hate the buzz words people use around here. “Sycophant” is one of ‘em.
I would never call someone a leg humper. It’s beneath me.
Wouldn’t call anyone a b*tch either. That too is beneath me.
RW-(the original)
May 25th, 2010
7:30 pm
Jay B,
I think the cartoon was very wrong no matter what the headline said. After that headlines came and went, but even when they had none there was a name contained within the URL of the blog post that somebody came up with so they all had a name. Incidentally, the URL for Pot to Kettle didn’t change when the new headline appeared.
Balance Our Budget
May 25th, 2010
7:30 pm
Why do hardly hear a word about Gitmo still being open?When Bush was President the libs were all up in arms over that place.The world supposedly no longer liked America because of it.When Obama became President he promised to shut it down within a year.Does the silence of the libs and inaction of Obama mean Bush was right?Its really hilarious to watch Obama continue doing some of the things that libs disliked most about Bush.
Jay
May 25th, 2010
7:30 pm
So Jazz, Reagan and Bush weren’t able to look at the calendar and say, “Gee, Memorial Day is coming up? Maybe I should stay in town?”
Jay
May 25th, 2010
7:31 pm
Me too, @@
Scout
May 25th, 2010
7:33 pm
josef:
And your point is? Judas was also a disciple!
“Not everyone who calls Me Lord, Lord shall enter the Kingdom of Heaven.”
AmVet
May 25th, 2010
7:33 pm
“Did you order the code red?”
LOLOL.
Some here clearly have multiple “personalities”. Some others are as typecast as Leonard Nimoy.
And the rest at us just laugh and say vive la différence.
(Nuking the friggin Gulf??? Jeez, Louise…)
Chris Salzmann
May 25th, 2010
7:34 pm
Dave R. May 25th, 2010 7:29 pm SAYS: Hope & Change has certainly gone overboard in his efforts to marginalize us across the globe with his seemingly endless apologies when traveling abroad.
CHRIS SAYS: Then its interesting that internationally, the perception of the US has changed from negative to a strong positive. Maybe I don’t know what you understand marginalize to mean?
Mysteries of the Universe, Solved
May 25th, 2010
7:34 pm
Battles are fought but wars are won or lost.
Saul Good
May 25th, 2010
7:34 pm
Scout: “He and his ilk loathe the military and use them only for their political purposes.”
Really? I guess Bush and Cheney (ya know…those two WAR HEROS who both served honorably in their youth) didn’t use the military for political purposes. In fact, that is exactly what they did… I mean REALLY NOW?! UGH! So please explain to us all how Obama has used the military for a political purpose. Following the recommendations of our nations military leaders must be a “political purpose”…. Sending troops into Iraq because of the “threat” they had to us and the rest of the world at large…not so much.
Scout
May 25th, 2010
7:34 pm
Bob Newhart :
No. It was called a “blanket party” back then. Trap the guy in his bunk in the middle of the night and everyone gets a good punch in. No worse for the wear and tear and “highly movtivated” the next day.
josef nix
May 25th, 2010
7:35 pm
Scout
@ 7:23
With all due respect, just keep in mind that your third person is my first person…
Scout
May 25th, 2010
7:36 pm
Saul Good:
…………… and his salute is so wimpy looking.
Chupacabra
May 25th, 2010
7:36 pm
Hillbilly – From what I heard today from those engineers and found thru my research it really does take a nuke. Not a “citybuster” nuke. Conventionals can’t get it down at that pressure. Back in the 50’s we had very small nuke munitions designed to fire from our long range artillery. They were designated as “battlefield” weapons…. ughhhhh… we actually did this, but one of these shells would get the gig finished.
Saul Good
May 25th, 2010
7:37 pm
Jay…Reagan and Bush didn’t have calenders… they had others look up the dates and holidays for them. Bush always liked to know when the big Easter Egg hunt was taking place on the WH lawn. Ronnie always wanted to be be told when the Oscars were on.
Dave R.
May 25th, 2010
7:37 pm
Chris, marginalize means that anything that makes us weaker, makes others stronger and increases their competitive power over us.
Guess what? Hope & Change’s job isn’t to make us weaker, in case you missed that.
Scout
May 25th, 2010
7:37 pm
josef:
Just stand tall, wear the uniform proudly and keep it to yourself.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
May 25th, 2010
7:38 pm
Well, well, I must say that I am impressed by obozo’s decision not to sully the honor of our brave fallen soldier by keeping his socialist ass away, along with not running that Marxist mouth whilst upon such hallowed ground.
Here, here, obozo, hat’s off.
Jazzyk
May 25th, 2010
7:38 pm
md,
I like the way you sidestepped my point about historical knowledge and bigoted smears.
The fact that some whites voted for Obama doesn’t excuse the bigotry of others or ignorance
about the sacrifices of black patriots for our great country.
Scout
May 25th, 2010
7:38 pm
“OFF TOPIC #1″
This is pretty good:
“The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the presidency. It will be easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails them. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.” Author Unknown
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
May 25th, 2010
7:39 pm
I blew that cartoon out of the water, the second I saw it.
Sarah Palin
May 25th, 2010
7:39 pm
“He and his ilk…”
I shoot ilk from my helicopter.
Bob Newhart
May 25th, 2010
7:39 pm
To bad purgatory doesn’t exist anymore, I’d rather hang out there in the afterlife instead of in heavan with the humorless religious right….
Chris Salzmann
May 25th, 2010
7:42 pm
Dave R. May 25th, 2010 7:37 pm SAID:
Chris, marginalize means that anything that makes us weaker, makes others stronger and increases their competitive power over us.
Guess what? Hope & Change’s job isn’t to make us weaker, in case you missed that.
CHRIS SAYS: I then feel sorry for your better half because, in your opinion, apologizing, is a sign of weakness. Must make for a heck of a household.
F-105 Thunderchief
May 25th, 2010
7:42 pm
Yeah, use a nuke in the Gulf. I love blackened redfish and grouper.
Mysteries of the Universe, Solved
May 25th, 2010
7:42 pm
BP will seal off the leak without using a nuke. Although, the prospect of Gulf Godzilla shrimp and the number of mouths just one would feed is worth consideration. I just hope they can get on shore on their own though because I don’t think those little shrimp boats were designed for anything that big.
Scout
May 25th, 2010
7:42 pm
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin… :
Exactly ………. it’s hallowed ground he and his ild have no business stepping on.
I guess you saw in the news the very tepid response he got at the West Point graduation not to mention that he had to drop the line from his remarks about “there’s a lot of cheering here” …….. because there wasn’t! Many cadets accepted their diplomas but refused to shake his hand.
Saul Good
May 25th, 2010
7:43 pm
Scout…so when the republicans picked Sarah out of ALL the other republicans in our nation to be a heart beat away from the presidency… THAT was the “best” they could come up with. Talk about “fools”… you can’t really do worse (except for maybe Dan Quayle…though at least he never “quit” pretty much everything he started…like 4 or 5 colleges to get a simple undergraduate degree and ummm….oh ya…being govna of a state with a population equal to a “small” city)…
Too bad you didn’t sign your name to your quote.
josef nix
May 25th, 2010
7:43 pm
JAY
@ 7:30
Which is my point precisely…I had the same feeling when they did it as I do here…
Scout–
The point is that if an Orthodox congregation, a breed who’s theological sexual mores make yours look liberal, can recognize the debt they owe to the homosexuals, it may well be a lesson for others of the more conservative faiths…
And don’t go playing the Judas card just yet…that’s a particularly touchy one with me and most of my fellow Jews and this is not the thread on which to go into it…but when the time comes, it’s one I’ll be glad to exchange opinions and perspectives with you on…
DoggoneGA
May 25th, 2010
7:44 pm
“So if Hope & Change had Sarah Palin do the honors next week, you’d be OK with that?”
Sure, why not? If I had my druthers though, I’d like every President to delegate the responsibility to an disabled serviceman or service woman
Eat Mor Chikin
May 25th, 2010
7:44 pm
I shoot ilk from my helicopter.
I thought you shot moo’s.
Scout
May 25th, 2010
7:46 pm
josef:
“Even Satan can disguise himself as an angel of light.”
Time for chow …………………
DoggoneGA
May 25th, 2010
7:47 pm
“But a nuke?”
Jay, NPR had a piece on this very subject a few days ago. The Russians exploded underground nukes…they had to drill down beside the blowing gas well to get them to the right place.
and, for whoever said they were “small” (or words to that effect) according to the NPR report they were at least twice as big as the ones dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Hillbilly Deluxe
May 25th, 2010
7:48 pm
Jay
If you’re still here, could you see what’s wrong with my 7:46/7:47, please?
theyeshaveit
May 25th, 2010
7:50 pm
joan said, I am glad he is not going. For him to go would be the height of hypocrisy. The man spits on all things American and is not fit to lay a wreath on the tomb of a brave man.
Joan, you are a real class act. When it is time to put flowers on your grave, I hope no one feels like spitting.
Dave R.
May 25th, 2010
7:50 pm
“CHRIS SAYS: I then feel sorry for your better half because, in your opinion, apologizing, is a sign of weakness.”
Chris, you are a left-wing a$$ who doesn’t know one thing about me (or for that matter, many others). You generalize to the extreme in everything you post, and try to tell people what they said or typed when you are completely in error. You leap to unfounded conclusions about anyone you disagree with.
I do NOT consider apologizing as a sign of weakness. However, I consider apologizing unnecessarily as a weakness. When Hope & Change issues a blank apology on foreign soil for his perception that this country has been “arrogant” in the past, without stating any specifics, he his weakening us in the eyes of the world.
Now maybe if you’d open your eyes about some of the shortcomings of this President and use your brain for something other than separating your ears from one another, you can learn to learn about other views and other ideas.
Otherwise, you’re a waste of time and oxygen.
Chupacabra
May 25th, 2010
7:51 pm
The Russians solved the problem. Their problem was is only worked 4 out of 5 times. 80% sounds pretty good at this point.
Jay
May 25th, 2010
7:52 pm
“Many cadets accepted their diplomas but refused to shake his hand.”
Scout, you claim to have been a Marine. Did they teach you anything about the concept of honor?
You claim to be a Christian. Do you remember the commandment about not bearing false witness?
I didn’t have to even look to know that was a lie. An absolute fabrication, invented because you and others like you need to invent such facts because real life doesn’t give you sufficient justification for your odd beliefs.
But you know what? I looked for proof anyway, and here it is, from Fox News no less:
“Their Commander-in-Chief personally handed out diplomas to top cadets and shook every graduate’s hand. After reciting their commission oath, there was one last task at hand, the traditional hat toss, high in the air and accompanied by children racing onto the field of Michie Stadium to claim their prize.”
Source: http://whitehouse.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/05/22/west-point-cadets-are-loyal-till-the-end/
Now. Maybe you would like to sound retreat?
Dave R.
May 25th, 2010
7:52 pm
And with that being said, the CBS lineup is all season finales tonight, so I must leave you to yourselves.
Later.
AmVet
May 25th, 2010
7:53 pm
Does the silence of the
libslambs and inaction of Obama mean Bush was right?No. Duh.
Its really
hilariouspathetic to watch Obama continue doing some of the things that libs disliked most about Bush. Also how the cons thought he was gonna be so very, very different.There. That’s better…
Yep, I’ll shore be glad when the rest of the world respects us like they use to a couple of years ago.
Alex, I’ll take clueless for $2000 please.
Saul Good
May 25th, 2010
7:56 pm
Dave R… it’s pretty well known that the majority of world leaders thought of Bush as a buffoon… while the “respect” Obama. It was HE who brought “respect” back to our nation… the whole world does not BOW down to us. This “empire” was fading anyway (as ALL empires do)….Bush and Co just sped up the process with their “go it alone” attitude. Difference between a “self made” man and one who failed at everything in life but still kept having everything handed to him… we see how well that worked out for us (and all the others around the globe who were harmed, or killed because of his inadequacies).
officer and a gentleman
May 25th, 2010
7:56 pm
WWOD?
Would Obama have EVER considered serving in the military of the United States?
Monty Python subtitler
May 25th, 2010
7:57 pm
A Møøse once bit my sister.
Chupacabra
May 25th, 2010
7:57 pm
Back on topic.
I grew up in Arlington, VA right across the Potomac from DC and about 2 miles from Arlington National Cemetery.
The POTUS should attend the Memorial Day Service NO MATTER WHAT!
Anybody who’s never been to Arlington can run their trap via keyboard, but to walk the grounds and see all the sacrifices made by those who’ve guaranteed our freedom to blog…..
I don’t care what POTUS skipped it before…. Anytime one of ‘em miss that gig is ULTIMATE FAIL !!!
MadeinAmerica
May 25th, 2010
7:58 pm
Obama should WANT to attend the Laying of the Wreaths on Memorial Day. His loathing of America is evident in all that he does from bowing to foreign dictators to betraying our greatest ally, Israel. He is a complete and utter disgrace to our great nation.
@@
May 25th, 2010
7:58 pm
My husband and I may need to take a little trip down to the gulf to support the seafood industry.
(CNN) — Gulf Coast chefs and fishing advocates claim, “Come on in; the water’s fine!” but find themselves facing a public awash in apprehension over potentially oil-tainted seafood.
When New Orleans, Louisiana, chef John Besh recently urged people to choose U.S. shrimp over imports during an interview about the state of seafood in the wake of the Gulf of Mexico spill, commenters responded negatively, writing, “What’s a little tar or mercury in your system anyways?!” and “I hope you enjoy the petrol in your fish.”
^^^ That commenter sounds like somebody hereabouts.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/LIVING/wayoflife/05/25/fish.fight.safety.misinformation/
josef:
This one’s for you.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/24/gulf.coast.cultural.impact/?hpt=C2
Heartwarming and heartbreaking, all at the same time. A determined people, they…
Saul Good
May 25th, 2010
7:59 pm
Scout….I like ya friend…but it seems your credibility is slipping away…”sources” my friend… they help when you try to make points from time to time. Stop reading the right wing propaganda… it’s harmful to your mind. Read ALL sides to ALL issues by true “journalists” instead of hate mongers and entertainers. The sources are out there and they’re really not that hard to find…
AmVet
May 25th, 2010
8:02 pm
“Would Obama have EVER considered serving in the military of the United States?”
I seriously doubt it.
Unless he could have gotten an ….ahem, “part time” assignment in the Illinois Air National Guard…
Jay
May 25th, 2010
8:03 pm
Anybody with any comprehension of the U.S. military would know that a West Point graduate, after four years of intense work and sacrifice, would NEVER throw it all away by such a public act of disrespect for their commander in chief.
It is ludicrous to make — or believe — such a claim.
Saul Good
May 25th, 2010
8:04 pm
Chu….Obama HAS been there and he’s STILL going to respecting those who gave their lives for our nation. If he went to Dahlonega and respected those who are buried there and who gave their lives for this nation… are they less worthy? Are you saying those buried there in their home towns don’t deserve the SAME respect as the ones who lie there at Arlington? Tell that to the family members who will be in attendance where he speaks that day. Ask them if they think he’s “dissing” our fallen heros.
josef nix
May 25th, 2010
8:04 pm
For what it’s worth, the President’s non attendance is not so much bad politics as it is bad manners and bad pr…
Mysteries of the Universe, Solved
May 25th, 2010
8:06 pm
Eat hearty, @@. Just remember that chikin don’t eat mercury-filled critters lower down on the food chain. They just eat corn. Monsanto corn. Modified monsanto corn that is resistant to Roundup. The Roundup that makes girls out of men. Now that’s really gay, isn’t it.
Chupacabra
May 25th, 2010
8:08 pm
I refuse to accept the argument that the POTUS would not attend the national ceremony to honor our fallen heroes of America at her nation’s most sacred ground.
Every POTUS should be there EVERY year…. No vacations, no excuses.
Mysteries of the Universe, Solved
May 25th, 2010
8:08 pm
It is ludicrous to make — or believe — such a claim.
Then again, Scout is but a Cub. Give him time.
theyeshaveit
May 25th, 2010
8:09 pm
@@ said I hate the buzz words people use around here. “Sycophant” is one of ‘em.
Would you prefer the expression “brown noser”? Sycophant is likely to get you into less trouble, I would say.
Hillbilly Deluxe
May 25th, 2010
8:09 pm
Chickens’ll eat a whole lot more than corn.